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By J D Murrah


The Alamo opening theme

Theme from Viva Max

Clip from Ride with the Devil

Outlaw Josey Wales


My top 10 Texas Revenge Films, Shows & Cartoons

Since I am not a movie mavin by any stretch of the imagination, the focus of my answer be on revenge films dealing with Texas. With this in mind, this hub will be my top revenge films dealing with Texas.

1. The Alamo films. The main Alamo films that people are familiar with are the John Wayne film of 1960 and the 2004 version with Billy BobThornton and Dennis Quaid. These films show the ugly side of revenge as Santa Anna takes his vengence out on the Texians held up in the mission. The Texians also take their own kind of revenge by sabatoging the Mexican cannons, although it is not nearly as bloodthirsty as Santa Anna's. The second Alamo film is more graphic in how it shows the black flag and features the song Deguello, which clearly shows that he is wanting revenge. It also shows Sam Houston (Dennis Quaid) taking revenge for the Alamo upon the Mexican army at San Jacinto.

2. True Grit (1969). This film shows the extent the young girl Mattie (Kim Darby) is willing to go in revenge for her father's death. Her journey finds her associating with people that she would not otherwise take up with, consisting of a Marshall and a Texas Ranger. During their time together, she develops friendships with those accompanying her. In this case, the young woman is seeking a greivance for wrongs committed against her family.

3. Secondhand Lions (2003). In this movie, the story of the two brothers struggle against a rival in the middle east in the early part of their lives reveals the long lasting aspects of revenge. Although revenge is not the main story, it forms part of the backdrop and becomes an important part of the ending. The long standing desire for revenge has driven their rival to extremes. In the end, the rival pays honor to the two brothers.

4. Viva Max! (1969). This is another Alamo related movie, although a comedy. In the film, Peter Ustinov leads his troops in a comical taking of the Alamo. Although revenge it part of his motive, it does not overpower him or the movie.

5. Tex Avery Cartoons- In many of these cartoons, the characters are involved in comical ploys designed to take revenge on their rival. The wolf is often outsmarted by Droopy. Although the characters and setting of his cartoons change the theme of revenge is a frequent one. By using humor, the painful aspects of revenge become something to laugh at.

6. Urban Cowboy (1980). In this film, there is an on-going rivalry between both male and female characters. The two main male characters attempt outdoing each other. Revenge becomes a factor as the rivaly at times turns into paybacks, with vicious steps taken to hurt the other party. The female figures also have a rivalry going with some limited revenge seen between them.

7. Robocop (1987) Although it's stated location was Detroit, some of it was filmed in Baytown, Texas. In this movie, revenge is assisted by technology as the main character seeks revenge for mistreatment he had received earlier in the film.The image of high-tech law enforcment was scary at the time, especially with revenge being a driving factor behind his use of force.

8. Walker, Texas Ranger-In this television series, there are many episodes that contain revenge as a theme. The revenge is not as extreme as seen in the Alamo films or comical as in the Tex Avery, yet it is revenge all the same. At times the revenge is centered on Walker and his associates, at other times revenge is what drives the criminals into the decisions they are making.

9. Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek Television series. Themes of revenge often surface in the episodes. The main revenge theme that stands out is that of the character Khan. Between the television episode where Khan's plan was thwarted and the motion picture, The Wrath of Khan, the character is seen as obsesses and driven to extremes by his desire for revenge. The movie contains the line, "Revenge is a dish best served cold". Although he was a man of many talents, Khan is driven to obsession by his desire for revenge upon Captain Kirk and the Enterprise.

10. RIde With the Devil (1999). I include this one, since Texas re-enactors were involved in the film. This film shows revenge and depredations committed in Missouri during wartime. The sacking of Lawrence shows how extreme the revenge can be after the wives of many of the men had been killed by the Missouri red legs.Here the revenge is gritty, becasue there is no comdy of science fiction to temper what happens. Since it is a historic topic, the revenge is unsettling. Another film which shares this genre is the 1976 movie, the Outlaw Josey Wales (originally entitled Gone to Texas). In the movie, the main character Josey Wales goes through a time of revenge and then attempts to leave it behind him, yet others do not let him leave it behind.

A List of Texas films: Filmed in Texas

  • The Alamo

    The Life of David Gale

    Miss Congeniality

    The Rookie

    Second Hand Lions

    Lone Star State of Mind

    Spy Kids

    Spy Kids 2: The Island of Lost Dreams

    Hope Floats

    Dazed and Confused

    Courage Under Fire

    The Faculty

    What's Eating Gilbert Grape

    Blood Simple

    Raising Arizona

    Slacker

    The Newton Boys

    Red Headed Stranger

    Heartbreak Hotel

    Lonesome Dove

    The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas

    D.O.A.

    Fandango

    Nadine

    Raggedy Man

    Songwriter

    Texas Chainsaw Massacre II

    On The Road Again

    Roadie

    The Great Waldo Pepper

    The Getaway

    A Perfect World

    Where the Heart Is

    Texas Chainsaw Massacre

    Waiting for Guffman

    Picnic

    Screen Door Jesus

    The 25th Hour (Disney)

    Texas: The Big Picture (IMAX)

    Yorick, Fool of Denmark

    American Outlaws

    Texas Justice

    The Underneath

    Two For Texas

    Blank Check

    Home Fries

    Michael

    The Soul Collector

    Love and a .45

    Waking Live

    True Women

    Flesh and Bone

    Just Sue Me

    Office Space

    Ned Blessing: The Story of My Life and Times

    A Slipping-Down Life

    A Texas Funeral

    The Whole Wide World

    The War at Home

    Piranha

    The Whole Shootin' Match

    Lovin' Molly

    Outlaw Blues

    Leadbelly

    AUSTIN CITY LIMITS

    ALL THE PRETTY HORSES

    San Antonio area

    ARMAGEDDON

    Dallas area, Houston area

    BOTTLE ROCKET

    Dallas area

    ANY GIVEN SUNDAY

    Dallas area

    DANCER, TEXAS POP. 81

    Fort Davis

    RUSHMORE

    Houston

    SONS OF THUNDER

    Dallas area

    SELENA

    San Antonio area, Corpus Christi, PortAransas, Lajitas

    FATHER HOOD

    San Antonio, Houston area

    ACE VENTURA: WHEN NATURE CALLS

    Kerrville, San Antonio area

    GRAND CHAMPION

    Snyder, Marfa, Alpine, Midlan

    CAST AWAY

    Canadian

    BARNEY & FRIENDS

    1992 - 1999, 2002

    Dallas area ( PBS)

    JERICHO

    Brackettville, Del Rio

    JIMMY NEUTRON,BOY GENIUS

    Dallas

    KINGPIN

    El Paso (NBC)

    PEARL HARBOR

    Houston, CorpusChristi

    TEXAS JUSTICE

    Houston

    SLAP HER...SHE'S FRENCH

    Dallas / Fort Worth area

    TOO LEGIT: THE MC HAMMER STORY

    Houston

    JFK

    Dallas / Fort Worth area

    THE WAY SHE MOVES

    Houston (VH-1)

    WAKING UP IN RENO

    Amarillo

    AT ANY COST

    Houston (VH-1)

    WALKER, TEXAS RANGER

    Dallas / Fort Worth area (1993 - 2000, CBS)

    GOING TO CALIFORNIA

    Austin area

    A FACE TO KILL FOR

    Houston

    THE EVENING STAR

    Houston, Texas City, Galveston

    JAG

    Corpus Christi, Paramount Pictures / NBC

    LAST MAN STANDING

    El Paso area

    NECESSARY ROUGHNESS

    Dallas area

    THE OPERATOR

    Dallas area

    LOLITA

    Houston area, El Paso, San Antonio area

    THE RAGE WITHIN

    Dallas area

    LONE STAR

    Eagle Pass, Del Rio, Laredo

    POWDER

    Houston area

    SIMPLE MEN

    Houston area

    DALLAS

    Dallas (1978 - 1990, CBS)

    TO SERVE AND PROTECT

    Dallas

    BLUE SKY

    El Paso, Van Horn, Salt Flat

    STREETS OF LAREDO

    Terlingua, Alpine, Del Rio, Brackettville

    UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: THE

    RETURN

    Waxahachie, Caddo Lake

    MERMAIDS

    Midland, San Angelo

    STREAMERS

    Dallas area

    A PAIR OF ACES

    Austin

    TERMS OF ENDEARMENT

    Houston

    PROBLEM CHILD

    Dallas

    THE YELLOW ROSE

    San Antonio, Del Rio

    THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL

    Dallas area

    ROBOCOP 2

    Houston

    TEXASVILLE

    Archer City, Wichita Falls

    EDDIE MACON'S RUN

    Laredo

    WILD AT HEART

    El Paso

    BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY

    Dallas

    THE JESSE OWENS STORY

    Dallas area

    LOCAL HERO

    Houston

    THE LEGEND OF BILLIE JEAN

    Corpus Christi area

    SILKWOOD

    Dallas

    LOST IN AMERICA

    Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, West Texas

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE

    Amarillo area

    SYLVESTER

    Marfa, Alpine, Fort Davis

    INDEPENDENCE DAY

    Anson

    TENDER MERCIES

    Waxahachie

    CALL TO GLORY

    Del Rio area

    BACK ROADS

    Brownsville

    BARBAROSA

    Lajitas, Brackettville, Fredericksburg

    THE MAN WHO LOVED WOMEN

    Houston area

    ROBOCOP

    Dallas area

    PARIS, TEXAS

    West Texas, Houston

    PLACES IN THE HEART

    Dallas area

    THE LONG HOT SUMMER

    Marshall, East Texas

    SOUTHERN COMFORT

    Caddo Lake

    PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE

    San Antonio

    THE LONG RIDERS

    Palestine / Rusk

    MIDDLE AGE CRAZY

    Houston, Dallas

    URBAN COWBOY

    Houston, Pasadena

    THE BERMUDA TRIANGLE

    Houston area, Harlingen, Brownsville

    CENTENNIAL

    Brackettville, Del Rio

    COTTON CANDY

    Dallas

    THE BAD NEWS BEARS IN

    BREAKING TRAINING

    Houston, El Paso

    BIG WEDNESDAY

    El Paso

    SEMI-TOUGH

    Dallas

    SHE CAME TO

    THE VALLEY

    Mission

    THE SWARM

    Houston

    FUTUREWORLD

    Houston

    LOGAN'S RUN

    1975, Dallas / Fort Worth, Houston

    BENJI

    1973, McKinney

    SUGARLAND EXPRESS

    1973, San Antonio,

    THE LEGEND OF BOGGY CREEK

    1972, Texarkana

    THE THIEF WHO CAME TO DINNER

    972, Houston

    THE LAST PICTURE SHOW

    1971, Archer City

    THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN

    1970, Shafter

    BREWSTER MCCLOUD

    1970, Houston

    HELLFIGHTERS

    1969, Houston area


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Bozyslawa profile image

Bozyslawa  says:
2 years ago

Well, what a gold-mine of help and info, i am so thankful! just imagine what you could do if you ventured outside Texas!

if you would be so kind, could you pleasae help me a bit with working out how to find suitable and copiable photos and amazon items - i have not succeeded in making it work by myself, even when trying to follow HELP steps, just a bit slow, i suppose!

do you like my hubs? i love yours!

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J D Murrah  says:
2 years ago

Bozyslawa,

Thank you for your kind words. I have enjoyed your hubs, although I am more intrigued by the thought provoking questions you ask. In terms of how to work the photo issue, you might want to start with Wikipedia. Look for photos in the public domain. The article on the subject has some sites that have many photos. Once I find photos that I like, I use photoshop on them. Since I am still learning photoshop, some of the photos are still not where I want them to be.

On the Amazon items, click on the module. Once it is in place, I play with the tabs. I often limit the selection to books or movies categories I am focused on. Once I have made that limitation, then I do a keyword search for a particular topic. There are often a few items that I did not want, but I figure it may help with exposure and possible sales. Let me know it this helps.

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Bozyslawa  says:
2 years ago

Sorry i took so long to reply and show my appreciation - too many things on my back, like a monkey grab.

It feels great to receive such thorough reply and willing help from you. I am not sure to what degree i will be able to follow your advice, and so it is most encouraging to know i can always get back to you for more friendly help!

thanks for being such a nice person and a good remote friend.

all my questions are "loaded" and part of my reasearch either into my lectures or workshops, or planned works or chapters in my book. Peaople are such a mine of incredible sources of information, thought, inteligence, creativity, one can find gold nuggets in the least expected places. i really take my hat off to all the unsung heroes of research, creativity, inspiration and ingenuity that the hubbers provide with so much enthusiasm.

what do you think i could do with my hubs to make them more appealing? your opinion would be deeply valued.

thanks again, Bozyslawa

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J D Murrah  says:
2 years ago

Boyzyslawa,

I have enjoyed your hubs about stories, nightmares, etc. I find myself struggling with the loaded questions for hub requests though. I started writing a response to the legal history of slavery, but stopped when it became several pages long. I could have written hubs on Slavery laws in the Holy Roman Empire, Slavery in Scotland, Roman Slavery Laws, The legal dangers of abolitionsism, Modern Slavery and Religion, Mesoamerican Slavery Customs, etc. The presupposition you put on it regarding Christian beliefs twisted everything around. It is almost as if you are fishing for a pre-determined outcome. So in terms of feedback, it would help if there was more focus in the requests and less extreme loading of presuppositions. Going with the movie themes and best movies that convey particular ideas was a good theme. People enjoy things like that. Somehing that would combine ideas is what jokes people use to convey paraticular themes (suffering, punishment, philandering, etc.). It deals with a heavy topic in a light hearted manner.

I hope this helps,

Jeff Murrah

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Bozyslawa  says:
2 years ago

Jeff, i am indeed "fishing" for help on the idea of what makes one person feel superior to another - which is an ever present problem. Today, people feel "better" than others for all sorts of reasons, but i actually wanted to see the extreme of it, that is, what makes one person feel entitled and within some kind of a 'RIGHT' to enslave another. It is really never done lightly, there is always a philosophy or law or religion behind it. And it is that part that fascinates me - the point at which something that is just a vice, a fault in character, becomes legalised and sanctified as the law, that is, how does malice, emptiness, selfishness, greed become legitimised.

So i am fishing for the laws that allowed slavery - and the conditions, that is, religious beliefs which supported and allowed malice and greed to be elevated to something one can be proud of - like owning a hundred slaves or so and feel "good" "rich" "good" Christian" etc.

Can you see my point?

OK, so this is the serious part of me, the child with the endless "why?" questions and i so much hope to find company for this pursuit.

Have you seen the movie "AMISTAD"? It poses the questions about who can be considered human or not, and who can own whom. What do you think?

i will definitely take up your suggestion about lightening up my themes and am most grateful for the trouble you took to analyse my style.

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J D Murrah  says:
2 years ago

Bozyslawa,

I have not seen Amistad. So I can not address that.

In terms of the origin of the laws regarding slavery, in western civilization, you have to consider the origin of legal systems. Since Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam cite the source of their legal system as their Supreme Diety, that is the source. The same is true of many mesoamerican belief systems. Since I do not know about other Eastern or Oriental systems I can not speak to them. I am puzzled by your focus on Christianity when slavery still continues in Sudan, Mali and other largely Islamic nations and it was the Islamic slave traders that sold many people into the African slave trade or the New England slave traders who owned the slaving ships used in United States. There is also how the English justified thier enslavement of the Irish and Scottish populace.

Since I am not an expert, I can only offer my observations. In addressing the morality of the issue, slavery was often a punishment. At other times it was a consequence of bad choices, or even loosing a war. Even in modern culture, financial bondage related to bad choices continues although it is not called that.

Even the penal system holds to the idea of 'ownership' to some degres. The criminal asserted they were superior to the legal system or another person in committing a crime and then they have to endure the consequences of losing their freedom in order to protect society from further travesties.

As to one person thinking they are superior to others, that is a trait within mankind. Most families, cultures, religions and nations believe they are superior and have a superior way of life to 'others'. Problems arise when the dominant culture in a nation changes and there is a rivalry or contest over which culture will dominate. History is filled with records of cultures vying for domination with each sincerily believing their way was superior. Even when they forced their culture on others, it was justified by saying, it was "in their best interest."

Within the area of history I have studied, the slave owner only had a right to the labor of the slave, not to the body, etc. of the slave. There was also a responsibility for the clothing, feeding, shelter and care of the slaves. Some legal systems gave the owner rights to the slave in terms of their body and life.

I hope this helps.

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Bozyslawa  says:
2 years ago

I am focusing on Christian approach to slavery, because that is the one i know and understand. I am fascinated by the angle of human rights and slavery, whereby the "right" to own another person could only be justified on religious grounds, that is, by alleging that the other, "different" people were not exactly people, not equal, and in fact, it was alleged by the Christians that the "others" had not possessed a "soul" and therefore could not be "God's children" and therefore were in between humans and animals, and could be treated as such.

it is the issue of alleged "superiority" of one human over another and the grounds on which such claims are made that interests me. That is, not the actual issue of slavery, but the philosophy behind it.

Breanna Poepetter  says:
10 months ago

While ya'll are getting philasophical. I just wanted to share how much I loved Robocop. I use to love that show as a kid in the 80's. I can still watch the movies over and over till this day! Anyway, carry on!

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J D Murrah  says:
10 months ago

Breanna,

Thank you for your input. The Robocop series was definitely one focused on revenge. The whole storyline about his transformation to half machine is an excelent metaphor for revenge.

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