Usenet.nl is a scam

Usenet.nl stole 99 euroes from my Pay pal account today. I used their 14 day free trial, but after doing some internet research and realising it was a scam, I immediately sent them an email stating that I had uninstalled their software and did not wish to continue using their service. (It was hidden in their terms of service that if you did not cancel within this time then you would be charged for a full YEAR!) 

Nevertheless Usenet.nl still charged me. I am now disputing the charge with them currently, so i will not say any more for now. However, If I don't get a satisfactory response I'm going to write another blog about this miserable scam of a company every single day for the rest of this year, and do my very best to ensure that they go out of business. I am using this initial blog as leverage in my dispute. 

BE WARNED: DO NOT USE USENET.NL, THEY ARE THEIVES.  

Comments 193 comments

dkmayo 6 years ago


dkmayo 6 years ago

Thanks for the warning.


Makingsense 6 years ago

That's is BS. Spread the word.


Marcus 6 years ago

Here's my usenet.nl review:

They are doing what they did to Tasbo to as many people as they can find.

Check out the blog of this kid Caleb below: new people are posting every few days with the same ripoff story.

http://bozonessinc.ca/2010/05/usenet-nl-is-a-scam/


zion 6 years ago

i got ripped off aswell they charged me 99 euros and wont refund, beware


Brenda 6 years ago

Same! I was ripped of 99Euros as well. I filed a paypal dispute, and will contact them.


Brian 6 years ago

Same here - wish I'd seen your blog before I signed up with these thieves. A further warning though - re-reading their site, it seems to indicate that they will only accept cancellations one day before a term is up. Which means waiting 364 days and then getting on the web and trying to get through their 'system' within 24 hours. I could be wrong about this, the English isn't great on their site, but it's worth watching out for. Has anyone had any success getting a refund/ paypal resolution? For what it's worth I'm filing another dispute with Paypal right now.


JoshuaXiong 6 years ago

OMFG, I did the same thing too. My account automaticlly send them 99 euro. I wish I coulda did some research before.


Tasbo 6 years ago

Hey guys. Paypal will not sort this out for you. If you lodge a complaint, all Usenet.nl have to do is state "intangible goods" in their reply, and they win automatically. Yes, it made me feel sick too.

you need to get in touch with your credit/debit card companies. They can do a chargeback in the event that one of their customers has been defrauded. As the banks will usually (99% of the time) be dealing with people who have had their card details cloned or stolen, they might overlook the fact that you are not contesting that you recognise the transaction. In my case the bank looked over the paypal dispute which showed that I did willingly sign up with usenet.nl, and then informed me that it was clear that I did recognise the transaction, so they would't proceed. I complained that i had never said that I didn't recognise it, only that i did not AUTHORISE it, as I had cancelled via email. The bank reopened the case.

So if you are in my situation, to save time, send them proof that you cancelled, and make it very clear that whilst you recognise the transaction (and your card details have not been stolen) you did not authorise it, and as such it does still constitute fraud. It seems the bank agrees with me, and are going to pursue the matter with Usenet.nl - RESULT!

I hope this company gets shut down as a result of my complaint, that would be so sweet. I'm not a particularly vengeful person, but these guys have really, really, really pissed me off.

Hope you guys all get your money back.

Good luck.


Usenet.nl 6 years ago

Dear Usenet.nl users,

first of all we would like to apologize to everyone who is having problems with our service.

Since it seems that there have been some misunderstandings we would like to explain how our sign up process works.

When signing up on our website you enter the so called Free Trial Period which lasts for 14 days. This period can be used to check out our software and download more than 300 GB for free. If you do not want this trial period to be converted into a paid contract it must be canceled within this period.

Unlike stated in a comment you can cancel ANYTIME during the trial period or contract period. The easiest way to do so is by using the Cancel button in the member area, but it can also be done via mail, email or the Support inquiry.

However, since we highly value Customer Satisfaction and are constantly trying to make our service as easy, accessible and transparent as possible we would like to ask everyone who is having troubles to contact us at mediarelations@usenet.nl. We will then gladly try to find a satisfactory solution.

All the best,

Your Usenet.nl Team


Shubhajyoti Ghosh 6 years ago

Same for me also. I was ripped of 99Euros as well on 18 - Nov - 2010. I already send couple of mails to them. But not get any proper response from their end. I already mentioned that cancel my contract I don't want to Extend or upgrade my account.

Same kind of reply got from their end. Please check Bellow.

==============================================

thank you for your message from 18.11.2010:

You were asking why your contract was automatically extended into the Usenet 25 package.

You have signed up for our Usenet.nl free trial package on November 3, 2010 and you have neither chosen any other package nor cancelled your contract.

According to the information concerning your right of revocation, which you accepted upon registration, the renewal of your contract was on November 18, 2010.

If you would like to choose a different package by the end of your running period, you can easily do so in your member area.

If you would like to cancel to the next possible date, you can do so in your member area by clicking on "My account" > “Cancellation” or by contacting us via our support form: http://usenet.nl/index.cfm?DL=sf

Unfortunately, we subsequently cannot cancel your contract.

Thank you for your understanding.

=============================================

I already send a mail to "mediarelations@usenet.nl" regarding this. But not yet response any kind of reply still now.

Please help me some one what I have to do.


ADN 6 years ago

I had the same problem one week ago.

What I did was to file a PayPal transaction dispute and check "Unauthorized Transaction". I got my money back in less than 24 hours.


Tasbo 6 years ago

Since Usenet.nl are now taking my blog seriously, i wonder whether they would respond to my concerns:

Your Cancellation button DOES NOT WORK

Your phone number DOES NOT EXIST

Your "noreply" email address which i cancelled through, having failed to contact you by any other means is not in fact a noreply adress, so why did you not cancel my membership having received the email within the 14 days, requesting that you do this?

Why, upon receiving my complaint through payPal which documented everything I had done to cancel, was your only response, the rather rude and patronising "PayPal won't refund you because its intangible goods".

FUCK YOU Usenet.nl - I have taken much more trade from you than you have got from me, and I told you I would. I will continue to fight for the people being ripped off by this total scam - it is my firm intention to drive you out of business completely.

To anyone reading Usenet.nl's lame explanation...don't believe a word of it - this is a SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM.


jojoe 6 years ago

Thanks for the tip guys. I was considering signing up. I will stay away from them. I appreciate your sharing your experience and hope you get refunded!


Tasbo 6 years ago

I wrote to the mediarelations address that usenet.nl suggested in the above post. I again showed them the clear evidence that I had cancelled by email within the 14 days.

They did not respond to any of my claims, but just sent an automated reply. Don't believe them when they say they will deal with your concerns. They wont. They are a scam.


Kenneth 6 years ago

I have the same problem and send complaint to mediarelations@usenet.nl on 26-Nov 2010.

They responded within the same day and informed me that I will get the refund of Euro 99 by Paypal which will show up in a week.

I appreciate their action.


Tasbo 6 years ago

Kenneth is lying = works for usenet.nl. Don't believe a word of it. If you continue to do this I will reject your comments.


Kenneth 6 years ago

I got my refund from Paypal today, and it could be that they do consider the impact of negative publicity.

Thanks for showing the email address: mediarelations@usenet.nl at this blog.


Ollie 5 years ago

I registered for the free trial then never received anything via email, then 2 weeks later I got charged 99Euros for 'nothing'.

My email address returns an 'account not found' response so no way to even log in and cancel my 'mythical' account.

Trying to get a resolution through the good people at paypal. Fingers crossed!

Be warned do not touch Usenet.nl they are unscrupulous scum and the 'service' is nothing more than a scam.

Also, the 2 messages from Kenneth can only be a usenet.nl employee, people are not stupid Kenneth!


Usenet.nl Team 5 years ago

Dear Ollie,

First of all we are very sorry that you were having problems with our service.

Referring to the description of your problem it seems like the email address you provided during signing up on our website was incorrect. Hence, neither did you receive the confirmation email, nor could your email address be found in our system.

In order to find your account we will need the transaction details from your PayPal account (e.g. the invoice number). Therefore we kindly ask you to send us this information to mediarelations@usenet.nl. We will then try to find a satisfactory solution for you.

All the best,

Your Usenet.nl Team


Ronak 5 years ago

I am not usenet user.

please can anyone help me with one file on usenet?

Ecourse dentalmcqs university of birmingham

I am in great need of it.I would be very grateful. thank you

Mail me at dr.shah09@yahoo.co.in


roman 5 years ago

Just two days ago I have been charged 99Euro for allegedly signed contract. I have sent the email, but really don't expect anything to my favour. I will try everything to get my money back a will post if I succeed.


tychi 5 years ago

I have the same problem today .

Then i phoned this number ;1-877-2573 360

Now i am waiting for reply.....


Tasbo 5 years ago

I have finally after a 4 month battle, won my case - HSBC proved that I had cancelled and had therefore been defrauded by usenet.nl - so if they are still reading my blog - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I TOLD YOU I WOULD WIN, not only that, but by hub has attracted 1000s of views and done your company untold damage!

I win, you loose!

I will be contacting PayPal today, and see if I can get you thrown off their books too, you complete bunch of talentless theiving bastards, FUCK YOU!


Fred 5 years ago

lol dude you seriously have a problem


Ty Tokyo 5 years ago

About my case, i did not cancelle during free trial period.

so they chareged 99Euro.

I had overlooked their automatic accounts.

Do you think this is my fault?

after i cancelled They sent e-mail to me ,,,

----------------------------------

thank you for your message from 15.12.2010:

As requested we have just carried out your cancellation for the contract

with the customer number 987013. We regret your decision and think it is a

pity to lose you as Usenet.nl customer.

In a few minutes you will receive a separate e-mail with the cancellation

confirmation and the expected end date of your contract.

You were asking why your contract was automatically extended into the

yearly Relax package.

You have signed up for our Usenet.nl free trial package on 11/29/2010 and

you have neither chosen any other package nor cancelled your contract.

According to the information concerning your right of revocation, which you

accepted upon registration, the renewal of your contract was on 12/14/2010.

If you would like to choose a different package by the end of your running

period, you can easily do so in your member area.

Unfortunately, we subsequently cannot refund the amount due.

Thank you for your understanding.

---------------------------------

Anybody has idea to get my money back?

Thanks .


kiki 5 years ago

I have same issue with usenet.nl! It's a totally scam! They didn't respond to any of my email and the phone number doesn't work at all!!!! The cancellation button doesn't work until the day they charged me 99euro! I will fight with them until I get my money back!!


angry grapes 5 years ago

I have same problem and I hate this scam.

I called them and they refused to refund.

Can I argue with paypal?

Thanks! I want my money back!


Haris  5 years ago

Little bit difference with my experience, I can perform download from usenet.nl but most of the files on Filemaster tab have a status: PAR of file INVALID and some of file have Incomplete status. Very-very disappointed because I loss my time and my money and didn't found the mail address to complaint.

I warn all of you, please be careful with this usenet.nl propose !!!!!!

Thanks

Haris


angry grapes 5 years ago

To Tasbo,

You are the hero. Let's fight together with Usenet.nl!!!


NotITSavvyMum 5 years ago

I had the same issue with usenet.nl Never even login whilst in the trial period. Rang the hotline and was answered by a very rude customer service rep. I just lodged unauthorised claim via paypal, and cancelled the transaction. This company is based in Netherland, I am sure EU has some law protecting us consumers from companies like this, taking an advance from us with no valid services in return.

I suggested to the rep, to be a responsible company, at least usenet.nl should send a reminder to us prior to taking the advance subscription like other providers, but he answered, 'aren't you supposed to be responsible as well, pay or cancel as you agreed'. He was really a jerk. I am not going to let them go. Euro 99.00 is a lot of money.


Darius 5 years ago

Hello for everyone,

I am very glad that you saved my money. 10 minutes ago I wanted to sign in to Usenet.nl, but before pushing the Confirm button I decided to check people opinion about this site. So I found this blog. THANKS for everyone !

I wish all of you will get refund. And please do not give up.

Thanks one more time. Good luck.

Darius


paul 5 years ago

the thieves from usenet.nl have also stolen from my PayPal account 99 Euro. Approx 3 weeks ago was trying to find some drivers for my SONY laptop and found via google search link with SONY VAIO drivers to usenet.nl . They charged me 1 Euro for the download, which I found ok. The downloaded file was some kind of doggy software infected with virus and NOT the driver package as promised by usenet.nl advert. I lost 1 Euro and wasn't very happy with this but forgot about it. 2 weeks after this I noticed that my PayPal account was charged with almost 100 Euro... I was really furious about this fact and cancelled the transaction in PayPal dispute panel, giving some information about unauthorised by me transaction. After approx 2 hours from starting the dispute the cancellation was successfully confirmed by PayPal. The PayPal team promised to transfer the 99 Euro back to my bank account (will confirm this info when the money will reach my account). PayPal team was really quick in the response and their reaction against the usenet.nl thieves amazing.

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Monica 5 years ago

Thanks everyone! I found this by googling "usenet.nl scam"

Always, always do this before paying an unknown website money...


Dr.Dude 5 years ago

Yeah I was going to sign up for Usenet.nl because I wanted a easy reliable source to get torrents. I thought "Finnaly! This looks like a good site to get torrents from! And i don't have to pay for the free trial!" (I'm way to trusting sometimes .....) And I did submit my Credit card info but as usual the first time I entered it I took to long (because of alot of hesitation) and I had to resend my credit card info. But they said they'd send me a email with login instructions when I sent my information so that's is why I don't think the info sent. But anyways before I sent it again I remembered I should see what other people think about this site to see if it was worth it or a scam or something.

Unlike alot of people here, i saw that if i didn't cancel within the 14 day trial period I'd get billed for the full year(i saw this several times actually). I live in the US so we use dollars here and i don't know the conversion very well but that's beside the point. My question was if I could cancel easily with out problems, and of course if it was a scam. And thanks to this blog i know now not to use Usenet.nl :) So thanks ^w^

Oh and i totally agree with monica, Always check to see if a site is a scam before paying money to it. Doing that has saved me twice now from scams. XD


Rosamaria 5 years ago

Hola

A mi me pasa lo mismo que a todos vosotros solo que yo no entrado nunca en USENET. NL sino uno de mis hijos .


Luiz C. Segantini 5 years ago

I had the same problem, I´m contesting with paypal. It´s a SCAM.


Noobs... 5 years ago

Well, if u ppl just read, this wont happen : )

You can pick either for 1 month or for a year.

or for u guys that did send an email for cancell, you might give them your real email before you complain....

i had no problem with this site, and im also going to pay eatch month, therfore i don't have to be charged for 1 year if i diecide to cansell. cuz i world then had to agree to the terms of 1 year of charge..

My english is not that good. sorry

So to all. PLEASE READ, and have a look of all of your upportonities... (i cant spell that word) xD

Take care.


bravo 5 years ago

thanks dudes. This usenet is a waste matter. I tried to use the free trial, downloadede the software and then entered direct to the site. It is pure crap, nothing useful. Then i was disappointed and and tried to enter again later. the user name and password information failed to work. i tried to contact them. They will never respond to the form i sent them. Grand scammers. time is precuous turn yourself off these scammers.


Thanks 5 years ago

Just about to sign up for usenet.nl and thought i would google it first. Now I obviously wont and based on all the replies i hope usenet.nl gets what's coming to them.


bschust 5 years ago

I have had the exact same experience with Usenet. I sent a email I did not want their services and to cancel the "invoice" they had emailed me. They still took $99 Euro from my account! Today I filed an unauthorized transaction from PayPal. Usenet is a HUGE SCAM!!!!!


bschust 5 years ago

TIP....if you originally paid Usenet $1 thru Paypal go into your Paypal account and cancel any access to money they might have thru Paypal. Paypal is like a credit card. I paid Usenet $1 which then gave them access to my Paypal account for the unauthorized $99 euro they withdrew without my knowledge or consent!


Prateek from India 5 years ago

Thnx I was about to confirm my order on usenet when I thought lets check out if this is not a scam and whoa I saw your blog imagine my relief thank you so much for the warning you have my money thank you again dude


Bran 5 years ago

They just charged my paypal but my bank put a stop payment so i'm good


Chris 5 years ago

I signed up for their 2-week trial and cancelled about 12 days into it. I haven't been bothered with any of my money missing or any other charges. So I don't know what you're talking about. If anyone's interested in talking further about this, you can contact me at chrismackey1972 at y a hoo dot com


Dan 5 years ago

Thumbs up! I was only second from signing up but i luckily read this before. Thank you for warning us!


David 5 years ago

Thanks Tasbo. Usenet is a total scam. And I couldn't find what I was looking for... I've signed for the trial period, and charged 1 euro. But today, one week after I signed, the Usenet people have sent a warning email, saying that in a week they will charge 99 euro in my PayPal account and provided a "cancel" link. So I've done it. I also cancelled the Paypal perm for Usenet, so I hope they won't charge the bill.

It seems Usenet is learning from their mistakes, I hope so.. So thanks again for this hub, from Spain.


Stirling 5 years ago

Same story here...total ripoff. I signed up for usenet.nl after a search turned up results for an e-book I was looking for. After paying the $1 trial period fee, there was nothing even close in the usenet database that resembled what I was looking for. Like most of you here, I forgot about it and moved on.

Two weeks and one day later, I received an email from PayPal stating that a payment had been initiated from my account for 99 Euros ($139!). Infuriated, I immediately canceled my usenet account and contacted customer service to state my case and request a refund. The CSR replied that they acted according to the Terms & Agreements and would not issue a refund. They told me that they had sent emails seven days and one day prior to trial period expiration notifying me of this occurrence. I requested to speak with a manager and he told me that he would not pass me off.

Fortunately, I also filed a complaint with PayPal on the same day. The issue was quickly resolved and my funds returned.

DO NOT USE THIS SERVICE. USENET IS A TOTAL SCAM!

Thanks to all the posters in this blog for helping out. I only wish I had checked for this before signing up!


maurice 5 years ago

waooo happen to me last week , i just used a free trial and the next day charge me a 99euros -139 us dolars that's not fear but they take me money out fom my bank account i will talk with my bank maybe they can help i really don't want to lose $139 that easy ,someone knows if i can get my money back???? this people is really a scam .....


maurice  5 years ago

ok i have my money back , my bank knows this company so that good so no more problems about it usenet will change that page and don't charge money like that ...well thanks you guuys for this alert....

muchas gracias me sirvio de mucho esta pagina buenos comentarios nunca vuelvo a esa pagina de usenet en mi vida ....gracias de nuevo....


Fortunate 5 years ago

Almost signed up but I googled...

Thanks Bro


Convinced! 5 years ago

I've been looking for a file for quite a while, and the only place that it seemingly came up was Usenet.nl. I was going to give it a try, but then I read this blog. Now there is no way. In case Usenet.nl reads this, I want to be clear: I will not be signing up because of what everyone has written here. Negative publicity is a killer. Good luck to everyone trying to work out their disputes. And thank you very much for sharing your experiences. I almost want to take 100 euros and split it up to everyone above. Almost. ;)


romy241 5 years ago

i have registered and got a user id and password in my email id, now i can log in to software but cannot login to memmber login on usenet.nl page

plz help me on how can i cancel my account.i cannot log in and my mail was also deleted

i have not filled any paypal or any account details while registration.will i be charged ??

plz tell me,reply me.


damosss 5 years ago

fair play lads you saved me 100. hope usenet go outta business thanks to you!


Rensha 5 years ago

OMG! I cant believe this. I have just signed up for usenet only to get scared about by credit card details after i finished the signup! Am so scared now. I cancelled the contract just after 10 mins and they sent me an acknowledgement mail for cancelling but am doubting the whole integrity of the company now. what should i do so that they don't deduct 90 euros?


Dave 5 years ago

Thanks for this blog, I also was about to sign up, but on reading this I've reconsidered :)


Francesco 5 years ago

Guys you are very stupid...

When you see a site asking paypal/credit card details for a FREE 14 days trial, you should instantly close that site... why should they even ask it, if it's only a free trial? It was written that they would have charged you after the trial, it is only your own fault...


Brian  5 years ago

Thank you so much for this blog!! I was literally seconds away from signing up with Usenet.nl when I decided to Google 'Usenet.nl scam'. I then found this blog. The more posts you continue to get, the higher your blog will rank on Google, the more people will be warned before being scammed. Usenet.nl is a complete scam, and I love how this site is ruining their reputation!!


Lau 5 years ago

TQ for you comments. I was about to sign up, now I may swith to Astraweb. TQ TQ


missjustice 5 years ago

Thank you so much for this blog. I have been scammed by these parasites and used the info provided here to get my money back.

The fact is their business is fraudulently unethical and they earn their money from unsuspecting people who forget to cancel or who are unable to cancel before the end of the 14 day trial. Anyone who is not happy with their service should not have to pay for something they do not want.

Stay Away from Usenet.nl


Samstory 5 years ago

Same story here my paypal account got charged for 99 euro, contacted them but only got ignorant replies and some quotes from the user agreement.

This is not customer support.

Every wondered about why they are charging automaticly for a FULL YEAR PACKAGE because it's the easiest way to steal the money then showing you the agreement that you accepted the rules.

It's fraud.


Samstory 5 years ago

I filed a dispute on my P.P. account that has been charged and Paypal reversed it and I got full refund.

The funny thing that I keep sending emails to Usenet asking for refund and they are just ignoring it without actually investigate who I am. They should have seen the money stolen from me is already reversed by Paypal:)

Don't send email them they don't bother at all and it's their failure cuz I'm having 1-year-subscription without having payed for it.

OWNED :)


Nicky 5 years ago

Thanks so much for letting us know that this is a scam. I was just about to sign up for their free 14 day trial!!


Mort 5 years ago

There's nothing wrong with trying out the trial. Just too many people forget to cancel and then they start to complain big time. I'm not saying that there are certain issues with Usenet.nl, but if everyone would read carefully what they're signing up for, we'd have just half of the complaints and a quarter of the scams!


annon 5 years ago

Reading their Ts and Cs its incomprehensible, but it does appear to me that if you use the service ie to download something then you have waived your option to cancel.

It appears to be a scam to me, Im glad I read this first. I can do without the hassle.


Deep Thought 5 years ago

That's complete nonsense. I used Usenet.nl for the trial period an canceled a couple of days before it ended. No problem whatsoever. And yes, I downloaded quite a lot, so maybe you should test it first instead of trying to be a smartass!


Engineer: it's obviously a scam! 5 years ago

First of all I did not sign up in use net but it is obviously a scam for the following reasons:

anything that you want is available at UseNet!!!no way in hell

it is impossible for a site to publically ask you for money to provide you with copy righted materials without being sewed by the companies

they draw you in by the trial period & they warn you that you'll have to pay if you do not cancel before 14 days. the only problem is that you will not be able to cancel! very devious move

all the sites with good reputation ask you to confirm that you want their service but usenet says that you will be automatically charged after the 14 days trial, I wonder why!

huge unbelievable promises! 600G download in a month!! again they want to draw you in to the trap

the huge number of people who mention that they were tricked by usenet is an strong proof that it is a scam

do not be tricked by the people who tell you test it first because this is all what they need to steal your money (using their devious contract)

they will try to develop their scam now after all these comments on this blog or they will just stick to their profits from the innocent people who will believe their rubbish promises directly

thanks a lot for all the people who commented on this topic & to Tasbo for raising this issue


Engineer 5 years ago

do not walk from one trap to another!

all usenet look alike sites are the same

always check for scames before you give your detailes to any body

if there is any suspecious thing in the contract forget about the site & do not use the service

even if they say that your account has been cancelled, keep all the formal papers since they can charge money after a few years hoping that you have lost the papers or e-mails

it is better to cancel the bank account of which you have given them the details


Engineer 5 years ago

Even if they return the money they will keep it first in the bank & take interest on it through the whole period until they refund! I am amazed how fraudulent these companies are!!!!

In the same time if you rip off only 2$ from a million people you will end up with 2000,000 $!!! Just imagine collecting 135$ from millions of people around the globe & taking interest on this money (even if you had to return some or all of it back)! This is huge & extends far beyond usenet & maybe implicating other people & companies


Frank 5 years ago

I don't quite understand why everyone's talking about scam?? I mean they actually offer a service which you can use and which is useful. I would understand if you'd call them scammers if they just ripped off your money without nothing in return. But in fact you get something for your money! And if you don't wanna pay for it just cancel their service in time...


Ceco 5 years ago

Same thing happened to me. I didn't read the conditions and subsequently I didn't see the e-mail, informing me that if I don't cancel my account in three days the contract will be automatically extended for a year and an automatic payment will be carried. I wrote to usenet support, but they told me that refund or cancellation is impossible so a issued a paypal dispute for an unauthorized payment, explaining to paypal everything that happened. I received a refund in less than 24 hours.

Paypal did a great job, obviously they really protect their customers, for which I am very grateful!

I understand that I have some fault for not reading the usenet conditions but their actions are clearly unethical and deceptive. It's just a cheap way of making money and loosing customers. I intended to use their service from time to time, paying a month tax, but now this is not going to happen!

Once again, good job Paypal!


Donny 5 years ago

Wow...this is really poor. It's like buying a book in a bookstore and stealing the money out of the till afterwards! And your only excuse is that their business is "unethical" and "deceptive"? Just because others before you were too stupid to cancel the trial in time doesn't mean it's legitimate for everyone to do the same. You do not have "some fault" buddy, it's COMPLETELY your fault!


Ceco 5 years ago

It's more like the bookstore taking your money out of your pocket for a quick look of the book. Than they tell you, yes, we took your money without your knowledge, but see, the book is yours, it doesn't matter you don't want it, you should have told us you don't want the book before leaving the store. Is this the way the bookstores make business? I don't think so. Neither does Paypal. It you who go to the cash-desk and say, I did a quick look of this book, I liked it and I want to buy it.

I may have been stupid enough not to read their conditions and the conditions may be completely legitimate but this doesn't make them a good practice. No normal company would take the money out of your pocket, it will ask you if you agree before making any transactions.

Same thing with experts-exchange.com, at least by default they charge month by month and don't sell you the whole bookshelf for looking at a single book.

I don't care any more, I've learned a good lesson, my money is back, all payments to usenet.nl are blocked and I'm not going to use their service anymore. In the end, I haven't lost anything, they have lost a customer.


Donny 5 years ago

The problem is that you still must have been completely blind when you signed up for usenet.nl. There isn't only the TOS, but on the registration site there's a phrase in bold letters telling you that you need to cancel if you do not want your membership to extend. Plus the price.

Hence, there was a huge label on the book telling you how much you will have to pay for it if you want to read it completely. And there are thousands of other companies who offer their service in the same way. It's like common knowledge already, and only those who are in fact too stupid to read what they are signing up for are the ones who complain about "scams".

So once again buddy, this is absolutely, utterly and completely your fault!


AJ 5 years ago

A question here people.

There's this one file I need for a research paper that's only seemingly available on usenet.

Now I cant be certain whether its bogus or not without signing up.

Is there a way I can sign up for usenet.nl,choose the compact package with 11.99 monthly payment, download my file and cancel within a couple of days and not end up paying anything?

I've heard there's trouble cancelling and sometimes even logging in.

Also I hope that 11.99 monthly payment wont be charged if i cancel in the aforesaid couple of days.

Taking all of this into consideration,if I maintain discipline and cancel(and usenet.nl doesn't deny me the cancellation/login) should I register with usenet.nl or completely avoid it?

I'd really appreciate it if any of you could weigh in and help me decide considering that I'm looking for that file quite desperately.

Thanks,

AJ


johnboy 5 years ago

almost tested the trial. Thank god I found this info first. Seems there is a lot of legalised scamming about. There are simply too many complaints against this company.


Peter A. 5 years ago

@AJ: I've testet usenet.nl for about 10 days and cancelling was no problem - they didn't charge my account. Most people here didn't try it out, they only tell what they have read or heard somewhere in the internet. I really can't understand that. Usenet.nl is simply a usenet provider like Astraweb or Giganews - and not a scam at all.

@johnboy: I have tested it and there was no scam - sometimes you are not supposed to believe everything what's written in the net.


Donny 5 years ago

@Peter A.

Thank god finally someone seems to understand what I'm trying to say here. It is so much easier to assume that usenet.nl is a scam and whatever "I" did wrong does not matter because - hey - some other people say it's scam as well because they too did not read what they were actually signing up for. If most of the complainers here had taken just 2 minutes to understand how to cancel the service this blog probably wouldn't even exist.


Shannon 5 years ago

Just signed up today for usenet.nl. I was not really able to find exactly what I was looking for after downloading and printing 86 pages. I tried to go back into website in every fashion and internet explorer is now unable to locate. Now WHAT??? Hopefully I can figure this out within next 13 days. Wish me luck


Major Alvega 5 years ago

Hi m8s.

the same happened to me paypal was the answer :)

Less than 24 hours i have the problem solved


Peter A. 5 years ago

@Shannon: There will be no problem. Just go to your account and cancel via the cancel button within the next days, as you already said. At the moment they are having troubles with their website - look at their support section: "Unforunately we experienced connectivity issues since yesterday. Please excuse any inconveniences, we are currently working on a compensation which you will receive shortly." After this weekend, everything should be ok again, I assume.


Bret 5 years ago

Ignore the complainers that forgot to cancel withing the 14 day trial period. Any trial you do will have terms like that, and if you forget, you need to pay.

But....read all of the original poster's comments, and quite a few after him. All of them DID read the TOS, and they DID cancel within the 14 days, and Usenet.nl stole their money anyway. This cannot be excused as user forgetfulness....it was theft. They are criminals, and should be avoided.

Also, ask yourself this...why is Paypal and the banks refunding finding in favor of so many of the other people posting here? They too recognize this company as a fraud.

Usenet.nl is not THE Usenet. The usenet is a widespread database, and in order to access it you need to pay a provider. I do NOT recommend Usenet.nl. I DO recommend Giganews, Easynews, UseNetServer, Astraweb, and Newshosting. Those are just 5 of the top, reliable and trusted companies, and they DO offer free trials. There are many other top companies.

Last, for those of you who are looking for that ONE eBook or document, and it appears that Usenet.nl is the only one with it....it's just a clever trick they've learnt. Use one of those other honest companies, and you'll find your file.


Jaxx22 5 years ago

Thanks guys - just about to load the so called "free trial" but decided to google and found this thread.


John 5 years ago

I just got off the phone with Usenet . . . all I have to say is that these guys have the scam down to a tee. I'm shocked paypal allows any transactions to or from these guys. I have a lawyer that is prepared to file a class action suite against these guys. It will be a long road ahead but it will be worth it in the end. I will update everyone in the coming weeks with details.


RightSide 5 years ago

I'm surprised that so many people think Usenet.nl is a scam. I signed up for the free trial and I read the terms. Right after signing up, I logged in to my Paypal account and disabled the automatic payment plan. It was very easy to do. I learned my lesson 6 months ago when I felt taken by a website called Megashares. They signed me up for automatic draft and I didn't realize. Since then, I have researched Paypal's automatic payment withdrawals. I think the problem is people assume Paypal is still just a single payment service. It is not anymore. If you sign up for something, you may very well be agreeing to a continuous commitment. Read the terms of agreement, people! Not just this website, all websites that take Paypal payments!


Ken_L 5 years ago

I have been using Usenet for almost a year now. My music collection has doubled in size and I will never have to buy another ebook. I find something new worth downloading every day - for example, about 20 of the most recent BBC Proms concerts. Pretty good value in my opinion.

It's clear that most of the people complaining signed up without reading what they were agreeing to, and then expected a refund. The lesson is to read more carefully before you give out your credit card details. But to call it a scam is simply wrong.

No doubt some people genuinely have had arguments about cancellations, just as most companies have customer complaints from time to time. Remember you are only reading one side of the story here and don't rush to judgement.


Not_USENET 5 years ago

Hmmm, read thru quite a few comments, so still a little uncertain of the full truth here. I too was about to sign up, but now I have to carry out even further research.

Couple of points; if you've signed up for the trail, and didn't cancel within the time period, yes, you will get charged. It's "for your convenience"...whatever, but it is in their ToS, so their playground, their rules.

However, and this is the bit that's a little unclear, if you have cancelled within their time frame, and are STILL charged, then it's a complete ripoff.

In this case, firstly, dispute it with Paypal (who are crooks themselves, but I won't go into this here). If you're not sure how to do this, google it, it's pretty straight forward.

If you have no joy with them, dispute it directly with your bank/cc company. Paypal almost always backs down and refunds you once their "masters" (the banks) get in touch.

I'd be interested if more people clarified if usenet.nl are purposely not refunding/cancelling or if people are just not abiding by their rules and getting caught out.

Peace


chnl3 5 years ago

well i'm glad i did my homework before signing their 14-day trial. hope everyone else has their disputes resolved favorably


Pally 5 years ago

I'm going to re-sign up to Usenet.nl.

I left them after 2 free weeks, because I could and it was the first Usenet server I had gone through - I wanted to do a bit of research. So I went with the safe, reliable giganews. This was a mistake as actually they weren't terribly good, not very quick and very big on selling products at you.

I've never used a quicker provider than those two weeks with Usenet and it was only this blog that had out me off. Re-reading these YouTube-esque comments, I feel pretty silly.

There's no malpractice in here, just people who claim a cancel button didn't work, and who obviously didn't do their reading. It's unfortunate, I hope you all get your disputes settled, but it also sounds like you're admitting to wanting something for nothing and then complaining about not being capable at monitoring your freeloading.


Bonlurk 5 years ago

Stopped me from signing up and for that I thank you Tasbo! - It's hilarious watching these 'usenet goons' (under various names) try and sway opinion, isn't that right 'Pally'? Your scam has been ousted, time to try another perhaps? :D


John B. 5 years ago

@ Pally (AKA Usenet.nl employee):

How do you equate a person who can't get this scam company's cancel button to work, which results in them being charged a full year, with complainers who want something for nothing? You're the one who obviously didn't do their reading...did you not read the original article and the multiple posts from people who got ripped off the same way? You're obviously someone who works with this bad company, and you're trying to slip some good posts among all the bad.

The people above who are complaining about being charged because they let the 14 day period slip by all deserve to be charged. But that's not the issue here, and it's certainly not what the original article is about. This is a bad company with ripoff practices, sitting safe in the Netherlands beyond legal remedy, laughing and thumbing their noses at all the people they've victimized. BEWARE OF THIS COMPANY - STAY AWAY!


Alexander 5 years ago

Be aware of this offer, it is NOT a real usenet access. The so called "EcoMode" does NOT work with real newsreaders.

Their support does not have the slightest idea about their business, they seem to not even read what you asked them. After more than 2 days messing around with them I canceled my account. Money is lost,

My conclusion: Stay with the "good names", like Giganews, Easynews, newshosting. Don't trust usenet.nl!


Ronel 5 years ago

I signed up for a trial as the program I was searching for came up on usenet.nl website. After registration and downloading their software the program was not found although their website came up with it in my google search.

The next day I cancelled via email and never visited their website again. I uninstalled the software immediately after not finding the program I wanted.

Surprise, surprise here I lose EUR99.96 for something I did not authorise and have no use for and got nothing in return for my money.

Before doing something this stupid first research the website on the internet ... sorry I did not do it then!

NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR BANKING DETAILS TO WEBSITES FOR "TRIAL" REGISTRATIONS. NEVER EVER!!!!!!


phillips 5 years ago

Hello everyone please can any one help me to get in touch with fastget2you.biz they scam me what can i do ?


SueTheirSorryA$$ 5 years ago

Thanks folks! Good luck on recovering your money AND hopefully coordinating an effort to shutter their site.

(For the spammers from the scam site, Usenet.nl: you're only fooling yourself if you think folks believe your PR regurgitations. Your effort is VERY transparent.)


automan 5 years ago

allways do what i did ..read the small print befor you pay.its says thay can take 99euros off you.ha.


Crime watch 5 years ago

I have been using usenet.nl for several weeks now........ I love it. It has been everything that I expected.... And more. For the people whining about being charged........ Read the fine print..... They are doing exactly what they said they were going to do.... I think it is a little crazy that you would "bad mouth" a group because of your inability to read the fine print... Or too lazy to respond within a pre-defined timeline.


mbsprorider 5 years ago

has anyone got a direct e-mail for usenet.nl as I'm unable to contact them and would like to cancel before my trail. i have received no luck with there scam of a question box and fake numbers. thanks


LordHands 4 years ago

I agree with a few of the comments. Reading the T&C's is a must these days, you never know what you're signing up for. I am a usenet.nl user, I have been using this for about 10 months during my free trial I received an email stating that my trial was coming to an end and that at the end of my I would be charged for the year @99 euros or I could change to a monthly subscription @11.99 euros per month. I selected the latter option and I am very happy with the service usenet.nl provide.

The moral of the story is, read the fine print. Or at the very least read you emails.


joolzee 4 years ago

Internet FTW

Thanks bro.. thought it was too good to be true


Koschka 4 years ago

Same here. Although they are now mailing me letters (yes, in the post!) from debt collection companies, too. I am about to contact a friend of my parents who is a pretty good lawyer, let's see what happens next.


LoL 4 years ago

go to this URL and look it carefully,

http://usenetdownloads.net/usenet.nl/files.php?q=

and you can get windows10 here,

http://usenetdownloads.net/usenet.nl/v4/files.php?...


jenny 4 years ago

Thank you for the warnings about signing up with usenet.

I agreed to a free trial for 14 days on 26.01.12 but couldn't work out what to do, (not very computer literate), so after half an hour, I cancelled as directed on their site. I was sent an email which said 'We hereby confirm that we have received your cancellation for the usenet contract.. Your account will not be extended after your current term has run out. The anticipated termination date of your contract is 02.09.12.

I only agreed to a 14 day free TRIAL not a contract.

If you cancel within the the 14 days why is your so called contract still running for months later.

So I took the advice of 'Right Side' and went onto my Pay Pal account.

Clicked profile - my money - Beside my pre approved payments sure enough there was usenet sitting there. I clicked on CANCEL.

I hope that's the last I hear of them!


Chris 4 years ago

Hi Jenny,

I think you should calm down a little bit. Of course you had or better you have a 14 days trial! And even this is a contract.

In addition to that the website clearly points out that you will have a paid contract if you don't cancel during the 14 days trial. The warning is located right between the "confirm-button" and your e-mail address. So you should probably read what you're signing up for... ;-)

And last but not least I don't think your contract will run until September... I think "02/09/12" means that your account will be closed on February the 9th. So there's no reason to worry, it's only 14 days for free...


jenny 4 years ago

Hi Chris

Thanks for your comments. I hope you are right and I am reading the date the wrong way round. That makes me feel a lot better.

Jenny


Odd Styrmo 4 years ago

After 1 day in the trial periode I tried to cancel but could not find any way to come in touch with usenet.nl.

Then I tok necessary steps to change my creditcard and ordering a new one with a different number.

Odd


Dany 4 years ago

Was about to sign and decided to check before confirming. I suspect that many of those leaving comments here actually forgot to cancel before the 14 days. Some saying that they cancelled before 14 days and still got charged is also suspicious. Nevertheless I go agree that Usenet.nl should drop this kind of offer is devious and they should go for a more simple and clear one: choice to pay for 14 days, 1 month or more...that would solve all the problems. That's mostly the reason why I will not sign up..


Barry in OZ 4 years ago

Best way of finding out if site is a scam is to enter a file name, book name etc which you know is NOT available or is a ficticious name and if Usenet.NL states that it is available from them, then you KNOW its a SCAM.


berry 4 years ago

I used usenet last year and successfully cancelled simply by deleting the automatic authorization from paypal; just like you would do with a bank direct debit. My usenet subscription was automatically cancelled a few days later.

After the closure of megaupload, I have resubscribed with usenet this time using the free trial feature. I didn't know about the 99euros charged; clearly they SHOULD have mentionned it in BOLD at the time of subscription.

However, I DID received an email from usenet one week before actually being charged the 99euros with subject:Extension of your usenet account. I immediately followed the link to tried to find out more, and successfully changed the subscription to a monthly instead of yearly so I can cancel at any time. I confirmed with paypal that the automatic debit was changed from 99euros to the monthly tariff.

I'm now a happy usenet user who can download files fast; even-though I will cancel my subscription if files are available through direct download(megaupload style) which are much cheaper.


Gogul 4 years ago

Well, they are funny actually. On the left panel they have this funny thing about 1979, where it states how some students conceived the idea of usenet. That actually happened, but with the "real" usenet.net.


Smell of gunpowder 4 years ago

Well, you guys are dumb for not conceiving it as a scam in the first place... When their ads are popping up in all the file search sites with fake files don't even exist, yea sure it sounds legit. Windows 15, 700mb. wow usenet is awesome.

Duh,

welcome to internet


fistamiki15 4 years ago

oh man thanks for the blog i was about to sign up. THANK YOU


Magavara 4 years ago

Thank you so much for this blog. I too was about to sign up for the one year deal. But then I googled them first and found your blog. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! What I read on your blog was enough to convince me not to do any business with usenet.nl, simply because they obviously cannot be trusted. I have been doing business on the internet since the early 90’s (which says something about my age ?). In all those years I came up with two guidelines that help to sort out the good guys from the bad guys:

1. An honest and sincere company will *always* be quick to respond to customer correspondence and is *always* quick to refund your money with no questions asked. I have done business with a number of good companies where the product turned out not to meet my expectations and my credit card was credited almost as quickly as it was charged when I signed up for something.

2. This second one is even more important. For me it is the grand test to test a company’s integrity: If a company is *really* sincere with their so-called trail offer, which is often for a period of one or two week, then they will also accept pre-paid credit cards that you can get at any Wal-Mart or similar store. If you buy a pre-paid VISA or American Express card for $25, for example, then you can go shopping with that in almost 100% of all the stores in the real world. However, many internet services will not allow you to sign up with those pre-paid cards despite the fact that there may be more than enough money on the card to cover the trial period. This is a *big* warning sign - beware! Honest companies will accept the pre-paid card because they think: “If the customer likes our service he will sign up with a real credit card later.” But many don’t do that because they want control of your money and they know that most people will not go to battle for getting a refund because it just wears them out.

Thanks again for this excellent blog!

Kai


Hong 4 years ago

Thanks for this warning! Without this i would have added myself to the scammed list. lol.


Peruvian 4 years ago

Thanks for this warning - thought it was too good to be true.

Any suggestions for a reputable site?


Dexter 4 years ago

I agree it IS wrong if you DID cancel your membership and they still charged your Paypal acc.

But you know, the next time you would like to cancel any such membership, why would you just not suspend/temporarily block your Paypal account so that it just CAN'T ever be charged until you unblock it?

I do not know if there is such an option in Paypal, but if there is an option to block ANY and ALL credit changes in your account, then you should ALWAYS activate it before such automated charge from Usenet etc should happen, and then disable it again few days later. That way you would be SURE that NO ONE will charge you when you don't want to.

It is THAT easy!


touro68 4 years ago

Hey Guys, Im very sorry for all of you and thanks to post this. I was going to register today! I will support everybody that wants to put this company out of business.


m6805 4 years ago

Magavara. . . you share some good insight, and you pass some tremendous misinformation!

You need to do more homework on those pre-paid credit cards.

A great number of them state in the terms of service that they are valid inn the

U.S. only. That, in and of itself, precludes a lot of these companies from

accepting them since their business offices are off shore.

Secondly anyone can obtain a new card at anytime making the old account

number invalid when the card is depleted.

Most people will not seek a new credit card number if the card is associated

to a normal financial stream!

While I agree with most of what you suggest I haven't yet felt that pain! I use

PayPal and can control the automatic payment through their control panel!

It's that simple!


m6805 4 years ago

Magavara. . . you share some good insight, and you pass some tremendous misinformation!

You need to do more homework on those pre-paid credit cards.

A great number of them state in the terms of service that they are valid in the

U.S. only. That, in and of itself, precludes a lot of these companies from

accepting them since their business offices are off shore.

Secondly anyone can obtain a new card at anytime making the old account

number invalid when the card is depleted.

Most people will not seek a new credit card number if the card is associated

to a normal financial stream!

While I agree with most of what you suggest, I haven't yet felt that pain! I use

PayPal and can control the automatic payment through their control panel!

It's that simple!


Babar Durrani 4 years ago

Dear All i am also the new Victim of Usenet i was on holiday and when came back i saw 99 Euro was deducted from my account they have stolen money from me that what i can say i never order for 1 year package at any time i just signed to use there free trial period.I believe if they want to punish us not to cancel within their free trial time they should extend it to One month but charging for 1 year its Fucking Criminal Act.

i Just want Usenet team to understand that they are the real hacker and terrorist on Internet they are using the all the means to steal money from People this site should be blocked by High Authorities i have also forward there complain to FBI and i also want you all people to also launch cases on these people.

they are the real Thief and Mafia of Internet. I request you all to give me some suggestion that how to close this site i don't want my money back i want this site to be blocked and put on trial .

And i hope Pay Pal also block there account from their Panel as we all trust PayPal and we are valuable Customer of paypal i would like to request pay pal to block them from there system as its also making bad reputation of PAYPAL.


Magavara 4 years ago

m6805, I just checked what you had to say about the pre-paid credit cards. What you say is true that they can usually only be used in the US. So, I stand corrected. I guess, since most of my online business is with U.S. companies I never noticed the restriction many, or perhaps even all of these cards have. I am quite positive however, that I ran into problems in the past with truly U.S. based companies, that wouldn't accept pre-paid credit cards either. And that to me is always a red flag.


Thanks for the warning 4 years ago

You just saved me some time and money!


Radeon 4 years ago

Hey you just saved me! I was about to sign up but I decided to so some research. Thanks a lot!

Anyone who has been scammed by them I wish you the best. I hope you get your money back.


help me nervous 4 years ago

i ve sign up there 2 days ago and get a free pdf book but after that thye send me a mail that they told me i need to pay 1euro with my paypal account but i don't have a paypal account.then i canceled my usenet.nl account and they send mea confirmition mail and also they told that my aggreement stiil valed for 14 days. is it a problem what shoul i do? please help me iam very nervous


help me nervous 4 years ago

by the way im talking about en.usenet.nl is there any usenet.nl else?


Ryan 4 years ago

@help me nervous: You don't have to be nervous. Probably 1 Euro from Paypal is charged to check if your account is valid. But if you already canceled and got a confirmation mail with the right cancelation date then everything will be okay. I think you can use this kind of trial for 14 days even if you already canceled it...


David 4 years ago

We need to shut these guys down!!


shawna 4 years ago

they is a rip off period straight ripp off


Bogdan 4 years ago

Are you joking? Of couse it is fake.


bicky 4 years ago

thanks for the warning! their offer & website look tempting, luckily i decided to google their credibility.

they won't be getting any €€'s from me, up yours suckers!


FarleyX 4 years ago

Yea, it sounds like Usenet.nl uses some really shady contract wording. Small print, misleading wording. From the complaints I've scanned from 20 months ago to now, it's the same thing: These guys are a RIPOFF.

Still, I gotta say, you guys haven't done your homework worth a damn. I didn't read every post, but my sampling showed everyone either saying "They stole 99€ !!!" or "Wow, thanks for warning me." Well, here's a new one for you.

When you give any business site your Paypal info while signing up for a free trial, be aware when your trial ends. Set a reminder program or alarm, whatever. When you have decided whether Usenet.nl has a lot of what you want to download or not, you are totally in control of your money. All you need to do is login to your Paypal account and click the "Profile" menu bar link, go down the menu to "More options". An entirely new page opens up on Paypal with a small menu bar to the left. Select the "My Money" button. To the right you will see information regarding your bank account, your credit/debit card(s), etc. You will notice near the bottom "My preapproved payments". Click update to the right of this. Every payment you have scheduled, every company you might be paying monthly, they are all listed. You Have the Power to Control Your Own Destiny. If you are nearing the end of a pending authorization waiting for the trial period to end, cancel it. Tired of being billed monthly, sending emails to the company and finally getting your service shutdown. End it by cancelling the service.

It ain't hard. Give it a try.


dewets 4 years ago

Thanks for this info. Was just what I needed, as they obviously were not replying to my 4th email to them...

Whacked their "preapproved" status from my paypal, so that's that...

It wasn't hard, and I feel I'm in control. Not some scammer hidden behind so-called "legislation" in some obscure little place somewhere...


Michael Chan 4 years ago

Thanks, your blog save me from this scam. Luckily i done my research


Phil Shard 4 years ago

Cheers guys you've just saved me £99 ta very much


parkersvx90210 4 years ago

Hey guys,

I'll admit, tonight I signed up for the 14-day free trial and just after I clicked the confirmation decided to do a little research (dumb!) After reading the comments on this site, I immediately cancelled my account and received a confirmation saying that "Your account will not be extended after you current term has run out. The anticipated termination date of your contract is 06/19/2012" I have heard mixed reviews from this site and horror stories of guys who cancelled their account and were still charged. I provided debit card information, so should I go to my bank and get a new card? Or will I be okay?


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Katty Spears 4 years ago from Anniston, Alabama

Check out Usenet @ http://www.ripoffreport.com/ and you will see where one person was charged twice for "supposedly" having two accounts and now out over $240.00!!


ss0718 4 years ago

how come these bastards aren't closed down yet??

you all saved me from this terrible freaking scam!

even their automated emails look suspicious...


Ron Major 4 years ago

@parkersvx90210: Everything will be okay if you have a confirmation e-mail for your cancellation. A lot of guys here forgot to cancel and wondered about getting a bill right after the free trial. In my opinion cases where people had to pay even after they cancelled in due time are very rare...

@ss0718: they aren't closed yet because they are no bastards. Most of the people complaining haven't read what they are siging up for. Chris Ken_L


Ron Major 4 years ago

... sorry, posted too fast. :D

I agree with Chris and Ken_L above (and other people with the same opinion I haven't seen in my short survey). I had a trial account from Usenet.nl last year and I had no problem to cancel.


Rob 4 years ago

Was about to sign up for the 'free' trial. Glad I found this site and read about the rip offs. I have been with Easynews for almost 7 years now and have never had any problems. It's about 10 bucks a month for a classic account. You can have monthly payments by credit card or pay for as much as you want with an old fashioned money order.


Sean 4 years ago

Thanks for the warning.

I was filling out the usenet registration form and was so very close to pressing submit. Just before I did I thought I'd do a quick search and came across your blog.

Keep up the good work - you're saving loads of people from being ripped off.

Thanks Again.


darius 4 years ago

what if I don't have a paypal? can usenet.nl also steal money from me?


Olavo 4 years ago

Almost signed up but I googled...

Thanks Bro


Wow 4 years ago

So what I'm reading is that, idiots, signed up for a 14 day trial that clearly stated they would be charged after 14 days if not cancelled. They then never cancalled and began crying when they got charged after 14 days?

WOW

Its like a gathering of stupidity here.


Arienne 4 years ago

I got scammed too! just signed up today they took 3euro's from my account so far. the credit card company say this cannot be recharged cause they delivered the goods.

I will cancel my credit card and get a new one with a new number so they can't charge me anymore. So for anyone who is still in their trial period. Cancel your credit card and get a new one.

I'll check out everythign before I buy stuff from now on.


Majordomo28 4 years ago

I suspect this may come as a surprise to you all. I have taken out a Usenet.nl subscription for 99euro, happily used all of the highspeed download quota and then renewed it. I am just coming to the end of my second subscription. I have been really pleased with the service, I have a hard drive full of good quality movies. I recently needed a music album for my daughter and found it straight away. I have even downloaded some applications I needed. I am sure every complaint above is a true and valid one however I do feel obliged, with not connection to the company, to put an experience forward that is moderately positive ..... Will I renew at the end of this subscription - probably not as I will use it as an opportunity to try another provider ..


Richard 4 years ago

Guys i just used the service as long as you cancel within the 14 days there should be no money lost except for the 1 euro registration fee but while reading all of these comments i just downloaded the 1 thing that i wanted and canceled immediately before further trouble


Anonymous 4 years ago

test


Anonymous 4 years ago

This is the USENET.NL location:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Via+Innocenzo+Capp...

"Traslocasa.it" is a company about moving house (basically they help you to move house, boxes, stuff, furnitures, etc.). Both addressed are equal

It seems that USENET.NL is a moving house company. LOL!

Enjoy guys.


anon 4 years ago

I just signed up for the free trial without checking to see if usenet.nl was a scam. I now see it is. I just checked my credit card and learned that usenet.nl charged me 3 euro even though on my invoices (under my account) it says nothing was debited. Anyway I have cancelled my credit card just in case.

I checked their customer care section about cancellation and it say:

"You can choose between the following options:

- Log into the member area, go to "My Account" and click on "Cancel"

- Simply use our online support form

Unfortunately, it is not possible to cancel an account by contacting our support hotline."

I've used their online support form twice to cancel my account and am waiting for news. I don't want to press the cancel button just in case I can't reutrn to the site. Have any of you successfully cancelled your account simple by using the online support form?


ianstien 4 years ago

usenet.nl. as the name state, they will use you and your money. SCAM! They are expecting me to log on to my email so that I can view their notice. The hell! I'm busy with other stuff. They are just concern with making money ripping off people.


Anono 4 years ago

Usenet.nl must go screw themselves! We don't have time for scammers like you, open your eyes!! If there's so many people complaining about your automated contract system then change it!!! We don't give a #%$% about your apologies, you are stealing peoples money no matter what b%#@sh&t you come up with!! I almost also got caught, thank goodness I googled Usenet.nl scam. I hope your company falls apart!! Go Tasbo and co.!


raul 4 years ago

Thanks for the info, i was opening one account, but after your info I am not going to.


ghost 4 years ago

usenet russian mafia linked dodgy pictures scumbags?the evidence appears to b leaning in this direction.


kailash 4 years ago

I also was about to sign up for the free trial, but got increasingly suspicious while reading their terms and conditions which you guys have now confirmed.

Thanks!


Bob 3 years ago

I beg to differ. I have used the service for two years and have been very satisfied. I'm able to download newer movies of my choise and audiobooks as soon as they are released -- and they don't send out alarms to copyright police, as some of the othr sources do. Stick with it for a while and learn how to use the service and you should be happy.


Denis 3 years ago

Hi all.

I canceled into 14 days but they already charged me for 99Euro.

But at least my payement info is bad so they cant remove money.

I subs. janv 8 2013 and canceled today janv 22. so 22-8=14days in my country.

They tried to charge me 99 euro 21 janv 2013 !!!!! the invoice written janv 23 2012 !!!!! what the fuck. They charge 2 days before the 14 days date !!!!!

There is from them :

When signing up on our website you enter the so called Free Trial Period which lasts for 14 days. This period can be used to check out our software and download more than 300 GB for free. If you do not want this trial period to be converted into a paid contract it must be canceled within this period.


wanderingmon 3 years ago

thank you


mehmet yeşipınar 3 years ago

Usenet.nl stole 99 euores from my paypal account too.

I complain to paypal.

waiting for result.


funkoligy 3 years ago

Thanks for this Blog it has saved my wallet and sanity I was about to join when I said I would google review of this site .Once again thanks


madguy 3 years ago

Guys!!

Thx for the information, I was about to sign up to download something I couldn't find anywhere else...

Good to know that

USENET.NL is a scam!!!


cushde 3 years ago

hi i did this, then they stole 99 euros from my paypal and paypal have refunded me 1 and a half days later. file a dispute/claim for unauthorised use and im now going to phone them up and tell them that their supervisor does not exist and tell the robbers thanks for my refund that i was told i wouldn't get! this is the way to get your money back through paypal


male' 3 years ago

usenet.nl is like a scam. they fuckinhg tried to charge me 99euros. luckily for me the payment failed becos my bank does not allow recurring charges unless approved by the card holder. i went to usenet, logged in and cancelled it with soe difficulty. the cancellation i had to try like 3 times. first i was getting error message, thirt time luckily i got cancellation confirmation message and an email from them confirming cancellation. i don't think anybody should chage a person 9euros like that, as if i owe it to them. thieves !!! but they couldn't rob me. suckers.


deewakar 3 years ago

I am also a victim. They charged 99euro from paypal account.


Kez 3 years ago

I'm so glad I found this page! I was a bit suspicious of them and before signing up for it I thought I'd google.

Just as I suspected, scammers!

Keep up the good work, good luck to all those who were ripped off and thank you so much, Tasbo, for starting this page!


Raven 3 years ago

Hello, I had the same issue, did my registration for some file I wanted to download from usenet.nl on 29.04.2013. On 14.05.2013 i was seeing my PayPal account with 99.96 eu shorter ... Immediately file a report for unathorized transfer via PayPal form. They sorted it out very quickly this morning i already had my money back. So guys DO NOT wait file you report as soon as posible !


John Studley 3 years ago

Thanks for the warning guys. I nearly made the mistake of signing up with these rogues. Lucky I Googled and found this blog first. May they burn in hell.


missjustice 3 years ago

Just to give you all a warning:

I was charged 99 euros for their crap service and these thieves refused to refund me. I managed to claim this back through Paypal, this was in 2011.

Today I received a demand letter to my home stating that I owe them 105.96 euros because they receieved a charge back, and they insist that I pay them 99.96 euros for this plus 6.00 euros for a reminder fee.

Apparently, they tried to charge me again after 2 years, even though I still have the cancellation email, and the email from them confirming that they had removed my details from their systems as I initially requested.

I have changed my banking details since then and my paypal details, but think if I had not, they would have charged my account to cover their charge back loss.

To send a letter to my home is a step too far in my book, but thankfully they have provided a contact name, their banking details (where they want my payment made to) and a full German address, telephone number and email address.

I will now forward this info to the authorities in my country and let them deal with these fools.

Just wanted to alert you guys to the fact that they are relentless and will stop at nothing so watch your back and protect your hard earned cash...


donald 3 years ago

We need to declare war on usenet.nl, get rid off of this website once and for all. Ho, knights from all over the web, put your armors on and go fighting the beast !


John 3 years ago

Fortunately I didn't have funds in my account for Usenet to steal, now they have debt collectors sending me letters and making idle threats asking for over 150 EUR. I haven't used their service once and wasn't aware I'd be charged for a year after the trial ended. Beware.

If they think they're getting any money from me they've got another thing coming, scamming bastards.


Dudeface 3 years ago

Hi John, what's the outcome of your case? I have the same situation, the collection agency they sold the 'debt' to tesch-inkasso are claiming i owe them 189 euro, although they are based in Germany and I am not. I don't know what powers they have to retrieve this fraudulent debt from me.


UsenetNLVictim 3 years ago

Hey Folks.

I'm trying to encourage some of the MANY victims of Usenet.NL spread across the internet to come together here on this thread so we can share information on the fight against their deceptive practices.

Not only have they been ripping people off at point of sale, but they are now pursuing those who got their money back (eg through Paypal or credit card) for the original cash plus legal costs by sending threatening letters!

So.....HELLO! :)


Usenet Victim2 3 years ago

Glad to see that I'm not the only one.

I had a Usenet account for about a year. OK so I paid for it and was not too unhappy. I then cancelled my account, or so I thought. Two months later my credit card was reissued and of course the expiry date changed. That meant they could not take anymore automated withdrawals. Over a year later I got a threatening letter from a debt collector. I contacted them and explained. They were not interested. In fact they had another unsuccessful go at obtaining funds from the card. They are now threatening me with legal action to recover their funds. This is going to be interesting because I will be happy to have my day in court. As I see it they will do one of two things, realise they are wasting their time and walk away or start the legal collection process.

Or take me to court....The print outs from this site should make interesting reading in my defence submission!

Does anyone have a similar experience or am I one of the first to have got this far?


Craig 3 years ago

I've also had a legal collections letter, can't see what they can do to me really


jimmy 2 years ago

And me 24 months after paypal refunded their attempt at 99 euros i now have a bill for 189 and it has been passed to a german debt collecting company


cocoy2014 2 years ago

I've also had a collection letter. First from usenet then second one after 10 days came from a german collection company. Anybody responded to these letters? Did you go to court because of this? Many thanks.


UsenetNLVictim 2 years ago

Nah I've just ignored their threats and it seems others have done the same. The debt collection company sent a pathetic reply to my letter to them in which I called them out and demanded that they either cease and desist or take me to court here in the UK. They're not worth spending your time on: it's just a fishing expedition and they know it.

Any court case would have to take place in the country that you clicked the mouse button from, and they'd be risking both contempt of court and harassment. In most countries it's illegal to pursue debts that are disputed.


Philanda 2 years ago

So, after the 3rd letter and then a few emails from Teschinkasso (debt collectors for Usenet.nl) I thought I'd check the web for any threads .... and here I am - another Usenet victim. Initially I argued with Teschinkasso and explained I had got Paypal to arbitrate and cancel the contract with Usenet but since I found this thread I just accused them of pulling a scam and will ignore any further emails. Still, I would want to be sure there are no cross-European laws that let these bastards screw up my credit rating in the UK - has anyone looked into that ?


Tiffany 2 years ago

I'm going to try it cause it sounds good and there is a torrent i want bad that won't work with bittorrent somehow. but I'll sign up for monthly instead of yearly, and I'll cancel before the trial period if i don't like it. Maybe take a screen shot of the cancellation request. Any other suggestions on things i can do to show that i cancelled? If they are a scam i could post a screen shot of the cancellation and the credit card bill side by side on their blog.


UsenetNLVictim 2 years ago

Tiffany,

Do not sign up to them: they cannot be trusted to play by the rules regardless of what you do. There are lots of far, far superior usenet providers out there that have free trials or very cheap (as little as 2.5 euros a month) subs. Try sunny usenet, usenet bucket..or if you need an easy experience with less setup for usenet newbies easynews is good.


Cathy D 2 years ago

I have been getting threatening letters too off tesch-inkasso and im up to my 4th and they are still threatening. I originally payed 99 euros even though I had not agreed to annual payment but a monthly pay as you go. I was unhappy but let it go as couldn't be bothered chasing them but im sure they hope that is what everyone will do. A year later they tried to charge me again because I had not cancelled but I had already instructed pay-pal to never allow them to take money from my account again. So know they've passed my debt on but they will never get another penny out of me. I wonder how many people just pay because they are scared? I am prepared to chance to see how far they go. They are just ripping people off and if it ever gets too court it will get thrown out. Cost them more money!!


Luiz Fernando 2 years ago

Well people, for na eighty three years shmuck I should get a kick on my behind. Just got ripped off 99 euro. I do suggest that anyone that fell on Usenet NL scam, cancel your credit card so they will not be able to debit on your card anymore. Probably I'm saying by by as of now to my 99 euro. Live and learn.


Redacted 22 months ago

We are writing to you again today with regard to the above matter, but this time with a good reason behind.

Our client is currently entitled to a payment from you for the sum of 167,61 EUR. Most of this sum does, however, stem from extra costs due to the delay in payment, reminders, interest, account fees as well as the costs for our claim. To bring this matter to a close our client is, after discussion with us, willing to cancel a large part of these costs for you.

The condition for this, however, is that you make a one-off compromise settlement payment of only

134,00 EUR

to be transferred no later than 26.01.2015.

Please use the following payment methods:

PayPal account

paypal@tesch-inkasso.de

If you again choose not to make a payment by the given deadline, therefore demonstrating an unwillingness to pay, we will, on behalf of our client, initiate legal proceedings for payment collection. With view to the offer made here it would be in your interest to avoid the extra costs associated with the resulting legal proceedings.

After expiration of the deadline, the compromise settlement will become invalid and the full payment will again be due to be paid immediately.

The matter, therefore, now lies with you. However, we hope that you appreciate the creditor’s willingness to compromise and that you will make a timely settlement payment.

Yours faithfully

R. Weidmann

Tesch Inkasso Forderungsmanagement GmbH

Registered legal services provider for debt collection services pursuant to Section 10 of the Legal Services Act (Rechtsdienstleistungsgesetz)

Registry Court Cologne Reg. No. HRB 39598, Managing Directors: Lena Nowak, Robert Weidmann, VAT ID NO. DE 215 665 473


W.Henley 18 months ago

I have been a monthly subscriber to Usenet.nl for about ten years. No problems. Not one.

It is a unique service..find a better one if you don't like them.


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Hoover1979 18 months ago

I cancelled the so called "risk free" trial on the 22nd may 2015 2 days after making the monumental mistake of trying it out.

yesterday these rogues sent me an email stating they are still planning on debiting 99 euros ($141,00AUD) from my account which will overdraw it so much the bank might take legal action against me. I sent an email to paypal asking them to block this rogue operator from accessing my paypal account. I hope that works.

The individuals behind this obvious scam should be facing criminal and civil legal action for their blatant theft of peoples money. They ARE criminals and need to be treated as such.


Mark 17 months ago

my wife And i were both users of usenet for a Number of years, due to the amount of viruses And the fact that we had changed to imac computers, we decided to cancel our memberships. We did this , later to our surprise, usenet attempted to take money From our accounts. My wife cancelled the payments, which usenet again tried to take again. Now, i am being threatened with debt collection letters. They are now demanding 175€, which i Will never pay. I repliek to their correspondente, explaining that i owes them nothing And that we had sign out of the memberships using the proper method. This morning, i received another e mail From a debt collection agency. I was never really satisfied with their service, the music was full of trojan horse infections, which is not satisfactory. I am certainly never going to pay this as i dont owe it And in my opinion, this is a scam. Beware people, there are thousands of people all saying the same things From all over the world. ITS a con!!!!!!


cheng 16 months ago

Hi,

I am so stupid that I didn't check whether usenet.nl is trustable or not before I subscribe their free trial.

After I found that they are scam, I cancel the subscription from account as well as send online support form to them . Even I cancel my paypal preapproved payments.

I cancel the subscription within 14 days (actually is first day) . I am worried about whether they still charge 99 euro even I cancel subscription within 14 days....

Anyone who has this experience please tell me. Thank you.


Hi 7 months ago

I can't send them any cancellation requests because the contact form send page keeps saying my password is wrong. Kind of strange since my password works properly when I login into the site. Anyone can help? I'm still in the free trial period and I don't want to pay for that scam.


Miranda 7 months ago

I signed up for the free trial in order to access a document. The link didn't work so I tried to cancel. In the end I went into my PayPal account and cancelling from within that. I thought that was the end of the matter until I started receiving e mails saying I owed 69 euros. I wrote back in dispute and said they wouldn't receive a penny from me. They wrote back again threatening to up the charges if I didn't pay. I'm now getting e mails and letters from TeschInKasso and hte bill has almost doubled to 134.31 euros. They can whistle for it.


mjs2020 7 months ago

TLDR: usenet is a scam as they make it impossible to cancel.

Same story as Miranda here. Signed up for a few minutes months ago and then tried to cancel (the system is crap anyhow). The cancel button did not work and nobody ever picked up the phone for customer support and there was no way to contact via email so I just blocked them on paypal.

Now I got an email from TeschInKasso too and just planning to ignore them. My partner used to live in Germany and it looks like this kind of lawyer scam is frequent.


Alchemistry 7 months ago

Okay...nothing new here. Same old same old. Signed up for the trial. Found the service lacking, at best. Tried to cancel. Couldn't figure out how as the website is so damn frustrating. Thought I had canceled, only to be billed $99. Luckily I went into Paypal and canceled the automatic payment so they got no money from me. Received my first letter yesterday stating I must pay. After a lot of persistence from me, I was finally able to speak to an actual human being and cancel the service. They claim it's canceled (we'll see in a year) but that I must pay the $99 for the current subscription even though I only used the service for one day and actually thought I had canceled. Too bad for me according to them. So now I see I have collection letters ad nausem to look forward to in my future. I'm curious....why can't I go into my account and put a new name, address and email to at least not have to deal with these buttholes. Reports to the various credit agencies are not something I look forward to. As Cher would say...."If I could turn back time..." *sigh


Noraaa 6 months ago

Hey guys! While I was entering my information to sign up for this scam, my bank immediately shut my card down. Like so fast that the website said my credit card is invalid and it never went through. I never used any of their services because my free trial technically never started (or so I thought) but now I'm getting emails and letters from them asking for a ridiculous amount of money. I was never charged and they don't have my information but should I be worried about a lawsuit or going to the collection? I can't afford to pay the like $200 they're asking and on top of that, I never even used any service. Please let me know, I'm really worried


Filip 6 months ago

I just downloaded their software, just to see do they have everything as they claim. Unfortunately, they do not. Half of staff I was been looking for does not even exist! Yes, the download speed is high; it goes up to 8 MB/s. However, the limit that they give is hideously laughable. No, I did not give my credit card I am not crazy to do that. I used a fake E-mail address to fool them so I could create a fake account via their software that I downloaded from another alternative site. That company is nothing but a bunch of liars, there is no lossless discography either. All that I download was a bunch of mp3 files, not lossless. I am going to delete this software from my PC because this company is nothing but a bunch of liars.

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