Just set up my PayPal and looking to purchase a very low cost site. Advice any one. HubPages has it's promise of money after about 5000 hubs, if I live long enough, so i need to look around.
If you write quality Hubs on the right topics, you don't need 5000 of them.
You've been in marketing, you should be able to work out what sells.
How about 4,999?
Seriously, let's say I enjoy writing organically so I wont do ipods, kitchen utensils, sexy indian movie stars etc.
Well...don't rule out the kitchen utensils yet. I am all for SaladMaster. Just not joined yet.
My real question is will anyone who is in the small to medium web site business share some hints. I mean someone with a clean honest site. No ponzi, no scam, no hyip. I've been researching sites for a long time now but before making decision I'm open to some cool advice from the HP community.
Sexy Indian movie stars get lots of traffic but don't make any money.
Seriously though, if you're going to say "I only want to write about things I like" then don't expect to earn big bucks. You can't have it both ways.
I write about things I like - some of them make money, some don't. If you seriously want to earn money from a website, then you have to choose a subject that's commercial, whether you like it or not.
I have some dance websites. There isn't much competition, but then the market is very small too, so they don't make much money. I run them because I enjoy it - but that's a choice I make.
Lets put it this way. We are talking about two different but related issues here:
1. How to make money on hubpages.
2. How to make money on a low cost website that you own.
Let's begin with HubPages. a great site. SEO and all. I'm a bit new to the internet marketing game but I am willing to explore options. But my first choice is to write what I know and love. You would be surprised at the topics of my highest earning hubs (by earning I'm talking peanuts money really, but by the time i reach 5000 hubs things might improve). I am willing to do the keyword research and write for the market. I have also done a few hubs based on trends and news, preparing one right now on Obama. But prefer organic traffic for writing what I know and love.
Back to my present search for holy grail site. Well I have spent sleepless nights looking at many sites for sale. But I'm open to ideas. I believe that internet is new real estate.
Where did you see a mention of 5000 hubs? Or how did you come to that conclusion?
C'mon darkside, you r much smarter than this question?
Notice I said 'about'. Just an overstatement. Born out of frustration with low traffic. That's why I'm so keen to spend a little for the real deal right now. And I mean very $ little.
BTW I'm on my third 30 in 30 attempt.
Did 23 the second time when aiming for the 100 in 60. But seeing a few more clicks.
Guess I should have listened to you.
If you don't mind me asking, how much is low cost?
I have other sites, but HubPages is low risk and no cost. The ad impressions are split 60/40 but if you're not making much money on HubPages it's not going to be an improvement if you do the same thing elsewhere. Also, if your traffic is low on HubPages, it's a good chance that it won't improve elsewhere.
Think about what you're writing. You've got the talent, you just need to work on the topic.
If your main goal is to entertain and engage an audience, keep doing what you're doing. If you want to make money though, you'll need to focus in on a couple of areas.
Skip the opinion pieces, and go more for the Information (knowledge) and Education (how to) topics.
Do your own hosted blog, but my suggestion is pick a niche topic of an area of interest that you love.
excelent advise, I am trying and listening
Thanks for great ideas.
You are in essence describing my goal here.
And i am willing to learn, though I'm an old fool in many other ways.
People out there are selling AdSense niche websites with spun articles.
Earnest pointed me to a very attractive a site with software which has some potential.
I have been spending sleepless nights looking at what the brokers have to offer. Most are too expensive for me. Want to begin very very low cost (if I'm buying a site with traffic I cant spend more than $200) and grow the business over time. Yea embarrassing but...
My plan is:
1. Establish at least 3 sites (buy or create) that I own, specifically to make money.
2. Continue to build up my blogs on free sites like hub pages writing all kinds of articles so long as content is rich. Expect both organic and targeted traffic.
3. Research and enter eBay auction business.
Guess that summarises whats going through my head.
Got to qualify everything by saying I've been on HubPages for only 4 months so there is so much to learn here. And give traffic time to grow.
Well you have a plan and that's great deal than most peple start with - myself included! I have been researching the website buying/selling business myself with a view to selling some sites but what I have discovered to date - is that there is an awful lot of crap out there - as you already noticed!
Unfortunately at $200 your budget is too low - the standard formula - and sites are selling for this now - is that an Adsense or ebay/amazon affiliate site making money with organic (search) traffic will sell for around 10X monthly earnings - a site making $1/day - will sell for $300.
A brand new site I would value at basically the value of the unique content at 1c/word (because that's what I can buy it for) I will pay for genuine age not for PR (it doesn't matter) and particularly for good backlinks. I don't pay for pretty themes - they rarely convert well.
Be wary of eBay at the moment - on 1 Oct they are chaning their affiliate program over to a pay per click model - a lot of us are going to lose money over it - some are losing a business over it and are looking for another affiliate.
If you are considering eBay NEVER buy a domain with a trademark in the domain name (there are lot for sale at the moment because of their recent change in policy) - its probably a bad idea anyways for any site you are going to use for affiliate sales.
I have recently started a new site which is focussed on giving beginners tips to making residual income online you might find it useful
Hitting nail on the head. Great advice.
I need to stay out of religion forum and research all these ideas.
Would you believe it, I have decided to get some training, the cautious route. I have signed up with the Keyword Academy using your link. I guess I have learned a lesson from my forex misadventures (read the hub http://hubpages.com/hub/Finally-Deleted-My-Forex-Blog). Don't reinvent the wheel, get mentorship and training.
Look out for the hubs and forum posts along the way.
Thanks again everyone for great advice.
I guess that Keyword Academy was already a credible org in my mind because i recalled one of the big kahunas in Hub Challenge recommending it.
My site cost me $299US. I did the whole thing myself. You need absolutely NO HTML knowledge at all and there are no hidden charges or additional costs.
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What I advised to gor a company who offers websites for small businesses.
As then you can have a security of your site and also whenever there is a need of updation you can have at it a relatively less price.
You did it yourself and it cost you $299? You were robbed. I set up my websites myself and it cost me nothing (apart from the hosting and the domain names - less than $100 for a year)
Use Google to search for buy and sell sites lots places selling and even existing biz sites good luck!
That would be good advice Dame.
I would also suggest that glendon find out first what server side tools and software he needs to do the job.
Glendon there is a lot to know if you want the site to be flexible for business growth.
I have a site that cost me about $100 It has the works including wordpress, and cpanel with the works and heaps of bandwidth. The real work is in finding out what you need. If you would like to have a look at what is offered Google "your software website."
Hey earnest, I am looking at Your software Website. Is it for real? Money? what about the details like hosting, domain etc.
Earnest, I went to this site and looked it all over and watched the viedo. It does look promising. I am considering this.
Jon in Tennessee
Thanks guys. I have been spending some time looking at people who broker web sites.
Anything good seems to be over my budget, but somewhere out there...
No need Gc, I try not to benefit from any advice I give here, just a thing I have about hubpages I guess. but it does have enough facilities server side to run a business providing it is not too big.
If you have a big list, you can host them on 1shoppingcat, but it costs, and rises with the number of subscribers. My daughters 40,000 on subscribers are hosted there.
(assuming you need a shopping cart.)
If you are sending a newsletter you can buy that "surge" bandwidth when it is needed. I hope this helps.
Here is a direct link to their hosting information.
Finding a niche website that you enjoy is not difficult!
I buy up profitable domains 5-7 a week.
pop up a wordpress install, 1 intro post (seo optimized) adsense and related aff links.
I get back to them for real development when i can
I only pick topics i enjoy or am knowledgeable about
Most make up their initial costs (domain, hosting percentage, time) within 2 weeks
If you dont want to go the research and dev route
try sites like this one
Just NEVER ever trust their posted stats, alexa rankings etc..as there are tons of ways to inflate those even when they are legitimate.
Do the research yourself
You need to diversify from HubPages to make serious money. If you are trying to build a mini e-commerce site (or any site for that matter) try this free content management system called Drupal that makes building a website a breeze. godaddy will install it on a basic hosting plan for free. Cost will be $65-80 per year.
Drupal has every functionality you can imagine, shopping cart, credit card payment gateway, paypal gateway, adsense, amazon module, forums, blog engines, ...... all FREE!
It does require you a bit of technical knowledge but once you get your head around it the speed with which you can churn out full blown ecommerce webites is unbelievable.
I recently created a site in 65$/year in less than 10 days! I am a software programmer though.
Let me know if you have any questions!
Don't necessarily go for Low Cost Web Sites. Sometimes, the service you get isn't so professional.
How about trying FREE Websites for now (Sub domains). A few Hubbers have given you names above.
The good thing about this is, they are so easy to create and can be published immediately. Also, if you choose to, you can upgrade for about $30 - $40 a year. Website stays the same but you'll have your own Domain.
(Pardon me if I've over explained. lol)
I have 2 Free Websites, that have Adsense and Paypal.
that is not an example of a of a subdomain
or even www.glendoncaba.blogspot.com
Its not even a little bit suggestable to pursue any "free" services if your looking to build a real business - 10/year for a domain - 60-120 yr for hosting - that is chump change if your committed to creating a real internet based business
Thanks every one. Well I wont learn to swim unless i dive in.
Hi Glen - go check out startlogic.com - unlimited everything for less than $6 per month - as well - sign up as an affiliate and anyone you sign up under your link you make $100 - I did it and spend the money I earn buying up domains. - As well, if you are looking for quality sites to just pick up and run with hit me up I can easily point you in the right directions - let me know the niche you want to start with.
My website is with intuit - i have a hub reviewing it if you want a look at what you get.
Also i've just found another place that looks promising called DevHub. I was going to try it out today and see what it's like.
At first i could not decide for want of real testimonies form trusted people. Now i cant decide because so many good persons are giving me great ideas.
I'm checking each site. Will make a decision by next week.
Some of you guys could earn money mentoring many many persons.
Havern't seen you around for a while. (But then again, I'm not here much these days)
And here's some advice for free. (I'm unsure whether you wanted to buy a ready made website from someone, or buy the ingredients, and cook your own.
I'm assuming the latter.)
You can't go wrong if you
1. buy your domain name from namecheap.com
2. Get web hosting from hostgator.com
Yes, there are thousands of other places that are good too, and you can use them if you wish. But these are the ones I recommend.
You can then set up a wordpress website.
This can be installed from the control panel of your hostgator hosting account. They have support to help you.
You'l have a choice of thousands of themes for your website.
I recommend a theme called atahualpa because it is easy to set up in many different ways.
In fact,I use it on my own website at http://TheInternetBloke.com
Theme available from http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/atahualpa
You'll have to spend some time learning how to set everything up.
But there are plenty of great, free tutorials available on the internet.
Caroline Middlebrook has produced a good one.
You can get it free at
http://www.caroline-middlebrook.com/blo … -sites-wp/
Go to it.
And let me know how you get on.
Oi eric I just subscribed. Can I have my ferret now please? I want one of those mini ones and I shall call it Eeee
Can't help with your Q Glen - I'm worse than useless with websites
Extrapolating current earnings. When you get to my age you want real action.
Are you taking into account the escalation of earnings as time goes on? What I mean is - good Hubs earn faster the longer they're in existence.
Certainly O belly dancing one!
The figure 5,000 is not meant to be taken literally, I could have written 50 million.
Looking at the rate of growth I knew that I wanted a faster growing crop on my own farm while I worked on the 'sharecropping' (to borrow from another hubber) deal over here. No disrespect to Hubpages at all. Just need to add to the mix.
Do you have your own websites that earn passive income?
Are you saying that it is impossible to buy a site with traffic and income?
As far as online marketing is concerned I'm still a newbie, so let's see what Keyword Academy will make of me, and vice versa.
Yes, I have two websites earning passive income, though they're only making the impressive total of about $100 a month. Of course they're not completely passive - I occasionally do updates or add the odd bit of new material. However they're not blogs where I have to post every day.
You're getting two different types of advice on this thread - one is how to start your own site from scratch, the other is where to go to buy an existing one (website brokers). I started my sites from scratch.
I'm sure it is possible to buy a ready-made profitable site, but if it's any good, it's not going to be cheap. It's like buying a house - if you see a bargain, it's bound to have something wrong with it.
Congrats! Especially if you r still on learning curve, making $100 a month is doing great. Just keep repeating what you are doing and soon you'll be at $500 per month.
You guys r all inspiring me to go on.
I realise that from day one my problem would be how much money do I have to invest. If the concept is good I suppose I could find a friend or two to join me in a venture, but right now it's a shoestring budget.
From what I've seen of the Keyword Academy and Courtney Tuttle, you will learn a lot.
I saw a video he made of when he was doing his 100 hubs in 30 days challenge and it gave me a whole different perspective of how to do things. Previously I had been using a shotgun, Courtney handed me a sniper rifle and the scope and showed me how to use it.
Thank you for the advice you give to Glendoncaba.
I'm trying to find out how to make a good webpage and I think your suggestions are clear enough even for an ignoramus like me, so I'll take advantage of them. Thank you very much!
No, Total fluke, just used a subdomain service that i figured would illustrate the idea best.
Im off to check out the site now though.
Buying a readymade site sounds way more promising than it is, as has been pointed out, the pages sale cost is based on estimations of its profit potential.
But those of us who sell premade sites, can use all sorts of devious means to inflate traffic, like buying junk traffic, so those stats are meaningless.
We also usually have an entire network of sites that feed traffic to our new sites, once they are no longer our site that support may disappear.
When you have a page that creates a solid daily income there is really no logically reason to sell it
In my opinion you pay way to much for "potential" when buying pre-mades.
With the same budget, you could outsource all the design and content develoment and with proper research create a much better site
I hate the concept of paying for something like keyword academy
after trial,, try thirtydaychallenge.com (free)
and shoemoney.com 's training course (google it)
both send you lots of upsells but the info is spot-on and written by very successful examples in the industry, shoemoney is well proven
Yea sunforged, I'm very very wary of site vendors because I know traffic can be inflated.
I understand how you feel about Keyword Academy, but if I may borrow a lesson from nature, sometimes we have to hold babies hands until they have the confidence to step out on their own.
In the ocean of competing ideas I opted for the tried and true school type approach. But as you are aware I have 30 days to check it out.
Thanks for the other links.
ive done further research into keyword academy and have only seen great reviews.
i think ill grab a trial too, im always open for new ideas.
i already have a sniper rifle, but maybe i can still get a better scope
Darkside, do you know courtneys user name here, id like to see examples of his work
I've been providing advice to people about this topic for around 10 years. Have a look at my hubs.
Look at my website - link at the top of my profile.
there's lots of free info there.
And a book that contains everything that people should know before setting up a website - but which nobody ever tells you.
There are many companies specially in Orange County, California who offered cheap websites especially for small and medium companies.
Just go for the company who are offering website design for small and medium businesses.
This way you can get cheap websites and professional services also.
Its so easy... You can find free hosting services in internet like 110mb.com and etc.
Go to pool.com
Its a site where you can 'auction-style' bid on websites that are getting deleted everyday. That way those sites are already SEO-ed and you don't need to start from scratch.
If you are just trying to buy your own site, go to namecheap.com as they have 9$ websites.
For a host, try itsjusthosting.com (they are freakin awesome) they fix stuff for my site that isn't even their responsibility! I love them.
Don't buy any site that is not already indexed in google.
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