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eFusjon Scam - The Pitch
Are you like me - you heard about this eFusjon Energy Club from a friend, all hyped up about how it's the most incredible opportunity they've ever seen ... and you gotta check it out ... and join and it ... it only takes 3 people ... and it's not an MLM or Network Marketing ... well it is, but really it isn't ... and trust me you gotta see this video ... and blah, blah, blah ... jeez, take a breath Robo-Mouth!
I was lucky enough to get my friend off the phone without having to sign a check or give any blood. How'd I do it? You know ... acted real cool, like I was interested ... next step was they're gonna send me an email with a link to some website and video I gotta check out. "Alright" I agreed and that was that.
So, there's my intro to eFusjon ... sound familiar?
eFusjon Energy Club - My Research Begins
So, I get the email and what do I do? What did you do? ... Well, I didn't go to the website and watch the video right away. I know how these MLM things and scammy business opportunities online are ... once you're in their "Church" you get infected with the "spirit" and everything is just so easy and perfect ... even complete idiots can make more money while sleeping than Warren Buffett can on steriods ... yeah, right.
The copywriters these businesses hire are slick baby ... they go to some secret 19 year college where they learn how to use hypnotic ninja techniques to put readers into deep delta states where your brain can't help but accept literally anything they say as an absolute truth.
Been fooled by a lot of these sales pages in my day ... how about you? Ever bought an info product ... I rest my case.
Anyway, I'm smarter than that now ... instead of going directly to the eFusjon website, I start doing some creative Google searches on this eFusjon scheme in order to dig up as much info as possible on these guys ... so when my buddy calls back I can blast him when I say ... "thanks, but no thanks" ... and he starts to drill me with his over-blown trance-induced hype.
I'm gonna be armed and ready ... Tee-hee, this is gonna be fun!
eFusjon - My Search For Truths - Are There Any
Did you do the same thing and search for info about eFusjon?
Well, obviously you're doing research on eFusjon now, because you found me ... good for you! Smart people like you and me think before we leap. If you're like me, you're not a crowd follower ... I mean who's stupid enough to follow a crowd right over a cliff?
Yeah, people make mistakes ... I've made plenty of them and will surely make more ... but, at least I'm smart enough to learn from them.
So, what did I find out there in cyperspace about eFusjon ... exactly what you're finding ... a bunch of repeating CRAP from people all trying to get you to join in with them.
WHAT ... there's no information available that peels back the layers and provides real honest answers and facts about what's going on with this eFusjon thing ... it can't truly be what it's hyped up to be?
Don't think so ... come on people ... do they take us for fools?
I'm so frustrated and angered by this ... I'm screaming ...
"WHAT'S THE DEAL ON EFUSJON - DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE OPINION OR SOMETHING EVEN SLIGHTLY NEGATIVE TO SAY - EFUSJON SCAM ALERT - SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS !"
Oh ... and then there's the serious Internet Marketing guys ... you've seen them, they're EVERYWHERE ... and no surprise, these guys know some tricks on how to get their pages and videos ranked real high.
Sure, they talk a big game and appear to have their acts together, but be very, very careful ... most of these people are Summa Cum Laude graduates of the 19 year Hypnotic Copywriter's College ... and some of them aren't even 19 yrs. old - How does that happen?
Promises, promises ... Can they deliver?
Let me tell you the cycle: They pump out an enormous amount of their slick marketing messages on websites and video and build themselves up as bonafied EXPERTS in everything you don't know, but need to know to make a killing with eFusjon.
They sell the dream of success and how working with an expert will show you how it's done ... it's easy if you pay them a half year's salary to learn their techniques ... and then you still fail.
They may even trick you to believe they don't have an interest in eFusjon ... they're not even signed up in it ... their pitch is to train you on how to do it properly ... "Wow Mr. and Mrs. Guru, I didn't have any idea there's so much involved, you have soooo many neat videos and you're soooo knowledgeable."
That's the problem right there my friend >>> You Don't Have Any Idea <<<
And neither do any of the other unsuspecting people these guys lure into their "fastest growing leg in the company" ... yeah ... ever heard the expression "turn and burn" ... figure it out.
Disclaimer: Now I don't know these 3 guys above ... I'm sure they're very nice people ... I only feature them as pictoral examples because they've put themselves out there publicly and positioned themselves as some kind of experts ... I don't endorse or discredit them ... if anything they should appreciate the plug ... you make your own decision ... 'nuff said on that.
Then there's all of the "eFusjon Scam" - "WARNING: eFusjon Scam" - "Is eFusjon A Scam?" videos, websites and articles online that don't tell you CRAP ... they're just more sneaky ploys to get your click and sign you up into eFusjon on their weak lazy team of Multi-Level-Mouchers.
I eventually had it with trying to find any reliable, alternative views on eFusjon and finally headed over to the official eFusjon Energy Club website to have a look around.
Maybe I could find a hidden link or secret page that exposes the truth ... Don't worry, I had my aluminum foil hat and anti-hypno glasses on.
My Visit To The eFusjon Website
Well, well ... why was I not surprised! The eFusjon website is super-duper slicked up, all the fancy bells and whistles and expensive coding ... and the videos. Oh, the videos ... what'd they get Martin Scorcese and Ron Howard to team up on those with a little love from the "Eco-God" Al Gore himself?
Jeez ... I had to pause the full length presentation and make some microwave popcorn! Even tricked my 6 year old daughter into watching it with me again the next day so I didn't have to pay for the Hannah Montana movie ... that eFusjon video my friends is a quality production!
Hate to admit it, but I couldn't really argue with the core message regarding the rapid proliferation of and addiction everybody has to unhealthy caffeine and sodium filled energy drinks like Monster, Red Bull and RockStar. I like them too, but they don't mix well with my high blood pressure medication.
Okay, so they have a fancy schmancy website and a message regarding health and wellness that actuallly makes sense to me ... uh oh, maybe the aluminum foil hat is too small?
Whoop-dee-do ... am I ever impressed ... like I've never seen a Flash based website before.
So, what's up with this "revolutionary ... never before seen" Network Marketing mumbo jumbo eFusjon compensation plan that's gonna make everyone and their mother, brother, sister and college dorm buddies a gazillion dollars overnight by agreeing to actually buy a case of this crap every month for the rest of their natural lives?
Ah ha ... you see, the hat is not too small and the hypnosis isn't working on me ... I'm not falling for the hype and demand more info ... I want proof this wacky income scheme is legit and can at least cover the cost these losers have to put out to buy this stuff every month.
Hang on, I think there's an Amway rep at my door ...
No, just the cable guy ... talk about a racquet. Hell, that industry is a piece of work. Let's not get started. As a courtesy, I'm gonna stay on point here with the eFusjon Scam.
Okay, so I'm working to wrap my head around the "let's make this super simple for you everybody gets a piece of the action regardless of what planet you live on or who's stepmother sends in the money" kind of pyramid scheme ... and I'm starting to get really, really thirsty?
Wait a minute, these schiesters are good ... I'm actually getting a little scared. I quickly exit the site and realize I gotta find some concrete facts to spank my friend with.
I wrestle myself from the eFusion hype and start to do research on Network Marketing as an Industry ... and I began to uncover a lot of scary facts.
Facts About MLM and Network Marketing
Here's what I found out:
2 Of The 3 People You Need To Start Your eFusjon Biz ... Will FAIL & QUIT
... now that I can use.
Below are the MLM Industry Statistical FACTS ... nothing to argue, every MLM company knows them well.
Over 95% of associates will do the following:
- Spend between $100 and $400 to get "signed up".
- Sponsor an average of 2.5 distributors that do the same.
- Quit within 90 to 120 days.
- Are 16.27% likely to remain using the product.
MLM companies build an ENORMOUSLY profitable business on those facts!
To appreciate this let's review what everyone is instructed to do after signing up in a Network Marketing business:
- Make a list of your "warm market" - family, friends, co-workers, etc.
- Find 3 people who find 3 people who find 3 people ...it's that simple! Right?
- Talk to everyone that comes within 3 feet of you.
- Purchase the product, literature and samples.
- Get a company replicated website.
- Do home parties.
- Bring guests to meetings.
- Do 3 way prospecting calls with your upline.
- Set big goals and stick to them.
The truth is ... these strategies DO work really, really well ... for the MLM Companies and their top “Big Gun” associates. But ... they won't work for YOU!
And statistics reveal they never work for the 98.4% of network marketers that eventually FAIL and leave the business ... again, fact.
What these methods do is create a constant revolving door of associates, thousands upon thousands at a time, all with big dreams and the willingness to fork over the $200 or so dollars to get “signed up" ... it's a business, and that business is to get lots and lots of product and other sales tools into the hands of as many new associates as possible.
Another One Bites The Dust
Armed and Ready
Sweet ... so now I've got the ammunition I need to pound my friend to dust on MLM, Network Marketing and this eFusjon gimmic. But then something unexpected happens ... he never calls back?
Hey, even sweeter ... now I don't have to feel guilty for stealing his dream ... and maybe we'll even stay friends ... cool!
Wishful thinking ... no, he didn't call ... but I get another email. Not from him though ... this time from some dude who signed my buddy up in this whole thing ... GREAT. My buddy and I haven't even started a small battle yet and he's pulling out the Big Guns to win the friggin war!
Well, I guess in his defense ... he didn't even know my game plan. Afterall, he still thought I was interested. In fact, it turns out he did the right thing because there's no way he knew enough to effectively pitch me on this thing anyway. At least he knew that much ... I'll give him credit for that.
The Email
The email was ... well ... interesting ... way, way, way more low key
than my buddy's initial intro to me on this deal. This guy basically
stated the truth ... how's that for a concept ... TRUTH. Hmmmm.
Now, I wanted to include that email here for you to read, but decided for several reasons it wouldn't be a good idea ... mainly because I now have genuine respect for this individual and I don't want to lose his trust ... more on that in a minute.
His email essentially stated that he'd been informed by my friend that I may be interested in joining eFusjon ... WRONG.
He wanted to let me know that he's not a fan of Network Marketing or MLM ... in fact, he stated that he'd had very bad experiences with more than a couple opportunities in the past ... not surprised, he should've done his homework ... wink, wink.
He also stated that he was very skeptical about eFusjon initially and had no intention of joining ... sounds like someone I know.
He went on to say that even though I've expressed a real interest in the program, he wanted me to be aware that there's a lot of hype surrounding it and much of it is nonsense ... no kidding ... tell me something I don't know.
He stated that my buddy has proven to him so far that he's clueless and has mis-informed several people ... no?
He continued sharing information that validated everything negative I'd discovered and shared with you here about eFusjon and Network Marketing ... let me pat myself on the back.
He then said he has no interest in perpetuating the BS and hype, but there are a couple of really important aspects to this he wants to make sure I'm aware of and these were the only reasons he personally got involved ... okay, it was nice to this point, but my defenses just went up and now you're gonna lose me.
He apologized for the direction his message may seem to be turning and stated he really didn't want to come off sales-like in any manner ... apology accepted ... for now, continue.
He assured me this is not a pitch or a hard-sell, not even close, but a genuine sharing of good solid information about eFusjon ... I'm listening.
He continued with a thorough explanation of how eFusjon's Compensation Plan for their associates is totally unique along with another thorough explanation of the rising popularity of Web 2.0 and Social Networking and how the new eFusjon Facebook application widget is positioned to be the real game changer in this like nothing else in the history of Network Marketing - a kinda morph of Social-Network Marketing ... this I had heard over and over again, tell me something I don't know.
Then he said I've probably heard all that in one way or another already and this is what all the hype is fueled by he knows ... yeah, I know too, so?
He stated that there's never any guarantees in anything in life and he's not guaranteeing anything to me ... thanks, I appreciate the honesty.
He began to conclude with highlighting the fact that the real exciting thing is I'd be positioned for the "What If" ... hmmmm.
Then, in a very honest and sincere manner, he invited me to join the eFusjon ooportunity as part of this special team and if I accepted he'd do everything possible to help me, exactly like he just helped my buddy in personally reaching out to me ... I like his style.
He concluded by thanking me for my time and assured me that I'd never hear from him again about this unless I initiated the contact ... cool with that.
He signed off with his contact info and wished me continued success ... I read it again like 15 times.
The Call
So what did I do?
You guessed it ... I called the guy and we talked for a while. I had to hear it in his voice the way I heard it in his email. Was this guy for real ... is he connected the way he says he is ... and can he really back it up?
Heck, I don't want to be another statistic you know ... 2 out of 3.
Well, I'm happy to report he's the genuine article ... the guy is honest to a fault. Absolutely no hard-sell or hype whatsoever ... in fact, he tried several times to talk me out of it with cold hard facts again about Network Marketing, the nature of people and how others may respond to me ... just like I was ready to respond to and lose my buddy over this.
Fact is the investment is rather minimal and the potential upside with this team is ASTRONOMICAL ... I'm actually really excited about all this. He already helped me sign up a bunch of people, most I don't even know and the organization is smoking hot ... SIZZLING HOT!
I'm more than breaking even already and the eFusjon Energy Drink is really good ... I enjoy it and am benefiting from it. After all ... I've got a six year old I have to keep up with.
So that's my story and eFusjon journey so far ... is eFusjon a scam? Definitely not for me!
I told this guy, now mentor of mine in the business, I was putting this HubPage together and asked if I could set it up with his contact info ... because, in my opinion, no one can present this better than him and I want everyone looking into eFusjon that reads this to be able to contact him and have direct access to this special guy and this very special team of people.
He agreed and below is his direct contact info ... I urge you to use it. No BS, no hype, no pressure ... no nonsense.
Oh ... and tell him Ricky referred you ... thanks.
Good luck to you and continued success!
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Comments
Hey Nick,
Good question. However I don't give out exact figures for a number of reasons, mainly that I don't want to imply to people "you're going to make what I made!" I can tell you a couple of things though.
1. I am firmly in the plus column! I am far from coming out of pocket on anything and it is only growing and rapidly!
2. An enormous amount of my growing organization is from overlap - meaning from people I had nothing to do with getting into the business. I have never seen anything like this!
3. The more people I have in my organization, whether I put them their or not, the more impact it's going to have on my business when the Facebook app launches.
This deal is the "real thing"! Don't miss out on this opportunity.
Ricky
i will tell you i have been in efusjon since before day one--its a big bunch of hype --lies--- have not made 1 red cent.
I can tell you that I have been in since before day one - actually invested in the initial launch of the company and have a position very near the top level and have been in the black ever since. Just like Rick said, only a few are actually going to do anything. Also involved in another company - excellent product and making money - but many say they cannot and the product is too expensive. I don't consider myself to be anything special, but I do work hard and want more out of life then making someone or some company lots of money with my hard work. Great article, Rick, and hope to meet you some day at some eFusjon gathering.
I was interested in Efusjon, so I am just looking into it, but reading your page kind of made me laugh because I did not find any facts on Efusjon being a scam. All I have found was your opinions and thats not good enough because you don't need to be a genius to start a webpage with a bunch of opinions. Please state facts about Efusjon and not MLM's in general or how your friend was getting you in there, you promised facts about Efusjon...so give us facts or at least try it out and write a blog about it. You can't know for sure unless you try it out. Sorry for being rude, but just trying to find the truth about Efusjon and not MLM's in general.
Hi Sergey. Appreciate your comment. And even though there is a bit of creative writing on this page, there are facts too. First efusjon is not a scam. I am making money as are the people who brought me in and the people who brought them in. Second there IS a revolutionary compensation plan. The key to this plan, besides only needing to sponsor 3 people to be eligible for all the money, is the community overlap component. This means that reps matrixes (downlines) share some common people. The result of which is that people fall into your organization that you had nothing to do with - AND you get paid on their volume. If you wish to get more details on this or anything else call Steven (number above) and he will walk you through it.
In summation... the company is solid, the principles are solid (Derek Broes - google him), the product is great, the compensation plan is brilliant and this thing is just getting going. Although healthy, do not let your skepticism cause you to lose out on this incredible opportunity.
P.S. Don (up above) thank you for your comment and support!!!
Hello Skeptical Prospects,
A few hours ago I just met a friend of a friend that has been in network marketing for about 20 years. He's made a lot of money a long time ago in pre-paid legal, but has been in 8 other companies since then and failed in those. He, my friend and I did a 3-way call today so we could meet eachother - I am also an experienced network marketer and have also only made any significant money in one other company (other than current). After listening to his "pitch" over this call I did a little research and replied by email with a detailed critique on this bran new opportunity that many of you will find informative or even educational in some way. There are some facts but most of it is opinions from my extensive knowledge and experience in this industry.
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George,Thanks for informing me of this new Efusjon opportunity. I told you I would look into it, and then tell you what my thoughts are. Now since we're both very experienced in this industry, I'm going to tell you my exact thoughts... I think this new compensation plan is an excellent marketing strategy. It will be successful in increasing the 98% - 2-% or 97% - 3% failure ratio that is common in this industry. But I also think it won't increase it substantially. This is because of the spillover that will occur with many, but not all associates. Since the autoship is over $100, that alone will make it very difficult for MOST people to get even 3 sponsors.I think this strategy is designed to attract network marketers, not the average person. This means it's probably still going to require most associates to talk to 100 people before you get one person in. I think this opportunity won't last that long, and a statement in the video by Bob confirms that. He said "I think this is truly a once in a lifetime opportunity" - I think this is because of the momentum that will hit with the game on Facebook. After that, who knows how the momentum will keep up. Bottom line, this is really not much different than other companies and the same issues will still arise for most people involved. Again, I think the new compensation plan is an excellent idea that will most definitely work at least for a while, but it is like trying to reinvent the wheel. This is just part of the strategy - they are doing this to get more appeal than other companies, particularly appeal from network marketers, but again won't last long either for appeal or for effectiveness, in my opinion. Even though energy drinks are a relatively new fad, there is significant other competition out there, such as Monavie which is coming out with a new energy drink product in June, and other network marketing companies that have already been marketing "healthy" energy drinks. It is a very new company, and the statistics show that a very high number of new companies either go out of business in 2 years or lose their appeal.Efusjon is trying to deliver wellness in an energy drink (acai berry is the hottest trend right now for antioxidants). This is because the wellness industry is a growing industry and more and more Americans every day are being more concerned for their health. But it's just an energy drink and not designed to have any significant benefits to your health. The key to anyone's success in network marketing is one of two things - successful duplication or successful mass recruiting. Duplication will be higher with Efusjon because of their marketing plan, but it will still be very low for the average person. In my opinion, if you can't recruit people that already know the industry, you will likely fail. The main focus seems to be on the money-making aspect, and not the product. In my experience, from what I've seen, this is the problem with this: A) It will mostly draw people that are only in it for the money, and therefore the primary focus will be on recruiting, again not on the product. The average person is more likely to view this as a pyramid or money making scheme (you know how people are with those words that know nothing about the industry). B) Belief in the company and overall objective will be limited to making lots of money, not on helping others or impacting the world in any way. This will affect duplication and will result in dropouts or quitters, regardless of whether or not they already have 10-20 people under them waiting to be paid on. The factor of how long it will take to get significant spillover is a big factor and is no guarantee. The expensive autoship, in my opinion, is likely to outweight profits for a relatively long period of time, especially if it takes a person a while to get their three people, which, by the way, is much more difficult to do than anyone would realize, especially when the marketing focus is on the compensation plan and money-making. The way I see it, if you have a product, or company, or both, that sells itself to the average person, it won't even matter what kind of compensation plan you have because you will make money nomatter what.In the end, the compensation plan doesn't pay out any more than most other companies, it's still 50% total payout and 50% the company keeps. Where you gain money, you lose it in other areas, it still totals 50% in the end. The compensation plan is only a "better" compensation plan in terms of marketing, so in a way, it's just hype to get a better response in these marketing efforts. Overall, I have no doubt this company will be relatively successful, but is no more unique than most any other company, especially the new ones, which leads me to think the overall outcome for most people joining will be monetary loss from lots of energy drink purchases. George, I heard AND felt on the phone how excited you were, and I almost didn't believe you when you said you ran home (reminded me of Charlie and his golden ticket), but I did believe you that you were just that excited. You said you were in 9 other companies, and even though you have done very well in one of those companies, don't put all your faith and hope into this one, because there is always a chance that it might not work out the way you think it will. By all means, try it, because you can make a lot of money with it if you are in fact THAT passionate about it. If you are passionate about it, nothing will stop you from your success. I'd like to say one last thing, but I don't want you to take this the wrong way or anything - I am only going to tell you this opinion because if I were you I'd want to hear it, especially from someone I know very little about - I want to help you because that's what I like to do for people. First of all, I have gone through extensive training in this industry, because I am a person that doesn't really comminicate well like people like Sam do, I am actually quite the opposite and my "presentation" skills are simply not that great. Long story short, I have spent about $5000 total on some of the best training available for this industry, and I have learned a lot about what prospecting methods work and what doesn't. I'm talking about getting through to prospects, not about sales pitching. And that's just it, from all I've learned, I believe that if you have to make a sales pitch or do any type of convincing to someone in this industry, you are going to get very poor results. And with this type of company, you have no choice but to make a sales pitch, as you basically did on our 3-way earlier with Sam. What I want to say is that I think is that it will be more difficult than you think to get people to sign in under you, and to mentor them to do the same thing is an even greater challenge. Selling is what nobody likes to do, and nobody likes to be sold to. I struggle with the same problem, and I know now that if you have something that proves and sells itself, all will be ok and the money will come naturally. Now, where I am trying to go with this is that your approach needs to be geared toward the person's needs that you are talking to - this is one of the most valuable and effective things I have learned to date. Some people want to hear how much fun they will have, some people want to hear how much
Sorry everyone, that post was supposed to be paragraphed.
Also, I forgot to add one important opinion: I think this company sounds like one of the many companies that don't last long. It could very well be one of those companies that wither and die within just a few short years. When the company that pays you dies, your checks do as well - if you are one of the few people out there that is going to do what it takes to succeed, make sure you do it with a company that's going to be around for a very long time.
Ricky, I have a question, did you end up signing up with Efusjon or not? I am a little confused on that detail.
Thanks Nolan for bringing to light what I have felt and thought the whole time, I need to be honest the hardcore recruitment process of this energy drink has made me hide.. I will say it is going to affect some friendships in my life, It has turned a close friend into a robot I dont even know anymore. Cant go to dinner or a function of any type without hearing how he will get rich and I agree Facts on the actual drink itself not all that impressiveand the total HYPE is just that HYPE surrounded by dollar bills you can make. Well I have a very very well known friend he has been involved 60 days and made $2500 so far not bad but did I mention he is also very well off with ALOT of very well off friends who can toss the 120-160 monthly away no problem and his amount of contacts & connections is un-real I believe he has signed up approx 20 people in 2 months SORRY folks thats not typical and this guy is after me like a cheetah on a gazel I have to say I cant stand it. And to be honest I really agree with Nolan I think POP then shortly after FIZZ not for me
My "real" job requires my contact list of people to answer my call when I call and not be concerned that I'm going to pitch them on something such as a pyramid type scheme. I know, its not a pyramid or yeah its a pyramid just like any other structured business. My wife stays at home with our kids. Now she has a couple of degrees, but she would just rather stay at home. In the past I have invested in Southern Living - a sale from your home type product. Great stuff by the way. I have also done the "Fortune", where you sale services that you already use "home phone, cell phone, satelite t.v. service, etc... She was really on top of things at first and once she had several dozen "meet and greet" or sales parties........it was over. A close friend of mine's brother, brought the "efusjon" to the central MS area. He spent something like $25,000 to be some type of special member/investor/leader... whatever you want to call it and he may have made 1/2 of his money back. Well, this friend of mine joined under his brother and didn't get the product until two weeks after he made his 2nd monthly payment, however they did send hime 2 months worth, when he got it. I tasted it and it was okay, but to drink this stuff for the rest of my life or even monthly for a year, you've got to be crazy. So count me out, I want my friends to stay my friends and business associates to not run away when they see me at a restaurant... thinking that I'm an efusjon sales rep. That's my 2 cents or really 1 cent worth. Good luck to you all and if you're on board, I hope you all make $249,999 a year. Don't make that extra dollar, because then you'll have to give 50% of it back to the government.
Nice creative use of "It's really a scam, no it's not a scam, now I'm going to scam you." Anyone who falls for this nonsense is an idiot and deserves what they will get.
actual letter i sent and their reply
Hello, I signed up for your company's product which tastes great, my main concern is the sugar that is used in your product .Although crystalline fructose is much cheaper to use in your drinks i think it defeats your purpose of having a "healthy alternative energy drink" since it is well know by any health conscious person that sweeteners made with fructose are not only not healthy but some believe actually more harmful to the body than ordinary sugar ,I bought and signed up for your product thinking I would be able to use it, as well as sell it to my health conscious friends whose first question when i show them the drink is " what sweetener " just as mine was .Unfortunately i did not research what crystalline fructose was before i signed up or i would never have done so, no matter how delicious or healthy your product is i am confused at your choice of sweeteners ,I enjoy coke acola once in while as well but only buy the ones made with cane sugar since it is considerably less harmful to the body than high fructose corn syrup,an even better alternative which I'm sure you are aware coke is pursuing is stevia extract a more expensive yet healthier alternative.That said unless your company has plans for changing your recipe in the immediate future I would like to be removed from the auto-ship of my product effective immediately.
the reply : Thank you for your concern about crystalline fructose, however there have been many studies to the contrary which is why we have chosen to use this product. Here are some examples of those studies. Please see the article below and the attached pdf file. Per your request your autoship has been cancelled or placed on hold. Please be aware that you will be dropped to member status and therefore will not be able to sign anyone up or receive any commissions for that month. If you go a second month without autoship you will be dropped from the matrix.
:Note the studies they refer to are funded by the corn syrup industry:
What is crystalline fructose?
Crystalline fructose is produced by allowing the fructose to crystallize from a fructose-enriched corn syrup. The term “crystalline fructose” is listed in the ingredient statements of foods and beverages using this corn sweetener. It is important to understand that the “crystalline fructose” listed as an ingredient comes from cornstarch, not fruit.
Crystalline fructose can be used in the same foods as the high fructose corn syrups, or in any food that contains sugar.
sounds suspiciously like corn syrup to me......
OMG, pathetic & desperate.... good luck with your friends and family.
Hi Everyone,
This is Steven. Ricky asked me to answer this time.
I appreciate everyone's contribution to this site with their thoughts. And of course everyone's experience is a valid one. I know there are probably many who feel similarly.
My experience however has been vastly different. Before I started with Efusjon I had a seven year break from MLM. I had just completed 4 years with Excel communications. I left because although I was capable of doing well, I knew that most people could not. And I was unable with good conscience to tell people that it was a "2 to 5 year" plan.
I was mentored by the #4 earner in the company and had several very skilled and talented MLM friends and upline. They respected my decision, because they knew I made my choice out of my sense of integrity. They are still dear friends today.
My friend who had brought me into Excel called me one day to tell me about Efusjon. He was skeptical about it, but thought that it might be the "real deal". He was and still is a successful in another company. So her told me "buy a position and let's see".
I was lucky and "let's see" turned into quite a bit of overlap and since then I have gone to work. I have been building a wonderful organization and have fantastic and committed reps and upline who know how to run a network marketing organization.
Not everyone will get immediate overlap, but it does come eventually. I have seen it happen. I have personal contact with major people in the company and found everyone to be honest, intelligent and on track. They are making smart business decisions. I have no doubt my organization will continue to grow. I do not build on hype. I tell the truth even if it makes me uncomfortable. That is how you enroll people who stay. If you lie, they will eventually find out and leave. That's just bad business and I want to build this just once.
The product is sound. Efusjon is not trying to "save the world", but to offer a healthier alternative to other energy drinks. I used to drink Coke. I do not anymore. That means instead of 250 calories I have 60. Instead of 200 mg of sodium I have 0. That means instead of 27 grams of HFCS I have 15 grams of crystalline fructose, which I do not claim to be an expert on, but will find out more and post here. Red Bull is worse than Coke and if people drink Efusjon instead, it is a step forward.
I have found that focus, hard work and perseverance are good remedies for a lot of ills. When I do these things I inevitably become very lucky.
Again I do thank everyone for participating in the discussion. If you have any questions don't hesitate to call.
Steven
Efusjon Zen Master
You're a douche bag dude. Seriously, way to TRY
You're entitled to your opinion. If I was trying to convince anyone of anything it would be a problem that you think that. The people I'm speaking to are those that are interested in hearing someone's honest take on this company. That's all this page is about. If not even one person ever called me from this page, it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to my success with Efusjon. If someone does respond and is interested that is just gravy. If you'd like to talk give me a call and I'd be happy to hear what you're so angry about.
Why do you keep erasing my posts about how you plagerised this article yet, you keep some post where some guy calls you a douch bag?
Please post again. If you were erased that was not intended. We welcome all thoughts and opinions!
You erased it twice. I see how easy it is for the lies to roll of your tongue. Must be why you efusjon works for you.
Thanks for your comment. Really.
i'm in efusjon, just joined 3 weeks ago and hope it lives up to the hype. i've started to scope out what others are doing to promote it online and noticed that efusjon scams is a popular search term. hey, efusjonzen, you seem to be working it well and have good exposure around the internet. good for you. wish i could say the same about my group. in my opinion, that kook above has some sort of agenda to discredit you or something. think about it, why would he keep returning here and why all the hate? very suspicious. i think this steve guy or whatever his real name is, is a scam. maybe you can write a hub about that lol. i mean, i hit this page once and see no need to come back. wouldn't blame you if you did erase something, i could only imagine what he said. just my opinion. anyway, i'm impressed with your marketing skills and am a little dissapointed that i found you after i already signed up. good luck to you and good story, i read it all the way through and even left a comment, which i don't normally do.
Dave... thanks for your comment. And thanks for your support!
The truth is that I am in a circle of people who are all doing well in the business. It's really a matter of staying in, finding the right few people and then supporting them. I never waste my time convincing someone to get involved. Actually the opposite. I make sure they really understand the deal. And then I give great support.
I also don't spend time trying to convince people who have come into the business to work. I let them honestly know the potential and help them all I can, but it takes much less energy to find someone who understands than to motivate someone who just doesn't want to work.
I wish you the best of luck in your business!
Microsoft+ Paramount Pictures + Bill Gates+ Rob Towles+ The Movie Called "Pay It Forward= Derek Broes and Efusjon.
For who ever wrote this article about Efusjon is an IDIOT!!!
We are getting paid. Thank you Derek and Rob!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha ha. This is hilarious. What I've learned from someone who went to an Efusjon Seminar is that you pay $200 to "buy in", meaning you pay $200 to give you the right to pay another $160 a month to get one case of Efusjon. SO if you are OK with spending 360 dollars for your first months case of Efusjon and 200 dollars thereafter THIS IS THE DEAL FOR YOU!!! If you are not a blood sucking evil f&%% you will be honest and not scam people into this crap. YEAH YEAH I know that what you're REALLY paying for is the ability to sign OTHER people up for getting other people to sign up for to get other people to sign up for ... and to infinity... But WHAT are they signing up for...Oh yeah...the right to find other people willing to pay them 200 +160 dollars for a case of Efusjon. Better be an orgasm in a bottle.
Ooops I was wrong about the numbers. It's $150 first month and then $120 every month after that. I got that from the web page. Sadly, my "friend" was told higher numbers at the seminar, so I'm guessing someone saw Big Sucker tatooed on his forehead and figured why not just start making up numbers?
Hi Anne. Thanks for your comments. I'm sorry if your friend felt "taken". I don't know the circumstances, but there are unscrupulous people everywhere. Sometimes misunderstandings can be felt to dishonesty, but they are actually just that - misunderstandings.
The actual dollar amounts are $30 1 time membership fee, then 120 for your order, which is 4 boxes of 12 each. Then you add to that shipping (California where I live it's $36 - too much, but they are negotiating with UPS to get that lowered) and $11 tax.
So the first payment is $197. Since the membership fee is only a one time fee, it is $167 per month after that.
There are three of us in my family. We easily go through more than one case just personally each month. We love it. Many people when they are thinking of getting involved want to try the product first. Uniformly people really like!
I used to drink Coke. I don't anymore. Efusjon is sooooo much better for you than Coke (not to mention Red Bull). 60 calories vs. 250, 0% Sodium on and on. Instead of the company wasting money on advertising, I get to get paid for drinking something that is better for me than what I was having before.
Many people do poorly in MLM. Many more do extremely well. Many who do poorly find out that there is actual work involved to be successful like in anything else. Many don't like that fact. That's true in a lot more than MLM.
But the person who is willing to do the work, persevere and who decides that they WILL be successful. It is a wonderful opportunity!
Is there any truth to Efusjon selling to Coke Efusjon Sells Out To Coke!!
i could never in a million years get my friends or family to sign up for something like this. They'd see through this in a split second, and I'd be embarassed to even present it.
Yet, most of my friends are professionals, multi-degreed.
This will fall apart at somepoint.
Not everyone is going to join this club...it would be careless to think so. No everyone will understand the concept. Not everyone will take the risk. These are all people who live in a state of "hind site is 20/20", and that's okay. There are many posts saying that "I haven't made a cent", I expect that these are people who joined under the premise that the community overlap is going to make them millionaires....a message to those people....If this is your thought process then here is a newsflash, the person that occupies the matrix to your left and right are just as lazy as you are! There is no such thing as FREE lunch in anything that you do! If you can't...or won't get your three...get out! If you don't believe in this club...get out! The person who enrolled you is making $5.10 cents off of your occupying their position. It's not like they talked you into refinancing your house or maxing out your credit cards. Go find another business that you can open for $195 and have a monthly overhead of $165 that offers huge income potential.
Seriously...non-workers...Get out! Whiners...Get Out! Non-Believers...Get out! We don't want you in our club anyway!
Remember from my earlier post, everyone, that in any network marketing company that uses a traditional method of building a business, such as going and recruiting friends, family, co-workers, and other warm-market, the fact is that more than 95% of everyone invovlved will spend more money than they ever make. If you are going to be in that 5%, good for you, but that is only because you have lots of people in your downline, 95% of which are losing money.
There are better methods out there and better opportunities that pay just as much (50%) and have low start-up and monthly commitments and way better, more unique products.
Nolan
I joined Efusjon on May 15th and haven't signed anyone up yet. I don't consider myself an MLM'er by any stretch of the imagination, but suprisingly I already have 9 people under me from the community overflow. I haven't gotten paid yet because I don't have my 3 people but I'm going to run with this for a few months because I think it has some legs.
I was having a hard time convincing my wife that $160 a month was worth the risk so I found 2 buddies that wanted to join (that were in my same boat with their wives) and we each decided to pitch in $55 a month and just work one account. This may be a good option for people who want to try it out but don't have the $160 extra each month.
Anyway, it was an entertaining article.
hey, i'm my own boss - that's a good idea. been wanting to justify the investment. splitting it up with a couple of others that are on the fence like me makes sense. thanks for mentioning that, glad i read down here.
Seems like if you spent the energy into why eFusjon won't work & build a matrix of your own...you'd have one heck of a matrix! A lot of wasted energy. My family joined mid-march...brother made 12K last month, dad made 3K & I made over 1500...in 60 days. Great product. I am a breast cancer survivor & post chemo, this has given me great energy with no falls. This is giving others hope for a better future & for that I am grateful.
Look people, the long and the short of this is sign up or don't sign up. It's that simple. Rick, I think you wrote a very nice article. I know several people in the Club who have built thier talking points around those that you state. I can assure those out there with an interest in Efusjon that it IS a risk worth taking. I'm by no means well off, I work as an actor at a theme park in Anaheim, CA for about $15hr. I can't really afford my monthly autoship, but I keep paying for it (2 months now) because I know Derek (Broes,) and Derek wouldn't be leaving his lucritive job with Paramount Pictures to devote himself full-time to Efusjon if he didn't believe in the company. Look, the man's worked for Microsoft, Paramount, he's spoken before Congress regarding First Ammendment Rights and he's got an amazingly strong family background. (Trust me if this was all a scam his mom would barge right into his office at Paramount and drag him out by the ear to apologize to everyone.)
Here's my cold hard facts: I've been a member of the club for 8 weeks. I got my 3 people (with some help from my upline) within 4 weeks. I currently have less than 10 people in my personal matrix. I can't tell you how much money I've made, because I haven't made any yet. (One of my 3 didn't pay for thier autoship last month so I didn't get a check)
I'm staying in this. Not because I'm a hypnotized drone, but becasue I want the "What If?" This isn't for everybody. And it certainly isn't for those who think that just by buying a spot will make them rich. It takes work, not a lot, but there IS work involved. You've got to get your 3, and you've got to help those 3 get thier 3 then you can have a successfull business.
Look at my facts, and I will tell you that Derek is family, Loren is a family friend. I know people who are making metric ass-loads of money with Efusjon. Not me, not yet, but it WILL happen.
To those who are in the club, stick with it. Put all those people who flat out refuse to even look at it on your "I told you so" list and move on.
To those skeptics, do the research, come to your own conclusions, whatever they may be but at least look at what you're saying no to.
Comments, Questions, or Concerns? Find me at caminister@yahoo.com I'm open to discussion.
~ Cheers!
Brian,
I don't know if you read my above posts, but I don't think Efusjon is anywhere near the top best companies to be a part of. However, since you already got your three, I think you should stick with it and keep going. Even though there is too much risk that the company won't last, you can make big money in that period of time, however long it will be.
Bottom line, if you believe in what you are doing, don't let anything stop you. You got through the hardest part of getting your 3, but keep it up and get another 3. If you got 3, you can get another 3. When you have 6, you can get another 6.
Don't waste too much time coaching your downline. Keep recruiting - that is going to be key to being a true leader, and is the only way you're going to make it big. Don't stop at 3 and help your downline get 3, it's not going to work because only a small number of people signing up with get any signups at all.
Work the numbers. Recruit 50-100 people, and 3 - 5 of them (maybe more maybe less), will do the same and you will become wealthy. Don't stop recruting - that is what a matrix is all about.
Nolan
Thank you everyone for your comments!
Nolan I appreciate both your participation on this site and your point of view. I know there are many who share your thoughts. And I completely agree with you that if you believe in something don't let anything stop you.
However I see some other things a little differently.
First of all we can only truly know the level of risk something has in hindsight. Especially in these economic times, major blue chip companies have collapsed and fiesty startups have flourished. Who would have ever thought? Just because something is new does not in reality mean it's more risky although perception and conventional wisdom would say so.
What I think is a better barometer is assessing the industry, the management, the strategy, the comp plan and the behavior of the company. All of these are incredible in the case of Efusjon. Not because I say so, but because I have personally been witness to all this.
Second, I do believe in continuing to recruit, however I don't share the sentiment that coaching your downline is wasting your time.
I'm sure you didn't mean it in exactly the way it sounds, since you sound like someone who does understand MLM. And it's true that many spend time trying to revive the dead, because it saves their having to put themselves on the line again recruiting. But I do believe true leadership in MLM lies in knowing how to train and support your downline, giving them the tools to succeed and helping them adjust and refine as they go along. You just need to be able to differentiate between those just need help to succeed and will soon be on their own, and those who just want to have you as their friend and need a warm body to talk to.
Finally you are right. No matter what - work the numbers. I love the old adage "The harder I work, the luckier I get!"
And just for interest sake. Here are some of the celebrities who have recently gotten involved with the company.
William Shatner, Kurt Russell, Willie Nelson, Evander Holyfield, Darryl Strawberry and someone who I will be personally sponsoring whose name I am not yet at liberty to give out.
Be well everyone!
this is a great hub about efusjon - thanks efusjonzen for your story and others who are adding great info. i got a lot out of my visit here and am thinking seriously about joining. if i do, i'll definitely join your team as you really seem to have your act together, understand this business and people - and have the right connections.
Thanks so much for your comment! Glad you like the page. And of course we'd love to have you on our team should you make the decision to join Efusjon!
Take care and feel free to call if you have any questions.
Best,
Steven
If ya wanna be in a basic pyramid matrix, go for it. Lemmings love company. Do yourself a favor...Save your money; just eat right and drink water.
Appreciate the input Chaz. All opinions are welcome.
My comments on Efusjon:
My husband recently got suckered into this scam. Over three weeks ago. So we signed up to get our drinks to sell, we "joined the club", and it was great, we were going to be rich. But, of course, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
Our drinks were supposed to get to our house on May 28, and what's today? June 16? No drinks. I've called Efusjon customer service- (541-)306-6338-and left over ten messages wondering why I keep getting the answering machines. I've called UPS and everyone else that I needed to call, still no drinks.
So I think it's a scam. If it wasn't, someone would've called me back, or they'd have a phone number that I could contact them at... what if I wanted more? But they're not answering, so either way, they suck.
Now I'm out $200, and I refuse to let them withdraw money out of my account again. I think the video tipped me off.."Matrix"? More like PYRAMID SCHEME! They just sugar-coated everything.
Everything sounds great AND there are people making money that joined within the first months of the company. BUT... Did anyone explain that the whole payment plan was cut for NEW people? ya. Everyone at the top (first 20,000 or so in the company) get paid 4X more on all overlap spots, and anyone new only get paid 1% per person on overlap. So the people that joined early on in the company are going to make 4X more money, show these NEW people their check, and make false hopes for people. It's not fair that 2 people doing the same amount of work (if that's what you want to call it) will be making that much diff in pay. NOT FAIR. If they offered the same comp plan for everyone then maybe. My friend who is trying to get me in the company has about 40 somthing people in his downline and now makes a couple hundred dollars a month... but if I were to join and had 40 people in my downline (that I did not sponsor) I only get 40$ a month. 40 people is A LOT of people by the way. Anyway.... the only way EFUSJON is going to make it (in my opinion) is if they offer the same comp pay plan for EVERYONE in the compnay.
As I stated earlier, in my opinion, Efusjon creating this comp plan is like trying to re-create the wheel, and I think it's either going to collapse or simply not going to work out in the long run. Changes will need to be made to it eventually, unless there is something about it I am not understanding. The only thing people are pointing out about the comp plan is the good things and how much money you can make with it, but what about the bad things? How do we know the bad part about this comp plan other than using common sense? Who wrote this comp plan and what is his/her IQ? If they aren't considered a genius, that is a very bad sign for the future success of the company.
Again, I repeat, I think this company with this comp plan is designed for mass recruiting based on like 80% hype. This is going to result in lots of disappointed people (example above) and their hopes of making money or getting rich, because everyone is focused on recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, not how good the product is. I've seen this many times in the past. Many people will call it a scam, even though it's technically not, but perception is everything to me.
Nolan
nolan if you make only $1.00 above you investment then what are you out. and why would you be disappointed. Any good business man will look at a oppertunity and look at risk reward so you try it for three months thats roughly $450.00 reward over 8,000,000 a year. 38 people in your matrics you will be making at least $1 a month. theres 30,000 people in the company theres millions of people in the world, odds are if you got in right now your going to do pretty good and if not your out a whole $450 that you probly will spend on red bull anyway. oh and the first person that you sign up only has one less person then you have. teaching 3 people a concept that works is not that hard. even if I recrout more then 3 they will be placed under my down line becuse you only need three so I teach this to my downline and they do the same everybody is makeing money you dont have to get 100 people yourself that way of thinking is what kills a matrics if you can get 100 people thats great you just made 40 people in your downline money including yourself. if you do this dont you think your downline will return the faver and at least get 3. If that hapened you would now have 300. If you teach people a simple concept you will be successful. By the way 300 people pays 4,590 which means the 3 you signed you signed up are makeing at least 4,500 A MONTH.
Not to beat a dead horse but wouldn't you have loved to be in the top 30,000 of Amway when they first came out, who knew they would still be in business.
P-Oed.~Efusjons Customer Care number is 541-306-6838. Did you check your back office?
Anyway, hey everyone! Great postings.
I got my 1st check this month and boy oh boy does that feel good!
Blessings!
Dude I honestly can't tell if you were being sarcastic at the end or not, if you were that's one of the most sarcastic things I've ever seen, and hilarious. If not, then I honestly don't know what you find appealing about Efusjon, after you ripped apart everything purportedly good about it.
Thanks everyone for the fantastic conversation going on. This is an amazing opportunity and is worth the discussion!
Transparency is incredibly important for success in today's world of business. When people have both positive and negative things to say it brings issues out that can be discussed openly. Then readers can make their own decisions about this opportunity without feeling like anyone is hiding anything.
Jeramie... thanks for your great perspective. I see things similarly.
Nolan... appreciate you continuing to be engaged in our conversation here. Have you ever tried the Efusjon Energy Drink? When I'm talking to people about the opportunity many times they say something like, "Well I'll have to try the product first"
Whenever this happens I smile, because absolutely everyone who's ever said that has loved it! It is fantastic! Even my sister (who incidentally has no desire whatsoever to be in the business) says that in her house people are fighting over who gets the last drink when they get down to it. Nolan I suggest you find someone who has some. I'd love to get your reaction to it. Really.
To the person who had issues with the comp plan...
Tell me about another company besides Efusjon that will pay you for people you aren't responsible for bringing into your downline. It doesn't exist! This is the most unique plan out there. It is the simplest plan out there. With the way this is structured and with the upcoming Facebook rollout, it is not unlikely for someone to have a large number of people in their downline that they didn't have to bring in. If it's 100 - that's $100 free each month. If it's 1000 that $1000 free each month... and so on. The real trick is steady work, perseverance and patience. 3 things that many don't want to have anything to do with. But the reward for developing the ability to have those is incredible! And I, for one, plan on being there for the fantastic growth that is heading our way.
Take care everyone!
There's no way they're gonna put in a thousand people into your matrix each month unless you already have hundreds of people joined under you. This whole comp plan requires insane numbers of people to pay out. Depending upon your living needs, to make enough money to survive you need at least 650 people, on up. Those people aren't going to come out of thin air. I can see myself calling up a hundred people a day for a year and not getting half that amount.
Thanks for the post... and all of the conversation. I am currently in Efusjon and I am on a very strong and solid team. I am excited about the opportunity and I am aware that it will take time and patience for this to build. The overlapping community matrix will work for people in time. It does not happen overnight. I truly believe that with patience, Efusjon can bring in a strong residual income for people.. but it is not a get rich quick plan.
You know I have never had any sales or marketing position that I did not do extremely well. Problem is I was recentlly injured and was looking into something I could do while I recover. It appears everyone is so consumed with money and not the consumer or the product. Any company set up in this matter is a scam as far as I am concerned. You are selling MLM not the product. Just come out and say it. We are selling you an opportunity to make money and 99.9% don't. We don't necessarily care about the product we are selling or if its the best product out there, we don't care what we produce as long as we "the company" makes money. How generous of you to allow this opportunity for me to deceive my friends, coworkers, clients and/or prospective clients. If this was the last job on earth, I would rather starve and live in a hut than deceive people. You make a good product and it sells itself. You can't force people into buying large quantities of something they may not like or have never heard of. The fact of the matter as mentioned above should be the products components. I don't want to sell just anything, I want to sell the best and do good for this country as well as my family. Have you people every heard the word integrity? How about pride? You know most people fail in this business yet you don't care if its the last $30 dollars they have for a dream that probably won't come true for them. Thousands are without jobs and you are tempting people into a dream. Can you actually look into the mirror at yourself and be proud? Your day will come, maybe not today, tomorrow or next week or next year even, but it will come and you will come to know the word integrity far too late. Shame on you! I was hyped before knowing the true you and was excited someone was developing something healthy and was concerned about other people. You are concerned about yourself and sucking the last drop of blood out of everyone else.
My question is if you join now how many levels below the top (Derek Broes) are you?
The facebook launch will create a huge influx of people there is no doubt about that. They will be placed in Dereks matrix top to bottom and left to right. Great if you are at level 5 or 12 of Dereks matrix.(Really great if you are Derek Broes) But if you are below his 15th level, say at level 20 of the entire matrix it will take over 2 million people just to fill that one level left to right. At level 30 its over 2.1 billion.
If they get their 10 million people from facebook as predicted and you ad in the 40k current members that only fills the matrix top to bottm to 21 levels with some spill over into level 22.
If you are even as high as Dereks 12th or 13th level your matrix is never going to fill unless you and your team do it yourself. Not even close.
Is there anywhere anyone can see the entire matrix to see where the gaps are? Who has the highest position with an open spot under them? That is the person you want to have as your sponsor.
My wife and I have a friend is on the verge of being taken in by the efusjon nonsense. It's really a bummer, because we like her a bunch, but it's really annoying to hang out with someone who is all the time hinting about some lame 'opportunity'. It's also sad that she has dreams of quitting her job for efusjon, when, in reality, she is just going to loose money and be stuck with a few cases of a not-so-hot beverage.
I'm going to make some t-shirts that say "I survived efusjon Strugglefest 2009". I'll be selling them in a matrix scheme that MUST disadvantage other human beings in order to function 'successfully'. Who's in?
A lady several spots above me received her compensation check last month for just over $6000. Mine was $843. I have been involved for 3 months. These are real numbers and my checks will just go up from here.
This is not some "lame opportunity" Jimmy. If your freind puts the effort into this it deserves she will win at this. If your smart you will sign up under her and start building your business.
Want to know how to get rich? Its all about miltiple income streams. If you only have one income stream chances are very good you will work your whole life and have nothing to show for it.
What a great conversation taking place here. It is good to see both the positive and negative views of this opportunity.
What I will respond to is Consumer First. What an unfair thing for you to do, bash people who want to be successful in life. You have no right to say what Efusjon is doing is wrong and what its members are doing is something they should be ashamed of. This is a legal company utilizing a different type of marketing for a unique healthy alternative to energy drinks. It is that simply. What is the difference for me working for an office supply company selling paper and pencils only to make the CEO wealthy while I make an average wage to support my family? True, the Efusjon comp. plan was developed before the product was even decided on. In a backwards way you could say that means it is all about the comp. plan and not the actual product. However, they spent months researching what product deserves to be tied to this comp. plan. Imagine it as a company designing a beautiful sports car only to search for the perfect engine to propel it forward. There is risk involved. You do have to actual work to get your 3. But my friend, there is opportunity here. Don’t disrespect people’s dreams simply because you are comparing this company to other multi level marketing companies. You said yourself, “a dream the probably won’t come true.” Notice you used the word probably. I personally know people who have saved their home because of Efusjon, avoided bankruptcy because of Efusjon, and helped others do the same by introducing them to Efusjon. I am an honest man and I, like so many, was very skeptical at first but followed a trusted friend to meeting and realized the potential this had for not only me but everyone else involved. If I simply joined to benefit myself, I wouldn’t be taking the time to respond to this but you are ignorantly leading people in the wrong direction…
Matt, you are putting too much personal emphasis on this opportunity. It is not about deceiving the system in order to make a quick buck. It is about a community working together to become financially sound. It’s about growing your own Matrix to help those around you while they do the same. It is a pay it forward mentality. The community overlap should simply be considered an added bonus not something to depend on. Yes, Derek is making money but he is working amazingly hard to do so. We can do the same if we believe in it. If people are selling this to you as a business you’ll make millions at then that is a bit absurd. Some will make millions eventually, but it’s about adding extra income to your bank account each month that will continue to grow as you and your matrix continue to share the opportunity.
Jimmy, I love the shirt idea! Seriously! There are those who refuse to open their mind to Efusjon, which is completely fine. Just tell your friend thanks, but it is not for me. Some people can get overly excited by this because they see the potential in it and can’t understand why others don’t. Don’t hold it against them, they are just trying to help. Many, many people have been burned by MLM’s in the past and no matter what you tell them they refuse to believe this Efusjon thing is any different. I add them to my “I told ya so” list. To be honest, that list started out really big but now it’s only a few diehard’s. If you doubt it, don’t join. Simple as that. I am sure the diehards on my “I told ya so list” would love one of your shirts.
Thanks,
T.
Huge MLM fan here. Been involved for 4 yrs and currently between companies. I don't really like the comp plan. I feel binary is the only way to go. But thats my opinion. Doesnt matter. I can say this...All of the "hey man have you heard of efusjon. Im not in or anything so dont think im trying to get you in. or check out this scam" Seriously!?! you suck that bad that you need to resort to that? I have built downlines of thousand and never once did i need to resort to lies. Come on efuzjonzen or whatever the fuck your name is? you know that your a deceptive piece of shit. I would have signed up and kicked your ass all over the place if you would have shot straight with me from the beginning. I agree with who ever said this thing is guarunteed to collape at any moment. BTW where is you income income disclosue statement. Someone asked you how much you made and you gave some lame ass excuse. Your company is required to have a diclosure statement. I think I'll call the AG and file a complaint. Pathetic
Hi Wes. Thanks for your comments. You're absolutely correct about the approach. This Hubpage was my initial foray into online marketing for eFusjon and we felt that this way of doing it would be received with the sense of humor that was intended. Many people enjoyed Ricky's story and expressed great support. Unfortunately others such as yourself had a negative response.Because of that and because I always want to be working with integrity, I have decided to take down this page. I will be creating another web presence soon that will continue the good conversations, but will approach things with a less "controversial" story.Wes I think that if you read most of the comversation and my posts you might be a little less critical. Also if you chose to investigate, you would have found that I got more calls and emails from people already in eFusjon with questions about building their business or understanding the company - calls which I returned, and people from whom I had nothing to gain - you might have been a little less eager to refer to me as "a deceptive piece of shit". I have used my own time and energy to support these people, time I could have used to build my own business or spend with my 3-year-old son.Of course MLM is always a polarizing and emotional business, so I don't fault your intense reaction. But it reminds me of a story I read. The storyteller was on the subway and saw a man just sitting there as his unruly children ran all over the subway car wreaking havoc. Our storyteller had the thought, "Look at that. What an awful parent and what wild children. He should be ashamed of himself allowing that to happen!" Then one of the kids bumped into him. The "lousy" father stood up and said, "Oh I'm so sorry. I should have been watching the kids, but we're coming back from the hospital. Their mother died this morning and we're all just not ourselves."If you are indeed open, as you said, feel free to call. I will be happy to share with you why I think this company will be around for the long haul.Best... Steven
I don't understand that even if you don't agree with it why can't you use class when posting an objection? Thanks Steven for this converation tool, how can I be notified on the new site? Thanks Nolan for keeping your objections respectable.
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Hi vansmack. Thanks for your support. I would be happy to let you know where the conversation is moving to. Why don't you send me your email address and I'll keep you updated.
Best... Steven
to Ricky, I couldnt even finish reading this garbage, you dont even have facts, you cant say that MLM facts are efusjon facts. Heres facts, 2% of people drop out of efusjon, 2% not 2/3 LIKE the OTHER MLM's, oh yeah and efusjon is up to over 50,000 people since it started just last September, man that sure sounds like a failing business to me, NOT! and its in the top 10 energy drinks in less than a year as well. Did you know that efusjon doesnt do any advertising, WE are the advertisers thats where all that money goes..in our pocket! other energy drinks spend millions on advertising. and its not even on facebook yet, after that its going to canada, asia etc. with the U.S at the top. Your ridiculous, its happening even if you arent doing it or not. Any idiot without his tinfoil hat can figure it out. Sounds like you've got some pride issues there, like somebody actually found something awesome before you did and your mad because there really arent problems with this system. Have a good day!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your site didn't offer any helpful information. Honestly, I think you've been burned by an MLM and now you have a bitter taste in your mouth. Fact remains when I look into EFusjon the cost is cheap to join and the upside outweighs the downside. What can I loss? I sign up for a total $186 and try it for 60 days. If I'm not happy quit, oh well I gave it a shot and end up with 48 cans of EFusjon, which by the way from what I have tried is really good and it is healthy. If it works, well I am making some money. Maybe it will be $100 extra a month after purchasing the product. Oh well it is something and maybe it will go big. It is so new, I can't justify Not giving it a shot.
Thanks again everyone for you comments.
LB - The Facebook launch is definitely happening on the 22nd. There has been a lot of misinformation coming down through some badly informed reps. Here's the real deal: The Facebook app IS the game. There is no change up and there are no half measures being deployed. People will play the game and as I understand it, be able to see the opportunity if they desire. Then if they choose they can sign up under your distributor number through the game. The strategy behind this is not to club people over the head with "join eFusjon!!!" but to actually have some fun with them and let them desire to investigate the company. This is going to be groundbreaking!
Chance - sorry you couldn't finish the article. If you had you would have seen that Ricky ended up turning around and seeing what a great opportunity eFusjon is! And joining.
Steve - Sounds like you had the same problem as Chance. You are absolutely right. There is nothing really to lose with eFusjon. AND everything to gain. Maybe read down through all the conversation and you might still find some helpful information.
All the best everyone! Steven
you know what my apologies, your right efusjonzen, I was fried from what I actually did read and it blew my mind, thanks for the heads up! sorry:).......and I take back the tinfoil hat comment:)!!!!!!!
No problem Chance! Let's make a bunch of money and help a lot of others do the same!
Best,
Steven
This is brainwashing. Very clever to play they nay-sayer who prooved himself wrong. When this thing crumbles, I will enjoy watching it burn to the ground. One of your valued associates fired me from my job because I would not invest in this shit. I am on to this shit and am currently speaking with the Feds about it! My ex Boss's name is Randy Willson of Randy Willson painting in Chattanooga TN. He sicked his team of underdogs on me to try and sign me up with this scheme and I was too wise for it. I made it clear I did not want to join "but thanks anyway" I was fired the next day. You guys may rip off alot of people and make tons of cash tricking others but there will be a reckoning. Just ask Mr. Madoff.
efusjonzen since your so interested in "Let's make a bunch of money and help a lot of others do the same!" why dont you help me out and sign some people up under me? Im tryin really hard and the person who signed me up put me under one of there deadbeats that hasnt done anything and its affecting me... Im trying to get people interested but they wanna see my back office and I've been in for a month and have no one under me at all!!!
I was told about this by a friend of mine who knows that i subscribe to a very healthy drink powder mix. I thought I would look into the product to see if it was something I would like to drink anyway. If I were to want the product myself and it was a good enough product for me to spend the money on, I would do it. WHy not? Why not have a chance to make money from ordering something healthy that I would drink anyway? However, I am not happy with the product. it is way too expensive for what it is. I am not happy with carbonated water and Crystallized fructose. I would rather buy organic acai juice from the health store to avoid the other ingredients. The other product i order on a monthly basis is only $20 a month and is REALLY much better for you with no questionable ingredients and no fat, calories or artificial sweeteners. I would much rather "sell" people on that because i love the taste and believe in the quality. I have given it to people as gifts and they have enjoyed it. Too bad that company doesn't offer some sort of "make money while you use it" plan. cannot ask my friends to try a drink like efusjon that isn't that good. I cannot push on strangers a product that I feel isn't all that healthy. I feel like this friend of mine is trying to get me to sign up so she can make money off of me. She claims she has made over $30,000 dollars right now, but couldn't really explain the tax situation to me. I mean, I would assume she knows how she is reporting all this income for her taxes at the end of the year.
Josh... I understand your frustration. I have many days like that too. It goes with the territory. What has been said to me is that Network Marketing is the only business where you can work 40 hours a week and make nothing and then work 5 hours a week a make a pile. That is why your vision of "why" you are doing this is sooooo important.
Please I don't mean to be cliché or trite. This can be very frustrating, but then again so is every business that you have great upside potential in.
When I bring someone into eFusjon I always talk about the overlap, which I was lucky with in my position, but so far which my wife's position has not seen a lot of. But after several months she has gotten her first.
This is a young company and the Matrix has only begun to fill in. Facebook has only just launched yesterday. There is much to come. I have nothing to gain from your remaining in eFusjon. But I truly believe everyone will benefit.
There is also a learning curve if you've never been in MLM before. If you read and talk to people and seek out information, you will get better at it. You only need three who you will help get their three. I personally wouldn't stop at three because you don't want your income depending on only one person.
Finally, yes it is difficult before you have made money to "sell" people on making money. So be honest. Tell them you're still just getting started. Let them know that you believe in what you are doing. You will find people who see the opportunity and want it too. People are interested in what it can do for their life and they will be interested in working with you. Key is going upline until you fine someone who is good at this business and understands that helping you helps them. Hope this is of some benefit to you.
Please include me when you do your new page. Thanx!
I'll send my addy.
Anyone else who wants to know when I'm up again on a new page, feel free to email me. This site will be coming down tomorrow night.
Thanks for participating!
Steven
I appreciate you putting this site together. It has helped me with my decision process.
Most people will wind up broke at age 65. I know because the stats support it and plus my own experience in working with people to help them become financially independent. I have been in the financial services industry for 30 years.
Financial independence is created either through a business or investment (mostly real estate) or both. Most people starting a business fail in first 3 years. They either lack business training or experience or they simply don't have capital to get through the lean time. There are other factors to that can contribute but these are the most common.
Efujson offers a business model that will let you sell a pretty good product with a reasonable compensation system. If you take that plus hard work on your part and the training that is offered by folks like you, there is a good chance you will make some money and maybe even a lot of money.
There will always be people who will take shots at you or your business. When some the folks on this site where making accusatory remarks with great vitriol, they conveniently did not offer any solutions that maybe they were currently working on that could help other people with their health and build financial independence. I quickly dismissed them. Some others were more thoughtful and did offer good commentary such as Norm. I respect that.
Is there the possibility that something can go wrong down in the future and you could loose your business? Of course. That exist with any business. But the risk here is minimal with a $150 monthly investment plus some office expenses. But welcome to the business world. But this model has very good upside potential and it is something that most people can understand. A product that can help improve your overall health (who would be against that) and a marketing concept that allows you to make money off of other people buying the same product. Sounds like capitalism to me.
Keep me in the loop. I have sent you my email address separately so you can let me know when you launch the next site.
Hey Mike! Thanks for your comments and the terrific post. Got your email and will keep you posted.
And you are absolutely right. My wife and I are launching a company that we have been working on for 4 years and have invested TONS of money in. We feel it will ultimately be extremely successful. However when you compare what we are doing to what our investment both time wise and money wise are with eFusjon it is crazy! The eFusjon opportunity is amazing.
What a crock of crap.
Hi Shannon. What do you think is a crock of crap? Can you give me a little more info. The reason I ask is because my wife and I actually have invested TONS! of money in our other business and about 4 years. Is that the crock of crap you're referring to? Or are you saying that eFusjon costs more? Let me know. I'm curious.
Thanks! Steven
My wife joined Efusjon in February. I felt it was important to post here based on our experience. When we joined the launch for the great social networking app was to be in late March, then it was postponed due to "changes on Facebook".
This is the email content we received from Efusjon "Hello efusjon team, Things are progressing well with the new online tools for Facebook. We are actively testing the product to assure its functionality is perfect. You may have noticed that Facebook has changed the format of the home page of your profile. This change has caused us to re-evaluate the tool and make some alterations which will create a slight delay in launch. However, we estimate a beta launch in a week and full launch shortly after.Once these tools launch we will hold calls and online lessons to make certain everyone knows how to effectively utilize the application. We are very excited and look forward to driving the largest growth in network marketing history" (received 3/16/09)
Little communication came after this regarding the app, other than we are still working on it. Then in on 3/31/09 an exciting email about the compensation plan was sent out
"Hello efusjon team, We will be implementing an enhancement to the efusjon compensation plan that will be effective starting tomorrow Wednesday, April 1, 2009. The enhancement to the compensation plan is as follows:
MEMBERS
Instead of the previous commission, Members will now receive:
4.25% of the total sales volume of all orders placed by customers through their efusjon websites.
ASSOCIATES
Instead of the previous commission, Associates will now receive:
4.25% of the total sales volume of all orders placed by customers through their efusjon website, or placed by efusjon energy club Members they have personally enrolled.
EXECUTIVES
Instead of the previous commission, Executives will now receive:
4.25% of the total sales volume of all orders placed by customers, their enrolled Members and every qualified Associate in their community matrix.
For example if you are an Executive and an Associate completes their autoship for $120.00 that would mean a commission of $5.10 for you. YES! We gave you a raise. The new enhancements will also allow you to benefit from an Associate that you have enrolled who is doing volume above the monthly autoship as we will give you 4.25% of ALL their volume.
How do I figure out my commission at the end of the month? In the bottom right hand corner of your community matrix you will find the total Sales Volume you have achieved. Simply multiply this number by 0.0425 and that will give you your total commission.
These enhancements should increase your pay and allow greater flexibility with your efusjon business. Although these enhancements will be effective tommorrow, we will be updating the material on the website and videos over the next several days. Have a great day!"
On 4/8/09 we received an email telling us "Hello efusjon team, Today efusjon is launching its “No Associate Left Behind” compensation plan. The efusjon energy club is a company built on the energy of people working together. This is why we use words like “club”, “team” and “community” when speaking of you. The Community Matrix is built by everyone enrolling three people with the understanding that those three people will be part of the team and enroll their three people as well. In this way the Community Matrix grows and EVERYONE benefits. However we have been watching a pattern where half the team is working and the other half is enrolling their moms, grandmas and family dogs (all of which have no intention of building the business) simply to qualify for the overlap generated by the other team members. This has been causing the Community Overlap to stall and is not beneficial for the entire efusjon team. Furthermore, we have been receiving numerous calls at corporate regarding enrollers not helping their enrollees build their business and receive a paycheck as well. We are a team and we need to help everyone receive a paycheck in the efusjon energy club. Therefore, to compensate the team members who are building the business by helping others build their business and to incentivize the ones who are not, we are instituting a new rank in the compensation plan. The below changes are effective immediately for the month of April and going forward:
Jr. Executive: $120.00 monthly business volume required to receive and maintain a position in the compensation plan. This Associate has personally enrolled 3 people and is eligible for compensation of 2.125% of total sales volume on all 15 levels.
Executive: $120.00 monthly business volume required to receive and maintain a position in the compensation plan. This Associate has personally enrolled 3 Associates who have achieved the rank of Jr. Executive (in other words their 3 people have enrolled 3 people) and is eligible for compensation of 4.25% of total sales volume on all 15 levels."
This total changed the compensation plan in 8 days. But wait I get another email the SAME day "
Hello efusjon team, Given some of the concerns raised by the field today regarding our comp plan change we will be leaving our old comp plan in tact. Please understand this was done with our best intentions towards our Associates and we have heard you! We are sorry if this has caused a breach of trust between you and us, or people that you have enrolled, this was not our intention...we want you to succeed and we will be different then any other company out there because we are a team and we are listening to our team members right now. So go out there and just get your 3...and have a great evening!" I became very skeptical at this point. It's bad business to mess with peoples compensation plans without obviously thinking it through.
After this email volley, emails stopped flowing from efusjon.
So why did my wife continue, because of the whole Facebook launch, which was imminent. Remember the email that was dated 3/16/09, well....the app didn't launch until July 22nd, 09 (Way to deliver). The app was to be revolutionary,expanding growth and my wallet exponentially. Well, theres no movement in my wifes Matrix....hmmm. Oh by the way Derek Broes the great designer and promoter, I hear is being canned for illegal/unethical practices. Needless to say my wife is pulling out now. I post this because, I know the economy is tough, we all want a quick fix to relieve the financial pressures on us. I believe efusjonzen is making money because he is very savy in building his own network. If you don't have the skills he posesses don't buy into an idea that some revolutionary product is going to do it for you. Unfortunately, Efusion sold my wife on the idea and unfortunately did not deliver. I hope Efusjonzen does not delete this post and will allow this difference of opinion.
I knew it!! This whole thing was just a sales pitch!!! I'm in efusjon, a charter member, and am now leaving this company. They are liers, and scammers!!! Everything you said in the beginning of this blog is absolutely right- on for MLM's, including this fraud of a business ,efusjon. I just came out of the revolving door with a sad, torn up look on my face. I just feel sorry for the ones going in, all happy and excited. They completely screwed us. It's over, the ship is sinking, I'm bailing out before I drown.
Thanks for you comments VoiceoReason. It concerns me that efusjon keeps changes its comp plan all the time. I joined April 18th and since then the comp plan has changed 2 times. One on May 1st 09 and one on Aug 1st 09. I keep thinking if they have thought this through. It also shows a pattern of changing the comp program in their favor when ever efusjon sees fit. I losing my trust in them. I am making a little money with them right now, but I will see what happens. This last changed didn't affect me because I don't have any overlap but it affects some people below me and some might get out because of the change. We'll see what happens. I might be getting out myself if the changes keep up.
Thank you everyone for your comments. Yes, this is a disturbing move. One for which I have no current explanation. However I will keep you all updated on the information I receive in regards to this. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a positive outcome. Reserving judgment on this myself.
What a scam. If it sounds to good to be true it is.
I joined up April 30 th because a friend showed me his back office and he was making money. I bought a spot for my wife and we made about 30.00 above our autoships after 60 days. Then the Facebook launch hit and everybody is jumping out as fast as they can except for the people how were making good money and they are working hard to save their sinking ships. Facebook was supposed to fill our matrixes and we were supposed to get fancy new efusjon/facebook pages. Well it was all hype and Rob Towles of Efusjon kicked Derek Broes out of efusjon. I even bought a 3rd spot a month ago on Kathy Broes 4th level because that should have got a lot of Facebook overlap, it got zero.
I am dropping all 3 of my spots, I have watched my friends matrix of 440 people shrink in a few days to 380 and so far 88 of those are now members and we expect many more won't pay there auto ships.
Even before the Facebook launch very few of our people under us got anybody to join and now efusjon has taken away our grand father pay too that was 5.10 a person for overlap and direct people.
Efusjon is just typical MLM,,, a JOKE
Derek Broes's mom posted on facebook that he is still in Efusjon. We were told that Rob had kicked him out, I don't trust any thing from Efusjon corporate.
Total scam, it's pyramid scheme with a bs product. Anyone who signs up is a idiot.
Love all the positive comments! I and everyone else who is normal are attracted to people like you guys! Joined Efusjon July 14th and am already paying for my drinks. I am 24 and don't have a rich contact base. Anyone can really do this one! Just going to be interesting to see when people stop fighting it and start joining. I can reassure you anyone that is posting negative comments about eFusjon has not done the research! If you do and have any kind of business savvy the more you want to join this one and try it.
P.S. One reason I am doing really well is because my team has only been doing it 2 months and we are over 800 distributors strong and we all work together. I have 84 in my donwline and 76 are overlap! Watch the movie pay it forward then apply that here. This business is about helping others and then getting a profit on the side! This thing will be around for a while!
I was very concerned about the Changes efusjon made August 1st, but now I am excited again about efusjon. I still have no overlap so I'm not getting help from the sides of my matrix. My down line is growing faster and faster and I am starting to make more money. I went to see Rob Towles in the middle of August and he was able to answere many of the questions I had. As long as efusjon make sense I will stay in and work it.
Being considered major industry leaders (my partner and I have around 60 years of experience and have built some of the largest, fastest growing, and most successful groups in the industry over the past 3 decades), all I can say is apparently all of you are new to the industry and do not possess much knowledge of the history of our industry, pay plans, etc.
Opinions are one thing, history and facts another!
1) Efusjon is less than 2 years old. 98% of new companies fail in their first 2 years! Furthermore, of the 30,000-50,000 companies that have launched in the past 6 decades, less than 100 make it to the 10 year mark! You’re talking 1 company, on average, out of every 300-500 companies that launch surviving 5-10 years! One! That’s called luck! A fluke! No smart entrepreneur bets their success on luck!
Of course, the “big lie” that is used to promote groundfloor programs is that it is those that are in at the beginning are the ones who make the big money, and that is the rationale for taking a high risk bet. There’s just one problem: It’s just not true! Most top income earners at the “old school” companies are not those that were in at the beginning. Many didn’t get involved until the 2-3-4-5th year or later!
2) Matrix plans do NOT work which explains the frequent changes at Efusjon! Of the 30,000-50,000 opportunities that have launched over the past 6 decades, only 1 has experienced any significant, long term success with a matrix pay plan-one! Whenever something only works once, we call that a fluke!
Nobody in their right mind would get involved with something that has only worked once! (Owners looking for a short term cash grab like them because they know that their company is not likely to be around 2-3 years from now and matrix plans pay out less money than any other pay plan due to all the breakage that occurs, regardless of whether it's a forced matrix, has compression, etc.)
Furthermore, the one particular company that has had some success launched 25 years ago, when there were far fewer opportunities available. Today that same company probably wouldn't survive 10 years.
No experienced or knowledgeable network marketing professional with an understanding of the history of our industry and compensation plans would ever work a matrix plan, no matter what typical wrinkle you add such as forced matrix, compression, or some new fangled idea!
Claims of massive amounts of potential spillover are further evidence that people have no grasp of how compensation plans works. Each level you go down in a matrix plan the less in potential spillover occurs, not more! It’s a basic mathematical fact! (If you want maximum potential for spillover, work a binary plan!)
Additionally, regulators consider matrix pay plans gimmicky and they're most often associated with "money games."
So far, Efusjon has made several changes in their compensation plan and I’ve got news for you-they’ll be making several more, it’s just a matter of time! Why? Because matrix plans don’t work!
Reasons #1 and #2 would be reason enough not to get involved with Efjusjon IF you were looking to put the odds of success in your favor! You’ve got the biggest strikes against right from the start! The odds of a new company surviving 5 years are 1 in 30-500 (talk about a long shot!) and a pay plan concept that has never worked! Nothing like virtually guaranteeing you’re going to fail than signing up in a new company with a matrix pay plan!
And then people wonder why 97% of people in our industry fail, never succeed, and never make money! It starts with making a smart business decision and putting the odds of success in your favor, not trying to beat the odds!
As if reasons #1 and #2 weren’t bad enough…..
3) The “Facebook application” has been one big hype job! In fact, Facebook itself is not real happy! Furthermore, driving traffic and attracting eyeballs is one thing-whether or not they stick once they sign up for the long term is another matter, and in fact, due to having a matrix plan, that virtually assures they won't stick long term. Many are already leaving and moving to VEMMA!
Here’s 9 additional reasons why VEMMA and it’s Verve energy drink is a much smarter business decision:
4) VEMMA’s Verve Energy Drink is a Superior Product!
Verve has a higher ORAC score and a complete spectrum of 12 vitamins, 65 essential and trace minerals, antioxidants, Aloe Vera, Green Tea, and the amazing superfruit, Mangosteen, is supported by clinical studies, and recommended by leading doctors! In addition, Mangosteen is considered to be a superior superfruit to Acai as shown in Men’s Health magazine. Efusjon is NOT a full spectrum formula and has no clinical studies!
Verve is available in 8 ounce cans and 3 ounce shots with regular or sugar free versions.
Most exciting, we have recently launched an exciting product for children 2-12 years of age!
Finally, VEMMA has its own 70,000 square foot, state of the art manufacturing facility.
5) VEMMA Has Superior Value!
In VEMMA, the distributorship is FREE! Efusjon charges $30!
6) VEMMA Has Superior Recognition and Media Coverage!
Verve has just been named 2009 Product of the Year in competition held by a leading fitness/health publication whose judging panel included fitness pros, doctors, and anti-aging specialist and it’s now the official energy drink of 4 U.S. pro sports teams, a first in network marketing history!
In addition, it’s been featured on the covers of and/or in such magazines as Success, Women’s Fitness, Work at Home, Ms. Fitness, and others!
7) VEMMA Has a Superior Pay Plan!
Top distributors are earning up to $100,000 a month and more within 1-3 years, most having started part time and the best part is you only have to build 2 teams! Top incomes after 3-4 years are up to $2 million a year and growing! And the best part is in VEMMA’s distributorship is FREE (Efusjon charges $30) and in VEMMA you get paid weekly whereas in Efusjon you don’t get paid until the middle of the following month!
8) VEMMA Has a Superior Management Team
VEMMA is a rapidly growing, 5 year old international company recently featured on the covers of Success magazine and Direct Selling News, one of the industry’s leading trade journals! The VEMMA ownership and management team has already built one billion dollar network marketing company (the parent company of VEMMA). Who is more likely to build a billion dollar network marketing company-People who have done it before or those that never have done it? Common sense should give you the answer!
9) VEMMA Has More Countries to Market In!
VEMMA is legally operating in 50 countries, far more than Efusjon, with an emphasis on legally! Most MLM companies “fly under the radar” when it comes to operating in foreign countries.
10) We Have a Superior Team to Join!
My partner and I have 60 years of combined experience in network marketing, having built some of the largest, fastest growing and most successful groups in the history of the industry. In 2 companies prior to VEMMA, we built combined teams of more than 600,000 distributors, generated $2 billion in group sales, and helped numerous people on our teams to earn up to $1 million a year and more!
We’re now #3 top earners with the number one international group! Join a team with support, training, a powerful, online business building system, and leadership! You'll be sponsored by and work directly with us!
11) Timing and Positioning
Here’s the best part! Once you’re positioned on our global expansion team, everyone we sponsor in any of 50 countries goes below you, positioning you with the opportunity to earn an income on their sales and on the 2 teams they develop, enabling you to primarily focus on building just one team! It sure beats having to build 3 “legs” or teams!
12) State of the art, web enabled websites with facebook and twitter application, blogging capabilities, and more plus advanced back office architecture with up to the minute details on your business.
13) VEMMA has a stronger story!
Now, you can either make a smart business decision a
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Now, you can either make a smart business decision and make your move now and end up with a lot of Efusjon and other people in up to 50 countries below you, or wait and find out when reality hits you that many that were below you in Efusjon have left, and will now be above you when you finally join! (They’re not going to tell you they’re moving until they get positioned first so that they end up above you instead of you making a move first and having them go below you. This is why you need to take action now so that you can get positioned above them!)
Note: If you are a proven leader with a large organization, contact us at: themlmdreamteam@hotmail.com
We’ve got a special limited time offer for a select few leaders to be positioned on top of a team we're developing! If you can build one just one "leg," you could be earning up to $25,000 a WEEK + matching bonuses! It doesn't get any easier that having to build just one leg! Sure beats having to build 3 legs + filling thousands of holes in a matrix!
Visit our website at: www.myvemma.com/themlmdreamteam
The Efusjon plan is a total, complete fraud...and one the authorities should be made well aware of.
(I cancelled my membership)
This is a request to cancel any future autoship orders from Efusjon and terminate my membership. No longer able to afford the expensive products or get 3 enrolled...especially for $200. Facebook residents are simply not interested in joining the Efusjon Energy Club...not even for the $30 membership. The other
reason for termination is the individual who got me involved, who has her 3 sign-ups yet cannot afford the autoshipments. Instead of fanancial freedom, she
now works in a cheap grocery store at minimum wage and considering dropping out as well.
I know a lot of people are upset that Efusjon didn't work for them. I would guess they joined with the expectation that they would be making lots of money with out any work on their part. I was not happy when the changes were made, but I sat back and gave this more thought. I looked at this like I look at a business. I have zero overlap from my sides so the changes didn't affect me. If and when I get overlap, I'll think of it as a bonus. I am making this work by my work and the work of those who I have signed up. My down line is still growing. I have had 7 people join in the last 4 days. When I talk to someone about joining I tell them that it takes a lot of work. Don't depend on the overlap to make your business for you. If you can't get your three, and help your three get their three and so on, this is not for you. If you can't afford the cost of the sign up and the auto ships this is not for you. This will take time and if you keep going it will work. I heard all the hype at the beginning and I didn't buy it. They said that talking to people was the old fashion way. The new way was through facebook and online. I quess I'm old fashion. My line continue to grow and the last two months I have seen the bigest growth yet. Like I said before, as long as this makes sense I will be working this. It will still take a lot of work, but I am willing to keep working as long as I believe in it. Just remember MLM's are not for everybody. Efusjon is going through a weeding out process and many are leaving because it didn't work for them. I have never work in a mlm before so I quess I didn't know what to expect. I just know that it takes a lot of work and that there are no free lunches.
I joined Efusjon with the promise from my upline that he would help me and train me. All he did was scam me into signing up and forking over $200. Never heard from the guy again after that. This is not a scam but it is a typical MLM where the folks at the top make the money regardless of Efusjon's pay plan and community overlap. I would not recommend this to anyone, if you want an all natural energy drink, then spend $2 at 7-Eleven, do not send your hard earned money to these vulchers.
Do not send these idiots any money, you are only paying the bozos at the top, yes, including Derek Broes. The only reason Derek Broes supposedly quit his high-paying position at Paramount was to collect his millions at the top of this pyramid. He is not an idiot, he is making more now then he did at Paramount or Microsoft. This money is being paid by the little people under him, the people that cannot afford to buy this shit month after month. This is only a pyramid scheme where the product is a secondary thought, an over-priced energy drink? Laughable! Keep your money in your own pocket and quit gambling on Efusjon making you rich.
Hilarious.
Great post... I'm just wondering how unique and/or how different your product is to the verve energy drink (part of the vemma family)... in any case I wish you all the best in your venture... good luck and all the best!
You need to learn about attraction marketing techniques to find the people that are already looking for biz opportunities. I'm developing such a system for Efusjon right now. http://www.fullfusjon.com
Nick says:
6 months ago
How much have you spent in this program and how much havey you made?