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Getting quality back links from google.

We should all know a couple of basic things about Internet marketing.

  • If we want people to read what we write, or buy what we sell then we have to get them to visit our sites.
  • We are all Internet marketers if we are on the Internet and want to be seen.
  • We need good quality backlinks from quality sites to be seen.
  • Outside of hub-pages it is quite difficult to get back-links, or to see how your sales are in relation to your sales costs for which keywords used to find you, whereas the tools supplied here give an idea from the analyser page on what to look for, because of the way hub pages sets up our hubs with various options.

 

The rules go like this:

  1. Google is god.
  2. Google will not make you any real money without quality back links from google.
  3. Quality backlinks are hard to get until you have a decent online presence and good contents.That take time and learning.
  4. Despite all the other search engines, (hundreds of them) Google is still god.
  5. Google shows results better than all the other search engines for those looking on the net to find what they need.
  6. If they were not the best way to search for things online they would not be number one.

With this in mind I went searching for some way to get better backlink results for my websites.

I have been trying to get more quality hits for some time and found a few problems that seem pretty hard to circumvent.

On my business sites and those of my family we rely on split testing to get reliable information on all aspects of the AdWords ads, the squeeze pages and sales pages that we use to drive traffic.

So much bull crap.

So the next question is: Can you buy software that works as advertised to bring more hits through "better" back-links? Or are they just a waste of bandwidth.

Well, so far I have concluded that back-link software is like most of the other rubbish peddled by Internet marketers. Oversold and under performing. Most of this software is badly written and according to a software engineer I know, you could not sell such crap if not for the fact that it is marketing related, and most people trying to sell this stuff know sweet nothing about software. The code is with some exceptions, sloppy and full of fat.

I have looked at a few products, and so far they are all under whelming.

Back-linking software that works as claimed.

As I wish to contribute to hub-pages I wanted to go out hunting and bag the big one, drag it back here to hub pages and help feed the needy so to speak.

I have failed spectacularly!

Back-link building software like neurolinker do not seem to work even for the people who made it, (See comments) let alone it's user base, as they do not seem to attract customers to their own site or their customer's sites, as they have not generated enough good back links themselves yet.

Neurolinker dispute this and point out that they do not use it on their own site. See explanation in comments. 

Of all the people who gave them very positive testimonials not one has as many back-links as needed and one of them has only four, so it is highly unlikely to works for anyone who buys it. That makes sense doesn't it?

Apparently not! This has also been challenged by neurolinker. 

One of the people selling neurolinker, and proclaiming it's usefulness shows a screen shot of the website he owns in the coveted number one position in Google organic search by keyword.

I have removed the screenshot as neurolinker has no control over what stupid things affiliates may get up to, and Marc from neurolinker explains this in his comment. The first two adds were paid AdWords as they are always coloured yellow. Then under that you see his free or "Organic" add.

He is on the first page of google in an unpaid ad!

First page on google for the words typed in to google.

Whoever searched on google searched for those exact words he has in his ad. Genius! How did he get such a fine keyword.... was it from his years of experience and help from the gods?

Not quite.

In his free ad  the keyword he gets number one position for is.

His Own obscure website name!

Gee I wonder if I put my name in as a keyword I will get number one position every time for the rest of my life.

Johhnynini Ploflychparionopoulos

Yep, that works!

GIMMEABREAK!

What a weak con this is relying on nonsense evidence of performance based on a false model and a false premise, i am pleased that neurolinker have distanced themselves from this sort of marketing.

New marketers will still buy near useless monthly charged software as It can take months for analysis to see if it is working for you.

By then, no refund.These marketers have your money. That's their goal.

There goal is not making you money, why would they? Did you bring up one of their kids?

Your money fo nuthin an ya chicks for free.

Sales reliance is placed on the ignorance of the new Internet marketer to the real fundamentals that they should provide.

Even when matched to good contents and quality back-links hyped dishonest claims are a pain.

I do not give a toss anymore about trying to protect beginners from these pitfalls, even friends and family get caught despite dire warnings to "vet" every offer using all the spying software you can lay your hands on.

I guess most people want an easy way in a world where many other things are now easy.

There is no easy way. Good contents and reputation on other authority websites will pull paying visitors to your site eventually, if you need to get hits quickly you need to do a lot of work building pages for keywords very skillfully before buying your keywords from google AdWords.

It is slow whichever way you go into Internet marketing except for the few who know how to build huge lists of buyers, not just huge lists, lists that are qualified and likely to buy are not cheap to buy or easy to get. If they were it would be a different world. 

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analysing software

Although analysis software and backlink software are for sale by the gross on the net, most are near useless or will get you Google slapped if you use them.

We have tried online monthly subscriptions, desktop software and the analysis provided by Google and other search engines for free.

As Eric points out in his comment, the most accurate records of your hits come from is in the log file on your server and he suggests software good software to process the log file .  The log file can get pretty big and is a mystery to most marketers, as it involves a lot more learning about how to deal with server side software than many care to know. 

So far Google wins again, even though the diagnosis is a bit of a guess due to the good old rubbish in rubbish out of computing, and the difficulty in getting accurate keyword analysis sourced.

I still have not learnt a method of doing analysis that I can dissect for reliable data. I still try several ways then compare and guess the outcome.

For starters how can I know where my successful hits are coming from, when I know that diagnostics software relies on the input being accurate, and I know it is never completely good input due to different marketing employed.

Split testing squeeze pages, sale pages, and AdWords to assess what works and what doesn't on websites is still the best way to get more traffic for me.

I find split testing brain numbingly boring and time consuming but totally necessary.

I will not go in to why analysis is not generally accurate, as it is not important why, as there are many reasons for this, and in time it becomes evident to all of us when we get a bit of size on that this is one area of learning that is quite difficult to master,and is as much art as science. Lets just say it is complicated and someone with much better writing skills than me should knock up a hub on the subject.

Thanks for reading check back more to come, 

 

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agvulpes profile image

agvulpes  says:
12 months ago

Good stuff Ern another myth bites the dust. Noticed your google ads are showing "adtext generator".

Eric Graudins profile image

Eric Graudins  says:
12 months ago

Hi,

You've hit the nail on the head with your point #3 above: "Quality backlinks are hard to get until you have a decent online presence and good contents and that take time and learning".

You're talking about 2 different things in your hub:

Getting backlinks, and Analysisg traffic.

To paraphrase Sol the oil guy, "Backlinks Ain't Backlinks".

You need to consider the quality of backlinks, not the quantity. A backlink from an authority site dealing with the same topics as your hub is worth a hundred backlinks from random sites.

Traffic analysis:

The most accurate records of where your hits, etc are coming from is the log files on your server.

About the best log file analysis software is the very cleverly named "Sawmill".

(it processes logs - get it ?)

Free trial available at http://www.sawmill.net

You're also right about the ease of getting to the top of google.

It's very simple to do if you pick a term for which nobody is searching.

It's more difficult to get to the top of google for a term that people search for a lot, and it's almost impossible if many people are using SEO techniques to enhance their pages for that term.

Cheers,

Eric G.

earnestshub profile image

earnestshub  says:
12 months ago

Thank you Agvulpes.I am learning albeit not as fast as you!

Thanks Eric especially for pointing out that I have mixed 2 subjects. Typical of me... I need to control my random thought generator! I will edit the hub soon and make another separate hub for each.

And thanks for the sawmill tip, and I like the name of it. As the son of a logging contractor I got the connection I can rely on you to always contribute in a way that helps all hubbers.

patkagmak profile image

patkagmak  says:
12 months ago

so the question here is what is good content? I think I have good content. But I guess until those links start coming in...huh!

earnestshub profile image

earnestshub  says:
12 months ago

Hi Patkagmak, Many people with good content never get seen.

Have you used the trackers and other tools yet? I will have a good look through your hubs. Good content still needs to be good content that people are looking for on google to get sales going strong. I do not write many hubs about subjects that others want to read. I can tell because they get very few hits!

Best wishes Ern

Marc Ilgen  says:
11 months ago

I'm Marc Ilgen, the founder and developer of Neurolinker. I find it rather surprising that you feel you can disparage Neurolinker so much without ever using or apparently knowing much of anything about it. What is not surprising, given your lack of experience with or knowldege about the product, is that you got pretty much every fact wrong.

So let me address your claims one by one.

1. The claims by a "software engineer that you know" are ridiculous. You may know nothing about software development, since you must rely on the absurd opinion of this random friend, but I assure you I do and I have the record to prove it. I have been developing technology and complex software systems for over 25 years as an aerospace engineer (spacecraft guidance and control) and computer scientist doing government funded R&D in machine intelligence related topics. I have written software for spacecraft models, nuclear reactor simulations, image processing systems, information retrieval systems, and even cellphone games that have sold hundreds of thousand of copies. I have a PhD in Aerospace Engineering and several honors and awards for my work. So yes I know what I'm doing. I'd be curious to hear if your "software engineering friend" has a record that is even remotely as accomplished.

2. "I have failed spectacularly". Really? I have never had you as a user so I doubt it.

3. Your claim that Neurolinker doesn't even work for Neurolinker itself is quite simply wrong because in order to maintain the integrity of the network, Neurolinker.com is not one of the sites in the Neurolinker network! Sure, I could place a backlink to Neurolinker.com on everyone's linkpage, and I'm sure I could get tons of backlinks and pagerank from that. But that also might be a red flag to Google, who makes all sorts of arbitrary decisions, and I decided early on that I have no intention of putting my clients at risk. So I don't use Neurolinker on the Neurolinker site.

But your claims about sites actually in the Neurolinker network somehow not getting any backlinks is simply wrong. Honestly, did you actually check this out, or did you just have a bad day when you wrote this? Look at the Neurolinker.com website and you will see testimonials from various users. Even though Neurolinker is only about 3 1/2 months old, every one of the 5 sites listed there has PR2-3 and if you check the backlinks on Yahoo Site Explorer you will see that the sites have 526, 81, 504, 2822, and 1398 links. These are just examples of sites that have been in the network for 3 1/2 months, and in fact are the sites of people who gave testimonials when Neurolinker was launched. If this didn't work, then perhaps the sites would have no links or PR0 or would no longer exist. Instead these very same sites have good PR and lots of links. Obviously you just didn't do your homework before making your outlandish claims.

4. The affiliate advertsing Neurolinker gets top ranking in Google for his own website name. OK you got this one right - this is silly. But I have no idea who this affiliate is, and your tiny screenshot makes it impossible to read. Obviously I cannot control any affiliate who says something silly like this. And you will notice on the Neurolinker sales page that I never say "I can get you number one position in Google". Yes that may be easy to do for obscure keywords but for competitive keywords we all know it is MUCH harder. I just claim that Neurolinker will give you backlinks and backlinks will improve your search engine rankings, and even after only 3 1/2 months (a short time by SEO standards) it is definitely working, especially for the people that use all the Neurolinker features available, like article submission and collaborative social bookmarking.

So I suggest you do your homework before making scathing remarks about software systems about which it is obvious you know absolutely nothing.

Marc Ilgen, PhD

Neurolinker.com

earnestshub profile image

earnestshub  says:
11 months ago

Thanks for dropping by Marc.

Your experience is very impressive.

Yes as a matter of fact, I was having a bad day.

I was not talking about your software when describing badly written marketing software, I was generalizing, and will gladly re-write so that is clear.

My friend is a senior programmer with one of Australia's larger companies and runs his own company developing software. I know him well and he is not wrong about badly written marketing software in general, something that should please you, as no doubt with your experience Neurolinker is likely to be well written.

Many very experienced marketers have pointed out this fact in the past.

I don't think you would disagree there is a lot of over-hyped crap out there in marketing software.

I will take another look at your site, and would be more than pleased to discover that neuroliinker does indeed provide useful backlinks.

I agree that it is a lousy screenshot, and I will remove it anyway as you are right. You are not responsible for what some affiliate has done, so your product should not be judged by that.

In the mean time, I will say thanks for the comment and for keeping your shirt on!

I will check it out and report back. If it works I will use it and tell others to do the same.

Lgali profile image

Lgali  says:
10 months ago

very good hub

Misha profile image

Misha  says:
9 months ago

Actually Earnest I think I will give it a try. I did not read the full sales copy with FAQ yet, but based on what I see so far this looks like a legit service that can do the job. And pretty reasonably priced. Definitely worth giving a try IMO :)

earnestshub profile image

earnestshub  says:
9 months ago

Good luck with that Misha. The price is lower than some others that do not work, so I guess it may be worth a try. Will you let us know how you go with it?

APD Marketing profile image

APD Marketing  says:
9 months ago

Great hub and great discussion. Thank you, lots of food for thought.

Cheers

Derek

Buy Backlink  says:
6 months ago

This is a great post and have kept it in my bookmarks. Will continue to read it as i’m very new to a lot of the points you mention!Thanks though, i’m glad some people share good stuff like this!

Buy Backlinks  says:
5 months ago

I’m new tho this business and its very inspiring to know these kinds of information that i can used to make my venture on Internet business and it can bring me to my goal of success.Thanks a lot

Mark Knowles profile image

Mark Knowles  says:
3 months ago

Hey Earnest,

After reading this hub, I decide to try neuro linker. Got to say - they do what they say they will - provide lots of backlinks using the term you put in, but the quality of outgoing links on my own site was not good, and every site I tried it on had the page rank reduced after 5 months of using it.

earnestshub profile image

earnestshub  says:
3 months ago

Hey Mark,

Sorry to hear it did not hold longer. I thought the product may have some merit after the guy showed his credentials, but every one of these I have seen so far just do not work, at least not for long. "Grizzly" has tried it a couple of times. It works to get people to his blog, that's for sure, but every few weeks Google zaps it with the Google gun and it falls over. Thanks for the helpful feedback Mark. weather good there? :)

Mark Knowles profile image

Mark Knowles  says:
3 months ago

Weather is insanely hot - 102 F - and pollution filled. I have removed the neurolinker software now and have had some of my sites re ranked. One of them had -3 applied to it lol.

Oh well - you live and learn. I will be writing my own neurolinker hub any day now lol

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