Power To The POs. Some Venom Can Be A Good Thing

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State Of The Onion Address

Since I've been on HP right about 6 years--I can't remember the exact date--I thought I'd get a few things off my chest. Surely I've earned that much for all of the money I've made HP. I really don't care for the ways things are smelling......er....going lately.


I realize HP is a business and it's only natural for them to do what they think is best, it's just that I think they're making a mistake alienating writers with the silly labels they put on things. But I don't have to tell them that, I had it out with them before about calling ordinary members with the Elite label.

This Editor's Choice and Related Hubs controversy is just an example of what I'm referring to. HP will simply ignore those who do not like it until they get tired of complaining. Same old same old. Okay, time for a tale. And then the real stuff.

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WILD FLYERS IN THE SPRING

There were six of us young men waiting this late March evening, trying to stay cool and hidden in the shade of the trees on the west edge of a vast cleared area. The site was deep in the wilderness near the Okefenokee Swamp, owned by a pulpwood company which grew trees like a crop of corn, albeit a bit longer for the yield to come in.

Our “mission”--as we liked to call it-- was not scheduled to begin until after the sun disappeared from the Georgia sky as darkness was preferred in our line of work. Our “line of work” being the importation of Colombia’s finest smoking product. Yes, a bit illegal for this time in the late 70’s, but we knew the government wasn’t telling the truth about the innocent herb, so we did out best to ignore it. Besides, it was both exciting and rather lucrative in the bargain.

This day however, we heard the humming of radial engines long before sunset occurred. The old twin engine plane had caught a tailwind most of the way from Columbia and was way ahead of schedule. We had to scramble to get the trucks into place before it began its approach over the recently cleared woodland.

While the pilot flew as low and as slow as possible, Rick began kicking out cloth protected bales of Santa Marta Gold through a hole in the belly of the aircraft. In less than 20 minutes we had all three trucks loaded and was heading home. Another successful mission was accomplished and the herb shortage was ended.

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Once A Fighter Pilot....

After WWII ended, there were lots of soldiers coming home to continue their lives and hopes for the peace they fought so hard for. Most of them picked up just where they left off when the war started, marrying their sweethearts who’d waited so patiently, and having the children who would fill their once dubious future.

They returned much wiser about the places they once had only heard of in books and on the radio. In our small town of Clear Springs, Georgia these men were much respected for their deeds , were bolder and didn’t care to put up with local political nonsense any longer, nor nonsense of any kind. Most wanted to have peace in their lives and did so. But not all of them.

Leon Murphy was the exception to rule, a former fighter pilot who’d flown both P-38 Lightning and P-51 Mustangs, he also performed as a test pilot following the war ,flying all sorts of single and multiple engine airplanes.

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There was nothing he couldn’t fly if he set his mind to it. His son Rick and I were best of friends for many years. On the few days off from work on the farm, we would play music together, get a bit smashed as the rain fell on the cropland, and make plans only young men make in their early 20’s.

Leon was not satisfied with peacetime, I suppose. I can only imagine piloting the fastest piston driven aircraft in the world, and the Mustang was certainly the fastest. of all the fighters during WWII excepting the German jet which was introduced late in the conflict.

Unlike today’s modern fighters, you had to actually see the enemy with one’s naked eyes and not on a radar screen or long distance camera. Leon could actually see the enemy pilot he was shooting at, could see the 50 caliber bullets tearing the aircraft apart, could see the pilot bailing out if he were lucky. Yes, it was a close-up and personal war in those times.

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Tales Of War

I’d often ask Leon what he felt during an air battle, wanting to understand what he went through and felt during his many dogfights. A hard drinking, hard fighting, stocky and strong individual, I’ve never met his like before and will never again. “How did you know where the enemy was coming from, Mr. Leon?” I asked.

“You turn yore ged dim head around and look high and low,” he replied sarcastically. Ask a stupid question, I suppose. He said, “During a dog fight I didn’t know if I was flyin’ upside down or not, I was so intent on either downing the enemy or getting out of his gun sights.”

He seemed to have no fear of dying at all, except perhaps, dying of boredom. In fact, Leon's face shone with pure serenity as if he was completely satisfied by retelling his exploits

At any rate, during the late 70’s Leon decided he had experienced all of the peacetime he could handle and hooked up with some backers to start his own import company. And that’s how I and several other local young men became part of the “missions” Leon flew. I suppose we needed a bit of excitement of our own

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The Business

At any rate, during the late 70’s Leon decided he had experienced all of the peacetime he could handle and hooked up with some backers to start his own import company. And that’s how I and several other local young men became part of the “missions” Leon flew.

At first we merely played it by ear. All of us could fly as it was considered a rite of passage in this area of the south. We looked for likely spots for a large plane to land in an isolated rural area. We also figured the logistics of the mission including refueling the plane while the unloading process took place.

Several times I walked a deserted runway at night because I was accustomed to measuring farmland in this manner. The runway had to be long enough to handle the aircraft’s arrival and departure. Rick and I took turns as Leon's Copilot on some missions.

I could tell you stories of being lost in the Columbia countryside because of a malfunctioning radio on the plane, or of hearing officials scrambling jets over Cuba because we violated their airspace briefly.

But you wouldn’t believe the tales. You had to be there, I suppose. We were lucky on most of the flights, but after a few close calls with the law and airplane mechanical problems, all of us but Leon had had our fill of the business.

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Flaming Out

Not many months after we quit the missions, there was a report of a plane crash on the news. The night before, DEA agents had forced a suspected drug plane into the ground, creating a fiery explosion when the aircraft struck the trees. It was on TV I all of it’s flaming glory.

There were no survivors of the horrible crash. Leon was only identified by a previously broken bone in the few pieces of his body remaining after the intense heat of the fire. It seemed a shame that such a valiant soldier ended in this manner, but I suppose he was satisfied going out that way. It did seem strange he didn’t try to take the agents plane down with him, knowing him like I do.

Several months after Leon’s funeral I received a telephone call late one night. “What the ged dim hell are you doing,” the voice asked. “Is Rick there?”

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Marcy Goodfleisch profile image

Marcy Goodfleisch 19 months ago from Planet Earth

The meeting is now called to order . . .


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paradigm search 19 months ago from SoCal, USA

Present.

Randy, great hub! No plans for forum excerpts. :D


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

HP cares not for my input anyway, Para. Thanks for reading :)


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diogenes 19 months ago from UK and Mexico

You're all crazier than me down thar...that's why we love you! HP? All about money.

Bob I guess Leon made it then??


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Bob, long time no see, you ole dawg! Yes, you're right about the money from HP's viewpoint. :(

I never saw Leon again after that late night phone cal, Bob. He's almost certain to be dead by now at his age. A friend actually ran up in him accidentally several years later in a large city up the road, but Leon fled when he saw he was recognized. Can you say "witness protection program"? Thanks for your time and drop in here occasionally if you have time.


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Phyllis Doyle 19 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Interesting story, Randy. Ol' Leon ain't giving up yet.

I certainly do not agree with the EC program the way it is run. In the first place, they should never automatically enter everyone in. The default is backwards - it should be "click yes IF you want to join."

At first I was excited about the EC awards, until it dawned on me what is actually going on behind all the prose. I think EC and HubPro will eventually fade away like all the other "great ideas" did. Lettuce us all prey. It makes me think of the Carol Burnett Show where some guy gets paid for sitting in a back room thinking up all the stupid things Harvey Korman and Tim Conway could screw up and get laughs for. Gawd ! I hated those skits !!!


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for the time, Phyllis! :) I think everyone would agree with you about having to opt into the EC program rather than opting out. Apparently, HP knows the non-active members wouldn't ever know about the program so their hubs couldn't be counted in the stats as a plus in the forums.

In my almost 6 years here, I've learned to read between the lines when HP is touting a new program.

Don't ever imagine HP didn't know it would piss people off the way they set the EC option up. As with the crappy and unethical RS--they call them something else now--on our hubs, HP simply ignores our complaints until we go away. Great folks they are. :P


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diogenes 19 months ago from UK and Mexico

Unless I'm missing some, I always read your hubs Randy: We're kindred spirits I think

Bob


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'll take that as a compliment, Bob! I imagine we've both had a lot of wind in our faces. :) The things young men do.....


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Lady Guinevere 19 months ago from West Virginia

I am here and your posts will be the only ones that I will comment on. I left a comment on your other hub and it went twice. You can delete one of them. Isn't there some way that HP can get the person's IP address. I am about ready to sue some people. One os now posting stupid messages to my blog. The only place she could have gotten it was this hub and facebook. She claims that I am the one harrassing her and she reporting me for that on here. Following me to another internet site and posting carp would be harrassing by her. It came up as anonymous so I could not see who it was,but I KNOW! She says that she doesn't hate me but she only wants me to be saved. She is out of bounds now and I am thinking of taking legal action if she continues.


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Deb! I wouldn't pay that person any attention at all if I were you. I read the comments on the link you gave and you said nothing wrong at all. You simply cannot take zealots seriously.

Glad you'll be around on my hub. :)


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Lady Guinevere 19 months ago from West Virginia

I know, but others are and that is what is urting me here. People say that I writ good articles and such, BUT in the last two months I have not gotten many views at all...I mean like one a day on not even half of my hubs. Now I know what is going on and HP is watching me every time she reports me. The thing is I am not harrassing her. My Ministry reputation is going down the drain for what Graseinus keeps posting. H=ll what am I to do? HP doesn't want to do anything with any of this, so I must leave and not comment on onything or anyones hubs because I will be pounced on. I never said anything to either one of them. Apparently the messages are still there and they have not been done anything with.This is not the first, second or third times. It has been going on for years and I am at my breaking point. Bullying wears down a person no matter how strong others think that they are. The only thing that one person is going to "MAYBE" understand would be to be taken to sourt for harassment, bullying and slander. I can't handle anymore of this crap and it isn't even on my hubs...and that is the insidious part.


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Randy Godwin 19 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Only you know how strongly you feel about it, Deb. Do what you have to get some peace of mind. Simply writing good articles doesn't cut it here, unfortunately. I see good writers complain about not getting traffic and earnings all the time.

I'm very fortunate I have experience in a few areas and got the hubs published before the competition followed suit. That's it.......mostly luck. I hope you find the answer to your other problems in a manner you are happy with. I don't like my friends to be sad. :)


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Lady Guinevere 19 months ago from West Virginia

I don't like being stalked and bullied and push into some invisible corner.

It is none of their business to tell me that I need to be saved! She doesn't read....period. She is definitely in some kind of cult and hounds me everywhere on hubpages. I would say her name but then she would claim that I am harrassing her. There are many others who do this too. I would name all of them too but it would result in more harassment.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 19 months ago from Planet Earth

Lady G. - are you deleting her comments & controlling what appears? If nobody else can read them, she's spamming and harassing, but not harming you (other than driving you crazy - and that's bad enough, to be sure). If you deny her comments and report them as spam, maybe HP will follow the trail and ban her? You've probably already done this - just wanted to ask.


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Jodah 18 months ago from Queensland Australia

Great story Randy, even more so that it is factual. Reminds me a little of a book by Bryce Courtney called "Smokey Joe's Cafe" about a group of Vietnam vets who start growing marijuana to pay for the medical treatment for one of their daughters as a result of Agent Orange exposure....

As for the EC program, what I see as the worst change is that only EC hubs are now considered for "Hub of the Day" so if you opt out you aren't eligible for that either. Along with HubPro, it is causing a lot of angst among hubbers. When hub pages sends out a survey...instead of asking one pointless question like "Would you recommend Hub Pages to a friend?" they should ask for people's feedback on Hub Pro, Editor's Choice, Hubber Score etc, and show that they actually value feedback. Voted up.


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bravewarrior 18 months ago from Central Florida

Great story, Randy. It's kinda spooky that Leon made a phone call when he was declared dead. In reading the comment thread, I see he was more than likely placed in the Witness Protection Program, which tells me the crash was set up.

I love your stories. I think what the community thinks and how they respond to your hubs is more important than what HP think. As in most companies, the workers are more in tune with what makes a company run than the officers. I just wish policy would quit changing.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Marcy Goodfleisch, The comments are not on my hubs. Therefore I have no control over them.

On My Questions, I guess that I will have to flag all her comments as Spam.

On other people's questions, she is also harrassing me and I cannot do anything about that. I cannot delete anything on other people's Questions or hubs.

On my personal Blog she also wrote a comment about me harrassing her. I deleted it. I have now set all my blogs to that I have to approve every comment now. She followed me, not the other way around.

Where is MY freedom of Speech around here...just here. I am not worried about getting paid or not. I just want my rights to Freedom of Speech


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I don't blame you - so sorry this is happening to you.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Jodah, thanks for reading this tale from my younger days. I haven't heard of Smokey Joe's Cafe but it sounds like a good book. Oh the things we get into in our youth. :)

I agree with you on the way HP slips these things in on us these days. I hope they wake up and consider the writers more than they do presently. Thanks for stopping by!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good morning Brave Warrior, thanks as always for your nice comments and your time. Yes, I was spooked by the phone call but relieved too if you can understand the situation.

Yes, I'm disappointed in HP at the moment, but then, I don't know their financial state and that does make a difference I suppose. I hope things will eventually settle down before it's too late for us.

Thanks again, Shauna! :)


DJ Anderson 18 months ago

Hi, Randy,

Good to see another article. I did so hate to have to look at those snakes!!

So, this tale has more truth than fiction. You are simply full of surprises.

Leon sold out and turned over info to the authorities. He did not get too far. They usually move you to an entirely different section of the country.

Maybe, he came back for a visit. Bet that phone call made you wet your pants!! LOL

How's that book coming along? Yes, I'm gonna ride you like a bucking

bronco until that book is finish. But, since I am a lady, I have to ride

sideways. My arse is getting sore! So, get er done!

My best to you, sir.

DJ.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey DJ, glad to see you! I decided to leave the snakes off this time just for you. LOL! I assume Leon was in the WPP but don't know for sure as I never talked to him after the last phone call. I do know he was involved with some heavy hitters after our little business shut down. He still had lots of family around so that may be the answer as to why he was so close to home. Many of the players in our group are dead now, all but 2 of us in fact.

This isn't my usual type of tale, but I thought Leon and the others would like to have the experience put down for others to enjoy.......or simply know. I've been on a writing vacation lately but still putting some tales away in case I decide to use them in a book.

I appreciate your staying on my asp re the book, you aren't riding me no more than Beth is, but I'm trying another approach other than going the ebook route. Still enjoying the craft though and doing more research than writing at the moment.

I always look forward to your take on my tales, especially the fictional ones. Thanks again, DJ. :)


DJ Anderson 18 months ago

Randy, I have been writing a WWII fictional novel. When I started my little venture, I had no idea my main character was going to end up in the military in the Pacific Oceans, of all places. So, my nose did not see the light of day for almost a year of research. I mean, I research every little item down to the cigarettes they smoked in WWII.

I never cared for history growing up. So, this novel has not been burning a whole in my gut for years. I knew who won the war, and that is about the sum of my WWII knowledge.

I can see the white dot at the end of the tunnel. I do hope I am not looking at the ass end of a white tail deer!! It could take another six months to wrap up some loose ends, and then I will find an editor

and start the re-writes and changes. "One day as a time, sweet Jesus, one day at a time."

I rarely publish anything on HP. I stick around for the friendships.

There are many good people around here, and I treasure them all.

Even the Georgia backwoods people who are not getting their book

written. There is renewed purpose in my life. Needle you until I see that book in print!! LOL

DJ.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I can't wait to read your book, DJ. I've always bee a fan of history and I appreciate the research you are doing to get everything just right. My father was a D-Day veteran--Omaha Beach no less--so WWII tales are right up my alley.

I'm working toward a novel about how and when they cut the vast timberlands of the Okeefenokee Swamp and am really enjoying the research from that time. Good luck on your novel also. :)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

See what I was talking about guys, the threads asking about the EC program and related hubs have died a slow death in the last few days. HP staff has no intention of answering everyone's queries in a clear manner and are merely waiting for the complaints to fade away. I don't think very much of HP's integrity these days, and certainly not enough to trust their in-house affiliate programs. Too bad, this once was an fairly honest company. :(


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I opted out of their elitist programs about a week ago. They did me no good to begin with.


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snakeslane 18 months ago from Canada

Hi Randy, I keep seeing the Johnny Depp character and story from Blow, such a parallel tale and time frame, and the Elton John song 'Levon' too... And no snakes! (well, 'til now) But still plenty of venom. You write so well in the history/mystery genre. I wonder, did Leon bail? Or is he out on bail when he makes that phone call? As for the continuing forum on all things EC and RH and HS and HOTD, well, it's mind boggling ain't it. Cheers!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yo Snakeslane, pleased to another member of species showing up here. :P This was as true as I could tell it with nothing extra thrown in to make the tale work. In fact, I could've added much more if the hub wasn't already so lengthy. I often look back at my younger years and ask myself, "What the hell were you thinkin' Randy?" LOL!

As I told someone in an earlier comment, I think Leon was involved in the WPP, but I'm not really sure. He's sure to be dead by now, or very old at least. Thanks for dropping by, and don't be a stranger. :)


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Well I just asked for those Q's and hubs that I commented on to remove my answers and comments. I also went to my hubs and selected their comments as spam. I also hid the comment box on those hubs that they have commented on. We shall see what happens now. She is telling everyone that she is not doing what I say she is. It is all there in B&W for the mods to see. She came to my blog and told me that she was reporting me for harrassing her. I swear she has Bi-Polar or a multiple personality disorder. So I am here, but I will not comment on much, espeically if I see them commenting on it first. I do not want to be accused of "following" her. God forbide!!

The one who slandered me was GraceInUs. The one who is bugging the carp out of me is Stargrrl. She had another account that got banned for the same things that she is doing now. A few others do not want her to come close to her. She has singled out three of us that she thinks got her account banned. I don't want to even see her name anywhere on here.

HP will not salve the problem with a simple act of allowing us to block anyone. That would solve lots of problems!


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mary615 18 months ago from Florida

I really enjoyed reading your story! Bet that was strange to have received a phone call from Leon. Hey, who knows....you just might hear from him again.

I miss seeing you in the Forums when you signed off as SSS.

I opted out of EC and HubPro when it firs started. Guess I'll never get another HOTD, huh??

Hope all is well in S. Georgia; I still miss those hills and trees!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Well I just received an e-mail telling me that they unfeatured a hub that has been published for nine months. It wasn't because of inactivity. It got that. They gave me the run around of it was too spammy or had too many amazon capsule. It has been featured for nine month and they are just now telling me this. I have not done a thing to it from the beginning. I do not think they know what they are doing at all anymore. We shall see if it is featured again tomorrow. I wrote back to them telling them it had been featured for nine months and that I did not change a thing. scratching my head


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hi Mary, so glad to see you here. I'm very pleased you liked my story, but I'm almost sure I'll never see or hear from Leon again. I do have some very fond memories of him, and especially of his son who has been deceased a few years now.

I too miss the old days when the forums created all sorts of interesting conversations and controversy. HP has destroyed them for everyone but the newbies it seems.

I too opted out of the EC program just as soon as I realized I was already in it. LOL! What a scam HP tried to pull on us. :o Who cares about HOTD anyway as it's merely another gold star for good behavior at the very best.

Yes, all is well down here in the swamps. Drop by again and chat if you have the time, many others do. Thanks for your nice comments :)


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Jodah 18 months ago from Queensland Australia

They have tightened the regulations Lady Guinevere and you are now allowed less Amazon and eBay capsules per word count, however older hubs are not reviewed for this until they are edited. As soon as you do, if the word count isn't sufficient you are hit with a "spam" violation.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

John is right, Debbie. HP is experimenting with our articles once again. Too bad for us.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I didn't edit it. I did hide the comment capsule though.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Debbie - the ratio is now 100 words per capsule, I think, and capsules can't have more than one item in them. The word count is for the whole hub, not the adjoining text capsules. Just add some text and you'll be fine. Or remove a capsule or two. They're going through older hubs to make that change.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I took most of the amazon capsules off. No biggy I can have as many as I want on my blogs.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Jodah, I wonder if it is best to just not have any more Amazon and eBay caps at all. I usually have one or two per hub.

I had eight EC hubs and one HOTD. When I opted out of the programs do my hubs return to my own sub-domain? I think they would, but am not sure.


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Jodah 18 months ago from Queensland Australia

Yes Phyllis, I have only been putting one Amazon capsule on most new hubs. It's easier than having to struggle to have them published. I think that is the case when you opt out of EC and HOTD...they should revert back to your own sub-domain.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Good. Thanks, Jodah.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I've had to separate the Amazon capsules in some of my older hubs and they seem to be okay, guys. i have no problem with having enough text to cover them as I tend to be long winded anyway. :)


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

LOL - Randy, it is a good thing to be long winded, especially in your case, for that gives us the joy of great articles to read.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Suppose so, Phyllis. Anyway, I put a lot of words out there so some of them may strike home. LOL!

I hate those audio ads that pop up on the main feed! I hope HP makes a lot of money on the crappy things!! :o


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I didn't know we had audio ads, Randy! I usually leave my speaker off, because the dings and pings from incoming mail or other things (FB, for example) annoy me. If I landed on a site with an audio ad (and could hear it), I'd leave the site immediately. No wonder traffic the site is struggling.

In other news - I love your story here - is this an installment of an ongoing saga? You really, really need to write a novel. How many times have I told you that???


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Marcy, you can turn off the sounds for messages and such on FB in your account settings.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for reading this one, Marcy. This is actually a true story with the names changed, of course. I didn't have to embellish anything--nor did I want to--in this story and only decided to relate it because most of the main players in the saga are deceased now.

I simply wanted to have the experience out there in honor of Leon and the other guys. I really didn't tell everything that happened and tried to keep it short. It may indeed make a good novel someday. :)

About the audio, It was on the main feed at the very bottom and was about applying makeup to one's face. Not very interesting to me for some reason. :P


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Neat as pigs#it! I've been here 6 years today. Still stupid though! :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Well now ... all the best to you on your 6 year anniversary, Randy. So glad you have stuck around.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I just wonder how long the site can stay afloat with the way things are heading now, Phyllis. The staff may be smarter than they act, though. :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I don't know, Randy. ATM it just seems hopeless. I will just keep on keeping on and see what happens. I read a very discouraging article today that made me wonder about a lot of things. Although the article is by someone who is known for stretching the truths, it is still disconcerting, yet interesting..

http://www.infobarrel.com/HubPages_The_Truth_Behin...


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Phyllis, that article is areal downer and makes a lot of sense as to why HP is going the EC route. I wonder why the author didn't simply unpublish her work?


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I wondered about that, too. It would have been the easiest thing to do. There are some pretty harsh statements made, but something is ringing true, me thinks.


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Jodah 18 months ago from Queensland Australia

I just read that article, it is a bit concerning. There's even one of my forum posts there. I did as she suggested and did a Google search of my name and editor's choice and nothing related came up though.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I have not done a search yet. Maybe in the morning. I am all tuckered out for the day. With the therapist and nurse visits today I missed my afternoon nap. :( This recuperation is going to be a long one, I think. But, hey! I am walking!!! and feeling positive about it all.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I opted out early as soon as I found out I was in the program already. Very sneaky of HP--not that they're incapable of stealth--as we've already discovered with the Related Search crapola. :o.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Take care of yourself, Phyllis. No need to overdo it just cause you can. :)


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

:) Thanks, Randy. You are right. Night.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! My highest scoring hub is one HP has idled(unfeatured). I've noticed all of my idled hubs have high scores. This is bullshit of the finest sort IMHO. :(


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

"The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane."

- Mark Twain


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

As for bullshit - if one is going to go to the trouble of using it, it should be the epitome of crap.

- pdburns


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Again I say, Happy Hubbaversary, Randy - celebrate to the utmost and be proud of your Southern qualities.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for the anniversary wishes and for the quotes also, Phyllis. Twain is one of my favorite authors. :)

I am indeed proud of my southern qualities.....both good and bad. :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

ah hahaha - good for you, Randy.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Congrats on your anniversary, Randy! Now - when will you write that novel???


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Checking in to the new venomous meeting place. I'm well on track to make less than one dollar on my few hubs this month. It used to be nearer twenty at the best times. On the other hand, a hub that was idled for no traffic is now doing well on my own site. I've added a couple more pages, but the ex-hub gets a lot of the traffic and by itself earns about fifteen dollars or so a month from Adsense plus makes a few Amazon sales here and there.

I'm opted out of EC and HP Pro because I don't trust the management here. To be honest, the only reason I would care about this place folding is because I would lose the opportunity to talk toxically with you lot!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Marcy! Gotta find the right subject for a novel as I'm more of a short story guy. Still looking though. :)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey WA, and welcome to the new PO hub. It wouldn't be the same without you. The whole idling thing really gripes my asp at this point. Sure, one may merely edit it and it flies again, but this seems to defeat the whole purpose IMHO.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Randy - go with your short stories, then - the literary magazines are still looking for new talent. I think your writing is a perfect fit for those. You could then publish a collection of them, and the lit mags would get the attention of publishers.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

WA - if you read this, can you send me a link to your site? Do you have a stand-alone site, or are you on a blog site? I need to seriously consider going elsewhere.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Marcy, I fell comfortable with my short tales at the moment and not really too keen about writing a novel. Not that I'm not wordy enough, but I have yet to find a plot I feel could be really caught up in, except perhaps one..... :)

Thanks for your continued encouragement though. You never know...


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snakeslane 18 months ago from Canada

Hey Randy and POs, I just read the info barrel article. (Thanks Phyllis!) I've been following forums here for years now, and been so confused! But that article really pulled it together on the EC conundrum (and a whole lot of other worrisome stuff). Wow! Happy Anniversary to you and Beth Randy.


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Message sent, Marcy. Won't be around too much over the weekend as I have a job to finish and am making music most of tomorrow: playing with my West Gallery group around the National Trust estate at Tyntesfield most of the afternoon, and then dashing back to rehearse in the evening with the Welsh choir I joined last week.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Snakeslane, but it's my 6th HP anniversary, not our wedding date. We've been married over 40 years now. Seems like a 100! ;p


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snakeslane 18 months ago from Canada

Oh HP 6th anniversary! Congratulations! And 40 years of marriage is a very long time, statistically you and your wife are dinosaurs...:)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yep, we are old reptiles of some sort, Snakeslane. :P


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

A great non-fic one to start off Power to the POs. Happy going to you and Beth for over 40 years and congrats on your 6 year anniversary on HP too my friend.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Oh as usual from me. A wise old mentor once told me you could judge a man by his wife. Using that criteria you come through with banners waving and flags up high.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Good Sunday Morning Everyone!

@Randy Congrats on your 6 yyear Anniversary since your bagan here!

@Alastar, good to see you around.

@Marcy I hope that you got your noises fixed.

I have been really busy with my blogs and have been posting them almost on a daily basis. This is just the second story about one of the cats we just got. I hope that you enjoy it and hey, visit the other bolgs that I have too. Oh and I have a Virtual cat on some of them, go pet and make it purr for you. I thought that it was so cute and had to have it on my blogs. Anyway here is the new blog about my new cat,

Sidney:

http://allmyanimaltales.blogspot.com/2015/03/sidne...


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks to both Alastar and Debbie, and good morning to you both. :)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'd wager both Cynthia and Carol--the last 2 HOTD recipients are unaware of being in the EC program. HP seems to choose those with little activity on the site which supports the article Phyllis linked here.

Making everyone opt out-- instead of into--the program was a very slick--as in owlshit--move. We're are dealing with some blatantly obvious people it seems. There's more than one way to skin a site......er.....cat, as Helium found out when they crossed me. :o


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Did you guys get a chance to read the 'original' announcement about EC? I found the old thread and old blog link & posted them in Cardisa's thread (which has been renamed).


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Well, good mawnin', Cap'n

Good morning to you, Sir

Hey hey yeah

Do you need another cat skinner

Down on your new mud run?

Hey hey yeah

He heeeee, he he, he heeeee he he!

Bill Monroe can get this place jumpin" - yeah!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc55MGuC5WA


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good one, Phyllis! :)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes, I read the original announcement, Marcy. What it didn't address is what the the concerns are now. It's ludicrous to think they didn't know this would stir up trouble with those who are on to their manipulations.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Para is really on Relish's asp about the referral earnings. I don't much care for her either. lol!


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I have noticed that. I hope he does not get himself banned. He is going full-force on it.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Randy - they didn't have the current plan in place when they created the EC idea. It was a way to tag hubs they hoped to use to promote the site, but there was no real plan or implementation. It took more than a year before we saw the accolades, banners, and other things. And now they're using the EC labels to drive traffic away from non-participants.


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GusTheRedneck 18 months ago from USA

Hi Randy - Just wanted to thank you for a story that was enjoyed for its words and for those really great pix. As for my own advice to all who have so many tons of complaints about one thing or another (a number of the comments in this batch of many...), it would be to never complain and wail about spoiled milk. After all, no one would drink that stuff, would they?

Have fun today, Randy, and write another one.

Gus :-)))


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Hey Gus, spoiled milk becomes cheese and yogurt and other great stuff.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

What Lady G sed. Gus! :) And I, for one, luv me some cheese. Thanks for dropping by and don't be a stranger. Thanks for the kind words re my story also. :)

Randy


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GusTheRedneck 18 months ago from USA

Hello again, Randy - Sure enough, I see what the good Lady G wrote. Cheese is one thing. SPOILED milk is yet another thing. Here is what someone more expert than I will ever be about cheese (and I suspect that Lady G also will ever be) had to state about using spoiled milk to make cheese, yogurt, and the likes -

("I was going to close this as a duplicate of Can soured raw milk be used to make yogurt? but I guess there is a distinction - that question is talking about milk that is only on its way to spoiling, for which the answer is "maybe", and this one is about milk that's actually spoiled, for which the answer is definitely "no". Still, I think the OP might have inferred that if soured milk is a bad idea, then spoiled milk is a very bad idea.")

p.s.: Lady G is ticked off at me because I suggested she avail herself of a dictionary. Evidently she is into some sort of battle of the bible with someone. I do not mind her above comment at all, but a book on cheese-making is one that I would also recommend in addition to that dictionary.

I sense that you may have taken my earlier advice and that you ARE having fun today.

Gus :-)))


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Been in a particularly bad mood lately, but I'm perking up. :D


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sure enough, Gus! :) Fun is my middle name.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@Gus, she and her other have been banned and uh oh HP unbenned the both of them. I was not the first to send in a complaint. I was not the ONLY one to send in a compalint. I now have to go behind doors and write the hubber an e-mail telling them what I think and like about their hub. I am pulling off hubs that I have here that have been unpublished for a while and putting them on my blogs. I also had to make all the comments that I get on my blogs as moderated because of these two individuals. In my mind I have forgiven them two because now (and that isn't up to me) they are going to be reaping what they have and are sowing. Oh it won't be right now or next week, but 10 or 20 years from now they will "get it". No good deed goes unpunished". I do not go bother her anymore becaue me being in all that smally trash will only me more of that and I am not going to do that.

So yes I am having fun building MY own blog with my religious and spiritual stuff that I do understand to be in the Bible. I also have blogs about my animals, fod and recipes and histoircal and other subjects. It is fun because *I* control who posts and who does not and what they say and what I can advertise.

Have a great day! I have to do laundry today..which is not all that much fun, but it is a must.


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GusTheRedneck 18 months ago from USA

Dear Lady G - It is my hope that you, your blog, your animals. and your posts prosper, and that your laundry today comes out clean and smelling like a rose.

Gus :-)))


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Gus, LOL Smiles! Thanks!


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Got forum banned for a little while. No complaints; I deserved it. I guess I'll have to confine my missives to here for the time being... :D

Meanwhile, I've dropped the EC program. HP won't move any of my low-traffic hubs to their main domain. So there is no longer a reason for me to risk HP suddenly deciding to move my high-traffic hubs.

AdSense is still perking along, but I'll probably switch back to HP ads when I reach payout. Not a total loss, I'll get 2 payouts next month instead of the usual 1.

All well here.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I figured you might get your legs switched, Para. None of my forum bans were because of rants. Most were for joking around with the religious cults. Apparently they didn't get my humor. :P

Of course,some of my bans came after asking hard questions from a former staff member on the forums. HP doesn't like hard questions...

Been outside all day as it's in the 80's and spring has sprung.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

There have been so many wrong things going on around HubPages lately, it's starting to get to me. I only want to hang around good karma and happy places. Kind of a basic mental health rule that. Even though during my days as a programmer/analyst I could work almost anywhere; it is why I've never been caught working at hospitals, courtrooms, collection agencies, and other bad karma places. I also never watch the evening news. I need the money here, but I might just self-ban myself from the forums; it's just one bad news thing after another. Meanwhile, some of my website posts are now getting organic traffic after only being up two weeks. I guess I'm starting to get coordinated as to topics, s e o, and such.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'll talk you through your addiction to the forums, Para. It's fairly easy until you see a thread that either pisses you off, or you want to give sympathy to an ill friend or a deceased hubber. Besides, the forums suck these days...


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Maybe I'll just not look anymore. The PO's can tip me off if there is anything I need to know about what HP is up to.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good thankin'!


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

So far, my traffic appears unaffected by the hubscore/EC Related Hubs situation. Maybe there is hope after all. Now I just need for someone to clue me when the HP ad program CPM goes back up.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Mine is on the uptick as it should be this time of year. Did you read the thread about people losing the EC status? It appears some of the EC hubs are continuously switching from the subs back to the main site and vice verso.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Yes, I saw that. It was the final push needed to make me bail from the EC program altogether. I mean seriously, talk about killing link seniority; what is HP thinking?


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

They're thinking about gleaning more money from our work, Para. There's so many ads on the feeds, the forums, and our own pages during our time share, and they now want even more.

The whole EC thing is a joke, but it's not very funny IMHO. :(


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

There really is getting to be too many surprises around here. Maybe I'll just go hide.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I sorta expect stuff like this to happen, They all get too greedy and want more and more for their investment. Meanwhile, HP gets the mine and we get the shaft....


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Thank you, Lady G, read your story from the link and loved it! How are things in your beautiful state of West Virginia?


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@Alastar, they are greening up here in WV. It has been so nice here the last two days that I have my windows open. Ny husband also asked me what bulbs that I want to plant in my grens this year. So I am planning those. I am giving up on vegetables for the time being. It is just getting to be harder and harder to do now that I have my blogs and things. I don't have anyone to take care of them if we go away.

Thanks for reading my blog. I have a few blogs. I will get my own domain for them as soon as I get money. This one is not so expensive, but it is the same problem...money and I don't have any. lol


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

All you gardeners I need help with a few things that are mentioned in my blog today: http://debshodgepodgelodge.blogspot.com/2015/03/ha...


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Just got this from am B2B newsletter and thought that I would share it. Do you think that HubPages is doing this with their welcome page and do they redirect people?

"Google just announced that it is cracking down on doorway pages with a new ranking adjustment, which will launch soon. Doorway pages have historically been known as pages created specifically to get in search results for various queries, and then send users to a different page.

This practice has long been against Google’s quality guidelines, but that’s hardly stopped people from trying it. In 2005, Google’s Matt Cutts advised people not to hire an “assclown SEO that makes doorway pages with sneaky redirects,” and that advice still holds up today, apparently more than ever.

Five years ago, Google started sending webmasters messages when Webmaster Tools detected doorway pages on their sites.

Continue Reading http://www.webpronews.com/google-just-announced-an...


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

LOL HP doesn't like google in their comments!! LOL

@Randy it went into your spam filter! It is important though for everyone to see because it is about a Google Update!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Turned your comment loose, Deb! :) Good morning to you guys.


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

I'll be posting comments under this ID for awhile. No reason to switch to the other account for the time being. Meanwhile, I've unpublished 3 hubs now. Should be able to turn them into 7 webpage posts. Any new adventures in the forums? lol


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Nope Para, staff has simply ignored any more queries re the EC hub program. That's their way of saying to the writers "we don't give a big dog f**k what the writer's like!" :o


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

I couldn't help myself and went and peeked at the forums. Sure enough, Relishe is still busily trashing other Hubbers. And it has become blatantly obvious to me that HP will never do anything to stop it. I immediately departed again.

Meanwhile, both my website and hub traffic are still doing well. Does anyone know if the HP ad program CPM has bounced back up yet?


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Not me, as I don't use HPads, Para. I earn more on Adsense.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Relish is our resident Oscar the Grouch.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

This is a given for every site or company - LOL - Gotta have an OtG on board or life gets boring.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Hope you guys don't mind but this e-mail from Nigeria is too good to keep to myself:

Hello my dear,dear friend, how are you doing? for me I'm doing alright.

Well, my name is ********* Mean while the purpose of this invitation is to express my monetary interest of friendship with you. because I like to establish a long lasting relationship with you if you don't mind accepting my offer. In addition, I like you to write back on this e-mail for confidential talk expecting to hear back from you very soon.

Yours Sincerely new friend *******

Should I reply back with something like...um,: Greetings ******, the present fee for membership in the Alastar Packer fan club is at an all-time discount of only $10,000. Look forward to hearing from you asap.

Forgive me Poisonous Ones, hope y'all got a chuckle out of this like I did.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Ask him what he means by a 'monetary interest of friendship'??? Sounds like 'the oldest profession in the world' to a degree! Hilarious! Thanks for sharing - I needed the laugh!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I get those all the time and more frequently at this time of year. I don't even read them anymore. I just delete them. Oh I also get the onenes about maile enhancements and I am not a man at all. LOL


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Ha ha...male enhancement shills to a lady...that's a good one Lady G. Hey, on checking into mine a bit more it's not from Nigeria but France of all places! Oui!


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Should have made the fan club offer 10,000 euros instead of dollars...that is if France is off the franc?


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I never had one from Fance. That is interesting.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Maybe it was some French start-up co. wanted to sell me male enhancement powders. Ce n'est pas necessaire.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Of course I sent back no reply. Pitiable is maybe the word for those kind of e-mails but it was still kinda funny.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

With friends like that, who needs enemas........:P


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I don't think of them as pitiable - they're criminals, and they know exactly what they're doing. They're despicable. A very senior gentleman in my church was scammed repeated ly. He was very trusting, and although many people tried to tell him he was being conned, he somehow thought he'd really won a car, or there really was money in a Nigerian bank just waiting for him to 'help' get it released. He wasn't dumb at all - he was just from a generation where this type of wholesale scamming hadn't been known. It was so sad. He passed away a few years ago - but not before his savings had been cleaned out, and his home nearly lost.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

It was a laugh! glad you enjoyed it Marcy. The oldest profession in the world, eh. Aren't those long-distance romances hard to maintain haha.

Your right, they are criminals and this one was stupid; of course, they were probably taking a shot in the dark that I was a lonely centenarian.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

With friends like that, who needs enemas lloll....Good one, Randy!


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

That is very sad to hear about the smart but trusting senior gentleman at your church, Marcy. Very sad. Many years ago I was good friends with an 85 year old smart gentleman who had moved down to a lake around here from NYC. Sometimes we would be sitting around his table playing chess and checkers for a decent part of the day and he would receive phone call after phone call with people trying to sell him something. This guy never bought anything and would have fun giving them the run-around with tons of questions concerning their "products". It was hilarious listening to him fluff them off one after the other. It's a shame more of our seniors can't do the same and are taken in by false lotharios and scammers(:


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

New article and VERY important For New Car Purchasers: http://debshodgepodgelodge.blogspot.com/2015/03/ar...


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Well, I can once again post my brilliant insights on the forums; however, have so far not been sufficiently enticed to do so. Meanwhile, ADSENSE SAYS MY REVENUE OPTIMIZATION IS A 2 OUT OF 5!!! What's up with that!?! I'd appreciate hearing what other people's revenue optimization ratings are. 2 out of 5 is awful and could explain a lot! Is it just me or is the entire site messed up!?!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@para, I do not know where to see that. I think everything on the internet is messed up right now and I don't know why.

I have not gotten my amazon to work at all on any site or even store that I have. It still says No Activity.

Question: Would it be a good idea to cancel or delete all my accounts with them and start over? That would mean lots of work on my blogs, but if it is the only thing that is going to work.......


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

LadyG. Have you clicked on your amazon links to test to see if the clicks are eventually recorded? Personally, I wouldn't go deleting senior accounts; new accounts have more hoops to jump through; keep the old.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy. Filter scarfed my response to LadyG.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Freed it, Para!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Yes I have just clicked on one of my amazon capsules and yes it took me to the item that I searched for.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

And does the click show up in you account reports? If so, then all is well.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Not yet because the reports are only for yesterday.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@para it did count it. Well now I know that it is working, but the sad part is no one is clicking. I dunno about all this stuff.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

@LadyG. Me and Amazon never did get along when it came to making sales. I finally realized my topics aren't suited for such and all my hubs and websites are now Amazon-free. I'm fine with it, what with Amazon hubs/websites generally being hated by Google and HP filters/moderators anyway it seems. Meanwhile, had a banner revenue day yesterday on the ad front. Hope for a prosperous future springs eternal.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@para, thank you for you advice and experience. I have not had luck with amazon either. I might just as well leave them off all my blogs.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

@LadyG. Randy seems to be very prosperous with Amazon. Poke him with a stick. :D


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ouch! You almost put my eye out, Para. Watch where you're poking that stick! :P

Yes, I make sales every month with Amazon, mostly in the spring and summer when the RVer's get into full swing. You really have to have some niche hubs and rank well for them to get regular sales on Amazon, Lady G. I was fortunate to get in early on many of my hubs. :)


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I am starting to, well already started, take off all my hubs and put them on my blogs. HP has ticked me off for the last time. It's not worth it over there anymore. Not fun at all. I have a couple of hubbers and an anonymopus person saying nasty things about me on other people's hubs and questions. I reported the anonymous one to the team since they are not a member and what I go back was that I ws the one who was bullying. Enough!!!

I simply told the writer that her hub needed some english fixes because it would not pass QAP. That was taken as that I was the one who is bullying. I did not like the content of the hub and that was cinsidered bullying by me. I did NOT call the author disgusting bt her hub content which was about the homelss. The anonymous person come on and thell her that I should not be telling anyone how to write or what is wrong with a hub...and that was not considered bullying. HP has my head spinning on their contstant changes. I cna't say or do anything here anymore without being bullied and HP staff changes the rules all the time. It's not fun. I have started removing and deleting all the hubs that I have that have been unpublished or do not meet he new QAP.

I GIVE UP!!!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Randy, my last comment went into your spam folder. Yet another reason I am quitting.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I believe one of the most important--and perhaps detrimental--aspects of the EC program has not been discussed at all. I wonder if any of the editor's approving a Hub for EC have any idea whether the articles are actually better--more facts and therefore more worthy--than other hubs which aren't label EC?

I doubt seriously they have the knowledge to pick the worthiest hub of all to be considered an EC. I'd surely like to pick the editors' brains about a few of my niche topics. Anyone have an opinion?


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GusTheRedneck 18 months ago from USA

Hi Randy - Been enjoying this hub of yours now for days and days - liked the thing to begin with, but the comments have been an endless source of continued fun and much marveling over the commenters' comments.

As to the "EC" stuff - I believe that any sensible editor would select the worst of the worst to be an "EC" hub. Editors go for things that brings out their usually hidden talents - junk writing, grammar errors, nonsense, lies, hiccups, drivel and - you know - c-r-a-p. Sorry about that, I meant to write out "v-t-o-l" (the same thing as "c-r-a-p" but without so much smell).

Kindly have fun today.

Gus :-)))


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Glad you're enjoying the hub, Gus! :) I began writing these "chat" hubs before I was banned from the forums. They grew to be a place where folks can say whatever they like as long as they don't personally attack anyone in a serious manner. Of course, the regular posters here are allowed to attack each other in a "non-personal manner" as always. :P

Re the EC hubs, I certainly do not wish for editors who have no knowledge of my niche subjects to fool around with my articles, or to slap an EC label to others in the same niche. This place is a joke at times, Gus. :o


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

"This place is a joke at times." I sometimes agree with that thought, Randy. Every time a new feature comes out, I am reminded of when I was a kid in a neighborhood abounding with kids, plus my six siblings. One of the biggest and exciting things to do was to form clubs - and we did have a lot of them. (I will get to the point eventually...)

Every one wanted to be the leader (president, captain, king, queen, etc.) of a club, so naturally there was a new club almost every day and each club leader tried to top all the others.

Now, there was a certain agenda to follow. First, the leader had to send a note in secret to kids they wanted in the club. Second, a meeting was called to list members and officers, with 'Gatekeeper' being the most sought after position. Then a special meeting was called to set up rules.

This was the BIGGEE, the RULES. The more complicated and threatening the rule, the more votes it got and was established. All rules were mandatory and if not followed could result in less importance / respect / popularity or even banishment of a member.

There you go!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

The parallels are very interesting, Phyllis. In reality, the EC hubs are not guaranteed to be any better info wise than those not labeled such. LOL! The editors themselves are not qualified to judge any of the merits of a hub other than grammar and punctuation

This program is unjustly judging and labeling some hubs as better than others only on the merits of the grammar and punctuation, not on the facts and presentation of the article. A dumbass thing to do IMHO!! :(


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Oh and lots of them are older than 2 years! That is my beef about them. Obviously they cannot, the mods, decipher anything on here that has been written within, like say, 2 weeks time. This place is pitiful and the mods are too young to know such things.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

So now we're relegated to having these rookie editors choose the best hubs on the site. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! HP is slicker than owlshit. :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

ahhhh - hahahahaha !!!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Phyllis, you can see just how much respect I have for those who do the labeling on the EC hubs. And for those who put them in this position, as far as that's concerned. So much for HP wanting us to succeed on our own merits! :o


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

You know, Randy, I have written on another site that encouraged us to make our domain totally our own - that we had complete control over our site and related forum. Yet we were constantly reprimanded by mods and editors for being creative and unique. There always has to be someone in power who keeps us behind the line.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

At one time HP required us to be on our on sub-domains when the site got the heck slapped out of it because of all of the spammy, as well as, Indian Auntie hubs on the main site. Now they want the hubs back but still refuse to remove the crappy hubs from the main site.

I personally don't care what HP wants any longer, especially since they broke the original agreement with the RS ads. I still want to stand on my own two feet....even if one of them limps a bit. :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

There is a good proverb there ... "Tis better to limp on own than to ...." hmmm, it is there somewhere.

I think it is my nap time. :)


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@Phyllis, LOL


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Enjoy your nap, Phyllis! :) Meanwhile, it's a rainy night in Georgia......


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Lawd, I believe its rainin' all over the world ....


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Whoop.....whoop.....whoop....doobie, doobie.....


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Now that's a whole other tune .... playin' at a pub down on the corner


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Where I can has cheeseburger with my tune ...


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Your 'Aftermath of Glory' is number 7 on total page views so far this month, Randy. Your showing me up dude! Love it though...just like the readers are loving that below the groin twist-ending hahah. Others...except for one, are doing quite well, too. I have to move around the direct links to the hot guest ones every month because too many to any one site affects that damn G ranking. Still leave in the way to the writers site though. Strange how the views can change month to month on them. Most of Phyllis's are doing awesome as well. Just an update for ya good man and lady.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Alastar! The views are good to hear about. I finally got my puter repaired and beginning to get back in the swing of things. I have a few new projects in the works but want to write something for my own enjoyment for a change.

I don't know if I've told you before, but one of my best friends and neighbors was a former Iranian hostage and has told me he would allow me to write his story when he gets ready to tell it to the world. Needless to say, it would be a feather in my cap to write such a tale. It will take much research for the book and I;m kinda dreading it, although it will be and interesting tale.

Hope you're doin;' well and I hope to do something for your site soon as I can find a tale to tell. :)


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Great to hear of your improvements my friend. The friend's story sounds a gem, those are always the best kind. Oh, the story with the "injury" twist-ending is "a Wall of Deadly Stone ' and as in the top 15 views for the month. Tomorrow I'll make sure there are direct links on those and another top one so far this month for sure. Tomorrow will also publish the second story on the new southern Animal pages with a guest story from a great writer to follow it in a couple weeks. Would love one from you on those Georgia asps or panthers or anything you want sometime when you can. Or another Civil War great one...shoot, anything from you would be most welcome, Randy, anytime and of course at your convenience..That's gonna be an extraordinary read with the Iranian hostage friend's story. The anticipation is already building in me my friend.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Good Morning Everyone!!

@Randy, I am glad to hear that.

@Alastar, I would like to do the sharing of others writings too. I found out that you can have another person posting on your blogs too. I am wondering if that would do any good or how it will work. I already had someone ask me to do that for them, but I don't know how much they can and cannot do.

I have 7 blogs now.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good morning, Deb! Alastar's site has several guest writers so you can ask him how it works out for him. :)


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

You have 7 blogs, Deb, wow! Assume each is a niche blog. I can only explain how it has worked on mine. Say one has several pages on different topics. From there simply ask writers whose work you admire to contribute a guest story or stories in any particular genre you have and they write about. Any pics they send with the articles are of course a plus. I also write a forward to the guest writers stories whether introducing new guests or return writers. Deservedly glowing forwards too I might add. The guest stories do great as a rule (although it can vary month to month) and the readership is happy to see them. Presumably you have stats and other info through your blogs and/or G Analytics to keep up with things. Hey, Deb. Search "The Carolinian's Archives Home" and you will see how I do it. Hope this helps you some, and yes, it's definitely worth it!


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

@Alastar, Thanks bunches. Yes each of my blogs is a niche and it was easier to keep up with than having everything on one page at google blogger. My blogs are all connected on each blog so it is easy to go back and forth to each one. I have Deb's Hodgepodge Lodge (for things that just don't fit in any of my blogs niches, Divine Dispatch (religious), Animal Tales, In-On-Above Mother Earth (everything to do with the earth and the inhabitants thereof), The Life Of Debra Kay Lewis (my memoirs), Eat Your Food (recipes and food), Whole Body Health (health articles and such), Lady Guinevere's Poetry and Gardening and Gardening Ideas.

I have seen how you do it and I liked that.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I suppose staff is getting weary pf the complaints about the HubPro BS, as Mrs. Paul has resorted to insults to those who don't agree with the way the program is being run so far. having to opt out of the deal is a sorry attempt at manipulation IMHO. :( No surprise to us veterans who've been through it before.


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Your most welcome, Deb. That is a wonderful and eclectic set of blogs you have. I'll definitely come by and check 'em out soon.

Randy, your writing a book, right? Is it a collection of your fiction stories or something else? In any case, when you publish, in whatever form, it would be an honor to have it on my Book Shoppe page. All proceeds to the gentleman Georgia writer, naturally:)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Alastar, at the moment I'm working on several projects, so I have no certain date for publishing anything.

Wow! Robin has talked herself into a corner with the HubPro examples given in the blog. One of them is a joke with profanity and misspelled words contained in the article. I'll wager she will never address that one as there's no excuse for the editor who approved it.

Did Robin even take the time to read the examples she's touting as being perfectly edited? LOLOLOLOL! I think not......:(


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I also noticed none of the authors hub examples Robin pointed to have any recent activity on their profiles. What you wanta bet they had no idea their hubs were being edited by the HubPro team? What a scam HP is pulling on us this time. I look forward to Robin explaining her way out of this one. Ain't gonna happen.......:o


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy. Yep, the riots do continue. I made a lame attempt to calm things down to no avail. Meanwhile, my main website is doing darn good these days. Google seems to be liking lots and lots of my shorts posts there. Go figure. Happy Camper here.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy, my latest comment was scarfed again. Clueless as to why.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

And the forum rioting not only continues, but intensifies. Yours truly has decided to just disappear.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'm glad folks are finally getting a taste of how things really are on HP. Paul chose the hubs which are getting so much flak on the forums, according to Christy. That should really tell you what HP wants as far as hubs are concerned.

As the content of the examples show the "quality" and viability of the info contained in them, it's even more confusing than I imagined. Screw the EC program!!!!


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

It is all such a farce, Randy - all these "wonderful programs" that are improving the site. Me thinks that eventually no one will have a choice to opt out of HubPro and EC. HP wants to concentrate on their great programs whether writers like the programs or not - hmmm ... could it then be considered a concentration camp?

I am wasting my time over in those two forums. Time to focus on my own stuff.


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Well, given PE chose the shining examples, I'm not surprised. He himself has written one that starts: "I know it's going to be a good night when I can get my wife to drink a Cadillac Margarita. They're delicious, smooth and packed full of alcohol."

Now I'm waiting with bated breath for Indian aunties to burst back triumphantly onto the front stage in all their wobbly glory.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

You ladies are an example of hubbers HP doesn't want on the forums. Meaning highly intelligent and nobody's fool. Obviously, they've already made sure I can't put in my 2 cents worth. lol! I've been enjoying reading Mrs. Paul's responses re the HubPro examples, especially the one with the profanity and boozing instructions.

I believe they've set the bar too high for this humble writer! :P


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

I just found this site yesterday and am spreading it around. It is the petition for Bubblews writers for getting their money. Here is the link and I signed it.

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/bubblews-non-paym...


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I see they've resorted to having Mr. Paul finally show up and defend the silly HubPro mess. :o Mrs. Paul and the other ladies were getting nowhere with the questions from those who dare to speak out, so they brought in the big guns.......cap guns is more like it. :P


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

LOL, LOL, LOL I always said this site was run by children or those who think we should be like them.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

As Foghorn Leghorn would say: "They are about to exceed the limitations of my medications."


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

The fix is in, Phyllis! Ever swam upstream in rapids with an anvil around your neck? It's easier than trying to deal with people who are pretending they have your best interest at heart. It's ll about the money.... :(


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

The forum frenzies still continue... It's always something around here it seems.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

HP will do what it wants, despite the protestors wishes. :(


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

This site is a motherf**ker!


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Dropping in to say "Hi," - I've been too busy on the forum to keep up my end here.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Ha haha, Randy - lots of hubbers are making the point that it is ok to use cuss now in hubs. According to HP, the profanity in Kickass is used as a pronoun, not a cuss word.

I would like to write a hub titled "The Motherf**ker of All Hubs".


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Sure is going to be interesting when the new author scores kick in...


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I thought they already had, Randy (the Hubber Scores). Meanwhile - y'all please drop by the forum and check out Paul's reply to my question about authors' rights. He said when we publish here, we 'give' HP the right to 'modify' our work. I don't recall ever reading anything like that.

If that's that's the policy, it's a game-changer. That means, even if we are not in the EC program, they can modify our content. I know there's plenty of content here aching to be modified, but I don't know how I feel about a blanket policy.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yo Marcy, Phyllis, and dude! Been outside most of the day and just checked in. Twill be interesting to see where this new freedom of expression leads.

HP is steadfast in their efforts to keep the high view hubs no matter what it takes to make them worthy. That's the real purpose of hiring the amazing new editors, not for us lowly scribblers. :P


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I don't remember agreeing to that either, Marcy. I think they pulled the old switcheroo on us with the TOS. If you read it closely it probably says something like "the TOS is whatever we say it is."

Knowing HP, you have to opt out of the TOS changes rather than in. LOL!


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I don't think the modification thing is an 'opt out,' based on the way Paul phrased it. I asked him to post the policy, and the history to it as well as any modifications to its language. In fairness - I get it; they have some really tough challenges and are working hard to move forward. I just think we all need to understand how things work and what rights we, as writers, have regarding our content.

It's one thing to unpublish something (and I have reported a ton of things that ought to be unpublished). But it's another to have the 'right' to modify our writing.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I've found out the hard way these content sites--they dislike to be called 'farms' for some reason--have well paid attorneys who cover their backs for them. Slick as owl s#it they are.


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

I'm trying to find the TOS Paul referred to & not finding it.

I know they have a tough road here - and I do admire and care about the staff and the site. I'm just trying to get my head around how their 'rules' work. I swear I did not see a TOS, ever, about modifying content. Paul says it was published or updated in 2011.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

It all boils down to "if you don't like the way we do things, then go somewhere else." I've been told that before by a former staff member. That's why I don't publish anything else here that would make them money. I know, cut off my nose to spite.....but I believe in having principles. And yes, this a difficult place to have such. :(


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

TOS is right at the very bottom of the page, in white text over a grey background

http://hubpages.com/help/user_agreement

This is interesting (asterisks are my emphasis): "You may Not:

Publish Hubs or Hub or Author Content that include any content or links that are pornographic, defamatory, libelous, tortuous, ******vulgar*******, obscene, invasive of privacy, racially or ethnically objectionable, hateful, promotes or provides instructional information about illegal activities, promotes any act of cruelty to animals, or is otherwise offensive.

But this is what you were asking, Marcy, again with my asterisks for emphasis:

"You grant HubPages a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license, for as long as Your Hub is displayed on HubPages and for a commercially reasonable time thereafter, to reproduce, publicly display, publicly perform, distribute, ******modify, adapt***** and publish the Hub Content solely for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting Your Hub on or in connection with the Service. "


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Marcy Goodfleisch 18 months ago from Planet Earth

Thanks, WA - I swear that language was not clearly incorporated into the signup process. But, it's my responsibility to keep on top of those things.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I wonder how long "a commercially reasonable time" is? Talk about some rather vague and subjective lawyerin'. Ha! Not as bad a Helium or AC though, but that's not sayin' much for HP's TOS, is it?


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

"A commercially reasonable time" is the amount of time that is fairly required to do whatever is required to be done.

What? Yes - very vague.


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aa lite 18 months ago from London

Hey POs! I wonder if the English ones watched the non-debates yesterday? (Well I know WA doesn't switch on the tv).

I was severely disappointed with Paxo. 'A chap on the tube yesterday told me that you were a North London Geek'. Really?!! That's what passes for political debate in this country?

I didn't like miliband's performance at all. All this acting tough! I thought he was going to call on Jeremy to go outside and settle the question of whether he was weak once and for all with a boxing match any minute. Although lots of commentators seemed to approve.


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

No, I didn't Aa, but I don't need to because I'm voting Plaid Cymru anyway! :) To be honest, I don't follow the machinations of the London-based parties, don't even know the names of most of the current actors. It's of no relevance, because all of them dump brown stuff all over the upper Rhondda to an equal degree.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Wow that is something about how they are allowed to modify our own content. Another small push to get my writing off of here! I do understand about it being their site and all, but man, if one was upset with someone they could damage their hubs and possibly destroying their credability, not only here, but anywhere on the Internet. Oh and I would not put it past them to do such. I watched it happen from a moderator a few years ago when he was so biased on someone's hub.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

That must have been Jason M, Debbie. Several times he asked me to leave HP if I wasn't happy here. Sounds familiar, right?


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Another HOFD by a Hubber with no recent activity, and I'll bet she wasn't aware she was in the EC program. lol! Now do you see why HP made the program opt out instead of the other way around? They're interpreting the TOS broadly now and can change those writer's hubs at will. What a load of horseshit!! Is horseshit a noun? :P


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Big wave is coming, Folks - batten down the hatches !!!

I am in the process of deleting 8 hubs that have been unfeatured since yesterday, due to traffic. AND, my hub score dropped by 5 points yesterday.

It is a noun, which, according to the definition is: a word (other than a pronoun) used to identify any of a class of people, places ...

There is more to that definition, but, it is irrelevant at this time.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Randy, you got him. That obvious!? I have had run ins with him too other than the other hubber. I am going to up my removal of hubs today. The writing is on the wall with this group of immature people with an EGO to match on staff. They know NOT what they are doing for the long term of this site. It is so sad that they are going this way....exactly how Bubblews went.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I have my 5 point harness attached, Phyllis. The only time I had to wear it before now was when I was flying in a fully aerobatic Russian airplane, and that ride was tame compared to HP's maneuvers. Ha!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yep, that was a no-brainer, Deb. Every time I got into it with him on the forums I received a forum ban shortly after. Whenever you asked him something he didn't want to answer he would suggest you take your work elsewhere.

HP has never had a good working relation with their writers, as far as I know. If they would just come clean about the problems they encounter, it would go a long way towards developing trust between the site and the writers furnish the content. But then, we could see all of their manipulations, and that just wouldn't do.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Randy, yes. I was banned from the forums for adding a link. Ooops, but it wasn't a link to my hubs. I never went back after that and that was the 2nd year that I was here. Everything that he would unpublish a hub(s) of mine for no apparent reason, he would re-publish then when I aksed about it. Next day it would be un-published again and still no reason was given. I went around a few times with that. Ticked me off and that is the reason why I always ask about un-featured and/or un-published hubs of mine. One time I had a hub, and I bet you remember this one, about children being violent aginst other children and it got un-published and it was the same as two others. They didn't understand why mine got un-published and theirs didn't.....personal vendetta. Yes, it was definitely a personal vendetta. On that same hub, they told me three comelpetely different reasons that it got un-published. I posted it someplace else with no problems whatsoever. I now don't have it anywhere but will put it on my blog. There are still much manipulation and I am tired of jumping through all their silly mind-boggling hoops.

*Lesson to all of you here: Write your work in a word document before you ever publish it anywhere. That way if you get the treatment that I got you can publish it on another site.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I learned to always keep my stuff on Word since I wrote at Helium, Deb. You just never know....


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

Been depressed the last couple days. Decided to follow my own advice at http://www.websitewithnoname.com/2015/03/how-to-na... and am eating a plateful of garbanzo beans and sliced up hot dogs. Meanwhile, at least it is HP payday.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

HP scarfed my comment again. Pretty obvious why. How come HP doesn't recognize a quality link when they see one? lol


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

@Randy, Debra, and Para: one writer addressed how ludicrous the new hubscore update was. He told the Power That Be that he was going to take his work elsewhere and the Power That Be responded that he should really work on the quality of his hubs. In other words, the Power That Be said that his work stunk. How motivating is THAT, I ask? HubPages is becoming more and more of a dictatorship. Good writers with previous hubscores in the 90s and above have seen their hubscores decrease significantly, some in the very low 80s and below. This is beyond egregious if you ask me. Time for all writers to REALLY strike and not to write anything until this ridiculousness cease. BTW, Randy, Debra, and Para, have a lovely weekend. Also, to all on this page, have a wonderful weekend. I am totally peeved regarding the new "update".


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Don't panic, GM! So far HP has gotten very little correct as far as what Google really wants. This whole deal can turn completely around very fast....as it usually does when the genius staff finally wakes up again. :(


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

Panic? I am beyond panic. I am quite venomous right now. If I was a cobra, I would be striking with deadly force. I used to have a hubscore in the 90s and now it is..........79. I have over a million views. What in the --------- are the idiots thinking? My writing is excellent and on some timely topics also. There need to be qualified adults not protoadults with a puberty mindset running the site. Toured the site again and there is even a good writer with many hubs whose hubscore is in the 60s. Now, I am beyond venomous at this point.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

gm, I am just going to deal with their carp anymore. I am moving. I hope that you follow and others too. Some have already. I am starting to get conversations going on my blogs now and that is a good sign. I do not ever have to worry about hubscores, hubberscores, if I pass WAP or even if my hub is featured or not and I don't have to worry about Bullies, from other hubbers or even from staff. I am tired of it all and am finally moving on.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

That was supposed to be NOT DEAL WITH.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I really don't blame you for being angry GM, and LG also. Since my dealings with Helium and AC, I don't really take too much for granted on content sites, and HP is no exception. The staff tries to make the writers think they really care about them and make moves to benefit HP and those who furnish the content which keeps them afloat.

Not so, as there's plenty of others who will jump through the hoops willingly and continue to kiss asp while doing so. I'm sorry, this is merely the way it is. :(


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Grace and Deb, like Randy says: "I really don't blame you for being angry." I so understand because I often get angry about all the changes going on at Hp. Every day it seems there is something that will stir emotions and start a sh-t kickin' forum thread.

I am sitting here today, just watching what is going on at the Hub and trying not to get involved. Coming here to Randy's hood always brings me back to Earth and into balance.

I am of the belief now that it does not matter what HP staff do or say - the scores, the accolades, the false hopes ... it does not matter. What matters is our hubber friends, how we support each other, how we understand and the fact that we listen and are here for each other. Even deeper than that, what matters is how we feel about ourselves. We KNOW we are good !!! regardless of what # HP gives us. We do not need a # or a condescending, patronizing, ego blown staff member telling us whether we are good or not - WE KNOW WE ARE GOOD !!!

So, with that said, I am just going to put on my "five point harness" (like Randy has done), and wait it out. I may write a hub here and there, I may not - I don't know ... I will just keep feeling good about myself and my writing.

Hugs to both of you, Grace and Deb.


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

HUGS to you Phyllis. You have made me feel so much better. I was literally in tears this afternoon. I was really crying over this. How DARE they trifle with us as writers? HOW DARE THEY?


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

They dare, Grace, because they are not gentle hearts like us. Let's take care of ourselves and let them dig their own pits. Let them dig pits as we build stairs and climb mountains. :)

You see, the thing is, as writers we have a lot of options and choices - as HP they only have one hope.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Tell it like it is, Phyllis! :) We can go elsewhere while HP is still stuck in a rut. As I always say "Time wounds all heels."


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

It certainly does indeed. This too shall pass. Good night ALL!


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Love it, Randy: "Time wounds all heels."

"Say good night, Grace." Who used to say that?

Good night, Grace.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Well it is eatly morning here on this fine Sunday. Phyllis, you are a breath of fresh air that just blew in the door. Thanks for the encouragement. I do hope that you have a great day today! The rest of you follow suite with the great day!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good morning to you too, Debbie! Yes, Phyllis has the right idea with us rolling with the punches. It's the only way to survive these type sites. I hope everyone has a great day! :)


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Well I just posted two new posts to my blogs. The first one is about Sidney and it is an on-going blog that will come out once a week. There are other articles and link on there as well to read to keep our furry family happy and healthy.

Then I always post a new blog just for Sunday on my religious/spiritual blog. I also post links and other things on there as well. I do not have anything on that one that is the type for an on-going weekly posts.

Soon, soon, as soon as winter releasing his grip I will be adding to my gardening blog as well.

Everyone have a wonderful day!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

It sounds like you have plenty to keep you busy, Debbie. Beth and I are returning to Jekyll Island on Wednesday and staying to the end of May hopefully. I suppose we'll stay home for the summer months and return to Jekyll in September. I have my fishin' junk ready along with my beach chair and Fuzzy Navel paraphernalia. Life is tough....


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Oh you have the life Randy! Enjoy!


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Hey, Randy - what a wonderful time you have ahead of you. When you mention Jekyll Island I think about the San Juan Islands in the Pacific Northwest and how much we loved taking the ferry boats out to visit for the day or do some camping.

There is one area we loved camping in that was close to the ocean shore. If the smelt were running, we could easily scoop up buckets of them and fry them up for breakfast with bacon, onions and scrambled eggs. Boy, they were good.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Deb and Phyllis! Yes, we are enjoying our retirement, especially the time we spend at Jekyll. There's so many historical places to visit in the area and it's also not far to Savannah if we get a wild hair in our asps and decide to take a day trip.

It's supposed to be in the 80's on the day we leave so it's beach time for Beth and pier time for yours truly. :P


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

Retirement is indeed good. It is a time of enjoyment if one is well funded. Retirement is wonderful, I get up when I want and do not have to endure the rat race. I have been ensconced in my apartment; have to get OUT more. Enjoy your vacation Randy.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

We're not exactly well off Grace, but we enjoy ourselves in our spare time and we can stay at Jekyll almost as cheaply as at home by the time we count our power, cable, and internet charges. Even while at home we enjoy the solitude of living in the country along with the wildlife we see every day. All and all, life doesn't suck. :)


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I would say living in the country with wildlife is more well off than well off people living in cities with traffic.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I have to agree with you, Phyllis. Farm livin' is the life for me. Land spreadin' out so far and wide.......lol!


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Ahhh! Greeeeen Acres is the place to be ... I loved that show!

You are richer by far than any trump and make my life richer for knowing you.


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

I LOVED that show, especially Arnold the pig. He was so cute. Ah, the good old days when shows were SHOWS.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Meeting folks like you guys is the best thing about HP IMHO! :)


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Well I am back. I could not get into HP since yesterday morning about this time. I sent them a note about a half hours ago and I finally was able to get in. I love the country life too Randy.


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Good lovely morning to all folks in the PO Hood. Have a great day. The sun is full out and the little mountain in back is covered in green grasses and new growth - kind of makes me think of Ireland.

One of my favorite songs is "Come By the Hills" by Damian McGinty. He was only 14 years old when this video was recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cvCA0BFaVM


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Way to give 'em hell in the forums, WA! Once again "quality" seems to be at question re Google. The Big G has HP doing cartwheels as usual. LOL!


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Hubspeak sometimes reminds me of Orwell's Newspeak!


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gmwilliams 18 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

Exactly, WA was very succinct in the forum. Quality has a different definition as far as the Hubpowers go. Many of the HOTD cannot be classified as quality. There are many hubbers who write very intelligent hubs which seems not to be popular. It seems that mass production and/or dumbing down are equal to popularity a/k/a reader engagement nowadays. Another food for thought, all. Now, I am going to get some sleep now. This old vampire is now retiring to her lovely bed..........adieu all.....


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Where is everyone? The whole internet just seem to get really slow the last 2 hours.


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paradigm search 18 months ago from SoCal, USA

I guess Easter Week is kicking in...


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Oh yeah, I guess it is. For those of us, who do not have kids, and they are all on their own doing their own things, it is just another normal day.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Not me, I am preparing. for my 2 months at Jekyll,. Merry Easter Egg hunting all! :P


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

Hmmm. My website traffic is slowing down this last week or two, but my hub traffic is not. I hope this is not a foretell of doom... Meanwhile, muddling along as usual.


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

Friday... Friday... Trying to work up the energy to accomplish something, but don't care if I don't. I see the latest forum frenzy has subsided. Hub traffic still amazingly good for the beginning of Easter weekend. Still looking for a new hub topic. Alas, my latest completed hub is getting zero traffic; going to have to wait the usual year to find out if Google decides to like it.

Side note, can anyone give advice about personal experiences with hearing aids?


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Not me personally, PD, but a Facebook friend from the US has recently been very enthusiastic about the devices and service he obtained from Costco. He is 90% deaf I believe.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Hardly any of my hubs get much traffic at all. Things have slowed down LOTS since about last November for some odd reason.

It isn't a Good Friday for me. I have a cat that needs wound nursing, but he is a totally outdoor cat. Very difficult to treat him and when I have to let him out of the carrier (medium large dog sized) he goes bonkers trying to get outside any window.

Not only that but this morning before it was light out, I was walking out the bedroom door to go to the bathroom and tripped over my 80 pound dog. This week has been very stressful. I need a break!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

My Mom--who's in her 90s--got hearing aids in both ears only a week ago, Para. She's still getting them adjusted but she seems to like them. They were over $3000 so I hope they are worth it to her enough for her wear them.

Just got settled into our site here on Jekyll and am enjoying the beautiful weather and scenery. I'll check in from time to time when I'm not too busy. (That's a joke, son!) Now for a Fuzzy Navel...... :P


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

Well, sports fans. I made a hearing aid appointment. Presumably insurance is supposed to pay for it. Based on my previous experience with all things corrupt American medical, the whole experience is probably going to be the usual total nightmare; I am dreading it. If they try getting me to sign the usual long, obtuse contract; I will bail.

Randy and WA, my hearing is pretty bad as well. Frankly, I'm worried all our so-called 3rd millennium technology is nothing but a scam. Time and time again, I've heard stories about people spending a fortune on hearing aids and then not using them because they simply can't do the job in an acceptable manner.

Lady G, feed the cat to the dog; both problems solved.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

LOL!!! Thaks for the laugh, I sure needed it!!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

My hearing isn't the best either, Para. One of my ears is damaged because of the years of standing in front of an amplifier while playing loud rock and roll. The other heear is even more damaged because that one is the ear Beth talks into.......:o


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Randy you remind me of Ian Fleming in Jamaica. Damn good read just published about that too. hahha...know what you mean about 'the other ear!' Hey, was that a Lynyrd Skynyrd-ish kind of rock n roll or what? y'all have fun you lucky D:)


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'd love to be back in Jamaica now, Alastar! I'll just have to settle for a couple of months here on Jekyll I suppose. :P


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Alastar Packer 18 months ago from North Carolina

Yea, somehow your fuzzy naval on Jekyll reminded me of Fleming in Jamaica. Were you really in a rockn roll band? What instrument cha play?


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I played R&R starting at age 15 on drums and eventually went to guitar and bass. I took piano lessons for 6 years and also learned the 5 string banjo before the guitar. It was a very fun and somewhat lucrative time in my early years. I've tried many exciting--and sometimes dangerous-- jobs, as you can tell by this hub. Like my Mom says," Better to wear out than rust out!" I always obey my Momma. :)


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

So there you all are! Wondered where you'd all gone? I watched both TV debates and also thought the 'hell yeah' from Miliband was a bit adolescent, but thought he came across fairly well in other ways. Did you watch Thursday's offerings, POs from the UK?

Was good to see Natalie Bennett and Leanne Wood get some airtime, although I don't agree that Nicola Sturgen really shone. Still, each to their own. I think the GE is cut and dried already: Labour+SNP+Greens and more powers etc. to Wales and Scotland, but we'll see.


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

I watched Thursday's broadcast in Treorci Rugby Club with other Plaid members. We ate, drank, cheered and tweeted all through the evening. It was a good night actually :)

I'm on the left next to Shelley Rees-Owen, our Rhondda candidate for Westminster https://twitter.com/Julieporth/status/583710941461...


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Hi Randy, please release my last message. The link is only dodgy insofar as I am fat and the T shirts we were asked to wear are VERY unflattering!!!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sorry to be so truant in releasing your post, WA. Been out enjoying the isle most of the day. But here it is.....


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Oops WA, I spoke too soon. Your comment wasn't caught in my spam filter, so I have no idea where it ended up. Sorry!


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

It's OK, Randy, it rescued itself, the one with the link to us watching the leaders' debate.


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

You look like you're having a really good time, WA! I think the next GE is going to be a game changer in many ways, especially for Wales and Plaid. The power of social media + v. positive exposure for Leanne Wood I expect will result in seat gain.

The message from all of the women was so refreshing too. No more immigrant bashing or austerity; grow and spend instead of slash and burn; Good old fashioned Keynesian economics. All hale the women!!


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aa lite 18 months ago from London

I did watch the Thursday debate of course. I thought all the women did really well, in their own ways. I know a lot of the commentators didn't rate Natalie Wood very much, but I thought she was very 'human', which probably isn't expected of politicians.

I did think Sturgeon did extremely well. She was very confident, forceful, and yet sounded real.

Newspaper coverage was the funniest thing. The rightwing press said that milliband really messed it up, none of the polls agree with that. Suspicion is headlines were written before the debate.

Today's shocker: Milliband had notes to prep for the debate. How will we ever trust him again the lying ........

Labour minority propped up by left-wing parties would be an excellent outcome. But a conservative -ukip alliance would be awful. However, there r some predictions that Farage will not get his constituency


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

I think Natalie Bennett came across very well. I've watched her on QT in the past, and although I find favour with the policies, she always seemed a bit shouty and worked up. She was much calmer and measured this time, I thought. I think Sturgeon did well but not as 'out there' as people seem to think. Having said that I'm a bit cynical, I do question the motivation of SNP leaders- it's that Murdoch/Salmond thing. But hey, she's not him and time will tell.

I was reading something last night from the Guardian I think, but can't find it today. Basically it read that even if the Tories were to win the most number of seats, they'd struggle to form any kind of coalition or even supply and confidence deal. The Lib Dems alone will not secure a majority for Cameron (due to their forthcoming annihilation) It would have to be Tories+Lib Dems+Ukip+DUP. I'll try to find the link for you, aa. I don't think UKIP's vote share will convert to seats, and the seats they have have been pinched from the Tories.

On the other hand, Labour could form a minority govt. with a smaller share and support from the SNP. However, Labour+SNP+Greens+Plaid would give a very comfortable majority. I'm hoping and praying that deal has already been done:) Those smaller parties are refusing coalition but would offer supply and confidence. Would be great to see some decent, left wing women with some power for once.

In terms of the Sun's Miliband notes, it's hilarious and exactly what they did to Clegg in 2010 (seriously, they pinched Clegg's debate notes too) And in terms of how interested the masses are about this, I direct you to this tweet. https://twitter.com/DavidWooding/status/5846680181... Take note of the amorphous, staggering number of tweets and retweets!!!


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Hmm, given the way Westminster-led Labour treats Wales and the way Welsh Labour plays dirty in local politics not to mention their betrayal of Wales in the Welsh Assembly, I think they would have to give LOT of concessions to get Plaid support!


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sounds as if you ladies need a Hillary across the water! :P


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

Westminster politics is a dirty, dirty business, WA- and Labour lost my vote a long time ago. But, they can also be used to advantage- when in Rome!

Not so sure about Hilary, Randy. We have some pretty impressive leftie women on this side of the pond.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes, but you don't have a Bill to keep things lively like Hillary does. :P


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

True enough, but we're trying to get rid of sleezy 'news' Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Bill haled as a good president; reducing inequality and creating an all round better society? From my point of view, so what, he had an affair- might have been a crap husband...but.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I ljked Bill as a president, Hollie! It's killing the right that Hillary can't be beat and Bill will be "First Gentleman" and back in the White House.


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HollieT 18 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

If she kills the right then the woman has my respect. Quite like the sound of first gentleman in the White House. Oh how time's a changin' :D


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Phyllis Doyle 18 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I think Bill was a good president. Sure he had an extramarital affair while in office, but so did Garfield, Harding, Franklin Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson - probably several others. "First Gentleman" - that would be interesting.


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Lady Guinevere 18 months ago from West Virginia

Back to the Gardens! Here is the first day of my 2015 Gardening Journal:

http://mypersonalgardening.blogspot.com/2015/04/my...


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

As Hillary said, "Bill is a hard dog to keep on the porch."


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aa lite 18 months ago from London

OMG just heard Gideon give a 10 minute speech on 'economic chaos and plan that is working'. He was trying so hard to get all the soundbites in, it was completely incoherent.

Do you guys say that somebody is 'resident in', or that they are 'resident of', I can't decide and google is being mysterious on the subject.

My tooth blew up into an abscess. I could only get an appointment on Friday and the abscess goes back to at least Saturday. I asked the woman if I couldn't just pop in for 5 minutes, all I need to start with is an antibiotic prescription, sadly I know how these things work, but she was unmoved.

I think it's bloody irresponsible to leave me with a suppurating (that might not be a word) tooth. What if I get blood poisoning or something?


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

If there is ever a next time, aa, look online. I found at least one UK-based site offering emergency consultations online for dental emergencies and they will send the antibiotic out with next-day delivery.

As for residing, I would say someone is a resident of [place] or resides/lives in [place].

I notice that the viral hub with all the hoo-ha is about losing 10 lbs weight in 3 days, which is physiologically impossible. Losing 10 lbs means taking in approximately 10,000 calories less than needed over the period in question. Since most people need somewhere in the range of 2000-2500 calories per day, even a total fast wouldn't get you there. Instead of unpublishing such evidently untrue information and giving the editor a wrist-slap for not doing proper fact checking, HP is patting the writer, the editor and itself on the back. Meanwhile they unpublished one of my hubs about how to deal with lapses/temptation on a diet because of "lack of engagement". Makes me truly sick!


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Sigh, another comment eaten! Will let Randy release it instead of trying again. Meanwhile, I'm off to the Bookcrossing convention in Oxford tomorrow till Monday so might not be around much.


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Ah, comment now released before Randy got to it. Very odd, this keeps happening all the time.


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paradigmsearch 18 months ago from USA

Frankly, I'd like to know why my Commenter Accolade has permanently disappeared for months now. I comment here all the time.


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aa lite 18 months ago from London

Actually I think it is 3500 Calories per pound of fat, no? So 35000 for 10 pounds. Of course you can lose lots of weight through dehydration, and if you drastically cut down carbohydrates you lose a lot of water initially, cause I believe glycogen keeps water in your system or something like that. So it is possible to drop a lot of weight in the first week of a very strict diet, unfortunately it is not very useful to lose water weight.

Didn't know there was a viral hub recently. Fact is that goodness is no guarantee of success on the web, in fact it probably is easier to be successful with crappy material provided you pick just the right kind of crappy material. Of course I don't think HP should support that kind of stuff even if it does pay, but then it is best not to expect anything good from them.

Weird about them sending antibiotics over the net, I would have imagined that would not be allowed because of the Rise of the Superbugs.

I'm not in much pain, but my whole mouth feels rough by now, I hope the infection hasn't spread.


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Randy Godwin 18 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I did release your comment, WA. And now AA's comment was caught in the filter. You guys may be more venomous than I suspected! :P


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WriteAngled 18 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

You're right aa, I was thinking 3 lbs a day = about 10,000, and then I guess it seemed so much I just switched to the whole period subconsciously!!!

Randy, possibly long comments get caught?


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Possibly my use of the cr%* word. It is really not very offensive, but then this hub is such a rarified environment! I must take more care to watch my language in the future.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

aa, my daughter had an abscess over Christmas, she couldn't even eat her dinner on Xmas day. Next day (although I didn't hold out much hope) I rang the emergency dental line and they gave her an appt for that day- it was in Urmston, so a bit of drive but they also gave her a prescription too. Perhaps if you ring your dentist out of hours and use the number they provide on the answerphone (assuming that it's a NHS practice) you'll be seen faster elsewhere.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Thanks Hollie,

Just got back from the dentist, this was the appointment I made a week ago. Just took the first antibiotic.

But.....weird dentist (the one I used to see years ago who I really liked has gone completely private). I told her I'd rather have the tooth out (it's right at the back). She said she couldn't do it, suggested I try another dentist at the practice, but also that I might just want to go to a hospital to do it (which would be free!). But apparently there are long waiting times. Probably would get infected again.

Well I have an appointment in 2 weeks with a strong male dentist we'll see what he says. It would probably be safest to do it an a hospital, I think they are worried the tooth will crumble or something.

But for now I have my antibiotics! Although they always give me the ones that react violently with alcohol. I feel quite bad telling my faithful vodka bottle, which saw me through the hard times, that I don't need it anymore!


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

I don't think they can take it out whilst it's infected. They told my daughter to wait a couple of weeks and then see her own dentist and have it removed, because it was risky taking out with all the swelling. Dental hospitals (although I've not been to one for years, so probably different now) used to give quick appts for emergencies I'm sure)

Shame about the vodka, but when we went to Boots for Hollie's prescription we were told that she could have a drink with them- It was Christmas!


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Glad your feeling better, aa. Hope the new tooth guy fixes you right up. :)

Another beautiful day on the isle. Fishing and sunburn all around.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Well I think I'm still waiting for the antibiotic to kick in. I know the infection has to be treated before the tooth is pulled out, capped, but this new dentist didn't really seem to be into making any plans for that. She just gave me the antibiotics and seemed to wash her hands off it. Anyway we'll see, what the other guy thinks.

I know I am biased against the Tories, but I really get the impression that the wheels are coming off their campaign. First there was the 'Miliband stabbed his brother in the back' we should lock him in the tower, because he is bound to betray his country. Today we've got this promise of 8 bill for the NHS with absolutely no indication of where the money is coming from. The BBC guy was asking Jeremy C 'do you guys make this up as you go along'.

How much are they paying this Lynton guys they imported from the States again?

I'm not saying that labour are particularly clear about their economic plans (where are the cuts gonna be etc.) but they seem to be rather less brazen about the stuff.


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

Hark! My flash fiction website finally hit a 1000 views, http://www.flashfictiononlinestories.com/


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

I think you're right, aa. Notwithstanding that I'm biased against the Tories too! And that bloody Ed Miliband, cheeky sod, actually had the audacity to have relationships with other women before the relationship with his wife. The Cad!

Didn't Lynton Crosby loose the last election he was involved in? Classic David Cameron, couldn't back a winner if his life depended on it. And besides, why don't they just understand that the electorate are turned off by negative campaigning, just doesn't help their cause at all. I can't wait to see Cameron get kicked out of Number 10- It'll make my day.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Egad I am bored! The fish ain't a-bitin' and the sun ain't a-shinin'. Somebody please feel sorry for this pore ole dirt farmer. :P

Any POs in the hood?


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

You po' sweet man! My heart is breakin' for you.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Meanwhile, in Nevada, Pyramid Lake officials are gearing up for the annual fishing derby and the Cutthroat trout are in abundance. And the sun is a'shinin'. Cold, but lotta sun and trout.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Phyllis! I wondered if anyone else was awake around here. The trout fishing sounds great, but not the temperature. In the 80's here on the isle with some sun interspersed with light showers. It isn't perfect, but darn near it! :)


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Cool video, Phyllis. But I'm not used to fishing with anything on but shorts and flip flops, so trout fishing may not work for me. :P


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Sounds wonderful, Randy. It is way too cold here for me. What kind of bait do you use?


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Live and artificial baits, Phyllis. I helped a guy land a 29 pound red drum on the pier not long ago.It's fun to catch the bait as well as the fish they feed on. Kinda like the human species....


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I understand that. Getting all bundled up like those guys kind of takes the fun out of fishing. My brother and I like to fish in Santa Cruz, Calif at the ocean - usually off the pier. It is a lot of fun when the porpois come in to show off for us. With them and the seals and the seagulls, we never really catch any fish worth saving. We get a lot of baby octopus (octopi?).


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

OMGosh ! that's a big un! Red drum - is that like a bass?


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I've caught octopi on the Gulf and they are funny creatures. Really smart according to the ocean folk who study this kind of thing. Yes, I see lots of porpoise here off Jekyll's beaches and lots of other wildlife along the roadsides. The speed limit is a maximum of 35 MPH on the island which is a good thing with all the deer feeding late in the evening.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I just looked red drum up on bing images - they can get pretty big. I bet they are good when blackened in a cast iron skillet.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

They are called red drum, or reds, or spot tails among many other monikers. you may have heard of a Cajun dish called "Blackened Red Fish" which uses red drum as the main ingredient.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Have to take meds and get my aching body to bed. Have a good night, Randy. Tomorrow is a new day - enjoy it.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

G nite, Phyllis. Bundle up warm. Meantime, we're running the AC.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Ah! yes, I have heard of the "Blackened Red Fish". We don't get them out here. But, I have used the seasoning and method for red snapper and it is so good. I have to do it outside on a hot hot bbq.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

I got the heat on and bronchitis. Running the AC - good grief I do feel sorry for you in your paradise. G'night.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'm hitting the sack too, Phyllis! I got more fishing to do tomorrow. :) Somebody's gotta do it....


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

Hi all! Just peeking and seeing all the weather you all are having. No AC or Heat here. Boy Phyliss that red fish does sound good. I hope that you feel better soon.

Randy, must be nice to go fishing all day. Sitting out three waiting for a bite and relxing in the sunshine. Don't get too burned. Come back and tell us some stories.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good morning, Debbie! Yes, it's great to be able to fish when I want and the weather is nice down here. A bit dreary today but the sun is in and out but still very pleasant. :)


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Evenin' , Randy. Catch any good ones today? Do you sometimes get bottom feeders, like catfish? My son and I used to go to a Cajun restaurant in California and he often ordered the catfish. I never tried it, but he said it is so good. I usually went for the spicy seafood stew - OMGosh ! Or a good Gumbo with shrimp and sausage (which I used to make myself.)

I have been floating in the Universe today searching for super-giant stars, like Bellatrix, the third brightest star in the Orion constellation. Size comparison to the sun is astronomical, making the sun look like a ping pong ball next to a big beach ball. I have looked at so many pics of stars and read so much that my head feels too light and am spacing out. LOL

Thought I had better come back to the hood and ground myself. Hope your evening is wonderful, as I am sure it is.

Interesting things, stars are.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Phyllis, yes I've caught a few fish today but haven't really worked hard at it. The really small catfish--about five or six inches long--are very good, but those are fresh water fish. Here the flounder and spotted seatrout are very delicious, and east coast shrimp are in abundance here also.

I have a few telescopes and once spent a good deal of time looking at the night sky and musing about it all.It always made me feel so very insignificant, but then, I suppose I am.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

A bit dreary on the isle today, but it's better than workin'! :P


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Definitely better than working. I just translated straigt from 6:30 to 11 am. Was going to do it last night bur for some reason felt incredibly tired.

Now having a small break before I write more articles for purveyor, which as usual I am late with.

Not that it means I'm getting a lot of work. I spent the beginning of the month doing v. little.

Poor Fallon, he's obviously been elected Tory 'nasty boy'. Was just saying how Sturgeon will wrap milliband around her 'little finger'. I don't know, doesn't that sound sexist to you? Praps she'll chase him with her handbag if he steps out of line.

The only thing that makes this better is that it shows the bankruptcy of Tory party when it comes to policy. The bad thing is if they win it will be insufferable, I mean it would have been insufferable anyway....but I really wish they will lose just for being so disgusting in their campaign!


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SmartAndFun 17 months ago from Texas

Great story, Randy, especially since it is true. You've led quite an interesting life, and that's an understatement!

Things have been so boring around here and I've had nothing interesting to add, until today -- my AdSense earnings are up 6,200% over the same day last week! Too bad it's not real; I'm sure it's a glitch of some sort. They delete even the smallest amounts they deem suspicious, so I'm sure this tidy sum will be yanked away in a flash.

Hope you're having a great time on vacation!


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

Well today is my birthday.

The hell with earning anyting on-line! I give up on that. I am just going to share stuff and write when I want to, not because I feel that I have to push for one more gd cent.

I have had a bout of my Ulcerative Colitis reared it's ugly head the last couple of days and I am not even halfway over it yet. Got the back ache and all the. We went to a BBgame on Saturday evening. I was doing OK until we came out of the stadium to walk to the car! 1 could barely walk! I pushed it too soon. So today I am eating yummy jellow, crackers and tea...all day fo the next two days. At least I am not in the hospital!

How't that for a Birthday!?


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SmartAndFun 17 months ago from Texas

Happy Birthday LG! It's a bummer to be feeling bad on your birthday, but hopefully you can celebrate with a slice of cake in a day or two! I hope you get to feeling better.


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

Yep in a day or two I should be feeling much better! I really did it to myslef though. You know the play you pau thing! I ate some delicious Taco Checken reciper that I mae the other night and it was soooo good that I over indulged just a tad bit too much. Spicey foods will set my UC off.

Thanks for the birthday wishes.


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gmwilliams 17 months ago from the Greatest City In The World-New York City, New York

Hope you feel better, Debra. Rest and watch a good documentary or better yet a good horror movie. Happy belated birthday and may you have many more, God bless.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey S&F! Yes, there's definitely some sort of glitch going on at Adsense cause I've earned way too much money yesterday and today. Glad you enjoyed learning something about my past life, and indeed, I've had rather exciting life. :)

Happy B-Day Deb!


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

Don't see how can they can win, aa. Take a look at this http://may2015.com/featured/election-2015-polls-su...

Don't think it's about a majority/minority govt. but who can stubble a coalition together. The only way C can do it is with Lib Dem/UKIP support- pro and anti Europe parties, emm. Can you see the Lib Dems opting for a referendum on Europe and working with UKIP? Of course, if Clegg were to hold his seat then anything's possible, but that's highly unlikely. I reckon Clegg's fu**£" on May 8th.

Plaid and the Greens I trust more, and Nicola Sturgeon comes across well- but there's still that Salmond/Murdoch thing in the back of my mind. Murdoch's been at the back of the winners for more than 3 decades now, his support for Salmond has been unrelenting and well reported. Which would also explain Miliband's resistance to SNP (other than the fact that they want to become independent) Miliband and Murdoch's history is less than pleasant.

I don't think UKIP can garner enough seats (specially without Lib Dem support) to help Cameron.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

And Happy Birthday, Lady G. I do forget my manners when I get carried away and on one. I hope you're feeling better soon :)


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

HollieT, I do the same and then the next day I say to myself...there was something that you were supposed to do yesterday.

Thanks Everyone for the Birthday and get well wishes. We will be having dinner out on Wednesday....NO spices!!


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

That article sounds very optimistic Hollie. But as they say the Tories have clung to power against the odds before. But it is enjoyable to see how panicked they are getting. They've even stopped talking about 'long term economic plan' and are just focusing on the dangers of the Scottish Siren holding the traitor Milipede ransom. Quite extraordinary!

I'm not sure about lib dems not joining the coalition with UKIP, as somebody tweeted, they would probably join a coalition with ISIS, and then explain that they are moderating the beheadings.

Really looking forward to Clegg potentially losing his seat, that would be delicious! It might all still go very wrong, but there is definitely hope.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

I do think it's optimistic,aa, but kind of relevant. I know what you mean about the Lib Dems too, but increasingly (and I'm possibly wrong; shock horror) I think if Clegg loses his seat the yellow bellies will opt out of power and re-group. It's all a bit New Labourish- they need to re-brand and go back to their roots because they're about to get annihilated. At least New Labour enjoyed legitimate governance (not that I was a fan)

Yep, the Tories are in desperado mode, no doubt about that. But again, they're clearly worried about the numbers and cobbling a coalition together. Speaks volumes.

The Sun's leaders have been hysterical the past few weeks. Today's was 'Slave Labour' obviously I haven't read the column because I have some principles and there are certain depths to which I wouldn't stoop, so I can only muse about what they contained. And the 'Downton Abbey' two kitchens was hilarious- portraying Milipede as a toff and Cameron as the party of workers. Honestly! Non-doms of the world unite.

And they have clung to power before, however, that was when the right wing press was relevant. It just isn't now. I'd love to see those three women enjoy some power- and I think it's going to happen :)


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

A gorgeous day here on Jekyll, but the fish weren't biting. However, the shrimp is delicious and the Fuzzy Navels were flowing as usual. Hay to all the POs. :)


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Ahh I am so jealous. No navels for me. I am recovering from an aborted tooth pulling attempt. Despite getting 3 doses of antibiotic it still hurt, and I think me screaming was scaring the other people.

Apparently the last dose of antibiotic didn't quite get rid of the infection.....so I'm now on a different one, plus apparently I should rinse with salt. I've always wondered why dentists insisted on curing the infection before doing anything.....now I know.

I found this missive from CCHQ quite mystifying. I'm glad to say that a lot of ppl are berating their pathetic effort. Will put link in next msg cause I'm worried it will get swallowed. Look for hashtag meandmylectern


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

that was 3 doses of anaesthetic,

and here is the link: https://twitter.com/CCHQPress/status/5912669802436...


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

aa lite. Maybe this will cheer you up. I noticed my main website keeps sporadically sending traffic to your fractal hub. I hope that hub is serving you well. :)

Hollie. Your camera is playing a major part in my next hub endeavor. Consider yourself hugged (again).

Randy. You poor thing. Life is hard. :D


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paradigmsearch 17 months ago from USA

A rainy Friday. Trying to work up the energy to do something productive, but Netflix beckons...


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Beautiful but windy here, Para. AA, I hope you're feeling better now. A toothache is hard to deal with at any time. :)


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

A good sunny but windy Friday here. I am up and around and got lots of energy. Updating my blogs and already asked a few questions on HP. It is sooooo good to be pain-free. I do hope that AA is also pain-free and the rest of you all too.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Glad you are feeling better, Deb! :)


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

aa, abscesses are horrible and painful; you have my condolences. Have you tried using Corsodyl mouthwash? Might help, my daughter used it and so did I when I had an abscess. Can't say for sure whether it was that or the salt water rinses that helped but it was certainly more pleasant than the latter. My son also swears by it because his gums sometimes bleed. However, it does stain your teeth if you use it a lot, so bear that in mind.

Tories and RW press are bloody desperate, it's laughable.

Randy, you and your Fuzzy Navels- I really must try one. If I fly out to southern GA in the future, will you be my barman? :)

PDS, I'm looking forward to seeing your pics- and thanks for the hug.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Thanks guys. Tooth is not actually very painful, when it is not being pulled out. There is ibuprofen. Don't have corsodyl, Hollie, but dentist told me to do a lot of salt rinsing. I'm also on antibiotics agains, so hopefully it will get resolved. The thing that gets me is that it seems to me they leave big gaps between visits. Like I'm on 5 days of antibiotic but then she said I should come after 10 days. Why? Surely if the antibiotics are gonna kill the infection, they will do it after 5 days? Isn't it better to try and take it out then rather than wait another 5 days when another infection can get in?

I can't figure out whether it is medically justified or just the crisis in NHS dentistry that causes the delay.

I believe my next visit is on election day. At least I will be distracted. Honestly I'm getting really tired of the campaign. I just want to know the answer. Now!


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

Good to see you back on the thread, Anders. Yes, no RS ads and most of the discussion lately seems to be about UK politics and medico- ailments and treatments. Randy reports in now and then from paradise. Love the ladies and dig the gents- all the PO whatever they're into at any given time. Glad you returned from that place and seem happy Anders. Whatcha got planned for fun comin' up?!


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

I have been really ill but the last two days without pain I have been working on my blogs, one in which I just published about Pepsi's move in switching poison for poisn in ther det soft drinks. There is another company that did this way before Pepsi did and here is my blog that tells who it is:

http://thefeastbeforeyou.blogspot.com/2015/04/beve...

People on diets do have a choice, if they just know about it.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Good day Alastar and Debbie! Sorta rainy here today but otherwise it's another fine afternoon. :)


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

It is cool here for the end of April. We are supposed to be getting rain tonight. We got some gardening to do to. I got me a big bag of Perlite and am going to be adding it to my raised gardens and pots.


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

Thanks for list, Lady G. It's something with those diet drinks. It's also amazing to try and find any gum, breath mints etc that doesn't have aspartame in it now despite all the other sugar replacements in them too. And some even have real sugar included to boot! The only ones can find that are free of aspar are the British made Altoids.

On another note, Lady G, do Gardenias bloom late in the year up where you are? Had a question on my website about what white flower a Gen. was buried with on his lapel in honor of his soon to be born child. He passed in Oct. I told him didn't know for sure but intuition told me it was probably a gardenia since they were and are popular from his home area. Thanks Debbie.


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

Hi Randy and Beth! Rainy up here as well. Please send some fresh fish to me asap- no tarter or cocktail sauce required with your delicious catches!


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'll mail you a flounder, Alastar! :P


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

We do have them but mostly the Rhododendrans here. I have seen them bloom in the summer months. I will have to get back to your site. Can you give me the link, please. There are other flowers that are whtie that are used for those purposes too.


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

It could be a Magnolia too.


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

Oh boy and yummy, flounder! The only thing that could make it better would be if the cook could prepare it in person! Keep enjoyin' yourselves my friend. :) Hey, what fish are you catching the most of right now this time of year?


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

Very kind of you to do that, Debbie. The author's name is Patrick and info he'll certainly appreciate. The Gen. had the white flower in his label in Oct in the upper Shenandoah Valley, which is of course the southern part of the Valley. His remains were shipped back to his home in NC and he was buried with it on. Tragically, his wife and baby died in childbirth and were buried beside him. Fastest way to article is Googling - Stephen Ramseur Weebly. It'll be the one at the top of the page. Just scroll down to end of comments and you'll see it. Thanks again, so much Debbie:)


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Sea trout, flounde,r and red and black drum are the main fish taken lately, Alastar. helped a guyon the pier land an 8 foot bull shark a couple of days ago. That was sort of exciting. :)


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Alastar Packer 17 months ago from North Carolina

That's a scrumptious list of fish for camping repasts. If Beth is the chef then a most fortunate fresh seafood eater you are Randy. Course no doubt you can scale, gut and prepare them yourself. Ah, like to be there for one hour having good times with y'all and a plate n fuzzy naval. Got a business n pleasure trip coming up soon so that'll have to do- but one can still dream. Wow, how exciting for sure with that bull shark! A species and size that is potentially man dangerous.- watch for fins in the swimming now loll!


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

My gosh, Randy - I sure wish I was there to enjoy some of that fish you are catching. I cooked some blackened red fish the other day and it was so good. I used Paul Prudhommes Cajun Seasoning. Of course I had to use red snapper, but still it was awesome.

An 8 foot bull shark, Holy Cow ! Are those good eats?


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TheBlueCrystal 17 months ago from USA

This is another one of my accounts. It's been inactive for 6 weeks, so I thought I'd make a post here to fix that. You won't have to be a rocket surgeon to figure out who I am. :D


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WriteAngled 17 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

I see someone has stumbled on one of the grossly misleading "job advertisements" placed by HP

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130220

It amuses me to see that after all the pontificating that HP "is not a blog site", they are now referring to blogs and bloggers.


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SmartAndFun 17 months ago from Texas

I wonder how we can be certain those are not referral links? If they are ads that have been placed by HP, that is quite deceptive. They should be ashamed of themselves. What a bait and switch!


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

My old laptop finally bit the dust so 'm using Beth's piece of junk now. ( I bought it for her) I can hardly abide using it because its keyboard is so much more awkward than mine. AAAAAAARG!!

Meantime......Yo to all POs. :)


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy, the Best Buy website has served me well. Twice as a matter of fact.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Yes Para, I'll have to ask Beth to give me a loan though. And like most women, she expects loan shark interest. :P


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

Both of the computers I had bought cost me less than $300 and served me just fine. After all, all I really use them for is an internet terminal.

Meanwhile, I never thought in a million years that HP would be the author of those ads. Was totally dumbfounded when they fessed up.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I'm surprised at nothing HP does anymore. Sorry to say....... ;(


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

As long as the monthly bribes continue to roll in, I'm fine with it. :D


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Since HP hired the new HubPro editors I suppose they've already spent too much money to keep the stats up to date as they once did. Someone said they'd contracted out the stats program to another entity. If so, they're wasting their money on bullshit.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Wow! Thousands of dollars a month. It probably isn't a complete lie, I imagine there might be a couple of hubbers who make that much money, but talk about misleading!

This is the first month for a v. long time when I got less than $100 from HP. It is my own fault though, my electronics hubs are woeful out of date. It is quite reasonable of google to not be showing them.

Still after that getting squidoo stuff and making google hate us disaster, I can't really be bothered to do much here.


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paradigmsearch 17 months ago from USA

Randy. I do wonder what the behind the scenes is on that. HP did say it was outsourced. If they gave it to me, it would be my one and only job and I would do a banner job for them. Oh, well...


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paradigmsearch 17 months ago from USA

Meanwhile, HP just gave my Paypal account its regards. All is well. I feel a nap coming on...


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I do believe there are still Hubbers making over two thousand dollars a month, aa. During my peak seasons I earn over a quarter that amount with only a few hubs which haven't been updated in quite a while. I imagine some veterans with many hubs in on the ground floor of HP do quite well.

@ Para--Yes, HP's priorities tend towards squeezing more money out of the site rather than keeping their records straight it seems. One of the reasons I don't use their in-house HPad and Amazon programs. :(


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Well my views halved overnight. From the forum I think it looks like that happened to other people. Stats error or another panda slap?


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Mine tanked also, aa. HOPE IT'S A GLITCH!!!


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SmartAndFun 17 months ago from Texas

Ugh, mine have been cut in half, too, if not more. I was having a great month so far up until now! Boo.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Once again, that's why I don't trust HP's in-house ad click and sales programs.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Once again, that's why I don't trust HP's in-house ad click and sales programs.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Once again, that's why I don't trust HP's in-house ad click and sales programs.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Once again, that's why I don't trust HP's in-house ad click and sales programs.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

I think it's a glitch my analytics are not too bad. Really need to redo my electronics hubs. I updated one and it had a big effect on traffic. The problem is updating really means choosing new products, so it is not quick or easy to do.

Talking of computers Randy, I thought you were getting a new one, with the help of your son a few months ago. I'm assuming you didn't in the end given that you are now laptop less?


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Once again, that's why I don't trust HP's in-house ad click and sales programs.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

I think it's a glitch my analytics are not too bad. Really need to redo my electronics hubs. I updated one and it had a big effect on traffic. The problem is updating really means choosing new products, so it is not quick or easy to do.

Talking of computers Randy, I thought you were getting a new one, with the help of your son a few months ago. I'm assuming you didn't in the end given that you are now laptop less?


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

My son repaired my old laptop, aa. Therefore I procrastinated as usual trying ro save a few bucks. I'm using Beth's computer in the meantime...


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

My son repaired my old laptop, aa. Therefore I procrastinated as usual trying ro save a few bucks. I'm using Beth's computer in the meantime...


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Peggy W 17 months ago from Houston, Texas

That was quite a story! Perhaps Leon really did go into a witness protection program. As to the politics on HP, I do not pay attention. I am going to learn how to develop my own website and see where that goes. Should probably have done that years ago! I have learned much from writing on HP and appreciate that learning curve...plus meeting some great people on this site.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks for stopping by, Peggy. There's no doubt Leon went into the WPP. Good luck with your own site! :)


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Greetings, Randy. Hope your day is awesome.

http://mtdremer.hubpages.com/question/255799/which...


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Phyllis! Just got back to the Isle a few minutes ago and logged on. I'm very honored by your answer on the link you left. Although Beth will assure you there's not a bashful bone in my body, your words almost made me embarrassed to be the receptor of your very kind praise. Coming from a fine writer like yourself makes them even more special.

Thanks again. :)


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

You are most welcome, Randy. It is all truth. Best wishes to you and Beth.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

PS: thank you very much for the "fine writer" compliment, Randy.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

That's one very important aspect of HP, Phyllis. We have the pleasure of meeting other like minded people. Some grow to be friends in the process. Thanks for being one of mine.One cannot have too many....... :)


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

So true, Randy.


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Phyllis Doyle 17 months ago from High desert of Nevada.

Randy, if you notice the change on your "My Account" page, it is because of more "extensive research" . See http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130287

I am not too bothered by the change, just wish they had notified us to prevent some stress.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I noticed that, Phyllis. I never get too upset when HP changes anything. I've ceased to be amused with their experimentation. Most of it sucks anyway. :P


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Egad! I never dreamt HP's forums would suck as bad as they do now. Congratulations Paul, you took the life right outta this formerly exciting venue. It was once a place for new ideas for hub subjects and titles. Now it's mainly for complaints and newbies. More's the pity. :(


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Congratulation Izzy, if you ever look here again, on the HOTD!

God sometimes I hate this country. Days away from the most important election in (insert v. long period of time here). Libya, Iraq etc. are falling to pieces, People are without any supplies in Nepal......we are subjected to hours of fluff about some Kate going into labour.

Mind you, funniest thing I saw on twitter in a while was on the worst crisis since abdication hash tag - Royal Baby called Nicola.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

Sometimes I hate this country too, you're in good company aa. The Mirror splashed on its front page a picture of a Nepalese woman whose child had just been rescued from the rubble in the earthquake. The Sun's PR man decided that the woman looked like Ed Miliband, and made a joke of it all. How low can you sink?

Honestly couldn't give a flying f*ck about those parasites and their newly arrived benefit scrounger. Great quote here https://twitter.com/pgo1980/status/594529190831095...

Still, have discovered an independent (truly) quality news site which is crowd funded and contains some interesting reads, if you're interested? You don't have to contribute financially if the you can't, the read is free. I really like this site. It includes a good interview with Chomsky! Independent journos, not beholden to the usual BS. http://www.byline.com/column/3/article/7


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

I read the byline thing Hollie, who knows if it will work. I think Chomsky is right, the internet overall doesn't solve the media misinformation problem, there is simply so much of it, and there is no way to tell where anything is coming from.

I ofc approve of Chomsky hugely, if only for his view on the Middle East. On the other hand, there's been some ppl claiming stuff about his stance on Cambodia. It was even mentioned in the how mumbo jumbo took over the world book (as in Chomsky was pushing mumbo jumbo). This is a topic I know nothing about, keep meaning to look it up and form an opinion but can never get around to it.

Ofc 15 years ago I was arguing with this Israeli socialist guy online (he ran this cool website called Bibiwatch) and when I mentioned Chomsky he said that he supported Holocaust denial which is such utter bollocks.

Nice tweet about the newest HRH parasite. But I really liked the Will Black thing "some very rich people had sex, some time later the woman gave birth to a girl......."

Did you see this? It made me laugh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMpl7eDEeYg (millifandom movie).


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy and anyone else on straight AdSense, you're gonna want to read this... http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130398


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Thanks Para, I'll check it out. :)


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

OMG the Independent has come out supporting the con-dems!

Twitter is saying this is result of direct dictat from owner (Lebedev)

The vast majority of ppl commenting on the editorial are saying they r going to stop reading it.

I used to really value the indy. But their online stuff is so covered with massive click bait ads, I hadn't actually been there for a while.


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WriteAngled 17 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Back from the windiest camping trip I've ever experienced, on a cliff top near St Davids. When I took the tent down, I found one of the poles had split! It was good fun though, with a good crowd and far too much sweetie-flavoured vodka consumed.


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

Another hub is going to be put on my blogs if they do not approve it for the featured program. They said that it was too spammy. The amazon capsules have all been removed. What is the use of having the ability to use the amazon capsies if we cannot use them on our hus? HP is way too greedy! These capsule did in fact have lots to do with the hub itself and now it looks really bare. We shall see what the gods say today!


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Lady Guinevere 17 months ago from West Virginia

Well anoher one bits the dust. Their excuse was that I was selling amaozon books just for the sake of selling and they had nothing to do with the hub. BS!!! I will be posting that one on my blog in a few weeks. So I deleted all the amazon capsules and it still is not featured. Oh and about the use of the cpasules, get this...... "Authors have an opportunity to earn from their share of ad impressions on their Hubs.

We do have product capsules, but products are not appropriate in all Hubs and each products needs to be directly related to the Hub and complementary.

Basically, you shouldn't simply include unrelated products simply in order to sell items.

So for this Hub, an author is not likely to be looking for any products.

http://ladyguinevere.hubpages.com/hub/Teaching-Out...

The best general strategy for Hubs and product capsules is to remove any that are not directly related to the content of the Hub.

In some cases a few (1 or 2) directly related products can be helpful for authors.

A good example of related and useful products would be including a specialized tool on a recipe or DIY project that would be needed for to make either."


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paradigm search 17 months ago from SoCal, USA

I must be misbehaving in the forums again, both my profile scores have dropped 3 points.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Mine rose up to 99 then begin sinking again, Para. Since I was banned from the forums it hasn't been 100 as it once was on and off till then. I suppose HP considers that a sort of punishment for my behavior. LMFAO!

I certain hope HP has a different group keeping the daily stats from those who keep their in-house affiliate stats.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

OMG! Could the exit poll be anyway near to the truth?


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

Was just thinking of you. It's a BBC exit poll but Teresa May is laughing on the TV (not good) . I don't think the Libs are down to 10 seats, SNP 58 yes, I believe. Remember the Sun's headlines "It's a Tory" Murdoch's dumped the Libdems and SNP is their new baby.

If the polls are right, so were my instincts about the SNP.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

If they are.......some consolation. Paddy Ashdown will eat his hat on TV.

Also lib dems with 10 seats is a bit of a consolation. Plus some geezer was just saying that with the current result a government might not be possible.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

aa, have a look at this http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/general-elect...

If the Libs are down to 10 seats, then, well they need to regroup and detoxify- surely they'd realise that? So Cons (hopefully) can't count on them, especially if Clegg gets the boot. Yet I'm sceptical. Read on Twitter that Cheetham Hill, C.Manchester were queuing for 30 minutes at 9.30 to vote. C.Manchester historically has v.low voter turn out. Something stinks.

In 2010, Fallowfield, in the main a student community, were locked out of polling stations because of the queues. They were largely Libdem voters. Lib Dems increased the vote share but lost seats.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Ok I give up. Just have to wait for the real results to come out.

Watched a bit of the alternative thing on ch4 Paxo was hilarious, totally not what I expected.

Problem is I just can't see a lab SNP coalition. That would be an utterly amazing U turn for Milliband, just can't see how he could pull it off. Ofc they can just start off by defeating Cameron's proposed government, then we can take it from there.

If the exit polls are wrong then the first cpl of hours of tv coverage are complexity pointless.


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WriteAngled 17 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Not happy about Tories in, but also not happy that my constituency stayed Labour because Welsh Labour is so corrupt and kow-tows to Westminster in everything even when it hurts Wales. It did brighten my morning though to see that Sleazeballs has been kicked out.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Was wondering who Sleazeballs was, Ed Balls?

Don't really know that much about Welsh labour WA, but of course I believe you when you say they are evil.

For me the really big picture terrifying thought is that since the times of Thatcher the UK has only ever elected the right wing. The only times Labour won was when they moved to the right of the Tories, with the 'extremely relaxed about the filthy rich' Mandelson and the Bush Poodle, Berlusconi-holiday villa dwelling Blair. What the hell is wrong with this country!

Very depressing overall, especially given the false hope of the polls.

I'm sure I'm being very childish but I take some (childish) comfort from:

the total routing of the Lib Dems. I don't care now that Nick staid, it must be v. bitter for him. Serves them right for selling their should for a few ministerial cars.

The fact that Cameron might find it a lot harder with a small majority than he did as a coalition. Hopefully this will be like the Major era after 1992.....they won against expectations but by the end of the next 5 years they were in disarray.

The terrifying thing is the possibility of a Brexit. Followed by UK breakup. How very ironic that the right scare tactic was Labour propped up by the SNP who 'want to break up the UK' whereas it is in fact a Tory victory that makes it likely.

Anyway better stop writing here and start looking at getting the UK citizenship thing sorted out. Now it looks like it might not be a stupid idea after all.


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HollieT 17 months ago from Manchester, United Kingdom

Well, WA and aa, I might bore you to death with this, but the SNP/Murdoch instinct was correct. He endorsed them in Scottish edition of The Sun and used them in English edition to batter the left wing. SNP should look at the yellow failures today and see themselves in five years time. Except they've been a bit sneeky about it, the SNP'. Cam does not need a coalition to vote things through parliament, therefore SNP do not have to vote with them, that would be political suicide in Scotland. However, he does need all of his very weakened majority to get things passed. What would happen if just a small number of them got stuck in traffic that morning?

I think that's how the SNP's think they'll get new referendum. The same old tricks from the divide and rule neo-liberals. Just like voter reform for the Lib Dems, the next referendum in Scotland is a pipe dream. Unless, the SNP bow to Murdoch's will. What was it he wanted, again, that Brown would not deliver? Research Salmond and Murdoch..

Yes, aa, swear allegiance to Betty, for now.


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aa lite 17 months ago from London

Well, I don't know, I think we might be overestimating the whole SNP problem. Labour did badly in England. The whole left of centre block doesn't have a majority, and that is the real problem.

Of course labour melt down in Scotland is dreadful for them, but, even if they retained all their seats in Scotland, the overall result would still be a Tory majority.

I can't believe the pollsters got it so wrong.

And you are right, Cameron will find it difficult with his small majority. He will now have to deal with the right wing of his party. Still it is a small comfort.

I know there is some unsavoury Salmond/ Murdoch stuff going on, but really I'm not sure how decisive it was. The fact is that Scotland has moved v. much to the left (which is a good thing, we can hardly blame them for this) and Sturgeon clearly campaigned on an anti-austerity agenda.

I am feeling lots of schadenfreude about the lib dems. Serves them right for enabling the Tories.


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Randy Godwin 17 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but I think politics should be left for the men to decide :P.


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Well, this account hasn't been active for 10 days. So thought I'd use it to make a post here.

I've switched to straight AdSense re: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130493 Jeez, my AdSense click-rate sucks! Makes me mad actually.

Amazed how late in the morning I woke up today, usually I'm a 6:00 am kind of guy. Looking forward to both a laid back and productive Saturday.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Revamped my website I did! http://www.websitewithnoname.com/ Is it better or worse now?


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Like the blue, Para!


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Thanks! I've fallen in love with the site all over again. I'm even thinking of getting business cards, I kid you not. Every time a topic in conversation comes up that I've written about, I'll hand the poor victim a card. Somehow I think I'll be handing out more cards to women than men. :D


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Randy, what do you think? http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130517


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

I guess Randy is subtly telling us that he'd like the takeover of the discussion to by British politics to stop.

I shall now stop. Except to say that it is quite obvious who the next leader of Labour should be. Dan Jared, 15 years with the paratroopers and served all around thte world. I'd love to see rich boy dave try to bully him at question time!

In other news my family and I are planning an innovation of the quiet little village where my sister lives. My mum and other sister are first coming here. Then we're going to France with my aunt and my cousin's kid.

I wonder whether my sister can cope!


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

@aa--Just messin' with you ladies ya know. Actually, I enjoy you guys talking about your political situation across the pond and do not wish to quell the conversation at all. Carry on when you feel like it. :)


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I don't know what to think, Para. My Adsense earnings are about the same as they were before the change.


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

I know Randy! And incidentally I wanted to say that my family were going to invade my sister's village, not innovate it.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha, aa, I wondered about that!


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

What a day. One of my articles was stolen and it was one whose theft has been costing me real money every day. Yep, I did the usual Google DMCA. But this time I was finally forced to learn how to do Bing. If you want to read about my feelings and how to do a Bing takedown, I've posted about it. http://www.websitewithnoname.com/2015/05/how-to-fi...


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

The tooth is finally out! Cost me twice what the NHS dentist would but it was done by a real pro. What a relief!

It appears that Farage has just 'undersigned' as leader of his party.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

AdSense is really starting to piss me off. And then the Google debacle. And then the looming summer traffic train wreck (except for Randy). :D

Meanwhile, that link I posted yesterday now includes a universal template for DMCA email letters.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Heck Para, my last two days sucks the big one with Adsense. My traffic is okay but something stinks with the earnings. My two best days are usually Sun. and Mon. so this bodes ill for me, especially this time of year when my earnings usually go up.

My Amazon sales are about normal too. Aaaarrrg!!!


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

HP Ads is also grim. Depending on what AdSense says tomorrow morning, I'll probably be switching back as the lesser of two disasters.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

HPads can kiss my pop-a-loolie! :P


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

I'm sure you saw the Paul Hub thread and his hub. I'm beginning to think we are going to be in for a truly disastrous summer.


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SmartAndFun 16 months ago from Texas

My traffic is way down. :(

Do you think it's just the "Google hates content mills" thing? Is there hope for HP long term? Traffic had been going well for me since around New Years -- but now this. Bummer. Para, thanks to your forum post linking to that PE hub.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I believe HP is paying the price for allowing the horseshit hubs to be published for so long without doing anything about it. I take anything Paul says with a whole shaker of salt these days. :(


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SmartAndFun 16 months ago from Texas

Grrrrrr.... It is frustrating! :(


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Did I understand correctly that EC hubs suffered just as bad as regular non-EC hubs? Not surprised, if that's the case.


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WriteAngled 16 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Yup, and the professionally mangl... ummm edited hubs lost as much as any others.


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

Darn I really need to produce thousands of words about supplants today to pay for tooth extraction yesterday and you guys keep distracting me with forum stuff. Can't resist controversy.

A pm is berating me on getting a number wrong and missing out a line in the disgusting translations. I mean they send the thing as PDF, half of the job is just transcribing all the phone number and addresses and test results which is insanely boring. Do you think putting a 3 instead of a 2 in a REGON no. or such like in a 1000 world piece is fatal to my reputation WA.

I'm sure I do that kind of thing all over the place just the other guys don't bother to tell me. This guy is new and his English is a bit weird, which is weird in a translation company.

Right going to see what the forum stuff is about. I assume we got hit with a major drop in traffic again.


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WriteAngled 16 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

No, I miss out lines and mistranscribe numbers regularly when working from pdfs. I'd write back a snooty note saying that such glitches are only to be expected with pdfs and that is exactly why reputable agencies have another translator review the translation. If the pdf is at all deficient in quality, e.g. fuzzy fax copy, tiny font that becomes even fuzzier on enlargement, need to scroll across screen after enlarging the font to a readable size, skewed scan so lines tilt across the screen, I would go in with all guns blazing and say that they should be happy most of it is correct given the abysmal scan quality.


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

Ahh that is a relief WA. I do really hate getting back emails with "queries", which are often about missed lines or wrong numbers.

I'm not bothered about having to correct them, or even being told about them, but I was worried that I was somehow under performing compared to other people and it would affect me getting more stuff. I got a lot of translations so far this month, and god it feels good!

I don't think this needs a snotty note, I used the word 'berate' rather loosely, he started with a "Your translation are always high-quality to me", he's a new pm and is a bit weird, including a rather flowery style of writing.

Honestly ever since leaving science I have become an incredibly sensible person. I only care about actual practical results. When I was a postdoc I was incredibly suspicious about all sorts of stupid things. I'm really angry at myself about all the misery I suffered for caring about 'what other ppl thought', and 'my hard work is not appreciated' and all the rest.

Nope, as long as I get sent projects and paid for doing them, I honestly don't care about anything else.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Well I'm ready for another adventuresome day. And my AdSense was indeed a deserted wasteland yesterday, back to HP Ads I am.


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WriteAngled 16 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Aa, if you ever take on revision of other people's work, you will see far, far worse than the occasional omission. Some stuff is so bad that it takes me longer to correct than to translate from scratch. I try to avoid doing revision now except for very long-standing, good clients, but doing it reasonably regularly before was a wonderful confidence booster and the reason I feel I have a right to be bolshie!


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Morning all of my fave POs. I can throw a rock into the Marshes of Glynn from my campsite. They were made famous by the poet Sydney Lanier many years ago and the view is beautiful, especially at sunset. I am a happy camper except for the HP screw ups lately. :)


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

I get to see mountains on two sides where I live. A nice quality of life thing.


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

very jealous of your beautiful views Randy and PDS. I believe WA also has a view on mountains (or is it hills).

My Mother arrives in 4 days, at least I will have motivation to clean up a bit before she comes.


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WriteAngled 16 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Yes, from my study I look over the valley to the Bwlch mountain beyond.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Having a relaxing view certainly can inspire one to be creative in some manner, guys. Not necessarily writing though.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

A link from the forums for those who don't go there. A must-read, http://www.cnbc.com/id/102669423


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

That was actually an interesting. I see that Paul acknowledges that squidoo had too much spam. Also I get the impression that he is starting to sound kind of desperate. I wonder if HP will go the same way as Squidoo.

My nephew skyped me yesterday (he now has his own tablet). "Look I am rich" he told me, and he had a bunch of money, of rather high denominations, 50s, 100s etc. I couldn't see clearly what country it was from. Hopefully somewhere with hyperinflation. I don't think it was Euros, if it was then he's obviously robbed a bank.

He told me that he was planning to buy an airplane.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hit him up for a loan, aa! Especially before he blows it all on a plane, that is. :)


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

I wonder what adventures are in store for us today...


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

I see the forums are back to being deserted. What with the revelations yesterday, I seem to have lost all desire to continue work on my new hub. Oh, well.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

I've been entertaining myself by playing with the Christians. It really isn't much of a challenge but it's something to do. They sure do like to make personal attacks on those who ask questions though. I've discovered that most of them don't even know what their guidebook teaches.

http://feenix.hubpages.com/hub/The-Atheist-Who-Cou...


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Want me to resurrect a Forum Amnesty for Randy thread again sometime next week? LOL


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha! HP staff does NOT want me roaming free among the sheep on the forums, Para. It would however, piss them off at you more than likely. :P


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Thanks. You are probably right. I am also beginning to think they are less than thrilled with my idea to put that long ad in place of the little box on the right hand side for those Hubbers who are using straight AdSense in place of HP Ads.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Too bad for them. Time wounds all heels.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Uh-oh. I've gone rascal mode. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130609 . I doubt it will fly, but I couldn't resist. It was a toss up between the Religion or Politics forums, so I flipped a coin.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Raining outside, I like it. Meanwhile, not one singe thread on the forums topic page has been responded to in the last 45 minutes. Talk about dead.

And a pop up ad just showed on your hub. Off to the forums to rat them out.


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aa lite 16 months ago from London

I was bored at the checkout today, passing the time reading the backs of products, and I suddenly realised that toilet roll now comes with detailed instructions of how to wipe your bottom! I kid you not.

What in god's name, is wrong with the labour party? They can't even do the putting forward of names for leadership rate without a kerfuffle.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Well aa, I know some people who probably need instructions for the simplest things. LOL!


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Thanks, aa. My next How-to hub! LOL


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Meanwhile, here's my philosophy of life if anyone is interested: http://goo.gl/oGDN4L What's yours? Forums are dead again.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

When in the hell did they start putting ads on our profile pages? I'm quite sure we don't get a share of those ads and I think it stinks to high heaven!!

I suppose when HP got away with putting the hated RS ads on our hubs--which we also get screwed on--they took it as okay to go further with the crummy ads on our profile pages. Crooks they are!!!


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Randy, there have been ads on my profile page for years; even when Simone was here. And I think I discovered then (the AdSense days) we even get payed for them. I guess HP has decided they like you again. :D :D :D


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

How do they pay us, Para?


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Way back in the straight AdSense days I did a directory for hubs and a directory for questions. Referrals weren't in play for me yet. One day I got an ad click that was neither from a hub nor from a question; so it had to have come from my profile page.


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paradigm search 16 months ago from SoCal, USA

Saturday in the park... What with the latest Google slap, I've found myself directing all my endeavors towards my website instead of HubPages.


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Alastar Packer 16 months ago from North Carolina

Got a chance this morning to fully read that he or she profile with the weird turtle avatar, Randy. About a paranoid schizophrenic of one as I've ever seen on HP. They just won't leave you alone will they bro lol. Notice up thread where our old friend God Shet popped back in to hee hee hee about folks still hanging around big brother's second hand garage? My interpretation is you are big brother and using this hub thread as a throw-away site to make money only off stupid customers. Anyway, as RFK said to Sam Giaconda in those organized crime investigations back in the '50s, " I thought only little girls giggled, Mr Giaconda."


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Ha, Alastar! feenix's hub apparently got unpublished this morning. Probably because it was an insult to Lela as was intended to be and because of the many personal attacks feenix allowed to remain in the comments. I've found from experience he is responsible for removing any comments containing such insults because it happened to one of my former PO hubs when I allowed a comment to remain.

Yes, GS is a piece of work! :)


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Alastar Packer 16 months ago from North Carolina

With discretion and respect a nice nameless person e-mailed me worried you might put a black-magic curse on your antagonists with the now unpublished hub. Hey! I thought I was the paranormal guy with the dark magic ritual powers LOL. Later Randy:)


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Alastar Packer 16 months ago from North Carolina

Got to thinking about that profile. I was to harsh and should have said just the most paranoid one ever seen on HP. Besides, anyone who likes box turtles can't be too bad. Till next time when your Robin sees his buddy jumped on by multiple attackers, not that you need this sidekick lol.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Just returned from a successful quest to catch some flounder at the nearby pier and saw your comments, Alastar. I'm always pleased to have some friendly warriors show up when I'm in a skirmish. :) Funny someone suspected a curse of some sort. HA!


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Alastar Packer 16 months ago from North Carolina

Ha Ha, skirmish, perfect. What'd you catch the flounders with- maybe blood worms? Can't remember as I only caught one as a boy in the former water inlet between Cherry Grove and the NC line. Course they had to fill that in eventually for the beach front hotels or something.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Mud minnows I catch in a nearby creek are excellent bait for flounder,, Alastar. I've waiting for them to start biting since the first of April but they just began biting yesterday.I've been craving some filet of sole. I'll mail you a couple. :P


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Alastar Packer 16 months ago from North Carolina

Natural all the way- very cool bait. Wonder why it took them almost 2 months to start biting? Thanks and would love to eat some Sea Island caught flounder but the cook around here hates fish, won't clean them, and it's only recently I've gotten them into fixing and eating wild-caught Atlantic salmon...which by some miracle they actually like. That was one heck of a magic spell I had to lay to get even that! LOL Say hi to the lovely lady for me:)


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WriteAngled 16 months ago from Treorci, Cymru

Ha, notice our wannabee MTurk executioner in the forums, who supposedly passed the test, has a hubber score of 58. So qualified to axe our hubs, NOT!


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Not surprised at all, WA! From what I've observed the MTurks are no help at all. :(


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Another adventuresome, but totally unproductive day.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Depends on what you mean by productive, Para. My usual summer earnings have kicked in by the look of my Adsense account. Baby needs new shoes........ :)


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Alas, both HP Ads and AdSense are doing terrible for me. Leastwise the despised RS Ads look like they are permanently gone.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Like they say, never look a gift horse in the mouth, Para. They give....then they take away even more.


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

Just stopping by to take a look at what is going on around here....nothing as I surmised. I did a blog on Alastar's weebly site and that took me a day to do....well after all the procrastination that is.


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Randy Godwin 16 months ago from Southern Georgia Author

Hey Debbie, I'm still chillin' on Jekyll, fishing and playing on the beach. Glad you stopped in and visited the chat hub. I'll have to check out your article on Alastar's site.


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

Para, I just got a check from Raluten LinkShare. You asked if it is any good a coule of months ago. I think it is. I went to my account today and found tht I only had 3 of my 7 blogs there and added the link to all my other blogs. You cannot use the link on Hubpages, but only on your blogs or own site. I cannot give you my sign up link here. You can, however see all the Rakuten ads on my blogs is go to my blog. Go down past my pages list and the ones like BestBuy, Tractor Supply, CashStar and all the ones under those are from my Raluten program advertisers. Nothing to do with Google or Hubpages! My signnup button is on there too. I do hope that more people use it.

http://debshodgepodgelodge.blogspot.com/


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

LadyG, thanks. Am checking it out. AdSense continues just not making it these days.

Randy, what's your opinion of AdSense these days? I sure wish more people would pile onto my forum thread about making it better. Do people just not understand what I'm trying to say or am I just plain dead wrong about this somehow? http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/130517

Doing a peaceful, stay at home, Memorial Day weekend. Loving the last of the cold weather before summer.

Continuing to make my beloved website better. I've thrown out everything that could even be remotely construed as a doorway page.


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

Hey there Para! I hope tht it works out for you. Google is so f**ked up now, I don't trust them once single iota. I have had some vewing issues with Blogger too.... no views it says. I don't know about all this, but I do know that I chose the Rakuten Marketing program in spite of Adsense. I also have adsense on my blogs, Google Analytics and Amazon (which now HP doesn't want us to use hence the last stra on here for me.

As for the Memorial Day weekend...we just finished weeding our gardens except for one last one. That will be done this evening and the rest of the weekend will be relaxing,


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

Good Sunny, Sunday Morning Everyone!


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paradigmsearch 16 months ago from USA

Good morning your own wonderful self. :D Raining here, but I like it.

I've been through the desert on a website with no name

It felt good to be out in the rain

In the desert you can remember your name

'Cause there ain't no one for to give you no pain


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SmartAndFun 16 months ago from Texas

Raining here too... has been raining like crazy this spring! We really needed rain here but at this point everyone's sick of it. It is baseball season for my son, but every weekend all the tournaments are canceled because the rain just won't stop! I will be b*tching about the hot, dry weather when it gets here, but at this point it would be a nice change. Our landscaping does look lush and lovely, though, and I haven't had to lift a finger. Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone!


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

Well we have been working in our gardens all day yesterday and I am taking a break and updating my blog for today. Tonight we are going to the BB game to relax and enjoy ourselves. If you want to see all that we have accomplished in our many gardens you can read it all and see it all in pictures here: http://mypersonalgardening.blogspot.com/2015/05/ma...


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SmartAndFun 16 months ago from Texas

Nice work, Deb! I love the wooded area where you live. The only trees we have are those we planted ourselves when we moved in 11 years ago. They've grown so much but are nothing near to your shady forest. I love all your photos and plants, especially the climbing roses! Like you we also have knockout roses -- they do so well here in the hot summer sun. Nice blog!


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Lady Guinevere 16 months ago from West Virginia

SandF, Thanks for visiting my blog. It is a labor of love and sweat and tears.


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