America; 2012 Republic or Democracy?

America and our Pledge to our Flag

The Union - America North and South Becoming One

American Government - Republic? Democracy?

I would like to start off by saying that many people, not only Americans but people in other countries are confused at the differences in our Government names. According to who is President, as we have a choice in choosing who it will be.

We The People, do not actually "choose" the president because we are a Republic. We vote, and try to sway votes to our Electoral College, as they are the ones who we wait on to decide who we have persuaded to choose the President. (or I can say this is our belief system if you are not a conspiracy theorist.)

One thing that I find bothersome, is a few years back I knew a little girl who was learning politics in school, and when I asked her who her choice was, she named who she thought was best. I asked her, well, "do you know you have more choices than the Republican or the Democrat to vote for?" She looked at me like, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I said to her, that here in America, there are more choices of who to vote for than just two, the Republican person running or the Democratic person who was running. We also can even write in our own vote! I told her, I could write in YOUR NAME! If you were of voting age, you could write in MY NAME! She looked at me in awe, and wanted to learn more. While I said that with a smile, she really wanted to know more, by telling her I had freedom to write HER name in, made her eager to learn more!

Her father was nearby, and listened in, and later thanked me for going beyond the school's narrow mindedness and enlightening her to the possibilities that we can have more than TWO choices! I was glad to know there was a parent out there open minded enough to allow his daughter to have her mind broadened with more options than what they were given to her.

I told her, it would be nice if she raised her hand and asked her teacher to elaborate on the other choices! That would most certainly challenge the teacher as they are told not to tell this to the children, and as I looked with her though her school book NO OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES WERE LISTED! It sort of angered me as we are allowed to vote for an Independent. I explained to her that an Independent would be if someone didn't get nominated, that they could be anything from a Republican, Democrat, even a Socialist or Communist! That when she was of age, these things SHOULD STILL be listen on the ballot when she goes to vote and she would be able to choose one of those even if there was no name attached to it.

Sadly most parents don't sit down with their children and go into their options or teach them beyond what school would. Her father like it that I had brought to her attention that she should always ask questions, and it was ok to challenge her teacher to give her more information than just that tid-bit they'd gotten. Of course all the children apparently loved the little "mock election" they held at school. I expressed to her before she picked one, to learn about them, their life, their values and if she agreed with them or not. Not to just vote for the most handsome, or best dressed or any other physical feature. That it did not matter what our President looked like, as long as they held the values that SHE believed to be the best, and of course what would be the best in the NEXT election which at her age 4 years might seem a long time, but I reminded her, that it could creep up quicker as she got older! So it was best to stay informed, even when there was no election process going on at the time. (I didn't want to overwhelm her with the smaller elections, as she seemed too interested in learning about the President, not proposals, as knowing me, I would eventually get to that with her, but then was not the time.)

While children are eager learners, some adults are not!

Yes, many adults are not quite as eager to learn or open minded to hear another candidates point of view.They have their minds set on who they are already going to vote for.

I once heard a man say, women shouldn't ever be allowed to vote because they tend to vote for the most handsome, or best dressed, and most soft spoken, as who wants a harsh sounding mean President!

I quickly recanted that to him, saying since Dad, you were the one to teach me politics at such an early age, what if I were to run for President someday, you would hope that the people would make an informed choice, and not vote for me just because I was a female, but because I was informed and gave the people the best answers I could, so I could do the best at running the country.

Although in reality, I would not want that responsibility, but if I had it, things would most certainly be different.


Wy We Want to Remain a Republic

Simplifying the Difference of a Republic & Democracy

saw the question asked:
Is it real Democracy in the US?

The person elaborated with; In US, a very dominant population is against the factories which produce weapons! Being a democratic country, why US people are not successful in stopping the nurseries which promote terrorism and war all around the world? Is there a real democracy in US?

While I wanted to answer a more simplified answer than what was given space for, it said "Make a hub about it." So, here is the simplified answer to the person who questioned.

  • First of all, there was more than one thing that needed to be addressed.

I am not in agreement that there is a dominance in factories that produce weapons.
I would much rather say, that the Democrats, have instilled into the minds of the young, (And obviously other parts of the world.) that if there are weapon factories, it is promoting violence. I do not agree with that. It is the media who tend to only show that one horrible incident that a child got a hold of a weapon (a gun per se, as a weapon could be almost anything.) and have accidentally killed or hurt someone.

In 99% of those cases, the child was not taught gun safety, nor was the child taught WHY a weapon should be in the home, and that they are most certainly NOT allowed to touch it.
RARELY, is it shown in our news, where a life was saved, a family was saved from an intruder! In fact, sadly some states still have a law that makes the intruder the good guy and the person protecting their home, the bad guy. It is called "Duty to Retreat." That means if someone breaks into a home, the owner is to get out before the intruder can get them. They are to run, and leave their belongings to the thief. Not standing at all by our Constitution. BUT it can be appealed and taken to a higher court (The Supreme Court) and fought for the right to the United States Constitution. (i.e. See movie called: People vs Larry Flint.)

(Refer to our 2nd Amendment to our Constitution. Our Right to Bear Arms.)

I moved away from the North, and now live in the South, where there are more people who own guns than people who do not. The crime rate is much lower. There also is no "Duty to Retreat" law. As a single girl alone in my home, if anyone breaks in, I do not have to try to search for a way out and run away from my home, I can protect myself and my home, as well as my belongings, and yes, and I was recently advised by my local STATE Sheriff to stand by my Constitutional right as my life has been threatened.

  • Now, to answer the rest of your question,we are not a Democracy, we are a Republic. If you have not already, please scroll up and read what is on the American Flag in the first photo.

As an American I take a bit of offense to your saying: "why US people are not successful in stopping the nurseries which promote terrorism and war all around the world?

America is not the World Police, nor should America be held responsible for stopping the nurseries which promote terrorism, and war all around the world! (The person who asked this question)

-Your country is listed as Pakistan, and would you like it if our country came to yours and changed your way of life?

Made you live as we do?

Made you dress as we do?

Raise your children with our beliefs, make "Christians" out of you rather than forcing you to be Muslims?

http://www.infopak.gov.pk/structure_government.aspx


In Pakistan, they MUST be Muslim, one cannot pick and choose a faith. Because you claim to be a Democracy, and your hierarchy is broken, and when it gets to that point, your Constitution says:

  • "he chairman of the Senate, under the constitution, is next in line to act as president should the office become vacantand until such time as a new president can be formally elected."

After reading my answer to why we are a Republic and not a Democracy, please refer to my chart below on the hierarchy of our election system below, until a new President can be elected into office. We leave no stone unturned.

Just because we might have a Democrat for a President now and again doesn't change our Government.
Even though they have different views on things, it does not mean they don't have to confer with each other in order to make a change.
They do. Look into "bipartisan policy" as we have both Republicans and Democrats making decisions together, but sadly we are being pushed into a Democracy, but hopefully the Republicans will rise up and try to stop the atrocity, as it's a step in the direction of other Governmental systems such as Socialism and Communism, and if they get their way, and have the One World Government that is planned, then what is that called? When ONE runs a Government? Could it be Totalitarianism or Communism? Our rights would be stripped. As we see in other countries now.

I just would like to re-word a bit and maybe make it more simple for people who do not understand the difference. When the other answer used the word "mob" it might be easier to understand "Majority Rule" which is NOT the way America runs our Government.

  • BREAKING IT DOWN:
  • In a FULL Democracy where majority rules, everyone in my neighborhood could take a vote and say "You cannot have blue shutters, they must be purple with yellow polka-dots." Then I would HAVE TO CHANGE IT! While certain subdivisions or communities live under that sort of rule, we have the option to live there or NOT to live there.
  • In a FULL Republic, the people could say "We want you to have an all white house with NO COLORS on your shutters." I have the option to bring the people in my community/town etc. to a town meeting and stand up and state my case WHY I don't want my house to be all one color! I have the opportunity to try to convince them WHY. For an instance, I could say; When I was a child, my house was all one color and I was very sad there, and now I would like to live in a house with pretty green shutters because green makes me feel more at ease, and calm, as it matches my nice green yard, and the beautiful surrounding trees! I believe my home accents nature well, I hope that you see my point and I hope everyone would vote on my behalf to let me have green shutters because of these reasons.
  • Then the town could have it's own vote and say, "She makes a valid point, and we don't want our neighbor to have bad memories, and obviously likes the feeling of being closer to nature by having a bit of color to the outside of her home that accents well with nature, we think she presented a very valid point." Then if the community/town (if it falls in a category of living here you go by our rules) they take a vote and say they like my reasoning for what I want, then I would be able to have my home as I like it. Later if I changed my mind and painted them blue, there would be no rule that said I had to change it back.
  • I would not have that option in a Democracy.

Do not misunderstand, that if a community you choose to move into has rules, then you abide by their rules! Like here at hubpages, we do not post things that are against their rules, because WE do not own the servers that hold the information! They do! So they set the rules!

If I owned my own servers, and ran a website, say "1st Amendment" then "I" would be the one to set the rules, and obviously it would abide by our Constitutions Bill of Rights, 1st Amendment, and people would be allowed to run wild with their words and or photos. HOWEVER, as an owner of that website, I would still be falling under the pressure from the Government to make people have to sign in and prove that they are of age, to save children from seeing things they should not see. Which I would then gladly do, as I do think personally we should let our children BE children for as long as they possibly can, and believe they are fed too much over TV and Internet than their minds are ready to handle as it is. It is up to the owner to do so or not.

I hope that explains a bit better of why we are a Republic and not a Democracy, and why just because our current President is a Democrat, he must have to present things to Congress (which has both Democratic and Republicans; see bipartisanship) before he can make any certain changes to our Government.

Presidential line of Succession Order

President of the United States
Barack Obama
 
Vice President of the United States
Joe Biden
D
Speaker of the House
John Boehner
R
President pro tempore of the Senate
Daniel Inouye
D
Secretary of State
Hillary Rodham Clinton
D
Secretary of the Treasury
Timothy Geithner
D
Secretary of Defense
Robert Gates
No Political Party affliation: (Considered) Republican
Attorney General
Eric Holder
D
Secretary of the Interior
Ken Salazar
D
Secretary of Agriculture
Tom Vilsack
D
Secretary of Commerce
Gary Locke
D
Secretary of Labor
Hilda Solis
D
Secretary of Health & Human Services
Kathleen Sebelius
D
Secretary of Housing & Urban Development
Shaun Donovan
D
Secretary of Transportation
Ray LaHood
R
Secretary of Energy
Steven Chu
D
Secretary of Education
Arne Duncan
D
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Eric Shinseki
No Political Party Affiliation
Secretary of Homeland Security
Janet Napolitano
D
TO WRITE TO ANY PERSON NAMED ABOVE AT: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington D.C., DC 20500 *** or visit the White House Website at: http://www.whitehouse.gov

My Dad the day he left for WWII at the young age of 17

RIP: Nov: 11.13.1922  -- Nov: 11.14.2009
RIP: Nov: 11.13.1922 -- Nov: 11.14.2009

Writing to our President or other Offical:

If you, or anyone you know, have any questions concerning any of the things you see listed here, or that are in the table above, you can write to any one of the people and ask your question. Be assured you WILL get a response!

I know this for a fact, as my father a WWII Veteran, upon his death, I received a note of Honor signed by the President. When I wrote a thank you note for acknowledging my father, they responded to that as well with two signed Honors of my dad being in the war, along with their condolence.

The White House not only has app's for your cell phones, they will respond with any questions answering to the best of their abilities. I know, because I have written there at different times throughout my life, the most memorable of course as a child when my father first taught me how to write, where to write and making sure I always addressed our President as "Mr. President" and to remember to say, please and thank you for reading my letters.

I got back things I did not understand at a young age, but it taught me a valuable lesson. That lesson was, to stay involved, stay informed, and speak to our leaders with, not only Pride in our country, but with respect as well.
(Of course I was taught to always have respect for anyone of authority, as well as to question it.)

Here is the address and website to write to anyone on the table list with any question of your concern! If you are writing to the President then address him as such, I have listed their names and official titles so you can address them to the right person for your question or comments.

  • Mr. President Obama
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW
    Washington D.C., DC 20500

You can also visit The White House website at:

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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Kat - I am so impressed first of all! You really do know your stuff! This is an excellent hub, I had to click everything. I loved this! I like how you made it so sensible and understandable. I look through my kids books when they are doing their homework and am surprised at what has been left out sometimes! I was reading one of Laurels college books and jeeze the info they had on sleep was just wrong! I told her she would have to learn the wrong answers or she might fail her test! Dumb!

Your dad is very good looking! I have a picture of my gramps and he is dressed just like him for that war:).

Excellent Kat!


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Damn girl! You put a lot into this piece, and it's awesome. You're not just another pretty face .. you're a .. uh .. uh, person with a big brain!

I really enjoyed this kid!

jim


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

RH: Thank you so much! I think it is a great idea that when we answer a question to someone, that they suggest a hub if it is too long. The person below my answer had given a very good answer, but (Yes put a follow on me, and I hope he comments:) because space being limited, his terms were shortened like, to "mob" rather than Majority Rule, so while he made his point, and very well, seeing that this person is living in Pakistan, I figured he might need to understand "mob" is basically a slang for "Majority." His answer was great, it just needed elaboration for someone who would not otherwise understand.

I had a friend here from Switzerland and he did not understand a lot of our slang, so sometimes I would find myself having to explain things so he knew it was a figure of speech, not to be taken literal. There was some instances it was great he had a good since of humor, and would get a good laugh out of it. I'm sorry he had to leave and go back home to live. He liked it here, although he didn't understand some things. He was a REAL Swiss baker! And a very very good one! So yes, I believe things are lost in translations and more depth is needed. Thank you for clicking links and seeing that, yes I needed a little research, but my father was a great teacher, I think because he had to learn so much for himself at such a young age. He was just a boy in that photo. I hope you come back when I make a family hub with plenty of photos, both older and newer. I'm just very thankful that my dad made it home from that war. He did get a Purple Heart as a bullet had gone through his leg, but when I went to the VA I did not have his discharge papers, as they were here in my safety box. They said I can get it replaced with those papers, so at some point I will do that. Although I really wish my dad didn't have to endure the tragic things he witnessed during that war, nor had to suffer the pain of a bullet. He was also almost deafened in his left ear as a mortar went off before he could plug his hear and it damaged his ear drum. I was glad I knew those things when he came down with dementia. If you know about the disease it works backwards. They forget yesterday or 10 minutes ago, but remember their youth as if it were yesterday, so when his sisters called him, I was able to hold the phone up to his "right" ear so he could hear their voices and recognize them.

Thank you also, yes, he was a handsome man, and he was also a faithful man. In his dementia he said, "Me and mama, had three girls, life was hard, having a family was better."


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

TheMan: Well thank you for that compliment! I accept with much gratitude! :) Not only did my dad make me learn a lot about politics, he taught me a lot of life lessons as well. I could change the oil on a car by age 10! I used to lay under the car with dad and knew the names of all the tools to hand him. It was like surgery lol :) Only tools! I guess I'll take my daddy bragging rights! He was a good dad, and I was very lucky to have been the "oops" baby, as that left me with dad being the one to take care of me a lot, and he always took me into town when he needed things. Not many little girls can say "My daddy needs head gaskets for a 65 Pontiac, 8 cylinder green and black car" LOL to the sales clerk at old downtown Pontiac Sear's & Robuck's before he could climb up the big staircase. (Before there were malls, when we weren't there for a need, a walk downtown was out Saturday afternoons when he was on night shifts at GMC) Plus well traveled. Yes, I've been told there's a brain here somewhere, but sometimes I think I'm sitting on it! :) lol!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

How awesome is that? I mean what your dad said! And it's so true too! I will for sure be around when you do that hub! I'd love to see it too because I am nosy like that! Ha! I just quoted you!

I think it's super if anyone can give you an idea for a hub! Other hubbers have given me many ideas and suggestions. I love that! It keeps the wheels turning and let's you know what others are interested in reading too!


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

I love listening to someone talk about, and tell great stories about their dad. I missed out on that one

(see http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Abused-Creed) but I had a great Mom, who was the smartest, toughest, strongest, and most decent human I've ever known. I also had a grand father who was the real man in my life. He was 6' 8" 380 lbs. and was the original Superman. I'll never completely get over losing him or my mom. I'm a believer in "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger", and I'm pretty damn strong! (laughing) Tough times and all, I wouldn't trade my life with anyone else, and consider myself blessed. Being an only child, I'm a little hung up on myself, and can't seem to shake it, but if nothing else, I was and am a good dad. I've made a life of competing with myself, and continue to test my own limits. I admit that I never really grew up, but life is good and purple is the bomb!

jim

jim


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someonewhoknows 5 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

Hello,kathy! If,we aren't the policemen of the world as you say.Why,do continue to police the world? I think you ment to say we shouldn't be the policemen of the world.I agree with that! In my opinion people don't like to hear that their government is doing something they shouldn't be doing. It's hurts their pride!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

RH: lol, I didn't get that you quoted me until you said that lol! In his dementia, he said some funny things, we had to laugh or cry, but if we laughed, he would assume he said something funny and laugh too. So we tried to keep him upbeat (me and my real friends, there was no other family) But yeah he would talk to me as if I just knew the family. Once he said I looked like someone but he couldn't think of who! I said, like my Aunt Rachel? And he said yes, that's my sister! I said, I look like her because your sister is my Aunt. He said "I don't know how you come around to that, but ok" oh it was hard times, but at the same time, I knew he was declining, so all there was left to do was help him grow older, it's all anyone can do. I think he knew it was me, SOMETIMES, not always. Mom died in a coma, and after that, I think it stressed him so bad, that is when his real decline began. But he lived to 87, and had a long full life and family and that's what he wanted out of life. A family who didn't have to farm to eat. Then war at such a young age. So he got what he wanted from life. Moved from GA to MI to work in the factory to be able to afford to care for a family! Mom did hair, so she made good too, but they always lived beneath their means so we never did without. I had good parents. Both of them wanted the same thing out of life, that's what mattered.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

I clicked on that link I gave you, and it didn't work for some reason. I'll try it again, but if it doesn't work, it's called "You Dirty Rotten Bastard," and it's in my stuff somewhere if you want to read it.

Jim


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Jim, I'll find the link of yours! http://hubpages.com/relationships/Little-Girl-Lost... this is a poem I wrote about me and my dad. I think you'll understand a bit more from it too. I understand what you mean about parents and the history of families, how some are closer to one than another. It doesn't mean any loss of love, just the fact that there's a special connection, like your Grandfather being Superman! I guess he's in the Superhero club even if he cannot post! :)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

http://hubpages.com/relationships/Little-Girl-Lost... I think if the link is broken in this text box it breaks it, and needs to be added on, as you can see, mine should end with "void-Wasteland" (Wasteland is a metaphor for Michigan. The Metro-Detroit area. Where GMC plants are located. It's where I'm from, where dad brought us to, so he could make a better living than they were in North Georgia. My dad is from Kingston GA.)


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Well someonewhoknows who is faceless, I don't understand "Why,do continue to police the world?" as being a proper sentence either. Could this mean everyone isn't perfect, and thank you for pointing that out. Feel free to run spell check as well.

I DO BELIEVE, LET ME GO CHECK.... yes.. I checked and I did say --"That lesson was, to stay involved, stay informed, and speak to our leaders with, not only Pride in our country, but with respect as well.

(Of course I was taught to always have respect for anyone of authority, as well as to question it.)-- So, the err that you so KINDLY pointed out makes such a world of difference, thank you. I love it when someone points out my flaws especially after I have made an attempt to point out that I was taught PRIDE. Gotta love the world for having a gentleman to make sure they miss the good when there's so much bad to point out.

Thank you so much. I feel so much better now that I know my life was filled with complete idiocy! I must hit the books again and study my spelling and grammar! And quickly before the world falls apart. I'm so glad that someonewhoknowseverthing was here to point that out for me. You've made my day! I hope your day is blessed as well!


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Simone Smith 5 years ago from San Francisco

An excellent discussion. Though I've thrown up my hands with regard to politics (I'd much rather bang my head against a wall than try to enlighten others with regard to how politics actually works in the States), I appreciate that you're still fighting the good fight!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Thank you Simone! Yes, if you get a chance to look at my other hubs you'll see I don't do much talking about politics. But it came from someone who was asking why we are a Democracy and not stopping the wars! The man in front of me answered perfectly but when I saw he was from Pakistan, I didn't know if he'd get the meaning of mob rule! It sounds so gang related! I didn't want him to have that impression. I believe I sent him the link, then I realized he has also been trying to get me to approve him on my Twitter account and I have not approved anybody as of late. I don't go there much.

But thank you, yes, I will definitely always have it in my blood, it was there for too many years to just let it all go! And if one person can be enlightened, then that's a good thing! It was actually kind of fun. Funny thing though, it seems that the person from another country must have understood, while the American had to point out something that didn't need pointing out as I did say "with PRIDE" But there's that apple you know! At least if someone needs to know who to write and where they will know that.. and I know I got that right unless something changed overnight LOL! :) Thanks for stopping in! (Oh, and the man who answered before me, put a follow on me as well, so *big grin*)


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shussain86 5 years ago

Thanks a lot Kat! For "answering me" via a dedicated hub. Your writing style and grip on the subject is more than just awesome.

But Kat, listen...my main concern was not to get the knowledge about the ruling system of US, rather i am curious to know that why, the nation like American, are not able to stop the evil factories of weapons which are being responsible for spreading war and terrorism all around the world and have eaten up more than tens of millions of human lives. I apologize if i wasn't very clear with my language, but my main concern is to get knowledge that what Americans are doing in this regard, not the electoral system of US! These evil companies create demand for the weapons by intriguing wars on virtually every inch of the world and, in my opinion, It is the responsibility (Specially, Americans!) to stop these nurseries for the sake of global peace and harmony. I hope you have got my point.

Once again, thanks a lot for responding my question in this manner.

S Hussain.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

I fully understand your point S. Hussain, but if you think we are just creating "evil factories of weapons" just for the sake of having innocent people by the thousands killed, you are just WRONG.

In fact you should look around your own country of Pakistan and find the drones that kill people that are made from YOUR Government and you are fed propaganda, and you eat it because if you don't, you will not live. We are allowed to speak our minds to our Government, in fact they WANT to hear from us. They WANT us to help ourselves and each other. So if what you think were true, we would not send our troops to help other countries in need. We would not help when there are tragedies such as the recent Japanese earthquake & tsunami. But we are helping them. We helped Indonesia, we brought "Democracy" to Iran, but they turned around and took it away from their people! We help (not that we have to, but we are a giving nation), not only with money but with things others need to rebuild and food and clothing and teachings of ways to live and get by.

If we were spreading "war and terrorism" why were we attacked by a country boarding Pakistan? Why should we even trust you personally.

You're words are attacking my country which is a Republic (as you spoke WRONGLY that we are a Democracy, and you needed that pointed out to you. So I did it IN SIMPLE TERMS YOU COULD UNDERSTAND AS THE POSTER PRIOR TO ME -Point2Make- said.)

He said, we are NOT a Democracy, we are a REPUBLIC but used the term "mob rules" which I did not believe YOU would understand the word "mob" so I -SIMPLIFIED- IT FOR YOU using the words; "Majority Rule" which is MORE freedom WITHIN our country as I SPOKE OF!)

But neighboring YOUR country that attacked US (Afghanistan,) which killed 2,977 INNOCENT American's-

--What did YOUR country do to STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING?

They were innocent hard working people with families, on their way to jobs, they were on the streets below, they were the firemen who courageously climbed the stairs to save people, and died while trying to do so!

--YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTRY attacked OUR innocent citizens, as well as tried to harm our Nations Capitol where our President and his family resides, YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTRY attacked our Pentagon. Because WE ARE KIND ENOUGH TO LET PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES COME HERE AND LIVE AND LEARN, THEY ABUSED OUR HELP!

Which did you miss of THIS on the news?

Could it be you CHEERED WHEN OUR PEOPLE DIED?

We let people into our country who come here for freedom's that their countries do not have!

If you think by us having the FREEDOM of a Constitution that allows citizens to own weapons to protect ourselves from the outsiders or anyone who threatens the safety of ourselves, our homes, our families and our properties, then all I have left to think is if you can't be educated at what I say above, THAT WE are NOT the Democracy you think we are, and we are a Republic which allows us to do this, then you just must be jealous that you cannot have the same rights, the same values, or the same PRIDE IN YOUR GOVERNMENT WHO DOES NOTHING FOR ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, because you have to succumb to the lesser form of Government which would allow your neighbor to come over and take your belongings and harm your women and children, take a peaceful living arrangement away, and you can do nothing about it, because you lack the freedoms that we do.

We do NOT harbor terrorism, we HONOR our Forefathers who put together a country much different than any other country in the world.

If you are going to lash out at ANY country in the world, why are you not lashing out at the atrocities that happen in China? (An answer to that would be much appreciated, THANK YOU, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THAT ANSWER.)

When Chernobyl happened, do you know where they got the people to clean up that mess?

They pulled them in off the streets, husbands, fathers, brothers, sons. That could have been YOU or YOUR FATHER if you were Chinese.

Would you like to leave your family to do that rather than have a safe Military who would do this with backing of safe clothing and equipment?

Why are you not PERSONALLY attacking the Chinese Government for the way they treat their people, not to mention animals. Did you know, they EAT dogs? Only recently people have been able to own dogs as pets and had to STOP their people from having their "one child per family" law, because they realized having only one child they had spoiled them so now THOSE children are grown, and want PETS for their children, so now THOSE children are having an uprising over PETS being sold as FOOD!

What, do you find some sort of sick pleasure in that or are you AFRAID to stand up and say anything against China's ways? (Answer appreciated please)

Did you know that, S Hussain? I would be 100% FOR going to war TO China and stopping what they are doing to their people. In 1989 the students who stood up for democracy were KILLED EXECUTION STYLE. (The ones not mowed down by tanks.)

What do you think they got a proper burial?

And you're harboring RESENTMENT AND JEALOUSY BECAUSE WE CAN PROTECT OURSELVES? You should do a little bit more study on that country for TERRORIZING THEIR OWN PEOPLE than US helping the world and trying to FIX things. If you need LINKS I can provide them.

But I FEEL PERSONALLY ATTACKED AND TERRORIZED BY YOU due to your jealousy of OUR FREEDOM!

WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME ONE THING, WHAT DO YOU DO TO TRY TO HAVE A REPUBLIC IN YOUR COUNTRY?

HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY? YOUR MOTHER? YOUR WIFE? YOUR SISTERS OR BROTHERS OR OTHER LOVED ONES? YOUR CHILD?

Just because you, and other nations harbor jealousy of what we have, and the fact that we CAN AND DO help other countries because we believe in, AND HAVE FREEDOM, gives you NO RIGHT (because you have LESS rights in your country) to come into mine, and TRY TO TERRORIZE ME, OR THE PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY WITH UNTRUE STATEMENTS AND ACCUSATIONS.

Soon, you, just like China, just might find yourself cut off from being able to even access our servers. I feel sorry for you and people of your country, just as I feel so sorry for the people of China, just as I feel sorry for the Korean's. North and South. Just because South Korea call themselves a Democracy DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE ONE.

So please get your facts straight about WHY we make weapons to PROTECT OURSELVES FROM PLACES LIKE CHINA AND NORTH KOREA, THEY, A THREAT TO "US"! AND DO YOU KNOW WHY THAT IS? HINT: -IT'S A LITTLE SAYING WE HAVE, BE PREPARED TO SECURE OUR COUNTRY'S PEACEFUL NATION!

Because WE freely let you come here to go to our schools, to teach you things, and to feed you.

Some people in America think we have a national deficit. I personally do not believe in one at all. We have taken care of so many countries needs that if there is one, it is because of taking care of them that has caused it. BUT we have also wiped that slate clean for other countries and WE ARE TRYING TO PAY OURSELVES BACK FOR WHAT OTHER COUNTIES WOULD OTHERWISE OWE US, but do not do it for ourselves, because we just print up new money to put into our system. To give to disable people, to care for people who cannot care for themselves. Oh, wait JUST AS OF RECENT:

http://www.danishkadah.org.pk/networks/PDPO/

YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT 10 YEARS AGO!!!

I think you are one very misinformed person and I think you like trying to mentally terrorize people on hubpages with asking questions that try to upset people who are Patriotic Americans.

I'll patiently await a VALID response to EACH thing I mentioned that DOES HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR VERBAL ATTACK!


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Mimi721wis 5 years ago

Hi Katharella, This should be a history lesson for the class rooms. Your really educated me. For years I was a two party thinker. I asked my 13 year old grandson (Stephon) how many political parties did we have in the US. He named the Republicans, Democrats, The Tea Party and the Libertarians. He also read this article. Stephon told me he thought we were what ever the president was. He said he leaned something. In his classes he said he has heard more about Libya than the US government.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Hi Mimi! Thank you for your acknowledgment! I was surprised to know how many people believed that too! That's why I'm glad for the flag with the Pledge on it. :)

I'm glad it has taught you and your Grandson! :) I'm glad to know I opened at least 2 more minds to how our system works! :) It makes me feel a bit accomplished as I did go make sure my facts were straight before I posted (even though my father was very political and I had to learn this as a child lol) Thanks and be well! Stay informed, and always question authority! :) -Peace! :)


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David Warren 5 years ago from Nevada

I found this hub after seeing your question "Why are you following....". Wasn't following you but after reading this hub I certainly will be. I am new in this digital realm however I have read a lot of hubs. I don't know what to say, I was floored by it. Exceptional writing, great organization, tremendous amount of accurate information. If there were a category for best hub I'd vote for this one.


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Thank you David! Glad you have you among my followers and welcome to this digital crazyness! An awesome way to keep all us writers and readers close so we can find each other! :) I guess it took an outsider who doesn't understand the Great Country of America to prompt me to enlighten him! lol ;)


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Harder 5 years ago from The Good ol' US of A!

AMAZING! This is one of the best articles I have ever read on this topic. I love hearing people say we're a republic and that this is a good thing. Thank you SO much for posting this. I found it extremely useful, down to earth, easy to understand and it has totally made my day. Keep it up!


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Thank you Harder! :) I'm glad you enjoyed! I'm actually glad I wrote this because it made me more aware that people think just because our President is a Democrat it makes our country a Democracy! I DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE people thought that way! I guess it goes to show not to take things for granted huh! Thanks for stopping in! :) And posting!


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LorriVick 5 years ago from N.E. United States

The "democracy vs republic" issue pops up in a variety of circumstances. I don't have much of a problem when young libertarians jump into a discussion with a favorite line "The U.S. is a republic, not a democracy." I don't even mind when they totally miss the nature of the discussion where the word "democracy" was being used in a different sense. I do, however, note that the libertarians seem prone to jump into a "liberal" discussion over definitions while remaining relatively silent in conservative discussions.

If I remember my Aristotle, he stated that a "republic" was a subset of "democracy." That is, the republic was a form of government where the citizens of the democracy had voted to reduce their power in certain ways. I believe he backed this up by pointing out that the citizens of a democracy, having voted to limit their powers, could vote to change this (as with a U.S. Constitutional amendment).


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Katharella 5 years ago from Lost in America Author

Hi LorriVick, this hub was created for a person in Pakistan who commented to me as I stated above:

"In US, a very dominant population is against the factories which produce weapons! Being a democratic country, why US people are not successful in stopping the nurseries which promote terrorism and war all around the world? Is there a real democracy in US?"

It has no other intentions of enlightening other Americans, although it apparently did as they said. So far, this person from Pakistan would not, regardless of the times invited back to finish what he started, but just as I proved, the people who are like children on a playground, they throw the first rock, then run and hide much like the fact that our country was attacked, and lives were lost, and now "supposedly" Osama Bin Laden has been executed, and given a "proper Muslim funeral" when he deserved no such thing. If he indeed orchestrated the murder of almost 3,000 Americans, than went on world wide television, and LAUGHED IN THE FACES of the people who died as well as their mourning families and our mourning people, he chooses to HIDE just as laden did, which proves to not only America, but to the WORLD, that Pakistan is nothing but another nation that harbors murderers who laugh in the faces of others misery, and he appears to be very proud of that.

Not only will he NOT respond, he stays hiding and avoiding this hub which also goes on to prove what kind of country they run. THEY harbored and kept safe a man who promoted terrorism, planted sleeper cells in which many American's are still in fear of. So, while he, and his country promote and condone death and fear, they GLOAT and laugh in the faces of our innocent, hard working American's going to legitimate jobs to live and honest life regardless of their political vieww. When this person chooses to COME OUT OF HIDING, and speaks up to debunk what I have said, then a real political conversation can begin. Until then, Pakistan is nothing more than another communistic country hiding behind a facade of Democracy, in which THEY ARE INDEED NOT. Thus, my reason for putting in the hierarchy of who stands in line next in the event of us losing the president right down to the Department Of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, who would stand as President, but as we are ran, we would have by then, already had enough elections to fill all the positions prior to it getting to that point.

In my view, Pakistan proved, by harboring laden, is equal to that of China, as I said, they are masked communist.

Anything else is irrelevant! Thanks for stopping by and commenting.


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shussain86 4 years ago

Hi Kat, hope you are fine! Sorry for extremely late reply...! First of all I'm very thankful to you for replying me with such details. Now come to the point...!

1- You said "but if you think we are just creating "evil factories of weapons" just for the sake of having innocent people by the thousands killed, you are just WRONG"

How did you guess my thinking? In a comment, I can discuss only one topic which i did! I can't discuss thousands of great US personalities, inventions, innovations, success stories like Microsoft, Google, Apple, NASA etc etc in just one comment!!! I raised that particular point due to one of my concern, not to haunt you or any other American!

2- You said "In fact you should look around your own country of Pakistan and find the drones that kill people that are made from YOUR Government and you are fed propaganda, and you eat it because if you don't, you will not live. We are allowed to speak....."

Our politicians are very corrupt and prefer their personal interest over the national ones! I'm 100% agree with you on this point BUT...Is this the answer of my question?

3- You said "We helped Indonesia, we brought "Democracy" to Iran, but they turned around and took it away from their people!"

Do you ever try to know what Indonesian and Iranian thinks about US? You would say they are "Stupids" who are not able to understand the "positive" efforts from US Government! So, in your opinion US knows what is better for them, not they! Then you should also give the rights to the whole world to implement their policies for US people as well...! Remember one word...EQUALITY.

4- You said "If we were spreading "war and terrorism" why were we attacked by a country boarding Pakistan? Why should we even trust you personally."

We don't want you to trust on us! Well, you were attacked by Afghanistan. OK. I admit! BUT please don't ask me to believe on the US sponsored reports of 9/11. Do you know, with the twin towers, there was another building demolished strangely, which wasn't hit by any

plane? Reason...Strangely unknown to date!!! (Do you still remember the bogus US claim of mass destructive weapons of Iraq?). Well we both have the rights to disagree with each other.

5- You said "But neighboring YOUR country that attacked US (Afghanistan,) which killed 2,977 INNOCENT American's-"

Did you ever try to get the numbers of tens of millions of killings of innocents (including a dominant percentage of women, children, old age persons etc) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Japan etc etc?

6- You said "What did YOUR country do to STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING?"

What did YOUR country to stop the terrorism of Israel??? What did YOUR country to accept the independent status of Palestine in UN??? IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GUARD US??? WHERE WERE THE US WHEN WE WERE ATTACKED BY ONE OF OUR ENEMY IN 1965, 1971 ???

Did we ask that where were you....

7- You said "YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTRY attacked our Pentagon. Because WE ARE KIND ENOUGH TO LET PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES COME HERE AND LIVE AND LEARN, THEY ABUSED OUR HELP!"

You were attacked because of your kindness : ) ??? So why 9/11 never happened in France, Denmark, Japan, Malaysia, Dubai, Germany, Norway etc etc??? The huge population of the world (who never watched the typical propagandized US media!) consider Pentagon as the premier responsible for all wars, conflicts, killings, weapon proliferation etc. Try to visualize the global perspective instead of being confined in the official US perspective.

8- You said "Could it be you CHEERED WHEN OUR PEOPLE DIED?"

The same question for you "Could it be you CHEERED WHEN PEOPLE FROM AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, PALESTINE, KASHMIR, VIETNAM, HIEROSHIMA & NAGASAKI (ATOMIC BOMB) etc etc .....DIED?"

9- You said "We do NOT harbor terrorism, we HONOR our Forefathers who put together a country much different than any other country in the world."

Very true. I agree with you. This is the US Govt which is spoiling its great image just for the sake of interest of some eveil corporations (the core of my question)...!

10- You said "If you are going to lash out at ANY country in the world, why are you not lashing out at the atrocities that happen in China? (An answer to that would be much appreciated, THANK YOU, I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ON THAT ANSWER.)"

Every country has some downsides like US, Pak, China, India etc. If anything bad is happening in China, this is BAD! But what is the difference between China and US? May be a huge difference...Just in the ways of exploiting the interest of common man! Don't you think of urself exploited by the famous electoral gimmick "CHANGE" ??? An average American is giving his blood to protect the interest of billion dollar corporations ...Dont u consider it as exploiting? So, whether it is China or US or any other country...goals are same....tactics are different...! Some nations are being fooled....very smartly and hideously.....Think again...!

11- You said "When Chernobyl happened, do you know where they got the people to clean up that mess?"

It was SSR (Russia)...not China (unfortunately, a sign of a mind driven by the immense media propaganda! )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster (for your reference)

12- You said "Did you know that, S Hussain? I would be 100% FOR going to war TO China and stopping what they are doing to their people. In 1989 the students who stood up for democracy were KILLED EXECUTION STYLE. (The ones not mowed down by tanks.)"

Once again...just want to say that before invading China...check thousands of videos of Palestinians massacre on youtube! China is in ur list but Israel is not...WHY??? A sign of media propaganda's driven mind...!

13- You said "But I FEEL PERSONALLY ATTACKED AND TERRORIZED BY YOU due to your jealousy of OUR FREEDOM!"

First of all...How did you come to know that I'm jealous? G. Bush said that we were attacked as 'they' are jealous from us. Is this the reason? You have full rights to consider G. Bush each and every word as an eternal truth...!

14- You said "we make weapons to PROTECT OURSELVES FROM PLACES LIKE CHINA AND NORTH KOREA, THEY, A THREAT TO "US"!"

The same excuse can be given by N Korea, Iran for their weapons to protect their selves from US and its allies. These countries have never attacked any other country unlike US...! Would you accept their right to make weapons??? Again.....EQUALITY.

15- You said "Oh, wait JUST AS OF RECENT:

http://www.danishkadah.org.pk/networks/PDPO/"

The Aid is given with a very "Clear", "Strategic" purpose...! There is no anything 'Free' in the world....! I can write a whole book on it, if u wish to know! BUT i respect these efforts from great people of US, a lot! I'm NOT against Americans, but US govt!

16- You said "I think you are one very misinformed person and I think you like trying to mentally terrorize people on hubpages..."

Well, i respect your point of view. Did you observe that I have kept full control on my language and didn't say a single insulting word. No personal attack on you! I'm very tolerant person even I'm an eastern and you are a western! Western people are considered as very tolerant as compared to the eastern, but here, the scenario is quite reverse...LOL.

You called me as a very misinformed person! Hmmm...well I invite you to have a discussion with me (if you wish, i know you will never!) on physics, chemistry, mathematics, politics, arts, history, psychology, sports, media, religion, para-psychology, information technology, medical sciences, geography, business OR whatever you may like!

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An update....The current wave of protest on Wall Street is clearly endorsing my point...instead of yours! Every Govt. in some manner, ripping off their people...whether it is China or US!

And at last.....I'm still waiting for a non-reactive, reasonable, on-fact answer of my question!

Kindly, don't take my words personally. This is my opinion and i just gave them for having a meaningful discussion, not for the sake of hurting you.

May God bless you and your family with happiness and lots of blessings!

TAKE CARE


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Katharella 4 years ago from Lost in America Author

You want a simplified answer to your question:

-Is it real Democracy in the US?

Simplified: We are a Republican Nation that runs with bipartisanship of the two major parties 1. Republicans and 2. Democrats.

This means that BOTH parties run our Nation, and confer with each other on any National or International decisions to be made. In some cases the Republicans hold back decisions Democrats make and vice versa. While they work together, our country was still founded on Republican morals.

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--The person elaborated with; In US, a very dominant population is against the factories which produce weapons! Being a democratic country, why US people are not successful in stopping the nurseries which promote terrorism and war all around the world? Is there a real democracy in US?

~~Mr. shussain86, Just because a "dominate population" is against anything, us being a REPUBLIC over-rides a Democratic decision. Neither of which promote terrorism or war around the world, thus, there is "not" ONLY a democracy in the USA.

I hope that shortened the answer for you.

I hope you realize when there are world summits, they are for our world leaders to get together and try to come to a conclusion on how to fix our world problems.

Also please keep in mind, not everyone cheers at deaths or wars. I certainly do not.

I am just one person, I do not know why Afghanistan did not choose to pull a "9/11" on any other country other than they do not thrive as well as America?. I wish we could fix all the nations or let them alone to solve their own problems. Our countries generosity to others has been taken advantage of. I'M VERY WELL AWARE of the building that went down, that was not hit by a plane, -I was not there, for all I know it could have been collateral damage as Osama boasted it was much more than he anticipated.

Don't you realize these billion dollar corporations help other countries with jobs? Take "Dell" for one. Yes, created here in America, but I have yet to speak with an American when I call them for - an order, technical support - general questions. So they provide jobs to other countries by outsourcing. Without them, would they have jobs at all? Communication is always a problem due to accents.

I'm sorry I left out Israel. I actually have on a ring I purchased from Gaza. Irrelevant possibly-yes, but it was still giving my money to a store, and my money and pencils and paper to the children who ran to us Americans. I purchased those items FOR the children who could not afford. I had 30. $1.00 bills in which I gave each child there. They ran away with new-found treasures. Maybe the "powers that be" that were there in the 80's giving them weapons, they later used against us, I still saw war and devastation created by NEIGHBORING countries, non-Americans. I traveled through the middle of their own wars. My heart, however was in another place. I kept quiet as told as to not make any sudden movement or noise.

Why do I not lash out at China and North Korea? I think before this reply you have not read my latest hub. I wouldn't put it as a "lashing out" but more of a "I want change for their people." Fair work wage, home, clothing and proper medical care. I asked one of my followers to do a hubpage on "The women of China" and he did. (please look for them under my friends -spiderbytes-) He did the hub on Chinese women, not to exploit them but to bring attention to them. Give them a voice. Li Gong -PLEASE by all means read about her, it is his only hub where I asked him to specifically be a little more political than his hubs of "beautiful women." I actually wanted her first, as she is intelligent and speaks out about her homeland. Although she denounced and gave up her Chinese citizenship, she still went on to film The Curse of the Golden Flower (Beautiful movie to watch, and learn of Chinese history), but was still allowed to come back to China as it was indeed filmed in China.

As for North Korea, if you look at my hubs you'll see my last hub "A World in Crises-" and note that my comments start bottom to top and my last COMMENT reply is at the top. As I wanted my posters to note that maybe a KEY to helping the N. Korean people is a prayer to soften the heart of their leader, as the poster below didn't understand that my hub focused on the poor -and "rich" of N. Korea not feeding thriving countries such as Africa, as with our help they are up and coming, and N. Korea and China are very high on my list of hopes that even a small amount of Democracy will come to their countries. So, the time and date stamps prove I was already on route to do what I can for help there. ALSO NOTE THE LACK OF REPLIES, which I said would not come, and they did not, other than two people who actually have others in the world in mind. I predicted. The two posters that did reply, are the ones who care about the world, and not just "writing a story for hubpages." They care for those who don't know them, nor ever will. War with either country IS NOT the key as I said, it is going to have to come from another power. The power of love. Children and innocent people are NOT "collateral damage." They are innocent by standers. If I missed anything bring it to my attention and I will do my best to explain-debate, work with you on a peace keeping mission. We cannot change the past, but we can chance the future.

Care taken - Please do so as well.

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