Ain’t Religion Grand?

 

Well I knew it was only a matter of time before we saw someone throwing someone else under the proverbial bus. Who knew that it was going to be the Mormons? That's right, the Mormons have come out to tell the world that they weren't alone in their fight against Proposition 8 in California to ban gays from marrying, they were "asked" to get into the fight by the San Francisco's Catholic Archbishop. Ain't Religion Grand? - Don't Get Me Started!

I read it on one of the sites that is a must for anyone, Andrew Sullivan's Daily Dish. Here's the link http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/the-mormon-cath.html I'd like to say that I'm surprised by this latest bit of news but in all honesty the one thing that I am certainly not is surprised.

You see, I have a real problem with organized religion anyway. I get that there needs to be a building to hold services in or to have your Sunday school in but it always seems to me that the more that people get involved in their actual "house of worship" the more strings become attached, petty infighting and anything but kindness for their fellow man enters into the picture. Jews are not exempt from this by the way. My Catholic partner always marvels at the fact that Jews have to pay to get tickets to go to the High Holy Day services each year. As I've tried to explain to him (and haven't done a very good job) it's because there isn't room for all the Jews that have memberships to sit in shul at the same time for those particular days so seats go at a premium. Hell, when I was little growing up in Arizona, my synagogue would rent the Phoenix Symphony Hall each year to hold the services just so they could get everyone in to atone for their sins. But let's face it, just because it's what you grew up with or what you know, at the base of it all it does seem more than a bit odd that in any religion it seems the more you pay the more you're pray is going to mean.

I think of myself as a highly spiritual person and religious but I don't need a congregation to make me feel "connected." I get all the good that they can do but for every good deed done it seems a little like the song from the musical Wicked - "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished." And such is the example of what we're seeing now as the Mormon Church got into bed with the Catholics and now they're telling everyone at school that the sex wasn't that great. You laugh (and I laugh too) but is it all that different than what goes on at a local high school? I think not!

I'm sure that the whole idea the Mormons have is that since they've been under such fire from the media and the gays that they want a little absolution from the world by letting everyone know that they weren't in it alone but isn't a little like being a tattle tale? I mean to now say that the Catholic Church made you do it (which I guess IS more original than "the devil made me do it") would seem to me a little like when you told your parents you did something because your friend did it. My response to the Mormon Church is the same too - "If the Catholics jumped off a bridge would you do that too?" (Oh please by all means...commence the jumping!)

Believe me when I say that everyone knows that the Catholic Church (the richest in all the land) had to have been involved in the fight against Proposition 8 so unfortunately for some of us there is no real revelation here. But now that both churches have shown themselves off as they really are (the bitchy mean girls from high school) I would hope that some who give their money (or tithe as the Mormons say) to these churches will think again. Is stopping the gays from marrying more important than doing what J squared (Jesus and Joseph Smith) supposedly taught about love and kindness to your fellow man? And isn't that exactly what we gays are doing? Showing our love of our fellow man? I know I am. Ain't religion grand? - Don't Get Me Started!

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Ralph Deeds 8 years ago

Well said. Organized religion causes a lot of mischief in the world.


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Mighty Mom 8 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

SLIS-- Delightfully wicked and right on point, as usual. Imagine all the good that could be done if the Catholic and Mormon Churches invested all that money and energy into a cause that could actually do some GOOD instead of depriving gays of their constitutional rights. Love the J Squared reference. And truly, that is the essence of the dichotomy. Too often there seems to be a conflict between what Jesus really preached and what modern "Christians" preach...


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somelikeitscott 8 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Right with you Mighty Mom...wouldn't it be better to spend the money they spent on hate on homeless people or something? I just don't get it. But then again, I don't get a lot of things. Thanks for reading.


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Mighty Mom 8 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

I dunno, SLIS. I'm Catholic and I think "we" have some pretty bizarre rituals. But at least atoning for my sins is still "free." Not sure I'd fork over beaucoup denaro to score a seat in church. Do they have scalpers and sell prime spots on e-bay? LOL. Probably becasue we've successfully converted much of the world we are able to raise money based on the sheer volume of Catholics. Still, it's a clever idea:-)


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somelikeitscott 8 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Funny you should mention scalpers there was an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry David does just that...he buys tickets off a scalper...very funny and very true. I think one of the reasons I have such a warped sense of the whole religion thing is because of my uncle who was a rabbi and is now a flight attendant for Southwest. Ya think?


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Mighty Mom 8 years ago from Where Left is Right, CA

I'm searching for a logical connection -- any connection (not even logical) between rabbi and flight attendant. That would pretty much warp my sense of the whole religion thing, too. Does not compute, does not compute!

In my family we had a nun (every Irish Catholic family has at least one). Sister Brendan wanted to give her nephew (my dad) a gift for being accepted into the FBI. So she rode all the way from Jersey City, NJ to the Bronx on the subway with a Glock in the folds of her frock! You go, girl!



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Stacie Naczelnik 8 years ago from Seattle

The medieval Catholic church often sold "tickets to heaven", and I'm sure many substantial donations are still the selling of indulgences: you pay for this and your wicked sins will be forgiven.

My partner and I have talked about whether our future children will be raised Catholic or not. He wants them to be, but I don't. He doesn't practice, but did for most of his childhood. I simply cannot, with good faith, wrap my mind around exposing our children to any religion that makes them feel guilty, openly (or quietly) opposes social justice issues that everyone deserves, or sheds a damning light on women.

Anyway, that was my diversion. Mormon, Catholic, or whatever: I wish people's religions would stop dictating how everyone else has to live.


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somelikeitscott 8 years ago from Las Vegas Author

Stacie, Of course I agree with you but my mind is really racing over all the things that we might be able to "sell tickets" to - I don't know...Heaven? Hell? Next Tuesday? Less Stressful State of Mind? I'll start printing the blank tickets immediately and we can just "write crap in" as we go!


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Stacie Naczelnik 8 years ago from Seattle

Sounds like a fabulous way to make money. Forget adsense, right? You cover Las Vegas, and I've got Seattle. We should franchise this maybe?


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vitaeb 8 years ago from Shenandoah Valley, Virginia

I wanna get in on this...send me some tickets, discount rate. You guys are something else.

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