ADVICE TO YOUTH - 1 : What advice would you give to an inexperienced young man?

Advice to Youth 1

“Go West Young Man” has already been done, so if one is to give Advice to Youth one must try to think up ways and means to keep Youth from falling asleep during the advice giving process.

So, Young Man, the magic word for you today is “Women”. This should be a subject that must hopefully stir your youthful interest, so I shall try to give you advice on how to avoid falling foul of the fairer sex. Hopefully, this fatherly advice will help you avoid the many pitfalls awaiting you in your future relationships.

I shall address this important issue by using random imaginary (and I underline imaginary) examples, so that my advice to you is easily comprehensible:

1. Should you find yourself in a mountain cabin for an illicit weekend with a married woman and should you then be stung on the finger by the scorpion which for some reason decides to holiday on the shower curtain you try to set aside coming out of the shower, it is essential to observe the necessary manly decorum. The excruciating pain you will feel does not necessarily mean death for you, despite all indications to the contrary. As you shall be unable to drive, since your eyes shall be tightly shut in your attempt to avoid screaming at the top of your lungs thereby making a daft prick of yourself in the eyes of the married woman you have been after for months, your weekend life’s passion shall have to drive you the five miles to the nearest doctor. After injecting you with a strong painkiller, which will have no apparent affect whatsoever on the intensity of your pain, the doctor will assure you that since you made it to his surgery alive, then you are unlikely to die, because scorpion poison is injected directly into the blood stream and, had it been a deadly quantity, he would now be looking at your corpse, instead of having a pleasant conversation with your lovely friend, who had courageously driven you through the difficult mountain roads to bring you to him. And what a fortuitous thing it was that gave him the opportunity to meet such a lovely woman in the middle of nowhere and please take my card in case there is a relapse and she needs to call him.

2. When you get back to the cabin, you would expect some peace and quiet in order to recuperate from your ordeal, provided of course that the pain will ease for even a minute to allow you to fall into exhausted and blessed sleep. No such luck. Your weekend friend, let’s call her Jane for argument’s sake, had outmanoeuvred her husband to spend an illicit weekend with you and an illicit weekend she is going to have, irrespective of minor obstacles such as poisonous scorpions. Do not be fooled by the Florence Nightingale look she is trying to project as she lies next to you on your bed of indescribably unbearable pain. You will at first be grateful for the tender kisses Jane rains on you, but when she starts unbuttoning your shirt in order to take your clothes off “to make you feel more comfortable”, begin to prepare yourself for the worst. There is one advantage to this agonizing ordeal though. Up to now, you have manfully managed to stop yourself from writhing in agony and embarrassing yourself in female eyes. Now, as she begins to mercilessly and passionately take possession of your poor haggard body, you can writhe in pain to your heart’s content and it shall be misconstrued as the passionate response of an accomplished and worthwhile lover, instead of the expression of agony which it is in reality. From that day on your reputation shall be made and Jane shall be at your beck and call. Hence the need for the manly decorum referred to above.

3. When your soon-to-be-divorced wife suggests to you that her recently divorced friend Lucy would make a good partner in a manage-a-troi, if that is the correct spelling of this worthy sport, do not appear to think that all your Christmases have come at once. Even though Lucy might be a sex-bomb-incarnate, show some indifferent reserve. Pretend that you care how such an intimate relationship might affect your own bond with her, your wife. If you respond with an enthusiastic rebel yell, your chances of tasting paradise, without actually going through an expensive Viking style funeral ,shall sail off into the sunset without much chance of a resurrection, at least with the God-like Lucy. The more doubts you raise, the more your ex-wife will insist on experimenting with Lucy.

4. Despite the pretzel like format of the actual event, you may be sure that your ex wife will be keeping the corner of her eye on you at all times. Women have this uncanny ability to visually see what is happening around them, apparently beyond their peripheral vision. Any act of yours towards Lucy which is not that of raw sex, you shall have to pay for dearly later on. No tenderness or affection in any form will be allowed.

5. There will be times when Lucy will end up facing you and the head of your ex being otherwise occupied out of sight, the temptation of both is to kiss. I would strongly discourage you form this. Though kissing between the girls appears to be OK, any resulting kissing sound between yourself and Lucy shall have to be explained in detail later on and shall bear serious consequences when you are alone with your ex wife.

6. When months later your ex-wife catches you in ‘flagrante delicto’ alone with Lucy in what you naively thought was a secret hide-away, she will not consider it sporting, and you shall be guilty of ruining a life-long friendship between the two girls, as ne’er the twain again shall meet.

7. When you separate from your wife, you shall be amazed at the number of sisters of mercy who will volunteer to make your life easier in all possible ways. This is the time to give in to your irresistible need to have a custom made bed created to your own design, able to accommodate three comfortably.

8. Enjoy this period as much as you can, because eventually you will find the Right One and you will have to put all this nonsense behind you, feeling superior to all those pathetic lechers who waste their time with a different woman every day.

9. Your ex wife and your ex girlfriends will systematically hound you during this period, inventing various excuses to set foot in your house in order to spoil any relationship you have ongoing at the time. Be strong and do not open the door.

10. Your ex wife will systematically scratch and damage the cars belonging to your girlfriends, so train the girlfriends to park further away and walk a little. The exercise will do them good and you will not be honour bound to keep paying for the damages.

11. During this period a number of your past secretaries will call on you at your residence to offer their sympathies for your separation and will usually bring food with them. Ex secretaries are good pastimes during dry periods.

12. When the reigning Miss Nicaragua expresses a wish to visit you at your apartment, make sure that the apartment is in a decent state of tidiness and that the bed does not look like a battlefield of the Hundred Years War, otherwise she will walk out on you in obvious distress. You will be able to actually see doubts about you forming on her beautiful brow, as if she could not believe that YOU were ‘that kind of man’. When she invites you to her own apartment as an alternative venue for what she has in mind, do not fall asleep on her carpet before anything has a chance to properly develop. She will not be used to such a cavalier treatment and will not want to see you again.

13. If a woman looses control of herself and lets herself go in acts and deeds that even you thought a bit racy and overly adventurous, do not try to comfort her with words when she starts crying after she is through with you. If you tell her that she should not feel embarrassed because all women behave like this, in some insane way she will feel that you were somehow unfaithful to her with someone else, even though you just met her in the dentist waiting room.

14. Always remember that women are insane. Mothers instinctively drop their female offspring head first on a hard surface immediately after birth, in order to ensure uniformity in female behaviour. In consequence, you will often be told insane theories and be asked whether you agree. NEVER disagree.

15. Women like to talk. Cultivate your acting skills and pretend to be listening and create your own response style. Learn to look at her with rapturous interest while she is talking, even though at the same time you are running through your mind the minutest details of last night’s poker game, to see what exactly went wrong with that pocket pair of aces you went all-in with. Train yourself to occasionally nod while she is speaking and even better, throw in the occasional “really” and “that sounds interesting”. Use whatever else is part of your vocabulary with your male friends when they are actually talking sense.

16. Flowers are a cheap way out of trouble. Women have this inscrutably insane thing about flowers and if you are smart enough to remember this and to occasionally show up with a bunch when it is not expected of you, you’ve got it made.

17. After making love, make a bet with yourself that you can stay awake for at least ten minutes during which you will hug your girlfriend and show her the tenderness women appear to need at this stage. Promise yourself that you will take yourself fishing if you actually manage this feat. Staying awake at this time is the hardest part, so whenever you succeed in this, you must actually keep your promise to reward yourself, otherwise the ensuing lack of trust will cause the system to fail. If you manage this, women will consider you to be a God and they will do anything for you.

18. For economy’s sake, always buy your toothbrushes wholesale, but make sure that they are individually wrapped. Display at least one (unopened) in your bathroom next to yours. The reason is simple. Women feel that because they have made love to you in the usual miscellany of ways, they can afterwards use your own toothbrush to brush their teeth with. Don’t ask me why because I have never been able to understand this idiosyncrasy. If they do not take the hint to use the individually wrapped, unused toothbrush clearly displayed for even the most shortsighted female and familiarly and chummily use your own, then throw the used toothbrush away and replace it with a new one. Make sure that she does not see you do this.

19. For some strange reason, a lot of women want to become members of the mile high club. You should only attempt this on long distance flights to the Far East and only in business class. There is a time during these flights when everyone is asleep. Blankets are provided by the crew for the purpose.

20. Eventually, you will meet a Goddess-in-Human-Shape who will be intelligent, caring, loving, tender and who will refuse your nonsense and will have her own boundaries and limitations. You will marry her and will be strangely happy for the first time in your life.

Part 2 shall follow in due course…

Dimitris Mita

De Greek


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creativeone59 7 years ago from Gold Canyon, Arizona

Thank you for a very informative and interesting hub for youths. thank you for sharing it. Godspeed. creativeone59

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lisadpreston 7 years ago from Columbus, Ohio

This is cute. I like your writing style, and it is good advice.

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Feline Prophet 7 years ago from India

Aha, is this the voice of experience? Oh wait, you said it was all imaginary!! :P

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

One has to use some measure of imagination if one is to help the Youth of this world :-)

And PLEEEEEASE add your own advice to youth here!!!!!

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Lee B 6 years ago from New Mexico

Wellllll, a writer I admired once told me that though most of his work was based on true events, he had to sell it as fiction because no one would buy (neither literally nor figuratively) it as nonfiction.

Be that as it may, I must say that we waste our time giving advice to youth. Remember what older people told us that we ignored and only now realize that if we had taken that advice, we would be in far better circumstances.

Your advice can only be appreciated by those of us who have lived a bit and know how to laugh. I sure enjoyed reading your hub!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Many thanks! As long as you understand that it is all done tongue-in-cheek and there is no disrespect meant to women..... Naturally this is not serious advice. Some people thought it a bit too much and they might be right. Others sent me nice comments. It would be nice if you could comment here with advice yourself, form the woman's point of view, making fun of what I said. What do you say? :-)

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glassvisage 6 years ago from Northern California

This is quite a set of tips! :) Definitely tongue-in-cheek. Do you have sons to pass this on to? Ha! Thanks!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Thank you for being kind enough to read this nonsence and to comment. :-))

I thought that by writing a seriously exaggerated, insanely extreme, male point of view, I might inspire a female response in the same train of thought, plus encourage other men to make complete idiots of themselves, as I did :-))

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manlypoetryman 6 years ago from (Texas !) Boldly Writing Poems Where No Man Has Gone Before...

Seriously...My mind went completely blank on any additional you have asked from the I am laughing at some of your key points to younger men. I hope that younger ones would heed the advice of the older ones...but I say that tongue-in-cheek myself...because I once-were-one! Let me see if I can pull one tidbit of advice out of the top of my head...anyways. ( no means equal to the stated words of advice of De Greek):

"Should you happen to ever get fed-up with your spouses/ and or girlfriends uncanny ability to tell it "like it is" to you at any given not feel like you are entitled to do so in like manner...or a war will ensue of indescribable measure...of which you will always lose. So...just skip it...and go directly to buy De Greek has stated. In fact...just go buy flowers anyways right now...for anything you've done, thought about doing, or were about to do...just to be on the safe side...Ha!"

But...more than anything enjoy the company of the one you love...for all your days. One of life's greatest blessings! Great and Humorous Hub, De Greek.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Manlypoetryman, many, many thanks for going with the flow and contributing to the list this insane "advice" series..... :-))) It would be really nice if women will also contribute and tell it how it is from their own point of view, because we men really specialise in screwing up.... :-))

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jcwin228 6 years ago from Yonago, Japan

Married Men of The World,

If you happen to find yourself at a Halloween party with your buddies and in the absence of your wife, and with one or more pretty girls hanging on you because they think your Dracula costume is so debonair, and if you believe that you can get away with a little hanky panky thinking you might be easily forgiven because it was a party and you were drunk anyway, THINK AGAIN. Even if your faithful wife isn’t watching, God IS! He will cause you to trip on your cape walking home from the party and cut open your chin on the sidewalk. You will then be put in the awkward position of begging your wife, not to mention waking up your children and take you to the emergency room at 5:00 a.m. and get 5 or more stitches. The resulting scar will forever be a reminder of your foolhardiness.

Always a pleasure Dimitris

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

I cannot stop laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Thank you, thank you, thank you, for getting into the spirit of things :-)))

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Gypsy Willow 6 years ago from Lake Tahoe Nevada USA , Wales UK and Taupo New Zealand

Hi De, I enjoyed the hub but it rang too true, are you sure it was imaginary? my advice to my sons was always that if you are tempted to enter any foolhardiness by any wayward wench, remember the date!!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Senility having firmly set in with me for some time now, I have missed the point. What date? :-)

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Gypsy Willow 6 years ago from Lake Tahoe Nevada USA , Wales UK and Taupo New Zealand

The date of the indiscretion, may save the expense of a paternity DNA test!

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_cheryl_ 6 years ago from California

This is hilarious! Very much enjoyed reading your work with this hub...though I can't think of much to add to your entertaing advice, here are a couple that come to mind:

While waiting for her to get dressed for a night out, though tempting to ask "are you ready yet?" for the 20th time, just don't and possibly not ask at all...or you'll be planting a seed of frustration for the night, plus it'll end up being you're fault if she's not happy with her outfit, hair, shoes, mood, etc. simply because you "rushed" her for the last 2 HOURS of "getting ready"! lol!

Always have your gas tank full on date nights, having her help you push your pretty little truck out of the middle of the intersection may result in the loss of date number 2!

Never, never, never assume! If you think a lady is pregnant, but not sure....better to not address that subject at all- there's no bouncing back from asking "how far along are you?" when it doesn't apply to her at all...

Can't wait to read part 2! =)

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Cheryl how could I have left out

those????? :-)))

Wonderful!!! Thank you very much for your contribution and I hope that you will add more when they come to you :-))

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Gypsy Willow: Thank you for your contribution Angel Face. Admittedly that part did not come to mind, possibly because of my advanced years. We tend to write on the basis of (in this case) other peoples' experiences at the period described. So, first there was no DNA when I was young and at my current age, the woman would have to be over 55 and at that age holding her belly while looking at one accusingly somehow does not convince, so this did not become part of the advice to Youth. :-)) Plwease feel free to add your own advice here... :-)

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sunflowerbucky 6 years ago from Small Town, USA

Young ladies: when your manly hunk o husband steps on the scale for his life insurance exam, and notices the number is about 30 pounds higher than usual,and he says,"Wait, that can't be right! There's something wrong with this scale!" DO NOT, Under Any Circumstances, say to him, "It was right when I was on it, I lost 30 pounds!". Also, when he says it is is your fault because you feed him so well, DO NOT say to him, "I am fattening you up so I will look thinner." Instead of those things (which were wired into your brain when your mom dropped you on your head as an infant), say to him, "I'm pretty sure that's 30 pounds of muscle! You know muscle weighs more than fat, right?"

If you marry a man who is much older than you, (which you likely will since men mature slowly, therefore all of the men your age will still be playing with tinker toys when you are bra shopping), do not say things like "Oh really? I don't remember that. It must have happened before I was born." Do NOT point out that his chest hairs are turning gray. Pretend you do not see them.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

This is too painful!!! I can't stop laughing!!! Sun, you are too good at this :-)))))))

Mooooooooooooore!!!!!!! :-)))

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tonymac04 6 years ago from South Africa

I can't rise (?) to the heights (LOL) some of the previous commenters rose to so I'll just say, thanks for the giggle. I really enjoyed it!

Love and peace


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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Tony, you are too modest, I am sure! :-))

But thank you for taking the trouble to read and to commnet :-)

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Zsuzsy Bee 6 years ago from Ontario/Canada

What more can be said...? This was a fun read. I can always use a good laugh thank you

kindest regards Zsuzsy

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Praise from a Master such as yourself! You have made my day. Thank you .. :-)

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IzzyM 6 years ago from UK

Loved reading this - very funny and uncannily accurate in a lot of situations! Yeah we love the cuddle afterwards, but men are programmed to go to sleep! And my bum never looks big in this, no matter how many times I ask.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

It's all by heresay of course :-)

Thank you for commenting, child. I very much appreciate it..

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Merlin Fraser 6 years ago from Cotswold Hills

Don't know about this being advice to a youth... seems pretty good advice to guys of any age !

To add to the advice from friendly writers I was once told the difference between truth and fiction is that fiction needs to be believable!

The other thing is that before you can write you have to have lived; seems you have so carry on bringing sunshine to a dull world.

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Merlin Fraser 6 years ago from Cotswold Hills

The trouble with me is I’m just too damned honest for my own good.

So as my naked wife stands before the bathroom mirror bemoaning the fact that gravity is winning over muscle in all of her important little places it was up to me to say something; anything that would ensure the continued comforts of marriage ; cooked meals, clean underwear, sex on my birthday.... But nope; call it a senior moment but I suffered complete brain fade.

With her mood sinking fast; she starts looking closer at her face as she holds her wet, limp hair streaks of telltale grey show through. Wrinkles seem deeper in the hash bathroom spot lights; “Look at me she wails, everything is heading south, my face is starting to look like an elephants backside; say something nice to help me feel better !”

“Well dearest; at least there’s nothing wrong with your eyesight !”

The doctors tell me I’m nearly ready for solid food once more; but I will be in traction for some time yet !

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :-))))))))))))))

I cannot believe that anyone would be that dumb, but I then again I hope to God that I am wrong!!!!! :-))))


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Green Lotus 6 years ago from Atlanta, GA

What? "a seriously exaggerated, insanely extreme, male point of view". Rubbish. You are right on the money and your son (and your wife) are lucky to have you!

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS

What a delightful put-on. For a moment I thought I was reading a new chapter of Les Liasons Dangereuses. As for additional advice to inexperienced young guys, perhaps a "cougar" in his sites might be a wise choice for gaining priceless experience. She would surely wise him up and also help him avoid making the fatal error of underestimating the fairer sex. ;)

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Green Lotus, how kind… Such comments from a talented author such as yourself are gratifying to say the least. Thank you for taking the trouble to visit and to comment. I am your fan since I came across your site and I am now a regular visitor, trying to plagiarise you :-)

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Hi there Nellianna! Nice to see you girl. And perhaps you are right. We should try to fix him up with a cougar, as long as he is not eaten up :-)))

Thank you for stopping by and I look forward to seing your captivating face here often... :-)

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Nellieanna 6 years ago from TEXAS

Thank you, De Greek. Perhaps when the cougar gets done with him, so long as he remains uneaten, he can give his mentor useful advice!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

In truth, Angel Face, I am cursed because I must learn from other people's experiences, as I do not have any of my own to brag about. Being a sensitive flower, I am shy and cannot create relashionships...

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Dolores Monet 6 years ago from East Coast, United States

What a superior read! You are such an entertaining writer and have a special way with words. I enjoyed this immensely.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Dolores, how kind you are! Many thanks. Coming from someone like you this means a lot to me... Delusions of literacy... :-))))

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Property-Invest 6 years ago from London

De Greek. I will never forget this hub, thanks so much. How refreshing. Yes, I'd picked up that one before..."never forget women are insane"!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

How kind you are P-I. I hope that your wife can also smile in spirit...:-)

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lmmartin 6 years ago from Alberta and Florida

I think any response that does justice to this challenge needs to be done in hub form. Once I'm feeling better, I'll get to work on it.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Immartin, just get well soon. But I can't wait for you to write the hub, so let me know when you do :-)

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ladyjane1 6 years ago from Texas

Very entertaining De Greek and beautifully articulated. I actually remember when my mother dropped me on my head, I was a toddler and was sitting on her lap she wasn't holding on to me and I went straight forward I was fine didn't require any stitches and it actually made me smarter than the average bear because I don't yell at my husband when he doesn't take out the trash, I don't yell at my husband when he leaves his stinky socks everywhere and I dont burst his bubble when he comes out of the bathroom naked looking like a stud and I pretend not to notice that he has a sliver of toilet paper sticking out of his sexy toilet paper. And I pretend to not notice when he farts. Cheers.

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

So you were a toddler when it happenned eh? A late starter then? I must have words with your mom, because the custom as I understand it is to do the "head dropping on a hard surface" bit immediately after birth. I hope that this shameful delay ahs not caused you any permanent harm?

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BJBenson 6 years ago from USA

I THINK YOU ARE JUST TOO FUNNY. This tired old woman hates to give advice to the young. They need to go out in the world like I did and raise a little hell. Hope that they learn from all the mistakes they make.

But of course I forget my own rule sometimes and do give out some information from personal experience.

But I'm just too ill today to be witty. So you must do it for me,De Greek. Thank you for another wonder hub.

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Pam Roberson 6 years ago from Virginia

How I admire the fact that a sensitive flower such as yourself can record the experiences of men so objectively for us to learn. Oh the sacrifices an artist will make! :)

Now, how did you know about this head banging ritual for girls? It's true! My mother also dropped me on my head as an infant. She claims to have slipped on ice which caused me to fly from her arms and land on my head on a rock.

About this game you men play when you pretend to be listening while we talk...we know what you're doing, and you're not getting anything over on us. All the head nods and little manly tid bit phrases mean nothing more to us than clues that it's time to go in for the's time to start talking about the important things that we'll hang you with later and we may even have you scribble your name on an important document or two while your eyes are glazed over thinking about that stupid poker game. Oh yes, while you all are nodding and thinking about other things, we're studying you and feeding your subconcious with important issues that will be discussed later and followed up with documents (in triplicate with your signature)! :)

Oh, and about hugging afterwards, um, we just want you to go fishing so we can go shopping. :)

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Amateur! :-)))

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Pam Roberson 6 years ago from Virginia

Ha! :D

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okmom23 6 years ago from Midwest, U.S.A.

Immensely entertaining! Your writing style is extremely creative and I look forward to reading all of your articles. As far as answering your question, I agree with all of the advice given to you. Great hub!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Thanks, okmom23. Someone with a sense of humour at last :-)))

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nell79 6 years ago from United States

Great sense of humor and style here! You had me start-to-finish haha! And this is all made up, eh? Hmmmmm.....LOL

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Hi Nell. Yes, it's all theory :-))

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Ladybird33 6 years ago from Georgia USA

Hi De Greek, this is a great hub! Love the idea and you wrote it so well! Thanks for the hub karma...much appreciated! Hope you are well!

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De Greek 6 years ago from UK Author

Glad you liked it Ladybird, thank you :-)

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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

This is a superb Hub De greek! The writing style is refreshing. You had me rolling on the floor laughing.

...Young man, when you are sitting at the bar and a beautiful rich young woman walks over to you and casually hands you $600.00 dollars and a little bag of her favorite drug, and says "would you hold this for me while I dance" wait till she is distracted and then immediately toss the bag on the bar and leave post haste. If you don't you will forever regret it!

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De Greek 4 years ago from UK Author

Yes, but do you keep the $600, Curia? ;-)))

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