Buying Used Cars in Toronto: Additional Fees and the Monthly Payment

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By Andy Xie

So, you've negotiated a price that suits you and your budget. But is that the price you'll be paying? Probably not, because the price you see on the tag and the price you negotiate is just the base price. You should expect some additional fees. This hub explains the usual additional fees and taxes when buying a used car in Ontario. Further down this hub, I'll also show you a useful formula for figuring out your monthly payment, if you're taking the financing option.


Every car comes with additional fees and taxes.
Every car comes with additional fees and taxes.

Additional Fees (Ontario)

Additional fees are not scams. You'll find additional fees in just about every used car dealer in Toronto, and in Canada and the United States.

Here are the typical additional charges when you buy a car in Ontario:

  • GST (5%) and PST (8%)
  • Administration Fee ($295)
  • Emission Safety and Delivery ($395)
  • License Plate ($125)
  • Warranty Charge

Let's say you are purchasing a $10,000 car. What would be the total cost, if you were paying in cash?

Base Price: 		      10,000
Administration Fee:		 295
Emission & Safety Test           395

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                              10,690 
GST (5%):		      	 534	
PST (8%):			 855
 			      ------
After-tax subtotal	      12,079 
License Fee: 			 125
			      -------
Final Total		      12,204 

 

As you can see, in Ontario, your $10,000 car will end up costing you just over $12,000. It's a big difference, so it's good to know these charges, and what they are.


Make sure the details of the deal are clear
Make sure the details of the deal are clear

The administration fee is just that, an administration fee charged by the dealership. The emission and safety fee goes towards the emission and safety test, which is required by the Ministry of Transportation of Ontario. The costs I have stated above ($295 and $395, respectively) are the general standard in used car dealerships in Toronto.

There is a 13% tax on the price of the car, the administration fee, and the emission safety/delivery fee. If you need a license plate, there is a $125 charge which includes the plate and a 1-year sticker. There is no tax on this.

You may want to shop around for warranties. Some dealers will give you a basic 2-year Powertrain warranty (for engine and transmission) for free, while other dealers may charge some money for it.

When you first see the price of a vehicle, and when you are negotiating, make sure the details are clear. Include or excluding taxes? Administration fees? The charges add up so you want to make sure you weren't negotiating for a different price than you thought you were.

Charges in addition to that of the negotiated price are common in used cars dealerships in Toronto as well as most other places. Wherever you are, just be sure you know the details before you seal the deal.


Financing: the Monthly Payment

With all these fees, you might not have enough money to pay it all with a cheque. Financing is a great option, allowing you monthly payments. The interest rate when you buy used cars is higher than new cars because new car dealerships usually do their own financing (so they can offer "0%"), also called in-house financing, while used car dealerships offer you financing from the bank.

The interest rate depends on your own credit history. It is true that you'll be able to get financing with "Good credit, bad credit, no credit!" but with bad credit, your interest rate will no doubt be much higher. If you have a good credit history, the bank may offer you a rate of Prime + 1. Many dealers advertise around 8.89%.

TIP OF THE TRADE: From experience, I have learned a simple formula for obtaining an approximate car payment, assuming an 8.89% rate and 0 down payment.

Monthly Payment = L / M + 50

L = loan M = number of months in term

Basically, you divide the amount of money you need to borrow, divide by the amount of months in your term, then add fifty dollars, for your monthly payment.

Above, I used the example of a $10,000 car, which adds up to $12,204 after taxes and fees. What would your monthly payment be? Here's an example, assuming 8.89% interest rate, 0 down, and a 5-year term

12204 / 60 + 50 = $253

It is not an exact formula, but it is very close and it more than enough for a general idea of your monthly payment. But of course, it will depend on the exact interest rate you can obtain.

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anonymous  says:
14 months ago

thank you for good structured info

James  says:
14 months ago

Agreed, thanks for this, I was about to tell a used dealer to stick his admin' fee.

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Andy Xie  says:
14 months ago

No problem James. Good to know I could help.

Maureen  says:
9 months ago

when you buy a used car privately are you taxed on the actual amount of the sale or a book value? thanks

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Andy Xie  says:
9 months ago

Hi Maureen,

For the private car sale, the tax is on actual amount or book value, whichever is highter. When the actual amount is lower, you can submit your support documents, then you may get taxed on actual value. But in most situations the book value is much lower.

Aby  says:
8 months ago

Who does the sales tax go to, if the car is bought from a private party?

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Andy Xie  says:
8 months ago

You don't pay tax to the seller, you pay tax to government when you register you car in the provincial transportation office

roman  says:
8 months ago

great article!


But i don't understand the +50 in the car payment formula

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Andy Xie  says:
8 months ago

Hi Roman,


Thank you for visiting.


+50 is the interest. This is a raugh formula, just to give an idea.



Xie Groupie  says:
7 months ago

Andy is cool cat!

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Andy Xie  says:
7 months ago

Thanks!

Keith Watson  says:
7 months ago

Hi Andy,


I live in Michigan and I am considering buying an Ontario registered car in a private transaction. What is the best and least expensive way to get the car from Canada to the USA? What costs will there be beyond sales tax and license fees in Michigan, if you know, and what costs will there be in Canada if the car is shipped or driven to Michigan. Thanks

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Andy Xie  says:
6 months ago

Hi Keith,


I'm sorry that I can't be of much help on that. Try searching Google for methods of shipping from Canada to USA and registering a car there. Thanks for reading my hub.


Andy

John Y.  says:
3 months ago

Hello Andy,


I am a first time buyer and I am trying to buy a car from a private seller for 2000 but I just can't figure out how much it would cost me in the end. Do the e-test and safety tests cost as much as they are stated above in your article? And will they charge both pst and gst for private sales?


Thank you in advance.


John.

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Andy Xie  says:
3 months ago

In Ontario, the buyer is responsible for paying only the 8% PST. hope that helps.

b  says:
3 months ago

Thanks for the info


Quick question


so say if i get a 10 000$ car from dealer would it be 12 000 after every thing dont i have to pay dealership price??

karen  says:
3 months ago

Last night I just signed for a used car with a deposit of $500 conditional on financing. The contract included costs of an admin fee $295 , PDI fee of $395 and a DOT fee of $495.


I feel stupid because I was rushed to sign as they were closing and I didn't fully understand these fees. Have you heard of them and what do I get for this money? If they are legitimate I have no problem paying them.


Also is there a cooling off period for a deposit? If so what should I do?

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Andy Xie  says:
3 months ago

b - I'm not very clear on what you mean. The sticker price is negotiable (usually) and then on top of that you have taxes and additional fees, as well as interest for financing.


Karen - For my dealership, the buyer only pays admin and emission/safety. Those are standard fees in most used car dealerships in Ontario. I'm not sure if the fees you mentioned are legit or not. I advise you call your dealership and ask someone to explain it to you. As for the deposit, if you are doing the financing through the dealership, you can tell them you can't afford the downpayment. In my dealership, the deposit can be refunded without reason.

karen  says:
3 months ago

As you suggested I called my dealer to ask about them and tried to explain them away as costs for auction, fixing small things, etc but when I said that these costs and extras should be included by the asking price he eliminated them from the deal on the spot along with the taxes on them that he charged. (my guess is that he gets away with it sometimes so why not try).


Thanks so much for your help, you save me a bit of cash!

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Toronto condos  says:
2 months ago

I think having +- 25% additional "tax" is pretty restricting, especially now, when the car market needs help...anyway, I believe we have pretty enough various fees, taxes, payments, licences, eh...:)


take care

Stan  says:
2 months ago

Thanks for writing this Andy, I'm relatively new to Canada and had been looking at used cars for a few months now. I had no idea these fees were going to be added, this will definitely cause me to adjust my budget.


~S

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