TVIExpress.com Scam: "Warren Buffett owns TVI Express" and 6 other Lies it and its Members are Telling

Founded on Lies and Vagueness

TVI Express claims to be an international conglomerate "touching lives globally". However, with some simple investigation, you will find that TVI Express is an international scam that is founded on lies and vagueness. Furthermore, it has continued to lie, and allow members to lie for them. Their business practice is a pyramid scheme cloaked in buzzwords, disguised by a product you are NOT required to sell, and gives so-called benefits that are available free elsewhere. It is being investigated by authorities across multiple continents. It is a scam of international proportions.

In this article, you will lean how TVI Express have lied about what it does, its location, its connections within the industry, and more. TVI Express has so far allowed members to lie for them, and did nothing to combat the false information perpetuated by members. Furthermore, TVI Express thus far has refused to answer any questions regarding their compliance with laws in European Union, the US, and other countries regarding pyramid schemes (and banning of such), These are NOT the ways a reputable and legitimate company would operate.

I am not a lawyer, nor do I study law. Thus, I cannot vouch for the interpretation of the laws mentioned. This article is my opinion, based on the interpretation of the evidence I have found, and because they all have evidence supporting them, they cannot be construed as slander or defamation.

So what exactly is a scam? A scam is an act of depriving someone (usually of money or possession) by deceit/deception. You will find that TVI Express has deceived the public for over a year, by creating the illusion that they are far more legitimate than they actually are.

Any way, let us first examine the seven lies that TVI Express themselves have told. Then we will explore what lies have TVI Express allow their distributors to tell, and finally, how the world is reacting to this scam. And the world is reacting. United States, following Australia and China, have issued legal orders and prosecution against TVI Express, while other countries are investigating.

A Sherlock Holmes Story

Does any one read Sherlock Holmes? The classic tales by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, not the movies. You may have came across "The Red-Headed League". It is a story that has particular significance to this topic.

in the story, a man was employed by supposedly "The Red-Headed League", to do nothing. Sherlock Holmes looked through the evidence, and determined that the whole thing was simply a ploy to get the man out of his house, so a team of burglars can dig through the man's house and steal from the Bank of London's underground vault. It is a distraction.

And that is what you have here: what TVI Express supporters call a "product" is a gimmick to disguise the fact that there really is no product. Also, keep in mind that they use the term 'travel' rather broadly. They can refer to either of two things: the "certificate" you get with the distributorship, OR the backoffice, which is just a custom-branded version of Travelocity (which is actually FREE to use). If you try to ask them which one is the product, they will not give you a straight answer.

TVI Express Lie #1: it is a direct selling company

VI Express claims to be "next big giant in the direct selling industry" (ref 1).Yet its own FAQ says "You don’t need to sell any products." (ref 2) That simply makes no sense at all.

UPDATE: TVI Express have in late May 2011 removed "You don't need to sell any products" from their own FAQ. However, TVI Express has yet to explain what product does it expect its "distributors" to distribute. Furthermore, this FAQ item can still be found on various TVI Express "member" websites.

So what does TVI Express sell? TVI Express itself is remarkably VAGUE about what it does sell. It just mumbles something about combining travel and Internet and network marketing. Even its members are not exactly sure what is the product. Some will claim the "7-day 6-night accommodations (which you get with the $250 membership, but you need to pay another $150 to redeem)" is the product. Others say the "back office", where you access a travel portal powered by Travelocity, is the product. However, both alleged products offer little benefit of substance. The former is not a retail product, because it is from TVI Express to member, and was NOT retailed. The latter is available for FREE on Travelocity.com, and again, is from TVI Express to member, not a product sold to outside. So what is the product of TVI Express?

That becomes clear when you read the FAQ a bit further: it requires you to recruit two more people, and teach each how to recruit two more people. (ref 3). The only thing TVI Express requires you to sell is itself. There may be something else that you can sell, but it is irrelevant, because you are NOT required to sell ANY of it. And with no sales, it cannot be a "direct selling" company.

UPDATE: TVI Express have also removed this item from its own FAQ. However, its compensation plan states clearly that you can only "cycle out" by filling the two "boards" with recruits. Again, the item can still be found on various "member" websites.

Many TVI Express distributors (yes, that's what TVI Express calls its members) (ref 4) will claim that TVI Express *does* have a product, and it is travel. However, when a distributor are NOT required to sell any of the product, having a product is irrelevant. Why would you hire a salesperson, and tell him that he does not have to sell anything? It is obvious that he is not really a salesperson at all! (See the "Sherlock Holmes story" sidebar) Even now, with the revised FAQ, more than two years later, TVI Express still refused to tell us what is its "product". In fact, it has NO PRODUCT PAGE OR SECTION on its own website.

TVI Express has no 'consumable product or service' that you must sell to consumers to make money, but promises you to earn big money by recruiting, it is a pyramid scheme.

Some TVI Express distributors claim that the product is the membership itself. They are deliberately ignoring the fact that no "club" would REQUIRE you to recruit more people, and pay you BIG MONEY for it, but have no sales to outside customers. Only pyramid schemes do that. Real clubs provide real benefits to members. TVI Express provide benefits that cost additional money to redeem, all the hotels are near India, and a travel portal that is available for FREE. It has no real benefits to members, other than to qualify for $10000, if you refer about 200+ people.

TVI Express has engaged in deliberate deception and obfuscation of its own business. However, once you pierce the cloak, you will find that the only product you are required to sell it itself, and that basically means TVI Express requires you to assimilate others, like the Borg (in Star Trek: The Next Generation), so they can go assimilate yet other people. That is the very definition of a pyramid scheme.

Remember, a scam is an act of depriving you of your money by deception. When a company cannot even tell you what exact it sells, but states outright you have to join by paying, then you don't need to sell any product, but you do have to recruit, you are being scammed.

Ref 1 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/index.php

Ref 2 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php#2 (link no longer available)

Ref 3 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php#4 (link no longer available)

Ref 4 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/index.php, look in lower right corner

The building TVI Express claim to be in, clearly too big!
The building TVI Express claim to be in, clearly too big!
And Regus ONLY have virtual offices at that location!
And Regus ONLY have virtual offices at that location!
Gee, how many companies share that same address?
Gee, how many companies share that same address?
Thai Website tvismart.com says this is TVI Express office...
Thai Website tvismart.com says this is TVI Express office...
But they stole the picture from the landlord's website.
But they stole the picture from the landlord's website.

TVI Express Lie #2: it is headquartered in London, UK

TVI Express claims to be a "leading multi-national conglomerate headquartered in London, UK". (ref 5). However, its own "contact us" page shows only one office in UK (ref 6), which is at

Lakeside House
1 Furzeground Way, Stockley Park
Heathrow UB11 1BD

UPDATE: Sometime in 2011, TVI Express removed "in London, UK". It now only admits to being an international conglomerate". However, why does TVI Express use "London UK" phone number (country code 44, London prefix) if it no longer admits to being in London? And why does its own webpage says "current time in London"?

If you put in that address into Google Maps, it will correct it for you. The real address is 1 Furzeground Way, Stockley Park, Uxbridge, Middlesex, UK

If you click on the "Directions" link, then enter London as origin, you'll find that the address is NOT in London, but over 15 miles from center of London (link to Google Map). At best, it's in a suburb of London, but NOT within London city limits.Thus, TVI Express is NOT headquartered in London, UK, and they lied. (This lie was finally fixed up in 2011, without explaining why did they lied for TWO YEARS.)

Furthermore, switch to satellite view (not the Streetview, as Streetview does NOT have views of Furzeground Way), and you'll find a label called "Regus" at that address. A screenshot of the location is provided. That building is too big to house TVI Express only. Yet there is no room number, no floor number, and such, in the address. That listing is often claimed by some TVI Express distributors as "proof" that the listing was "verified by Google". However, if you read that page, you will find that the page is "owner-verified". In other words, TVI Express can write whatever they want in there. Even the photo of the building was "provided by owner".

If you perform an advanced search, on the same screen (click on advanced search, next to the search button) and search for businesses, you'll find 35 businesses near that address. Some are across the street, but AT LEAST A DOZEN MORE businesses share that exact same address with TVI Express at the Uxbridge location, no room number, no floor number. Some examples are:

TaxAssist Accountants
Excelium Umbrella Services
Barcode Systems
Digitonix

and many more.

Regus, a virtual office provider (click on the link to learn about the services they provide), is in the building, according to Google Maps. Thus, it is almost certain that this location is a virtual office, with no personnel. In fact, as the screenshot shows, Regus ONLY OFFERS VIRTUAL OFFICE TO RENT at the Uxbridge location.

TVI Express has lied about its headquarter before. A similar analysis was done with their previous address within London city limits, the Marble Arch Tower address. That address had the same problem: no room number, no floor number. It is certainly another virtual office.

Furthermore, if you apply the same analysis technique to their Cyprus address, you will find at least three other businesses sharing the exact same location, which makes that location certainly ANOTHER virtual office. Furthermore, a phone number for the Cyprus office was never published.

That only leaves the office(s) in India at a real office. Indeed, TVI Express website now shows a number for India in addition to the main number.

Recently TVI Express allegedly opened an office in Indonesia. However, some locals have expressed concerns that the office is in an office building where offices can be rented month to month. This cannot be independently confirmed.

So why would a company in India lie and make you think it is based in UK? The most logical explanation is to make it sound more legitimate than it actually is. A company "headquartered in London UK", or even a "international conglomerate" is a lot more impressive sounding than a tiny company based in Bangalore, India, after all. And if proper paperwork was done, it would make legal inquiries more difficult, and lawsuits prohibitively expensive.

This is yet another sign of a scam: another piece of the deception to deprive you of your money.

Ref 5 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/aboutus.php

Ref 6 -- http://www.tviexpress.com/contact.php

Watch this comparison between Travelocity and TVI Express booking website

What is an "affiliate"?

In an affiliate program on the web, you have your own website, but you feed customers to another merchant, to whom you are "affiliated with". Amazon Associates have you listing Amazon.com merchandise on your website, and if the customer clicks through and buys the item, you get commission based on the sale.You can read the affiliate program details on wctravel.com yourself. It's actually very easy to do so.

In this case, TVI Express is merely an affiliate of Travelocity. Any travel you book are actually with Travelocity, not TVI Express. If you look at wctravel.com, World Choice Travel website, you will find that there are virtually no requirements to get such a portal. 

TVI Express Lie #3: It has strategic partners in travel industry

TVI Express claims to backing "Involving strategic alliances with some of the biggest names in the Travel world..." (ref 7)

Some TVI Express distributors went as far as claiming alliances or partnership or even "third-party relations" with any hotel chain, cruise lines, rental car companies, airlines, and any other travel business they can name. And they use that as evidence of TVI Express's legitimacy. Here is a recent comment posted here on hubpages:

"... do u think companies like disney world, hertz, marriot, klm, sheraton, and many many more would have partnered with this company if it wasn't a legitimate company? c'mon dude!" (ref 8)

This comment is a common-theme used by many TVI Express supporters, basically claiming legitimacy by association.

Furthermore, some TVI Express distributors have claimed as far as Sir Richard Branson (Virgin Atlantic, among others) is an investor in TVI Express, Warren Buffet owns a piece of TVI Express, and so on and so forth. However, we will discuss celebrity endorsements in a different segment.

So what is the truth? The truth is far less grandiose than TVI Express would like you to think. Instead of a multitude of business partners, TVI Express only have one: Travelocity. And it is merely that of an affiliate relationship. In fact, here's the admission on an Indonesia TVI Express website:

"Apart from this, we [TVI Express] have a tie up with Travelocity to provide discounts on travel deals accessible through backoffice."
-- cited from http://kliktviexpress.com/pengumuman

So what is the nature of this "tie-up"? Travelocity operates a "Travelocity Partner Network", through another website, called World Choice Travel (wctravel.com). Here's what they do, in their own words:

"World Choice Travel, a division of the Travelocity Partner Network , is the industry leader in offering scalable, private-label travel solutions that allow our partners to build their own comprehensive online travel portal." (ref 9)

And that's exactly what TVI Express got... a private-label travel portal with the full power of Travelocity. That is what some TVI Express distributors claim to be their "product". See the video for an exact comparison: there is no doubt that TVI Express has no ties with any "major" travel company except Travelocity, and only as an AFFILIATE.

UPDATE: In 2011 TVI Express started claiming 94000 hotels. This is tracked to a travel provider called HotelPros.com based in Turkey, hardly a "major" travel company.

Furthermore, the companies named as "partners" do NOT like their logos used without their permission, which is what TVI Express have been doing in those Powerpoint presentations they have prepared for download. According to newspaper Mallorca Zeitung in Spain, TVI Express is being sued by Marriott, Avis, and Lufthansa, for falsely representing them as partners in TVI Express promotional material. The article is in German, so you will probably need to read this Google Translator Link to the article instead.

In a more recently rebuttal, some TVI Express distributors are claiming "corporate tie-up" with RCI, and some hotel chains in India and Indonesia. However, query to RCI shows that RCI does NOT sell timeshare directly and any representation by "other entity" [TVI Express] is "unauthorized". Working relationship with a few hotel chains (about 100 hotels) in Southeast Asia is NOT "strategic alliances with the biggest names in the travel world".

Why would TVI Express lie about having "strategic partners"? The most logical reason is to sound more legitimate than it is.

Remember, the definition? Scam is act of depriving someone through deception. The company has lied about having alliances or partnerships, and that is another piece in the scam.

Ref 7 -- cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/opportunity.php

Ref 8 -- cited from comment made by "ucantstoptvi" at http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Real-Truth-About-TVI-Express

Ref 9 -- cited from http://www.wctravel.com/

What TVI Express claimed: "best investment"
What TVI Express claimed: "best investment" | Source
The actual company Warren Buffett was referring about "best investment"... Warren Buffett controls Berkshire Hathaway, and Berkshire Hathaway controls Pampered Chef.
The actual company Warren Buffett was referring about "best investment"... Warren Buffett controls Berkshire Hathaway, and Berkshire Hathaway controls Pampered Chef. | Source
The actual source of the quote: misquoted from the book, which is already out of date
The actual source of the quote: misquoted from the book, which is already out of date | Source

TVI Express Lie #4: It has celebrity endorsements

TVI Express features prominently on its front page a section called "Expert Watch", with picture of Warren Buffet! So what do you get when you click on it? A bunch of quotes by Warren Buffet, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Robert "Rich Dad" Kiyosaki, and more. The quote from Warren Buffet was "...the best investment I ever made".

First of all, TVI Express claimed Mr. Buffet was the world's richest man. THAT IS WRONG. As of 2010, according to Forbes, it's not even Bill Gates. It's actually Carlos Slim Helu of Mexico. Even in 2009, the year that TVI Express claim to have launched, Warren Buffet was #2 (BIll Gates was #1). You have to go back to 2008 to see Warren Buffet as world's richest person. So it's clear that TVI Express do not value accuracy of their own statement.

Second, the source of the alleged quote was a book by Randy Gage, published in 2005! The quote is actually:

"Dollar for dollar, it [network marketing / Pampered Chef] is the best investment I've ever made." (ref 10)

Thus, the quote was re-worded in such a way that hundreds (perhaps thousands) of people actually believed that Warren Buffet had invested in TVI Express, and it's "best investment I've ever made"! TVI Express did not tell you that the only MLM company that Berkshire Hathaway still owns is Pampered Chef. Even "3 companies" that TVI Express claimed is out of date.

By NOT telling you that TVI Express is NOT among Berkshire Hathaway's holdings, TVI Express is confusing the issue, leading to many people getting the impression that TVI Express *is* part of Berkshire Hathaway's holdings! Is the misquote deliberate? That is hard to judge. But the fact is people have raised questions about the quote since the company started, and TVI Express have NEVER addressed this potential misunderstanding.

And people definitely have misunderstood. For example:

"Leadership: TVI Express has some of the greatest investors in the world backing this company. For example, Warren Buffet, Mike Branson, and many others are involved." (ref 11)

Who the **** is "Mike Branson"? The only "Mike Branson" is that fake card that TVI Express puts on its frontpage! Perhaps he meant Sir Richard Branson of the Virgin Group?

Further search of Google did NOT turn up any links between Sir Richard Branson and TVI Express, other than alleged statements by TVI Express distributors, but with NO EVIDENCE to back them up, just generic statements like:

"Backed by Richard Branson and some other multi billion dollar companies, TVI express offers a unique travel and lesure package..." (ref 12)

" Besides the massive amount of large multi-national companies providing the travel benefits and clearly being labeled as sponsors on their [TVI Express] site (Warren Buffet and Sir Richard Branson also appear there)..." (ref 13)

Apparently, TVI Express *had* a "testimonial" about the power of network marketing by Sir Richard Branson on their website as well, and this quote had since been removed!

A search of the Internet turned up VIE at Home, which used to be Virgin VIE at Home, a home-party and cosmetics direct-sales company. It was indeed founded by Sir Branson as "Virgin Cosmetic Company". However, Sir Branson and the Virgin group had divested ALL INTEREST in this company in January 2009, according to Wikipedia. Thus, any quote that claim that Sir Branson owns a MLM company, by the time TVI Express launched, would not be true.

One can then surmise the reason for the removal of such a quote from TVI Express website, and how other people may have gotten the wrong impression, esp. if TVI Express had performed a similar "misquote" they had did with Warren Buffet.

All of the other quotes on the same page are endorsing the entire network marketing concept, NOT TVI Express itself.

Did TVI Express intentionally misquote celebrities to make them appear as if they are endorsing TVI Express, instead of the entire industry? Did TVI Express manipulate the the quotes to imply that TVI Express is owned by or invested in by famous investors? They certainly have a reason to misquote, to appear more legitimate. They *did* say they are owned by a "prestigious investor group", did they not? Deliberate deception is much harder to prove, but given all the OTHER LIES (not based in UK...) they have perpetrated, it is certainly possible within part of their scam.

Since May 2010, there has been a lot of articles by TVI Express distributors that attempt to explain the wording mentioned above as "not confusing", and any misinterpretation is not the responsibility of TVI Express. Yet there has been no official clarification from TVI Express. A legitimate and reputable company would have added some explanation LONG time ago, not leave it to their minions to explain things.

There also has been some TVI Express distributors that tries to claim the opposite: because people like Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki have NOT publicly denied any association with TVI Express, TVI Express is not a scam. If you think that is logical, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I want to sell you. (That's a joke. Arizona has no coastal region at all)

It bears repeating, that scam is accomplished through deception, and TVI Express has deceived all its members about how (il-)legitimate it actually is. One of the best way to lie is to tell only a half-lie, by telling the truth, but in a misleading way.

Ref 10 -- cited from http://www.richardbrooke.com/articles2/ezine_july05.asp who cited from someone else

Ref 11 -- cited from http://ezinearticles.com/?TVI-Express-is-an-Exploding-Home-Based-Business-Opportunity&id=2803121

Ref 12 -- http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=76427963057

Ref 13 -- http://ezinearticles.com/?How-TVI-Express-Can-Pay-So-Well&id=3272164

TVI Express announcement: your trip now costs extra $150 USD.
TVI Express announcement: your trip now costs extra $150 USD.
TVI Express promises 11 resorts in India, plus maybe another 30 unnamed (also in India), no promise about rest of the world!
TVI Express promises 11 resorts in India, plus maybe another 30 unnamed (also in India), no promise about rest of the world!

TVI Express Lie #5: the 7-day 6-night trip

One of the benefits you were supposed to get when you pay the membership fee was a 7-day 6-night accommodation at a 5-star hotel, and free companion ticket. The truth is anything but simple, as again, with TVI Express.

Product... that is not sold to any consumer

One of the biggest problem is the nature of TVI Express itself, and its alleged product. Some members have claimed that this 7-day 6-night trip is their "main product", which proves that TVI Express has a real product and thus is not a pyramid scheme. The biggest problem with this argument is that this "product" is NOT being sold by distributors to outside consumers, but instead, sold from TVI Express to its own distributors. THERE IS NO SALES TO OUTSIDE. No sales means no marketing, no marketing means TVI Express is NOT network marketing or multi-level marketing. That leaves only pyramid scheme.

Second, you pay $250 (+ fees) to join, and you get a 7-day 6-night trip certificate in exchange. Sounds like a good deal, until you read the TVI Express announcement dated June 9, 2010. You need to pay extra $150 in order to redeem the certificate (never had to before, but then, you could not have redeemed the certificate before any way). Can you say: bait and switch?

TVI Express offered a million members these certificates for $250 each, but made them nearly impossible to redeem except for maybe a few thousand in Southeast Asia. Then they announced that everybody can now redeem the stuff, but they need to pay extra $150. That is outright fraud! Yet you still find defenders of TVI Express stating that "TVI Express have always maintained they can charge 'processing fee and taxes'," even though there was no such verbiage on the certificate itself. You only see the additional verbiage when you try to redeem certificate. That is called a "shrink-wrapped contract", and it is ILLEGAL.

Product... that is impossible to use/redeem

Did you know the original offer was for 5-star accommodations? It was on TVI Express website itself. However, what you actually get is a certificate e-mailed to you that somehow TVI Express downgraded the offer to 3-5 stars, not 5-stars only. And there has been NO explanation of this downgrade anywhere.

Furthermore, it is nearly impossible to redeem this offer. Problems have been reported back in 2009, and is ongoing. In an announcement released by TVI Express on February 22, 2010, it stated that a new booking engine will be up by March 1st, 2010. The announcement also stated that only "thousands" have enjoyed such vacations, and 11 properties (all in India) are now open for booking. As there never was a list of the properties available for booking published before, the only logical conclusion is that these 11 properties in India are the ONLY ONES available for booking for your "free" trip!

Third, TVI Express had previously made an announcement that the booking engine was STILL not ready by the announcement date: March 5th, 2010. It pleads for a "few more days". However, this specific announcement had since disappeared from the TVI Express website under announcements.However, these announcements were cloned on various TVI Express distributor websites as sort of a public service. You can find the entry here:

Friday, March 05, 2010

Dear Members,

This is to inform you that our product fulfillment booking engine due to be launched on 1st March 2010 will take a few more days to go live as the integration of inventory for some of our Channel Partners has taken longer than expected...
Cited from http://www.tviexpressreviewblog.com/tvi-express-booking-engine-update/

By removing the announcement that pleads for more time, TVI Express had created the impression that the booking engine had been up since March 1st, 2010, when that was clearly not the case! The earliest it *could* have gone online was March 7th, 2010 (March 5th, plus "a few more days")

As of June 9th, 2010, TVI Express proclaimed that their booking portal is FINALLY live, as of June 9th, 2010. However, they also tacked on a new "feature"... TVI Express is now charging you $150 per booking of this "free" trip, for "taxes and processing". You have to buy extra eVouchers then redeem them to book the trip via their website. In exchange, you get an extra day, and can bring up to 5 people with you. Then they announced that this is only at participating hotels, but never gave a list of which hotels are participating!

As only "thousands" have enjoyed such trips, and the membership count being in the 1 million, it is clear that this argument is, at best, LESS THAN 1% effective! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people have NOT enjoyed their vacation yet. Thus, this is another deception by the company. TVI Express is simply NOT CAPABLE of handling the trips they promised, but they erased their own announcements to further manipulate people. Then they started charging $150 for a "free trip".

Furthermore, in a recent announcement, TVI Express went back on every word they said. Bring extra people? Nope. Two only. Extra day? Nope. Back to 7-day 6-night again. Buy eVoucher to redeem for that extra $150? Nope. Direct deposit into their Indian bank account. Order online through redemption portal? Nope. Call our Indian operation center.

A reputable company would have simply issued another announcement, not deleting the old announcement. TVI Express is NOT behaving like a reputable company, or even a well-run company.

Furthermore, TVI Express, even now, claims by proxy that they "are a valued travel company having corporate tie ups with RCI, Cambay Resorts, Sarovar Hotels, Fave Hotel and a few other hotels and resorts. " (statement allegedly from Tarun Trikha, cited from http://www.kliktviexpress.com/pengumuman ) But who are these companies?

RCI -- Resorts Condominium International, 4000 resorts available in 100 countries. Sounds impressive, but there's no information on how many resorts TVI Express has access to, nor what is this "corporate tie up".A query to rci.com shows that RCI has no such "corporate tie-up" with TVI Express. Another TVI Express lie? Very likely.

Cambay Resorts -- only has hotels in India (5 star resorts)

Sarovar Hotels -- only has hotels in India (4-5 star hotels)

Fave Hotel -- Indonesia only (3-star hotel, rooms starting at $39.95 per night)

Based on TVI Express previous claims with Lufthansa, AVIS, and so on, as "partners", which resulted in a LAWSUIT by the supposedly partners against TVI Express, these "strategic tie ups" are, well, suspicious, and since they are mostly in India or Indonesia, it really means very little. TVI Express promised hotels "across the globe", and they are NOT delivering.

Furthermore, TVI Express had just sent out another notice in July 2010. They have opened up dozens of hotels available for booking... in India and some surrounding countries. Then they went back on their word about extra people and extra night. Only 2 people can go, and no extra night. You also cannot go through the online redemption, but must call their India Business Center to book the trips to these "new" hotels. Furthermore, they will only take direct deposit into TVI Express bank account. Is that "around the globe" like they promised? No!

And finally, if some TVI Express recruiters tries to convince you that this "free trip" is not important, and you are really in the thing for the "long term income", they are trying to divert your attention from the TVI Express failures to even keep their word. If TVI Express cannot even keep their word on this simple free trip, how are you supposed to trust them as a "legitimate business" given all the other lies they have told? And what of the members who claimed this is their "core product"?

And one last item for thought... If it costs another $150 to redeem the certificate, what was the original $250 for? The logical answer is... it is to qualify you for the big payment when you get out of the pyramid. That proves TVI Express is a pyramid scheme.

TVI Express later claimed that if you pick a resort, you get 7-day 6-nights. If you pick a hotel, you get 4 day 3 nights. Does this actually make any sense to you? Since when does resorts cost HALF as much as hotels? And where is the list of hotels and resorts one can choose? Why is this list not public, and had NEVER been public for as long as the company has been in existence, except that list of 11 hotels in India?

Frankly, no reputable company would flip flop on their offer like that. First the trip is free with $250 joining fee, then it cost $150 more to redeem. You get a night, then you don't. You get to bring more people, then you don't. The booking portal was supposed to go live in October 2009, then December 2009, then March 2010, and FINALLY, in June 2010. What sort of idiots are running this place?

TVI Express: the picture pirates

TVI Express stole the border design off another website
TVI Express stole the border design off another website
TVI Express August 2010 convention header
TVI Express August 2010 convention header
Was directly based on Alex Ross picture of "Obamaman". Sleeve, back of hand, shirt crease, and tie are IDENTICAL
Was directly based on Alex Ross picture of "Obamaman". Sleeve, back of hand, shirt crease, and tie are IDENTICAL

TVI Express Lie #6: TVI Express is a reputable company

TVI Express has NOT behaved like a reputable company. Here are some of their symptoms:

* TVI Express does NOT explain what is their product / service. Members are making crazy explanations, like "7-day 6-night trip is their core product", "travel portal (via Travelocity) is their core product", "some other travel deals (?) is their core product", "membership is their core product". Why would a network marketing company not even tell you what is it marketing?

In fact, TVI Express Indonesia president Goernani Goernawan told government panel that TVI Express is NOT MLM, directly contradicting TVI Express website! According to TVI Express rules of conduct, misrepresenting the company is subject to termination. Yet Goernawan is the head of TVI Express in Indonesia, and was highlighted on TVI Express website itself! Who is the joke? TVI Express, Goernami the liar, or both?

* TVI Express does NOT protect its name or domain name. It allows its members to register bazillion different variations of TVI Express domain names. A reputable company would NEVER allow its name to be misused. A reputable company attacks any attempts by its members or other parties to use their name. Amway requires all distributors to state VERY clearly that they are an INDEPENDENT DISTRIBUTOR of Amway products, and does NOT work for Amway. Any attempt to misrepresent will be investigated and membership may be revoked. Yet you can find bazillion people claiming to work for TVI Express. Just look on LinkedIn for yourself.

* TVI Express does NOT protect its intellectual property (the website content and download-able promotional materaisl) even though they state you should NOT copy them in the disclaimer. In its own disclaimer on their website, TVI Express wrote that you shall not copy, publish, distribute... the content on the website and downloadable stuff. Yet you will find TVI Express marketing material copied ALL OVER the Internet, even though there was no provision to allow such spread. In fact, some foreign TVI Express websites are exact clones (made via a "spider / crawler" ) of the main TVI Express site, and maintained the same verbiage. A reputable company would have either wrote in provisions to allow its members to use the marketing material subject to approval, or prohibit the use altogether. TVI Express had done NEITHER.

* TVI Express does NOT check its members for false claims. Claims that directly contradicts company statements are easily found all over the Internet. In fact, one of their Indonesia distributor, Ms. Gornawan, was quoted by reporter saying "It [TVI Express] is not multi-level marketing" In fact, Ms. Gornawan is the owner of PT TVI Express Indonesia! A reputable company would have sent out cease-and-desist letters to members making false claims, or even ejecting them. TVI Express has done NOTHING in public. Instead, TVI Express is allowing them to be head of the class.

* TVI Express stole art from other people without attribution
This is called copyright violation. Their certificate border was stolen off another website. See the visual comparison.

Their August 2010 "convention" used another stolen art, by stealing nothing less than an artful rendering of American president Barack Obama! (see illustration and comparison)

In fact, checking pictures on TVI Express website through TinEye the image search engine shows that almost EVERY picture shown is stolen off stock photo websites, other websites, or even other MLM websites, such as Xango.

* TVI Express does NOT answer any questions about law compliance, nor do they list a compliance officer, yet this is one of the most often asked questions about TVI Express. A reputable MLM company explains very carefully how they comply with various laws regarding pyramid scheme, how they are NOT one, and lists a compliance officer to answer legal questions. Search for Amway, ACN, and other MLM company websites, and you'll see they answer those questions in the FAQs.

In fact, TVI Express does not even acknowledge the fact that they have members arrested or charged with fraud in a dozen countries around the world since 2009, the year they started!

* TVI Express has no code of conduct / code of ethics for its members Every legitimate MLM have one. Some TVI Express members have claimed that TVI Express have one, but it is NOT available to the public. Only in late 2010 did it publish a PDF document (but no text is actually on the website). It still has no "panel" or any record of enforcement against any member that is shown to the public. In fact, many top members are documented to be violating the very rules TVI Express had published.

* TVI Express does NOT list any of its officers or owners, despite being a company with NO reputation at all. A reputable company with little corporate reputation, would list the owners and board members, and their CV/resume/reputation, to impress the people who may want to bet their future with the company. TVI Express lists NOTHING. There are a few names, but no photos, no company positions, nothing. Just "advisory board", but that's just a bunch of senior distributors.

In 2010 Tarun Trikha, who had always represented himself as an "advisory board member", which would make him one of the earliest members according to TVI Express website, admitted to being the CEO and President of TVI Express. This is a clear ethical violation yet today he still appears at company events as leader of TVI Express.

* TVI Express's compensation package fits legal definition of pyramid scheme, endless chain, or Ponzi scheme, as used by European Union, US Federal Trade Commission, US Federal Bureau of Investigation, and US state of California. And those are just the ones I checked. Repeated questions to TVI Express were returned unanswered. A reputable company would have put up a FAQ long time ago.

All this suspicious behavior makes NO SENSE if TVI Express is a legitimate company. Yet all these suspicious behavior makes PERFECT SENSE if TVI Express is a scam.

* Why would TVI Express have an undefined product? Because the only "product" TVI Express wants to promote is itself: the membership. The product is a disguise. By spreading some ill-defined information it simply sets up the scene for its distributors to lie and deny for them.

* Why do they not protect their own reputation or name? Because they don't need one for the long run. They don't expect to survive beyond the 24-36 month mark.There is nothing important or worth protecting there any way. All the pictures are stolen. There is no marketing system.

* Why do TVI Express not check their members for false claims, and discipline them? They need the members to continue to lie for them and defend them. Anything the members say can be denied. Members claiming Warren Buffett invested in TVI Express? They were called "liars" by other members, who also claimed that TVI Express cannot be held responsible for bad conduct of its members. Yet some of the top members had been clearly documented to be liars.

* Why do TVI Express not answer questions about law compliance? TVI Express is letting the members, who only have limited information, to defend its reputation in public. Anything a member say can be denied as "misunderstandings", so technically TVI Express did not lie. The "members" did. Just as the part about "Buffett invested in TVI Express" before.

* Why would TVI Express have no "code of ethics"? Simple... it doesn't need one. It never had been a legitimate business, and making one up would limit its members in what they can say in order to recruit. In a pyramid scheme, ethics are not important, finding more recruits is. Even today, the code was never enforced on any one that can be documented.

* Why would TVI Express hide identities of its officers and employees and owners? NONE of the alleged corporate heads have ever been seen or heard from. There was no photo. No ID. Not even age, or ANY personal information, or even how many years in business. Very likely, the corporate heads do not even exist, and the whole thing is controlled by one puppet master in the background.

Speculation? Yes. Makes sense? You will have to decide for yourself.

Cease and desist order from state of Georgia against TVI Express, from a TVI Express distributor
Cease and desist order from state of Georgia against TVI Express, from a TVI Express distributor

TVI Express Lie #7: TVI Express is a legal opportunity

TVI Express itself claims "with TVI Express, you have a life-changing opportunity to build a hassle-free, legitimate business all across the globe." (cited from http://www.tviexpress.com/ opportunity.php) But is it really? Not at all.

TVI Express is not even legal in India, its home country

Back in 2009, Sikkim (India) police filed an FIR (preliminary investigative report) after hundreds reported being defrauded by TVI Express. TVI Express called in a lawyer, refunded about 6000 participants without admission of wrongdoing, then abandoned that province. That bought them two years.

In July 2011, India police raided TVI Express office in Bangalore, India after many victims complained that they were defrauded by TVI Express's promise of cheap vacations. Two were arrested as the instigators.


TVI Express is NOT legal in the US or Canada

According to a top MLM attorney, who had been head of Amway's legal division for 9 years, and had consulted for many more years, TVI Express cannot be legal in US and Canada. He specified the 3 criteria for a MLM to be legal in US and Canada, and TVI Express are not compliant with them. So what are the three criteria?

A: Real product, and right to bring in more participants (i.e. recruit)
B: Real retailing, from members to outside consumers
C: Emphasize retailing over recruiting, and only pay bonus on SALES of people you recruit, not merely by recruiting

TVI Express does NOT comply with B and C. It is only partially compliant with A, since TVI Express never was quite clear just WHAT is their product or service.

While no US or Canadian resident have been prosecuted for being a TVI Express member, that is because the dollar amounts in the US are not that significant. most US and Canadian members are smart enough to jump ship when they realized the whole thing smells like a scam.

And before you say FTC won't come after TVI Express, look up YTBI. While the FTC did not go after YTBI, two state Attorneys General did. The result is about the same.

UPDATE: A TVI Express member revealed that on September 8, 2010 TVI Express members in Atlanta Georgia have been served with a "cease and desist" order from the State Attorney of Georgia to stop operation immediately in State of Georgia, USA. There are rumors that a similar order had been issued in Hawaii but has not been confirmed. Furthermore TVI Express also violated Federal level laws (FTC laws) and thus is subject to Federal prosecution as well. This is from TVI Express member, not a critic.

UPDATE2: Scan of the order is available to the right. See for yourself.

TVI Express is ILLEGAL IN CHINA

At least three have been convicted in sentenced in China to jail terms, and three more have their ill-gotten gains forfeited, $200000 Yuan's worth. These are the automatic translations, so they are not the best, but they will do.

Shanxi ordered confiscation of property of THREE TVI Express members, fined $200000 RMB
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daynews.com.cn%2Fscdb%2Flb%2F921863.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en

Two convicted in Chan-An for TVI Express fraud aimed at retirees, sentenced to 6 months and 18 months in jail
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://bxtz.newssc.org/system/2010/05/21/012732111.shtml

Dongtou public security arrested TVI Express recruiter for defrauding public, sentenced to jail
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://dt.66wz.com/Article/mssd/2009-10/28/10_38_58_330.html

Yet there are still unscrupulous TVI Express supporters out there denying these people were arrested and convicted. Or they dismiss the arrests as actions of "oppressive communist regime". They ignore the fact that China, being a communist nation, is actually harder and harsher on economic crimes than capitalistic societies. They treat it as a "crime against society" and "disturbance of social and economic order".


TVI Express is ordered to cease and desist in Australia as a pyramid scheme

The Australian consumer agency ACCC obtained a court injunction against three TVI Express members from recruiting for TVI Express. The group were planning to hold conventions across Australia and New Zealand promoting TVI Express and sign up new members. The Australian agency received help from its counterpart in UK, the Office of Fair Trading, with its investigations.

Furthermore, It has been recently revealed that Team TVI Oz, the three Australian TVI Express members accused of running pyramid scheme, had emptied their bank account on May 28th, AFTER the court injunction froze their accounts (on May 15th). ACCC is seeking contempt of court charges in addition to the fraud charges, and the court has set the hearing for August 30th, 2010. Some TVI Express supporters have spread rumors that the charges have been dropped. This is NOT TRUE. CHARGES HAVE NOT BEEN DROPPED, and ADDITIONAL CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED again TVI Express distributors in Australia.


TVI Express is declared illegal in multiple African countries

TVI Express was declared illegal pyramid scheme AND violated banking regulations in Namibia. It was also declared a pyramid scheme in South Africa, and is under investigation in Swaziland.


TVI Express is under media scrutiny in other countries

Hungary has started investigation of of TVI Express as a pyramid scheme.

TVI Express was denounced as a pyramid scheme in Spain and Germany by local news.

Newspaper have reported TVI Express as a suspected pyramid scheme in Georgia (the country, with thousands of victims.

India, province of Sikkim, had gone after TVI Express and forced refund to over 6000 members. Its tourist board called TVI Express "fake tourism organization".

Vietnamese and Indonesian news websites have reported on the explosion of TVI Express in their respective countries, and how they are NOT compliant with local law by registering with government as either 'seller of travel' or 'direct selling organization'.

Editorial newspaper in Botswana denounced TVI Express as a pyramid scheme.

Newspaper in Tajikstan reported that a local TVI Express member recruited over 2000 people into the pyramid scheme, and local prosecutors are investigating.

Members in South Africa were arrested for running TVI Express and defrauding thousands.

For news coverage about TVI Express see my other hub: "Newspaper Articles Your TVI Express Upline will not dare show you"

Pinnocchio after a lie...
Pinnocchio after a lie...

Lies told by TVI Express members

TVI Express members have propagated various un-truths, misunderstandings, and outright wrong information, often by copying them from each other, as well as copying information provided by the company, such as the five lies we have debunked above.By perpetuating the deception, and adding their own, the TVI Express members are guilty of contribution to the scam.

Furthermore, TVI Express members have used logical fallacies to make bad arguments for the legitimacy of TVI Express.

False Equivalency

Here is one that compares TVI Express to AAA, the auto club:

"My investigation showed that there is definitely a product (that TVI Express sells)- a travel service. In this regard, TVI Express is very similar to AAA. In AAA, you have to be a member in order to take advantage of their services." (ref 14)

So what is wrong with comparing TVI Express to AAA? It's a logical fallacy, known as "weak analogy".

a) AAA members are NOT paid for recruiting, or required to recruit. TVI Express members are REQUIRED to recruit, as per their FAQ, and recruiting qualifies them for payment.

b) The services offered by TVI Express is a rebadged version of Travelocity. Travelocity is free to use for everyone. Thus, the service they offer is worth exactly ZERO. AAA offers service with real benefits.

By comparing TVI Express to a known legitimate organization, such as AAA, the author hopes to imply that TVI Express is also legitimate, as they share SOME characteristics, such as "membership", while ignoring glaring differences.

The same article, in fact, committed three other logical fallacies, thus trying to deceive you into believing TVI Express is legitimate. But that is for another article.

Outright Lies

Here's an excerpt from a fellow hub-er:

"TVI Express would be a scam if they didn't have a real product, but if you've done your research you would know that TVI Express has a product and it's travel.

TVI Express would be a scam if they used cold hard cash to sign you up. However they only accept cash in exchange for an e voucher which is like a TVI Express money.

TVI Express would be a scam if they didn't actually pay out 10K and promised that to everyone who joined but as you are reading this people are cashing out 10K over and over again." (ref 15)

So what's wrong? Let us take a closer look at each sentence.

Hypothesis 1: TVI Express would be a scam if they didn't have a real product, but if you've done your research you would know that TVI Express has a product and it's travel.

Okay, why would the company have a real product, namely travel, but in its own FAQ it states flatout that you do not need to sell, yet still be able to enjoy the "board payout" of $10000, merely by recruiting people? The product is irrelevant. This is one of the 5 lies we debunked earlier. By presenting travel as a red herring, the author tries to convince you TVI Express is legitimate. It is a logical fallacy.

Hypothesis 2: TVI Express would be a scam if they used cold hard cash to sign you up. However they only accept cash in exchange for an e voucher which is like a TVI Express money.

The problem with this hypothesis is it directly contradicts what TVI Express says on their own website, under their own FAQ

"We currently accept payments via Credit Cards, Liberty Reserve, Solid Trust Pay and eWallet."
-- http://www.tviexpress.com/faq.php#17

TVI Express does NOT accept cash at all. Furthermore, the hypothesis itself, has no reasoning behind it. Using cash is NOT necessarily a sign of a scam. This hypothesis is completely false and thus worthless.

Hypothesis 3: TVI Express would be a scam if they didn't actually pay out 10K and promised that to everyone who joined but as you are reading this people are cashing out 10K over and over again.

This is known as the "If it pays it must be legit" excuse. Except pyramid and Ponzi schemes, can pay for a while, and Bernie Madoff have paid for a long time. The evidence does not support the hypothesis at all.

Do not think

When a TVI Express distributor asks you to ignore all criticism, and only believe him, something is very wrong with the system. Even in most religions, you are not asked to "check your brain at the door". Your shoes, maybe, but your brain? Yet this is exactly what some TVI Express distributors are asking prospective members to do. Here is one from Indonesia (http://tviexpressjakarta.wordpress.com/faqs/) , responding to people who cited webpages that raised questions about TVI Express:

You spend time and energy with worry, anxiety that really hurt. While the Member TVI Express with extraordinary spirit who is building their business empire. Immediately stop analyzing, stop worrying, stop suspicious. Immediately take part in this business "while" very good momentum.

In other words, "Shut up and stop thinking", the wrong way to approach ANY business. In fact, it is a sign of a cult... unquestioned obedience to the leader / cause.

These advice, published by TVI Express members, filled with logical fallacies, bad research (or no research at all), perpetuating falsehoods, rumors, and innuendos, are trying to convince you that he should be your sponsor into TVI Express. And you will find most articles not published just once, but several times. Perhaps a few times here on Hubpages (each rewritten), a few times on his/her own website or blog, a few times as an article on one of those free article archives like ezinearticles.com, articlealley.com, and so on...They have spammed the Internet with their falsehoods.

Furthermore, unscrupulous TVI Express members have then pirated each other, as well as TIV Express material, to make even MORE blog posts and whatnot, with outdated information, just to prop up the Alexa rankings.

Yet other TVI Express members charge me and other TVI Express critics, who presented all evidence for you to see, as a part of conspiracy, either as rival MLM out to "get" TVI Express, or as some sort of global "conspiracy of the rich" to keep the poor... poor, and to encourage prospective members to disengage their brain for a business opportunity.

Whether they are doing this knowing the truth or not does not matter. They are helping TVI Express perpetuating the lies, and that makes them part of the scam.

See some VISUAL evidence of what TVI Express members have MANUFACTURED to "prove" legitimacy of TVI Express.

Ref 14 -- cited from http://www.betternetworker.com/articles/view/mlm-news/companies/is-tvi-express-a-valid-business

Ref 15 -- cited from http://hubpages.com/hub/TVI-Express-Scam-Is-TVI-Express-a-HUGE-Scam-To-Steal-Peoples-Money

CONCLUSION: TVI EXPRESS = SCAM

TVI Express has conducted a masterful campaign of deception and obfuscation. TENS OF THOUSANDS of TVI Express members have had uneasy feelings about all the lies and disreputable behavior previously mentioned, and have sought answers, but were ignored or ridiculed, and left in disgust. One of the acknowledged leaders of TVI Express in the US, Kelly Williams, stated few months ago:

"... The sad tale behind it all is the fact they [TVI Express] did it all in the name of goodwill. I believe TVI has put so many wonderful people simply trying to survive and help their families in today’s tight and turbulent economy and help others along the way in jeopardy of damaging or even destroying their hard earned credibility.

It is simply an evil thing they [TVI Express] have done!" (ref 16)

When such a leader quits TVI Express in disgust, it is a sign of problem within TVI Express.

Now, even more senior members in TVI Express are quiting... because they found out that TVI Express is indeed a scam. On September 7, 2010, Pat Dejour, one of the highest TVI Express ranking members in North America, sent an e-mail to all his downlines: he had been served with a "cease and desist" letter from State Attorney of Georgia: Stop operating or we'll sue you big time.

International governments have started noticing the scam known as TVI Express. China had swept for pyramid schemes last year, and had convicted and sentenced at least THREE TVI Express members for running a pyramid scheme (ref 17) (ref 18). Hungary has started investigation of of TVI Express as a pyramid scheme. Australia got a court injunction to stop "Team TVI Oz" from promoting TVI Express in Australia, WITH the help of UK government. Tajikstan have initiated investigation into a local TVI Express recruiter with over 2000 downlines after people complained they are not getting their trips for $250. And now news have surfaced in State of Georgia (USA) that TVI Express had also been served with a cease and desist order, and other states and soon Federal level investigation will follow. (ref 19). Bank of Namibia declared TVI Express and a similar operation "illegal" in a press release, urge all citizens to stop participating at once.

When all these factors are combined with the lies told by TVI Express itself, and how TVI Express allowed members to lie, and the disreputable behaviors, lead to one inescapable conclusion: TVI Express is a scam of international proportions.

Ref 16 -- http://www.mlmhelpdesk.com/2009/10/05/tvi-express-leader-kelly-williams-reaches-out-to-mlm-help-desk/#ecwid:category=0&entryPage=Y&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal

Ref 17 -- http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/03/tvi-express-distributors-convicted-of.html

Ref 18 -- http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/05/another-tvi-express-china-member.html

Ref 19-- http://www.tviexpressreviewblog.com/tvi-has-been-shut-down-in-georgia/

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179 comments

Alex 6 years ago

Theres is so much controversy over this company right now i feel bad for those who are in it


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Would my face make my argument more or less convincing? I doubt it.


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lesterd2009 6 years ago from Beaches Of Florida

Well I have to say this is a well written article, not only do you express your opinion but you provide facts supporting it, knew about TVI when it first started and did not join because there was no original info regarding such products, services and founders, I know one of the top leaders in TVI and she recently quit and took her entire downline with her because according to her there were "suspicious activities by the company" anyone knows that a MLM company that has no actual service or product and rewards members simply for bringing others into the company is simply illegal, and I think in the next 6 months the domain name and site will be gone..

Thanks For A great Article

Lester Diaz


Prabin Prakesh 6 years ago

but i can see the alexa ranking of that company is very higher - Ranked. 6090. how a scam company can grow these much?


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@ Lester -- Thanks for the comment. It is amazing what some of the shills for the company will do to hold on to their dreams.

@Prabin Prakesh -- simple, the Alexa rankings are propped up by all the various clone websites put up by the members, plus all the "marketing coaches" trying to make money off them. Together, that means a lot of people searching for and linking to TVI Express. If you look at Alexa and Google Analytics for TVI Express, you'll find that majority of the website traffic is now coming from OUT of the US, mostly from Indonesia, Vietnam and so on, where the scam is now reaching a fever pitch, after running its course in China, India, and so on, and have been slapped by local authorities. Also note, TVI Express has had little or no success in more educated areas, such as Australia, US, and Western Europe. It had moderate to good success only in LESS EDUCATED areas, such as China, India, Hungary, Georgia (the country), and now, Southeast Asian countries such as Indonesia, Vietnam, and so on. it is a suspicious pattern as well.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Lester -- forgot to mention, I never said I was a member. And I never was.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Latest update: query to RCI shows that they don't even know who "TVI Express" is, much less have any "corporate tie up" with them. Sounds like a "third-party affiliation" again, "borrowing" credibility from big-names with virtually no affiliation!


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Roffi Grandiosa 6 years ago from Bandung, Indonesia

fell bad for my friend who wants me to join TVI mlm's


Cella 6 years ago

Thank you for this article. You save many people. May God bless you.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Latest update: TVI Express announced that the certificate you got for the 7-day 6-night trip is worthless. You need to pay additional $150 USD to redeem the trip. Essentially admits that the $250 joining fee is to feed the pyramid scheme. Members aghast at the revelation.


zorlac 6 years ago

How could you say that this is a scam whereas you never became a member and no proof of evidence? show us some proof.


zorlac 6 years ago

I dont care who own's the company so long as I am earning and getting all the compensations. Just join and experience the good earnings you have never experience in your whole life.


zorlac 6 years ago

For sure you are belong to another mlm that tries to destroy the TVI's reputation. I assure you will never win and TVI will keep growing and become a household name. More power to TVI Express!


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Zorlac -- you sound like just all the other TVI Express shills who refuse the accept the truth. All of the evidence presented are right in front of you, but you ignore them all. Your mind is already closed. So it's clear these comments will not reach you. This is mainly aimed at the folks who read these comments.

As how can I criticize something that I am not a part of, Zorlac's objection is rather hilarious. Film critics are not member of Hollywood production companies. Judges and Police are not a part of the criminal underworld.

Besides, all the information I had dug up about TVI Express means I probably know far more about TVI Express than most members.

As for the accusation I belong to a rival MLM... Ha-ha-ha. I have no need for MLM's. I own three companies and help run a fourth one, none of which are even related to MLMs.

Zorlac's accusations are rather amusing, as they are right out of "Ten Secrets of Effective Liars", #9 to be specific. Those of you who actually read these comments, I encourage you to read my other hub:

http://hubpages.com/money/TVI-Express-and-10-secre...

And look up #9. It is as if they go according to a script.


nick 6 years ago

interesting article right here, those who have ears, listen, besides the benefits of this so called TVi thing. be careful of benefits that comes so easily, they disappear easy too, so if you are member you are not only a fool but you are part of global fools.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@nick -- yes, but as you can see in the comments, the "followers" of TVI Express are fanatical about their "cause". They have been brainwashed into thinking it's them (and TVI Express) against the world. It is even pitiful, in a certain way.


Prasetyo Madyo 6 years ago

Alexa ranking of TVI is now down to 6820, I always give true information about the TVI in the group on facebook, so many candidates who did not join in the TVI. As you know Indonesia is the country with the largest number of TVI members.

This is 2 Class Action for TVI Express

http://www.petitiononline.com/tviscam/

http://sites.google.com/site/tviclassaction/


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

The problem is you have to do this in EUROPE and India to have any chance of succeeding. TVI Express have a "legal" HQ in Cyprus, which means they have to be sued under EU law (but they'll lose there too, EU has laws against pyramid schemes)

Let a veteran pro-MLM attorney explain to you why TVI Express is 100% illegal in the US and Canada:

http://hubpages.com/money/Top-MLM-Attorney-Explain...


scam 6 years ago

Nice hub! Yeah, you save many people. May God bless you.


maverick 6 years ago

kschang.....a person who is afraid to show his face........you said you own 3 companies and help run a fourth.....which companies are these...i wonder if you have the guts to tell us.....wonder how many lies there are in your companies.... you just seem to be a frustated person who has failed miserably in his attempt at doing business in a mlm company...good luck to you anyways....


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Maverick -- So you're another TVI Express shill out to insult me instead of providing some evidence to prove me wrong. Ad hominem attacks are so lame, and only demonstrate your own lack of evidence / proof, and thus, your own lack of credibility. If you want some credibility, provide some evidence to prove me wrong. Otherwise, you're just another shill.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express's Alexa rating continues to plummet, now at 7400's. People who had website about TVI Express are abandoning them, or changing them to something else. Most recent blog posts about TVI Express are plagiarized from the "free content" sites, posting on blogs that had nothing to do with income, and sprinkled with spam keywords.

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/07/more-evidence-...

In further news... TVI Express banks alongside... Osama Bin Laden?

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/07/tvi-express-ba...


maverick 6 years ago

what a loser you are ks chang. in today's time when most people are finding it diffcult to make ends meet because they are being paid so poorly by people 'WHO OWN COMPANIES' ( BY THE WAY YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ME THE NAME OF YOUR COMPANIES IN YOUR REPLY). Anyway in these times here comes a company called TVI who clearly states what you have to do and how you would be compensated, helpss people earn money and helps them to start living life instead of just going through the process of living. helps them earn more money so that they can give their family and kids a better lifestyle. SO THE PEOPLE WHO OWN COMPANIES OBVIOUSLY HATE TVI CAUSE FOR THEM ONLT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EARN MONEY. HOW DARE A COMMON MAN EARN MONEY, CAUSE IF THAT HAPPENS, THEN WHO WILL WORK FOR THESE COMPANY OWNERS?????? KS CHANG, WAKE UP AND OPEN YOUR EYES. NOT THE ONES ON YOUR FACE BUT THE EYES OF YOUR HEART. TRY AND DISTRIBUTE LOVE AND HARMAONY INSTEAD OF HATRED AND JEALOUSY TOWARDS ANYTHING....... BUT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH YOU IS A SHILL RIGHT.....REMEMBER NOTHING AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS PERFECT.... BY THE WAY ...YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY DISSAPPOINTED..... I AINT EVEN A MEMBER OF TVI..... BUT I KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS AND EVER SINCE HE JOINED TVI I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM AND HIS FAMILY HAPPIER...AND I AM HAPPY FOR THEM.... IF TVI IS MAKING THE LIVES OF THE COMMON MAN THEN TVI IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN IN TODAY'S WORLD..... I HOPE YOU ALSO FIND YOUR HAPPINESS SOON MAN......


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Maverick -- I don't bother telling you the names of my companies because it's NOT relevant to the issue whether TVI Express is a scam or not. It's not about me. It's about TVI Express. Why do you insist on bringing up something not relevant?

I call you a shill because all you do is talk, but you don't debate. Debate is when you present YOUR SIDE of the story. You haven't presented anything except raising some irrelevant issues, and insult me. I don't care if you disagree with me. In fact, I pity your "blind faith" in TVI Express.

Again, if you have some evidence to prove me wrong, SHOW ME AND THE REST OF THE WORLD. Don't just talk, talk, talk. Talk is cheap. I show evidence to everyone to check. All you do is insult. Try some mouthwash.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

More TVI Express news... TeamTVIOz in Australia is in EVEN MORE trouble, as ACCC alleged that they tried to move funds that had previously been frozen by court injunction. They are seeking contempt of court charges against TeamTVIOz members!

http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/352804/alleged_on...


Indra 6 years ago

Hey.. you said that South east asia country Less Educated??


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

On the average, yes, but their rate of education is better than many "first world" countries. So they are catching up and on the way to surpass in a few decades. Happy? :)


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express Alexa ratings continue to plummet. If you read the past 3 month average, they are down to 8000's (they were 7000's just 2 weeks ago). If you look at last month alone, they're at 10000's.

Go to alexa.com and search for TVIexpress.com


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express stole President Barack Obama's picture "Obamaman" by Alex Ross for their August convention. See picture proof above.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

ABC2 in Baltimore, Maryland says TVI Express is extremely shady, BBB says beware!

http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/money/consumer/scam_al...


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Tianshi from 118.137.117.246 -- you got the wrong guy. I'd approve your comment but I don't want to embarrass you. I am NOT Indonesian, and I've never been anywhere NEAR Indonesia. Good luck finding your man.


Vie 6 years ago

Nice article...I'll send it to my friends who already joined TVI and hope they can open their mind for the real facts of TVI...

~V~


R Reynolds 6 years ago

Where do we go to join a class action against TVI in Austraia?


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

As far as I know, there is no class action suit in Australia... yet. You should contact your local ACCC office, and see if they have some sort of a registry for 'victims'.

And please say "TVI Express". There are other companies called "TVI" out there, and they are legit.


defamation compensation 6 years ago

On the surface this does seem to be fit for defamation case. But needs proper evaluation.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Depends on what may "this" be, defcom... Care to clarify your comment? If it's not TVI Express related, I reserve the right to delete your comment for lack of relevance.

EDIT: Why are you posting from India (202.164.55.75), and cites an Irish website? RDNS says you're near Ludhiana, India. Shouldn't you be citing an INDIAN website on defamation?


The great TVI Expresss 6 years ago

TVI Express now ranked 11th in Global MLM industry.. check mlmranking.com


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Sanju, or "The great TVI Express"... (since you did post an identical message" in the other hub as Sanju...)

I think you need your eyes checked. I just went to MLMRanking.com and it says TVI Express ranks #59 out of 639 businesses they track (as of 16-AUG-2010)

"TVI Express's position in our index ranks them at 59 out of 659 home businesses actively tracked in our database.

It is NOT 11th.

And it's tracked PURELY ON PUBLIC INTEREST (i.e. Internet traffic and search terms). It in no way proves that TVI Express is not a scam.

http://www.mlmrankings.com/tvi%20express/

Why is it that TVI Express supporters can't even cite FACTS PROPERLY? Is it something that was inherited or taught?


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express Alexa rating dipped into 9000's, flirts with 10000, in only 4 weeks (it was in 8000's then).

TVI Express was so embarrassed of their QuantCast rating, they hid the the results. If you go see the results, it says "hidden by owner".

TVI Express Indonesia member told followers to stop doubt, stop worry, and ignore criticism... just like a cult leader.

TVI Express Indonesia leader told reporter "[TVI Express] is NOT MLM", lied on camera.


AJSD 6 years ago

We have people who are much brainier than Governments worldwide who let TVI Express run their business to ruin their peoples lives, atleast KChang seems like should have been awarded the job rather than people in ACCC Australia or any such bodies worldwide. Get a Life KChang, hope you are not hurt by TVI Express success which may have doomed your business somehow, and you still can't get out of the trauma, hence keep on criticising TVI. Not that I don't believe what you have to say. but the time n space you are taking on the whole Google world criticising TVI is suspicious in its own self.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

So what exactly is your point, AJSD? That any criticism of a scam is suspicious? That its critics need to get a life?

I welcome your skepticism, since it is LACK of skepticism that allowed the TVI Express scam to have gone on for so long. However, your skepticism regarding my suspected motivation is... how should I say this... misplaced. One does not need more motivation than "justice" to criticize a scam, and bloggers in China have been denouncing the scam since June 2009, and there are plenty of criticism leveled against TVI Express from well-known MLM experts, TV stations, newspapers and so on all across the world, while the ONLY love came from members and some marketing coaches who want to sell their "training" to TVI Express members.

As always, study the evidence, and make up your own mind. My motivation does NOT affect the validity of my evidence.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express Alexa rating dropped into 10000 range as of 7-SEP-2010. People are getting tired of the scam.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/tviexpress.com


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Latest update:

TVI Express "member scroller" confirmed to be fake. Contains randomly ordered 500 entries.

TVI Express apparently received a "cease and desist" order from state attorney of state of Georgia, USA to stop or face prosecution. As TVI Express is a foreign entity, this was received by a local TVI Express rep. This is reported by a TVI Express member website and has not been confirmed by Georgia state officials. Unlike Australia, TVI Express had not retained any legal help in the US and apparently has no plan to, despite being warned well ahead of time by American members. They were also told that TVI Express is apparently in violation of FEDERAL LAWS and any one continue to promote TVI Express in the US face both state and Federal prosecution.


Prasetyo Madyo 6 years ago

TVI is Dead in the USA

http://www.facebook.com/TVINorthAmerica#!/topic.php?uid=237738870790&topic=55868


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Beat you by a couple hours. :D


Lany 6 years ago

Wow Chang... Many thanks for the info...

I am Indonesian. And you are right... All my relatives already the TVI Express members (except me, I am not believed in any of MLM or product who claims could make you rich instantly). Is hardly to say if they are not educated people (they all got their university degree). And sure they are not bad people or liars, but they just want to make a fast money (and they indeed got USD10000) plus they believed with this company completely (They claim this is Warren Buffett's company). Even I am not agree with MLM, but I am happy with they're success.

When I read your article, I am very sad to agree that the TVI Ex is "strongly seems as" an international scam. I already copy your link and share to them.

Once again.. thanks so much for your deep evaluation.

BR,

Lany


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Lany -- The problem with a pseudo-MLM scam, such as TVI Express, is they borrow heavily from the people-to-people aspect of MLM to promote itself, and nothing else. It has NO PRODUCT (at least none their website will admit to), but when you've been invited to a seminar, where there must be shills who help whip up the frenzy to join, you will get hooked if you don't have very good self-discipline. And after you join, the groups hold "team meetings" to keep you hooked, and keep reminding you of $$$.

And do they address legitimate problems raised by article such as mine? Absolutely not. When confronted with this article, this Indonesia TVI Express leader replied on his website:

http://tviexpressjakarta.wordpress.com/faqs/

Read #17. Didn't he say that you should IGNORE all criticism and just join any way? They don't even bother to lie any more. They are the Borg (if you watch Star Trek: The Next Generation).

And here's what your country actually says about TVI Express: do not join

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t...


Sam 6 years ago

Thank u for the info. Tvi was just introduced in bangladesh along with few other mlm schemes. More are coming! Since its new in out country, we are still not aware of it. People are flooding in these things. I will stop my friends from entering, just like i stopped :D


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Sam -- just tell them it is illegal in the US, China, and soon, Australia, should stop them quite quickly.

TVI Express seem to only prosper in areas with a lot of poor people.


Rajen Das 6 years ago

Hello Karl Cardoza, I see your article.I join TVI EXPRESS on 9th november 2009 and I get two times $10,000.So, TVI EXPRESS is a great opportunities for me and my downline.Thank you.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

*sigh* Name is KC, not Karl. And you are recycling the "I get paid so it must be legit" fake argument. Try again.


Mehboob Saeed 6 years ago

Bro I dont know who you are and what you're problem is.. you show us that tvi lied, but you haven't showed us anyone who lost their money, so your evidence doesn't quit back you up with your argument. i have a cousin, who wasn't able to study properly because his dad didn't have money. my uncle helped him study. he borrowed money from his friend and opened three accounts in tvi. he did what tvi required him to do, which is to recruit people.(which might be illegal in many places as a business, and thats why has been stopped) Now due to his success and tvi's intoduced revolving matrix system he is a happy man, so is his family. His dad borrows money from him and he has been able to fulfill his dreams. he already made $20000 and more and is able to spend and he did spend already. i am not a member bro but im not lieing. you shouldn't say things like this about a company who is helping people to make money really easily. be happy instead and thank tvi. i am sure that you will not be able to find me any person who says that all his money has been taken away by tvi.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Mehboob Saeed -- So what exactly is your intent for your comment? Are you saying that even if TVI Expres lied there is no victim? That somehow it has changed your cousin's life so it is doing more good than bad?

Tell that to hundreds of people in your cousin's downline that really has no chance to get their own $10000. They paid $250 so your cousin can have his $10000. They believe your cousin. I hope they don't tear him to pieces when they found out that they have been lied to. Any of them family and friends? Are things so bad in Bangledesh that people must resort to this sort of rationalization to justify their crimes?

Every one of the news reports I highlighted list hundreds of victims, perhaps not by name, but numbers are certainly there. Just because nobody screamed doesn't mean there wasn't a victim, and plenty of people have screamed, and now governments around the world are taking action.

You may want to read some of these news reports. Have a good day:

http://hubpages.com/money/News-Articles-Your-TVI-E...


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@aemin -- English please.


STRAIGHTALK 6 years ago

I have no sides to this but I would like to place my 2 cents to it..

1.) Why haven't I seen a check or back statement which indicates that even members are being paid...

2.) Can TVI members see that if all those 250 paying members don't make 10,000 it's robbing those folks from their money..

I was approached today be an TVI member in our group offering TVI website as a gold mine.. All I ask her for was show me a check / bank statement and the room got quite..

She tried to explain their payment set-up & I told her show me proof it work by bank statement or check and she left the meeting.. I am so certain folks aren't even getting paid!

Now I have a question if I told you that the corner store served some guy bad food would You go their to eat, disregarding any thing I said being truth or not?

I most positively wouldn't! How can I if I already can taste the bad food right.. anyways You can only show the horse to the lake You can't make it drink though..

Nice article will use it to inform my group about them and so they can learn how to sniff out scams thanks great work too.. I hate scams, spammer, fakers!

PS. power to You kschang from STRAIGHTALK


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@StraightTalk -- even if they *do* get paid that doesn't actually prove they are not a spam. Most will only point at their "eWallet" as proof, but eWallet is not real money, just a number somewhere in the Internet.

You are a skeptic, and those people saw that and decided you are not worth the effort to convince. :)


aby 6 years ago

just like any other mlm or concept selling, they all(tvi members) will dance and dream of making big money till the music is playing, but the time will surely comehemes and soon when they will realize the truth, that all such pyramid schemes are meant to benefit the promoters and making happy only some top lvl members whose 'success' is then used to grab more and more members downline, till the music stops and the company vanishes in thin air leaving the huge mass of people/members in the downline high and dry, pls don't get into this greed which will only be a trap later.



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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

MLM-The-Truth is a true anti-MLM site. They are of the opinion that ALL MLM are bad, but they do raise some very good points about the overall business model.

Just to make it clear, TVI Express is a true scam, NOT a MLM at all. It is a pseudo-MLM scam.

MLM can be done properly and ethically AND legally. I am not ready to dismiss the entire business model just yet. I am out to bust TVI Express as a scam, not the entire MLM industry.


siva  6 years ago

Proof which u had asked .. i had gone through the website : All commissions are instantly transferred to your secure eWallet, which is protected by our double check secure system. Funds can be withdrawn to your bank accounts, or can be received in forms of other ecurrencies from your backoffice. i am not member . But i do networking .. wat u suggest as Off to Kick the company ha ..


Johannes 6 years ago

Everyone is talking and most of those that talk have been with TVI Express, Earned the money, Travel the world and now they sound like old age people who enjoy talking none stop.

If TVI Express is a SCAM as everyone is saying how can our government don't do anything about it. You cannot be charged until found guilty and that is TVI Express.

People here are talking as TVI Express was a Terrorist Gang hiding somewhere in the world and can't be located. If this is serious US, UK and Canada should have advices their other countries in the world just like what they did with SkyBiz in the nighties. They have the power to arrest the owners of Travel Venture International and make them stop defrauding people.

BUT SO FAR I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG DOING WITH TVI EXPRESS. SO I AM GOING TO ADVICE YOU GUYS TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT UNTIL TVI EXPRESS IF FOUND GUILTY OF DEFRAUDING PEOPLE.


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@siva -- If your "verification" means reading stuff right off the TVI Express website, and that is good enough for you, then go right ahead. Heck, you even wrote "our double check secure system", proving that you did NO verification at all other than repeating the company line. Do you work for TVI Express? Did you not care that TVI Express issued 6000 refunds in Sikkim back in march 2010 and quit the region? (Yes, I can tell you're from India)

@Johannes -- oh, clearly you haven't been keeping up with news, or even BOTHERED TO READ THIS HUB! In it I already cited news reports that TVI Express was already illegal in China (members arrested and sent to prison), Australia (under court injunction), United States (ordered cease & desist), Namibia (public warning by Bank of Namibia), is investigated in India (6000 refunds issued in Sikkim while admitting to nothing), Kazahkstan (defrauded locals), Republic of Georgia (former general unethically recruited armed forces members), Spain, Germany, Hungary, and more. I guess you have to see YOUR country arrest some top members for you to see the danger signs? Is Bank of Nambia official warning not enough for you? Nor warning from Consumer Watchdog of Botswana?

Sorry, your rant only proves you did not study the issues at all. The signs you demand have ALREADY BEEN provided. What excuses do you have now?


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kschang 6 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Viju -- your comment was denied as they are just spam. This comment space is for discussing TVI Express, not for you to promote your company.

For real tips on how to pick MLMs, see

http://hubpages.com/money/9-signs-your-MLM-Opportu...

http://hubpages.com/business/15-Network-Marketing-...

https://toughnickel.com/self-employment/Network-Ma...

http://hubpages.com/business/How-to-Research-a-Net...

http://hubpages.com/politics/How-an-Internet-Ponzi...


ddg 5 years ago

hallo we life in a scam world even bank, share & many campony also is a scam


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

But which scam works around the world in 6 out of 7 continents? For that, TVI Express is definitely a new "category leader" in scams.


Rahman 5 years ago

Hey bro,investing there i thaught that this is the only business which may last for long time but reading ur site i got that this is the Real Scam.but problem is most of the Bangladeshis are in it.by the way,want to b cleared, is tviexpress 100% indian company/scam?being a student of economics what a great mistake ive done in my life.pls save this glove from destructions of it specialy my country Bangladesh.May allah bless u.


John 5 years ago

Hey rahman u did no mistake.try ur best to go on with this business.if this business goes on&on in ur country then ull find urself loser in the cause of givin up networkin.the speech of ur downline, theyl go nowhere.besides their help u wont b able 2 go to level 4.so the way is ul help them theyl help u.i can tel u one thing that this is the only business in the glove which can teach us fraternity.about hub, this is media which can make zero 2 hero again hero 2 zero.and thats the thing what they do for earning easily.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Rahman -- notice that John's speech does not give you any facts that are relevant? He wants you to learn "fraternity", but how does that help you? And notice he did not question ANY of the facts presented in this hub. He only insinuated that "media" can float or sink something. How is that relevant to the scam known as TVI Express? And can scam be "redeemed"? Think about that. Consider who is telling you the facts, and who just want you to go on recruiting for a scam.


Rahman 5 years ago

Thanks bro,here is another business like that in the basis of pyramid scheme.the name of company is 'Luxury venture corporation'.is that scam too?looking forword 2 ur prompt reply.loving u as a great indicator.pls go on.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

I do not know about "Luxury Venture". I would suggest you scroll up slightly and see my other hubs about how to study and research any MLM opportunity, in one of the comments where I replied to "Viju".


NINGMAS 5 years ago

Infact... I have flied USD.10.000 in 7 weeks... and waiting for 2nd fly... Why does it makes a doubt ?

Regards/Ningmas

Indonesia


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Rohit 5 years ago

Mr.kschang, can you name any MLM/Network Marketing company on the planet which is not referred as a scam?

You are not even a part of what you are writing, neither am I. You are simply ASSUMING things, making your own assumptions / opinions / etc.

People like you, I dont know why waste their time & energy writing all this non-sense & eating huge server spaces for nothing, TOTAL WASTE of resources.

People are getting bored of this scam!!! ROFL.

People are just getting lazy coz in Network marketing you dont get a physical Office with an AC. This is hard work buddy, not everyone can do it.

Like Actors, Models & Sportsman get paid to endorse Products, Network marketing simply gives a common man that opportunity, to endorse & earn. If people can earn thru that, why do you have a problem with it (u called it haram! - Dude you are just trying to defend what you wrote.)

Am part of another NM company & had earned a fortune out of it, try it you wont regret.

People like Warren buffet, Richard Branson, Bill Clinton, etc. are not idiots to promote NM companies or own them, THEY JUST KNOW THE POWER OF IT. CHEERS...


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Rohit -- Whether other MLM companies are a scam or not is NOT relevant to the question whether TVI Express is a scam.

I am NOT assuming things. I cited PLENTY of facts as the the reason I came to the conclusion.

As for whether my efforts are a waste of time, that's up to me to decide. After all, it is your opinion.

As for whether MLM is hard work, again, it is not relevant. You can't even prove that TVI Express is MLM. Thus, ANY comparison to a MLM is irrelevant.

Why don't you PROVE that TVI Express is a MLM first? Or are you simply ASSUMING it?


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Rohit -- clearly you don't read Indonesian... I gave the link where the Islamic Council on Aceh< indonesia declared TVI Express to be haram. It was not my assumption or opinion. It is a FACT.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Rohit -- Warren Buffet has exactly ONE MLM company: Pampered Chef. It is less than 1% of his portfolio. Richard Branson spun off Virgin Cosmetics in 2009. Clearly it was NOT a good investment. Bill Clinton thanked Kiva.com for the microloans it made to third-world countries.

Those people are NOT praising the MLM industry at all.


TVI Scam- Indonesia 5 years ago

After I read your statement.. I immediately asked my upline to transfer my money back... As a new member. I was asked to sign up for as much as three names which is 760 dollar.. I did not do an adequate research before and I was thinking plainly because the person who offered the TVI was my old long time no-see-friend. After I read your hub, I immediately send the person a sms to ask my money back. Is it their best method to persuade people to sign up with three so-called names, where the two will support the first one so that it can make way faster to the express board.. this is very clever but no morale at all..thanks for your post Chang... I'm from indonesia and it is still booming here.. but do not know until when... I hope it will soon explode into pieces..


brilliant kid 5 years ago

MLM is an industry, came with so many names like, network marketing, affiliate marketing, micro franchising etc... but it is still a kind of a business. Just like all other business, it is for profit and to make profit it needs REAL PRODUCTS. PRODUCTS can be goods or services or both. MLM companies must make their profits solely thru their products and YES they can use bonuses as part of their compensation plan to encourage more distributors to distribute their products.

It all boils down to the products. No valid form of product/s but a promise of earning MAY constitute a scam.

If TVI doesn't have such product/s therefore it MAY be a scam.

It is totally out of the question if it makes money for SOME of its members. Making money as a whole does not validated it that it is not a scam. Being part of a company that is doing scam is WRONG and BAD. You can make money selling illegal drugs which also WRONG and BAD.

So if anyone part of TVI that is making money, having a great life out of it MAY no have difference with druglords for they are making money out of a WRONG and BAD manner.

That is IF TVI is really a scam. And it is for the nation's laws to decide not me.

MLM is still one of the best form of businesses out there.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

And that's the whole point of the analysis, BK... TVI Express has NO product except its membership, which makes it a "cycler" i.e. "pyramid scheme".

A lot of people seem confused as to the intent of this article. This article is only about TVI Express, A SCAM THAT PRETENDS TO BE MLM, but have ZERO products of significance. It is NOT denigrating MLM in any way.

I would disagree with your statement about MLM being "one of best forms of business out there", but that is for another hub and another time.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

To this day, "director" Goernani Goenawan has not applied SIUP-L "MLM business license" for PT TVI Express Indonesia. She claims it is NOT NEEDED because she claims TVI Express is merely a travel reseller, not MLM.

( http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&...//www.apli.or.id/website/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D141:tvi-express-melenggang-tanpa-siup-l%26catid%3D1:artikel&ei=9XH5TcPdMqrUiAKbyeGABQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGoenawan%2BAPLI%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1GPCK_enUS321US322%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D739%26prmd%3Divns )

This is in direct contrast to words on TVIexpress.com where it clearly stated that "network marketing, or MLM, is business model we have chosen from the very start."

Thus, Goernani Goenawan is a liar. According to "Ethical Marketing" document from TVI Express, such violations are verboten (forbidden) and subject the member to termination.

Instead, Goernani Goenawan is now referred to as "Vice President of TVI Express" on tviexpress.com

You really think this company cares about ethics, when it promotes a noted LIAR?


ace 5 years ago

nice one bro i am a member of an mlm company but not in that kind of company i am product user only and it is good try to invest in other mlm that benefit you most not by financial but for your body


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express HQ in Bangalore India raided by police, 2 arrested for fraud.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/...


howareyou 5 years ago

so that is true if tvi is scam, last time some1 offered me to join the affiliate, over than $300 to join there...very high price


yesindo 5 years ago

Honestly, I do not really know the TVI Express situation in other countries.

However, TVI Express in Indonesia is booming and even got International Good Company award from Coordinating Minister of People Welfare & also from Minister of Culture & Tourism of Republic Indonesia. This event published in an Indonesian monthly magazine "Global Invest" 7th edition. You should buy it so you can probably waste another time to make good insult of it.

It is also mentioned in the magazine that TVI Express listed legally and already have license from Indonesian Government.

This is a proof that your comment about legal issue in Indonesia do not updated or maybe you have not done your researches well enough. This make me think twice about your other comments. Are they all true or maybe just 10% true? Can we call kschang a scam too?.. by making wrong comment regarding TVI Express legal issue in Indonesia ...


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@YesIndo -- your information, is sadly, months out of date.

The Award that you spoke of? It's Indonesia award ONLY, and companies only need to pay to win. There was no investigation or judgement. Companies receive the announcement via fax, which says to accept this award pay us 3 to 8 million rupiahs and you win. it's so scam, your local newspaper already printed an article how it's bogus:

http://batam.tribunnews.com/2011/02/05/bos-hotel-a...

This would be the same award ceremony, in February 2011, that TVI Express claimed to have "won" at.

As for whether BKPM declared it illegal, that came out in August 2011.

http://www.tempointeraktif.com/hg/bisnis/2011/08/0...

Unless you can show me an article that somehow BKPM had revised their decision, as it says specifically that the SIUP issued in Jakarta to PT TVI Express Indonesia had been revoked, it is YOU who is not using latest information.


Gladius 5 years ago

Finally, TVI Express's Pacific Royale Airways is set to fly soon. Congratulations!!!!

FLY WITH US.... you may now "LIKE" and share this official Fan page of Pacific Royal Airways..

Go to this link and LIKE , then SHARE... LET's GO!!!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pacific-Royale-Airwa...


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- and you can PROVE this is actually started by personnel from the airline itself? Don't be ridiculous. Anybody can start anything on Facebook.


Ann Verde 5 years ago

Liars go to hell! The truth will set them free. "I Am TVI" as I observed it really changes a lot of people's lives. The Mission/Vision is attained, created millionaires and touches billion lives across the globe.... GO GO GO..... TVIExpress!!!!!!!!


Gladius 5 years ago

This has started with Tarun Trika himself you maybe should follow him too on his twitter account. And more products to come soon. You'll be surprised.


Gladius 5 years ago

Hey Chang, Seems to be you are getting outdated. Don't just keep doing on cheap discovering hijacked blogs. I guess you have to do a research on this. Better be quick! So you can write more on your blogs.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Ann -- why don't you PROVE these are lies first? Then we shall see who goes to hell.

@Gladius -- except there is NO provable link that Tarun Trikha is involved with Pacific Royale (other than his own announcement). I don't cite random twitter announcements, or I'll end up announcing something like "Steve Jobs is dead". Ha-ha-ha.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- and you will note that he didn't actually say he owns it. He simply want you to submit a tagline for it. You all simply assumed the rest. The fact that the airline will NOT be flying in 2011 (latest business plan rejected by transportation ministry as of 8-SEP-2011) should tell you he's just floating another "trial balloon" to keep you feeding money to him until he quits Indonesia altogether.


KschangScam 5 years ago

hahahah!! now Chang you call morons those who believe Pacific Royale using the social media network to prove it's legit. You maybe are. Pacific royale has nothing to prove using the social network to call themselves legit. What makes it legit? It's because it's happening now and soon to slap your jealous and insecured face when it starts to operate.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius... yes, I know it's you. So you can't prove it's legit or you'd have presented it already! The airline is NOT flying in 2011 as their business plan was rejected by Indonesia Ministry of Transportation! And you STILL have no proof that Tarun Trikha owns it! Ha-ha-ha!


KschangScam 5 years ago

Chang, read it again. Is that how you interpret by using the social network media would mean the PR or any other company is the way to show their legitimacy? Desperate are you denying about the growth of TVI Express? lest we should have been together when we met Trikah face to face when he announced the matters with PR. Bad thing you were not there and you were just hiding yourself behind the internet.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- Why do you insist on something without proof? Produce the proof (not provided by TVI Express or Tarun Trikha, or Pacific Royale website). The Airline was announced, but has NO provable link to TT or TVI. Come on, you'd have produced and cited some by now. You're grasping at straws.


KschangScam 5 years ago

Did I insist? Look and read my first post carefully. You are the one who is over reacting at the end.


Abu Sayyaf 5 years ago

Dear TVIites,

New beginnings bring fresh excitement. They justify all the hard work put in, all the long hours all the collaborative efforts. New beginnings salute the spirit of people like you who have made it possible. As TVI Express grows across the world, we are aware of one very important fact…together we can achieve the seemingly impossible and set new benchmarks for others to aspire to.

Vivacious, warm, enterprising and wonderful, the rainbow nation of South Africa has taught us to revel in the power of diverse influences and mould it into one powerful inspiring momentum of progress.

We are delighted to share with you the news that our Johannesburg office ribbon-cutting ceremony is scheduled for 6th October, 2011. This is an important step in bringing our South African members closer to the worldwide TVI Express family.

Inspired by our motto of "Touching Lives Globally", the ribbon cutting ceremony on 6 Oct, 2011 will be followed by a charity clause during which many South African members will adopt a child from a rural community with the commitment to lovingly ensure the well being and upbringing of the child. A small gesture to remind all of us of our duty to the greater good of the society.

Lunch and evening launch event will follow. The launch event will feature motivational speakers, high-profile networkers and artists from across the world, a perfect platform for you to network, share and learn from people who are riding the crest of success. Opportunities like this are not to be missed, start your visa process, now!

We will be in touch with details of the launch in our subsequent announcements.

Simpler, Smarter!

The new office makes everything more accessible, easy and simple. We have also made some changes to the compensation plan to make receiving and redeeming your commissions simpler than before.

Your Queries Answered At Your Office

From 6th Oct, 2011, you can come in with prior appointment for the resolution of your queries. The official working hours are 08h30 – 17h00, (UTC +2:00) Harare, Pretoria. Our support team is equipped to assist in any of the eleven official languages: English, Afrikaans, IsiZulu, IsiXhosa, Tshivenda, Xitsonga, IsiNdebele, IsiSwati, Sepedi, Setswana, Sesotho.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius / Scam -- You ASSUMED that the Facebook account is actually from the airline, but you can't prove it. Perhaps you should read my REPLY more carefully, or buy new glasses.

@Abu Sayyaf, or is that you again, Gladius, posting under another bogus name? -- You are hilarious, man. Reserve Bank of South Africa, South African Police, and various agencies started cracking down on TVI Express since DECEMBER 2010. Here's real news.

http://www.greytown.co.za/gazette.html

http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/2011/08/07/worldw...

You are a parrot who don't check the reality of your news. You post bull****.


KschangScam 5 years ago

Let's continue the posted newsletter...

Your Queries Answered At Your Office

From 6th Oct, 2011, you can come in with prior appointment for the resolution of your queries. The official working hours are 08h30 – 17h00, (UTC +2:00) Harare, Pretoria. Our support team is equipped to assist in any of the eleven official languages: English, Afrikaans, IsiZulu, IsiXhosa, Tshivenda, Xitsonga, IsiNdebele, IsiSwati, Sepedi, Setswana, Sesotho.

A Range of Payment Options

In-order to purchase e-vouchers, booking vouchers or booking funds, you can use any of the following modes to make payments:

Cash deposit

Electronic Fund Transfer

Debit cards and/or Credit card

Bank Account Details are given below for your record:

Standard Bank of South Africa

Account Number: 422253707

Branch: Jan Smuts Avenue

Code: 004205

First National Bank

Account Number: 62312310741

Branch: Rosebank

Code: 253305


Gladius 5 years ago

Chang, you see it now. The news are from the TVI Express itself. TVI Express is just now officially starting in South Africa. What happened to the tracking and cracking you said since 2010. What now? It's now showing that you are the ones who is lying. Now it's with South Africa and that is real becoming. You bull***?????? Hahahaha!! How desperate. Hmmm...Kschang name is either sounds too bogus too...Tarun Trikah, TVI Express CEO, way so real with a picture of himself all over the internet. Kschang? a Scam, a person who is hiding. You lose.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@gladius / whoever -- if you had BOTHERED to checked the official South African news links I gave earlier, you'll see that TVI Express reps have ALREADY BEEN ARRESTED and TVI Express WAS ALREADY DECLARED ILLEGAL by South African Reserve Bank AND local police. Thus, this only proves that TVI Express posts BULL****. Now that you posted it AGAIN, you just confirmed you are a bull****er. Thank you.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

How about some REAL news for a change:

South African Reserve Bank vows to investigate fraud known as TVI Express

http://www.thenewage.co.za/6408-1008-53-Money_is_t...

TVI Express scam goes "Belly Up"

http://www.thenewage.co.za/6866-1007-53-Scam_goes_...

SARB investigates Ponzi Scheme TVI Express

http://www.thenewage.co.za/14436-1010-53-SARB_inve...

Locals lost thousands of Rands in TVI Express Scam, 3 perps arrested

http://www.observer.co.za/stories/locals-lose-thou...


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Did Tarun Trikha ever mention his own TVI Express Headquarters was raided by Indian police for fraud? And two of his employees arrested (though he wasn't)?

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bangalore/...

Read it. It says TVI Express, and the address given matches up exactly against address given for TVI Express India office in Bangalore.

TVI Express publish stupid announcements. If you actually believe everything they publish, you have lost at least 20 IQ points.


KschangScam 5 years ago

Join TVI Express South Africa Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/groups/261990140484292/


KschangScam 5 years ago

People would lost 50 IQ points if they believe to the person who is bogus that keeps on hiding his ass saying words against TVI Express. Show yourself kschang and people will have basis to believe in you. You are nothing but a sourgraping person over the success of TVI. You're just a copy paste master. Goodluck to your campaign.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

You still have ZERO EVIDENCE to disprove ANYTHING I posted. You are absolutely hilarious, man. All you can do thus far is insult me.

You really think a Facebook page created by a TVI Express member actually counts for ANYTHING when half a dozen newspapers in South Africa say TVI Express is scam and people have been arrested?

You're arguing in a circle, dude. The only thing you have to support your side was released by TVI Express itself, and they are liars, and I have the newspaper articles to prove it.

Please feel free to insult me some more. I'll gladly repost EVERYTHING you posted, and use it as proof that TVI Express supporters are stupid, as you just did.


KschangScam 5 years ago

Show yourself Chang if you're really serious with your campaign. You're just cowardly hiding in that name. People there in TVI are not afraid revealing their identity. You're fighting for this yet you are soooooo coward.........coward.....


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- Back for more so soon? Your infamy will now live on forever in Blogspace, Abu Sayyaf / Gladius.

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2011/09/another-tvi-ex...

All these comments have been logged and blogged. If the best you can do to post Facebook profiles to "prove" your side, TVI Express is doomed. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- please post as many of your identities and other TVI members as you wish. They will be supplied to Filipino TV stations and police as proof of your fraudulent activities. You are not afraid, right?


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- your further posting of TVI Express spam will not be tolerated. You have added nothing to the discussion. Post something NOT from TVI Express if you want to be believed.

What happened to "not hiding"?


KschangScam 5 years ago

Why you didn't post it there...afraid are you about the Visa card and ATM's TVI is launching and you say again that it wouldn't be materialized?

Add this to your blog....You are tagged as a coward....common.....


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- TVI Express had been promising those ATM cards since they started... in 2009. They STILL haven't launched it almost 3 years later. If you still trust what they print you are a fool, just as you print that TVI Express **** above. Link to it, sure. But YOU are the one who's doing COPY AND PASTE.


KschangScam 5 years ago

Chang, where are those words from you that never it will happen in the Philippines to have their office. See it, it's there Chang. It's been built..Now you are proven to be lying. Secondly, I can slap in your face in few months time the ATM/Visa card or I can have you eat those cards, Oh I mean your words so forth.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- further insults will not be tolerated either. Haven't you made a fool of yourself already? As for whether I'm a liar or not, you seem to have a poor command of English. I may be proven wrong on a few things on what TVI Express promises and delivers, but the overall nature of the TVI Express scam is undeniable. The real liar is TVI Express, and you're defending it by repeating its lies and unproven statements as if they are true. Stop being a parrot.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- furthermore, I have NOT stated that there will not be a TVI Express office in the Philippines. Therefore, you can now add hallucination to your list of personal afflictions. Having those ATM cards THREE YEARS after they've been promised makes it a 3-year late fulfillment... IF they come true. As you have not seen them or used them, you have nothing except faith. Is TVI Express your religion now?


KschangScam 5 years ago

My Poor command of English is undeniable, that's true. Do you speak my language Chang? Let me have everything in my own language and you can google translate it later but wait, you might have difficulty in it.

Let me just say this, a late fulfillment would still be a fulfillment. Now, you may like it or not, more promises are to be fulfilled, more development and progress are yet to come. I'll update you. See you!


KschangScam 5 years ago

By the way,

How long have you been following TVI? 3 years? 2? Dedicated work research on the internet for TVI? You seems to be getting huge traffic hits in your blogs now, that must be big income. That would be great.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gladius -- it doesn't matter how many promises they fulfill... they are still a scam, and thus far, you have yet to show me ANYTHING that puts that in doubt.

But then, I guess you need the Filipino government to actually outlaw it before you'll see reason. Indonesian government just did, China did so back in 2009, and US did so in 2010.

And no, these revelations don't see much audience, but you're surely helping. :D


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@alamin -- I am friendly unless people started calling me liar and "must be employed by enemy" or some such nonsense.

I have never declared that TVI Express will not open office in Bangladesh. My comment was toward the South African office. As local government already declared TVI Express illegal in December of 2010, and arrests were made in May 2011, and investigation was expanded to nationwide, opening a TVI Express office in South Africa is clearly impossible, and announcement of such shows TVI Express is clearly completely out of touch with reality. Which leads me to distrust any subsequent announcement by TVI Express.

Furthermore, just because SOME people have enjoyed their vacation through TVI Express does NOT prove that TVI Express is legal. I never claimed that TVI Express did not provide any benefits. However, math shows that it is impossible for TVI Express to offer such vacations for $250 USD without additional revenue... or by NOT redeeming all the trips. It is mathematically impossible. Thus, using that to prove the company's legitimate is also a no-go.

The "extra charge" thing was announced by TVI Express itself... cost $150 additional to redeem, and eWallet fund cannot be used. If you wish to have a point-for-point debate I'll gladly oblige you, but I need to warn you, TVI Express website have changed and much of the offending language had been erased to be even MORE vague than before, and no explanation on the changes had been forthcoming. The FAQ page had been completely rewritten and no longer matches the compensation package. It even refers to a non-existing "ethics" page.

But the fundamental nature of TVI Express does not change: you pay to join, and you recruit people and are paid by doing that. That makes TVI Express a pyramid scheme, which is illegal, even in Bangladesh. When you throw in all the other fraudulent behavior, makes TVI Express an international scam.


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Alamin -- full reply is at the following URL:

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2011/09/bangladeshi-tv...


md. alamin 5 years ago

dear friend one thing i forgot to remember u that tvi didn't said that warren buffet has owned this company .. they only said that an expert watch .. please go through the presentation deeply..

again as u r not a member u don't have the members backoffice where the list of hotels are included ..


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Alamin -- don't want to use your newly registered Hubpages ID any more?

TVI Express sure used that misquote to gave the impression that it was owned by Warren Buffett. It may not have stated so, but its intention to mislead was quite clear. And I have ten quotes around the world to prove many TVI Express members did make that mistake. Here's a blog entry I wrote earlier where I documented such TVI Express members claiming so. So don't claim I invented this lie. I did not.

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2010/12/rudy-phan-cont...

Furthermore, TVI Express gave you the wrong information any way. It was plagiarized from a book by Randy Gage written published in 2006. In fact, Expert Watch page is mostly plagiarized from 3 pages of that book. And I'll prove it:

http://kschang.blogspot.com/2011/03/dissecting-exp...

As for whether you can see a list of hotels or not, that's a shrinkwrapped contract. They promise 90000+ hotels, but only gave you a list (much smaller, no doubt) when you joined! That by itself, is enough to cause lawsuits!

http://www.informationweek.com/news/197003052

Or put it in other words, WHY is TVI Express hiding that list so it is viewable by members only?

Thus far, every one of your refutations turned out to be false. Got any more?


laughter is the best medicine 5 years ago

whenever you finish paying your mortgage you pay extra for a lot of fees. so is the real estate business a scam too? since they never tell that thing from the start :D


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@laughter -- Actually I don't have a mortgage, and my car's paid for. So, what is the relevance to TVI Express scam?


stranger 5 years ago

do i join or not tvi express?please Guide who really earned from tvi


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kschang 5 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Stranger -- was the word "scam" not understood by you?

CONCLUSION: TVI EXPRESS = SCAM stated it MANY times.


Alex 5 years ago

Great article Kschang! I am from the Philippines and some of my collegues convinced me to join TVI, but I told them that i will check first about the company thru the net and luckily I stumbled over this article... I pretty convinced man, I agree with you, mainly because of the evedince you have presented (links)

Many Thanks!!!! ;)


Liz 5 years ago

Your articles are really commendable and very much appreciated. My cousin invited me to join TVI but I declined saying I'd look into it first. Got stung before by other MLM companies and indeed, you are right. Those that get in earlier do get paid so that more and more people will be enticed to join as they will give testimonies in order for others to believe that this is indeed a legit company. If you're motivated by greed then you won't mind if others will or will not get paid. But if you care then you will be open to the fact that this indeed is a scam. Some members just don't want to admit it because it's relatively easy money.


Henry 5 years ago

Hey,

I'm a TVI express member since a year or so. I was never able to use my certificate to book a hotel, only hotels in India can be booked. Being in North America, I wish I could book a closer hotel ;-)

When I tried to book a resort, I was told that I have to send a picture of an official document for verification purpose. I send an official document and was rejected because it was not « clear ».

My certificate was extended for an additionnal month, but I was not able to use it since the hotel booking is not working yet...

I tried and still try to believe that I'll be able to use the promised certificate, but I have to admit that I doubt that I'll be able to use it for my next vacation :)

Thanks for the great job kschang !


GULMAS 4 years ago

Dear Mr. Chang, I appreciate your efforts to bring in the real face of TVI into the world. But so many things are missed out from this 1) 3 people are arrested in Tajikistan last two weeks time and the judgement came out of three, two of them got 12 years jail terms and one lady tvi leader got 9 years jail term. 2) Chinese leaders who were arrested before now going legally against the company. 3) In Kazakistan some top leaders are facing legal issues because the company is not giving bank payout and the booking funds. 4) south African top leader is going to sue the owner and ceo of the company for cheating the poor South African people and making money 2.6 billion rands. 4) Now the company is going to come out with another ponzy scheme called www.neosurveyasia.com where the management and owner of the company is same. This company is going to launch in China and Indonesia and again TVI in disguise of another moneygame, going to cheat the world with a funny system which has already proved as illegal in different parts of the world and especially india. BEWARE OF THIS... 5) TVI has started its operation again in india in a different name to avoid taking responsibilities of the pending payouts and products of millions of dollars. 6) Another funny part of the TVI site is each languages, different owners or patrons shown. All of a sudden one leader from Indonesia who was there in the advisory board as a co-opted member has become the Patron of TVI last week. At the same time when you sellect English language, you can find the Patron as a European Guy.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Gulmas -- if you can link to some of these news I'll gladly add them to my "News Articles About TVI Express Your Upline would never show you" hub.


Anonymous 4 years ago

Just visited the NEOAsia site..obviously a scam with those "clip art" officer pictures, and a pyramid scheme that "rewards" you with worthless points. I found this blog and started researching TVI late last week because my wife's family in Asia fell for this scam and even put up their property as collateral to pay for several memberships. They asked us about it and when they described it, it was obviously a scam but they had already joined. I decided to research it though and was shocked about what I found... The thing about companies like this is that they take advantage of people who are really poor and willing to try anything to improve their lives. I saw video of some of the recruiting meetings and it's really sad how gullible these people are.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

NEOAsia site is a scam. The three pictures on "out leadership" are all stock photos (proven by TinEye image search engine) and thus the company cannot be legitimate.

However, folks, I have to ask you to keep the stuff on topic about TVI Express Scam. I would recommend you visit my friend at BehindMLM.com and see if he will "review" that scam for you and you can comment on it.


robert arranz 4 years ago

Thank God for this expose'...I could have been coned.

Wel......WE, ALL OWE IT TO OURSELVES....to exercise

DUE DILIGENCE!.....Let the Buyer BEWARE!


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

TVI Express Alexa rating dips into 12000 range. It seems to be popular in Russia.


Katutubo 4 years ago

i feel bad for Filipinos who fall for this crap really... everyone's dream is to better oneself with a life of convenience and economic stability however, greed blinds us all

Thank you for sharing this well analyzed article and I still don't get why people fall into the same trap over and over again...

thank you for this wonderful nugget of information


wanttoknow 4 years ago

hey kschang thats a great report u wrote..i want to know something. I live in egypt and tvi started to become very famous , my friend told me he joined and went to to resort in hurghada for 8 days 7 night (with 250$ + 150$ ) him and his 8 friends stayed their with this money full board.! iwant to join to go to such a trip in sharm elsheikh or hurghada in egypt very nice place best place for beaches and parties ! wut do u think ?


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@wanttoknow -- if you are not paying for them, go right ahead. Just beware that in other countries there have been reports of people arriving at resorts and hotels and found either no reservation at all, or unpaid reservations, so bring your wallet... in case you run into problems. And taking a trip paid by TVI Express doesn't prove it's halal overall, only that its trips are real (but it's the recruiting / income that's haram).


wanttoknow 4 years ago

@kschang, i see thnx a lot for your advice :) and sure i will bring my wallet in case of something wrong happened !...

so u mean that if i paid and got the trip then its haram ?idont think so ! because am not gonna recruit anybody for them i just want to use the trip offer...and wut do u mean in ur 1st line "if ur not paying for them" ?ofcourse am paying the (250+150)


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@wanttoknow -- If you don't recruit, then you are not expecting income from the "business". Thus you did not cheat or defraud any one.

As always, consult your imam or Ulama Council for detailed guidance.


central asian 4 years ago

TVI becoming very popular in Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan FYI.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@central asian -- Thanks for the update. I guess news of TVI Express fraud in Tajikistan, practically next door, is not enough to convince people, which is just, too bad.

http://news.tj/en/news/nearly-2000-residents-sughd...


indo 4 years ago

Hi KS Chang,

I think TVI is old news already....The government in Indonesia has already banned and even the owner is not doing this anymore because she was detained by the police and had to pay very hig price to get herself out. But one thing that amazes me is she immediately moved from one scam to another. She is now doing Neo Survey Asia. Maybe you can help us write about Neo Survey Asia before more people become victims of the same people running different scams. I see a lot of pros and cons about TVI and it is sad that sometimes people just dont care even though you know you are earning money from other's sorrow because everyone wants a good life and with the economy slumming all aver the world, people need hope and a place where they can get money fast. I think anyone in the right mind would cough up USD 290 for a return of USD 10k,


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

NeoSurvey is just a clone of SpeakAsia, currently under investigation in India with its accounts frozen and two of its principals on the run out of India.


TheRealChang 4 years ago

If you truly want to help people, how can we invest in your businesses? What are they? I’ve read the news that TVI has planes, what about that? Their memberships are growing worldwide. I don’t know who’s the scam now, is it maybe just you?

I don’t need to argue with you, you know what your truly color is anyway. Thanks for the infos you provided, it just doesn’t seem to stop people from joining TVI.


TheRealChang 4 years ago

Watch the YouTube videos, many have joined TVI! Chaaang chaaang chaaang chaaang! If you have better MLM's or your businesses to offer, how can we join then? Sir, help us to prosper so we won't join TVI, allow us to know your businesses, so we can join them!


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@TheRealChang -- interesting handle, but first, I just comment on scams. I don't start competitors to scams. No point in competing with scams, is there?

TVI Express does NOT own airlines or have airplanes. There are some rumors (never proven or confirmed) that Tarun Trikha, head of TVI Express scam, may be linked to this new Indonesia Airline. ONE newspaper reported it, naming ONE source, never confirmed.

TVI membership growing proves nothing. The countries outlawing TVI Express is also growing. Australia banned TVI Express last year, along with Indonesia. Australian judge formally declaring TVI Express to be a pyramid scheme. Indonesia revoked TVI Express business license. So perhaps you are just not reading the right information.

Plenty of people stopped joining TVI. It just doesn't stop the likes of you, who don't care. Just think about that when police come after you, like they did in Indonesia and South Africa for TVI Express members. (Yes, I have links to that)

Youtube Videos are old and reporting the wrong facts.

If I do offer a business opportunity you'll just claim I'm out promoting this rival company. If I don't you'll probably claim I work for a rival any way. I am not about to feed delusions.

There is no shortcut to wealth. Any one promising you one wants your money. I just give you free info to help you avoid scams. The rest is up to you.


lubog 4 years ago

WERE YOU A MEMBER OF TVI? WHAT PROOF DO YOU HAVE? COZ IM A TVI MEMBER AND SO FAR IT DIDN'T CAUSE ME TROUBLE. I WAS ABLE TO AVAIL MY FREE HOTEL ACCOMMODATION AND I AM EARNING. THERE IS NO SCAM. AS A MEMBER I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@lubog -- No, I was not a member. Proof is all the newspaper articles reporting TVI Express as a scam all around the world, linked above already.

Your personal experience is not reliable, as you are only presented one PART of the truth, and lead to believe it is the whole truth.

Did you know they were convicted in Australia as pyramid scheme? Did they tell you that?

Did you know TVI Members were arrested in Indonesia, South Africa, China, India, and more for fraud? Did they tell you that? Did you care?

Did you know South Africa government hired forensic accounting firm to chase down all the money that went to TVI Express (and a couple other scams)? Did they tell you that?

Did you know TVI Express was kicked out of the US back in 2010? When one state issued a "cease and desist" order? Did they tell you that?

Did you ever consider WHY would they NOT tell you all these things?


Nathaniel 4 years ago

Kschang you're such a loser for me you are nothing in this world, why don't you show your face coz you are the one that hiding, you have no credibility at all coz you are a fucking paid blogger, check it out our miscellaneous so you can see that tvi does not tolerating people who misrepresent our company and besides how can you argue with a positive result that happens to their members.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Nathaniel -- wow, such infantile insult, using all SAME rhetoric I've already DESTROYED before. But in case you are too lazy to read above, here you go.

"you are such a loser" -- personal opinion, "ad hominem attack", irrelevant as it does NOT prove that TVI Express is not a scam.

"why don't you show your face" -- that's a question, and it, again, is irrelevant to whether TVI Express is a scam or not. You are supposed to prove I am wrong, not ask irrelevant questions.

"you have no credibility" -- that is your opinion, and again, irrelevant, as you have yet to disprove a single word I wrote.

"you are just a paid blogger" -- random accusation, completely baseless, and again, completely irrelevant to whether TVI Express is a scam.

"tvi does not tolerate people who misrepresent [tvi]" -- you can't read the news. TVI Express itself, not the people who run it, was declared a scam in Australia. This has NOTHING to do with individuals misrepresenting TVI Express. Same with Lesotho, South Africa, USA, Indonesia, and more.

Tell me, is Gunarni Goenawan, VP of TVI Express, one of these 'bad people who misrepresented TVI Express'? If not, why was TVI Express Indonesia shut down in 2011? How did they lose their business license?

"how can you argue with a positive result" -- simple, pyramid scheme and ponzi scheme pays SOME members.

All this rhetoric, and most of it irrelevant, with one logical fallacy at the end.

Your arguments are really lame, Nathaniel (if that's really your name). Try again.


cape iris 4 years ago

Good day sir,

Regarding TVI, i would not agree/nor disagree with your writings though you've some facts about TVI to be a scam as stated.

I've tried to verify everything that are written in here, the other day I was able to read an archive from the Jakarta Post regarding PACIFIC ROYALE AIRWAYS it reads:

Founded November 2011

Commenced operations April 2012 (planned)

Hubs Juanda International Airport Hang Nadim Airport

Soekarno-Hatta International Airport

Fleet size 2 (+8 on order)

Destinations Surabaya SUB, Batam BTH, Kerinci KRC, Jambi DJB, Bandung BDO,

Semarang SRG, PangkalanBun PKN, Padang PDG, Pekanbaru PKU

Headquarters

Key people Samudra Sukardi (CEO) Gunarni Gunawan (51 percent of shares) Tarun Trikha (49 percent of shares)[1]

Pacific Royale Airways has won approval to fly 81 routes,

of which 70 percent will be domestic routes.

The airline will use its Fokker-50s as feeders

to link Surabaya, Batam City,

Banyuwangi City, Madiun, Pekanbaru,

the Natuna Islands

and Jambi City.

Its Airbus jets will be used for international routes,

such as Jakarta-Bombay City,

Surabaya-Singapore,

Surabaya-Hong Kong, Bandung-Singapore

and Bandung-Kuala Lumpur.[1]

According to the Jakarta Post, this is a welcome development for Indonesian travelers.

References

^ a b c The Jakarta Post (26 January 2012).

"Pacific Royal to spread its wings in March".

^ "Airline passengers to increase by 15%" Jakarta Post, 12 November 2011. Retrieved 2011-12-02.

^ a b "November 6, 2011 - IndonesiaToday:

Pacific Royale Set to Fly Early Next Year".

^ "Ethiopian Airlines sells Fokker 50s, seeks Q400s".

DefenceWeb.co.za, 18 January 2012. Retrieved 2012-01-21.

Tarun Trikha went to the Philippines last May 11, 2012 for the

South Korean TVI bootcamp in Tagaytay City. Why not the country that has a arrest warrant for him ask the InterPol for his arrest?

TVI also has its office located in Makati City, with SEC registration, Bureau of Internal Revenue "Tax Registration Certificate" and other pertinent papers for their legal operations.

I believe in the freedom of the press as long as it is supported by facts and evidences, because I lived in a democratic country, and also you I believed. Keep up the good works, and may you can convince many not to join this TVI because this is a scam according to you.

Good Luck and more power!


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Cape Iris -- as far as I know, South Africa has NOT put Tarun Trikha on a wanted list, nor had any OTHER country that I know of.

Jakarta Post did not show where did the information about the owner(s) of Pacific Royale Airways come from. Thus, without further confirmation, such as government listing, I cannot treat it as "confirmed".

The only other ownership info was an interview article where "Gunarni Soworodan" (not Goenawan) and "I forgot who the other guy is."

http://www.tribunnews.com/2011/01/31/samudera-suka...

It is all the TVI Express members in Indonesia who claim it must be Tarun Trikha and their own "mother Goernani Goenawan". (note: different spelling of first name as well) I am more skeptical.

The SEC registration certificate specifically says TVI may NOT issue memberships. Did you purchase a membership? (Yes, I've read the certificate)

Also, having a certificate does not mean it is OPERATING legally. You can break speed limits and traffic laws while you hold a valid driver's license. Having a license does not imply you are completely legal.

I welcome your feedback. If you can find more info please let me know and i'll post them, if they can be confirmed through other reliable citings.


cape iris 4 years ago

Thank you "kschang". All i want is a fair and balance reporting in fairness to TVI members who really tried to defend the company's reputation.

Any pros and cons document that can be gathered in the future, will supply it to you. I believed that your page is not intended to TVI alone, but to other MLMs you believe a scam. This is a good sign of press freedom. So I urged TVE members to submit informations/evidences to disprove kschang's.

Thank you


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

I write stuff about things far beyond scams. I only ask you NOT to copy TVI Express 'press release' as I can get those myself. I want to see authentic news reports or government provided information, in other words, pretty incontrovertible stuff.


Celia 4 years ago

Please sign the petition against TVi Express and here is the link:

https://www.change.org/petitions/tvi-express-holid...


Jude 4 years ago

Thank you TVI and May God Bless You more and more!


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Sounds like you should go to church instead.


Ryan Junio of TVI Express Philippines 4 years ago

all network marketing are legal, legalities are base on how its distributors manage the business, and distractions like kschang proves that TVI Express really brought too much attention in the market, we dont care about your personal problem with the company, you and your unsubstantial ideas to make the company more stronger.


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Your rhetoric sounds a bit hollow. Feel free to explain HOW are you complying with DTI Adminstrative Order No.8 (i.e. anti-pyramid law), why TVI Express HQ got raided by Indian police back in 2011, and whether you joined the DSAP yet.


Jean Delieu 4 years ago

I joined TVI in 2009, in the beginning everything seemed to be O.K.

Soon I found that the french leader, Mr. Christian Sudol, a personal friend of Mr. Tarun Trikha, was personally manipulating downline's in his own advantage. He also introduces "false" special TVI scheme's that worked partially and than started to slow down because of his manipulations. In fact TVI never paid their bonuses directly but via the resell of "vouchers" by using a members was adding 10% to the 250$. As soon as I went "Silver" it was suddenly very difficult to transfer money from the virtual bank to a normal banking system. For nearly two years the promised a Credit card that is still not available.

In France the system has fallen to zero activity and the so-called leaders are not longer interested, BUT they promote similar systems. Further we all had the sad experiences with the 5/6 nights, booking portal that never worked and so on. Writing them via the back office has poor effects. Isn't it possible to start a kind of class action against them as allowed under USA laws? I'm not familiar with Indian laws but it seems that an Indian journalist does a lot of good work.

Thank you for your article, it helped me a lot


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Peter Lombendencio or nimaichaitan -- I don't need to shoot myself in the head to know it's bad for me. Your analogy makes no sense.


help 4 years ago

my parents are already a member of tvi,but after I read all these info. I warn them not to continue and never to recruit,I was just wondering why even a few lawyers had joined TVI even though they already know that it's system to earn commissions is pyramid schemes..and that is illegal..

by the way were from Philippines and also when it launches here..there's also a participation of a popular tv newscaster and an actor..if this is illegal indeed why they are still joining..?I guess they're not informed that this is a international scam...

Any way..as I mentioned that my parents are members here though we did not pay in full..they lend us membership,when I tried to log in in their website..I can't open it..no matter how many times I tried..I don't know why...and also the one time holiday vacation package in resorts is not really accessible which made me think that this is really is a scam...and also that it is already banned in many countries..by that it's really a hard evidence that it is really a scam...


help 4 years ago

how can we help other people here in ph to prove to them that this is a scam...and I don't know if our government know about the operation of tvi...how can we set a legal action to stop them from operating when even the members are lawyers...?They have business permit..but it's very easy to get business permit here but the question is if their operation or system is legal...I want this to be investigated..


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Other than start complaining to police, TV station, DSAP, fraud investigators, etc. there really is no way. Maybe petition one of your local representatives of Congress?


help 4 years ago

can you make another article about tvi that is specially dedicated to filipinos..and have you read the new faq's of tvi websites...they change it but it's still vague...and it's not direct to the point answer (I think...),I'd attended 2 seminars already but i'm not a member it's because of my parents..the only explanation they have why members get discount in hotels and resorts is that they have suppliers...the suppliers negotiate...that's all...but I still don't know how they get discounts...it's more believable now.But it still convince that it is a pyramid scheme..and I don't like it...because it's illegal and not fair...they just hiding it from the travel accommodation discounts.I'm amazed that some lawyers and even priest (they say...) are joining tvi...,pls.. read again the new revised faq's of tvi websites and create another article...coz I don't want tvi to continue manipulating people's mind and giving them false hope...(im sorry my grammar is bad but I can still understand english)


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

The problem is the overall concept. You don't "buy discounts". That makes no sense.

And you certainly don't buy discounts in order to "make money".

Why not write your own articles? I don't speak Tagalog and I am not familiar with Filipino expressions to make my point convincing to Pinoy.


help 4 years ago

right...,anyway thanks...


chang fan 4 years ago

chang can u pls contact the government,tv stations,cyber crime agengy or the nbi in the philippines to further investigate tvi express...thanx a lot....


samirooo 4 years ago

great article.... , anyway i have just join tvi and want to understand something with all of what you mentioned .... what is the wrong of provide such as a trip in your country and discounts for all you entire life to people and tell them all the facts and the one want to join with all of this facts sigh in and try to work or just get the service .... i can agree with all this facts in your article if i lie at the one i present for him this company but if i said all the truth about it and he want to join for the trip or to work then this is wrong ?!

besides, here in egypt for 250$ + the taxes 150$ if 8 members go to resolt in say sharm el shikh its not as much the normal amount you know . i mean with tvi i am winner even if i dont work if i join for the trip ..... can you answer me on that ?


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kschang 4 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

What does your local Ulama Council say about this? I can tell you that Ulama Council in Indonesia already called it a scam and declared it haram. And Saudi Arabia is right on the edge of outlawing it. I am not familiar with Shariah law so I'll leave that up to the experts.


Mohamed 3 years ago

I'm mohamed from egypt ana i'm IR at tvi express. At freedom fighters Team. We have a product ana i enjoyed by the product at tvi with 5 times. I don't know why you wrote something like this about TVI. It's a very goood company.


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kschang 3 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Is anything I wrote untrue? If so, you do not like truth, correct?


ashwin rekhi 3 years ago

To,

INDIAN GOVERNMENT,

E.O.W Crime branch , Mandir Marg.

New Delhi -110001

SUBJECT: Complaint against:-

1. www.tviexpress.com having its registered office at 7/6369 street no-3 , dev Nagar , Karol Bagh , New Delhi -110005

2. Tarun trikha s/o Vinay Kumar trikha R/o 7/6369 street no-3 dev Nagar , Karol Bagh , New Delhi -110005 (India)

3. Geonarnigeonawan, (Indonesia).

Passport no bcn1491000000002192.Corporate Office PT TVI Express STC Senayan, 4th Floor # 69, Asia Afrika Pintu IX Gelora Senayan , Jakarta Pusat 10270

4. Varun trikha s/o vinay Kumar trikha , R/o 7/6369 street no-3 dev nagar , karlog bagh , new delhi -110005

5. Veena trikha w/o vinay Kumar trikha R/o 7/6369 street no-3 dev nagar , Karol bagh , new delhi -110005

6. Sikha trikha d/o vinay Kumar trikha R/o 7/6369 street no-3 dev nagar , karlog bagh , new delhi -110005

7. Accused 2,3,4,5and 6 are directors, shareholders and promoters of Accused No. 1.

A complaint under:

Section 420 ,468,471 r/w 120 of Indian Penal Code, and

SEBI (Disclosure and Investor Protection Guidelines), 2000,

Section 4 of Prevention of Money Laundering Act, 2002.

Dear Sir,

1. The Accused no. 1 is a company incorporated under the Companies Act, 1956 having its registered office at 7/6369 street no-3 dev Nagar , Karol Bagh , New Delhi -110005 and engaged in business of share trading, portfolio management, commodities trading, other different kinds of SEBI products, Holiday package and Air ticketing The accused conducted all these businesses without taking any legal sanction and approval as required under law. Accused now is also collecting money on name of pacific royal airlines (Indonesia). Accused no. 2,3,4,5and accused no-6 are the majority shareholders and promoters of the accused no. 1. Accused no. 2,3,4,5 and accused no-6 entered into a criminal conspiracy wherein they siphoned and misappropriated more than Rs.10000 crores of innocent public money from all worlds . All these monies have been siphoned and misappropriated by those accused as they were managing the entire finance of the accused no. 1 From this money the all accused have created wealth in the form of fixed deposits, real estates, expensive cars like Mercedes, B.M.W , from one airline (pacific royal airlines) etc. in their personal name. List of properties owned by those accused are annexed as Annexure ___After committing the crime all the accused are absconding and are not traceable.

2. Accused were initially running a partnership firm in the name v2 international , v2 trade. In which the accused no. 2, 3 and 4 were partners.

3. That in the month of January , 2009. The Accused no. 1 had published an advertisement inviting application for a scheme of investing money. Vide the said advertisement the Accused invited the general public to participate in the said scheme for investing money, whereby accuseds assured a return of double your invested money through travel business in the said scheme.

4. In July, 2010 the complainant was called by the accused at café coffee day, Karol Bagh , New Delhi. For a personal meeting in furtherance to the said advertisement. When the complainants went to the office of the accused they were misrepresented that the accused No.1 has grown into a very big entity and the accused told the complainant that there are really good future prospects of the company in the market. It was also misrepresented that they will earn huge profits on their investments in the accused No. 1 to the tune double their investments per year.

5. The complainants who were thereby allured into the money grabbing scheme of Accused trusting the assurance given by Accused no.2, 3,4,5 and 6.

6. .The Complainants are bona fide investors who invested their life savings with the accused under the bona fide belief that they will earn returns on their investments which will provide them steady source of income. The complainant never realized that the accused above named, in collusion with each other had conspired to dupe the complainant and several other investors like the complainant by defrauding and cheating. The modus operandi adopted by the accused to cheat the innocent investors like the complainant was unique and act of a master mind.

7. These investments were done by the complainant over a period of time. The documents showing that these investments were made by the complainants are Annexure as Annexure-1. (Attaché invoice of member)

8. The investment done by the complainant with the accuseds are described herewith:

(Name and investment)

9. The accuseds have cheated and misappropriated the entire amount which was invested by the complainant thereby causing wrongful loss to the complainants and wrongful gain to the accuseds. The complainants have suffered huge financial loss because they fell prey to the criminal conspiracy hatched by the accuseds. It is not only the complainant, there are thousands of people who have invested their hard earned money with the accuseds based on the promise of sure returns by the accuseds. But the accuseds have conspired to cheat and misappropriated their entire money. Hence, these investors and the complainants have lost their investments in the similar fashion.

10. The Accused no. 2 masterminded the entire conspiracy in collusion with Accused no. 3,4,5 and 6. All these accused claimed themselves to be well-versed authority on investments related to holiday and air ticketing . To substantiate their false claims, these accused fabricated documents to show that they have been regularly investing in the airlines and earning phenomenal returns therefrom. The Complainant was enthused by such fabricated documents to make investments with the accused. .

11. As a part of their conspiracy, the accused floated a company in the name of the elite . The Accused no. 2,3,4,5 and 6 are the major shareholders, promoters, and directors of Accused no.1. These three accuseds controlled the day to day affairs of the accused No. 1, 2and 6 and controlled their entire finances.. A copy of the certificate of Incorporation, Form 32 for name of Directors, Article of Association, Memorandum of Association, List of Shareholders, List of Promoters is annexed as Annexure- 2 to the present complaint.

12. Also the accused created a website in the name of Accused no. 1 being www.tviexpress.com , In the said website the accused floated the false and fabricated facts in order to misguide and induce the innocent investors to invest their money with Accused no. 1. The copy of the website is annexed as Annexure- on the website also Accused no. 2 refer as CEO, 3 (vice president (now the patron of the company)) were represented as the person who was handling the affairs of Accused no.1.

13. The Accused in order to induce the people to invest their money with accused no. 1 started proclaiming through documents, websites and advertisements that they will give double of their investment per year. Moreover, in order to create a false belief in the investments the accused also organized a road show in which they showed the transfer of the dummy transactions, which they have earned. With the dishonest intention, the accused would everytime show a transaction of Rs. 500 crore in airlines and claimed that they have 40% per month in the said investment.

14. The accused further induced the complainants to bring in people for investments. The accuseds introduced an illegal concept where he made every investor an agent of the company and all the investors were supposed to get commission investments which they themselves made and which other people invested through them. It is suffice to say that the accused never gave any commission in this regard to the complaint.

15. The accuseds adopted a very unique modus to fraudulently and dishonestly denying making payment of commission to complain and all such investors who had automatically become an agent of Accused no. 1. Accused no. 1 floated a concept of E- wallet wherein the commission would come into account in the form of a point by the Accused no. 1 in conspiracy with the other co-accused. The result was that neither the complainant nor any investors g


pinay 3 years ago

My coleague before sounded very convincing but what I've heard is something too good to be true. If this is really true, I think rich people had been joining already with few more shares. Also if you are really concern with your friends, you are not going to persuade them to something you are not even sure to what you have been putting your self into.


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kschang 3 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

@Ashwin Rekhi -- can that document be viewed online somewhere? Kolkotta police do not seem to be that computerized... Can you scan the document and make it publically available? anonfiles.com is a good place to upload and share anonymously.


Miss Joe 2 years ago

I signed up with tvi July 2010 shortly after I tried to get the vacation trip they promised it ditto. Has anyone notice there is not one ph. # for anyone that you could call , not even the person I gave my money to. Tvi should be force by the law to give people there money. This is not a business it is a scam. I happened to call the number in London several times, always get a answer machine. I ask friends of mine who lives in U.K to check out this so called business they told me it is banned over there. This is definitely a scam. Where is the law when you need them


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kschang 2 years ago from San Francisco, CA, USA Author

Tarun Trikha, head of TVI Express, was arrested in India in April 2013.

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