The End of Capitalism and the Rise of Modern Communism: USSA – United Soviet States of America

The United States government, with its unprecedented bail-out plan, has been nationalizing the economy. And Obama, the leading presidential candidate, wants to “spread the wealth around”—to make us all more equal regardless of ability, effort, and commitment. Might we one day witness the birth of the United Soviet States of America? Look at my editorial cartoon for inspiration if you feel you want to comment.

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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

Ridiculous!


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

What is ridiculous Ralph?


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

The claim that we are experiencing the "end of capitalism," or the "rise of the USSA." Capitalism is alive and well in the U.S. and most of the rest of the world. It is ironic, however, that the Bush administration de-regulators have been forced to take some of the actions that they have taken recently. The pendulum is swinging away from de-regulation back toward greater regulation of Wall Street and industry. This in no way signifies the death of our free enterprise market system.


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

Rainmaker is from Bulgaria. He knows communism when he sees it. I'm from Russia, and also know it first hand. And I agree to him.

You guys are heading either into communism with Obama, or National-Socialism with McCain. Sad but highly likely...


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

You sound like Chicken Little crying that the sky is falling.

As the linked "Economist" article pointed out the "Bailout is pragmatic, not ideological." And

Sadly another lesson of history is that in politics economic reason does not always prevail—especially when the best-case scenario for most countries is a short recession. “Barriers to intercourse, jealousies, animosities and heartburnings” loom.

But it need not be so. If the bail-outs are well handled, taxpayers could end up profiting from their reluctant investment in the banks. If regulators learn from this crisis, they could manage finance better in the future. If the worst is avoided, the healthy popular hostility to a strong state that normally pervades democracies should reassert itself. Capitalism is at bay, but those who believe in it must fight for it. For all its flaws, it is the best economic system man has invented yet.

BTW, the cartoon is well done. However, I disagree with it's conclusion.


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troylaplante 7 years ago from Selma, NC

Yes, capitalism is indeed the best economic system invented, but we are slouching closer and closer to socialism and communism in this nation. It is incremental. It does not happen all at once, but law by law, policy by policy, and election by election. A great example is that Obama is the most liberal Senator in America, a confirmed socialist. His Marxist views are gaining in popularity and will most likely gain much traction in the nation.


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

LOL Ralph, I don't know who is Chicken Little, but I am definitely not crying.

I am working on contigency plan for my family, in case American public will repeat Russian, German, Chinese, etc. mistakes and allow this kind of scenario to unfold.

Of course I will be glad if you guys finally wake up and don't allow this to happen, but it looks highly unlikely to me. You are in the middle of total nationalization, and as soon as it is close to completetion, and people start recognizing what is happening, terror will begin.


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Len Cannon 7 years ago from Brooklyn, NY

The United States is too right wing to become a communist dictatorship. Even vaguely socialist plans are met with derisive scorn. Worst case scenario (and by "worst", I only mean most extreme) the United States could end up with a Socialist Democrat government, akin to the type you see in Wester European nations such as Sweden.

Of course, not even that will happen. Even our supposed "most liberal senator" can't sell people on something as simple as socialized health care, which has yet to start the Red Revolutoin within our northern neighbors. The United States is not at risk of collectizing all capital gains at this point.


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rainmakerrain 7 years ago from United States Author

Thank you everyone for your comments. Ralph Deeds, it doesn't matter how you call it, but THE FACT IS A FACT: the United States thanks to Henry Paulson and Congress nationalized the economy just like the communists in my country did--without asking the ordinary citizens. Obama, however hard he tries to claim he is not a socialist, inteds to act like one. That is, to make us all equal--which is pure socialism.

Carl Marx believed that capitalism is a stage that will eventually lead to socialism and communism. I tried to add a link to the original article but since it's not there, here's the full free online text of "DAS KAPITAL": http://www.bibliomania.com/2/1/261/1294/frameset.h...


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rainmakerrain 7 years ago from United States Author

Len Cannon, I'm just saying that we are moving toward socialism -- not dictatorship. We can't know if it will work in the United States which is a democratic society at its best. In the former Soviet Union and satelites it was socialist dictatorship, not democracy.


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

Sorry, they didn't nationalize the economy. They provided temporary assistance to a few banks in order to avert the huge losses to the entire economy from a long and deep recession. Time will tell whether their action will be successful. We are definitely moving toward socialism. We are moving toward badly needed increased regulation of the financial sector which has been acting irresponsibly and dishonestly and greedily in recent years.


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William F. Torpey 7 years ago from South Valley Stream, N.Y.

Obama's election will not take us to socialism. It will prevent the Republican effort to take us into fascism. The United States has many socialistic programs, like Social Security and Medicare, but that doesn't mean the country is socialist. Ralph is absolutely correct that capitalism is alive and well here, but free enterprise isn't like free love, it requires sensible regulations that counter the greed and unethical tendencies of capitalists. Liberals want freedom and human rights for everyone while the right wing conservatives in power now only want freedom and human rights for the wealthy. What the U.S. needs more than anything else are changes in the laws of incorporation. Corporations, contrary to some interpretations of the U.S. Constitution, are not "persons." Those laws that give corporations the power of "persons" must be changed. The election of Obama will be a good start.


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

Correction: We are definitely NOT moving toward socialism.

Well said William.


thugg-it 7 years ago

During my obersvations in life gov't rarely relinquishes control once obtained. Only when the citizens take immediate massive action to reclaim their freedoms will capitalism without restrictions on labor be returned. As long as the general population in the US continues to choose the lesser of 2 evils between the DNC & RNC, we will conitune down the road towards socialism/ facism respectibly. What makes the US great is our ability to choose for ourselves and work for the fruits of our labor. As long as we submit ourselves to the tactic of division the sooner we'll be concured into submitting our liberty for security.


Stas 7 years ago

During the great depression everyone around the world screamed that the capitalism was dead and that the US is turning towards socialism. The truth of the matter is that nothing of this sort happened. When the times are good everyone seems to realize that there are businesses cycles and for every boom there is a bust, however whenever economies go bust the general public starts to spell doom of capitalism.

The storm will pass and everything will go back to where it was before, which includes putting the "DAS Capital" back in the bin too.


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Ralph Deeds 7 years ago

True. The greater danger is that the changes implemented by Obama and Congress will be insufficient--to end the war in Iraq; to avoid sinking deeper into a similar quagmire in Afghanistan; to improve our broken health care system and so forth.


ralph 7 years ago

The tragic state of our economy, as I understand it, is a result of allowing the foxes to guard the henhouse. This is not so much about capitalism failing and socialism gaining ground, but what changes are necessary at this point in time to get us back on our feet, and placing systems to prevent a reccurance. The forces driving our economies need to be transparant, and need to be regulated to an extent where growth is encouraged, but underhanded and irresponsible greed driven mechanics are strictly prohibited. Right now, at this moment, corporate greed has driven the world to its knees - not enterprising innovative capitalism. It is a crime worth investigating, and teh guilty parties need to be punshed in the severest way.

Regarding socialism and social services, if poor economic practices are allowed to continue in our health and welfare services, then certainly we are obligated to force stricter control on those admistrations in order for every man woman and child to have the best health care possible. The cost alone, of a sick nation is restrictive to growth, even if you fail to regard the moral aspects of a failed health care network.


ralph (a) 7 years ago

p.s. If we were truly moving into a communistic state, those ultimately found guilty of getting us into this situation would most likely be taken out and shot.

As it is, they'll probably get a slap on the hand, maybe serve a year or three in a comfy institution with weekly conjical visits and retire with billions in hand.


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rainmakerrain 7 years ago from United States Author

Ralph, there's difference between Cummunism with capital C and lowercase-c communism. The first is Soviet-type that also includes totalitarian dictatorship, while the second means a society where property is held in common.


DRSANGLE 7 years ago

We are experiencing and watching not the failure of free markets, capitalism, we are seeing the failure of yet another communist nation.

We have had increasing amounts of communism for over sixty years. The difference in the U.S. and the reason people have tolerated it is because we have "stuff" contrary to previous communistic nations that started with little that usually had dictators or some other form of abusive, destructive, a few people benefit and their buddies types of governmental control. More control, more regulations, more and more and more government corruption of not following the law of the land that would prevent these types of problems that have caused every previous empires to fail. Human Nature.

The answer always given from those that promote the evil is that it just wasn't done right or just not enough of it was done. It is always going to make things "more fair" but who decides what is fair. It never includes the controllers. No matter how much destruction they bring, people they kill, they do it because they are making it better.

Socialism, Communism are religions promoting heaven on earth. A "state" religion which is illegal under the U.S. Constitution. Are you going to allow more "state" planning? Five year plans? More control? More Corruption? Do you really think your going to get to keep your "stuff" if you just go along and do nothing.

Believe me, not all the people in Soviet Russia were starving and freezing to death. Do you have to get to cold and hungry before you take the time to stand up for yourself. Make a phone call. Write a letter. Become educated as to your responsibility to protect your freedom. We are here at that moment history tells us about. What did you do about it?

Thank you and those that so far have given so much for me to express.

DRSANGLE

U.S. Citizen - every citizen has sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution of the U.S. and against enemies foreign and domestic.


Rebel 7 years ago

This is not bad unless they start taking what freedoms we have. this would be the next step to making a utopia. but i believe we are going to see a rebellion that will Fracture the US so lets see


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carminenyc 7 years ago from NYC

The United States can no more be a communist state than Russia can be a democracy. It's simple not in either nation's DNA. GREAT editorial cartoon, though!


Confedrate Man 5 years ago

I think that if Sweden formed a semi-communist government based on Soviet Communism and American capitalism, it should be called the Communist Indo-American Swedish Federation, or CIASF. I think that is sounds cool. To be honest, I really don't care if Sweden became communist. I just thought that CIASF sounds cool.


Quentin 4 years ago

where do i sign up for this USSA

Lets remove the 50 stars and make them 50 hammers and sickles


Allen 4 years ago

Issues Issues Issues

The ISSUE isn't the price of gas, it isn't jobs, it's whether the United States of America is still standing.

We will not have any need for gas, or jobs, if the USA is not here and in its stead is an atheist communist morass.


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pramodgokhale 4 years ago from Pune( India)

Sir,

It is interesting topic and at least you come to the conclusion.To mu knowledge Human mind is a complex thing and over the centuries many philosophies or social orders emerged and vanished so capitalism and communism are no exception.

To go to Stalin era ,then it's a dream reinventing wheel does not make sense, welfare should be the priority, the people understand that only.


ha 3 years ago

i dont understnd whett all thisss is bout

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