Hollow Earth Theory, The Greatest Kept Secret of All Time or is it?

Mt. Shasta (ancient city of Telos) Lemurians

A manipulated photo of Mt. Shasta, a city named Telos is said to be beneath the mountain and his home to the Lemurians. Often described as a spiritual place on Earth.
A manipulated photo of Mt. Shasta, a city named Telos is said to be beneath the mountain and his home to the Lemurians. Often described as a spiritual place on Earth. | Source

Hollow Earth Theory

The subject of Hollow Earth to me is fascinating and until recently I didn't give it much thought, but due in large part to the information highway I decided it was time to investigate. After researching this topic it became clear to me that The Hollow Earth Theory is the greatest kept secret of all time . . . or is it? The amount of disinformation on this topic is truly staggering!

I consider myself to be pretty open minded, but the concept that our planet is hollow with an energy source in the center was pretty far fetched even for me, however one of my pet peeves is contempt prior to investigation and so I did what any good researcher would do I Googled it.

I got 3,750,000 sites in 11 seconds, Hmmm where to begin, obviously I wasn't going to have a problem with finding information on the subject.

The Hollow Earth Theory has been mentioned many times in various books on ancient man that I have read over the years. So I went back and found those books' sources and began reading.

Journey to the Earth's Interior by Marshal B. Gardner

Is actually two books and explores the Nebula Theory of planet creation and the many arctic explorations up to 1915 when the book was written. It chronicles explorers of the far north and their discoveries, some of which never made it to the history books, including the massive supply of Wooly Mammoth tusks that have been found on the coasts that seem to replenish themselves. It gives us a clear look at what was known about the Hollow Earth Theory, almost one hundred years ago, from a layman's point of view.

Genesis For The New Space Age by John B. Leith

A book written but never published that used primarily all government documentation through the Freedom of Information Act and officials brave enough to come forward. This book is available online through scribd and is well worth the read. It documents the early round winged aircraft known as Foo fighters by allied pilots in WWII and the apparent inventor. It goes on to talk about the Hollow Earth Theory as if it is a well known fact among many government entities and the fact that the Third Reich was in contact with Agartha the main country in Hollow Earth and that Hitler was allowed to live out his days there and died in 1973. It shows that many governments on our planet have been in contact with those that live inside and yet decided for our own safety we should be kept in the dark (sound familiar).

These next two books are both channeled information so not only is the subject matter hard to believe the source is from a party living within Hollow Earth and so is kind of hard to prove they actually exist.

Challenges of Change by Stanley A. Fulham

Covers a lot of ground from ancient history and the role aliens may have played in it to modern times and the potential for economic collapse, Earth changes and geographical upheavals. Pleiadians that are here to help us get through the ascension and polar shifts. The channeled information comes from a group that refer to themselves as the Transcendors and claimed that Mother ships would hover over every major city in October of 2010 (they must of been cloaked) which would have change our world forever.

Messages From Hollow Earth by Dianne Robbins

Is more of a spiritual message of hope from humans that live under Mount Shasta in the city of Telos and from Agartha inside Hollow Earth. Although they also refer to polar shifts and flooding, disease and famine they also offer hope and want to assure the human race that they will be there to help us pick up the pieces. They claim that once a race achieves a certain spiritual level of existence they move from one dimension to the next. Which is what the Earth is about to do, in the process the poles are going to shift dramatically causing much destruction. More advance civilizations due to edicts and laws (Council of Worlds) that govern their actions are unable to interfere, this includes the Telosians and Inner Earth inhabitants.

Etidorhpa

Is a fascinating book written as fiction, which is often done to introduce new concepts to the world without having to face the ridicule from the scientific community, which can be incredible narrow minded. Since the author never reveales himself to the transcriptionist, much like channeling, we are left with choosing to accept the truth of the story or not. It chronicles a fantastic journey, by a member of a secret cult (freemasons perhaps) who when revealing the secrets of his organization to the public was instead of being punished by death or ridicule was instead shown why the secret knowledge must remain that way.

He is taken on a journey through the Earth's Crust to a place where all the secret knowledge of our planet, the universe we live in and the spiritual nature of mankind is kept (Hollow Earth). Along the way many of his preconceived notions of the truth are shattered, startling wonders abound, until he is lead to reconstruct his world with this knew knowledge and asked to take the ultimate leap in faith, quite literally . . . and this is where the book ends. Still waiting for the sequel, eagerly.

interesting tidbit: Etidorhpa is really just Aphrodite spelled backwards.

Considering these five books alone describe in detail a world with in a world, it is easy to understand why it is difficult to know if Hollow Earth Theory is the greatest kept secret of all time . . . or is it, would be the title to my article.

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What gets me about all of these books is if there is no truth to these claims why try to discredit them and suppress the information, treat them as fantasy and move on. The Hollow Earth Theory has been mentioned by Jesus in the Bible (I believe in the story of Lazarus), was part of much controversy surrounding Admiral Byrd's Antarctic Explorations, was referred to in ancient Egypt mythology, also is connected to ancient Sumerian texts.

The no fly zones over both poles may have worked during the Cold War era, but I see no reason to keep the restrictions in place now. Hollow Earth explains a lot mysteries that still to this day baffle scientists, including the true nature of gravity. The Northern Lights or Aurora Borealis can be easily explained as light from the inner sun radiating out from the opening in the North Pole, which NASA carefully photoshops to keep the public from seeing it in pictures of Earth from space. With the no fly zone in place this cannot be verified independently.

It seems to me a lot of careful manipulation of the truth has been done to create the picture that the whole concept is fantasy and yet I got over 3 million references to it when I googled it, things that make you go Hmmmm!

In many of the books they referred to instances where the inhabitants have tried to communicate their concerns with the many governments of the world and even went as far as signing treaties and agreements and exchanged technology in an effort to create peace.

The fact that so many cultures world wide have these myths and legends concerning the Hollow Earth Theory is reason enough to dig a little deeper. Myths and legends are often found to be steeped in the truth of events that ancient man simple did not have the words for. How would an ancient man explain a cell phone or a car and then have an archeologist try to decipher the meaning 5,000 years later, see what I mean?

While we are on the subject isn't it interesting that many of the concepts and technologies introduced to our society in the form of movies and science fiction books thirty to fifty years ago are now everyday conveniences. The cell phone reminds me of the original communicators used on Star Trek.

Sharula Dux lives on the Surface with us

Telos

Telos an ancient city created and lived in by the ancient Lemurian civilization at or around the destruction of their civilization in the Pacific 10,000 years ago. Knowing of the coming polar shift in advance they went about molding and shaping the interior of Mt. Shasta (the natural volcanic cavities often found in dormant volcanoes).

First they redirected the lava flow towards the Pacific Ocean and then went about enlarging the natural cavities created by the lava. This advanced civilization has lived underneath the mountain in peaceful cohabitation with surface dwellers as well as Hollow Earth inhabitants. Their advanced technology allows them to monitor our progress without revealing their presence.

In Dianne Robbins simple titled book Telos in which she channels information from these inhabitants explains their willingness to help but due to the laws that govern non interference with developing civilizations are unable to do anything but provide information. Because of the nature of this information many of us on the surface are simple unwilling to even consider the information.

The video archive produced by Sharula Dux (a supposed Telosian living with us on the surface) also explains the complexities of the situation.

I have always subscribed to the theory of hiding in plain site, is the safest way to safeguard any secrets. What better way to live than inside the Earth where the temperature is always constant, the air is not polluted and the water pure. Where weather is not a factor and disease has been eradicated.

Imagine what man might accomplish with 10,000 years of peace and the advancement of technologies uninterrupted by constant wars, disease and famine and bad weather?

So in conclusion is the Hollow Earth Theory the Greatest Kept Secret of All Time, or is it?

Good Video on the Subject

NASA Photo

NASA photo showing Hollow Earth opening
NASA photo showing Hollow Earth opening | Source

Entrance

An artist rendition of the polar opening, surrounded by ice would make getting to it problematical.
An artist rendition of the polar opening, surrounded by ice would make getting to it problematical. | Source

Dimensions and Concept

When I say the Earth is Hollow, what exactly do I mean?

Consider the possibility that as the planet formed (the nebula theory) from the gases of the universe around a star, both the star and gas collapsing in on itself until it gradually formed a sphere around the now much smaller star. This sphere due to gravitational forces formed vortexes at the poles and as they tried to meet in the center were pushed away by the star and created a bubble with two openings on either pole. So as the Earth crust solidified what happened to the outside happened to the inside. The inside of the planet would create a perfect environment for life to start as weather would not be an issue.

The dimensions are that the crust is basically 400 to 800 miles thick depending on what source you choose to believe and since the Earth is almost 8,000 miles wide in diameter, that leaves roughly 7,200 to 6,400 miles. The Sun or Smokey God is roughly 600 miles in diameter which leaves 6,600 to 5,800 miles divided in half would leave 3,300 or 2,900 miles on either side of the interior sun, That is a lot of HOLLOW SPACE.

The openings at either pole are so wide (1,400 miles) that a person sailing into it would never even be aware or see the hole as it is too vast. Even Admiral Byrd didn't realize that he was flying into a hole.

Consider that Adam & Eve were kicked out of the Garden of Eden, meaning they were exiled to the surface, to live out their now mortal lives and become the originators of our race. What better way to create a planet than to allow it to mimic the most simple cells. Every cell has a nucleus and an outer wall or crust with the interior being Hollow . . . As above, So below.

Hollow Earth . . . Greatest Kept Secret of All Time or is it, barely scratches the surface of this intriguing mystery, yet because so many people from so many cultures from every epoch of time have stories about it, then can we so easily dismiss them as myth?

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sparkster 5 years ago from United Kingdom

Hmm interesting hub. I've heard of the hollow earth theory before but have never really looked into properly. I've also heard there are two spacecraft under the oceans preventing a pole shift from happening.


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Kosmo 5 years ago from California

Count me as a skeptic of this hollow earth jazz, though the premise is fertile ground for science fiction - if nothing else. James Rollins wrote a novel about underground folks and such entitled "Subterranean." It isn't bad. Hey, I want to believe in Bigfoot and Nessie too, but the scientist in me lives in Missouri, where "you gotta show me." Good job here. Later!


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Yeah, great sci-fi material but very few novels about Hollow Earth, why do you suppose that is and no movies about it besides Journey to the Center to the Earth.

Have you been to Missouri, I doubt there are too many scientist there, don't you actually have to graduate HS to be a scientist.

Why do you think they call it the Show Me State . . . 'cause no one can read!


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sparkster 5 years ago from United Kingdom

Hey somethgblue, I see you were looking for a link to the start of my extraterrestrial investigation. Here's a link to Part 1, you can follow the links through the rest of the investigation.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Do-Aliens-...


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thanx, I would like to begin at the dawn of time but you probable don't have a link for that!

Your Psychological Murder was really good and stuck with me for a while . . . thinking is good. I believe Plato said and I paraphrase "Make a man think and he we love you, make a man really think and he will hate you."

Which I have a tendency to do.


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

Thank you very much for pointing me in this direction on my hub on the same topic.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

We probable should link each others hubs or something like that if you like mine that is . . . ?


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

Okay. Will do.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I linked your page to mine, still kind of new to this hope that is OK?


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

It's OK with me.


RobSchneider 5 years ago

Wow! I remember reading the Hollow Earth and Etidorhpa back in the 70s. Truth or speculation, they were real mind benders. Whatever the truth is, I'm sure our current belief system is about as accurate as the formerly firmly held belief that the earth is flat. It was just inconceivable that it could be anything but, since we'd all fall off otherwise. Then Newton can along, debunked that theory and became the god of wisdom. Unfortunately for Isaac, he doesn't seem to have been as all-wise, all-knowing as we believed. Moving on to Lady Guinevere.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Rob,

You should feel free to leave a scathing review all these mambe pambe compliments are making me ill.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal

Brilliant hub, very well researched and put together! Voted up and shared at Facebook!


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Teresa Schultz 5 years ago from East London, in South Africa

- and a good share it was, Bard of Ely - the share on Facebook brought me here. A brilliant hub, very interesting indeed - well done, somethgblue.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thanks guys and Ladies, I recently shut my fb account down it was getting kind of weird, so I appreciate you sharing!


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

hmmmm is Rob trying to start something??? So sorry you had to shut down your FB account.


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MizBejabbers 5 years ago

I've been reading some things lately on the hollow earth theory and thank you for a good hub and some great sources. I've voted you up! having said that, I want to do a little more investigation on the Wikilinks video that came from Youtube. It looks authentic, but the narrator reads like a professional actor. Are we missing something from an old movie? Hmmmm. (I used to be a professional radio announcer, so voices like that grab me.)


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The video obviously isn't anything real in terms of like a secret, I think that it was created in that type of scenario, to enable it to be made. If you present concepts and ideas that are to close to the truth in a serious manner folks might think it's real, but if you present it in a questionable to borderline fantasy setting then it is considered in that context and nothing more.

Many concepts of technology we have today were projected into society 60 to 70 years ago through science fiction. When the Romans ruled the World the Christians learned to communicate in plain sight through coded art work, temples and statues.

It is no different today, when the message must be revealed without letting the populace know the message! Take comet Elenin that NASA has been talking about, NASA just released a memo to all employees to be ready for natural disasters.

E.L.E.N.I.N. . . . . Extinction Level Event Nibiru Is Near, coincidence . . .

Coincidence, get real!


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

To Lady G.,

I consider Rob a friend and fellow Hubber that I agree with more than I disagree with.

He is a really good writer, read some of his stuff it is worth the time, and he has a clever wit.

I wish he would start something, because I would enjoy matching wits with his, so no worries but thanx for having my back!


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Lady Guinevere 5 years ago from West Virginia

Oh I read and commented on his hubs. I was just wondering what direction he was going with his comment about me. It wasn't good or bad, just wondering, that's all. I don't even know if it was just meant like in the name or history of that name Lady Guinevere or me the person. So I ask.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

gotcha!


RobSchneider 5 years ago

"Moving on to Lady Guinevere" just meant I was going to check out your hubs. Sorry if it was misleading.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Your guilty conscious leads me to believe it is code for something more diabolically sinister and nefarious. Is there a hidden Schneider Code in your hubs, sending subliminal messages to the unsuspecting reader . . .

I'll be keeping an eye on you, buddy!


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MizBejabbers 5 years ago

Yes, Somethgblue, I agree with you. My metaphysical instructor years ago told us to read the "far-out" stories in the tabloids because they were revealing truths that the main-stream media wouldn't print. She warned us, however, to be discerning in what we believed. I was just querying if this was suppposed to be actual footage or a reenactment, that's all. If Wikilinks made the distinction, I missed it. Maybe I should have stated it differently. I appreciate your comment.


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somethgblue 5 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

If it was in a movie I missed it, not sure where it came from? would be interesting to find out?


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GoGreenTips 4 years ago from Indianapolis

Interesting hub, I've read about the theory before, and Admiral Byrd's trip. Lots of the information that is deemed fanatical, is actually true, the elite have knowledge of this, but wish to keep the secrets and benefits of these secrets to themselves. So the information, truth, is portrayed as fantasy or those that attempt to report on the information are portrayed as kooks, or fanatics.

I have also started a blog, website on conspiracy theories, if you'd ever like to write an article for it, and link to any of your hubs, I'd love to have something you write.

Just started, but get about 70-100 visitors a day.

Don't want to self-promote, so if interested the link is on my profile page.

Thanks for your comments.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Pick a subject and I'll write about it, anything you want. I got kicked off YouTube permanently for sharing my truth about 9/11 or would you prefer something less controversial?

Say Nibiru one of my favorite subjects or Polar Shift or Marijuana being the cure for cancer, or cancer being injected into people that can afford to fight it or Draconian Reptiles ruling the world?

Also what kind of format and do you want me to supply graphics, photos?

I'll go to profile and get the link . . . oh yeah the term is Nutard, kook or fanatic is so politically correct us true seekers prefer the term Nutard!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Go Go Green! Go ahead and self promote - your blog is really interesting. Watch out for a guest poster who goes by the name of Something Blue or maybe Nutard. He's a crazy conspiracy theory nut and maybe even a terrorist!!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Are you trying to get me detained indefinitely . . . do you know the definition of the word indefinitely, when your balls are slapping against her ass your in definitely!

The world is starting to wake up definitely exciting times to be living in!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Just curious....are you getting people making rude comments on this hub? I have had to stop permitting comments on mine because of a few close minded people.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

No everyone has been cordial, of course my kind of people are a little obnoxious, but I like 'em like that.

I'm sorry to hear that would you like me to cancel the link?


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GoGreenTips 4 years ago from Indianapolis

I'd love to have something on Nibiru and Draconian Reptiles sound great! I'll put up any graphics you want...Thanks for the reply.

Great comment nutard! Love your hubs! Sorry about You-tube! They just can't handle the truth! Take care!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

No need to do that. I think I know who it is. Have you heard of the interview with one of those who live in the hollow earth? I have a link to it if you are interested.


RobSchneider 4 years ago

I think "indefinitely" is a nice way of saying "forever."


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Johann Tetreault 4 years ago from Tampa, Florida

wow. I cant even talk after this post. Even if it is fiction is sucks you in. I want more on this subject ASAP.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Johann,

Your making me blush, if that makes you speachless you should read so more of my hubs, they don't call mea certified Nutard for nothing!

Hollow Earth is real there is no doubt in my mind, if it wasn't TPTB wouldn't go to such great lengths to cover it up.

They have no fly zones over the Poles and have had them in place for 70 years no one can get close, but a bunch of noflying terrorists can hijack planes and crash them into buildings, get real!

When I began researching Hollow Earth the evidence is literally all over the place go to http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/ and check this site out read editorpha which is Aphrodite spelled backwards or any the books I mention above.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I believe too and same reason's as you. In my hub I had a video about New Berlin where Hitler made a new Germany in the Hollow Earth but it was taken down. Hitler was diabolical and a bit power hungry, but he also was known to get information from "other" cultures.


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Hey - I already told you you were a great writer. Wake up and smell the accolades. This isn't self-promotion, because it's not my hub I want people to read as much as a Washington insider's opinion: http://robschneider.hubpages.com/hub/Who-is-Paul-C...

I'm not even going to joke about you being a "t.....ist" anymore. Things are getting serious over there.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

They maybe getting serious , however that will not stop me from spreading my version of the truth. People can make their own choices on what to believe, but the word needs to be spread far and wide!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

First page of google search . . . yippy skippy!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I wrote you a PM.


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MizBejabbers 4 years ago

I have read your hub about three times and get something more out of it every time I read it. I'm going to have to look further into some of those books you list. Thanks, again!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

It is getting some attention perhaps it is time to do an updated version


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Here's the link for the Inner Earth Reptilian interview: http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_fil...


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

read the whole thing and believe all of it


RobSchneider 4 years ago

I just had the opportunity to skim the Lacerta Files for the first time. The reptilian says the earth is not hollow, but contains enormous chambers. There is no interior sun, but they make artificial light. She talks about 14 different alien races.

My internal image of the hollow earth and reptilians is quite different and others who have studied the subject in depth (unlike me - a rank amateur) come to very different conclusions. That's understandable, because, as Lacerta says, we humans are very dumb and the available information is sketchy at best.

True or made up, the document is very compelling and if the writer made it up, he or she is a creative genius. The one thing that bugged me, though, was that even Lacerta seemed to think like a "modern" human, using intellectual thought processes. That is so "natural" to us Westerners, we don't even think about it, but I have met at least one person who grew up in the jungle and later adopted our mode of thinking, which I think is very artificial and, if the state of the planet is anything to go on, destructive.

It's way too complicated to go into here, but basically I came to the conclusion that Lacerta wasn't a whole lot smarter than we Westerners are - just had a few more tricks up her sleeve.

That doesn't mean I'm right. Just an amateur observation and opinion.


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Sorry, but my edits took too long and the comment above is incomplete. What I left out was that it's very easy for me to imagine/believe that we are a hybrid species. That helps explain the rapid development of our frontal lobes and the apparent malfunctioning of our brains. The bridge between the hemispheres is closing and some say we think very differently now than we did 4000 years ago. This does not seem to be an improvement, but an aberration.


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Johann Tetreault 4 years ago from Tampa, Florida

About that, yeah... the proof that we have been here for far longer than 4000 years ago and in fact for 10's of thousands of years can be found in India, and Southern Spain. They found Atlantis. Its in Southern Spain. ITS THERE!!! FACT!!

Now about the Hollow Earth thing, no that is a bit much. I would have to see it with my own two eyes.

Here is another FACT. When the Tsunami hit India do you know that it washed away tons and tons of dirt and sand from the beaches. What was found is an ANCIENT bridge that goes from India to Sri Lanka. Now there is something for you to think about it. That bridge is at least 15,000 years old and its man made. Man is an ancient race.

These are facts that no one can change or argue about, as they are FACTS.

Google it, research it for yourself, because no one will believe anything anyway.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

First of all EVERYONE has an agenda Human, Reptilian or Alien, that being said Lacerta is no different. The truth of Hollow Earth will be revealed when we are allowed to visit and confirm for ourselves the truth.

I don't doubt that there are huge underground caverns with artificial light big enough to hold cities and there is just the same possibility that the planet is hollow and has a central smaller 'sun'.

If you lived in paradise inside the planet would you be so quick to spread the word to a civilization that is bent on destroying the surface they live on, I wouldn't tell anyone!

Is she lying without a doubt, is she telling the truth without a doubt, but until we see for ourselves she can pick and choose to tell us whatever flips her switch.

It is obvious we skipped a major chunk of evolution, even by Darwins' own omission evolution could not have occurred so quickly.

There is no way we could stop any advanced species from coming here anytime they choose, hell we can't even go to the bottom of our own Oceans.

Look around you is humanity STUPID? We are beyond stupid, this civilization thinks incredible small, we still divide the planet up in Nations not even willing to concede that we are all the same species.

We call God by different names, it is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of . . . I'm beginning to hope and pray I'm not human cause we are a bunch of idiots!

I suspect we are creating our own self fulfilling prophecies simple by thinking our reality into occurring, we are clueless.

The pineal gland or third eye is helping us to awake, but most of humanity isn't even aware of how our brains work and how our consciousness effects our reality.

The amount of information available to us is staggering and yet we wallow in our own pathetic self imposed misery.


RobSchneider 4 years ago

I didn't say we have only been around for 4000 years, just that some speculate that we have been thinking differently for around 4000 years. According to their research, we have only recently switched from intuitive/instinctive thinking to analytical/intellectual thinking. That has not been an improvement: it has narrowed our perspective considerably. I can't emphasise enough how stupid I believe we are - that definitely includes me.

David Wilcock and others think that our fluoridated water has been given to us to shut down our pineal glands and dumb us down. My wife, who grew up in the jungle sees things that "aren't there" and wins the local lottery far more often than chance accounts for. Is that because her jungle water wasn't fluoridated or is it a combination of reasons?


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Yes , I just got to that part in the Source Field Investigations about the pineal gland, hence why I mentioned it.

Fluoride is not an accident and neither is the food industry or Health industry and the way we also are being poisoned by the electronic devices we use on a daily basis.

The conspiracy is so big and the scope of it so large that no single person can grasp it all, only by moving beyond it can we have any hope of getting past it.


johann tetreault 4 years ago

Wow. U just read it again. I'm going to print it when I get back.


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MizBejabbers 4 years ago

@ Rob Schneider: I've heard the fluoride conspiracy for years, but I've been part of what is even worse. I was among the children who were experimented on by the U.S. Government in the 1940s and 50s. When I was in the first grade in Arkansas, all the children in my school were given a "fluoride" treatment on our teeth, only one treatment, it was never repeated. I think all school children in town were given treatments that year. Also, when my ex-husband was born in Texas, his mother was told by the hospital that he was given a radiation pill for some unexplained reason. Both my ex and I have had diseased thyroids removed. His problem developed when he was 30, and mine was removed for a precancerous condition last year. In addition, there has been a high volume of cancer among my school mates, starting with the first one who died at age 17. I guess my point is: Is it the fluoride or is it what the fluoride is covering up?

@somethingblue: I have been a student of metaphysics for 35 years, and the pineal gland is mentioned in my studies as an important part of man’s spiritual evolution. Just in the last year or so more and more information is being revealed about how important a role it plays.

Guys, I think you are on the right track!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

According the current book I'm reading which is a compilation of a wide range of spiritual and metaphysical investigations called The Source Field Investigations by David Wilcock fluoride actually inhibits pineal gland function.

In other words the Government or TPTB are trying to block pineal function by calcifying the gland itself using fluoride and by the use of electronic devices such as cell phones.

When cell phones first came out there was a big deal made about the amount of radiation they produced, then the FDA came out and said they were perfectly safe, I consider that BS and do not believe they are safe.

Prolonged use does effect our brains, so I try not to use mine and usually average 5 to 7 calls a month. All electronics put out frequencies even TV's and other devices and so the public ends up being bombarded by these frequencies each day.

Humans are getting dumber not smarter, so they are effectively holding us back from harnessing our full potential.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Wow I am surprised that someone actually is taking the Lacerta Interview seriously. It has always got me ridiculed and it has gotten many bullying me because of it. I m glad it isn't falling on deaf ears now. I have the same link and many others on my hub as well and what cities are supposed to be in the Inner Earth.

Yes, they hide lots of things from us. UI don't know if I have it on my hub but all the Earthquakes that have happened in US alone is caused by military tunneling to different underground bases. Ya think this could be the war the Lacerta is talking about instead of one on top of the earth? I think so. Something is going to flush them out--not in.


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MizBejabbers 4 years ago

Dunno Lady G., but the recent earthquakes in the Ozarks (outside the New Madrid fault zone) began when the fraking for oil and natural gas started. Some metaphysicians are trying to say that they are caused by the crystal formations the Atlanteans hid and grew in Arkansas starting to activate. (Google Metatron) So lotta theories to be investigated here. Metatron does talk about the underground cities and the various people who live in them.


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cleaner3 4 years ago from Pueblo, Colorado

Wow, Perception is reality. This is wild stuff Thanks for opening my mind.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Cleaner 3 and Lady G. part of perception and expanding our perception is learning to tolerate and show patience to others with limited narrow minded perceptions . . . after all I didn't start out my adult life believing in these things but by reading and researching with an open mind while using critical thinking, I came to the realization that the TRUTH is incredible fantastic and beyond what the Sheeple are willing to accept.

For the most part the masses have been conditioned to limit their thinking for generations and allow others to do their thinking for them. Ignorance is expensive and knowledge is power.


Sam 4 years ago

Bookmark this book with this funny Dead mark flat bookmark. lol Very appropriate huh. What do you think?

http://www.theregoesallmymoney.com/dead-mark-squas...


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

As opposed to a hollow bookmark? Is that humor?


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unvrso 4 years ago from Mexico City

somethblue, I had never heard of hollow earth. There is to much speculation about this. One thing that I can say is that once, I visited a community in Mexico where very bright lights come in and out at night. I visited a friend´s house in the "huasteca potosina." Some 600 km (372 miles) from Mexico City, and I had to rent a donkey which could take me some km into the huasteca which took around 10 hours. Once at the place, my friend took me to witness a big hole on the ground (5 meter perfectly shaped diameter) where cows sometimes fall into. I threw a big rock and kept quiet for a while, but didn´t hear the rock hitting the end of the hole. People native to that area believe that this place is a subterranean base for extraterrestrials; however, I have never read or heard anything from another source. Voted up!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The concept that our planet is hollow is intriguing as it would explain many mysteries easily, yet the concept has remained a true secret even after books have been published about a hundred years ago.

It is a fascinating topic and once you start looking into will realize that there is a vast amount of information on the subject and yet hardly anyone has heard of it.


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unvrso 4 years ago from Mexico City

I´ll keep reading about the topic, somethgblue. I´m slightly interested. One of my passtimes when I was little, was to get into the caverns which were the subjects of a lot of interesting stories at that time. I´m planning to buy a camera, which I don´t have, so I can take pictures of strange places. Voted interesting!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Get a digital camera, as you have unlimited photos and they work really well even in the dark with no flash!


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

Interesting article somethgblue! I enjoyed going through all these 'adventures" you describe. it will be fun to read some in more details. One starts indeed wishing, it should be hollow and should be easy to find! True or not enthusiasm is inspiring. It teaches one to keep mind always open to new ideas.

There are similar stories in India about Himalayas being inhabited by very "intelligent" people.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I have heard of these stories about advanced beings under the Himalayas and also finished a book months back about Jesus' stay in India, really good!

You should write a hub about the local stories of these beings, I love reading about the stories from the common man of localities such as native India.


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

Thanks a lot somethgblue! I had also heard about Jesus being in India. I once read some article which speculated that Jesus had met some Buddhist monks and tried to give some symmetries from Buddhist philosophy and teachings of Jesus.

It will be interesting to have a proper studies of these topics. But rarely one sees such studies.

I also like these old stories in India there must be in millions and they teach a lot. I do plan to put some on hubpages some time.

Just now I am actually trying to write some basic details of model of universe created by advaiata vedanta philosophers and rishis (a term used in India, for hermit-scientist-philosophers, in ancient days people did not distinguish so much they were all these at the same time). Very interesting model created with very simple observations in daily life and simple rational arguments. I am rewriting those ideas in today's language. If you are interested here are links of first one (that is more on history, the beginners of these ideas now there is enough evidence to convince oneself that they lived along the banks of Saraswati river which dried up earlier than 3500 BC . They perhaps lived between 5000 BC to 4000 BC.) and last part I wrote. I intend to put 3-4 more parts and put all together and few more details in a book later.

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/...

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritualblogs/s...


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

some how the comment did not publish links properly. Let me try again. The blogs are at this site

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/soumyasrajan/blo...

see links there.

let me put addresses again in two lines for each.

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/

seekers/philosophy/walking-on-paths-created-by-our-rishis-come-ii

http://www.speakingtree.in/public/spiritual-blogs/

seekers/philosophy/walking-on-paths-created-by-our-rishis-come-xiii


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

It showed up on my screen, your good!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

soumyasrajan - I've just started reading your "Walking on Paths . . ." series. Fascinating! I've already learned something new. I had learned that the Saraswati was a mythological river, but now you confirm that it was real and put a date on it. What's the name of the book about Jesus visiting India? I remember reading one over 40 years ago. Forget the details, but a lot of pieces started falling together about the "lost years" of Jesus, which included all of his formative years.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The book is called When Jesus Lived In India by Alan Jacobs, he hung out with buddhist monks who taught him to lower his heart rate to a couple beats per minute just in case he ever found himself in a position where he had to fake his own death, so Mary could collect on his life insurance policy and they could meet in the south of France on the Rvieria and chill happily ever after . . . . . and now you know the rest of the story!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Did he change his name to Rothchild? Judging from history, it appears that my theory that Judas faked his own death may be flawed.


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

Thanks Rob, very much looking forward to your comments and suggestions on this rewriting. I am also going through your interesting site

http://www.cookbookofconsciousness.com/

The information somethgblue gives about book and some content (last sentence must be his joke) is interesting.

I did not know this relationship of Yoga and his "death" and coming back. At least a little feasible idea.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Yes, I have an interesting sense of humor Rob gets it, but it isn't for everyone.

However dying from cruxifixction in six hours is either proof he was the Son of God or a really good magic trick as it takes quite a bit longer to die, as it is meant as a way of torturing someone slowly to death.

That being said the best way to get out of town and not have anyone follow you or ask questions is to fake your death and if you can walk on water, faking your own death is child's play especially if your hanging on a cross at the time and have already been speared and whipped.

So why couldn't he, especially he had places to go and people to see?


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Soumyasrajin - It's an "inside joke." I wrote a Hub awhile back in reaction to America's claim to be a Christian nation while in fact the country behaves in a way that is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Jesus. It's called Judas: The American Messiah? - http://robschneider.hubpages.com/hub/Judas-The-Ame...


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

I read your article, quite funny indeed and quite near truth. Also I started reading on Wikipedia about Judas.

Here is some thing interesting much more feasible than complicated yoga etc. (if you leave out 2nd heaven part or assume heavens are on earth).

It can so simple - somebody (Judas may be?) posed for Jesus to die and Jesus of course came back. Though I like story of Jesus the traditional one. That is much more inspiring. But let me copy this one from wikipedia. May be you booth Rob and soemthgblue know this one, still you may enjoy again (I hope). I any way did not know much about Judas.

"According to medieval copies (the earliest copies from the 15th century) of the Gospel of Barnabas it was Judas, not Jesus, who was crucified on the cross. This work states that Judas's appearance was transformed to that of Jesus', when the former, out of betrayal, led the Roman soldiers to arrest Jesus who by then was ascended to the heavens. This transformation of appearance was so identical that the masses, followers of Christ, and even the Mother of Jesus, Mary, initially thought that the one arrested and crucified was Jesus himself. The gospel then mentions that after three days since burial, Judas's body was stolen from his grave, and then the rumors spread of Jesus being risen from the dead. When Jesus was informed in the third heaven about what happened, he prayed to God to be sent back to the earth, and descended..."

Rob! Judas is much more real hero, if this one is true. Do you still want him to be Messiah for Americans?


soumyasrajan 4 years ago from Mumbai India and often in USA

"faking your own death is child's play"

perhaps you already were referring to some thing like this?


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

perhaps I was!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

I made my gospel up from scratch, so yes, I'll stick with it out of vanity and pride (two admirable qualities in any follower of Judas). Thanks for reading. My follow-up article, The Beatitudes versus the Baditudes - http://robschneider.hubpages.com/hub/The-Beatitude... goes into Judasism a little deeper. Only 38 people have read it, but then again, nobody read Moby Dick until after the movie was made.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Using the popularity of a successful hub article to promote the inane musings of a used up spent piece of jet trash, is somewhat amusing.

At least you could do is praise my awesomeness while doing it, but alas providing charity to those less fortunate than us can be useful if only to weasel a free membership into said religion.

I accept, thank you!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Speaking of jet trash, I watched a fascinating video last night that analysed the 9/11 "live" newscasts in depth. All the networks were synced, for one thing and the "amateur" videos that were released later were all supplied by professional video editors and other media professionals.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

As I told you I'm reading this book called The Source Field Investigations by David Wilcock and he is now talking about some little known experiments that a Russian scientist named Kozyrev did with time, about detecting it and measuring it.

What I'm beginning to sense is that when these mind boggling concept become common knowledge it will allow humans to think so much differently that we will in effect create our own reality instantly.

He insinuates that 2012 is speeding exponentially so that we are going to evolve almost instantly, we will quite simple go to sleep one night and wake up the next morning changed . . . I think, . . . the concepts are so incredible that I can only read about 5 to 10 pages a night, because my brain gets overwhelmed.

Anyway what are you talking about, 9/11 used holographic technology . . . in my opinion no planes were used just holograms that were project from one plane circling overhead, give me a link and I'll check it out!


RobSchneider 4 years ago

It's http://septemberclues.info/

This guy reckons missiles were used. Eyewitnesses who weren't media execs often said it looked like a small plane or missile. He shows how they blew it when they superimposed a plane on the video footage. The nose of the plane clearly emerges intact on the other side of one of the towers. He doesn't speculate on why the towers fell on their footprints, but very convincingly shows how the disinformation campaign was carried out. Anyway, have a look. I'll be interested in hearing your totally warped conspiracy theorist opinion.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Rob,

I was already kicked off of You Tube four years ago for expressing that very claim that those on the ground only saw projected images from an AWAC plane controlling the missiles from above. These holographic projections followed the flight of the missiles to the point of impact. What was seen on TV was Hollywood special effects.

The buildings were destroyed by a combination of controlled demolition and free energy weapons harnessing the energy from the nearby Hurricane Erin using the Hutchinson Effect.

Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition to cover and destroy many financial documents and evidence. The whole false flag operation was used to generate a large sum of money in the form of insurance claims and to demonstrate power and the willingness to use it. It also had the added affect of manipulating public opinion for ten years of War, much like the Gulf of Tompkin and Pearl Harbor before it,

There is no mystery here, one must learn to look in their heart for the truth, either believe or don't.


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MizBejabbers 4 years ago

Sorry, I can't go it. Maybe I just don't understand your explanation, but the daughter of a high-school friend was a flight attendant on one of the planes and died in the holocaust. How could she have died in a hologram? I don't think she was riding a missle. Or are you saying her death could have been faked? The grief of her family certainly wasn't.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

No, I doubt their grief is fake, were they given a body to bury? I don't think she was riding a missile either.

If there were no planes there were no people on the planes, so where are these people that are no longer with us? Are you aware that the FBI has estimated that over one million Americans disappear without a trace every year from America, where do those people go?

We are only talking about maybe 300 to 500 people total from all those planes, where are they? Well, some of them undoubtedly were simple made up, but others such as your friends daughter is no longer with us or is she, after all no body was given back to them.

There are over 150 Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMB's) in the US alone. These DUMB's house anywhere from 5,000 to 150,000 people and do have housing and prisons. We are talking about purposefully killing all those in the buildings and those that went to rescue them, the final tally was over 3,000. Disposing of those that were supposed to get on those planes would not have been difficult.

There are reports from the O'Hara airport on the morning of 9/11 in Chicago of a plane being diverted to a hanger all the passengers removed and the airport closed down, what was that all about?

Explain why the cell phone conversations from passengers to family members would have been recorded in the first place how did anyone know to record them?

Explain why some would call their mother and introduce themselves, my Mom will never forget what my voice sounds like and vice versa, but how did anyone know to record these conversations.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

Blue, I just wanted to thank you for inspiring me. I hadn't heard much about the Hollow Earth theory before, but your hub truly opened my eyes. So much so that I had to write my own hub about the topic.

The truth must be told!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

No kidding, you should've left a link, some people frown on that on hub pages but I have no problem with it.

The concept of Hollow Earth is even crazy for a nutard like me but what I find fascinating is all of the material on it and all of the material trying to debunk it. To me it's like if it's just fantasy why spend so much time trying to refute it, leave it alone and it will die on it's own, but it really does have a life of it's own.

Well off to read your version . . .


RobSchneider 4 years ago

MizBejabbers comment was interesting, but I'll risk sounding heartless by commenting on her use of the word "holocaust." Far greater "holocausts" have been inflicted on the people of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya since the launch of the War on Terror, yet there is zero connection between 9/11 and those invasions. We may question each other's views about what really happened on 9/11, but one thing is certain: the official story is a fabricated one.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I can't believe you deleted your own comment, now you have me curious, as you know I wouldn't have!

Gruber wrote an interesting article, I'm beginning to wonder if he is actually a paid debunker, if he is he need to get better at it.

The Holocaust was actually first used long before WWII by the Governor of NY to describe the atrocities the Russians used on the Jewish population during and after their revolution and around WWI.

It is interesting to note that an AP poll of the Worldwide Jewish population in 1939 had it around 5 millions and another taken in 1945 had it around 4 million so how did the Nazi's kill 6 million, did they only kill Jews under the age of six?


RobSchneider 4 years ago

My original comment was not as kind as the one above. I've just about had it with people who still think the US was the innocent victim of a terrorist attack. As for the "holocaust" - I don't know and no longer care. The state of Israel beats that drum now to divert attention from its own evil deeds.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I used to get very frustrated with the idiots that are unwilling or unable to grasp the fact that they are getting lied to about 9/11 until I watched that video on one of your hubs about the social psychologist's from the Peoples Republic of Boulder and Cognitive Dissonance.

Now I understand that they are frightened mice and haven't evolved to the sheeple stage and their self imposed ignorance no longer surprises me. After all if people aren't brave enough to explore the truth then they deserve to be left behind. Genetically weak minds should be exposed and bread out of the gene pool.

I always find it interesting when I offer the no planes theory that the first thing people always ask is where did all the people go . . . it shows me that sheeple truly need others to think for them, incapable of making the connection that no planes equals no people and no bodies.

A million people go missing in America every year, where do they go?

Thousands of children go missing every year, where do they go?

The plane in PA that 'supposedly' crashed, no bodies, where did they go?

The plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon, no bodies, where did they go?

Use your brain what is the common denominator, planes supposedly total vaporized, no bodies, where did they go?


RobSchneider 4 years ago

They went to heaven to be with Jesus, where they now sit and wait for the day they can watch infidels fry in hell. Seriously, it is a fair question. The guy in the video I mentioned talked about it towards the end and mentions how few people showed up at LAX to wait for their loved ones. He also mentions some other anomalies and speculates that there were no planes. However, if the person above is to be believed, there must have been at least one legitimate flight involved. It doesn't discredit any of our "wild" conspiracy theories, though. We're stuck with trying to put pieces together that fit. The 9/11 commission didn't have to do that. They just whitewashed the whole thing. The person originally given the job of heading up the commission quit, by the way, because he was frustrated by his inability to actually investigate. Instead, he was spoon-fed information he was supposed to accept on face value.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I read the 9/11 Commission Report and it was a Fluff piece, they didn't supeona one document.


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MizBejabbers 4 years ago

@Rob: Under definition No. 1, I think my use of the word "holocaust" is proper. And I don't deny that there have been much greater holocausts. I think you are knitpicking.

holocaust (hòl´e-kôst´, ho´le-) noun

1. Great or total destruction, especially by fire.

2. a. Widespread destruction. b. A great disaster.

3. a. Holocaust. The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: "Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe" (Emanuel Litvinoff). b. A massive slaughter: "an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust" (Rod Nordland).

4. A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames.

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.

As for bodies, according to news stories, they are still trying to separate the cremated bones. But I forgot, this whole discussion was about the incident being faked. I don't buy the 9/11 Commission report either, but it hit too close to home for me to believe the disaster was faked. But what does this have to do with Hollow Earth, and I'm asking myself, how did I sucker myself into this discussion, anyway?


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

You started it, so we merely responded you suckered us into it, well done!

No one is saying 9/11 was faked, we are simple stated the official version is garbage!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Found another article for you to link to.

http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/First-Hand...


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thanks Lady that was a good read!


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Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

The movie featuring Doug McClure & Peter Cushing entitled "At The Earth's Core" was rather interesting and entertaining... Yeah, "They're in it DEEP, now!" You can buy that movie in color on Amazon.com, and it was made in 1976; good film! :D


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

The only reason I never took the Hollow Earth idea seriously (and never will) is that I was introduced to the subject of Physics at a young age. It's not possible for an object that size to be hollow, it's like saying, I can lift a million tons or even pounds... not likely, but if the hollow Earth is possible then you better believe I can lift a million tons, with my bare hands.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

That there are large underground military bases all over the World there can be no doubt, the Earth is honeycombed with huge caverns, underground rivers, lakes and oceans, for a city to exist underground on a scale you can't perceive doesn't surprise me based on the fact that you seem to think that the level understanding of physics humans have attained is complete.

It is not.

The only reason you haven't looked into the Hollow Earth idea is that you are narrow minded period end of story, don't kid yourself.


vince 4 years ago

why doesn't one of the individuals who put out enough info that triggers 3 million hits on google go ahead and prove this already? if you want to be taken seriously, put money where your mouth is and do like a reality tv/live feed that shows people trying to make it to this inner earth. amount of hits is nothing at this time googling "hollow earth" gets 11.9 mill hits .21 sec but HOLLOW EARTH IS FAKE gets 12.2 million hits in .14 sec. reality is that this is not possible and it will always be a theory. seriously if you believe nazis figured it out then why cannot mankind replicate the results? think about it, nazis had to do it during a war and had to keep it a secret. since so many people believe in hollow earth theory, then replicate it. if you want to believe in something there are over 1 billion CATHOLICs that exist. that is 1/6 of the population of earth believe in the Virgin Mary, the Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) Papacy etc. belief in God (which includes Catholics and other groups of Christianity) is a third of the world. the next largest group of religious people are the MUSLIMS which takes up another 1/3 of the planet. so just like the bible states Abraham's kids (the Jews, the Muslims, and Christians) will be given the earth and that is a religious fact of today go ahead and google it i can even provide sources from academia (ie. university level) sources too. don't get me wrong. I'm Catholic so I'm bias. Catholics are allowed to believe in evolution and the big bang theory is made by a catholic too. but as a Catholic, we also tread on the fence and realize until proven these are theories. i also like humouring that 9/11 is a big US run event but seriously this hollow earth stuff is too out there! i find it easier believing the Dante Inferno version of the interior of the earth then a mini sun being located there!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Many people have tried to set up expeditions and have been shut down by the US military, some people have tried to fly over the opening and were escorted by US F-15 out of the area.

So before you write a mini hub on YOUR ignorance perhaps a little research is in order!

President Lincoln tried to set up an expedition to locate the entrance and was assassinated, many very rich people have tried to prove it and they all have been shut down in their attempts.

So like the Bible says . . . get a clue because basically you are simple displaying your ignorance for the rest of us . . . talk about being taken seriously!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

You go girl!! They be brainwashed! Many are.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Oh and those very scientist and all told us many years that we would never fly either, but yet we have been to the moon ott times. How about that fish that was thought by scientists, to be extinct and here it is, not extinct at all.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

And that Lady G. is why I don't trust science!


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"Many people have tried to set up expeditions and have been shut down by the US military, some people have tried to fly over the opening and were escorted by US F-15 out of the area."

Prove it.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Scottgruber....YOU prove it.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"Scottgruber....YOU prove it."

Okay.

Every year since 2002, Polar Running Adventures has organized a North Pole Marathon, operating out of the Russian Barneo camp, running a 26.2 mile circuit on an ice floe at the North Pole. While the 12,000-Euro entry fee may be prohibitive for most people, here have been no reports of marathoners being escorted out by U.S. F-15s. http://npmarathon.com/html/20035.html

If marathoning isn't your thing, you can arrange a skiing or hiking expedition to the North or South Pole with either of these organizations: http://www.extremeoutdooradventures.co.uk and http://www.ousland.no and http://polarexplorers.com. Not a single testimonial on any of their web sites mention being escorted out of the polar region by U.S. F-15s. Nor do they mention a giant hole at the pole.

You can also charter a flight over the pole with Kenn Borek Air: http://www.borekair.com/. It'll cost a pretty penny - a few hundred thousand pretty pennies, in fact - but again, no reports of Kenn Borek chartered flights being escorted away from the pole by U.S. F-15s.

So now that I've provided plenty of evidence against the claim, can you provide one shred of evidence for it?


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Well now thank you because now we have something to work with. In her article my hub is also listed and I believe the "unbelievable" contrary to those who ONLY rely on scientific data and not what is in their other parts of their brains. I can give you just as many Scientific ERROR information as you can provide us with other evidence. Let's see what Somethingblue comes up with that isn't already in her article.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"I can give you just as many Scientific ERROR information as you can provide us with other evidence."

So can I. The history of science is filled with errors and incorrect predictions and outright hoaxes. The beauty of science is that it is self-correcting. Further research has corrected the errors, improved the predictions, and exposed the hoaxes. That is exactly why I do trust science and not the "other parts" of the brain.

Science works. Crackpot conspiracy theories do not.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

http://www.textbooktrust.org/

Someone else mentioned this and they said, "I was a Geology major in 1966 and was taught in historical geology the complex and clumsy "Geosynclinal Theory of Mountain Building" and had to regurgitate to entire process on the final. we were told by our professor that there was a new fringe theory around called "continental drift" or "plate tectonics" that was too weird to be true."


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

Current science, physics, geology... has shown that the hollow Earth theory is not possible and not believed by anyone rational.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"we were told by our professor that there was a new fringe theory around called "continental drift" or "plate tectonics" that was too weird to be true."

And then plate tectonics was demonstrated to be true by geologic evidence. Now it is one of the most well-accepted theories in all of science.

Provide the same degree of proof for the Hollow Earth "theory" and it will be accepted as well.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

'Anyone Rational' how boring

Since none of will be running the North Pole Marathon especially in the middle of the Ocean that is somewhat obtuse piece of information and hardly proof of anything.

Feel free to believe what you wish Scott if wallowing in ignorance is your cup of tea by all means who am I to stop you.


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

somethgblue, there is no evidence to indicate that the Earth is hollow, the North Pole has been explored, no one need run a marathon because no one who has ever been to either polar region has stated that such an entrance to a hollow or even cavernous region of the Earth exists. Even Carlsbad Caverns has been mapped and it can only go so deep. Do you know how magma forms? It's caused by the mass of the Earth's putting so much pressure on the lower regions that it melts rock, now the further in you would go the mass increases these pressures there by making the rock even more hot, the likelihood of a hollow Earth is laughable at best. Basic physics will tell you that. Plate tectonics is caused by the liquid rock pushing the surface of the Earth, like an ocean pushes boats or any other floating object, to put it in terms you should understand.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"Since none of will be running the North Pole Marathon especially in the middle of the Ocean that is somewhat obtuse piece of information and hardly proof of anything."

The fact that people run a marathon at the North Pole year after year and none of the participants have ever fallen into a giant hole at the pole is proof that there isn't a giant hole at the pole. It's also proof that expeditions to the poles are not forbidden by the U.S. Military.

And you're not one to be whining about something "not being proof of anything," as you have yet to ever provide even a single piece of proof for any of your claims.

Now, about those F-15s. Where's the proof that polar explorers, researchers, and marathon runners are "escorted away" from the pole?


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Plate tectonics do not cover the whole of the earth. Anything can be possible inside those rings or plates....and it is a huge area---just like the continents they surround. There be many more caverns than just the Carlsbad and much deeper too.


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Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

All kinds of freaky stuff can happen underground... I think the "hollow" concept is what throws the monkey wrench into the equation for these mechanical thinkers of limited cognitive function and science journal dependencies... Just think about all of the underground tunnels and private bases, bunkers, caves, lakes, etc. For example, does anyone here dispute that the ancient Egyptians didn't have underground tunnels underneath some of those lovely pyramids?

Intuition is a necessity when dealing with the unknown, and many of y'all are like sheep getting herded from a fictitious throne......


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

http://io9.com/5786651/10-mysterious-underground-c...

1. Petra

Built in Jordan in the 2nd century by the Nabataeans, this massive monastery is just one of hundreds of dwellings carved into the rocks.

2. Barry Troglodyte Village

People have lived for hundreds of years in this village, carved into the rocks of a hillside overlooking Rhone, France.

3. Moose Jaw

Beneath the streets of Saskatchewan, Canada town Moose Jaw, there lurks an extensive network of tunnels, full of what were once shops, factories, homes, and speakeasies. Rumor has it that Al Capone used them for smuggling, and that Chinese immigrants lived and worked there in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. There is no solid evidence either way, but you can take a tour. Learn more via Tunnels ..........


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

Lady Guinevere, where is your evidence that one, "Plate tectonics do not cover the whole of the earth." Which of course THEY DO. Do you have any idea how Carlsbad cavers is formed and why it doesn't cave in? Are you a scholar in this area? What is your expertise and how does anything you have said have any validity other than being the opinion of someone with no actual knowledge or grasp of reality?


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Oh they do, but they have boarders. On those boarders it is called The Ring Of Fire and there is where all the activity is, not on the interior portions. Just like there are pools of water and the oceans, but there is land in and around those.


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

What does carvings in rocks have to do with how deep a cavern can go into the Earth before magma spews out? Do you know how deep the Earth's crust is???? Do you know how friction works? DO you know how gravity works? Do you know how mass works? My mind is blown by how you think the Hollow Earth can be possible.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

Yes, people can dig tunnels underground. Some mine shafts go several miles underground. Erosion can also create extensive underground caverns.

This in no way proves that the Earth is hollow. All it demonstrates is that people can dig holes.


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

Insane Mundane, being able to dig tunnels and bunkers in the Earth doesn't prove that the Earth can even have the possibility of being hollow. Why don't you do some math, calculate the size of the Earth and the amount of weight an object would have to be able to support before falling apart and compare that with man made structures like say the World Trade Center, or The deepest cavern ever built and so on, you will surprise yourself... hell you'd all surprise me if you could actually do the math.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"DO you know how gravity works? Do you know how mass works?"

Well, to be fair, the brightest minds in physics and cosmology are still iffy on those.


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Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

@Artblack01: You can't even comprehend what people say, let alone do math! LOL!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

scott, well it was thought that gravity os the rotation of an object and then they change that THEORY to something else...so who knows what gravity REALLY is?

Tunnels? You mean Huge Cities that go down many, many floors.

Here is a piece of what that burlington site has...just a piece mind you:

WASHINGTON D.C. -

The House of the Temple, the Scottish Rite Masonic headquarters, sits atop the pentagram-like street layout of Washington D.C. and

reportedly connects to ancient glazed tunnels built by "Atlanteans" in antediluvian times, and also connections to a massive cavern called

"NOD" where the NSA, Sirians, and other alien species collaborate in an agenda of global domination. Several D.C. buildings are reportedly

connected by underground tunnels, both ancient and modern. source: Jon Singer; Richard Toronto; WEIRD AMERICA, by Jim Brandon

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WASHINGTON

ELLENSBERG - Mel Waters tells of a "bottomless shaft" in the Madistash Ridge near Ellensberg, about 10 feet wide. Also nicknamed Hell's

Hole. One man claims to have dropped an old refrigerator down the shaft but did not hear it hit. Also reports of military men in the area, and

residents who were told not to talk about the subject, also rumors that the U.S. military paid the discoverer a "fortune" to shut up about shaft

and "disappear". source: STRANGE UNIVERSE, April 22, 1997; Art Bell's DREAMLAND radio program

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FORT LEWIS - Many reports state that the Madigan military hospital 50 miles south of Seattle is being used by aliens [reptilian] to process

military personnel into an alien agenda. The hospital is very high-tech with at least 3 underground levels that are off limits to both civilian and

military personnel. Many claim that most of the workers at this Army hospital are "not human", and a powerful electromagnetic field has been

reported within and surrounding the hospital area. The nearby Ft. Lewis has been implicated in certain New World Order predatory activities.

source: Article by Val Valerian in THE LEADING EDGE magazine

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TACOMA - A strange hole in the back yard of Jim and Harriet Johnson's home, which "devours" everything thrown into it. Cavers explored the

hole and saw 3 cone-shaped stones that they could not explain. The Johnson's built a deck over the hole and planned to sell the house, after

former owners related their own experiences. The original owner told of being lowered down the hole only to have his oil lamp sucked out of

his hands, while another told of filling the hole with marble and 'all kinds of stuff', but the hole 'erupted' spewing stuff all over. Another filled

the hole with old tires, but the hole seemed to consume the tires, which began sinking out of site. source: EVERETT HERALD [Everett

Washington], March 17, 1980

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YAKIMA - An alien base reportedly lies below the Yakima Indian Reservation SE of Tacoma, Washington. source: THE HOLLOW HASSLE

Newsletter, Vol.2, No.2

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WEST VIRGINIA

BRAXTON/WEBSTER COUNTIES - The area bordered by Newville on the west, Helvetia on the east, Cleveland on the north and Hacker

Valley on the south [Braxton & Webster counties] contain many subsurface anomalies according to the late husband of British Canadian

Joan Howard, an abductee whose husband did survey work in the area. He told of strange caverns in the area with strange sounds of voices

and machinery emerging from within as if beyond the walls, caves containing strange hieroglyphic writings, a pipe that stands out of the

ground FAR from any industrial area which ejects a gas flame upwards, a cavern with a deep chasm near which at least one man vanished

[from his sleeping bag at night outside the entrance], and one cavernous labyrinth deep within which one man encountered a woman with no

hair who spoke to him in an unknown language, yet being unable to understand him she gave up and disappeared into the depths of the

labyrinth. source: THE SPACE - OR SOMETHING - CONNECTION, by Joan Howard

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POINT PLEASANT - 7 ft. tall reptilian humanoids with 10 ft.-span wings and glowing red hypnotic eyes were observed by several dozen

witnesses near Point Pleasant and surrounding communities in the mid 1960's. One of the most concentrated encounter areas was the

so-called TNT area where concrete domes led to several miles of underground tunnels where explosives were stored during WWII. Some

young people observed one of the creatures which they chased into one of the "domes" which covered the now "capped" tunnel entrances,

however when they entered the dome the creature had vanished. These creatures were described as being something similar to a cross

between a humanoid and a pterodactyl, and have been referred to as the Mothmen, Winged Dracos, Winged Serpents, Gargoyles, or

Ciakars. John Keel visited the TNT area personally and discovered one large circular area where an almost PHYSICAL atmosphere of terror

gripped him and did not leave until he left the "circle". source: THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES, by John A. Keel

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WEST VIRGINIA, WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS - A large C.O.G. [Continuity Of Government] facility exists beneath the Greenbrier Hotel,

containing living quarters to house 800 people, meeting rooms and banks of computers and communications equipment, 250 miles SW of

Washington D.C. in the Allegheny mountains. Also a large dormitory, infirmary, shower facilities, television studio, phone booths, dining

areas, power plant, etc. source: UFO Magazine, Vol.7, No.6; Richard Sauder

BTW I am seeing that ignorance is bliss here! Though that can be a BAD thing sometimes.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thank you for taking the time to post all of this that was very nice of you!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Dear Friends,

I am forwarding this Ark Newsletter from our expedition leader, Dr. Brooks Agnew.

He’s got some good news, money has been provided to charter the ship for our North Pole Inner Earth Expedition for next summer 2013.

If all goes well, next summer we should be coasting up to the shores of the inner continent, and we will be taking photos all the way. Of course, there is no guarantee we will make it, or get permission to enter the polar opening, but we’ll give it our best try!

Best to you all,

Rod

http://www.alienatednation.com

YOU NEED PROOF . . . . THERE IS YOUR PROOF . . . NEED MORE PROOF GO TO THESE LINKS!

http://www.npiee.org/


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

"THERE IS YOUR PROOF"

The only thing that those links prove is the old adage "a fool and his money are soon parted."

Still - I wish them well on their excursion, and hope they raise the funds to do it. It will be interesting to see how they spin the fact that they never find a hole to the Inner Earth. My guess - they'll chalk it up to some elaborate government conspiracy.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

scott you are an antagonizer and that is all you are. You wouldn't accept anything even if it was right under your now. You have no PROOF it doesn't exist. I mean actual proof. Smoke screens is all you can dish out. Think outside of the box and you may just learn something about yourself in the process.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I was looking for a word beyond pathetic but antagonizer will work . . . if all you got are tired old cliches go back to the kiddies table.

I'm sorry if the World has moved on without you but someone somewhere will have a need for your cut and paste skills.

NASA always has a need for wannabes and hasbeens.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Here is something about the imagination and that without it we would have a very dismal world. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23337610/ns/technology...

We would not have things like Cell Phones, Pagers, Skype because all were imagined first.


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

I get you guys now! This is some kind of fantasy role playing game hub where almost no one involved has any real notion about reality because it's any fantasy they can think up is literally true... In your mind.... Right?


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Just as much as you are on the internet. I can't see you so therefore you must be a game too....right.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Here is the thing for those of you that are having a difficult time with the concept of Hollow Earth, since I cannot get on a boat or a plane and go to the North Pole entrance then I cannot PROVE anything.

However because I have a brain, I can speculate and write what I know and believe.

Artblack01 your an idiot and unless you have anything useful to add, any further comments will be deleted, so don't waste your time!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Your comment is a link to the Master of Cut and Paste, wow if that is all you have, go back to the kiddy's table, your dismissed!


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

Ha ha, just thought I'd show you an article by someone who has proved how childishly stupid your hollow earth idea is. I realize no matter what I say you'll just give me your childish ad hominen attacks so why should I bother arguing with a child?


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

First all it isn't my idea, this theory has been around since the ancient Sumerians, Egyptians, Hopi, Incas and Aztecs and the list goes on and on . . . for thousands of years!

Second of all anyone that subscribes to Gruber's cut and paste writing style should be familiar with a textbook, so I suggest that you read the many references made to it . . . in say the Bible for starters (Exodus) and the 100's of books written on the subject.

However if you choose to remain ignorant you certainly have a head start on your choice of mental dexterity, feel free to grow a brain at anytime!


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Insane Mundane 4 years ago from Earth

Never trust anybody that uses the words 'ad hominem' during a debate and, even more so, when they don't even know how to spell it, like Artblack01 just displayed... LOL!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

About the only thing these so called hubbers are doing Somethingblue is bring traffic to your hub. It is great to get traffic because it makes you money! Hahahaha. Though they re a bit b-o-r-i-n-g. There are places here on earth that have never been discovered until the last 50 or so years. NOBODY knew about them before! How can that be when these two hubbers think that everything is known? How do they know that someone isn't making them up because they have never been there. How about the many animals that have been proved, without a doubt, that they are extinct, yet they have found them and they are surviving quiet well it seems. If something does not want to be found - it won't. If the government wants to cover something up--they surely will.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thanks for getting my back Lady G. and Insane, these folks obviously have a limited imagination and capacity to learn, I feel sorry for them but sure do wish they would try reading a book once in a while.


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scottcgruber 4 years ago from USA

Calling me "captain cut and paste" is a pretty strong accusation of plagiarism. Unless you can prove that I have plagiarized someone else's writing, I suggest you stop using such libelous language.

Now, if you're referring to the fact that I research my articles instead of writing down whatever made-up drivel pops into my head, fine. Guilty as charged.

And the antiquated beliefs of ancient religions no more demonstrate that the world is hollow than they prove the world to be a flat disc riding on the back of a giant tortoise.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Wow Scott, that is some ancient stuff there. I bet you never read about Gallileo (sp)and his thoughts about Earth. That's some old stuff. He also didn't believe in that Turtle stuff, but you miss the whole point. Try researching the Bible for yourself. Read a book!


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Captain P&C I was wondering when you would make an appearance, the referred to label you take offense to is in reference to your writing style, which often times make your articles read like a textbook, if that offends you so be it.

Whether or not you plagiarize material is up to the moderators to decide, not me, as I really don't care.

Antiquated religion, which is all of them, don't demonstrate the Earth is Hollow, that wasn't the point and your smart enough to know that.

The point which you obviously missed as you're coming into the conversation late is that the Hollow Earth theory is not mine and has been around for thousands of years and is even mentioned in the Bible by none other than Jesus himself.

The Aztecs, Incas, Hopis and Egyptians all have mentioned this concept in their ancient text (not religious text, mind you)!

Now that I have brought you up to speed I will expect nothing less than a full apology!

Or you could create a clever nickname for me, say like Nutard . . . or Captain Truth, you get the picture!


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

Con't forget about the Vikings. I have that in my hub about Agartha Hollow Earth, and the Bible references and the video's of such--The Nazi's were even making or had made a NEW Germany down there.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Lady G, it seems all the great Navy's of the past have their stories of Hollow Earth and yes I have read your article more than once and remember the great job you did on it.

I'm wondering if you have ever visited this site http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/ , as the author and I have shared many long conversations on the topic.

It delves with more of the modern day discoveries but also has links to rare and obscure books and data, well worth the look.


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Lady Guinevere 4 years ago from West Virginia

I have not heard of that link. I will definitely visit it. Thanks!!


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artblack01 4 years ago from New Mexico

Wow, what are you 12? Good riddance. I dont need to keep trying to convince a bunch of mentally handicapped hypocritical childish supposed adults of what reality vs bronze age ignorant fantasies.

You gonna key in on my typos like children and site a bunch of ancient ignorant myths... What have you done with your lives? Ha. Bye.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

What are you rambling about typos and myths, you been smoking something brother . . . ?!


wonderer 4 years ago

I just want to mention this. I'm new. Never heard of the hollow earth theory. But I do remember something about scientists going to Siberia to throw mics down huge and deep craters to attempt to hear and record movements of tectonic plates. When they played back the recordings what they heard was not rock movements. But voices of people yelling or screaming. I just thought it was worth bringing up


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Yeah I heard that one too, kind of funny in a way. Anyway if you are just now hearing about you might want to read Genesis for a New Space Age or any of the other links on this page if your serious about learning more.


Stan243 4 years ago

Another great hub somethgblue.

Before 1964, read an article on the hollow earth, had drawings etc and how they obtained a power source. Can't remember if their ceiling was 20 or 50 miles down and a few hundred feet further to base, like a large cavern. Cheers


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Will be interesting to see when the New Paradigm is created if this knowledge will be released to those that care to know.

Thanks Stan243!


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GetitScene 4 years ago from The High Seas

This conjures memories of one of my favorite, childhood movies with James Mason, Journey to the Center of the Earth. Excellent hub.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Often science fiction is written specifically to introduce the truth to the public and make them aware of new inventions, concepts and ideas.

In the '60's Star Trek introduced us to the cell phone and it didn't take long, did it?


RobSchneider 4 years ago

Har! Har! Cell phones? Who could ever believe that crap. That's why science fiction is called fiction, dummy.


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somethgblue 4 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

yeah . . . in my latest Nibiru update I added a piece about the flooding in Cambodia, would you give us your perspective . . . please just a short piece on what the flooding and its affects are, I will link it to mine?


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sparkster 3 years ago from United Kingdom

I did not write the following comment which appears above:

"Wow, what are you 12? Good riddance. I dont need to keep trying to convince a bunch of mentally handicapped hypocritical childish supposed adults of what reality vs bronze age ignorant fantasies.

You gonna key in on my typos like children and site a bunch of ancient ignorant myths... What have you done with your lives? Ha. Bye."

Say that to Walter Bosley, go on I dare you!


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somethgblue 3 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

It ok sparkster I deleted it, no biggie, it was months ago anyway.


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sparkster 3 years ago from United Kingdom

Thank you Blue, it's appreciated. This started happening when I had an argument with a certain other hubber not so long ago. They start posting odd comments under my username and I ended up losing a few followers over it. I'm pretty sure I know who it was. No big deal.


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somethgblue 3 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

were cool, I wouldn't have noticed it if you hadn't pointed it out.


Chris 3 years ago

@somethgblue I am a Hollow Earth Plus Plus Plus researcher I would like you to contact me atcenterstarschannel on you tube or centerstarschannel . webs . com no spaces


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somethgblue 3 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

OK I will tomorrow as I'm currently reading Tuesday Lobsang Rampa version of our (the planet Earth's His-Story), complete with the formation of our Hollow Earth and the purpose for it.

Isn't it incredible how synchronicity works in our lives, that I would be reading information that reinforces my belief in Hollow Earth (different perspective) and would get a message from someone that is a firm believer.

He is currently describing the Cave of the Ancients and the information clarifies everything I have read, believe and trust to be true in my heart and what my Overself has conveyed to me, awesome, can't wait to make contact, thanks for stopping by!


Orrie 2 years ago

I like a good science fiction story and this tops the charts.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

If it were that simple I would agree but after researching the story and concept you begin too understand that it goes well beyond just fantasy.

It becomes glaringly obvious that large amounts of information about Hollow Earth has been censored from public consumption and that alone begs the question why, after all if it was just fantasy, treat it as such and move on, why censor it?


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

Hi again, somethingblue!

Orrie, Many people are under the assumption that this is all a fantasy. When you give them facts, they will push it away. The governments do much to keep us in the dark as well as religion. Come away from that and then read all the evidence. Funny how you used it as science fiction. It amazes me that those things that were science fiction are real things now and yet they had not a shred of evidence to them and with this that has lots of evidence is shunned. Amazing how people cannot see right in front of them because of what aurthorities tell them is the truth. Why did Admiral Byrd kill himself? People do not kill themselves for false statements or evidence. Then again I watched a program a few years ago that got me into all this too and it stated that he was pushed out that window that many stories up. Why??? Does or did Germany have a NewBerlin in the Hollow Earth? There are youtubes of this stuff. Other cultures had stories of this and yet they are somehow lying?? Oh Come On now.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Your talking about Admiral Forrestall that was pushed out the window at Bethesda Medical Center, he was the originator of project High Jump that Admiral Byrd commanded.


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

Yes. I took my hub down and posted it in Bubblews and split them up. Somewhere along the line I lost some information. Thanks for the clarification.


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Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Daniel thank you for this hub. The first time I read about this incredible revelation was in: Secret of the Ages: UFOs from Inside the Earth by Brinsley Le Poer Trench. He was a firm believer in flying saucers. According to Trench other book: 'The Sky People' he claimed that the north polar ice cap melted on Mars, and this caused the descendants of Adam and Eve to move to Earth and that many of the other characters from the Bible originally lived on Mars, and that they were experiment creations of extraterrestrials. When I read his books in the early eighties I could not share this with many people, but for me I knew in my heart that there was truth in his theories.


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

Nadine, that is cool I never heard of that!! I want to learn more about the Adam and Eve and Mars and all that.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

A must read is the e-book on Scrbd called Genesis For A New Space Age taken from all government documents and whistleblowers. The Hollow Earth theory isn't limited to just this planet but all planets, just like simple cells, fruits, eggs and many other forms of nature, we have a hard outer crust with life on the inside.

The Nebula Theory is commonly accepted in today's science as explained in Marshall B. Gardeners classic Journey to the Earth's Interior and of course there is Etidorhpa (Aphrodite spelled backwards).

Then we have Operation High Jump, Adm. Byrd's journey to the interior and many other stories, including the mystery of Adolf Hitler's secret submarine base.


Dirk Steenekamp 2 years ago

Hi there!

This is the first time I gathered the guts to speak out for I feared to be made a fool.

I was 4 years old when I was taken for the first time down there, when I told my Parents the reaction was that I have a very rich imagination and have imaginary friends so the lesson was to never tell again.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Did you go in the physical or as an astral projection?

Have you written a Hub article about your experiences?

I have no problem with accepting this ascertain as fact, please elaborate.


Terzian 2 years ago

Ok been following this a while now and Dirk you have given me some courage so here goes....since I was a little girl playing in the mountains in Maine I have known of a reptilian species. Very large with beautiful eyes and strong wings. I believe they are the ones people are calling Draconians, but I came to know them as Tekorans. I have spoken of them once and was told the same as you. Have you met them as well? I would love to connect with another who has. They are incredible.


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

I do not know if I have seen them or not. Now Terzian and Dirk have got me wondering if I did see one and got scared of it and ran into my house when what I thought I saw was a real troll in my woods. We do live above a large cavern. I have never been in it but there are stories of a child dying in there because they could not find him and they covered all the entrances. I know because when we had a tree cut down after I had a garden in the trunk part, I ran water from my hose in it to see if or when it would fill up. I ran that house for 1/2 hour into that hole in the trunk and the water never came to the surface. Someone once mentioned that they saw a greenish glow in the forest too a couple of years ago.


Terzian 2 years ago

I ran too the first time but I was caught. What I have trouble understanding is why everyone says they are an evil race. I found this to be quite untrue. I was actually born deaf. The third time I encountered the one called Yallom he put me to sleep. When I woke he and another were standing over me and I could hear! They speak in a guttural whisper usually. My parents took me to the doctor and they couldn't explain my hearing being restored.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Well, just like any race or species (including ours) we have good guys and bad guys. God's love is for all species, especially not just the good ones.

From my research they were the original species on this planet and went underground during the event that wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago.

They got a bad reputation from the treaty they made with the human bad guys of area 51 and also from David Icke's books.

When the truth is revealed, hopefully soon, I suspect we will get quite the surprise in terms of how many different races of beings actually live on and in this planet.


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Lady Guinevere 2 years ago from West Virginia

I read somewhere that they would surface in 2021 or thereabouts. We shall wait and see. Oh an you can bet the scientists and religious folk will say they are evil in some way or another or that we just have an active imagination.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

By the time they show themselves, the majority of humanity will be well aware of the deception perpetrated on them by scientists and religious leaders.

This is the reason they have not revealed themselves en masse, because they will only do so when we are ready to accept them. I know it is frustrating to those of us that are willing to accept them but we know as they do, that the majority of humanity is not ready . . . yet.

That is why it is so important for those of us that are to continue to encourage through writing on Hub Pages and other sites our version of reality. We may never know Lady G. whom we encourage or inspire or what article or words will have the greatest impact, so we must continue to work at enlightening each other by exploring, sharing and dispensing our knowledge.


Terzian 2 years ago

I cannot tell you how good it feels to be able to speak of my friends without ridicule. Once I told my parents what happened they became angry and told me I shouldn't be lying and distorting such a miracle of God. It hurt. The Tekorans are an amazing people and I want to share them with everyone I just don't know how! I It's like having chocolate and trying to keep it to yourself. I can't do it! They also seem to have a great sadness sometimes that just breaks my heart. If I can help the world understand them maybe they won't be so sad.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Terzian, what you should do is sign up for Hub Pages and write about your friends. You will receive plenty of help getting started and it is fun and easy to do. Everything is done for you here on HPs, all you have to do is write.

It is always refreshing to know that you can share any subject and be taken seriously, as we here at HPs are friendly and encouraging.


Terzian 2 years ago

I believe I will do that. Thank you so much for helping me find a spot to begin to share them.


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Lipnancy 15 months ago from Hamburg, New York

I really enjoyed this article, I love the way the Amazon capsules serve to get more information on the subject.


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somethgblue 15 months ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Genesis For A New Space Age by John B. Leith written 1980 but never published (go to Scrbd.com to read for free) is based on FOIA, whistleblowers and Government Insiders such as Adm.'s, Col.'s and Gen.'s and describes how many intelligence agencies treat the Hollow Earth concept as a foregone conclusion.

Also Etidorpha (Aphrodite spelled backwards) is probable the most complete fascinating read on Hollow Earth based on the disappearance of Freemason William Morgan in the 1830s and his journey into Hollow Earth through Mammoth Cave Kentucky, great read.

Thanks for reading.

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