Your Credit Report - Why Fatter is Better

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By Snow in the Know


Fat or Thin? Think again ...
Fat or Thin? Think again ...

Being Too Thin Can Lower Your Credit Score

What Should Your Credit Report NOT Have in Common with Paris Hilton, Keira Knightley, Kate Moss or Skinny Supermodels?

So much of the mainstream media focuses on famous painfully thin ... or almost anorexic ... public figures. We often glorify being thin and usually detest anything described as fat.

While fat can be unhealthy for your body, there is something you should understand ...

Thin is just not "IN" when it comes to your credit report. No, believe it or not, fat is actually good for your credit, your credit cards and your consumer debt.

There are many moving parts when it comes to managing that valuable asset know as your credit. The amount of history a credit report contains can have a huge bearing on your credit score.

According to the credit industry veterans and consultants, if you have only two accounts or just two credit cards you have a "thin" credit file. It is recommended that you keep at least three open and active accounts that have existed for at least three years. Active means activity has occurred within the past 6 months.


Manage Your Credit as an Asset
Manage Your Credit as an Asset

Is it crucial to have a fat or multi-account credit file?

Not necessarily. It depends on what you think you'll need down the road.

Does it make it easier to borrow money later? Yes. Especially when purchasing a property using niche mortgage programs such as stated income, no documentation, zero down interest only, etc.

If you only have a two-account or "thin" credit history you may be at a serious disadvantage if something negative were to happen that is reported to your file, it could impact your score in a big way. One 30-day late payment might knock the score down 50 points.

Depending on how long your two existing accounts have been open, the damage from a single late payment may be more or less severe. If the accounts were less than a year old the overall picture would be worse than if both accounts were over five years old or more.


Did I mail that payment?
Did I mail that payment?

Memory Hiccups or Late Mail

People with thin credit files need to pay extra attention to how they manage their payments and debts because there's very little room for error. One slip-up could spiral you down to a sub-prime borrower credit score level in some circumstances.

On the other hand, if you have a nice "fat" credit file with ten accounts open and active, you're in a position that could be more closely compared to a diversified stock portfolio.

If something were to happen inside one of your accounts, you'd have such a broad mix that the others would keep your scores from going too far south. Just like in the world of investing, if you have ten stocks and one goes down, the other nine are hopefully good enough to keep your overall picture in looking good.


Don't Let Extended Vacations Damage Your Precious Assets
Don't Let Extended Vacations Damage Your Precious Assets

Single Oversight - Scores of Impact

Let's look at a real life example.

While these two friends are very much alike in many, many ways, they are different in one critical way ...

One is "Fat" and one is "Thin," and I don't mean one eats too much.

Let's see how this difference impacts their lives:

Linda and Tricia have been friends since college and are very much alike. They live in the same zip code. They travel together and buy a lot of the same things. Both have credit accounts over 5 years old and have always paid their bills on time. They also both have a credit score of 720.

After months of anticipation and planning, they go together on a long vacation to Europe. But during their fun trip, there was one important thing they left out of their travel plans.

They both forget to make a payment on their bills. Both women ultimately have a 30 day late notice reported on their credit files. Once they have been home from their trip for a few weeks, they both order a free credit report to take a look at their credit scores to see how much of a hit they took due of their oversight.

Linda's score, after the 30 day late, shows a respectable 690. Yet Tricia's score dropped all the way down to 630. (Wow ... 90 points!)

Why such a difference?

Linda had eight accounts and Tricia had only two open and active accounts. Because of Linda's "fat" credit file, she had more positive credit history to cushion the impact of the negative information. Tricia's thinner credit file had less history and therefore resulted in a bigger hit to her score.


Experts Recommend "Fat" for Most People

Gary Novel, a 20+ year veteran in the credit industry, is a friend and colleague from Chicago who is an expert and consultant in credit file management. Gary frequently can be heard on financial radio shows and is known as the "Kredit Guru," which is a title that has been well-earned.

He says multiple open accounts provide a greater layer of protection for your credit report history. A "fat" file can also heal the wounds of a negative occurrence quicker. There's nothing wrong with only having two open and active accounts ... as long as nothing negative happens.

But when you keep so few lines in your credit, a late payment or a credit collection account can really send the scores out of whack compared to the fatter account with ten open active accounts. Unfortunately these things happen when you least expect them and sometimes without your knowledge.

This advice is certainly something to consider before you "close out" or eliminate your debt in an attempt to "manage" your credit. But don't run out and open a bunch of new credit to try to make your file fat! A lot of new activity, newly opened accounts and credit inquiries on your file will also impact your credit scores.

In fact, I was just reading an alarming statistic. According to an article recently appearing in the business section of the New York Times website, on average, "Americans under 35 years of age spend 16% more than they earn." Wow! If you find yourself in that category or care about someone in that group, getting a firm grip on what is being reported to your credit file is even more important.

So, what should you do? Move slowly and deliberately when opening any new credit.

  • Be sure to keep any balances low compared to your credit limit.
  • Pay off your entire balance monthly, whenever possible, to avoid interest charges.
  • Always make your payments within the grace period to avoid extra late fees.
  • Think twice before closing the accounts you don't use.

If you decide to open a new credit card account, be selective.

It's best to use a credit card instead of a checks, debit cards or cash, but when using a card for convenience, you should try to pay off the balance each month. This method, in essence, gives you an interest free loan for 30 days. You'll be more able to track where your money goes, and if you are selective when choosing a card, you could also receive some additional rewards.

Smart consumers have their credit card companies pay them by selecting a rewards card. You may choose points, miles, or cash back ... it's your decision, but don't take any card that offers less than 1% back (or 1 mile per dollar). Most often, you can even do better.

CitiBank has a card that gives you 6% back on purchases at the grocery or at gas stations, but only for what you charge in the first year.

American Express offers a card with 5% cash back on purchases made at the grocery, drug stores or gas stations and 1% on everything else. They also offer a card with a points program that let's you redeem your reward choices for retail purchases, entertainment or gift cards. The points one is called "Blue" and their website says the points never expire and there is no fee. The cash back one is called "Blue Cash."

Most cards offering larger percents back (like 3-6%) have a cap on their rewards. These two cards mentioned above with cash back, will reward you up to $1,000 back each year ... but that's the limit.

If you carry any balances on your cards, getting maximum rewards should not be your primary concern. First ... pay down your debt. A card with a $5,000 balance that is paid off with a $100 monthly payment would take you 9 years to pay off. What would that cost you? $5,100 in interest ... or double what you owe!

While it's a fair amount of work to do, you can try to reduce that expense by doing this little trick: ... do a balance transfer to a 0% introductory rate card and keep switching to a new card when the introductory rate expires. Your $100 a month payment would then make you debt free in less than half the time.

Here are two cards that charge no interest on balance transfers for the first 12 months and they offer rewards. They're both from Discover. The "Open Road" card offers 5% cash back for gas and auto expenses on the first $100 each billing cycle, The "More" card returns 5% cash back on travel, department stores, home improvement stores, clothing stores, gas, restaurants and movies. They both offer 1% cash back on everything else and 5% to 20% cash back on select retail purchases.

Check them out!


Give Your Credit the Attention it Deserves
Give Your Credit the Attention it Deserves

Manage Your Credit Like You Manage All Your Assets

Yes, your credit is a precious asset and should be managed deliberately, just like you manage your investment assets.

Oh, and don't forget or overlook another huge asset that should be managed ... your home's equity. If you are a homeowner, on average, you are holding 67% of your total wealth in that single asset. Any financial advisor worth the letters after his name, would "freak out" if you told him you had 2/3 of your "eggs in one basket."

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PamProv profile image

PamProv  says:
2 years ago

Great information Marian, this subject just isn't talked about enough, the delicate balance between the number of accounts open and the ratio of available credit versus the balance is crucial. I look forward to sharing this with some of my clients, thank you.

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the comment Pam!

Michelle P  says:
2 years ago

Wow! Thank you so much for this information. No one ever tells you this. You just saved my credit!

David A  says:
2 years ago

Thanks Marion. It's amazing how much credit reports can affect the quality of our lives in both a negative or positive way. Every time I learn something about how credit reports work so I can to protect and/or improve it is a good thing.

lbbastion  says:
2 years ago

Awesome information Marian, Just the "opposite" of what my mother always taught =-)

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

I'm glad you learned something. The more we know, the better choices we make!

1106 Design  says:
2 years ago

Oh, bummer. I guess I still have to diet after all. :-) Just kidding, Marian. Great information. Thanks for sharing.

Kreditguru  says:
2 years ago

Credit is so important in todays world....Don't ignore your score!

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Hey, Kredit Guru! Gary... Thanks for sharing!

Alex  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the different approach to an important message.

Alex

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Yes, it's a different approach, but hugely important. Managing every aspect of your assets ... even those you may be overlooking ... it something everyone should be serious about.

Tom Geneal  says:
2 years ago

Great Info... Good to know before we screw up!

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

It's really sad that so many don't realize how they can negatively impact their credit scores by doing what they think are good things...

Brett  says:
2 years ago

Ms. Snow,

Thanks SO MUCH for the information. It is really nice for someone to be able to explain this kind of stuff in simple terms. Keep it coming, with more of this advice I may be able to piece it all together.

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the comments, Brett! Managing your credit score can be tricky. The more you know how your score is calculated, the better choices you can make.

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Rob Jundt  says:
2 years ago

Great hub. Stumbled across similar information about 2 years ago and subsequently closed all open accounts with zero activity. We now keep a few lines open but always have a balance and make quick payment. It seems the credit bureaus really like to see consistent activity. Thanks again.

Seamus Lyra  says:
2 years ago

I agree with Rob ... To prepare for an extended trip, I closed a lot of accounts. When I left the country and there was no activity for a while, I had done a second wrong thing. Thin credit with very few accounts PLUS hardly any activity. Wow did my scores go way down! This is great advice to follow.

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the real world example, Seamus!

Sandyh  says:
2 years ago

This is a great hub with a lot of good information about managing your credit file. I'm a big advocate of establishing and managing your credit wisely. These tips and the example of the 2 friends is very helpful for me and for others. Thanks again.

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks, Sandy! I've been looking at credit reports for over 17 years in the mortgage industry. It's amazing how enlightening seeing real examples can be.

TinaS  says:
2 years ago

Great stuff, Marian. It's rare to be able to get this information free. Usually you have to buy a credit report or monitoring system first. Even then, it doesn't spell it our for a person like you have.

Nice job!

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Mind-ing for Gold  says:
2 years ago

Great info Sandy - having multiple lines of credit with varying balances seems counter-intuitive in light of most of our 'over-spending' habits. The more debt you have, the better your credit rating!

It's important to know how the system works - even if it doesn't make sense.

Thanks for the great Hub!

~Schelli

Fred Arnow  says:
2 years ago

Great site. Great photos. Great content. I was in financial services as a career, and I agree with everything.

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Caregiver-007  says:
2 years ago

These are basic survival skills that should be taught in a mandatory life management class in all high schools.

How many of us, at differenet points in our lives, have made the mistake of getting rid of unused accounts instead of charging a little, paying it off, and keeping that credit line, used in an interspersed fashion with others, for a favorable total balance/credit limit/high limit mix?

Whew! Like so much, it has become an art and a science. Thanks for giving some fresh guidance through this necessary maze.

~Margaret

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks Fred. Isn't it funny how so many folks don't realize some of the simple steps they can take to make their credit file so much better?

Elizabeth Brewer  says:
2 years ago

Marian,

What an original way to present such valuable information about credit and its many nuances. Great content. Thanks so much.

Elizabeth

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eBookKing  says:
2 years ago

I have to say this article rocks! Very well written. Very clever with the way your links were integrated naturally throughout the article. Someone was definitely paying attention in class. I think this article will and educate the public at large. I think we have a HubLove candidate. Bravo!

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Mschanl  says:
2 years ago

Thumbs up fo you Snow. I think your hub is very informative. I think I'm good when it comes to managing my finances but I picked up some new ideas here. Thanks!

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paulsimister  says:
2 years ago

A very attractive looking and informative hubpage and I love the analogy with the weight issue. Congratulations.

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KeithB  says:
2 years ago

Great information and great presentation. Very informative. I for one did not know the importance of a "Fat" vs. "Thin" credit history.

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the comment. Glad you learned something..

Charles McCorquodale  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the great HUB!

Charles McCorquodale

John  says:
2 years ago

An excellent first hubpage on a subject that will appeal to all. Plenty of scope for subsequent hubpages to answer all the questions this one raises. A definite hit with me.

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sligobay  says:
2 years ago

terrific presentation of a complex subject. it's very 'readable' and not too technical. Cheers,

N.de Guzman  says:
2 years ago

Thank you. Very good ways on how to handle credits. Many people find a hard time managing these most of the time.

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hubmarlyn  says:
2 years ago

I like this hub very much. Somewhere in the past 10 years or so I can remember hearing of the need to maintain multiple credit accounts, and was puzzled to hear that closing a little-used account can hurt one's rating. This article drives home and explains those points, and others related to them. Just one question: Do the credit bureaus "ding" you in any way for moving a balance around from one 0%-intro card to another, as the article recommends (near the end)? Thanks, --Jim

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Thanks for the question, Jim. As I understand it, the inquiry for opening a new account might have a small impact, but if it's only once every 6 or 12 months, it shouldn't cause any definitive moves in your score.

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hubmarlyn  says:
2 years ago

Marian, a couple more questions for you:

1) Do you know whether those two Discover cards (mentioned near the end of your article) carry an annual fee, and if so, how much the fee is?

2) Any idea how long the balance-transfer process typically takes when transferring to one of those Discover cards?

Thanks!

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Snow in the Know  says:
2 years ago

Both the Discover cards have "NO ANNUAL FEE" per their webpage. This is a link to a comparison of the two cards. They both show a 0% APR for the first 6 months and no annual fee. Check out this link:

http://www.discovercard.com/credit-cards/compare-c

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Rusty Green  says:
2 years ago

Great hub! I know you wrote this a few weeks ago, but unfortunately, there are so many hubs to read that I am only now getting to yours. As someone who has been struggling to improve my credit score for some time now, I couldn't agree with you more.

And one thing I noticed is that most creditors seem to have a due date close to the end of the month (round about the same time when they report to the credit reporting agencies). For someone like me who uses cc to pay the bills, it means my balance has gone low by the that time because all the bills are paid...

So my point is that it is not only late or no payment that can lower your score but also the time when you pay your bills (even if you pay on time). Keep writing! :)

GoodCreditRocks  says:
17 months ago

Great analogies that make credit much more "common man." It's a fantastic way to think of credit.

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