For the neat freak - how to live with a chronic clutterer
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At first glance, a neat freak living with a chronic clutterer may seem humorous. For some, living with someone who can't seem to keep themselves organized may seem like an impossible thing to do. And for others it may seem like the only way to tackle this issue is to organize the clutterer.
I'm here to tell you, no matter what view you may hold on this issue, that both partners CAN live simultaniously, side by side, with ease and prosperity, and WITHOUT having to change a thing about themselves, or the one they live with. I am living proof.
No one's the same
Just as no one has the same opinions, nor do they hold the exact same order of importance when it comes to the to do's in life.
This was a difficult lesson for me to learn. It took a lot of soul searching to keep calm about the situation.
You may have guessed by now... I am the neat freak. I admit that. And for the special love of my life who does not hold this "ability" of mine in as high regards as I did, it was, I'm sure, not easy to always live with me.
You see, while keeping your surroundings perfect is a seemingly coveted situation to be in, the process of getting and staying there, while seemingly a flawless personality trait, can truly be a pain for the one who is a bit more "care free" with their time and space. A difficult thing to accept, but it is a truth we neat freaks must realize.
THE SIGNS WERE ALWAYS THERE
Chances are, the signs were always there. If you'd been dating long enough, you would have noticed the clutter, the lack of putting away, the putting away haphazardly, or the not putting away at all; after a while at least. The excuse you recieved, if you'd asked, may have been, "I'd rather spend more time with you." You would have been flattered and figured one day, when you lived together, or married, your partner would do the right thing.
Unfortunately, that may not be the case. You may end up head-butting more than you wanted to realize. Forever is a long time. A year is a long time. A month is a long time.
Chicken Soup - it does a body good.
HEAD-BUTTING
There are many different tactics that are tried by the neat one in the family. Allowing more closet space, for example. Placing a catch-all by the door is another possibility. Perhaps even buying more drawers, giving up space to the other person, tidying up for them, buying organizers, etc. are other possibilities. Some "neat" people tend to get very clever in their attempts to subdue the clutter made by the slob.
But truth be told, there's only so much trying one can do before one succombs to nagging, anger, feelings of being taken advantage of, and a list of other thoughts and emotions come into fruition.
Worst of all despite attempts on both sides, the fact remains that there are some things that can only get worse by trying to work them out in a one sided way. You see, chances are, while the slob loves the clean and neat, he or she also does not mind the mess (untill it gets to be too much for them, which happens, though never soon enough for the organized one).
Several things may happen at this point. A breakup is entirely possible (they've happened for much less serious reasons). Depression can certainly come out of it (sounds as drastic as a breakup, but regardless of its severity, it is still a possible outcome). And then there is the possiblitly that the neat freak will become uncaring of their surroundings, chosing the easy way out by going out; or the neat freak will become obsessed with cleaning and organization, possibly going so far as tossing out anything that isn't put away where it ought to be.
At some point, something needs to be done. Not passively, not aggressively. There is no point for something like this to take over a couple's lives and cause a rift in love and communication. There is no point or resolve in the chronic clutterer demanding the neat freak to stop being so neat, or even to find reasons why the neat person should be responsible for cleaning up everything; just as there is no resolve in the tidy one expecting the same neat behavior out of the other at all costs.
THE FINAL RESOLVE
The final resolve is actually a simpler thing to come by that one may think. Though it certainly may take some creativity, it is possible, and it is beautiful.
My solution for the person who enjoys the outcome of their organizational skills:
Take back your space -
- Use all the space you need (without overdoing it) for your items.
- Make your side of the closet perfect for you. Place a barrier between your side and "their" side. Let their side look as messy and overwhelming as they like. Your side should be in front or the first excessible spot, or you may never know what your side looks like.
- Make sure that "their side" of any room is NOT near a closet or entryway or you may never get in or out again.Your side of the bed should be on the "visible" side of the room, so that each time you go in there you feel at peace. Decorate your side as simply and comforting as you like.
- If their stuff gets in your space, one simple toss will free your space up nicely. They've tossed in the first place (doubtful the item in your section has been folded and neatly placed in your section, so an extra toss is not going to hurt).
Take back your time -
- Witih all the extra time you have on your hands, now that you are no longer worrying or fussing, you'll find that you are much happier.
- Do your own laundry first. There's no point in sifting through items trying to figure out if they are clean or dirty. If they'd like to, they can put their laundry in a laundry basket so you can take it down when it's full. All overflowing items can be tossed back into one of their piles for another time.
- Iron your own stuff. Unless they do a decent job at keeping their clothing items hung, why should it be the tidy one's job to crease out the wrinkles. There's really no more to be said here except, enjoy your extra time.
- As much as organized people thrill at being able to find stuff, rather than finding stuff for the disorganized one, point them in the direction of one of their various piles or sections, while you read a book or do something else you enjoy doing (because this is no longer your problem).
HAPPILY EVER AFTER?
Yes!
As a neat freak, you can be as freakishly neat as you like with your own things, without getting in your partners way.
You'll live side by side, the neat without feeling as though you are taken advantage of, and your mate without feeling as though their beautiful self is being overlooked because of one small flaw.
Smiles will reappear where once there were scowls.
And that heavy feelings of keeping it all in and trying to accept the other's odd ways will disappear, because you'll each have personalized spaces, and more time to spend with eachother, in harmony.
MORE IN THE SERIES
- Finding peace in media related areas - for the neat freak living with the chronic clutterer
Finding peace in media related communal areas for the neat freak in you and your chronic clutterer. "But what do you do about the communal areas, my favorite is CD's not put back in their boxes..."
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Great job Frieda, on touching on the psychology of being a reserved but not overbearing Neat Freak! I see that you have a first-person perspective on this topic!
I can turn a blind eye for a while, I can even be messy for a while but eventually I know what is going to happen, it becomes unbearable and I have to clear the decks, tidy up and get my neat freak fix, then I am OK again for a while.
But what do you do about the communal areas, my favorite is CD's not put back in their boxes, can you imagine all those CD's out of their boxes, scraping together in a big pile, getting scratched and never playing properly again.
Don't tell me you can ignore that one!!!!!
Wow! Your living room looks like it could be an ad in Pottery Barn!! Love this!!
Neat freak? unfortunately I am all the opposite, sometimes I think that it would be nice to have a "neat-freak" partner, at least that way one of us would take control and keep the place tidy.
I am the cluttery one, too. We have been married long enough to solve our issue with separate spaces, which means I shut the door on my clutter and keep our joint spaces neat. What drives me nuts are the pet smells. It's that mother's nose... I guess we all have our issues, lol. Thanks for an enlightened Hub!
I am a reformed neat freak. Not that me or my wife are messy people but I have relaxed my standards since the start of our relationship many many years ago. As the neat freak I was always stressed and I know that my obsessive cleaning was stressful to my wife. We live in harmony now and I have to admit that I enjoy being calmer about those issues. When you look at all the stuff you can fret about it is low on the list. Now our kids take messy/clutter to a whole new lever but I'll wait to comment when you write a hub about that.
Frieda,
As one neat freak to another, I think your solutions are brilliant. Glad to know they're workable. Just imagine owning a bed and breakfast, like I do, and having to clean up a clutterer's guestroom; one who's staying for a few days especially. I find myself wanting to tidy up their personal stuff which is thrown all over the room, when all I should be doing is emptying the trash, making the bed, and changing the glasses and towels.
I love this hub. It is so well written and organized, just the way a neat freak would do it. The St Bernard and the chick pic is priceless!!
Frieda,
This was an enjoyable read. I will keep this in mind whenever I decide to share my 'organized' abode. I will bookmark this one. Thanks Freida.
I enjoyed the wisdom that came through your article. My s/o and I get along beautifully because neither one of us tries to change the other, this is the number one problem in many relationships, trying to mold a partner to meet our ideal. We have a lot in common but also have our differences. He couldn't care less if the labels of the cans of food are facing in one direction, or upside down, so when we get home after food shopping, I handle that part of putting the food away. As for closet space, I have my own closet and he uses the one in his office, his closet is messy and he leaves the closet door open, so I gently close it, so my eyes do not have to see the mess. LOL! Love the photo of the elderly couple!
Good Hub! Alas, I divorced the clutter freak and it is sheer bliss to have married a neat freak!
@ tom, ah, yes, the sacrifices. It's neverending, isn't it?
@ dohn121 thank you, and yes, I certainly do. It's taken a while, but I'm glad I finally figured it out.
@ Brian, You inspired me! I wrote a hub about just that. Check it out and tell me what you think. =)
@ Candie, it's awesome, isn't it? Unfortunately, it's not mine, it IS Potterybarn lol. Dangit all.
@ Princessa, think of it this way, at least your on the same level, which is a very good thing. :)
@ storytellersrus, yes we all do have our issues, don't we? Some of us (me) had a hard time realizing that lol. Yes, that mother's nose is enough to drive anyone crazy. How do we get on sometimes, I just don't know.
Hey there Bill, yes, I've become much more lax these last couple of years. I think it's the kids getting older and the lessons I learned (like the ones in this hub). Definite idea for a hub. I'm getting to work on that one. It'll fit in perfectly, then you can comment away. (Mine are still young and I can see I'm going to need teenage tips here very very soon! lol
LOL, Frieda!! You do make me laugh!! I only know of your love of Potter Barn from your excellent baby bed hub.
@ Alekhouse, LEAVE THE STUFF ALONE! LOL. I wouldn't know what to do with myself either. I feel for you greatly. You just have to wonder, sometimes, don't you? I do love that St. Bernard and chicky photo too. I couldn't resist. I'm glad you enjoyed the read. Thanks!
@ Aidy, Hi! With any luck, you'll find yourself a neat and tidy person. That would be a swipe of the brow right there!
@VioletSun Perfect. It's so much better that way. That's wonderful to hear. Nagging never gets you anywhere anyway. Isn't that a fantastic photo. What a find! First page I checked too. Just gorgeous, I'm glad you like it.
@Veach Homestead, Thanks so much for stopping in for a read. You know, it sometimes has to happen that way. It's one thing when it's just the clutter, and another when it's more than that. I'm sooo glad things turned out for the best. Thank goodness they're a neat freak too!
@ Candie V - Oh duh! I should have known you were joking. I would have loved to pretend and play along, but alas... =D
I would have been here sooner to comment, but my laptop was under a different pile than the one I thought it was under.
@ Paper ROFL!
Frieda
I'm a little bit of both (okay more of a clutterer most times) as there are days when I want things organized and I clean up to the point of obesessing - y'know like putting posts its with numbers and there are days when I just dont give a sh*t at all. Oh well...
@ AIDY- Shhh, Frieda is not amused…….
I am a collector of things that I think might one day be useful, but usually that day never comes. I am a stacker who stacks papers, bills and so on in corners. Does that make me a clutterer, if the random things are neatly stacked everywhere?
Cindy, I'm going to say no, you are not a clutterer. I do the same thing. And as long as everything is neat and tidy, I say you're fine! If they weren't organized, or if they were strewn about, then, I'd call you a clutterer. In the mean time, I wouldn't worry. You're aokay in my book and I'd share my space with you any day.=D
Chris, it sounds like you've got a nice balance going there then. I would would say you're neither a neat freak or a chronic clutterer. Now, if I could get that way, all the better for me. I'm trying. I really am.
No, paper, I'm not amused at all. lol
It is really tough to be someone who likes their organization and get married to someone who seems all scattered out. But like with anything you can learn to adapt to the new environment if you just try.
I agree with sensible approach completely. Although she's not messy now, my sister was horrendously "care-free" when we were young and sharing a room. She's five years older than I, and the only fight we ever had in our lives was a big "war" that occurred when I finally got fed up with her stuff ending up in my space. It was like her mess was "THE Blob", getting bigger and bigger and taking over every last inch of space it would. :)
I was about 12 when I angrily did just as you suggest. I divided up every last inch of space into "your side" and "my side". If I found one thing on my bed I'd put it on her bed. It worked for the remainder of time we shared a room. (Today we laugh at the fight and the way the room was "half horrible" and "half all nice". :) (Sure, the bureau, in particular, looked bizarre; with half of it having scarves and wig heads piled up into two-foot-high piles, and the other half looking spotless and neat. Still, just having "my space" be as I wanted/needed it to be gave me enough of the neatness I needed to feel ok about ignoring her mess.)
Lisa, thank you so much for sharing that story! It gave me that "ahhh!" feeling. My kids are discovering this now as well. The boys share a room and so do the girls. After watching what they go throuhg, I wish I hadn't taken having my own room for granted. All those years I didn't appreciate what a good thing I had lol. Glad you came by for a read. Thanks so much.
Camping Dan, you're so right. There's always some sort of middle ground, and adapting is really important, you're so right about that.
Fantastic hub. Thank you for that info. I'm going to print it out and put it on the wall...and, I'm NOT exaggerating. And, I always thought I was the messy one. By comparison I would be the picture of organized. Thanks for the advice!
Laura lol! Wonderful. And you are so so very welcome =D. Glad I could help.
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Tom Rubenoff says:
4 months ago
Why did I guess that you were the neat freak? LOL
Oh the sacrifices we make! Thank you, Frieda!