Stock Market Value and Credit
72Where Will We Go From May, 2009
We have an S and P that is at over 900 while earnings per share on the S and P are hovering around 40 dollars. With 40 dollars earnings, normally the S and P would be valued at around 600-700 with a price earnings of 12. Why is the S and P overvalued? It is overvalued because the hedge funds have bought on margin, with banks getting fed money lending to these hedge funds.
The funds leverage themselves 10 to 1, and the gambling river boat keeps floating down the river. It has been blogged that so far, much of the recovery money has come from loans from the federal reserve. And most of the stimulus money has found its way to the stock market. It is a credit driven rally. The treasury of the United States is inflating another bubble right before our eyes. In other words, the stock market rally that started in March is completely and utterly bogus!!!
If stock earnings hover around 35-50 dollars, then it is clear to me that the S and P cannot remaln at the levels it now has attained. The market is clearly manipulated by the big boys. If anyone gets in now he is getting into a very risky valuation. I am not a stock analyst and I am not giving stock advice, but I know that the value of the market right now has nothing to do with the earnings of the stocks. I repeat, the value of the stock market has nothing at all to do with the earnings of stocks.
I believe that we will retest lows unless the price per share on the S and P climbs. Just remember, at the peak earnings were over 85 dollars per share. That is right, over 85 dollars per share. No wonder the stock market dropped like a rock.
Howard Davidowitz. An Important Rant from a Keen Market Observer
Credit Card Usury and the Stock Market
One of the reasons that banks are charging so many fees and high interest is because they are trying to make massive profits on credit cards in order to offset other losses on real estate, commercial property etc. The American people need to walk away from this Usury. It is a scam. The congress passed a credit card bill in May, 2009 which limits fees banks can charge. But the congress failed to even allow for any cap on interest rates. Therefore, banks could make up the fee losses with higher interest rates, which will likely hit those with good credit. I believe there is no moral shame in walking away from usurious rates.
States used to cap interest rates on credit cards at 12 percent. But the insatiable greed of banks caused that cap to be overturned, first in South Dakota and then elsewhere. Bottom line, the government of the United States, both at the state level and federal level has failed to protect the people. It is just like the toxic loan scam. The government did not protect the people but rather exposed the people to massive risk. How many scams can the government of the United States impose upon us before we establish a populist peaceful revolt. We can't take these scams against us by the financial system anymore!
I am not a lawyer or a financial planner. There is risk in walking away from credit cards. But as the links below show, enough is enough! Our own government, who we thought we could trust, has failed us and has left us to the wolves of a perverse and immoral capitalism. This is not your parents' country anymore folks.
This country as a government is fast becoming your enemy. Just be peaceful about your actions and do what you can. Take your money out of the big banks, put it in a jar or in a credit union. Do what you can to avoid the usury that is so overwhelming in this age of financial corruption.
Important Credit and Market Links
- Proof the Stock Market is Manipulated by Investor Class
I believe that the stock market is being manipulated. I believe that if you ride that manipulation, you need to be able to turn on a moment's notice and get out of this gamble. The saying is don't fight the... - We Already Have One World Government
Update: on 4/2/2009 British Prime Minister Gordon Brown proclaimed a "New World Order". Let's consider the consequences of this new world order. Clearly, the international bankers created this crisis, with... - Dont-pay-credit-cards.com
This is the sister site of http://www.dontpaycreditcards.com which I urge you to bookmark as well. My hope is to have a way for folks to come to terms with the massive deleveraging they have observed - Can You Safely Give a Teenager a Credit Card?
There are quite a few children who can handle credit card debt, and certainly children away from home can benefit from credit cards or a Visa or Mastercard logo on a debit card supplied by parents. But... - Sister Site to www.dont-pay-credit-cards.com
The banks have decided to raise interest rates rather than pass their inexpensive borrowing from the government along to the burdened credit card holders. They have become loan sharks. - Money Velocity
Money Velocity - PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy
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Secretary Geithner is a Liar
Secretary Geithner is a liar. He is saying that the money given from AIG to Goldman Sachs, where he used to work, and the other counterparties, could not have been diminished at all from the 100 percent actually given. He said the US government did not have the authority to diminish this percentage to 50 percent. This is one of the most shameful episodes of stealing from the US treasury ever established.
Of course, with ownership of 80 percent of AIG, the government could very well have given these other banks and Goldman Sachs less than 100 percent. There is no reason why they could not when other bondholders, like those invested in Chrysler, and their counterparties could take a big hit.
No, Geithner was bailing out his cronies, Goldman Sachs. Like Paulson before him, this was all about saving Goldman Sachs. I am calling here and now for a clawback of this money paid out by AIG. Our sleazy and wimpy congress needs to take action NOW.
If the United States government does not have the authority to stop payouts of counterparty risk to international banks and Goldman Sachs then our government has lost its sovereignty as I have argued in some of the links above about One World government. Our wimpy and sleazy congress has abdicated sovereignty of the United States right before our eyes. This is a theft of our country's resources to bail out international banks and Goldman Sachs. This must be investigated and, in my opinion, prosecuted.
Credit in the News
- Sovereign Credit Swap Curbs May Push Trading to Asia, ISDA SaysBloomberg10 hours ago
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- Limits on trading credit-default swaps linked to government debt being pursued in Europe may push trading of the contracts to Asia, according to the International Swaps and Derivatives Association.
- Corporate Bond Risk Falls in Europe, Credit-Default Swaps ShowBloomberg10 hours ago
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of insuring against losses on European corporate bonds fell, according to traders of credit-default swaps.
- Fitch Says Credit Profiles of AAA Countries Have DeterioratedBloomberg11 hours ago
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The global financial crisis and recession have triggered a deterioration in the credit profiles of AAA-rated countries, which includes the U.S. and U.K., Fitch Ratings said.
- EDF Rises as Credit Suisse Says Legislative Dates Key CatalystBloomberg10 hours ago
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- Electricite de France SA shares gained in Paris after Credit Suisse analyst Elisenne Verdoja wrote in a note to clients that the release of a calendar for French power market reform is a key catalyst for the shares.
- Dollar May Drop on Japan’s Holiday ‘Jinx,’ Credit Agricole SaysBloomberg11 hours ago
March 19 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar may drop against the yen on speculation currency volatility will jump as Japan’s financial markets close for a national holiday on March 22, according to Credit Agricole CIB.
- Finance Bonds Pull Ahead as JPMorgan Sells Debt: Credit MarketsBusinessWeek15 hours ago
Financial company bonds are beating industrial debt by the most this year after lagging behind in February, encouraging investors to snap up new issues from JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Credit Suisse Group AG.
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Lol, James, thanks. If you have any hubs that address bank scams just share them here. We need resources for people to find out stuff! Usury is a big problem for the United States and I don't think it has ever been bigger.
You are so right...proud to be your fan....what you say about the big boys and manipulation is right on the money. However for real good traders who watch correlations between commodities and currencies these "swings in a storm" are making some of the greatest opportunities to make serious money and stay financially alive at a time when most financial advisors will take your money and leave you poorer down the road.
WTG
Well done!
"Goldman Sachs.." they invented many of the 'instruments' that 'crashed' the market.
Oh, but I must be wrong, for Barney Frank told me the housing market wouldn't crash....in 2005.
Lol, Ixxy, so did David Lereah from Nar. He said real estate always goes up! He was so discredited he has become a hermit selling weed in Mendocino County. JUST KIDDING!
Yes trader if you are going to be in the market you should be a trader. Nothing long term works except maybe an inflation trade and who knows if we will escape deflation first?












James A Watkins says:
10 months ago
Awesome hub dude! You are like a genius or something. I think they should cap interest at 10% per year—simple. If it's good enough for the Lord it oughtta be good enough for Capital One.