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By Manna in the wild

Original work. Sept 2009. Revision 1.0

Revision 1.1 : added an alternate explanation for constant speed of light. 


An age-old question

For many years, we have wondered if there is a way to travel faster than the speed of light. Alas, not only can we not do that, we cannot even send a signal faster than light. To do so would allow us to see what will happen before it happens. At a non-quantum scale, cause always precedes effect.



Faster than light signalling is nearly as impossible as the paperless office.

Rest mass:

The traditional way to define rest-mass is as stated by Galileo and Newton. They defined mass as that property of a body that governs its acceleration when acted on by a force.

Particles like a proton or electron have a non-zero rest-mass. For example, the rest-mass of all electrons is 9.10938188 x 10-31 Kilograms, and all electrons have exactly the same mass. Rest mass is an intrinsic property of the object.

A photon however, has no rest mass and yet it is the carrier for the electromagnetic force. How then, can something with no mass take part in a physical interaction like a solar-cell? If a photon has no mass, how is it able to knock electrons about and make an electric current? You will read, no doubt that light from a distant planet is bent by a gravitational field. How can it be influenced by a gravitational field if it has no mass?


Photons are influenced by a gravitational field.

An animated picture showing how light is bent by the gravitational field of a black hole. Credit: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BlackHole_Lensing.gif where permission and conditions are found.
An animated picture showing how light is bent by the gravitational field of a black hole. Credit: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BlackHole_Lensing.gif where permission and conditions are found.

Relativistic Mass

I am going to start this with the traditional explanation of relativistic mass, but try to read this as just one of a possible number of explanations - not that it is wrong, but just with the mind that although this is a common explanation, it is not the only way to look at things. At the end of this section I will present another approach on how to understand the constant speed of light.

Surprisingly, confusion about mass is seldom explained clearly in elementary texts, and taken for granted in more advanced treatments.

Einstein's famous E=Mc2 equation shows that mass and energy are related. We know that a photon has energy, and we know that it moves at 299 792 458 meters every second. This has the symbol "c".

By rearranging Einstein's equation into M = E/c2 we see that M cannot be zero because c is a constant, and a photon has energy.

Here is the source of confusion. Mostly, you hear this equation described as the mass energy equivalence equation. If it is thought of as the relativistic mass energy equivalence equation then it makes it clear that something other than the Galilean definition of mass is being used.

Just to add a little more confusion back (you don't get anything for nothing), even the use of the term relativistic mass has been controversial. See this university page for more information.

E=Mc2 says that the relativistic mass of an object may be quantified in units of energy and vice versa. The conversion factor is c2. As energy is added to a system, that system's mass is increased. This implies that a stone would weigh more on Earth if it is heated up, and that is true. However, the difference would be insignificant.

Rest-mass is a property of an object which is measured to be the same value no matter what your frame of reference. Relativistic mass is not measured the same for all frames of reference. It comes into play when an object is moving, and is added to the rest-mass. At low speeds, relativistic mass has little effect, but at speeds approaching c, the effect is completely overwhelming.

An object with rest-mass that is moving near the speed of light - as in the case of an electron in a cathode-ray tube requires the rest-mass plus the relativistic mass of the electron to be used in ballistic calculations.

Many physicists prefer to avoid the confusion over mass by using only rest-mass, and noting that this is a property of the object itself which is measured to be invariant. That is, it has the same value to all observers regardless of their speed. Any energy added to a system is described in other terms than mass - such as momentum. This removes the confusion somewhat, but in popular texts, the term relativistic and rest-mass are here to stay.

I promised an alternate way to look at the constancy of light. Here it is:

The fact that a photon has no rest-mass means that it cannot be accelerated. Therefore is has to travel at c. So you cannot BOUNCE a photon, or 'give it a nudge', and if you do something to add more energy to it then its frequency changes but not its speed. For example, if you rush towards a photon, then it blue-shifts which means, for your frame of reference, it is a higher energy, and thus is more energetic. Conversely, if you back away from a photon then it red-shifts and looks like it has a lower frequency and less energy. When you make a torch shine, then you are creating a fresh photon which leave the torch at c until it bumps into something at which point it is absorbed. In transparent mediums like glass and air etc, the photons are mostly absorbed and re-emitted, usually with a different direction (scattering), perhaps with a significant colour when some frequencies are absorbed more easily. But in free space, we can think of the photon that you created as zipping off into space at c.

Let's stand on the ground and do this in a thought experiment. Stand on a moving walkway with a torch pointing forward. The photons are still leaving the torch at c. Now speed up the walkway incrementally for a moment and fall back to a constant, but greater velocity (relative to the people not on the walkway). The photons still leave the torch at c. Now imagine everything around you except the walkway to fade away so that you cannot detect anything except you, your walkway, the torch, and the light beam. Everything looks exactly as it did when you where stood firmly on the ground. You can't tell in your inertial frame whether you are moving or not. Now the walkway accelerates again - just a little. You can tell that happens because momentarily, you feel a as if a gravitational pull acted on your back. But when it settles down, your torch is still creating photons at c, and you can't tell whether you are moving or not. You can get 'boosted ' like this forever, and the torch still creates photons that leave at c. Time and motion look normal to you at all times that you are traveling at constant velocity. The people next to the walkway view a different scene though. They see you periodically accelerating towards the speed of light (in their frame of reference), but never actually reaching it. Your movements appear to them to slow down progressively.

The relativistic mass that we were talking of earlier is only of any importance to the people who are watching you on the walkway. Furthermore, if there were other walkways with people traveling on them and they could see you, their impression of you and your torch would be different in each case. But inside your inertial frame, everything is just sweet.

Slow down, you move too fast, you got to make the morning last.

The tough question is "Why does light travel at a constant speed?". No one really knows. The speed of light may be expressed in terms of two other constants, but that does not really help you answer the question. The converse question is somewhat more revealing which is, "How could light travel at ANY speed?" If you heard that light must travel at a constant speed no matter the frame of reference and find it hard to swallow, then the consequences of imagining it to travel at any speed is preposterous. This would imply allowing to travel infinitely fast, or send a signal infinitely fast which is ridiculous in the extreme. Not only is the the very term, infinitely fast nonsensical, all you need to do is look at the night sky and ask, "If light traveled infinitely fast, then why am I not burned to a crisp from all the light arriving at me in zero time, and how silly is that anyway, and also why can I see the stars at all?". Everything that ever happened, and ever will happen would have already happened in literally no time. In this thought experiment, where light is allowed to travel at any speed, including infinite speed, there is no time, there are no events, there is no matter, there is nothing. So light MUST have a speed limit.

If it has no rest-mass, It cannot rest!

Since a photon has no rest mass it can ONLY go at c (the speed of light), no faster, no slower. It cannot accelerate or decelerate. It can only be absorbed, or emitted upon interaction with an obstacle. I say this while also mindful of Feynman's highly successful theories about virtual particles, and what I am referring to is the average result of the speeds and trajectories of these virtual particles. I also say this knowing that a light-beam can be slowed down in a special gas at low temperatures to become stationary. However, this is an aggregate phenomenon where the light beam is contained in a small area. All the individual photons are still moving at c.

Remember: When energy is added to an object, that object has more relativistic mass.

To move an object, you must add energy to it. Even at low speeds, to accelerate an object, you must add more energy this moment than was added the previous moment.

Force = Mass X Acceleration

Velocity is meters per second.

Acceleration is the rate of change of velocity, and is therefore in units of (meters per second) per second.

But as an object approaches relativistic speeds compared to an observer in an inertial frame, it gains significantly more energy, and this compounds the problem of accelerating it further.  It's a problem which gets out of hand the faster you go, with the ultimate conclusion that an infinite energy would be required to accelerate a mass to c. Since infinite energy is not available, nothing with non-zero rest-mass can travel as fast as light.

An object is either massless and is emitted at the speed of light, or it has some rest mass and cannot reach or exceed the speed of light.

Wacky hypothetical particles that can't slow down.

A Tachyon is a hypothetical particle with "imaginary" mass suffering the same kind of problem. It cannot be decelerated to the speed of light. These things appear in some serious theoretical frameworks - like the limited and outdated but interesting bosonic string theory which is a 26-dimensional theoretic playground. But because they cannot cross that same light speed barrier, we could not access even a localised Tachyon particle to transmit a signal faster than light. In any case, in the theories in which they present, they are highly unstable, and tend to ring alarm bells for the theory in play.

So all those Sci-Fi movies that use "Tachyon beams" to communicate across vast spaces are really pushing the envelope as it were.

Gumby space

Bending space is fundamental to General Relativity (GR), and theoretically might be exploited to join two distant parts of the universe by folding space and punching a hole into it. But the amount of energy postulated to do such a thing is mind-blowing. Whether humans could ever do such a thing is very speculative. But even if this were possible, and we could join two distant regions of space though a wormhole or whatever you like to call it, we would not be required to exceed the speed of light to move through it.

Olbers' paradox

We said earlier, that the dark night sky is a good reason to conclude that light has a speed limit. But it does not explain why the universe is gradually heating up to extreme limits, and therefore glowing at night as bright as our sun in the daytime. You see, since we strongly feel that there are either infinite stars out there, or certainly a mind-numbing large amount, and they are very very old. Anywhere you look in the night sky should coincide with billions of stars, and be very bright. "Space itself is expanding" and "Light takes significant time to get to us from the distance of the stars". This explains why most of the night sky is very dim despite the enormous number of stars beyond what we can see. Importantly, this also demands that the universe is not infinitely old. If it were, then even though light has a speed limit, there would be enough time for the night sky to glow brightly through the accumulation of photons from countless stars even though they are very far away.

Is it possible to separate objects faster than c?

Yes!

Since space itself is expanding, two objects moving in opposite directions at near the speed of light could be separating faster than light could be sent between them. Faster than light signaling is not possible even in this mind-boggling scenario.

In fact, the traditional big-bang theory suffers some issues with observations of deep space. The cosmic background radiation is so incredibly uniform, that we theorize that the very first instant of the big-bang was followed by an incredible expansion rate.

Using the traditional theory of the big-bang, energy and information would have to be transported at about 100 times the speed of light in order to achieve uniformity, 300,000 years after the big bang. We actually observe the expansion of space still today, albeit at a much slower pace, but we never observe faster than light signaling. The cosmic background radiation does have some incredibly tiny fluctuations. If, instead of surmising that light traveled 100 times faster an instant after the big-bang, we modify the big bang theory to include a tremendous but brief inflation period, the level of uniformity is nicely explained, and the tiny fluctuations are explained.

Yet again, this is evidence that light has a speed limit.

Imagine two dots on a balloon. An ant tries to run from one to another as fast as it can. But someone blows up the balloon so fast that the dots move apart faster than the ant can run. If the ant's top-speed on the balloon was analogous to light-speed in our universe, then these dots move faster than ant speed, and we can see how expanding space can separate objects faster than the speed of light.

Now imagine a small balloon with a fluid surface, and suspended in the surface is a powder. It might be unevenly distributed, or concentrated on one spot - it does not matter much as the starting conditions are not particularly chosen. Given enough time, the powder might become uniformly distributed around the whole balloon, but this might take weeks or months, or not happen at all. Now imagine the experience of one ant at some point in the unevenly distributed powder. Someone comes along and blows the balloon up to the size of a large ocean liner so fast that it suddenly appears almost as a flat surface to the ant. All the powder in that particular area would, by virtue of the rapid expansion of that local area appear to the ant to be almost perfectly evenly distributed. This is a rough analogy to the observed distribution of cosmic background radiation today. The ant, like us, sees a world which appears special even though the starting conditions were not particularly conditioned.

Are you convinced?

Do you think that some day we will break the light barrier?

  • Yes - Of course. We don't know everything.
  • No - This is pretty much home and hosed.
  • Not for an object, but maybe we will find a way to send a signal faster than light.
  • Sure- If Star-Trek can do it, we can too. After all, they invented the mobile phone!
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quicksand  says:
4 months ago

Took the quiz got two wrong!

Hi Manna,

A photon maintains a constant velocity as it has zero mass. It is the mass that qualifies a particle to accelerate in the absence of resistance. Right? :)

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Manna in the wild  says:
4 months ago

Hi quicksand. Well done on the quiz! I have read your question several times, but do not understand where you are coming from. One of the objections to using the unit "mass" in relativistic calculations is that it either has to be taken in context to be an effect of relativity or that which is an intrinsic property of the object, or both and this is confusing. I tried to clear this up in the article. For this reason, you can, if desired, work with relativistic momentum. In Einstein's words: ""It is not good to introduce the concept of the mass of a moving body for which no clear definition can be given. It is better to introduce no other mass concept than the 'rest mass' m. Instead of introducing M it is better to mention the expression for the momentum and energy of a body in motion."

Having the intrinsic property of "rest-mass" makes it impossible to accelerate to c. The fact that a photon has no mass (at least we think it's a fact) means that the photon can only exist at c, and it is not possible to decelerate a massless particle. When a photon (which is a packet of energy) strikes an atom, that atom can absorb the photon. The atom will be upset by this change in energy and change it's configuration in a quantum change. That change in some cases will re-emit a new photon. In some chemistries, the incoming absorption could knock out an electron, and emit a photon at a different energy, but whatever happens, energy must be conserved which means that it cannot be created or destroyed.

You can find the relativistic momentum equation here : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ

If you try to re-phrase your question with this in mind I will do my best to answer.

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quicksand  says:
4 months ago

Hi Manna, The point I was trying to make is that acceleration is possible only if mass exists. Thus the photon having zero mass cannot accelerate. Therefore v=c or v=0 :)

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Manna in the wild  says:
4 months ago

Hi Quicksand. I agree. Intrinsic mass is a resistance to acceleration when a force is applied to it. If you like, you can imagine a tiny force applied to a tiny mass which would make it accelerate. If you halve the mass and the force and repeat the experiment, it would still have to accelerate. In the limit, the massless entity must move at maximum speed even when no force is applied.

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jaildaar  says:
3 months ago

Hi manna it seems you are quite energetic to write such a long post. I haven’t read it full but I definitely will as I get more time, but I want to ask something you said if you heat a stone it would weigh higher that is to say the rest mass of an object changes by giving energy ok. Now you know an electron is accelerated in an orbit and hence is a constant source of electromagnetic waves emitting out from it. Now here I want to ask why is the rest mass of electron not decreasing if it is emitting EM waves , that is why all electrons have same rest mass?

and I would like you to give views about other physics topics that I have written.

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Manna in the wild  says:
3 months ago

Hello jaildaar. Rest-mass is an intrinsic property of the stone and heating it will not increase the rest mass. However, since energy in Joules is converted to Kg when you multiply by a conversion factor of c-squared, then adding energy heats it up, and that increases the total Kg of the system. It is true there will be some radiation, but if the radiation was greater than the energy input, then the system would cool, not heat up. Of course, you could postulate that the stone is damp and porous and heating it will boil the water from it. This would release many times more mass than gained from energy added to it by heating it up. The effect that I describe with the stone is a theoretical tool. It would be difficult to actually measure.

An orbiting electron is fixed at a certain energy and does not constantly emit electromagnetic waves, it does not do "work" as it is in a constant energy state, and if it did lose energy, then it would fall into the nucleus and that does not happen. In order to emit electromagnetic waves, it needs to fall instantaneously to a lower energy band and this emits the energy, in the form of a photon. The photon is "born" traveling at c. It can only fall to a lower energy state if there is "room" energy-wise to accommodate it. Electrons are fermions, and as such cannot occupy the same quantum-state as another.

The following link will back this up: http://www.mikeblaber.org/oldwine/chm1045/notes/St

It is one of the most concise and clear mathematical explanations I've seen.

All electrons are identical fundamental particles - that's why they have identical rest mass of 9.11 × 10?31 Kg- as does it's anti-particle, the positron.

A good way to view rest-mass is, "That property that makes the object resist acceleration".

I'd love to see what else you have written and will take a peek.

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jaildaar  says:
3 months ago

I completely agree to you , but I think I my question was not properly framed so you didn’t get it

What I meant was as you know acceleration is change in velocity divided by time taken. so keeping this in mind we can say that an electron is accelerated even if it moves in a circular motion ( although this concept is abandoned if quantum mechanics).

-And we know a change in Electric field produces a magnetic field and vice a versa.

-and an electron at rest emits electric field which is disturbed when it is accelerated, that is to say the change in electric field will definitely produce a magnetic field which will produce electric field and what we get is an Electromagnetic wave. Is it ok?

Now since the electron is responsible for production of this EM wave so there must be a loss in energy of the electron so where the energy came from ?

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Manna in the wild  says:
3 months ago

Hi - There are two issues I think. One is that the ballistic interpretation of electron motion about an atom is wrong enough to cause confusion. The other is that even in the simple Bohr model, the orbiting electron is at a fixed energy and a classical interpretation leads to problems as you suggest. You seem happy that QM abandons the orbiting model, and there is good reason for that. The Bohr model is incomplete. It's good enough for some useful calculations, but nevertheless not good enough to get a good grasp of what is going on or to explain things like quantum tunneling. The electron can be a bit like a little bullet but it is a wave, Or rather it was shown to be a wave, but it does bullet-like things too. This wave-particle duality is completely inconsistent with classical mechanics. The "orbiting" electron is, in QM replaced by a sort of 'probability cloud' as it never really has a definite place to call home.

There is a non-zero (but small) probability that an electron found normally mostly probably at some distance from the nucleus will be found inside the nucleus and captured in an atomic reaction. This can turn a proton into a neutron!

The other is that an electron (or it's charge in fact) at rest would not emit an EM field. It would be nice if it did because that would supply free energy. :-)

Your last paragraph exposes this flaw anyway.

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jaildaar  says:
3 months ago

I think this does not answer my question, i would appreciate if you would be a little precise and answer to the line of question. and I really don't know the answer thats why I am asking. but the rest you've told in your post I know a good deal of it.

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Manna in the wild  says:
3 months ago

OK - I am trying. :-) Perhaps I am having difficulty identifying the exact question. Perhaps line - by line might help...

"What I meant was as you know acceleration is change in velocity divided by time taken."

OK

"so keeping this in mind we can say that an electron is accelerated even if it moves in a circular motion"

I have a little problem with this for a QM description. It's a classical view which describes centripetal force.

" ( although this concept is abandoned if quantum mechanics)."

OK great.

"-And we know a change in Electric field produces a magnetic field and vice a versa."

I was not comfortable with this statement at first, I see what you are saying though: A charge at-rest has an electric field only. If moved, it produces a magnetic field too. Whether an observer experiences just the electric field or both depends upon their frame of reference. If you control and vary a magnetic field, then it will move a charge in it's presence, and conversely, a charge that is moved produces a magnetic field. Energy is not necessarily exchanged in this relationship.

"-and an electron at rest emits electric field which is disturbed when it is accelerated, that is to say the change in electric field will definitely produce a magnetic field which will produce electric field and what we get is an Electromagnetic wave. Is it ok?"

OK.

"Now since the electron is responsible for production of this EM wave so there must be a loss in energy of the electron so where the energy came from ?"

oooh, Unless you extract energy from the system, no work is done. In the case of an electron which is bound to an atom, it has a fixed, quantized energy which can only be changed if "work" is done - either by absorbing or emitting a photon. The electron is then bound to the atom at a different (quantized) energy level. The electron will try to fill the lowest energy slot available of course, but if all lower energy slots are taken, then it has to fill the next one higher. Electrons are fermions with fractional spin 1/2 as opposed to a photon being a boson (integer spin 1). Bosons can share states, while fermions are subject to the Pauli-exclusion principle.

If that helps - pls let me know. If not I might consult some others to see what I am missing. Oh - keep up the good work too - I read another of your hubs.

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jaildaar  says:
3 months ago

I think there is some concept missing in both of so i will consult somebody and clarify my doubt.

now see this you know that an electron at rest or in an inertial frame of reference have an electric field assosiated with it, now my point is electron must be getting something out of itself to produce it coz now the space-time surrounded by electron has the ability to do work. My question which variable is changing in the elecrton coz it is producing a change in the space-time surrounding it.

I dont know if you know but the cost which a celestrial object has to pay to produce gravitational field is mass.yes mass of heavenly bodies change with time, but the change is so small for Small masses that we have to take observations for heave masses such as a pair of huge blackholes rotating about themselves.

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Manna in the wild  says:
3 months ago

Ok - let me know what you find out. I can't see how the electron can get something out of itself. Its charge and mass are constants.

chad  says:
3 months ago

The quiz question that says "all of the above" for an answer is in error. You might say that evidence of light having a speed limit is that the sky appears dark to us from earth. However, the question implies that the appearance of the sky CAUSES ("...because...") light to have a speed limit.

thank you--that's 11 out of 11 for me now! :)

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Manna in the wild  says:
3 months ago

Thank you Chad. I will take a look at the wording.

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