Decoding My damn HubPages Score

Algorithm: Definition

"'a set of rules that precisely defines a sequence of operations.' For some people, a program is only an algorithm if it stops eventually; for others, a program is only an algorithm if it stops before a given number of calculation steps."

Source: Wikipedia

Was up last night and walking like a zombie for drinking too much coffee and then it struck my head like a lightning bolt . Didn't say Eureka like Archimedes. I said: Yo! like Kelly RealHouseWife. I said to myself: Heck no! I'm too tired to write about this sickening scoring, and who cares anyway? Enough with my harp to write some poetry...!

Joining HubPages was like a blessing for many of us. We came from different backgrounds and we found friends with similar goals. But most were talking about this 'gnome' called scoring and its overnight activity,either affecting us or coming to the rescue. Some people, like the older hubbers, always did say that scoring was of not importance. "Just write rich content hubs and avoid being banned."

Would you leave me alone HP?
Would you leave me alone HP? | Source

The algorithm

What is an algorithm, roughly? We don't want to introduce a class in programming in here and get, or sound too complicated. We are not Melbel or Alocsin(jocking) For every action there is a reaction, right? You go to a laundry and want to get quarters from a five dollar bill. Or you just want to go to your local ATM machine and get those 400 dollars to buy groceries and pay the Nannie that was fuming yesterday. Mathematicians created basic algorithms that with a set of instructions will deliver eventually an output. The input would mean the feeding to the instructions. A flowchart would make decisions(IF, YES, NO) and come up with a final output. The ATM will read your Card and will decide if you are the owner, waiting for the next decision making instruction: Enter your PIN. Apparently easy, right? (If, go to, then, loop)

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HubPages

From the beginning, the founders from HP, had this idea of publishing. Paul Edmondson(developer from Hewlett Packard and MSN) and others, had the experience from 'MongoMusic,' which merged with MSN music in 2000. Behind the scenes, they knew about blogging and revenues and search engines. Google was coming up with its AdSense revenue program as well.

All seemed to be perfect and a way of making money was born. The idea was not too bad for any of us. We were around the Internet since 1994 and heard about publishing and Magazines, but a hub? Here they come...programmers to the rescue!! Software Engineers including Paul Deeds, who was responsible for the code base at MongoMusic, and Jay Reitz, tuned up the website and got it going. In the beginning was like a simple page with no input at all, or commentingl. You would come and see an article for days. Just imagine your own blog. Two or three curious commenting on your piece...of art. But the place grew up little by little; and, of course, the first 'cat fight' was born.

Breaking down the algorithm...

The formula came to us like an Easter basket. You look at it and look through those eggs. Yeah, some were already smashed, but nothing is free in life. Here is the formula broken down to the average hubber. Is not an Equation, but is this kind of formula that integrates the numbers associated with the final score. The Score is set by the number of hubs published. Several variables are included. What they told you about visiting the forums and write rich-content and original hubs was right... I see team HP reading us too. Hi Simone!!

S= S/N + V2RCB ± V1 FP ± V2 RC + AC ± %RF ± PCB ±GP

S= Scoring

S/N= Individual scoring of a hub divided by the number of published hubs

RCB= Rich Content Bonus

FP= Forum Participation

RC= Rich engaging answer to a comment: good, bad, poor?

AC= Accolades Bonus.

PCB= Publishing Continuity Bonus: 3 per week? Yes, no?

%RF= Following Ratio = Commenting on hubs that you follow/ Total of hubs you Follow and 'do not comment on.'

V1= Variable from forum participation.

V2 = Variable set by moderators(spelling, grammar, punctuation)

GP= Follow or no follow variable set by Panda. Google will review(crawl) rich content and number of hits.

± = negative or positve

This is our personal view of the algorithm. The real formula is way too complicated, including vectors and statistical variables, and also functions inside this c++ language, that get this gnomes to work. Actually we do not need spammers to know the real formula. We keep it like that!

According to Paul Deeds the Ultimate score is based eventually on traffic. Here is the breakdown:

SCORE---(pages views a month)

96-100 - 99.9 percentile (3000 page views a month)
91-95 - 99.3 percentile (2200 page views a month)
86-90 - 97.7 percentile (1300 page views a month)
81-85 - 94th percentile (900 page views a month)
76-80 - 88th percentile (90 page views a month)
71-75 - 78th percentile (30 page views a month)

Hope this can help our new Hubbers and ourselves.

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JamesPoppell 4 years ago

I think the picture of the guy screaming at the laptop says it all, ha ha. In all seriousness, this hub was useful in that I now understand the variables involved when my activity is calculated. I also like the video with Simone regarding the Q & A section. Very helpful. Thank you for posting this. Vote up.


Dan Sanders 4 years ago

All I can say is "it's better to write for yourself and have no audience than to write for an audience and have no self."


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Eiddwen 4 years ago from Wales

A very useful hub lord;thanks for sharing.

Eddy.


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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

This was brill lord de cross as even I understand what your saying here. My brain dont work properly lol :)


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Kris Heeter 4 years ago from Indiana

All these "+" and "-"s and variables gave me math class flashbacks (aka nightmares) - LOL. Joking aside, this was useful!


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PurvisBobbi44 4 years ago from Florida

Lord,

As always I learn from you, and I will need to come back and read it again---I have Sweetie Angel in my lap giving me kisses.

I voted up, awesone and useful.

Bobbi


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thesingernurse 4 years ago from Rizal, Philippines

This is very helpful Lord... Fun and amusing too (AS ALWAYS!). :D However, this hub of yours made me realize even more that I will never be good in variables. Hahahaha!

Voted up and sharing!


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LaThing 4 years ago from From a World Within, USA

Brilliant! Enjoyed it thoroughly ...... Great hub!


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Marcy Goodfleisch 4 years ago from Planet Earth

Well, the math formula is beyond my capability, but the list of criteria and the information you gave is invaluable! Thanks for unraveling part of the knotty yarn about this mystery score! Voted up, interesting and useful. And bookmarked (trust me, I'll need it!).


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SonQuioey10 4 years ago from Williamston NC

Impressive. Great Hub.


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catalystsnstars 4 years ago from Land of Nod

Your overall score is really based on the view per month? If that's the case, I should have more views. I have to wonder if it's based on increase.

I'm not sure how to explain what I'm asking actually, but thanks for the hub. While reading it, I kept wondering if this was top I for you were "leaking". :)


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FloraBreenRobison 4 years ago

This is very helpful for a person who is really curious about this. You have to have a certain number of hubs published for that ratio to work out, which probably explains why, no matter how well you write, you don't debut on HP above the magic 76, often much lower. I think I remember starting out around 55?

Some people with only a couple hubs can get what is quite a high school for such a low number of hubs. This also explains that.


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tammyswallow 4 years ago from North Carolina

Only you would come up with the formula. I must go back and add reason 102 as to why you are so AWESOME! Thanks for sharing this. May epsilon always equal zero my friend.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Jamespoppel,

Thanks for commenting.Being Honest, first time seeing you around. Glad you enjoyed the hub, and happy hubbing!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Dan Sanders! Great quote! I'll keep that in mind.

LORD

Hi Eddy: This is a formula that tried to sum up all the sub-scorings involved in the computation. The real thing is just write original stuff, and the rest will follow.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Calpol25,

Actually you were the originator of this hub. We made a comment on FB, and you made us laugh. Great imagination as well... thnaks for stopping by!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

You are funny Kris Heeter,

Math was on our side to write this article and we added some fun twist to it. Thanks for the chuckles.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

PurvisBobbi44,

Thanks for that sweet comment. I guess Angel wanted to make a comment with his paw. Take care, and don't worry about the formula. Just write your nices Journals and your charming pieces of inspiration.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Singing Nurse,

You have such a nice smile and that's a bonus on the real formula. Happy to see you around and commenting on this hub. Don't look at it for 5 minutes or more. Your brain will go back to the beginning. I know the feeling.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi there in CT, LAthing,

You are a programmer analyst, so if you enjoyed it... we feel acomplished. I know the people at HP are getting the kick out of this hub. Take care!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Marcia Goodfleish,

I trust you. I don't trust people at Congress. We tried to break it down for you guys. Certain scripting or java terminology were out of the question. Besides this is a generic formula. Thanks again!!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

SONQUIOEY10, Thanks for your words of appreciation, your comments are always welcome.

LORD

Cathalistsnstars,

The more views, your score is higher, but all the score goes with the tide of variables. You have a wonderful week!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Yes Flora,

2 HUBS at as core above 87, will certainly give you a hig score

87+3+4+5=99

But we don't fool ourselves with the score; Your adsense revenue will depend on the clicks from 2 hubs, that will be around the 3 bucks a month, if they make it above 75.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Tammy,

Epsilon=0?? Lol! The idea was to recreate a formula 'spreading' this sheet of variables in an easy way to understand. There are some hubbers that love hang around the Forums, that will give them the extra 3 points to make up for the day. Some rather write a hub or 2 and stay at an aceptable scoring. Take care Tammy!

LORD


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cclitgirl 4 years ago from Western NC

Very interesting formula you have here, Lord. I like it though. :) Voted up and funny.


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raciniwa 4 years ago from Naga City, Cebu

uh, uh...the mathematical figures elude me...it's interesting to know how they do it though...grand work Mighty lord...


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Millionaire Tips 4 years ago from USA

It is an interesting formula, and I agree that those variables are all in the formula. I have also heard that staying away from HP also raises the score, but I don't know how long. I would think eventually it would cause it to drop, but don't know.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi CclitGirl,

Hard to spell this nick of yours: Yeah, was fun doing it. We could've added some differentials,and LaPlace, or Fourier... but we thougth why do we have to Limit our revenue to zero?

LORD


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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Am back again love this hub :)


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Good morning Raciniwa,

The idea struck on us at 2 am, and we said, no way!! Gotta get some sleep. You can wait inspiration!! But eventually had to come to this screen. Have a nice day!

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

MillonaireTips,

Will go up for a while if you Go away. Friends will come back to check on you, so that's the reason of the increasing...after a week or so, will ramdonly fluctuate, meaning outside sources used to read you, are coming back for more of your creativity. Panda will settle on you...since you didn't write for a while( No errors to look for) But over all, was fun to write about this humonguos formula.

LORD


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Thanks Callum from Carslile,

Was because of you that we started thinking about this hub. Thanks for stopping by!

LORD


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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Your very welcome and I am so glad you wrote it too :)

Callum x


Sunnie Day 4 years ago

Well that explains it all..Thanks Lord for an informative hub..:)


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

You are welcome Sunnie,

Glad to see you around. Take care!

LORD


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ChristyWrites 4 years ago from British Columbia, Canada

The hub is very helpful, thank-you.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Sure ChristyWrites,

At least sum up al the variables that at the end of the day cause fluctuations. Thanks for your feeback on this hub.

LORD


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Ruchira 4 years ago from United States

haha...I am shocked at my intelligence but, seriously understood your algorithm :)

voted up as funny!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hahaha! Ruchira,

There is no magic Formula indeed. Write the hubs you love and know about and get the best from you as a writer, the rest will follow...sort of a domino effect. Thanks and, we had a chuckle doing it.

LORD


khadeejah 4 years ago from Nigeria

You have a great sense of humor.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Khadeejah,

Sense of humor is in us since we started to walk. Thanks for your stopping by,

LORD


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MartieCoetser 4 years ago from South Africa

What a complicated algorithm! I've bookmarked this, dear Lord, for thorough studying one day when the score really becomes important to me. Currently I regard it as a strike of luck - the jackpot I've managed to win in gambling.

Don't drink so much coffee - you know it is not good for the two of you to go without your beauty sleep.

Voted up and interesting :)


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hahaha! Martie,

Coffee abounds, 100% Colombian beans' The formula is there for the Connoisseur. Could've added the Extra Bonus for writing from your heart, but it should be common sense/ Take care my friend!

LORD


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savanahl 4 years ago

What a great hub. I've been wondering about that little number. Thanks for explaining it. Voted up.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Yes SavanahL, This darn Hub scoring can be a pain. But if you love to write and want to share valuable information. Don't worry too much about the score. Happy hubbing!

LORD


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Jennifer Essary 4 years ago from Idaho

Thank you for the insight : ) Voted up and useful.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Thanks Jennifer Assary,

Hope you got hold of this unusual formula. The main reason is to put In perspective how this fluctuant score is determined. Thanks for stopping by.

LORD


jenubouka 4 years ago

Well I hope you don't mind that I have written down your ingenious formula and plan to tattoo it to my inner right arm, years later I will become the chosen one for the secret code to disabling a nitrogen bomb......

This was so awesome, I lay awake at night trying to break down this great enigma.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

You were funny Jenobuka,

I just have added another subtle variable that also affects our score. Thanks for the fun comment!

LORD


ICCIEV 4 years ago

As always, you hubs are fun to read and provide great information, keep up the good work my friend.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Lol! Hey Pal! Nice to see you again! Behave ok? Thanks for stopping by!

LORD


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Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

It has helped and I do like your style Lord. Very interesting indeed. PCB may be awhile in coming here but there's always hope. Enjoyed Ari's and Simone's interview and Ma and Pa Kettle too. Found your hub through James Poppell's link on his new article.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Alastar Packer,

Was nice seeing you in here man! I admire your history hubs! down south.Take care!

LORD


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mary615 4 years ago from Florida

Hey, Lord. I was never good at Math and I will never clutter up my little brain trying to understand these scores. I'll go ito overload. Thanks for the info, though. You are great!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Mary 615,

Don't worry about formulas. You keep writing interesting hubs and do your pinnings, the rest will fall as part of this gravitational effect...from our cyberworld.

LORD


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CloudExplorer 4 years ago from New York City

Its quite amazing how all the stats add up, I love this hub and the whole Algorithm break down, nicely put together, lets hope it earn you a billion hits, LOL.

Imagine that right! Voted up high above these digital clouds of hubpages.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Cloud Explorer,

Not that I got a million hits, but was fun! You have a nice week!

LORD


iamaudraleigh 4 years ago

I guess it is ok to be in the 94percent tile, right? Interesting and fun hub! How have you been LORD? I miss ya!


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Victoria Lynn 4 years ago from Arkansas, USA

Cool, my Lord! I love your formula. And I really didn't know that the hub score is based on the amount of traffic you listed. Good to know! Awesome job. I love how you break things down. Many, many votes on this!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi There girl from april 6th! Doing fine gurl!Alive and kicking! Thanks for reading our hub... hopefully you can get some ideas and move up your score. Thanks!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi there Victoria dear mom of Gizmo! Yeah, definitely is about the traffic and how original we can be. Spammers, are looked upon closely and start getting lower scores. The insidious bot crawls overnite over the "unfortunate" who didn't meet Panda standards, business as usual! Thanks Vicky!


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tillsontitan 4 years ago from New York

Voted up, useful and funny all at the same time! My daughter is the math teacher, I am the writer...so I leave the math to her!

I read and re-read this hub and came up with the same conclusion; for whatever reason I am a 94-100 changing at any given time!

I did enjoy this hub, thanks for staying awake to write it.


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DS Duby 4 years ago from United States, Illinois

wow, you really broke it down. Our scoring is certainly a very complicated process. It's nice to know the basic categories were judged on, thanks for sharing. voted up, interesting, useful and sharing.


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Natashalh 4 years ago from Hawaii

Wow. This is pretty complex stuff! I'd been beginning to suspect traffic played a role. I keep having low weekend traffic and every weekend my score dips. It's really annoying me!

Thank you for all the info. Voting useful and interesting.


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Janine Huldie 4 years ago from New York, New York

Totally interesting and useful information for how hub scores are calculated. Thanks, voted up and shared too!


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dwachira 4 years ago from Nairobi, Kenya

At last now we know, we'll no longer talk about "this unknown HP algorithm", we have the rough idea. Thanks.


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midget38 4 years ago from Singapore

Guess all of us have this struggle of analyzing what makes this work.....Natashalh, you're right about the pattern....it seems to drop on the weekend! Heads up for an interesting hub.


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NC4Life078 4 years ago from United States of America

I enjoyed your perspective on how they compute the score. All though there may be a few things that are off. Based upon this, new hubbers like myself could not have a high score based upon. A. traffic, currently I have had about 500 views total, but based on this I should be a 90+ with 1300 views total.

I enjoyed your humor too, yet I felt as if you were a little side tracked at the start. It made it hard for me to read because I wasn't sure if it was relevant to the article.

Nevertheless, I think you hit the nail on the head with the formula and how you made it seem as if it was a mythical number we all strive to achieve.


mrinmoynath 4 years ago

For me, it was pretty complex, but really informative. Thanks.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Thanks TillsonTitan for the fun and hillarious commenting. That was cute indeed. Glad you enjoyed it!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Ds Dubby,

A pleasure in having help you a little. Variables can throw you off, so the best thing is just write what you really know about, adding your own flair!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

NatashaLH,

We advice you to write articles for the outdoors or hubs related to the season. Most of us are having cook-outs or driving down the shore. Good luck!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Janine Huldie,

We advice you to follow a limited quantity per day and take our variables in consideration. You have a degree in math and know it well. Thanks!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Dwachira,

You are so welcome. Just be or take in consideration those weekender hubs in order to protect your score from falling so low : Camping, fishing, outdoor how's are good articles to protect your score. Thanks buddy!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

midget38.

As said before : writing rich content topics along with interesting hubs for the weekend dropper, surely will help you a lot. Drop by the forums for the heck of it and you will have an average of 1-2 points added to the daily hub score.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

NC4life078,

We were on your shoes. Write as much hubs as you can and keep linking them. Sign or open your own blogger site and do the linking. Write on stuff you feel confortable with. Comment back and drop by the forums and at leas say hi. Thanks!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Mrnmonyath,

Just read what I did advice from the heart above, and just be consistent in your writing. This is a generalistic formula, that includes several factors and can be prone to up or down accordingly. Take care!


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Cyndi10 4 years ago from Georgia

Hello, This was an interesting read. Loved the yelling at the computer. I guess we've all been there, done that! I'm not a huge fan of math, so I guess I just keeping writing and hope someone reads and the Hubpages Gods look on favorably. :-) Voted up.


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denisemai 4 years ago from Idaho

My score bounces between 88 and 93. I don't receive as many views as you suggest. It's a mystery although it seems when I publish a lot or follow new hubbers, my score plummets. I feel like it's a roulette wheel. I'm thinking I shouldn't worry about it but I sure do have score envy of those with that lovely 100! You shed some light on it. Unfortunately, I stink at math so it's all lost on me. Good hub! Thumbs up.


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Cindy10 and DeniseMai,

This formula is generalistic and tries to cover all the variables involved in the final score. The best way to fight this bull is to write hubs with rich content. Someone at HP, a moderator, said that writing from your heart would help as much. Google loves business and they would love you more if you get them readers for their ads. We all want to reach that 100 score, but we do not have to worry, because in the end adsense will pay you by hits, not by score. Thanks!


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laurenewcomb 4 years ago from California

Interesting, thanks! Voted up!


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Hi Laurenewcomb,

Much appreciated by your comment. Hope this article clarifies the this monster. Have a good one!


Sueswan 4 years ago

Hi Lord,

Mathematical formulas and I never got along but you have made it clearer to me about the damn hubpages score.

Loved the Ma and Pa Kettle video. LOL

Voted up

Have a good day. :)


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Docmo 4 years ago from UK

Love your hub, my Lord. you have helped alleviate some of he new hubbers confusion. Now let me see. The formula is a combination of effort, productivity, promotion, engagement, feedback, mutual participation and originality. Oh and the blessings of Google bots who crawl over the content to measure it against mysterious parameters. Writing for one's own pleasure and a honest reader response sounds a good way forward! Thank you,


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tsmog 4 years ago from Escondido, CA

Awesome. Thank you for the Sharing this Review Sueswan and bringing this to our attention. The Darker Side of things is brought into the light. It seems that power remains with two elements. Hub Views and the first component of the formula or the Individual Hub Score (Values) ÷ Hubs Published (Inventory). Return on Investment seems to come alive and with the law of averages, yet is there more?

That in and of itself creates two variables when viewed as a ratio or a fraction. The rest are Valuable Bonuses with Great Worth. It's kind of like in law the difference between a bilateral contract and a quasi-bilateral agreement. Or, if you are like me it is the difference between a Starbucks 'Venti Mocha' and a 'Quad Venti Mocha' - smile.

It's early, I'm stuck in theta and waking up. Much to consider here tomorrow.

Thanks Lord and thanks Sueswan

Tim


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Lord De Cross 4 years ago Author

Sueswan, thanks for leaving such a meaningful comment. The formula is easy to understand and covers most of the variables involved. You have a nice one as well!

Thanks for helping us Docmo. Your comments are wise enough to keep the newbie hooked up. Glad to see you around!

Tsmog, your words are so original and explains things easier. I love that sense of humor of yours! Thanks again Tim!

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