What's a Conservative and What's a Liberal?
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Introduction
I used to carpool with an old, blind professor to the small college I attended and he use to tell me, praphrasing Gore Vidal, that politics came from two words: poli, meaning many, and tics, meaning blood sucking vermin. Unfortunately his somewhat suspect etymology, while proving technically untenable, has turned out to be largely correct in principle.
In American politics, where power has become everything, ideology has become a bastard step-child. American politicians think more about how they can fool the masses or get around popular democracy to further their ends than they do about what they truly believe in, if they actually believe in anything?
Of course, it is not my intent to sweep every single politician under the bus with a broad brush, so for this hub it must be understood that I am speaking in general terms.
Two Major Ideologies: Liberal and Conservative
There are two major ideologies in American politics. Understanding these helps us understand each other politically and enables us to make sense of what at times seems senseless. These ideologies are labeled conservative and liberal. Although these terms have changed definitions over the years, I will use them as they are currently defined.
If you took a strip of paper that was blue on one end and gradually changed colors until it was red at the other end you would end up with a spectrum of colors. At some point toward the center of the strip you could get into a few arguments as to whether the color was red, purple, or blue. It is that way with the liberal and conservative ideologies, so I will be concentrating on the ends of the strip, so to speak, and not the middle.
Conservative Vs. Liberal
At the core of it, Conservatives base there ideology on what they see as reason and logic and it is individualistic by nature, whereas a liberal's ideology is based on emotion and ideals and is collective by nature. A liberal is interested in curing society's ills by social engineering. A conservative is interested in curing society's ills by individuals exercising their own choices to better themselves. Because of this, conservatives view centralized power with deep suspicion. Liberals on the other hand see centralized power as an opportunity to affect great change for good.
The Role of Government
Because of the fundamental differences in the way conservatives and liberals approach the solutions to society's challenges, it should come as no surprise that they have radically different views on the role of government.
The Liberal View
A liberal wants the government deeply involved in our lives. It is often seen as a parent to us all—or the big tent. They believe that the government can force society to confront its ills and legislate and enforce the cures. A liberal point of view diminishes the individual's responsibility and believes people are victims or victimizers. This point of view does not see individuals as having power to rise above their circumstances in large numbers and therefore a savior must be found to "level the playing field."
They point to the example of the civil rights movement of the 1960's. With out government intervention, they argue, the rights of minorities would never have been acknowledged nor would there be equal rights for all. In fact the civil rights movement is the basis of the modern liberal's political ideology, and proof that it is essentially correct.
This conviction motivates them to use all means available to impose their vision of goodness on the masses. If they can't get the populous to support their agenda then they will get the courts to legislate it. This is because they firmly believe that their agenda is for the greater good of society.
Liberalism is naturally sympathetic with socialism and suspicious of individualism and even though it shares the same long-term goals as conservatism it's approach, as you can see, is radically different.
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The Conservative View
Even though the conservatives share with liberals the desire for a better society, they differ sharply in what role the government should play. In a nut shell, conservatives view the role of government as "the less the better." Since they see the combined strength and sufficiency of the individual as the only honest cure for society they believe that the role of government should be restricted to functions that support and protect individual liberty. They are very suspicious of government interference in individual rights, and they do not see differences in socioeconomic groups as a bad thing since, in their view, it is every individual's right to change those circumstances by choice and action.
They view the government's attempts at redistribution of wealth through its tax codes, its interference in commerce by regulations, and its welfare entitlements as enabling individuals to shirk responsibility for their own lives and rely on the government to take care of them. They reason that the more the government takes responsibility for his or her well being away from the individual, the weaker and more dependent society will become.
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Who's right?
At this point in American politics the two ideologies have taken a back seat to power, but if they were brought to bear on our government which would be the best: Socialist Democracy, or an independent go-it-alone capitalist democracy? I would submit to you that the extremes of both ideologies are dangerous and would deepen problems in American society and that one, tempered with the other, might be the best ideology of all.
For example: if we have a struggling class in America, we could provided training opportunities for people who wanted to succeed and would put forth efforts on their own behalf instead of entitlement programs that accomplish nothing and consume copious amounts of money? Along with such programs would also come the responsibility for the recipients to put forth efforts on behalf of their own welfare.
We need to have a heart that includes tough love and foresight, one that looks at America's opportunities and does not retreat into a defensive posture from the world around it. One that can realize the true nature of the threats against America and America's way of life. Not a vision that feels good at the thought of America sinking down to the level of the third world, but instead one that forges on a head and shows the way for the third world to follow.
America must continue to provide unparalleled opportunities, but not bend to whiners and self proclaimed victims who want to short-cut the system and reap benefits they never earned. We must in sympathy try to teach fishing, quit giving fish and realize that poverty is not always the rich or the government's fault. But we must not march on, leaving people behind who, with a little instruction and help, can become productive and successful. In doing this we must also have the heart firm enough to leave those behind who refuse all help and demand instead to be fed from the public coffer's without a contribution of their own.
We must leave classism, racism, and bigotry behind, regardless if it is the old-school-hard-hearted variety wacky right, or the soft feel-good, guilt-washing, variety of the wacky left. No class of Americans should be punished or be held back based on the color of their skin in order to "even the score." We need to let go of power and take hold of responsibility; quit giving the media oracle status, and get the job done.
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Comments
Fine reading. I agree that there needs to be a balance, but I guess I lean more toward the right. There is nothing so uplifting as knowing you've accomplished something on your own, by your own steam. It gives a person a tremendous boost in confidence knowing that they can take care of them self, which then engenders the desire to keep on doing so.
I have worked with the homeless. I saw first-hand what kind of people are homeless and I can loosely put them into three broad catagories-
1- the guy that lost his job and will do anything to work his way back up. This guy only takes a handout because he has no choice. He can't get work and hold a job if he has no place to sleep - but he resents the hell out of the fact that he has to do so at all and works like the dickens to "pay his own way".
2- the guy who is emotionally shattered. Society, events, PTSD, whatever, has broken this guy and no matter how hard he tries he can't seem to make a go of it. This guy needs our compassion and aid the most and, he deserves it. A civilized society does not throw it's weakest members onto the trash heap.
3- abusers of the system. They can get a handout and they'll take that handout for as long as they can get it. Work? Are you kidding? Why work when they can get all this stuff for free?
I do not address here why people have become homeless. There are as many reasons as there are homeless. But I would say that group #2 is the biggest group. And so yes, I believe that they should be helped but not necessarily by the government. These people were MOSTLY helped by religious groups in the area that believed in helping their fellow man.
So to get back to the main point, no, I do not believe that the government should be in the business of social programs. I have found, from my own experience, that more people are helped and treated with compassion when helped by private organizations and individuals. When the government did get involved, it was callous, faceless and brazenly self-serving - as in "the more homeless we can "claim" we've "helped" the bigger our subsidy will be!"
Very well-written article! It clearly outlines the ideologies, and I have to say that you are quite right, although I also have to say that I would side on the "wacky" right. Madame X is right in the fact that the religious groups have the responsibility for the homeless, not the government.
Nice descriptions of the polar opposites. I agree that most politicians are true to no ideal these days, beyond grabbing and hanging onto power, or what passes for power, since the real power is in global corporatism, not government.
Good Hub and more factually correct than incorrect. The only thing I see that I would disagree with is your wording of "Capitalist democracy" The US is a Representative Republic not democracy. If I missed the point please correct me. I enjoyed the article.
You are correct. I used the term incorrectly because it is what most people understand. Like the term liberal and conservative. They are not used correctly by the media, so if I use it as they do it keeps people from being confused. Today's liberals are really institutional conservatives.
Thanks for your comments.
CW
Great Hub - perfect for anyone wondering what the differences are between conservatives and liberals.
Thanks Unfortunately there are more people in America today who do not want to know the difference but should.
Ironic that in the late 1800's the above defined roles of the parties were reversed. (I know, that's neither here nor there.)
I would submit another class, of which I was a member (to my shame) when I was younger, and which is a majority. I just didn't care as long as they left me the hell alone. I didn't understand the differences between liberals and conservatives, didn't care, and thought that my one little voice didn't amount to much.
I agree with your statement that modern politicians are only after the power. The only politicians I've met who actually do give a damn about the people they want to represent are out of a job. Ironically, We the People allowed this to come about. The very system only encourages those of less than noble ideas to run for office.
Think about it this way. It takes several million dollars to get elected to any federal office. To get that money, a politician has to fundraiser. The people who have the money to give also want assurances that the person taking the money will take their view. So, said politician has to make promises.
Even if the politician doesn't compromise, he'she will quickly find out that in order to keep their elected seat, they have to start fund-raising for the next election cycle immediately. This process tends to corrupt even the most moral and trustworthy of politicians. (Unless your family made huge fortunes running alcohol during prohibition, had one member assasinated, and yet another kill a woman by driving off a bridge. Then you become canonized.)
You are correct. It all comes back to we the people. And it is only us who can save us. As for the I-Don't-Care group they do not vote anyway. Right now clowns run the show in DC along with the News Media because we are to inept to think for ourselves. Liberalism thrives on ignorance and poverty and has a vested interest in keeping both alive and well.
If either you or I were a CEO of a company and we ran it like our government runs this country we'd be thrown in jail. Right now our current government is interested in making this nation a two class nation: The ruling class and the dependent class.
God help us do the right thing.
Think back to the GOALS 2000 Act, sponsored by Hillary Clinton for the most part. It took a page right out socialist/totalitarian papers - complete government take-over of the schools. The No Child Left Behind Act only enforces it.
I've read the constitution more times that I care to admit. Nowhere in Article 1 section 8 is there an enumerated power which gives the government control of schools or curriculum. Someone could argue the "necessary and proper" clause, but they obviously have never read the rest of that line. "To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof." What this means is that they can only make laws which are necessary and proper in executing the 17 enumerated powers given to the congress by the constitution. The ninth and tenth amendments grant ALL other powers to the people and the states.
I wish other people would at least read the document.
I think you have it correct. An uneducated populace makes for a poor government of we the people.
Very nicely done. I think you have identified correctly what most understand as the polar opposites of the political ideologies of today. The parties are no longer relevant it is only the underlying claim to right and political correctness.
As neither a liberal nor a conservative but rather a social progressive and a Constitutional purist with a strong leaning toward smaller government; I can only say that we have, that is we the people, have failed in our duty. We have allowed our government to grow out of control. We have sold our greatness to the lowest bidder in favor of deregulation, Wall Street, and CEO bonus's.
Ah well, maybe there will be a time soon I hope, that we the people well stand up and truly hold the government and our elected officials accountable. When we stop and consider the slogans we shout and the demands we make. When we vote for the candidate with ethics, standards, and ideas rather than name recognition. Maybe it will happen before it is too late.
I could not agree more. If we as Americans have differences let them be honestly and openly discussed and not traded in the back rooms of political parties bent on spinning them for their own power profits.
It is even our own greed that drove wall street. We shouldn't look to our government to regulate wall street, we should look to ourselves!
(Tongue in cheek) But you don't understand, Mr. Walker... trying to understand or be involved in politics isn't any FUN!! I don't care that I have a civic responsibility because it belongs to me and was handed down my ancestors. Hell, the last thing I want to do is get stuck on a jury, that's why I didn't register to vote. Besides, I don't like any of the candidates I have to choose from, and my vote doesn't REALLY count anyway cuz of the Electoral College and look at the fiasco that was made of the election in 2000.
Besides, they hold all this political crap when I'm either busy hangin' with my homeboys or watchin' Survivor on tv. I aint got time to be bothered by all that nonsense 'bout Socialism, Communism, Fascism or religion, aint none of that gonna pass anyway, this is America, fool. The Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free, you know, red, white, and blue, mom, baseball and apple pie.
Seriously, the lesson for today is that while Greatness may be achieved through great acts, Greatness is maintained by by simple acts.
America is THE world leader. The rest of the world looks to us for direction. They come to America for opportunity. They come to America for a better life. They come to America for education or for medical procedures.
America is great because Americans get involved. How much greater would America be if ALL Americans got involved?
Good Hub well written with both description being really very acturate. Iknow about the extremes I was at one time a stright ticket hard line Republican. Ronald Regan was a friend, a mentor and then my dream president. After Ronald Regan left office and was ill, the party became ill too. The neo-conservatives became very close to neo nazi's. They lost me The far right scared the hell out of me.
The far left scares me for the same reason. I'm a middle of the road kind of guy now and take my half out of the center.
Gryffon, you message is right on point. There is one amendment I would add to it though: Don't vote if you have not educated yourself to the issues and candidates. Don't vote because someone from the DNC or RNC has picked you up in a van and promised you smokes.
Excellent article thanks Christian. I agree that the dangers to our democratic societies (I live in Australia) exist at both extremes of the political spectrum. Thanks for succinctly summarising the agenda.
Like the comment btw: "Don't vote because someone from the DNC or RNC has picked you up in a van and promised you smokes."


















Peter Keay says:
16 months ago
Good hub. Your last sentence is an excellent summary and closing. Unfortunately most people have a partisanship that completely outweighs any actual clear thinking. I hope other readers will be willing to put their ideological loyalties on hold as they give your article true consideration rather than just finding ways to nit-pick at it.