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Hubpages Book of Poetry

  1. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 7 years ago

    Seeing all the wonderful poetry that people write here on Hubpages, I had this idea to create the Hubpages book of poetry, a book that contains a selection of poems written by you, hubber poets.

    The book would serve two purposes:

    Firstly, it would be a compendium of your fellow hubbers' poems that anyone can get hold of and put on his or her bookshelf to commemorate this wonderful community that we are all a part of now. I would like this book to still be with me after 20-30 years to remind me of the awesome people I met, their thought and words and what they stood for.

    Secondly, the book would be sold at Lulu.com. The income generated by the sales might become a great help to a friend of mine who is trying to transfer their life's passion into a business that would serve a good charitable cause. I wouldn't keep any of the money, but donate it to this charitable cause.

    So, I'd like to ask you, poet hubber, if you would approve of the creation of such a book and if you would offer some of your poems to be contained in it? Please, answer this thread or contact me via email, keeping in mind that links to self-owned hubs are not allowed in the forum. smile

    1. wsp2469 profile image61
      wsp2469posted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I have had poetry published before but have never published any poetry hubs here.  I would like to contribute.  Perhaps we could do a hubmob on poetry sometime to amass some poetry more easily?  I assume we would all get free copies?  That could be the publisher's contribution.

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      SirDentposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I would like to sell you the Golden Gate bridge. It is here in my backyard.

  2. Alessia Amnesia profile image59
    Alessia Amnesiaposted 7 years ago

    Do the authors of said poems get a cut of the profit from the book or are you the sole benefactor from this idea?

  3. maguijo profile image59
    maguijoposted 7 years ago

    I'd be happy to donate a poem or two, but can you provide more details about the charitable cause you would donate the money to, and how the funds would be accounted for?

  4. Alessia Amnesia profile image59
    Alessia Amnesiaposted 7 years ago

    "Secondly, the book would be sold at Lulu.com. The income generated by the sales might become a great help to a friend of mine who is trying to transfer their life's passion into a business that would serve a good charitable cause. I wouldn't keep any of the money, but donate it to this charitable cause."

    So your friend would be getting the money? I don't think I like this idea. I'm sure your friend can get a business grant or business loan. Why not donate the money from this book to a more worthwhile cause?

  5. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 7 years ago

    I think 90% of the people here are no millionaires. Myself included.
    Why should I help someone I don't know to achieve some business?

    In the name of what ?

    1. blondepoet profile image79
      blondepoetposted 7 years ago in reply to this

      I agree.

  6. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 7 years ago

    Alessia and maguijo -

    I didn't provide more details, because I'm doing this on my own account. Not even my friend knows about it, so I can't say who they are or what the cause is. Of course, in the end they would know where the money is from, because I would tell them. All I can say is, it is a worthwhile cause. As for the money, since we are talking about a poetry book, I don't expect very high sales, - and so too much income.

    So, those who are interested will offer a poem or two, and they will be in the book. Those who are not, won't. smile

    All I ask is, if you want to be in the book, send me a poem and give me permission to include it.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I've had two poems published in two different books. They sell for $59.95 and $69.99. So that's not a little money. There are a lot of people who buy these books. I got nothing for my poems except the recognition..Whoooopie!!

      1. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Wow. Sorry, I had no idea. smile

  7. Haunty profile image85
    Hauntyposted 7 years ago

    tantrum and blondepoet -

    You shouldn't if you don't want to. I'm just saying that I wouldn't keep any money, but would give it to someone who could use it to solve a social problem.

    I think we should make a distinction here. It's not a business to make millionaires, but a business to make a living. And in my mind it is more worthwhile to support something that both helps someone make a living (read: pay for food and housing) and mends some social problem at the same time than just giving money to charity. smile

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Excuse me.
      I don't even know your real name, nor your friend's.
      I don't know even what you look like.
      I don't know what kind of help are you talking about either !
      And,Do you think all the people that write here are doing well, economically speaking ?
      I know 3 or 4 that have a lot of money problems.
      I'd rather help them first than your friend.
      I think you should get real.

      1. maguijo profile image59
        maguijoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree. This is too weird.

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          Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          it looks like everybody has "moneyproblems" beast sitting in his closet!

          1. Haunty profile image85
            Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yea. Some people make it look like I was asking for money. lol
            I was only asking if they wanted their poems published.

            btw, the business seems to be already gone, so...

      2. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I should get real? You seem to have a bone to pick with me ever since I argued with you in a thread in which you were supporting incest. You have no grounds to talk to me like that, tantrum. You are better off going back to play the village idiot. smile

  8. 2uesday profile image88
    2uesdayposted 6 years ago

    I am curious about how you will cope with the indigestion you suffer from when you read poetry. You mentioned it in the post about favourite poets three weeks ago. smile

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

  9. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    lol

    Not worth commenting.
    you just show what you are.

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Why did you comment then? Oh wait... 12262 comments. That's more than 60 comments every single day you've been here. I see. That must be a record.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I comment because you're offending me .


        I said  that between consenting adults, sex  among cousings was not wrong.

        Even for the Catholic Church


        'The Roman Catholic Church allows marriages farther than first cousins, and first-cousin marriages can be contracted with a dispensation'
        Wikipedia



        So!

        And anyway, what's in discussion here is your 'poetry book', not my opinion on 'sex between close relatives',which was the title of the thread.

        Why don't you explain this Poetry Book thing then ?
        Not incest.!

        1. Haunty profile image85
          Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I just brought this up because you were implying I was amoral. Btw, we are at the same thing right here.

          Let me explain.

          You are taking a big group with a lot of members, pick out some of the members and based on what's true for them you make generalizations for the whole group.

          You say, sex between close relatives is ok, if it's two consenting adults, because it could be two cousins. But for goodness sake, father and daughter, mother and son are close relatives too. So how can you say it's ok in general?

          Same here. You say, supporting a business is bad, because there are bad, greedy businessmen in the world. But hey, there are people, families in business who just try to do something to stay above the surface. People don't easily get jobs these days.

  10. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    BTW, I never suported incest.
    Why don't you read the threads properly!
    you're insulting me !

    And show me where I argued with you!

    So again. Get real !

  11. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    Show me where I said it was bad.

    I only said I need you to explain.

    You didn't give any details.
    If you think that asking you some explanation, means I think it's bad, is an assumption on your part.

    I'm not going to argue with you about sex between close relatives.
    As you only brought this up to offend me, when I never offend you! If you think I did, show me where!
    why don't you explain your Book instead?
    I'm sure a lot of hubbers will be interested.

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You offended me when you said get real, which means that I am fake. Being fake means that I am a liar. Being a liar means that I lied about the business when I said it served a good purpose. If I lied about that then it must serve a bad purpose.

      Tantrum, everything you say has a meta message. It's not just the words you write, but the massage they carry and the judgments they imply.

  12. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    I will be waiting for you to show me where I said it was bad.
    I hate people accusing me of things I never said!
    it seems you're a Master on that !

  13. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    Get real means. Nobody can understand what you're talking about.
    so nobody can share their work with you.

    That's all what 'get real' in this post means!!
    don't imagine things!
    If you do that ,that's not my problem.
    So again,Get real!!
    Until you explain what this book is about, nobody will do anything about it.

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good. Because the offer is gone. smile

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        and this is our 'argument'

        http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/30974?page=6#post665804



        thank you for 'twisting' things !

  14. Ohma profile image80
    Ohmaposted 6 years ago

    Haunty,
    I think the point here is that we are all here to write to earn money. You are asking people to donate thier time, and work but not even offering a realistic explanation for where the donation is going. I for one do not mind sharing but I need much more info than "To help your friend start a business" It is a nice idea to want to help out a friend but you must keep in mind that our work with our names attached to it and no control over the final product or the money involved is simply an unrealistic request.
    I have read several of your hubs and it seems that you take pride in your writing but how bout lets put my adsense ID on a few of them OK?

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      At last a sensible hubber !
      Thanks !! smile

    2. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Ohma,

      I asked if people wanted some of their already written poems in a book like that. No more no less. I didn't ask anybody to do anything for me.

      Also, I didn't know poets were writing for money.

      1. mega1 profile image78
        mega1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Oh, come on now!  People here aren't going to believe this! You are either way ignorant of writers in general, or HP and the people here, or of poets - who often make their living being poets!  I think you need to get more info before you pursue this project - you need to know more about poets and the people you are asking for this favor.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good point.

  15. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    SO, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS BOOK, INSTEAD OF ARGUING WITH ME FOR POINTING OUT YOUR MISTAKES ?

  16. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 6 years ago

    well, Haunty, I agree with Tantrum and others - you won't get much from us for nothing, and no explanation - sorry!

  17. tantrum profile image61
    tantrumposted 6 years ago

    the thing that angers me more is, that because I pointed out this to him, he brought forward a thread, where I never argued with him at all! I just went through it to see ,where. It never occurred!


    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/30974?page=6#post665804

    this is all there's to it !

    1. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No. That's not all there is to it. It's deception. One needs to go back to earlier in that thread to see what it is about.

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Earlier I wasn't talking to you. I was playing with some friends, and making scandalous remarks to see where people would go. I do that a lot.
        anyway, I didn't say anything for which I have to feel bad.
        I only overreacted a bit, as I said ,to see what would happen.

  18. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 6 years ago

    ah well, that totally makes up my mind about the project, won't waste anymore time with it!

    1. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this
      1. mega1 profile image78
        mega1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        This is a good example of exactly what I was talking about on the thread about "does anything annoy you about the forums" or something like that -   I said that it annoys me that people ask for opinions and then can't accept opinions that differ from their own so they start arguing, and it is just a total waste of time!  I like reading people's opinions but I'm not going to try to change their minds!  Sometimes I revise my own opinion a little because someone brings up something important that I hadn't thought of before - but it really has a lot to do with how well people LISTEN to each other and how accepting they can be - and that is interesting to me, it reveals their personalities.  So I won't try to change Haunty, but I think the approach was misguided, and does offend some of us who are struggling when we are asked to just give away a poem.  Hell, I won't even participate in the "women's" hub to publicize our work because I think it is a bit of a rip off.  anyhow - no way to spend an otherwise nice day! huh!

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    Justine76posted 6 years ago

    wow. It was just an idea for a way to help a friend out. I understand that everyone wants to see the results of thier own work. If you dont want to be included in this project, thats perfectly understandable, but its not really a reason to get upset.
    I have a question thats probably lame, but....if you did want to help, you email one poem, its then up to Haunty to do the actual compiling of everything. So, that would take me about 20 minutes. Including setting up my computer and waiting for internet service, then emailing. Im not seeing where thats such a big deal even if all procedes actually went to purchase Haunty's new pet. But would the poem now be 'copied content' if left as a hub?

    1. mega1 profile image78
      mega1posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good points - but #1 when I published something I want to be the one who controls how it gets published or get paid or know the person who is using it very well #2 don't you think it isn't very respectful of us to not even tell us exactly what the "charity" is?  "A friend's new business" doesn't sound like a charity to me #3 why not question people when they ask something of us?  if they respond with their backs up about it, then that puts up a big red flag for me!

      1. tantrum profile image61
        tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree !

    2. Haunty profile image85
      Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Justine, it was just an idea to help someone we both know. You probably know what that is, but under no circumstances will I ever tell anyone, because as I said I would have done this on my all account without my friend's knowing. And so they have nothing to do with it.

      Apart from that, I don't see how it's a big thing either. smile

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        Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        i saw it as a yes or no question. would you like to publish a poem..if not...great..if yes..contact haunty.  oh well.
        you know ill mail you.
        the thing is, nobody wants to feel they have been taken as a fool. red cross donations are considered 'safe' yet nameless homeless old women begging for change are a nuisance and somebody else's problem.

        1. Haunty profile image85
          Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          True enough. I'd been thinking about this for weeks before I posted it. I was not sure. Looks like it was a mistake. smile

    3. tantrum profile image61
      tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Are you serious justine ?
      Maybe as Haunty say, you know who this friend is and what this book is about ?

      1. Haunty profile image85
        Hauntyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Even if she knows, which I'm not sure of, she won't tell you.

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        Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And Justine I don't believe the hard work everyone is speaking of is the 20 minutes to compile everything. It can take hours, even weeks to create a poem. Many times it is about a personal situation..so this person wants us to hand over our copyright material with no contract, no money and not even knowing what it will really be used for...OK I'm in...NOT..

        1. tantrum profile image61
          tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I agree with you again !

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Wow, two or three times already tongue smile

            1. tantrum profile image61
              tantrumposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Not very hard to agree on this one ! Only common sense !
              big_smile

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                Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Oh and I thought we were starting to be hub friends.neutral
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          Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          of course you dont have too
          every single one of my hubs is deeply personal
          i was just saying for me its no big deal to email something ive already written
          sorry if it came out wrong.

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            Deborah Sextonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            No reason to say you're sorry to me. I was just explaining why your request is so upsetting.

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        Justine76posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        oh, i feel another nasty forum stretch coming on
        i just mean, it was an idea geniunely motivated by a good heart, and it came out all wrong in the wording. i 100 percent get it that no one has money to spare. so, just do what you need too. some hubbers are not here for money, and i honestly dont see the harm in asking. does that make sense? im not well today...so please be patient...i HATE it when 2 people im friends with fight.....

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    A Texanposted 6 years ago

    Philanthropic bunch aintcha

  21. bojanglesk8 profile image59
    bojanglesk8posted 6 years ago

    That would be awesome.
    Let's do this.

  22. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 6 years ago

    Haunty - you must think a little more about what you say on these forums! for everyone gets a very good idea of what kind of person you are - it also occurs to me, that HubPages is a business with a registered name, and will want to have something to say about who and why the HubPages name is used, or were you thinking of using it?  You see how complicated publishing a book of poems is? (of anyone's poems, by the way, not just HP people)

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    Justine76posted 6 years ago

    oh....somethings off here
    i never meant to imply anyone should turn over something for nothing. My poems dont make any money here. perhaps everyone else has better sucess. Im going back to 'free rice' now. I am sorry if by saying I know Haunty didnt mean to sound tricky, I came across as offensive. Have a good night everyone.

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