Are black people becoming racist?

This issue has been on my mind for a while now due to my recent findings. From my research, it seems like “we blacks” are beginning to practice what we kick against.

Racism is one of the oldest ills ever known in our society. Racism as I remember goes as far back as slavery or slave trade, where we had white men who came into Africa and took away our ancestors to become slaves in developed countries.

From the sixth edition of the Oxford advance learner’s dictionary, Racism is defined as the unfair treatment of people who belong to a different race: violent behaviour towards them. Racism is also seen as the belief that some races of people are better than others; irrational racism/racist.

Trust me when I say I know what racism is, I have had a taste of it in one way or the other. For instance, I remember one time in a first class supermarket owned and managed by the whites, and had a large percentage of white patrons. So, a white lady costumer was at the counter and had placed her bag on it while the cashier was calculating what she had bought and I was lined behind her waiting for my turn to pay for what I had purchased and other white people were lined behind me. The moment the white lady costumer turned around and saw me behind her, she grabbed her bag from the counter and held it very close. I was astonished; I have never in my life experienced anything of this sort. It was so embarrassing, but then I couldn’t do anything because no one would listen to a black girl over a white rich expatriate or an expatriate wife. So sad, but then we cannot tell people not to throw stones at us and then we end up throwing stones at them.

A lot of countries have been pin pointed to STILL have a large number of racist practices and some of these countries are Germany, Britain, Canada, Australia and a little less in America. In recent times there have being groups or movements set up to fight against this barbaric act and so far so good there have been positive changes like for instance the high rate of racial discrimination has gone down and we have started seeing more interracial marriages and interracial hang outs etc.

I was watching KUMORA LEE’S LIFE ON THE FAB LANE on style network when she introduced us (her audience) to one of her high school best friend until date that happens to be “black”. That is a very good example of an interracial relationship.

I also applaud BRAD PITT AND ANGELINA JOLIE for adopting a black kid, this act goes a long way to show their openness to all races and types be it white, black or Chinese.

I am not saying that racism is completely wiped out, but I acknowledge the fact that many white people are not racist and a lot more are showing it like those white families that helped during hurricane Katrina.

The question now is; ARE BLACKS BECOMING RACIST? From my findings, I will say YES. I can’t believe that we are beginning to dish out what we kick against. For example, I was watching the TYRA BANK’S SHOW one afternoon on MNET, Tyra had a guest who was a fat white lady singer; her guest was depressed and frustrated because, she said, and “that the music industry has refused to accept her simply because she is fat”. She went ahead to say that most fat singer were doing well, but why not her and she gave some examples of popular fat lady singers, but unfortunately Tyra reminded her that those ladies are black and she is not and added that in the past it used to be reversed but now she’s glad that it is in the favour of the blacks. What is that? Worsened the poor lady’s feelings!

There are a million examples to cite from; like OPRAH WINFREY organizing a party for black female legends, and most black people saying they voted PRESIDENT OBAMA for his colour instead of his intellect.

I am a big supporter of PRESIDENT OBAMA; I mean, who wouldn’t after listening to his campaign speech and other speeches. PRESIDENT OBAMA is a born leader, but it hurt me when a contestant on MOMENTS OF TRUTH was asked if she would vote for a president based on skin or intellect and she chooses skin. That’s so racist!!!

Our comedians are guilty of this crime too, because they are always making sarcastic and cynical jokes about white people or being white and I don’t find them funny. I mean you don’t want to be called black or teased about your race and colour, then don’t do the same to another race.

Jamie Foxx (an American actor) is someone I recently discovered to be somewhat racist in his jokes, I mean almost every word he says is racist and pathetic yet he makes it sound so funny. I am a huge fan of this guy, but on a second thought, I am beginning to have doubts (love his songs though!). What is BET (black entertainment and black entertainment awards) for? This is so out of order and I think president Obama should say and do something about all these madness.

I am black and proud; had to air my views with no offense intended, Thanks for your time.

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goldentoad 7 years ago from Free and running....

Well, I don't think its anything new. I find all races to be in possession of racist and discriminatory thoughts.


Jonny D. 7 years ago

In regards to tracing racism back to just America's history, I think it is a bit self riteous. Racism has occured for over 2000 years. All the way back to Roman times. I agree that all races are guilty of racism. Racism isn't just starting in African American people, it has already been going on even before the Americas were settled.


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James A Watkins 7 years ago from Chicago

Thank you for this thoughtful article.  I might point out that as terrible as it was, the Europeans didn't just take away your forefathers.  They bought them from Africans who had already made them slaves.  Slight difference.  Nonetheless, your Hub is well thought out and well written.  I look forward to reading more from you.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

Thanks guys.


Stephanie 7 years ago

Thank you for noticing this issue that will just end up setting us back in time once again. I would like to ask you, what is a white person supposed to do if they are experiencing this racism everyday? I live right next door to an african american couple who make comment to me and my husband who is cuban, but has white skin. They say things like the crackers are out with there dogs, and then they say Ole mimicking my husband accent. In fact, I ended up having to get a restaining order on them because the man said something about my dogs and I said told him I don't understand what he is talking about, and he said I ain't no balck bitch and the man walked up my stairs and hit me in the face. I dated different african american men and lost 2 babys by a man who was my boyfriend, but i feel differently now about african american now. I feel very bitter that I can't like in peace in my own house without being tortured everyday by them. Any thoughts?


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Kebennett1 7 years ago from San Bernardino County, California

Racism comes from all races of people. It is unfortunate, since we are all God's children. Color does not matter one bit! It is only what is in our hearts that matters. This is the only thing a person should be judged on. It makes me so sad (and uncomfortable) any time I am around someone who is racist, no matter their color. My family is very diverse. White (Irish/English/German and American Indian Mix), Hispanic (Mexican, Venezuelan, Equadorian) and Black (African American and American Indian Mix). Racist is something we can't be :)  I am sorry for anyone who suffers racism, this world and many of its people can be so ugly sometimes and it is a shame. It could be such a wonderful world if we could all agree that color and ethnic diversity only makes the world a more beautiful place!


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

Hi Stephanie, Wow... i can totally imagine what you are going throw, must be terrible. The truth is that "we blacks" can be 'dramatic' and sometimes 'troublesome' but silence is your best option. try and avoid them totally, if a comment is thrown at you, don't say a word or try to respond to what ever, just ignore. It does not make you a fool or a coward. And if they still don't leave you alone then call the police.

Great words Kebennett1!!! Great words.


Stephanie 7 years ago

Thank you very much, I will be silent and hope for the best I really like your words, your truly a voice that should be heard!


Bud Hasherdashery 7 years ago

To answer your question, just look at Affirmative Action, and the Black Community's desire to see it remain the same, rather becoming a need based program. Some of the most prejudiced people I have met in my 53 year life are Black. As you pointed out, a vast number of black people voted for Obama based on his skin color, rather than qualifications...they had based their votes on qualifications, Hilary Clinton would now be our first female president.

What I find sadder, is that Black's claim Obama as one of their own, but that is not usually the rule within the Black community...purity seems to matter a lot until a blended person who looks black makes it big. Look at Tiger Woods as another example of this. Yet, I have a niece who is half black and half white who is shunned in the Black Community because she looks more white...surely that is prejudice?

There are so many examples of Black Prejudice toward white people, and it is tolerated even on major news channels. Today on CNN they had someone on from the NAACP who was encouraging Blacks to hire blacks, to open businesses only in Black Communities...if a similiar practice were preached for Whites, the public out cry would be huge. So, why is it ok for Blacks to encourage blacks to hire their own, but wrong for Whites to embrace the same concept? Surely what is good for the goose is good for the gander?

We can strieve to be a color blind society, but it is never going to happen. As example, look for a moment at the Illegal Alien population now infesting America. (note-illegal aliens are criminals, thus the word infesting is correct verbage) A vast majority of the illegal aliens in America are of Latino descent, yet they clearly demark differences between themselves, readily admit hatred of certain groups within their group...Mexican not liking people from say Costa Rico,so forth and so on...in short, allowing these illegals into America is actually creating a whole new wave of racism...IE, how many people of Latin descent derogatorily call Whites gringos?

Blacks are prejudice, and until we hold everyone accountable to the same identical set of standards and rules, racism will thrive in America.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

Well, although i believe that the best man won as president in America , i totally agree with you on "what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I really wish this "racism thing" will be a thing of the past.


The Chuck 7 years ago

Al Sharpton would be out of a job if there was no more racism. Do you ever see "Rev" Al defend a white person when a black person says or does something racist towards them? There's a double standard in this country and I'm sick of it!!


Tien Kai 7 years ago

Racism is not simply ideology - conceptually. Racism in fact is an aquiesced group phenomenon that propagates from the wielding of group power. What has happened in "American" culture, is that "blacks" have begun to take on the nuances of the racism "mindset" without the cohesive element of a culturally driven motivation to arbitraily impose power on others. This is a very important distinction.

You see, blacks just don't so happen to mate and pair predominantly with blacks. The same can be said for whites and latinos, and Chinese, and so-on. We do this kind of thing because we find something physiologically compelling about it; in other words, its natural. It is natural for people to view reality exclusively in terms of "race." It is when power and arrogant irrationalism shared communally through some ideology is fostered that what is "natural" becomes a distorted maladaptation.

When we are faced with this distortion, we would rather wish that race did'nt exist than to point out that it is a paradox of being human specifically. For example, human beings have sex for the pleasure of it don't they. This is in fact not natural; sex was simply not manifestated in human life for the purpose of a hedonistic satisfaction void of the drive for procreation. You see, parardox.

Black people are becoming additudinally racial, blacks do not have the group capacity to be fundamentally racist The attitudinal disposition of being racialistic stems from the oppression of a group effort. It is natural for a counterbalancing phenomenon to develope that is proportionate. That is to say, that it was "natural" for African slave and African slave descendents to for groups that fostered a buffer system against European/Eurocentric group racism.

It is crucial to understand that, it is almost impossible to find a deliberate indoctrinated reference to "white men" bonding together to inslave "Africans." It is also crucial to understand that this same abscence of deliberate terminology does not exist today, except in some small radicalized groups. When we specifically label our endeavors "black this" or "black that" we are only doing what is apparently obvious to our disposition as oppressed people being oppressed by a similarly identifiable group. A group who will not deliberately stae what we do.

Now this happens for a reason that is far beyond the scope of this comment. My point is, is that when we attempt to "interpret" "black bigotry" and "black racism" we must be very specific about what it definitively is as a real phenomenon that has power to compel "white people" to do anything that they don't want too as a people. Which certainly is not the case historically or otherwise - in "America."


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killthegirls 7 years ago from planet baltimore

I guess what Tien Kai was trying to say is that blacks don't possess the necessary power to be racists. Goddamn, Tien Kai, reading your comment was like trying to solve a sudoku puzzle. Yo, racism, historically, is the belief that the races of man exist in a hierarchical structure, in which the caucasoid race is the superior. Racism is not a bunch of po' niggas running around talking about how much they hate the white man. Lawretta, my dear, black people aren't racist. This black "racism" is an effect, a defense mechanism developed to combat the true white racism. Rape victims who hate their rapists are justified in their disdain and animosity toward their attackers. Is hatred ever right? No, for the most part, as hatred is too volatile an emotion. Is hatred ever justified? Hell-to-the-yeah! Jews hate Hitler. Tom hates Jerry. Niggas hate white people.

Look, I don't hate white people, but I'm very critical of their activities. I can see why some black people hate white people. And to be honest, most black people actually like white people. I think Tom Cruise is f@#kin' awesome. Megan Fox is a bad chick. But, I'm not about to give up some dap to these celebs because they adopted an African baby! Adopt a baby from East Baltimore or the southside of Chicago. I'll toast to that.

The point I'm trying to make here is that, Lawretta, you are workin' that red shirt, baby! No, seriously. Don't feel bad for white people. They'll be fine. If it ever got really bad, they would just go extra hard and enslave niggas again! They have the upper hand and they make the rules. A little ribbing here and there will keep Mr. Charlie on point. I don't know about you, but I prefer my white folks to be a little racist. Blatantly bigoted white people are funny, and they're real. That type of authenticity makes me feel warm and cozy, like those blankets with the sleeves in them. Have you seen those? They look silly as hell, don't they? I wonder how many of those things they sold. . .

Oh, by the way, Kimora Lee's dad is black.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

hi man (killthegirls)you need to change your name it's awful. thanks for the info on Kimora Lee, interesting comment.


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killthegirls 7 years ago from planet baltimore

Have you ever seen the movie 'Weird Science?' Well, in the scene where Robert Downey and his homeboy arrive at Gary and Wyatt's party, they briefly contemplate their "attack strategy," so to speak. "You get the drinks, I'll kill the girls," Robert says to his friend, as the joy and chaos of the party goes on around them. 'Kill the girls, means 'get the girls,' as that is the most basic mission of men.

My brother and I have also come up with a more refined definition of the "kill the girls" concept. If you watch television, and I mean watch it, you notice, quite obviously, might I add, that women are held to ridiculously unattainable standards of beauty. One hundred-ten pounds is fat in Hollywood, prompting many GIRLS to starve themselves, and thus, KILL themselves. Kill the girls is actually an acknowledgement of a system, not my moniker. It is an expose of all things questionable, all things ambiguous, all things subliminal in the media.

My real name is Terrence, and I am a capricorn.


Stephanie 7 years ago

REALLY??? That is how ignorance is spread, your comment about "they would go extra hard and enslave "niggas" again" That is a very ignorant mentality and I feel sad that there are really still people out there who just refuse to educate themselves, and "they have the upper hand"?? You can go to any college educate yourself and become anything you chose this is the United States. I am half white and half Cuban and our people are opressesd, at least in the US people have the choice to make them selves better people and give themselves a better life. And you are oppressing yourself just by using the word "niggas" I feel so sad for you, good luck in this beautiful world of opportunity.


Tien Kai 7 years ago

Stephanie, maybe killthe girls use of the word niggas has a degree of inappropriateness to it, but I think you miss the point of its use and why the word even exists at all. You comment on opportunity however is quite naieve. The are millions of people suffering in the united States over a lot of different issues basic -BASIC- to just minimal living. Th fact is, is that you miss the overall iport of such opportunity in a free-market system; and that is, is that everyone can't be a millionaire - someone has to be capitalized upon or crushed.

The most peculiar thing though, is that you attacked some of his word usage without -uh- talking about the subject matter that brought it all about. This doesn't do the person who wrote the hub due dilligence on your part to actively participate in candid discussion. Still, I guess we are all learning things about life, and I hope that you can soon braoden your persepctive of this so-called system of opportunity to become more informed and wise.


Stephanie 7 years ago

Tien, I have never had medical insurance, in 15 years my husband has never been given a job in the United States because he speaks spanish, I live in a neighborhood that is infested with drug dealers and gangs that control it, and I have been assulted here many times and the police do nothing. So I am the "crushed" people you speak of, so maybe you just be a bit more informed.


R-Geez 7 years ago

Society today is still ignorant and always will be.

Ever since Obama the community have grew stronger and stronger and now maybe feel just that little bit confident in striking back if ever hit with a racist remark or encounter.

Though people like Tyra Banks and Oprah Winfrey two most strong and independant women of today, maybe sometimes get in over there head and forget a little bit. There intentions maybe for the good but without fogetting it could hurt white people they need to realise themselves and not forget who they are.

Though in my advantage i'd let them get away with whatever seems to be a little tad racist after all the black community has suffered for hundreds of years.

Though people might think 'well we've been neglected and hated for the colour of our skin its time we show a little strength and no remorse for years of hatred and evil in the black community.'

I think it's not intentional for black people to be racist but i think its just signs of how strong the people are now and that maybe it is time to all come together and be civil whatever race, it should be a knock on the head for them because America have an amazing president.

It's an argument that could be solved or never be solved, you cant ask God to put a stop to it, it's up to the people to bite there tongues and change for the better.

Everyone is stubborn only they can lead themselves into living a better off life.


jim 7 years ago

that was very thoughtful and right on the money i think there are just to many idiots in the world who cant get it through there heads that we are all human and have the god given right to exist


theleftflank 7 years ago

What whites should realize today is that conscious blacks are not blaming them. Like us, you guys are modern victims of circumstance, albeit a much better set of circumstances. In a Capitalist society where virtually every aspect of humanity including color is a commodity, it doesn’t make sense to seriously demystify the general concept of white superiority. Why? Because you lose a major advantage! Hence, whites are therefore bound by the immutable laws of business to maintain the status quo while decrying ostensibly unfair practices that imperil blacks and other minorities. Pushing some of the blame onto the very victims themselves for their hapless condition has proven to be an effective strategy though...

Blacks can't afford to be racist because we live in a white society employed by white business establishments. We only account for about 10 - 13% of the entire U.S. population. Even the Latinos have eclipsed us according to the last U.S. census. However, white exploitation of black and Latino labor -which still continues by the way- has a blow-back. Naturally, those who suffer will tend to mumble and groan understandably. This minute discomfort in which SOME whites erroneously call reverse racism is what most of you guys are referring to. Yes, some blacks are pointedly racist but were not becoming more racist. If anything we're becoming more sheepish so many blacks are now blinding sycophants to whites. In fact, the more educated they tend to be, the more likely they are with some exception.


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The Rope 7 years ago from SE US

I have to agree with the first few comments. Racism isn't just part of "the new world" historically it goes back to the beginning of time and floods through every culture. You personal experiences and highlights of some of today's American issues is thoughful and a pleasure to read.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

Thanks "The Rope" for the comment.


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SOBF 7 years ago from New York, NY

lawretta - I think there may be a misunderstanding as to the word racist. Most of your examples fall under stereotyping or just plain rudeness. I have known many blacks and whites who will talk negatively about the other race without having any true hatred of that race. In many cases this is just what we do as people. Blacks talk about Whites, skinny talk about fat, tall talk about short. To extrapolate such action out to racism would be to demote racism to the most trivial of actions.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

I totally understand where you are coming from, but people view things differently so...


Stephanie 7 years ago

Lawretta, I wrote a story about some things that happened to me with my neighbors harrassing my husband and I who is cuban and the story I wrote about is uo above in the beginning of the comments. Well, for all the people who defend people of any race who show violence "like when I got punched in the face by the black man who lives next door, and he put a gun to my husbands head and said I hate white people and cubans or latinos". After that incident he had 3 felonies and one misdeimenor and got 3 years probation and I got 4,000$ in restittution. As soon as he got back home he put video cameras on every side of his house and front and back and one pointed at my house. I hardly even know this man!!! Well, apprently he did not want to pay any restitution to a white italian/cuban girl and he never made any payments to his probation officer so the probation officer called me and told me that. She also told me to be careful as he has said things to her about my husband and myself. the next thing I know last week I hear a shotgun go off and our houses are only about 8-10 feet apart and my whole house shook. I got really scared and I went to the front door to peak out and the whole street was swarmed with the police, the swat team and under cover agents. They were trying to serve him a warrant to search his house because he had bought 5 cars in 6 months and we live in a neighborhood , where the houses are maybe worth 35-40 thousand dollars we are all very poor. The police/swat screamed at me to hit the floor of my house and lock the doors as the neighbor said he was "gonna take everyone out" I hears more gunshots but this time you could tell it was a handgun and then someone was knocking on my window in the kitchen which is on the other side of the house from his house, so I run to the window and the swat team said to get everyone in the basement , people and dogs because he was shooting at the police and over in my direction. I sat in the basement crying for an hour as I heard gunfire going back and forth for an hour, I was terrified because I know if he had the chanse he would of shot me, my husband and our dogs. After an hour and it got a lot more quiet I left my dogs down there and crawled on the floor and opened the front door a crack and I saw them finally putting him in the back of a police car along with his wife. MY street was blocked off for 12 hours and there must of been over 100 police/swat/ and undercovers (because they had masks). They put up the crime scene tape and spent all night and the next day retreiving bullets from my yard, the street, the police cars etc. He saw them coming because of the cameras and just began to shoot. I thought I was going to die for sure, if he is shooting at the police and at my house, he knows he had nothing to lose now because he knew he would get severe charges. I was up all night scared because this is an african american couple whom I have almost never ever spoken too and they hated us for what??our nationality!! He know nothing about me or my husband. He was in the paper, on the news, and so was his wife. They found guns, drugs, wads of money, and the obvious shootings. He was charged with 2 counts of trying to murder, felony gun possesion, being a felon with many guns, running a drug house, drug possession and other things, his bail is 1 million dollars! The wife was charged with 4 counts I think 2 of them misdeimeanors. Her bail was set at 5,000 dollars and she is out and back next door!!!! I understand and respect always peoples opinions on this site, but no one can tell me this was not rasism in its purest form. I am a nursing student and I volenteer for free for hospice, I am no a saint by any means but I promise you my husband and I did nothing to these people! About 4 days ago I let one of my dogs out to use the bathroom and we have a fence, and I saw the wife outside doing something with her trash, and I try to ignore them at all costs, but she was still walking around over by the fence and it was like 3 am because I was studying and I heard my dog cry, i called her and she came in and could not open her eyes Lawretta! The women thru something in her eyes, so for the past week I have been cleaning them out 4 times a day and using drops I got from the vet but she is really suffering, and this just so happens to be the dog that was abused and I rescued her! WHY? WHY? WHEN does it end? I know now there is racism in black people, true evil racism, and I am only half white and cuban and ny husband is full ccuban so what is sad is that they do not know I am of a mixed race they just see my white skin. I am 34 and I NEVER grew up with racism, and when I was 18 and working I started to hear comments i did not understand. I was born in 1975 and lived between detroit and lansing and I never even knew about the suffering of black people until I was older, but being from the north I never even really heard many black people even talk about it. So I ask myself why are so many people trying to say "oh its not racism if the person is black who says it?" There is something wrong with that...I don't care what nationality anyone is...a good person is a good person, no matter the color. But after what I just recently went through, I now have a different view of people as I NEVER did before, and that makes me so sad as i never thought of anybody being different from anyone else. So many people are oppressed , my husband was tortured and deprived of food for years in CUBA and jailed if he did not say he loved castro on demand! I now know all people are racist in their own and very different ways, but I think black people should stop saying that they were oppressed for years so now "its their time" Cubans are extremely opressed today, north korea is no picnic etc. etc. we live in the USA we all have opportunities many others don't have. We need to work together on that issue and stop living in the past, as we get older the older black people who's hearts are still filled with hate need to let that hate die with them...always keep the history ans stories alive , but without the hatred. I live her in this house with my husband and 3 dogs and have no peace in my home, my dog can't even use the bathroom without getting abused....where/when does it end? In the USA we should all be like family....as we are already at war with 2 contries, and many others who are jealous of the USA we need to unite if for no other reason then we have our enemies-the taliban-north korea, etc. How can we be so rotten to eachother here? And any advice on what I do next...as the wife is back at home and I live in fear everyday..and for what...my looks?


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

Stephanie, wow! i feel really sorry for you and what you are passing through. i wish i could really help! you must be going through hell!!! at this point, i really don't know what to say. i think the hate your neighbor feels is totally different from what you may be thinking although it is still on racism. i think the hate is on the whole white people, your white community, there behaviors towards your neighbor and all that. but unfortunately you are closest to them so they pure their rage on you instead. i will advise that you be careful, watchful and give space but don't show fear. because they could use your fear against you.


laustcawz 7 years ago

Lawretta--

Unfortunately, the racism backlash,

as it might be called, has been growing

steadily but silently for a long time,

as has a similar feminism backlash.

Both, until fairly recently,

have gone unacknowledged.

I have a challenge for you:

Don't know if you're familiar with it,

but there's a hard-to-find 1995 film entitled

"White Man's Burden". If you can find a copy,

watch it & ask yourself how similar to

or different from our reality it is

about a decade & !/2 later.

As for the feminism backlash,

you should find out about Warren Farrell;

& also, think about how the past year

included biopics about Julia Child & Coco Chanel

& i don't think there's ever been one

about Thomas Edison or, for that matter,

Jack Kilby, who helped make

this correspondence possible.


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lawretta 7 years ago from England Author

thanks laustcawz for your contribution, it answers a lot of questions on my mind. i hope i get the film online to watch.


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DeBorrah K. Ogans 6 years ago

Lawreta, This is and interesting thought provoking hub you have presented some interesting points! Thank you for sharing, Blessings!


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

hi Deborrah,

thanks for the comment. i had to air my thoughts but with no offense intended. am glad you like it!


Jojo Adieu 6 years ago

Please white people stop excusing yourselves from the atrocities you afflicted onto the black souls and black consciousness through the slave trade and colonism by saying that it was the black man who enslaved the black people first before you bought into the idea. This is a blatant lie. You are shameless and without remorse even though the futures of black people today have been affected by the greed and selfishness which built the infrastructure of your society - from the toil and sweat of black people everywhere.

I am an african, my great grandfather disappeared after him and a small group of people from his town went to a peaceful discussion with white men about their territory. Only God almighty knows what happened to him and the group and what the white men did to them.

Most black people want to forget all the sufferings that our people have gone through but given that the last lynching of black men was only three years before I was born, there are still people alive who took part in all of that and made their children to watch - so where has all that hatred for us gone. Sometimes I feel that the white race has a PR machine for race relation that is made to make us feel as if all was in a far away past.

When some black people try to point out that white people should not complain too much about having things their ways all the time and try and consider the suffering of other people - e.g example of the fat girl who said she wasn't getting anywhere as a singer then black people are being racist. Maybe itr is possible to make all of us forget the depth of what real racism is when all the power was deemed in the white man's hand because it felt it had the future of all black people in his hand.

White people and also black people (most need to go to the black history website and learn more about who they are and what their position in a predominantly white society today is - media/jobs/ideals/identity) should stop labelling people who use examples of their history and experience with the white race to label them as racist just because the white people don't want to feel any remorse or guilt or even empathy for what black people have had to endure in their hands.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

hi jojo, thanks for the comment, i am African and that history(slave trade) is way forgotten and you know it. besides, this whites didn't commit that crime so should not be penalized for it even though some of them are still racist. i am hoping with my hub, that lots of white people will stop the racial discrimination and that "we blacks" will stop pointing fingers and just move on. thanks


Roger 6 years ago

Jojo, I think what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that not only are whites today completely separated from slavery in the past, but most of our families literally had nothing to do with it in the first place. For example, half of my family came over to the US around 1910 from France and Poland, a quarter came over from Scotland in 1890, and the last fourth (my dad's mom) came over from Germany after World War II as a survivor of the holocaust. This is the kind of family history that MOST whites have. Not as slaveholders, but as white immigrants in the 1800s or 1900s. That's why when I get told by black people that my ancestors were personally responsible for all their hardships, I get pissed off. My ancesters were new to this country AFTER slavery even happened.

I have to admit that having white skin probably made it easier for my family (who lived in Chicago back then) to move up in society, and that's why I am now a middle class white American. But my family was never racist, and my parents never flinched when I brought home my first girlfriend: a black girl. So when people out on the street call me names and then try to give me all this shit about how I'm responsible for their suffereing, I can't buy it, because it's factually incorrect.

And moreover, it's sad because when I was very little, I never had a racist thought, never looked at a black person differently, never got an anxious feeling when I passed one on the street. But experience as a white kid in a 60% black high school and as a college kid in Philadelphia has TAUGHT me to feel more nervous when I have to walk through a group of black guys at night, for example.

It's something I hate about myself--the fact that I actually have different feelings for different races now--and I still try my hardest to leave all those feelings behind when I meet someone new, because no matter what a person's skin color is, you can't just assume anything you want about them. But sometimes it's really hard to withhold getting pissed off at a black person who thinks you're such a racist white boy when it's black peoples' attitudes that have made you think twice about them in the first place.

Lawrett, this was a very thoughtful piece. Thanks.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

thanks Roger for the honest comment, it makes a whole lot of good sense.


Goth 6 years ago

Lawretta,I just watched a documentary on issues facing "blacks" in the U.S. in which Jesse Jackson had a congregation of "Black" americans chanting and using the old Black Panther salute in a segment of the program. I don't think our leaders on all sides are helping to extinguish the unrest in this country. I grew up and still live in a predomintly "Caucasian" community. I am a decendant of a Germanic tribe called the Visigoths. One of the characteristics of my tribe was our red hair. I can tell you I personally know about "Social Predjudice". I put up with more crap both mental and physical than I care to remember. Just because I had different colored hair?? Imagine growing up in a community of people that have the same skin tone as you but they don't like you because you're hair is a different color. Now I am dealing with more "Social Predjudice". We moved into this town of about 500 residents about 9 years ago. We are considered outsiders and not to be trusted mainly because we didn't grow up here and we aren't members of one of the 3 churches. How's that for shallow thinking? I personally feel people need to dispose of the word "Racism". In my Bible there is one race it's HUMAN!!!!! May Peace always be with you. Goth


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

you are absolutely right Goth,

i mean that's just shallow thinking and unfortunately our leaders arn't doing much about it.


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Danny R Hand 6 years ago

lawretta, I read an essay some years ago and the author was addressing some of the differences between America and other countries. One of the things the writer commented on, was the fact that America, being such a young nation, and being so culturally diverse, it left us with no specific traditions. We as a nation, have no specific culture. We don't have traditional legends, so a void exists in the area of bonding as countrymen. Because of our diversity, it seems we have seperated into clicks of not just race, but culture. As time goes on, this division will expand. And it's expansion will come in the form of racism. Not just black and white, but asian, indian, latino, ect... Only embrassing our commonalities will overcome it. Virtues like kindness, compassion, bravery, courage, morality, and principles, these are the things we need to teach our children. We should'nt focus on our differences, but on those things we share as Americans. I enjoyed and appreciated your hub. Thanks for being vocal with a hush, hush topic.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

very true Danny R Hand, thanks for contributing.


laustcawz 6 years ago

I feel I must comment on Danny R. Hand's suggestion

that we focus more on our commonalities:

Yes, we're all human, but individuality

need not be divisive & doesn't have to be limited

to cliques. It should be embraced, too.

It's just as important as anything unifying

& presents just as many vital benefits,

along with potentially tragic downsides.

The virtues mentioned can be somewhat subjective as well,

depending on the situation & the people involved.

Any real solutions are never that simple.


laustcawz 6 years ago

Just to clarify, I just mean that, while I think

it's important to acknowledge our shared humanity,

I don't think we should lose sight

of any unique contributions that might be made.

I'm also disgusted with what happened at Wal-Mart.

This is only going to add more fuel to the fire.


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

lawretta, I find your hub very interesting. The thing that puzzles me is not that blacks are racist but that it is publicly acceptable. When the white race is reprimanded for being racist, the black racist finds acceptance and gets public accolades for it. Go figure.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

very true Right Black, and its not fair! i think the government has to do something about it.


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SOBF 6 years ago from New York, NY

Right Black and Lawretta - Lets put this theory to the test. Please name for me one publicly accepted Black Racist.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

Hi Sobf,

if you read my hub carefully you will understand where i am coming from. i am black and proud but had to air my views. thank you.


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

lawretta, I don't think the answer is the government doing something about it, maybe people should stop patronizing them and their work.

SOBF, the name is Spike Lee.


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SOBF 6 years ago from New York, NY

Spike Lee is racist? Please offer an example of his hatred or feelings of superiority over another race.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

Lawretta

Interesting hub.

I couldn't answer your poll because using your dictionary definition, I think that the tense is wrong.

Racism is

defined as the unfair treatment of people who belong to a different race:

violent behavior towards them.

Racism is also seen as the belief that some races of people are better than others; irrational racism/racist.

To me this is a complex question.

Racist against whom?

One assumes that you mean against Whites, but what about Mexicans and Asians?

I like where you are coming from, so take my comment as questioning the phrasing of your poll.

I am impressed that there have been 24 people that took your poll, I think the most that I have been able to get is about half that many.

I am not a democrat or a republican, and I am not a fan of President Obama. I would not like him any better if he was white as Joe Biden.


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

SOBF, here is your example. During the promotion of his film "Jungle Fever," about a black/white interracial romance, Lee stated that he disliked interracial couples! "I give interracial couples a look. Daggers. They get uncomfortable when they see me on the street." Well, guess that's not racist, just like it is his business who marries whom. If you need more from Spike just ask there are plenty.


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SOBF 6 years ago from New York, NY

Right Black

That is not racist and the fact that you second guessed your own example tends to lead me to believe its the best you can come up with. What type of look do you think the Bush's would have hit you with if you came home with one of their daughters, and you say they aren't racist.


Sean 6 years ago

They are not becoming racist. They have been racist for a very long time. I'm white. I grew up around many white people, as my family is white and most of the neighborhood is. There are black people in the community. Never in my entire life have I ever heard a white person from my area make a racist comment. They don't even discuss race. They're never cold to the black people who live around here.

However, I do notice the black people have a certain hostility towards us, no matter how nice we are to them. They prefer to hang out with only black friends. They don't like to be seen around us. They seem to linger on racial issues when they talk. They'll talk about how racist white people are, how they're always out to get them, how if they catch a white person's eyes for two seconds they think they're racist, etc. When they talk about someone it's always "this white girl" or "this mexican guy" or "this black girl." I think they feel they always need to mention someone's race. I never mention race when I talk about someone, and neither do the white people in my area. I've heard some of the black people say they voted for Obama just because he was black. I also heard some of them say they felt blacks were superior. These comments are highly upsetting to me. I don't see it as white people trying to segregate black people anymore. I see black people segregating themselves from us.


ugk 6 years ago

There are different types of racism. The world is setup in a racist way. White supremacist world. The black mans 'racism' is mostly reactionary and it certainly does not implement through the support of the government.

I have been to Africa and many of the locals are the nicest people on earth. I guarantee you wont have white people running to greet you if you were a dark skinned person visiting europe.

The issue with alot of black americans is their genetic anger that gets handed down over generations. You see the same thing in South Africa. Wherever the colonialism and apartheid existed, you can be the victims will harbour the anger for a long time.

The problem as i said before is that this anger is maintained when the Western world blatantly continues exploiting the Earth, plundering it, causing wars etc.

Even in Africa. When the Congolese leader Patrice Lumumba wanted to guard Congos resources from greedy western powers, the CIA and the other lot started a civil war there and got Lumumba killed. And as the war continues, the western govts continue plundering and stealing from the congo. Examples like this show that the white man is still a major problem to this planet as his ancestors were.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

wow! Ugk, don't you think your last statement was rather too harsh?!!! if you really want a positive change in the world, then you should not condemn others but learn to make correcting statements. thank you.


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

SOBF, it is obvious that I wasn't second guessing and that Spike thinks one race is inferior to the other, otherwise why would there be a problem with then having a romantic relationship. Why is there a need for "daggers." How you then jump to the Bush's is strange. How would I know what they would think if one of their daughters had a relationship with a black man? There are no statements on this, all you can do is infer. All I know is that they are very friendly with Ms. Rice, authorize millions in aid to africa and that he had more blacks in his administration than anyone before him. But I guess that's just patronizing.

Lawretta, sorry for taking up your hub space but I think this needs answering.


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Origin 6 years ago from Minneapolis

I think there is racism all over the place, and it goes against every color of skin out there. It's also in the form of double standards a lot too, here I'll give you some examples. BET, which stands for Black Entertainment Television is a cable network. If this were changed to White Entertainment Television it would be considered racist, yet the opposite is allowed (yes, I realize it would be WET and it would sound like an adult channel lol). A rich college kid who was black was sitting next to me, he drives a brand new BMW and had his own big house. He got his college fund 100% paid for because of the black college fund, meanwhile I had to pay for the entire thing and I'll be in debt for years. Why did he get it? He said because of his skin color. I think in it's own form it's a form of self-segregation if you see what I mean.

I'm just hoping one day that we will only be viewed as "humans" and that is it. All skin color is is pigmentation, which is also prevalent in hair and eye color too. I suppose it's human nature to make ourselves superior to others, even others of our own kind, which is unfortunate. If it wasn't skin color that separated us, it would be eye color or hair color (ie, blondes are more intelligent and superior to brown haired people - example).


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

hi origin,

you completely nailed the truth on the head. you make a whole lot of sense. i hope our governments one day would do something about this whole color madness and put a stop to the idea of a black entertainment television (BET).

@ BLACK RIGHT,feel free to air your views here, i don't mind!


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terced ojos 6 years ago from terced_ojos@yahoo.com

Let's us get some balance here. Okay let's say that African people sold African Americans into slavery. Just for giggles let's us say it was a common practice. Which part of selling their own into slavery makes it okay for the "white slave master" to rape, denigrate, castrate, hang, murder and otherwise spiritually debase the black man? Which one of you is about to make the case that all of the evil the white man has leveled against the black man in this country and world wide is okay?

Okay so if I should buy your white daughter through some miracle of white slavery then whatever I do to her is pretty much okay; because after all some white man abducted her and sold her to me. Cheers. All is fair in white slavery.

2nd point. In order for black people to be racists they have to possess 1)The numbers of people 2)The economic backing 3)The political power 4)The racist will to oppress another group in every area of society. Black people do not possess any of these powers; white people do and they have privelege and preference in this society because of their white skin.

When blacks say things that are supposedly racist; what they are really doing is reacting to the overt and covert racist society in which they live.

Blacks who call comedians like Jamie Foxx racist are sorely out of touch with reality and are a gross minority within the black community. Comedians in the black community who say things that on the surface appear "racist" are in effect a release valve for the rest of black people who can't say in truth to the faces of prejudiced,bigoted and racists whites what they really are. We deal with prejudice everyday at the hands of white people; several times a day and we say nothing. Bravo to comedians who give us an outlet to laugh at. Consider it a way to keep the peace. Trust me if the brothas and sistas ain't laughing then they will be doing things that are far worse.

Reactionary yes. Racist. NO!

Fight The Power!


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SOBF 6 years ago from New York, NY

Right Black

Spikes reservations regarding whites in no way translates into racism. The anxiety, frustration, anger, and even hatred blacks feel towards whites is not based on some natural feeling of superiority or learned behavior from slavery as some of you here would like to claim. It is based on repeated communal acts of racism by the white community. Understand what I am saying, it is not based on a singular act of racism but communal acts.

Let me explain. A group of white men beat to death a black boy for looking at a white woman, they are arrested and put on trial. The all white jury finds them innocent and the white onlookers applaud their approval. This was America common in America until recently. Human nature would create a sense of anxiety, anger, frustration, and hate for the community responsible for such an injustice.

It takes a very special person not to carry the pain of such acts and I guess you and Loretta just happen to have big forgiving hearts.

I won't even comment on the 100% paid tuition by the Black college fund statement. I will just leave that to you and lawretta to believe.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

terced ojos and SOBF: wow! there is so much accusation and grieve in your comments that has left me speechless.

Terced ojos: it is so strange how mildly you beautify racism to "Reactionary". i totally get your point, but i am trying to make a change here! i want us to stop pointing fingers and just move on! that is... i wish racism from both the whites and black would be a thing of the past.


anthonyapocalypse 6 years ago from pittsburgh, pa

i believe that there are some black people that are racist. what i find even worse is that they can get away with it. Being a white male I find that I have to be very careful how I address minorities on a whole. however what I find more intriguing is how in some black cultures it is ok for them to call each other (pardon the next words) a nigger, but I say it I am all of a sudden a racist, bible thumping, KKK member. Now I am the first to admit that I have my own bigotry,I think everybody does, however I do my best to not openly display it. Hell I find it hard to find a politically correct term to call black people. To some calling them black is a sign of racism, calling them african-american means I am racist, I find that sometimes it is a lose-lose situation for me no matter what.

Sorry for the rant, just needed to get that off my chest.


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terced ojos 6 years ago from terced_ojos@yahoo.com

Sweety. Black people did not create the institutionalized racist machine in Amerikkka. Our race has always been made an issue for us. It is not the responsibility of black people to dismantle a machine that they did not build or help to build.

The responsibility to get rid of this racists beast rest squarely on the shoulders of all white people. They are the group that has by an large benefitted the most from this evil.

You are telling black people that you just want "us" to move on. You need to scream that message loud in the face of so-called good white people everywhere who say nothing in the face of racists comments their families make.

It is the most repugnant statement to suggest that blacks are racist given the backdrop of evil leveled against them by whites in this country past,present and future.

Blacks are reacting to institutionalized racism leveled against them everyday. The fact someone would suggest that we are racist is adding an unconscionable insult to an egregious evil.


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SOBF 6 years ago from New York, NY

anthonyapocalypse

You are correct, normally when I see whites walking down the street I normally greet them with "Hey Redneck" or "What up Trailer Trash" and they smile and offer a warm hug. Give me a break.

lawretta a accusation is a claim without proof, are you suggesting that blacks were not murdered by whites and then let go by white jurors? This is not accusation but fact. Calling blacks that you have no real relationship with and have never sat down and talked to racist in a accusation.


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

SOBF, I will have to grant you your argument for some people. It is true we can only change laws, only the individual can change his mind and I believe only God can change the heart, if we let him. I just hope we don't get to a place where blacks are guilty of what they have fought against and sometimes this seems to be the case whether you call it racism or whatever. Why is Spike bothered by what two adults of different races do, is this his problem? I wish he'd leave it to them without inflicting his views on the public at large. I guess this is the difference between integration and assimilation. Of course, I'm for both. He is happy to take their money but gives them "daggers" when he sees them on the street.

Wow, if someone has a way to get college paid for 100% by a black college fund I've got two teenage kids who will need that one soon. Okay, I know that that is ridiculous.

I would never refer to a whites by greeting them with "Hey Redneck" or "What up Trailer Trash," I usually say, "Good Morning, Mr. Racist Cracker." :)

Okay, I've had enough fun on this one.


laustcawz 6 years ago

There've been so many comments about the history

& other issues that we've all been taught

that I just feel I need to direct everyone

to some things I've discovered which you may find shocking

(as I have).

Do a search for "Colored Freemen As Slaveowners"

& "Melanin Theory".

Also, in the history class I took as part of my recent filmmaking course (for which I was given loans which I may never be able to pay back), my black teacher

said he's glad the KKK still has a website

because if they can say whatever they want,

then so can he.


Anon 6 years ago

Ignoring blacks when they are out looking for a fight is like ignoring a charging rhino.

I suggest you simply leave the place. That will satisfy their territorial tendencies and confirm their sense of physical superiority.

If you are walking down the street and they deviate from their side of the sidewalk in order to play the "sidewalk chicken" game, let them have your side. If they deviate again to re initiate the challenge-cross the street.

If you are about to open a door, make absolutely sure they aren't placing their child close to it in order to accuse you of almost hitting it. If so accused, take the blame and profusely apologize. Make sure you don't make direct eye contact. It could be interpreted as an affront to their dominance.

If in an area where their children are riding bikes on the sidewalk, always make sure to look behind you before turning left or right. They don't honk or otherwise alert the pedestrian and might ram you at breakneck speed. My daughter suffered permanent hip injury that way. When told, the child's mother wanted to fight. So it's best not taken to the parent. This will prevent

further injury from happening.

If you are heckled or otherwise routinely verbally abused, don't respond in kind. It will lead to your physical harm. I did and almost cost me a beating by perpetrator and friends.

Especially if you are carrying garbage since that might be taken taken as an insult.


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terced ojos 6 years ago from terced_ojos@yahoo.com

@Anon: You have white privelege and preference because of the color of your skin. You're the spoiled and sheltered kid in the human family. So you can expect to be ostracized by the kids who are treated like they are unwanted. Namely black people.

It's not really a racial reaction; it has nothing to do with animal dominance or some proclivity to violence. It has everything to do with the human condition.

If you as a white person were being treated with the disrespect on a daily basis by whites you would react in a similar manner; not because you're white but because you're human.

So this idea you have in your mind of black people and "that's the way they are" is founded on the fact that you don't validate the way we feel as a humans. It just never enters your white mind to consider what it must be like. Nor can you give blacks the benefit of the doubt.

So you can expect to have blacks with generally krappy attitudes towards the "spoiled white kids" of the human family.

When you really grasp this issue you will cease to think about it and frame your argument in a way that paints blacks as some sort of "savage animals"...Your whole post is indicative of racist arguments that have happened in the past and continue to this day. Your disrespect is not surprising and you can expect that blacks will continue to reciprocate it.

You think you're smart.

Black people are well aware of aversive racism. We can pick people like you out fairly easily. You are a bigot and blacks are going to react to you that way because you obviously have a problem with us.

If you acted more like a human being and less like a "white person." Not only would you find black people inclusive of you but you would find a very beautiful friendly people.

You're the problem and white people like you are the problem.

On balance. No race on earth has committed the savagery and brutality of the white race. Since you seem so big on painting black people as animals.

White people eradicated the indigenous people of the Americas. When was the last time you saw a group of natives and their families enjoying a picnic at the park. Never....because white people killed them all.

Hitler killed over 6 million white people.

Your savage history as a group is well documented. You are the savage. You are the animal. You are the rapist. You are the murderer. You are the savage beast you like to portray black people as.

No race on earth is as good at crime as the white race. No race on earth has accomplished the level of crime that the white race has. Past, present and future.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

hey people,

things can only get better if we all accept the spirit of change. thank you


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Right Black 6 years ago from Huntington Beach, California

lawretta, "spirit of change" sounds good but to what? We could change to black masters and white slaves, would that be good? We should always be clear what we want when we say change. In 2008 we were sold the "change" ticket and I, for one, am not enjoying this change very much. Therefore, if we want things to get better we should be specific.


Joe 6 years ago

Im white and have had racist comments made about me. I come from a school with round about 60% black 35% White 5% asian. I don't think people take racism against white people seriously enough. Sometimes it gets so bad we end up having white vs blacks soccer/football teams. Its sad because many of my white friends are drawn to racist ideologies because of racism agaisnt them and they feel they have to protect their race.


Daniel 6 years ago

Thank you Lawretta, an excellent article and an interesting one. It's really refreshing to have someone say what many are afraid to. Unfortunately todays society has gone into political correctness overdrive. I'm a white guy and many of my favourite comedians are black; Richard Pryor and Chis Rock to name just two. However, I do find that sometimes black comedians can take that cheap shot at white people just to get a quick laugh. And some of the shots they take can be true and funny, yet at other times can verge on just truely being quite hateful, and yes I do not ignore the fact that much of white media and comic history was very racist towards black people, particularly more so in the past, such as many British 50's and 60's sitcoms. Which of course is wrong. However I am focusing on todays media because I believe we are supposed to be or at least trying to move forward and away from racial prejudice. While black comedians will discuss the topic of race quite openly in their material, white comedians tend to step lightly around the topic of race; and I believe this is due to a fear of being accused themselves of being labeled racist. Isn't it true that if we want to really live in a society that is equal; then we should all freely be able to discuss the topic of race and racism equally without fear of being labeled a racist. One of my favourite movies is one called "White Chicks", starring two of the Wayans brothers, I have absolutely no problem with this movie, it's one of the funniest films i've seen in years and of course like all comedies it plays on stereotypes. Here we have the stereotype of the white blonde rich Daddy's girl, and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with this, as I believe we all have the right in stating our own opinions and conveying a social commentary through whatever media; film, radio etc. However I do question whether a movie called "Black Chicks" if made by two white guys would be deemed more controversial or even racist. After all if we are on a quest to create an equal society, shouldn't the same topics be fair game for every race? Unfortunately White people seem themselves partly to blame for this. Desperately trying to prove they are not racist, White people will often withhold opinions about race related topics, afraid to give opinions etc. I know many white people that would not even challenge a racist remark were it to come from a black person or any other ethnicity, Ironically through the fear of being thought of as racist. However the truth is to truely stamp out racism, we must all feel that we have the right whatever colour we are to stand up and say that we will not accept racism from anybody. I have been told on numerous occasions that as a white person it is impossible for me to be a victim of racism. I found this statement ludicrous, I believe racism to be the treating of someone differently just because of their skin colour; and we can all be a victim of this.

I am an Artist by profession and love traditional African art, as an artist I take these influences of african art and put my own european twist to them, a mixing of two cultures evolves from my own take on African art. I believe it is a beautiful thing when other cultures can appreciate eachothers culture. However I have been told that I do not have the right to comment on African art because I am white and not from that culture, I of course think this is total nonsense. Just as much nonsense than as if someone were to say a black woman did not have the right to sing opera or a white woman to sing soul music. We all belong to our particular cultures, but we all have the right to share, not to divide each other. Their is so much culture and so much tradition, imagine how rich our global culture would be if we were to just open ourselves to everyone. I hope for a world where we can all just get on equally, though sadly I don't see it being here too quickly, even though we have made some huge steps, there is a long way to go. Everything must start in the mind before it can be put into action, so by slowly encouraging people to question their views and actions maybe one day, just one day in the future we can all treat each other with the respect and as human beings and nothing else, after all thats a race we all belong too.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

Hi Daniel,

you made a whole lot of sense in your comment. i am glad you share the same view with me on: "I hope for a world where we can all just get on equally,". i advocate for peace and togetherness between all race and pray that one day everyone would read this hub and learn one or two positive things from it "on not being Racist"! thanks for stopping by.


Shades of Gray 6 years ago

Hatred is taught, racism is taught. Blacks are not the only people enslaved by the powerful & greedy. They are not the only ones who have felt the pain of isolation. As a white country bumpkin my family moved to a college town. A white town. I was called names, my clothes were ridiculed, I was excluded & isolated. It wasn't the color of my skin that was the problem, it was my families economic situtation. Do I hate those kids no.

Fast Forward to grandmother status. My grandchildren are a rainbow of color. When I would take my black grandchildren out we were stared at, called names, ignored and worse by both blacks & whites. No ethnic group has moral authority, hatred is not moral. Black & white elected officials/leaders continue to promote victimhood/racism to further their own power & fill their pockets. If you haven't read Thomas Sowell, I hope you will. Change begins with knowledge.

Books by Thomas Sowell

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AROUND THE WORLD

BLACK REDNECKS AND WHITE LIBERALS

CIVIL RIGHTS: RHETORIC OR REALITY?

ECONOMIC AND POLITICS OF RACE

ETHNIC AMERICA

TRILOGY


JC 6 years ago

So you think you got a good dose of racism because a white lady grabbed her purse when she saw you? Here let me as a white male tell you some instances I have had. My mother was robbed with agun to her head by a black man. I was beaten by numerous blacks that thought it would be fun to beat up a white guy. I have had a gun pulled on me twice by blacks. My girlfriend was gang raped under the bleachers at high school by a gand of blacks.

and you experienced what? A white lady clutched her purse? Oh the horror!!!


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

Hi JC,

i personally have seen and heard of the many troubles white people face in the hands of the blacks and vice versa. that was why this hub was written, to enable us talk about this things openly, which in turn corrects the wrong perception lots of people have. there is no way i will be writing on this subject, and not give an honest example of my experiences (big or small) of racism. i know i have experienced a little or nothing compared to most people, but it is still a part of my experience. thanks


Michael 6 years ago

Hi people...I typically don't post on blogs (actually never) but this is a topic I've never been able to openly discuss with rational people. Since this group seems to qualify I thought I would put out a couple of questions to see what comes back. In the interest of full disclosure I'm a white male and I live in a racially integrated neighborhood of mixed incomes in Atlanta GA. That being said I've seen the best/worst of both whites and blacks. I have many questions/comments but I'm going to start with one that I think speaks to the original post of "are black people becoming racist". I personally think the answer is a resounding "YES". I could be off base but I can't believe it would ever be ok in this day and age for "whites" to own, host or participate in as many (make that any) exclusively white award ceremonies as blacks do for black ceremonies. Essence awards, various BET awards (subway sportsman/sportswoman of the year)etc. Not to mention the publications like black entrepreneur magazine, black hair, jet, ebony etc. I know the obvious answer is that "we need these things for us because for so long we were excluded." Ok I get that. But I didn't keep anyone out of anything so now it seems like things are shifting in the other direction. If there was a television network called "White Entertainment Television" aka "WET" Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would appear as fast as greased lightning to decry the network for excluding blacks and being a symbol of racism. Pickets and riots would ensue.

I have also referred to black people as blacks in conversations with black people and have been corrected "I am not BLACK I am AFRICAN AMERICAN". Which I know is a completely separate discussion but I'd like to point out that I've never heard any black person anywhere ever refer to a white person as a European American. Which technically is the vast majority of people in the US who aren't black or latino. So for the record its not disrespectful to refer to someone as black/white....just easier.

Beyond that, I think its insane for domestic race hustlers to be so focused on racism in the US when even today, black on black slavery exists all over Africa. If Jesse Jackson really cared about the welfare of his brothers and sisters in the black community he would be educating blacks in the motherland that its not ok to trade women for cattle among other things.

Last thing I'll say; you can't get ahead if you're getting even so lets erase the hate and try to treat each other as we would want to be treated.


Tammy 6 years ago

"If you as a white person were being treated with the disrespect on a daily basis by whites you would react in a similar manner; not because you're white but because you're human." This comment here really got to me...I am a white woman, I live in the hood. I am poor. I have no white privilages that so called other whites may have. I go to the grocery store and wonder "what's gonna happen today?"...I went to a restaraunt and wasn't served because I was white. I was called a KKK mfer because I was 3 feet from my car and a lady didn't think she should have to wait for me to finish walking to my car so she could park in a spot that I was already walking through before she even pulled up to it. I have black friends who say they have never been in a racist situation. My ancestors were not slave owners, not one of them. My husband was hired for a job by the city, only to find out he was hired to train black men for the job and to be fired when the city felt the other men were ready. Blacks and all people can be racist...look up the definition for racism/racist. I have not a racist bone in my body, I believe in the soul of the person, I was not raised to be racist and I will not raise my children to be racist...My family is the only white family for blocks in my neighborhood. We are surrounded by latinos and blacks. We get along great with our neighbors and we love our neighborhood. For anyone to say that someone can't be racist, you are only breeding more hate, for those of you that tell your children that a certain race is bad, you are only making the future for our children worse, for those of you that preach hate and tell me I'm racist because of the color of my skin...well then you don't know me very well.

Martin Luther King is probably turning in his grave, this in not what he wanted, this is not what he fought for. He wanted equality for all and as long as we allow and justify the behaviours of anyone preaching hate and racism, The new Black Panthers (who by the way preach hate and violence against whites and jews) for example and the comments and violence they preached at the voting polls, well they were excused by much of the black community and our so called white government.

It's not okay to preach hate and violence. It's not okay to teach our children that it is okay to do so.

Ignorant people that make ignorant comments, as I have read some on here, deserve no response for your ignorance, because that is all it is is pure ignorance.


toweljam 6 years ago

I am a white female and I can say that it seems to be getting harder and harder for white males in this country. My husband and his entire department was laid off in a large national bank over the last year. After many months of job searching he decided to go back to school to become more specialized. We searched and searched for scholarships or grants, because we are not wealthy (I am a teacher in the south) and we do not come from wealthy families. We both still owe money for our bachelors degrees. We found scholarships for every minority group, including women, that there is, but nothing that my husband qualified for because he is a white male in America. We decided we could not afford school for him. This week he started an entry level position at the largest bank in America. He is in training and the trainer began to introduce interest groups that the bank has so people can find others that they have things in common with. All of the interest groups were minority groups (none for women all based on race) except one group for runners. There was not one interest group for whites, but there were 12 interest groups for other races. It is interesting because I think the civil rights movement in America was fought for a good cause and I think it was successful. In 2010 I think racism (against minorities) is mostly gone (I know there are exceptions and there probably always will be). One thing that I wonder is, are the extensive exceptions make towards minority groups made in 2010 keeping racism around? In order for racism to truly not exist, we all have to be treated fairly, but I feel that corporations are not treating all fairly based on the fear of lawsuits(like the examples I listed above), so wouldn't that create bitterness from whites? Personally, I don't think there is a diagnosis for this long standing issue when viewing it from a business or governmental approach. Personally the only way I think it could possibly ever disappear from any race, religion, sex or creed is if we follow the message sent from God and that is to "Love one another" not matter what.


KDW 6 years ago

I'm an 18 year old black girl. I like rock/pop music,I love Asian culture and music, I don't listen to rap or know the latest dancing by my people's latest entertainers; And because of that I'm labeled as lame and uncool. I get good grades in school and try to be positive and like a variety of things and because of that "I'm acting like a white or Asian girl". My own people ridicule me for being interested in other things that is not associated with "being black". I can just imagine what they would do or say if my boyfriend wasn't black. they say things like you're going to leave him for a white man or Asian guy. I mean what the hell! I can like who ever or what ever it doesn't mean I love my people less, it means I have other interest as well.


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ocoonocoon 6 years ago

That's very brave of you to write that hub. I think any race can be racist, but they are especially so if they are already integrated into a society and trying to keep others out, or down. My feeling is that the election of Obama symbolizes a rise in status for blacks just as the election of Kennedy symbolized a rise in status for the Irish. It does not mean that those men single-handedly changed perceptions, but they were a symbol of what was happening at the time.

The blacks faced oppression for hundreds of years and they still face racism, but they are moving up in American society in ways that are unprecedented. This has happened to most of the ethnicities in America, including the Irish, who once were considered lazy, drunken, and violent.

Any group that has moved up in society will attack those who they see as a threat to their success! They have just as much potential to be racist as any other group--it is human nature. All the same, I hope that blacks remember the oppression they faced and not inflict it on others. America really is a country of many ethnicities, and in the end they are just going to have to get along!


Luigi 6 years ago

I'm latin and I live in honduras things are pretty much different here, the majority hate Americans and Rey don't care of they are black or white asian or any race they could be, they simply hate gringos


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

thanks ocoonocoon for the comment. you made a whole lot of points.

@Luigi; wow yours is serious and scary. God please intervene, the world needs healing.


laustcawz 6 years ago

KDW-- I don't think the people you mention who ridicule & persecute you for "not being black enough", because of the music you listen to, know their pop culture history very well.

How many of them have seen the movie "Ray" about Ray Charles? Do they know that he did a collection of country songs written by white people, & that one of these, "I Can't Stop Loving You" (Don Gibson) was one of his biggest hits? In the '70s, there was even a black country star named Charley Pride!! A '70s group called the Average White Band was a bunch of white guys from Scotland, performing music with a distinctive jazz/disco/funk/pop feel, including the #1 hit, "Pick Up The Pieces"; & one of the first hits to feature rap (it even went to #1 on the pop charts) was "Rapture" by Blondie, a white group that started out doing exclusively punk rock music at New York's CBGB club.

The group WAR (the capital letters seemed to be intended in their logo) was racially mixed, & one of their hits was "Low Rider" (best known now as the theme to

"The George Lopez Show".

You can also tell these people giving you a hard time about how Morgan Freeman (assuming they're fans) thinks

"Black History Month" is "ridiculous", apparently finding it both patronizing & separatist, but that's not really surprising, considering he got his start on the original '70s version of PBS's "The Electric Company" (the new version bears little resemblance), which also featured Bill Cosby, Rita Moreno (Hispanic), Skip Hinnant & Judy Graubart (both white), among others. Also, a young Irene Cara ("Fame") sang on the show as part of the "Short Circus".

You could also introduce them to a '70s show called "Welcome Back, Kotter".

I hope I don't seem like I'm rambling, but it sure seems to me like our pop culture memories have gotten as short as Leonard Shelby's in "Memento", &, to quote George Santayans, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

As for you, Luigi, what reasons (if any) do people in Honduras give for hating Americans? Are there lots of different reasons, or does there seem to be one primary reason? Are the reason(s) political, social, religious, other?? Do they assume that all Americans are just like a select few rich, powerful, superstar celebrities? I do think that's a concern, since more & more people tend to want to follow/emulate only what/who is already popular.

O.K., well, enough running off at the keyboard.

Thanx for keeping the site up, Lawretta.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

@laustcawz thanks for your strong and helpful comments, i couldn't have done it alone.

@KDW; don't listen to what people around you say. feel free to be you and date whom ever you want; black or white. i am sure they admire you but are too proud to admit it. go girl!


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lisadb 6 years ago from Atlanta, GA (USA)

With much respect I must disagree. Although it is possible for blacks/African-Americans to be prejudiced, they can not be racist. Racism is based on systematic and institutionalized racism. Black people lack the authoritative power to be racist. Racialization was implemented and still used today as a result of a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. The aforementioned describes the white man.

The white man continues to institute a policy and systems of government, etc., based upon fostering such a doctrine, this is also known as discrimination, further placing him in a position of power and wealth.

Again black people do not possess this type of power, therefore they can not be racist.


laustcawz 6 years ago

Lawretta, I suspect you're mistaken about most of the people who taunt KDW. I'd be willing to bet that anyone who truly admires her is likely the exception. In any case, KDW, it always takes guts to unapologetically be yourself when others don't approve. Also, Lawretta, I wouldn't rely on prayers to fix anything, but then, I'm an atheist (don't think I addressed that before). I think that people just have to make whatever differences they can. By the way, I forgot to mention Sound Barrier, an early '80s all black heavy metal band!! I goofed, too, on the name George Santayana (I hate when I make typos!!).


Luigi 6 years ago

I'm latin and live in a third world country, we dobt have many problems with racism specially with black people(maybe because both Latina and blacks we made slaves by the spanish) I do believe that almost all the races living in the U.S. are racist not only the whites but also the other races like blacks and latins so maybe the whites passed that emotion of hate and rejection to the other races by the way they treated them (I'm talking about the white people) just look in the US history they once hated irish, italians, Africans an now they want to get rid off the latins this is just my opinion the us is filled with racism!


Frustrated 6 years ago

@Luigi

I'm a US taxpayer and that makes me racist. It makes me racist because every time I hear about the vast majority of a countries population "hating" the US and its people I find myself asking the question "Why the hell are we sending these people any aid when they hate us?". We have enough problems to solve in the US without trying to solve the problems of other countries.

http://www.usaid.gov/hn/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35714555/ns/world_news...

@lisadb

To say that Blacks can't be racist because racism is exclusively a White institution is absurd. Racism is about elitism and the belief that one group of people is better than another. Back of the bus, segregated schools, different drinking fountains etc. How many blatant examples do you see of segregation instituted by the white man today? Yet a white editor is hired for Essence magazine and black america is up in arms about it. No different than back in the 50s when the little rock nine attended a white school and portions of white america (the ignorant ones) were enraged. Not an apples to apples comparison but the common denominator is anger over one ethnicity being accepted in a place that is intended exclusively for another. Any group or individual can be racist. Just depends whos got the power. To say blacks don't have power is again, absurd.


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alfredfox 6 years ago from London

In my town we have a newspaper for sale in all of our shops called "The Voice", it states on the front of this paper that it is for the "Black Community". I think that this is wrong for two reasons. (1) If there was a newspaper with the words "For the white community" I know that there would be an uproar. (2) This paper suggests that just because a person is black, then they would all have something in common and white people would not. My friends laugh at this, especially my black british friends as they have more in common with me a white british man than they have with anyone else no matter what colour their skin. To assume that a British black person, African, Jamaican etc would all enjoy this paper because they are black is very silly.


brandon 6 years ago

in my opinion u've already been racist by labeling them as blacks just because u know some people who are black and racist doesn't meanu have the right to call them all racist cuz that in itself is racist


Andy  6 years ago

lisadb: So I'm Chinese, and Asians definitely do not have authoritative power. Now if i make fun of black people, am i just being prejudice or am I racist?

I am currently a college student, and one of the residential supervisors hired only black people to be resident-advisors on her staff. She stated clearly that for a black applicant, that person has to get a rating of '10' on everything, just because they are black. Well she definitely has power in her position, so can we finally label her as a racist?

On the student council there was a black student who slept all the time during meetings and did no work as position of student senator. When he was impeached, he blamed the student government for being racist, and got together all the black people on campus to start a campaign. So is that okay?

But disregarding everything I just said, do black people think its okay to be prejudiced against white people? If that's the case, should I hate japanese people? I mean they killed over a million of my people during WWII and raped our women.

Lawretta, thanks for posting this, I am glad you spoke up on this issue. Even as someone who is not white, just observing all this annoys me. I came from a diverse high school in NYC, and my best friend is from Guinea. never did I have this issue until I came to college, when I saw black people segregating themselves from the rest of the college community and calling white people names. It's really sad.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

thanks Andy for your comment, and thanks to everyone for speaking out, Good or Bad.


Jess 6 years ago

Woah, I seem to be a bit late. But I cannot agree with you more Lawretta. Every race is racist, and it makes me mad that my fellow race, "african-american" find that it's okay for them to be racist.Never have I ever seen a definition to racism where at the end it says "with the exception of black people, because black people obviously aren't racist!" It's full on hypocrisy. Just today in class, one of my classmates said something I found very distasteful and racist. And it wasn't really a joke. Yet, whenever someone says or generalizes what a black person does, he gets up in arms. I think the problem in our community is that we really only look out for our own race, and fail to acknowledge that other minorities went through the same things as us aswell. At least, we weren't outright murdered like Hitler did to the Jews. Or what Pol Pot did to his own people in Cambodia. Look at Al Sharpton, he calls himself a civil rights leader, but whenever theirs an issue regarding maybe a different ethnic minority besides black he's never there to speak up! I hardly ever hear the black community speak up for others minorities are going through maybe a similar tribulation in the news , which makes me sad. It also makes me mad that I've seen other minorities get up and carry on with life. They don't blame it's on some "white-man system" as some have said here. I just want the best of our community, and I feel like we're just as ignorant as ever! I really just want what's best for society! I hope I get to truly see a day where we don't look at race at all. - A frustrated African-American girl


Hello YT Here 6 years ago

LOL!

"Blacks lack the >power< to be racist" ?????

Seriously? HELLO!!! The President Barack Obama ringin' any bells????

Also to "lack te power to be" ...you are basicly stating that your race IS inferior. Its not, you have "the power" to be racist..or whatever you want to be, good o bad!

All it takes to be a racist is a Thought Process. Nothing more.

Plus! "Institutionalized racism" is NON-existant...we have a BLACK president, a BLACK surgeon general, BLACK doctors, lawyers, Police, Athletes, ect ect ect....

Basicly, > Yes, Blacks CAN be Racists! (and some are extremely racist)

But I think most are cool, just like any other white asian or hispanic person.


Soyer 6 years ago

There is still much racism against people of color today, but their is also tons of racism against whites. Of course in most cases those who speak out against it are called racists. The U.S is full of laws and policies that do not require equal treatment for all, but instead require favortism for minorities at the expense of whites. The majority of modern whites are not guilty of any kind of discrimination or oppression. Most are not even decendants of slave masters. Anyone who is truly against racism in any form should watch the videos below and share them as much as possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HAf-OvB77o&feature...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88AsArwYsTc


abbey 6 years ago

I am a white female.

I have never been racist or ever had any racist thoughts. I dont see color i see personality. thats the way i was brought up.

but ive had a few bad experiences lately. for example:

i was waiting for a bus one day and i was wearing a purse that tends to constantly fall off my shoulder. its annoying but it looks cute. i was siting on a bench and a group of teenagers sat down around me. i was looking around the corner for the bus when my purse fell off my shoulder so i adjusted my purse back on to my shoulder and the girl behind me said "what are you afriad we are going to steal your purse, id be scared too if a bunch of 'n-words' sat next to me too. f-ing racist white bitch" and they all laughed. i was hurt and offended. i have never thought anything like that about black people. i think this is a good example of racism. people seem to think that while people are the only racists..but this is not true.


laustcawz 6 years ago

Just to add something about Obama: I've read that he's actually half-Caucasian (no further specification), almost half "Arab" (no clarification on which nation this references) & only about 6% Kenyan. I remember the news reporting that he was raised in Kansas by a white grandmother. Though he's the first president to have such a black "look", which seems to have been a major reason for his election victory, it would seem that 5 other presidents may have had mixed heritage: Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackson, Harding & Coolidge. It's hard to be conclusive about this, of course, but do the research yourself & draw your own conclusions. A deeper problem may be that, whether one is considered "black" or not, more & more, the prevailing wisdom seems to be that, the darker your skin, the more you count as "multi-cultural".

My background (so I'm told) includes French, Romanian

& Russian heritage, which are different cultures, but I guess I still count as white. I guess the Romanian in me accounts for my appreciation of Gothic horror films.


BLAH 6 years ago

WHAHAHAHAHAHAHA America is a racist-infested country period. Most Americans have a certain amount of racism. Even the ones who admit to having close friends outside their "race" are at a low chance of ever dating or marrying them. This is evident by this statistic: "In 2007, 4.6% of all married Blacks in the United States were wed to a White partner, and 0.4% of all Whites were married to a Black partner" WOW! thats low as hell!

Im puerto rican and my family comes in the blackest of black to the whitest of white and every shade inbetween. We have racism in our country[not as cool as Cuba :( ] but we are headed in the right direction. American society is SCREWED it will never know true racial equality. You all can spew your nonsense of your Different but equal mentality(the water-downed version of Separate but Equal) ill stick to the "Same and Equal" Mentality as PROVEN by Rafeal Cordero.


Lexi 6 years ago

How could Obama be 50% white, 50% Arab, and 6% black? That's 106%. Anyways, his father is from Kenya, born and raised. Both sides of his father's family are Luo, which is the largest ethnic group in Kenya. He is unequivocally 50% black.


laustcawz 6 years ago

I did put: almost half "Arab" (almost meaning not entirely). More specifically, I read that he's about 43% Arab (43.something % & then 6.something % Kenyan), but this may not be correct. That's why I didn't state it as if I knew it to be a fact. I'm no geneologist & I'm no expert & don't claim to be. I'm a skeptic. I tend to be suspicious of anyone claming to be an expert on anything.

I've read lots of stuff about lots of things all my life & my take on most of it is that it's a lot like the game "telephone" or "gossip" or whatever you want to call it, where you sit in a circle & whisper one patrticular word or phrase (just once for each person) to each other & by the time it gets all the way around the circle, it's nothing like it started out to be.

I guess more than anything else, I was requesting some denial or confirmation about this issue, since I guess you can tell I'm not a big fan of politics in general.

Anyhow, Luo, Kenyan, Caucasian or whatever, he still may not be as unprecedented as many people would like to think.


Drew 6 years ago

I live outside of Atlanta. I went to school and grew up around people from all sorts of races. I also work as a cashier for a gas station. I interact with thousands of people each day. It is obvious to me that white on black racism is very low. I never hear white racism, but I do see and hear black people making racist comments frequently. I believe that black people are much more racist than whites. Many of these black people not even being old enough to experience severe racism like in the 60's and certainly not old enough to experience slavery. If any non-black person says an opinion about a black person, blacks see them as just being racist, even though their statements may be extremely true. When you hear something that is bad about your race it is easy to just blame racism, instead of seeing the truth. In this day and age where whites are made to be scared to speak the truth, black do just the opposite, and are openly racist and extremely rude. If African Americans truly want to be treated equal, they should start acting equal. Reverse racism is an epidemic, and white people are made to be scared to speak from their experiences out of fear of being flagged a racist. Wake up and smell the truth. Black people are equally as racist, if not more racist, than white people.


truth 6 years ago

Actually black men enslaved other black men as well as other races. In fact every evil thing white men did centuries past was also done by black men, asian men etc. Only a racist would think only white men had slaves.

As for racism itself...who harasses a black woman dating a white man? It's black men. Yet this has been going on the last 30 years that I know of and yet...you act like black men have only started to be racist. I've heard racist comments from black men against koreans and hispanics as well against whites. I think black men who ignore these facts are the biggest racists of all.

I should be able to date a black girl without being harassed by black men who hate seeing good looking black girls with white guys. And what annoys me is that I have never had problems with white guys ever. And yet every movie and news show depicts whites as racist devils. When Im in a foreign country...many foreigners think based on the movies that whites are evil.


SallyJo 6 years ago

Thank you for your article. Your article and the many comments have been very thought provoking and it is good to see honesty about peoples experiences. It is truly sad to see the hate and prejudice expressed by some and the justification of their attitudes. People will not experience the equality they seek if they cannot treat others with the respect they themselves desire.


James 6 years ago

No HUMAN black or white deserves to be disrespected! It is not right and only breeds hate in the mind of those being ridiculed. In the mind of the people being SPIT ON and having to fight (coming to blows) just to attend school, it seams logical to hate those who confront them daily. For no reason I have dealt with this from blacks as a child. Yes they SPIT on me! I never even knew their name. I was just a little WHITE-BOY in their eyes. If you have encountered this in your life from anyone, I understand your frustration. I did grow up, and am too big to be an easy target. I don't get spit on now if I did I would fight HOWEVER, WHENEVER! Let's just live and let live folks.


James 6 years ago

WHOEVER-WHENEVER was my meaning. Our children and their future are more important than the old wounds. I wish you well.


Arianna 6 years ago

truth you are right, its racism to say that only one race is responsible for all the slavery since everybody experienced it if you go back far enuf but what bothers me is if you look where its still happening its not in the white countries at all. does that tell me how far black people have come that we cant stop doing thatto each other??? can we accept the responsibility for that at all???? i have try to tell this to my neighbors and they just tell me to shut my mouth they dont want to hear about it they are still stuck in the past


Seoulmama 6 years ago

truth, I totally understand where your coming from. It's just not Black men who harass interracial couples it's Black women. I am interracial (Korean/Black) myself and find if I don't date a Black man, they say I'm self loathing but if I do, then the women have issues with me.

Even Halle Berry is catching flack for dating her new man. I wonder why most Blacks like to overlook a whole part of someone's heritage. Apparently she's self loathing too.

Black believe they can not be racist, a lot do. I was part of a group on a site mom site and the group was called "Discus Racial Issues." It's open to all races but once you join you notice right away exactly what type of group it is. A White vs Black group. With all the topics being brought up by Black members. As soon as you speak out about it. You get ganged up on.

Black people are not becoming racist, they ARE racist.


Matt 6 years ago

Wow, Its amazing how racist some of the comments on here are.

I have only ever experienced black on white racism, but I'm not from the USA so I can't comment on that.

Actually almost everyday of my life I get called names by black people. I personally don't care, all I care about is supporting and looking after the people I love through this crazy world we live in.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

Matt, thanks for your comment. please note that racism affects almost every country not just the U.S so please feel free to make your honest comments and probably suggestive solutions. thanks again for the comment.


PK 6 years ago

Thank you for this thought-provoking article. I can agree with a lot of what you've said. People are sometimes very racist without even realizing it, such as a woman in an elevator clutching onto her bag as soon as a black man walks in.

People need to realize that people are people. What breaks my heart is that many people love to categorize, put races into groups of types of people, when in fact, we are all different from one another, even from people within our own races. We are all individuals, and I don't see color as an issue for myself at all. I'm a gay white man and I've dated people of all races and I see beauty in everything.

The media really saddens me. I feel like they're not only projecting images of stereotypes of races, but images of what is deemed as 'beautiful' and it's also very sexist and homophobic at times. I think that we should all just embraces the qualities that make the each of us unique, and embrace that about one another.

I've had my own experiences with racism though. I've been accused of being a racist. I work part-time in retail. One day I wasn't particularly feeling too happy so I wasn't being my usual outgoing self. I kept my conversations with customers pretty minimal and helped one moment with a fitting room. She later told my manager before she left that I had been racist toward her. My manager came over to talk to me about it and I just got really upset. It really hurt me that someone would think that I am being racist toward them.

But then I realized that some people really have to make everything about themselves. I understand that racism is still something that is really relevant, but people often jump to conclusions about what they think other people think they are, which was the case that happened to me at work. I was having a bad day, I wasn't being particularly cheerful, and I was accused to being racist because of that. I just wanted to throw that out there. Perhaps the woman has had a bad history with white people. But I really think and wish that some people would stop jumping to conclusions. I know that there are specific white people jump to conclusions about blacks or other races and vice-versa.

I just think that we need to see people as individuals rather than as a race. When we get to that level, I really think the world will be a better place for people in general. Race doesn't define who you are. It really shouldn't. I don't see skin color or fat or skinny or ugly or physically beautiful. I just see people for who they are on the inside.


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lawretta 6 years ago from England Author

Hello PK, thanks for your well detailed comment, your points nailed it. thanks


Brandon 6 years ago

I will probably get bashed for my comment, but I will say things as I see them. I am a 22 year old white male from a very culturally diverse area. I feel that racism is alive in ALL races. In every race, there are scumbags, just as there are very honorable people. The white community has many very disappointing people in it. My grandparents own a farm. Due to that, I am often tossed into the stereotype of "racist farm boy." That is far from the truth. My two best friends are not white. One is Mexican, and the other is Pakistani. I have no problem with them being my best friends. Obviously, if I go with a black friend into an all black neighborhood, I feel out of place. I think anyone would feel that way stepping into any place where the predominant race is not your own. I do not think that is being racist, as just feeling out of where I normally am. It is not that I am in fear, just that I know people are watching me because as much as I feel like I am out of my norm, they feel I am an outsider just as much.

On that note, I do feel that some races are more racist than others. For example, if a black person kills a white family, it was a murder. If a white person kills a black family, it was a hate crime, and is considered racist. How is that right? Shouldn't they both either be considered racism and hate crimes, or both just murders? The same applies to any race, but it is most predominant with black people and white people.

Another example: United Negro College Fund. What happens if I try to make a college fund that is ONLY for white people? I will certainly be called a racist. Does anyone see the double standard?

Miss Black America. If I tried to have Miss White America, I would be a racist.

Black Entertainment Television. Again, same thing applies.

NAACP. If I made an organization that was to only help promote white people, I would again be considered a racist.

My grandpa owned a 3 person air conditioning repair company. It was him, a white friend of his, and a Mexican worker too. They all worked perfectly together. One day, department of labor knocked on the door and told him he needed to hire at least one black employee, or he would lose the business license. He was willing to hire a black person. A week into the man working there, roughly $3000 in tools and parts were stolen from my grandpa, and were found in the black employees possession. My grandpa promptly fired him(as I feel should have been done to ANY employee who stole from him). Less than a week later, his business was shut down because he was racist in firing the black employee. Is that fair in any way?

Also, to the comments about the white men going over and enslaving people. White people did nothing to enslave Africans. The Zulu tribe sold prisoners from other tribes as slaves to the white man. This was not the white man's fault. I am not saying the numerous killings of black people committed by the whites was justified. That was very wrong. Black people are people too. However, at the time, black people were seen as animals. They were seen as a tool. Same as a cow was seen as a tool to pull a plow.

I get angry when I go to a predominantly black neighborhood and hear black people complaining about not being able to get a job, but at the same time, not having completed high school. Most jobs require a college degree, or a high school diploma as a bare minimum. When I hear these people say that they are being held back because of the places not hiring them, that irritates me. I understand that not everyone can afford to go to college. I am very aware of that. However, finishing public school is easy. Complete that, and you already have a much better chance of being successful. I don't feel that any business should just give a job to someone if they are not qualified. There are always jobs out there. Even now, there are still jobs out there. The problem with our society as a whole is that people want prestigious jobs. Not all jobs are lovely jobs. Not many people want to be a janitor. They feel the job is below them. But at that same time, I know that a business nearby has had a job opening for a janitor now for over 3 months. One person applied, but he failed the drug screening. For three months, that job has been out there. Too many people are too proud and don't want a job that they feel is "below" them.

Now on my next topic, DO NOT use slavery as why I as a white person owe you anything. I am sorry for what the white people did in the past. It was wrong. That being said, there is nothing I can do to change it. I was not a part of it, nor were any black people who are alive today. All races have been oppressed at some time.

And having said all that, yes, I do believe that black people are becoming more racist. Sorry If that offends anyone. That is just my personal opinion.


Johhn 5 years ago

Excusing racist behavior against whites as being "reactionary" is pure ignorance. Two wrongs never make a right. Do they think somehow a single second of history will change if they act like fools in the present?

Claiming hate speech, aggressive posturing, etc. is not "racism", just prejudice, is similarly ignorant. Thinking all people with "white" skin have the same life experiences & benefits is the same mentality as grouping blacks into one box.

It's unfortunate that black people that try to express themselves in a non-stereotypical manner are accused of not being "black enough". Even president Obama was initially publicly accused of this by members of the black community. In fact black support went overwhelmingly to Hillary until Obama won a few of the initial primaries held in PREDOMINANTLY WHITE STATES.

It's too bad we can't just move all the stupid people who cling to double standards, white/black/etc, somewhere where they won't bother the rest of us who are willing to give each other the benefit of the doubt.


Mari 5 years ago

can I ask something? why is it that it's ok to call white people white, iffy to call black people black, and completely wrong to call asian people yellow, arab people brown etc etc quite honestly I find it all quite silly. And I have to say I enjoy stereotype jokes not because 'blonde people are actually stupid' or 'black people love watermelons and fried chicken(I don't even know where it comes from)' but usually these are based on some silly half truth who knows when, and when I read a joke like that I'm not laughing at the race/person/etc I'm laughing at the stereotype because it's just so silly.

But yeah, I find it terrible that people tend to segregate themselves. I came from St.Albert Alberta(Canada) and everyone got along (well ofcourse there were occasional conflicts with certain people in different cliques, but it had nothing to do with race or hair colour) and it was all mixed (although I've never grown up with many black people, don't know why, I guess there just aren't too many in the areas I've lived).

But when I moved to BC there was SO much separation it made me uneasy. The spanish kids would mainly be with the spanish kids, same with the germans, arabs, koreans, chinese ect. Sometimes it's due to shyness since a lot of people here are exchange students, but racism here is realy bad when it comes to the Koreans, even the ones who came here when they were young. Out of the many Koreans I know(or know of) I can only say that one or two of them don't say they hate anyone who isn't Korean ESPECIALLY white people. The two korean girls I'm friends with are only friendly to me because we've been out together and had fun and I knew a mutual friend who they considered had 'old asian customs' because she was polite ;:|

I consider myself very polite, and to be fair I get annoyed when people ask me if I'm Korean/Chinese when I'm really not...I have (dyed)black hair, round face, big eyes, big lips, small widish nose, fair olive skin and brown eyes, and like to dress feminine I can;t really help it but because I'm afraid of asian people saying I'm a 'wannabe' for the way I look. Honestly it's really not fun when people think you think that it's all GLORIOUS NIPPON KAWAII DESU ;:|.

It's to the point where I want to get my hair back to it's natural colour(strawberry blonde) just so MAYBE the comments go away. Honestly, it would be like me saying an asian person is a wannabe for wearing jeans and liking pancakes....so stupid. people are people, as said in fight club "You are not special. Your are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else"

The black people here are pretty much the same as the white people as far as I know (again I don't see many black people around town unless it's at a bank or some other job, but there aren't too many in the area I live. Don't know why)

But the race groups (again, mainly asian(including arabic)) consider you white washed if you don't know how to speak____.

I once was told by this kid named Ali that he only talked to me because he thought I was native and was surprised to know I'm italian/scottish and that black isn't my real hair colour, it's expensive to get out though....

And a guy I know who is 1/2 native doesn't have to pay for ANY of his schooling because he's native and he's going through 6-8yrs of musical training or something like that as a director/teacher. I'm wanting to be an animator or something to do with child therapy and that will cost $40k+ depending on which school I go to due to having to pay for living expenses as well.

As far as doctors and such go they are all professional. But store keepers and restaurant owners(again it really is mostly chinese and Koreans; unless it's taxing because yeah, the arabs just hire family from over seas) are so bad they will ONLY hire their same race as servers and such which gives a lot of difficulty for people like me, and it's unerving when you can understand a couple of words and sentences and know they're talking trash about you :/. I don't dislike ____ people but I do hate how certain people act....example again with Koreans since there are a lot here and they're pretty openly racist with eachother about others and one thing they always say is how "loud and obnoxious white people are" my friend Ellen who is Korean, speaks it and all(has her two "race faces") has to be the loudest and most obnoxious person I know. She is SO hyper, and her voice is so loud that her normal voice is basically yelling :/

to put it simply, every race has the same type of people somewhere in it's population. There are no special snowflakes in the world and everybody has their own problems with varying degrees of severity. Stop pretending you are and just get a long with everybody else already


Luvlee25 5 years ago

I think, Lawretta, that you have a very beautiful, open, and accepting mind. I like your ability to see a problem, hear opinions, and maintain a good composure. Just to add my own mix to this conversation I would like to say that I have never owned slaves of any skin pigmentation, I have never personal or purposely oppressed anybody, and I have never hated anybody because of their DNA. So, I have felt very frustrated by the comments of the 'evils of the white people and how it was our fault' when I can not be held responsible for what my ancestors may or may not have done. As far as I know, my ancestors were too poor to own slaves. They felt their own oppression through their economic status, but I do not hate rich people for making my ancestors poor. According to what I have read in history books, slaves of all kinds of pigmentation have appeared in many different civilizations, including African civilizations. The Aztecs had slaves, the Romans had slaves, the Chinese had slaves, etc. Slavery was, and never has been, just localized to the American region or the white race.

Now I have a question for the people that talk of how oppressed black people are today. Please do not take this the wrong way because I am simply curious. How have you been personally oppressed? Not your ancestors or something you heard. What are your personal experiences?

I can accept that some white people are racist, but it would be nice for the general public to accept that other people besides 'white people' are responsible for the negative, racist hatred that exists. Just as an example, when my sister started dating her now husband, she had very hateful girls at school (who did have dark skin) say mean things to her about it. Along the lines of "why are you trying to steal our black men, white girl?" She ignored them because she knew that they were simply expressing jealousy in the only way that they knew how, and she does not hate them even though they caused her a lot of distress from their bullying.

Why feel anger for differences when we should accept our individuality. I love my differences and I love my human race's differences because it makes us interesting. Thank you Lawretta.


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lawretta 5 years ago from England Author

thanks Luvlee25 for the complement, acknowledgment and comment. you have really made great points in your comment. thank you


JZ 5 years ago

You might not have realized it earlier, being black (and thus likely to avoid racism from fellow blacks), but yes, coming from other minorities' perspectives, blacks have been racist for a while.

Asians in particular are targeted by blacks in black heavy neighborhoods. In schools with over 50% black students, Asians are bullied, harassed, and assaulted. It's never made out to be racism despite cries to the contrary by victims, and the Asian communities themselves are being too polite or scared/cowardly to say anything about it.

I hear a lot of retroactive justification over this ("Asians are racist, so it's ok to attack them"), but the retribution for perceived racism shouldn't have to be violence.

I still don't judge individuals by the color of their skin, but I just don't see the black community at large address the inter-minority racism directed outwards.


JZ 5 years ago

Hi Lawretta, sorry it's JZ again. Just to add another comment.

That you're actually asking this question "are black people becoming racist" is both discouraging and encouraging to me at the same time.

It's discouraging to hear a reasonably intelligent sounding individual such as yourself asking this question. The question is inherently racist, because it suggests surprise or lack of awareness that one ethnic/racial group of people (black people) can be racist. Of course they can. Any group of people can be racist, not just the majority (in America, white people). Racism isn't monopolized by any one race.

Unfortunately, it's something that I see a lot of black people, unlike yourself, have not begun to realize yet.

I volunteered for and donated to underprivileged innercity kids. I voted in favour of programs I thought would help black communities fight what I presumed were keeping black individuals from success. I really only want to feel sympathy and empathy for blacks...

... but I can't help but feel disconnected when I hear about fellow Asians... family, friends, family of friends, and so on... fearing not whites, but black people. This isn't unjustified fear enforced by media either. This is coming from many different types of Asian Americans (southeast, south, east.. many asians) who go to school with black people. I read in the news, I hear from friends, I experience these things, racism from black people. I never hear these interethnic conflicts in schools in which most of the population is white or Asian. They always come from schools in which most of the population is black.

The racist remarks I hear about Asians (like how "Asians are racist", jokes about our genitalia, insults about our stinginess, insinuations that we're communists, declaring that Asians lack leadership qualities while blacks have Obama, etc; it's really ridiculous) these days I hear coming mostly from black people. Not white people. Get this, I've RARELY suffered racism or heard of racism from other Asians that was instigated by white people. Almost always black.

These racist and hateful feelings I seem to only get from black people (and these have nothing to do with the media)... It's really tearing me apart, because I often get the feeling that if this hate goes on, I'm going to turn racist myself... because despite my best efforts to judge by other non-racial/ethnic factors, the heuristics all boil down to some connection to race. But I don't want that for myself.

Maybe I am just meeting the wrong people. MAYBE, but I like to think I'm a pretty worldly person. I've lived in many parts of the US as well as out of the US, and still, your questions on whether black people are becoming racist, as innocent as they may be, are probably some of the most introspective I've heard from the black community, and I try to say that with the utmost sensitivity. I just don't see black leaders introspectively addressing racism coming from the black community itself or reigning racist black youths that are becoming more frequent.

A lot is discouraging... but what I can say is encouraging is that I finally heard some introspection on this. I can only hope more people like you become leaders in your community.


Richo_AUS 5 years ago

Hi All

Im from Australia. We are getting a beat up in international media at the moment about how rascist we are.

I had never experienced rascism until the age of 35. I come from a small isolated mining town in the island state of Tasmania. The majority of its residents trace their family origins from every part of the world.

There was no ethnic communities, over the 120 years the town has been there all the immigrants had intermingled, married, had children, etc.

Some children had characteristics of many different ethnic backgrounds, ie skin colour variations and facial looks. No one cared.

The town is ridiculed by the rest of the state, due to remoteness. We were apparently inbreeds,incests, all the usual stuff - nothing about ethnic origins.

Myself I am a mix of Italian, Swiss, Irish, English and Aboriginal Australian. I and everyone else classifies me as an Australian. We were taught rascism was bad, equality and all that stuff at school, we NEVER SAW IT.

Come forward 20 years, working in a factory in the second largest city in the state. The city is full of every ethnic group, a centre for refugees and immigrants.

All these groups segregate THEMSELVES, not the white people. They dont like us for some reason, yet there are also people from these groups who assimilate and are easily accepted by the local community.

Anyway we had an apprentice start with us. The company sponsored his immigration. He is from the Ivory Coast - West Africa. He is very educated and an avid follower/wants to be, of the American Black Culture, ie Hip Hop, gangsta, etc.

He caused so much trouble I wont even try to go into detail. I am not stereotyping here, but he didnt want to work. He would hide from the supervisors and try to do nothing all the time. We have to work hard to keep our jobs.

This caused issue with other employees as no one thought it was fair that he wouldnt work as we did. Someone commented to him once that he needs to walk with us, not lag 20m behind all the time and to show enthusiasm. Immediately he branded us rascists and were making racial comments about the way he walked???

It got out of control. The bought in the anti rasiscm commision and we all were given official warnings and had to do training on rascism??

During my time there he tried to fight about 50% of the people who were supposed to be his work mates. He is a big strong man. Everytime it was our fault. Eventually he got the manager sacked for being a rascist??

I became his friend and tried to help him because I could see he was going to be all alone. This caused me problems with the work team, not rasism, but they couldnt understand why I was helping this troublesome person.

To be honest over time I found him to be the most rascist person I have ever encountered, yet he was the first person to accuse anyone else of rascism. He hated asians, I got an asian girlfriend and I became a focus for his rascism.

He was extremely rascist towards other African ethnic groups. He wouldnt even talk to other Africans if they werent from West Africa. The only "brotherhood" he claimed was West Africa and any African American. Yet he would firmly state when I questioned him that he isnt rascist, he cant be because of his skin colour. Only asians and white people can be rascist??

During the time of our friendship, about 3 yrs, he continually used me. He borrowed money and items, which I will never see again. I lent him the use of my motor vehicle for prolonged periods of time, helped him and his african friends with electrical work(Im an electrician), took him on trips around our state, etc. I never once asked for anything from him in return.

When it came to the point where I was concerned about the money he owed me and all the items of mine he had borrowed and not returned I asked for them back. He got upset then said I was calling him a thief, accused me of being rascist, threatened to bash me then ended our friendship.

Since then he has made many accusations about me to the workplace and tried to get me sacked. The problem is though is the workplace knew of the efforts I went to help him, so there are no issues for me.

I have given up on seeing my money and possesions returned yet he still continues to harrass, villify and persecute me, I really dont get it?

I met a lot of other Africans through this person and from my impressions I have to say, they are all very rascist. They are all very much on the defensive, nothing they do is their fault. They preach what is not true. All their histories lead to the statement "(insert race here) caused that problem for them".

I know someone will call me rascist for writing this, I dont mind because Im not rascist. I have never done anything rascist. The only slaves our country has ever had were white, they were called convicts, were were originally a penal settlement for England.

And to the people who believe only whites were slavers, get over it. Europe banned slavery people. Read history books. The king of Ethiopia was horrified when England banned slavery.

Without starting a religious war, the muslims were the great slavers of recorded history. They conquered Africa a long time before Europe did.

Look at southern Europe, ask yourself why the Spanish have dark skin, because Muslim African conquered Spain. The Europeans took control from the Arabs and the Africans in 1492. It wasnt a one way street people. In the late 700's the still white north part of spain had to give 100 white virgins every year to the Muslim invaders to save being annihalted.

Every ethnic group has done something to other ethnic groups. The world is so intermixed these days that I dont believe the oblem is rascism, its ethnicism. Why else are there gang wars between same coloured people? Its due to the small groups that form and bond

At the moment Sydney is having Lebanese Vs Lebanese gang wars. Apparently because the Lebanese form into their little groups based on where in Lebanon they are from.

Accusations of rascism deflect and obfusucate the real issues. If everytime I got into trouble I could hide behind rascism Id probably do it too.

People say rascism is taught. What about thievery, violence, lack of desire for an education, etc. I think they are taught as well. If all races desired to better themselves, avoid violence, gain education, work hard, etc then we would all be the same.

If my dad had shown me the easy way to make money was to steal, then maybe that is what Id do. He showed me how to work hard for it. Communities get trapped in cycles. No matter your colour or ethnic background people dont like to admit their faults, and if its possible to blame a broad spectrum of people, ie race for your problems that is the easy way out.


WhinerBozo 5 years ago

Enough is Enough! The conscious/unconscious mantra of the third largest majority in the United States - African-Americans per the 2000 census (haven't checked the 2010 census yet)is: If it's white, it ain't right!


MC Souared 5 years ago

Black people ARE more racist that all other races. They are against oppression and racism, yet THEY are the most racist and oppressive now. I am a Native, so don't go thinking I'm against minorities, but we have to realize a few things:

1) Obama is NOT Black - he is 6.25% Black, 43.75% Arab, and 50% Caucasian.

2) Obama is NOT the first part-Black president - he is the SIXTH. There are several books that outline this very clearly - one written by a Black man.

3) Obama DID get elected by a racist vote - peoople WANTED a Black to be in office. This is RACISM. Racism is when someone feels superior to another race. Blacks THINK they have larger organs, are better atheletes, better dancers ... THIS IS RACISM!!! And after saying "there is no difference except for skin colour".

Aso, there ARE differences in races - thinking there arent is both niave and uneducated. We Natives hve a SLEW of things that we can't metabolize (carbohydrates), and Blacks have a slow of things that - medically speaking - makes Blacks different: inherent high blood pressure to name one of about 70. I have 4 physicians in the family, so don't think of a rebuttal.

If Blacks want to end racism, STOP BEING RACIST IN YOUR MUSIC, movies, and in public!! And if "Black is beautiful", then STOP DATING ONLY WHITE GIRLS. PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH!!


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Y. Kajitaka 5 years ago from Cartersville, GA

I'm a 20-year-old white girl, and I've been working in my family's restaurant since I was 16. We're really informal, sit-down-at-the-table-with-you type folks, and we get to know our customers really well. There've been occasions where some black folks came in, and in the end I'd feel like crying. The one I was there for personally was an older gentleman coming in and asking "Is the owner prejudiced?" after looking at my dad. I felt horrified. I couldn't reassure him enough that my dad was fair. The one daddy told me about himself brought me to tears- a black family came in one Sunday afternoon, and asked if we served black folks. Yes, we do.

My heart breaks when I see the effect racism has had. Cut our wrists- we all bleed red.


Firbolg 5 years ago

Hi, thanks for the article.

I'd like to add a recent experience. I live in East London, am English born of Irish parents and my husband is Russian (we are both white).

Recently our neighbour (a black female from Barbados) shoueted abuse at my husband including the phrase "you go back to where you came from...you can't come here...etc".

My husband, exasperated at this woman's behaviour (a long running show of anti-social behaviour towards us)reported her to our police station and when spoken to by the police about her behaviour, she told the officer "I'm not racist, I'm black" which was accepted as a resolution of the matter by the officer.

I am the only one who sees the absurdity in this? I think that had the situation been reveresed and my husband had shouted such abuse at her it would be regarded as a serious matter by the police as the law is not supposed to leave room for tolerance of racism. I'm pretty depressed at the double standards shown in this case.


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connie21 5 years ago from Under your bed!

This is a great hub!!!!!! Im mixed with white and black and i have to say that its equal on both end. Most of my white side was racist and my black side too. I really did not know where to fit in. It was very hard for me


silverfish 5 years ago

This has been an interesting and enlightening read. Lawretta has done a very graceful job at handling comments and not swaying from her stance of mutual respect and truth.

I am white. I don't give a d*amn what race someone is. Ever. I grew up in an area that is known as the whitest state in America. Rarely did I hear racist comments, and if I did it was coming from like the worst of the worst uneducated rednecks/druggies. Those few people were in their own world, and not respected by anyone.

Want to know the demonic inside world of a white person? OK: One time I heard one of these rednecks make a comment about black people having big lips. A nearby white girl actually started crying and screaming at them because she was so horrified that someone could say something racist like that. I've been that white girl too. My school also had a huge complex about it's lack of diversity-- weekly we would have some sort of cultural display or performance and we would learn about and get to meet other races and cultures, with a Q&A where we were urged to ask any question as long as it was respectful. The topic of racism was directly discussed often. I've also seen people get expelled for making comments that could be slightly considered racist against black people.

Fast forward, I now live in New York, in a poor, developing neighborhood that only recently was very dangerous to live in. Now it's just sort of dangerous. I still have my anti-racist beliefs, and am struggling to barely pay rent each month and cover the cost of food. Most of my clothing is thrifted and it's all falling apart/stained. Once I saved up money from working three jobs and was able to buy a nice black coat for the winter. I'm thinking of going to college (was homeless due to abusive family and it took a while to pick myself up), but the system is really hard to break into and I feel embarrassed about getting aid from the govt.

Why am I telling you all this personal cry baby stuff? This reason: All of my non-racist beliefs don't seem to mean much to my neighbors (mainly black and various Spanish descent). That black coat that took me almost a whole year to save up for is constantly criticized by black people when I walk down the street. When I wear thrift store stuff too. I guess they think I'm rich because I have good taste in clothes. Or maybe it's just because I'm white. Either way, they look at me with pure hatred and make tons of comments/making fun of me/following me/screaming/trying to startle me so they can get a laugh/etc. If they only knew, I probably had much less than they do. No way I can afford to buy sneakers, I buy one pair of functional boots a year, if that.

I'm sick of blacks trying to "spook" me by singing loudly, coming up in my face, trying to say "white bi*ch" loudly in my vicinity to instigate a fight, etc etc etc.

These people dominate the welfare offices and such too, and I'm having a hard time trying to get up the nerve to try for medicaid and whatever because I know it's going to be extremely taxing for this reason. The last time my boyfriend (a tall gangly Irish guy) tried to get medical insurance the black lady at the counter screamed in his face "NEXT" and started cackling before she even saw his info. He said she was rude and she went all ballistic on him, with the support of everyone in the room. Yeah, I'm not looking forward to it.

I still don't let these people taint my dealings with educated, kind black people (or any race), but it is really infuriating/saddening, and a huge drain. Makes me angry that I can't say anything to them or else be called a racist, yet they can act like I'm rich and whatever while they collect benefits and have steady jobs and a college education.

This is manipulation. I honestly am starting to believe that they know better. It's a common game and they know exactly what they are doing, they must. No one can be that ignorant even if they do blow off school. I'm not falling for it anymore, next time some loud black teenager yells cracker in my face when I'm just trying to get to work, I'm going to scare the crap out of them.

Last thing I want to mention is this: Lawretta had a good point bringing this up, but look at all the comments/all the energy being put into these petty thinly veiled racist replies. IF YOU PEOPLE PUT HALF AS MUCH ENERGY INTO COMING TOGETHER AND HELPING YOUR COMMUNITY OR OTHERS IN THE WORLD REGARDLESS OF YOUR STUPID SEMANTICS, THERE WOULD ALL BE A LOT MORE MONEY TO GO AROUND FOR ALL OF US, AND THE FACELESS RICH BASTARDS CONTROLLING THE ENTIRE WOULD WOULD NOT HAVE SO MUCH CONTROL OVER ALL OF US. GET EDUCATED PEOPLE! ENOUGH OPINIONS ALREADY! OUR WORLD IS SUFFERING, WE ARE SUFFERING! Let's get back to reality!

Women of all races are suffering as well. As Yoko Ono sang once "Woman is the n****r of the world"


hugh 5 years ago

hi all.i live in regent park in toronto,a high crime,public housing neibourhood,and i have to say yes,blacks have overtaken whites in the racism dept.

much of this i blame on the parents for passing on an outmoded idea to their children.the"blame whitey,call each other nigga,only cause i'm black" is a hangover from the 60's, and totally non-productive.

bringing race to the forefront of every issue,can only serve to make it more of an issue!

seems to me,the best way to stop making race an issue,is to stop making it an issue!


alisha 5 years ago

lawretta it is easy for you to forget slave trade you are in africa we live in america and we all know it was different for us here. it is comments like stephanies that burn like fuel to a fire. she is scared of her black neighbors therfore she has differnt views on blacks as a whole. bottom line it just pure ingnorence.


Stanley 5 years ago

Lawretta black people are not becoming more racist. What is going on is a backlash at the treatment that goes on day after day. Think about it for a second if you grew up in a community where everyday you go out to shop or eat people fearfully stare at you for no apparent reason would you like that? If you lived in a place where the media night after night demonized your race as criminals would that not affect you? If you had to go above and beyond in showing your intelligence to not be stereotyped by white people that wouldnt bother you? Lastly if you had to worry about being pulled over and harassed while abiding by the law that wouldnt take a toll? Its not white people's burden to change these things and Im sure they won't they look at a couple bad apples and try to stereotype the bunch while we have to deal with institutional racism in law and media. So I believe blacks still have a valid argument in this country things havent changed much and for the most part the so called "black racism" is there because of injustice. Ask yourself this if things were actually fair for black people would they really waste time hating another race? I think not.


Richo_AUS 5 years ago

Hi Again,

Im not being antagonistic, just stating my view.

First Im from Australia, not USA.

Stanley - Youre blaming the white people. Its their fault black people hate them?

My world is very different to yours but I have found, if I try, I can always trace fault back to myself, the majority of time.

I cant watch your media, but please tell me, are only black peoples crimes shown on the news, or does it show both, or all, ethnicities crimes? Obviously the "worst" crimes get the most coverage?

I have found that I am more aware of things I dont like than things I do.

Take an independant look at the media. We get the worst of what happens from America on our media and I cant say that its mainly of black people. Its more so white people in my opinion.

I look at the sporting world and see it full of black people from all over the world. A lot of our basketball clubs import black americans to play - because individually they are better than the available talent.

In our unique National Sport AFL, the clubs look for the most gifted athletes, and quite often that means "not white" - because they are individually better.

I now work in the power industry, it is full of black people at the engineering levels - because they are individually better. The lower levels arent because not many black people live in my state. Its a small island.

I wrote a post a while back, it is above somewhere. Read it and you will see my experience with a black person. He caused all his own problems. He has this desire to see everyone who isnt black as a rascist.

Im not saying you or any other black person is the same as him. Im just giving my view from my world so maybe you can see what I see and understand its not the fault of every white man and stop doing what we are all ways accused of.

Rascism is the stero typing of a race. I mean honestly look at it this way, your post indicates that the majority of white people, enforce, support, etc rascism in USA. Thats stero typing, thats rascism.

Its not a good feeling to be accused of rascism when you arent a rascist.


gen willis 5 years ago

what?!black people becoming racist?are you kidding us?why would you ask such a rediculas question?moron,only white people can only be racists.minorities are totaly absloved from that catigory.are black people becoming racists.what do you think?


amhealy 5 years ago

yes, blacks are racist. Not all of them, but I am noticing an increase in behavior that indicates racism. Three times since Obama was elected I have heard rants in or outside of grocery stores by Black people about how much they hate White people, and how now it's the Black people's turn to show what it's like. (That's the gist of what I heard.)

I have a Black friend who says that I must be a racist because I don't like how Obama is doing his job. He says he only voted for Obama because Obama is White.

I don't hear any White people being racist against Blacks, but I hear on the news and in articles how Black people are accusing the Tea Party and Republicans of being racist. No examples are given.

If I was given three wishes, one of those wishes would be that there had never been slavery in the first place. I used to not care about race, but now, especially since Obama was elected, I am very aware of race, because I am now aware just how much Black people hate White people.


Johnny 5 years ago

wonderful hub full of thoughts! I am a white male. I often look at the perceived beginning of slave trade.African slave trade was actually built on the system used for white slaves. You can do a little history digging and find out how black slaves treated white slaves. I'm not talking about indentured servants, i am talking about life long white slaves. The true bottom of the barrel. why not mentions the free black men who also owned black slaves? Somehow it's always about the white men enslaving the black man. Anyway, i saw some of the earlier comments more or less saying that it's the white mans fault. I'm not gonna refute this statement. I will however ask this, Even if it is the white mans fault, How can two wrongs make a right? I put this as a test for any of your readers on the double standard you talk about. Go to any major website on the internet like espn or fox and type the "N" word. see if that is filtered. After you do that try typing in some of these words. Cracker honky redneck hillbilly white trash. Unfortunately it's one sided. i saw a comment saying that blacks don't have the power or the money to be racists that they cannot oppress the white man. I say look at our professional sports leagues as an example. The white athlete is being phased out. The black mans reasoning is we are superior. That sounds pretty empowering to me. Unfortunately until we can find a balance in our everyday lives, which may not happen in our lifetime the problem will exist on both sides of the coin. Those who have power do not give it up easily. Those who do not have power seek it. What we are is in the middle of something that will be in history books hundreds of years from now as the great struggle to find ourselves.


Michael 5 years ago

I appreciate the original article and all the comments here. I moved from rural Kansas to DC a few years ago, and I'm still adjusting to the racial tensions. Honestly, it's helpful just to have a forum to hear what different sectors of the black community think and how they see things (along with the social factors that influenced their perceptions). Whether or not some comments are "accusatory", it's helpful to know where different people are coming from. It informs future interactions.

I'll admit that I'm guilty of the "sidewalk suspicion" in certain neighborhoods. I know that's profiling, but most of the hostility I've encountered in such situations is from black people. As a mostly white guy, it's an awkward and genuinely unwanted feeling to have. I live next to black people, I work with (and for) black people. But in a lot of cases, I also feel they always maintain a social distance because I'm not black. But maybe that's just me being guilty of the same sort of false assumptions as the black guy who thinks the store security guard is always watching him. I don't know. Part of what makes it difficult is the fear of bringing it up and just talking about it.

I can also understand the point of view from those that grew up with open, tolerated racism. My grandfather was a legit, embarrassing racist (born entirely of ignorance and social environment; I doubt that he ever knew and rarely actually encountered a black person). If a black person my father's age only knew my grandfather, I could entirely understand why he would be suspicious of me the first time we met.


Mateo 5 years ago

I've read every comment. Considered the points made by all. I find one truly dangerous; the idea that racism goes in one direction, white to black; some on this board see racism as a genetic phenomena inherent only to caucasians (although too ignorant to realize). Any person or group that hates another because they believe they are genetically superior (even if that superiority comes in the form of an incapability to hate or be racist)... shame.


Wyssa 4 years ago

So, it took me a while, but I read all the comments. Very thought provoking, and a really good article. Thank You. :) I will now add my two cents. I live in a farming community, and we have a TON of immigrants. A lot of these immigrants think they are "gangsta" and "black". Though really, the african-american percentage is not very high at all where I live. So I'm not sure if it would be considered the same, but they seem to have the same mind set.

Now for me, going to school was very hard. I am very pale, with platinum blonde hair and light blue eyes. Everyday, people would ask me if I was Albino, they would call me a ghost, cracker, white girl, ugly etc. They would spit on me, and try to instigate fights as well. History was the hardest subject for me. When we talked about slavery, and especially WWII I became this... demon to them. I really don't want to talk much about it.

Otherwise I was often left alone and told I couldn't understand anything because I was a "gringo". Also the only caucasian people at my school tried to be "black", they would tan their skin and dye their hair, and talk "ghetto". Only girls with dark skin, and dark hair were considered beautiful or even attractive and "normal" there.

It was really hard for me, because I had a crush on a boy with dark skin for years. I accidentily talked about him with a close friend, and coincidentily the whole school bullied me after that saying "You can't like him! Your a pasty white $%&@*!" and spit on me, tore up my stuff, and basically malicious acts of well not very nice things.

Now, I've also had lots of good experiences with them too. Over time I made lots of friends, and asked about the double standard once. Apparently, they don't really understand it either but they continue to call themselves the N word and the B word as a friendly greeting, and call me the "albino chick".

But this is not as bad as what happened to my good friend. She has shocking red hair, and was the only caucasian girl at an all african-american school. She got beaten half to death and raped in the 3rd grade just because she was "white", and not just by those older than her too.

For years, I wanted to dye my hair and tan my skin, but not anymore. I'm happy now, just the way I am, and I found people who are great friends to me, of all different "races". :)


Anonymouse 4 years ago

Becoming? I'd say quite a few have been, for quite awhile now. Not all obviously, you have the author here, and others, plenty more I know personally. But it is becoming a rising problem and it is not good. When Europeans('whites') come under attack they seek solace and protection among each other. This in turn forms entire groups of people harmed by this racism, which then begin to retaliate in kind.

I imagine this is why there's been a recent surge in members of racist groups across the country. In short, the rise of black on white racism, is leading to a resurgence of the acceptance of white on black racism, threatening to undo decades of positive change and spitting on everything those people fought for.

This has to be stopped now while it still can be, but it will take a combined and equal effort among all races.

I'm also getting tired of the 'white man deserves it' bullshit. It is insulting. All Europeans are not responsible for the plight of the /African American/ slaves. You have the British and Spanish to thank for that. Quit lumping us all together, we are not the same.

I am /Polish/. My ancestors Never owned slaves. It was not practiced in the home country, it was frowned upon, Poland has always been tolerant and accepting of peaceful peoples. When the rest of Europe stood against the Jews Poland welcomed them with open arms. Today, Poland is still one of the most peaceful and tolerant countries on this Earth.

Indeed, my people were oppressed and enslaved themselves, by many peoples. But we neither seek revenge, nor handouts.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks for reminding me about Britain, lol. Nice Comment.


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accofranco 4 years ago from L Island

hahaha.....Lawry....nice one, haven't taking notice of it....happy new year and val ahead...thumbs up!


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

lol. Thanks Mate!


Will from Britain 4 years ago

Black people can't be racist, to be be racist you must be able to discriminate, to have power over a group of people. As white people own all the companies, institutions, TV stations ect they have the power to decide which black people they employ, black people dont decide. Adopting black children does nothing for racism, all your doing is bringing a black person into a white culture. Brad and Angelina dont hang around with groups of black friends, they'd have to make an efffort and move out of their rich white privilaged suburb to do that. Their are lots of white overweight singers in the UK far more succesful than most, its just nowdays the white people who own the records lables accept that black people can also sing. Who cares if Obama is intelligent, the fact is yes a black man is president of the united states in the hope that he would actually make a stand for black people. All this shows is that a qualified black man can make it to the highest office. How much power does he have as a black man if every single one of his associates is white? How much has he done for the black people of america? He's living a white lifestyle by a western white culture. Many black people have money and are richer than most white folk, but compared to rich white folk it really is a minority. Take music artists, Kanye West ect, earn millions through record lables controlled by white people, they accept the western 'white' way of life, live the western culture and do absolutely nothing for the majority of black people. And comedians being "racist" towards whites?! Verbal Racism is just empty words. You can call someone a name but words by themselves carry no weight. I could call women bitches when they're not bitches, it's just words. Its the history and association behind the words that carry the weight, depending on the receiver's understanding. That history and association comes from a place of power to instil that derogatory and belittling meaning to the receiver or minority or people in a group that hold no power making them feel inferior. If black people have no power, how on earth can they be racist?! Racism and the words associated with it are all words invented by white people, its a social construct and because of this has no clear cut definition, but defines that a group with power discriminates a group with no power, basically meaning white people discriminate black people. To even try to turn this around is racist within itself. So no, unless black people control and have power over another race, and become richer than white people as a whole, they can not discriminate, there fore they can not be Racists.

I'm white by the way in case your wondering.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Will, Nice words. Now am Confuse. lol


Richo_AUS 4 years ago

@Will - So the majority of black people being bigger, stronger, faster, etc does not give them power over anyone?? Where in any definition of Rascism does it say one must have power over another to be rascist? The world power structure is rapidly changing. So why whilst being currently all powerful, is the white race allowing these changes, which will dramatically change our status in the world? People can empower themselves, it doesnt require white people to empower others.


Richo_Aus 4 years ago

Also have you ever actually got to know a black African African? Not an American or British or French African but a genuine African African?

They are extremely rascist between their African countries, also individually against different ethnic black people within their own country.

Go to an African country, with Black people in power, and then tell me that Black people do not do these types of things to their own race. They are extremely discramatory against other ethnic communities or tribes.

Rascism is basically discrimination against a race is it not? If so what is the difference between that and discrimination against another ethnic community of the same race?

If you can discriminate against your own race, why is it impossible to discriminate against another race?

You align the asking of this question with being rascist, yet the author of the question is black herself, then you also state she cannot be rascist as she is black? Interesting paradox


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Richo_Aus,

I did enjoy reading your comments but I would like us to get something straight. Discrimination (tribal or cultural) in definition and usage is different from Racism.

According to Collins English Dictionary, 2011 edition; Racism is... hostile attitude or behaviour to members of other races, based on a belief in the innate superiority of one’s own race... on the other hand, Discrimination is ... to single out (a particular person or group) for worse or better treatment than others...

The differences occurring in Africa amongst Africans is not racism, but rather discrimination based on tribal or cultural differences. It’s totally different from racism. When an African succeeds in any international event, we all celebrate as one, but when it comes to doing or sharing something within us, then we discriminate. I think it’s just natural, it’s nothing compared to racism.


Rich_Aus 4 years ago

Hi Lawretta, thanks for the comments.

But your statements sort of back my view, I think :)

I was responding to Wills comments and what he was saying. Quote "but defines that a group with power discriminates a group with no power".

Then he states that Black people have no power. Hence my examples of Africa.

I dont mean to be argumentative and apologise if I am seen that way.

In my opinion many different members of the Worlds races discriminate against other races.

Looking at your definition, again maybe black people cant be rascist - if they dont feel they are superior. Then what does that make them if they still hate white people? Race Haters?


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

@ Rich_Aus; lol, you just so funny. you dont quit do u? nice comment by the way,u make a very good Lawyer. lol. cheers!


Will from Britain 4 years ago

White people will always continue to 'feed' black people small amounts of power to stop black people making a stand.

When the upper class used to enslave black AND white people there was no such thing as race.

It wasnt until the black and white slaves realised that they could have power over their masters and when thier masters realised this, they started giving the white slaves small amounts of land and put them in control of small amounts of black slaves, hence 'feeding' the lower class white people small amounts of power. Now why are children only shown black slaves in schools?

Race is only there to hide the issue of 'class'. Hierarchys have always used examples like Pseudoscientific theorys to make lower class white people feel superior and believe they have nothing in common with lower class black people. This leads white people to have the belief in the innate superiority of one’s own race.

I have bought up the issue with white people that black people cant be rasist and they have all been quick to get defensive and tell me I'm wrong. Now when I bring this up with a black person they are either confused or agree if they have a good knowledge of history. I dont blame black people for hating white people, they should hate the white race, and talking about Africa, especially South Africa you just need to read some of Steve Biko's writings.

I don't mean to be argumentative either, its just nice to hear different views.


Human Being 4 years ago

killthegirls is honestly saying that black people are incapable of being racist?

batshit insane


Jerr 4 years ago

It's not that black people are becoming racist; it's that they are racist & have been racist all along. Trying to put out that racism & slavery only started with America is a lie! What most blacks don't want to admit to is that slavery started well before Europe & blacks are just as guilty of enslaving people. To anybody that actually know history this "let's make white people out to be the ONLY people to enslave" is a joke! Also, this lame attempt to create a fake definition of what "Racism" means to try to dismiss black racism is complete BS. If you hate a race of people or think your raceis superior, you're a racist . . . That's it!


Will from Britain 4 years ago

"Racism is the subjugation of one racial group by another on the basis of an assumed superiority of one over another, with the dominating group having the power, or access to the power, to establish and maintain the system of domination. Within Britain then,white people and white institutions have the power, actual or potential, to discriminate over black people" - Vipin Chauhan, Beyond Steel Bands 'n' Samosas


bob winland 4 years ago

congratulations my fellow brother, you ARE a racist!


Lynn 4 years ago

I am a white woman living a a predominately African American area (south side of Atlanta). My grandparents had nothing to do with slavery. In fact they came to the US to escape WWI. I go out of my way to have African Americans as my closest friends, invite them into my home for dinner, mow their yards, reach out to them in church and in the community. Honestly, I love people and see them as God sees them—created in His image. Then why am I continually accused of being racist? If I'm standing in line at a grocery store my back is to somebody. I try to stand against a wall to make sure I'm not accused of "turning my back" to an African American (several accusations of this). Why are my words twisted and false statements made about me in my work? I try to always put my "jobs" for African Americans ahead of the white clients. Yet, I still get false accusations. I've cried and prayed and wished that I wasn't blond and blue-eyed. I just want people to be people and not obsessed with skin color. Please help me understand.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Well I think you are trying too hard. No one wants you to do things for them or ignore your race for them, that is simply too much. The way I see it, and from ongoing research, there is always going to be "racist believe" and "finger pointing", so just forget about pleasing any race and just do what you think is right.


Tony 4 years ago

Hey......I spent 15 straight years in prison and there were a lot of both races there. You ask ME if blacks are racist...good God...you have no earthly idea. Racist is about as near a term as you could get if you mean the actual hatred of a complete race. Not prejudiced wherein one dislikes just certain members of a particular race. The blacks in prison echoed the pathos of blacks out of prison in that they would kill ALL whites, babies to grandparent if it were possible. There are segments of the white prison population who would do the same to all blacks but that sentiment among whites is far less popular. Whereas, it is almost wholly universal among the blacks. Whites and blacks will never ever truly integrate for the simple fact that there are far too many differences b/t the two races. Cultural, priorities, educational pursuits and just about every type of personal choice. Great number idolize pimps and that, my dear is the very definition of slavery yet they scream, holler and moan about the slavery by whites decades ago. Why is it alright for the blacks to idolize pimps and the slavery that pathetic segment of society specializes in yet will shoot a white person over something that is totally in the past?


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Well, i don't think all blacks idolize pimps. Maybe just a few, and the ones in prison and that's because of their shallow mindset. However,a lot of us are very well educated and have better and bigger priorities in life.

On Jerry Springer's Show i have seen some white pimps have encounters with their women. So i really don't think idolizing pimps relates to the black race only. I think it relates to all shallow minded individuals irrespective of their race.

Thanks all the same for your comment. It is good to hear from different people with different life experience. I just pray racism will be a thing of the past someday!


Will from Britain 4 years ago

Prison is an interesting concept, black and white people locked up in prison hold no power over one another. All the power is held within the people who run the institution. Looking at america, 13 percent of the population are black, yet they make up 50 percent of the prison population. This is a great example of institutional racism within the police force.

This inforces the idea upon the uneducated that black people are dangerous. How many police patrols are in the lower class areas compared to middle class areas? How many black people are kept living in lower class areas due to institutional racism?

Pejudice + Power = Racism

This is the social definition, which makes me think can prison detainees be racist against one another? Verbal racism yes, but can black people be verbally racist against whites. Black people could say they hate us but thats not racism, white people dont have derogatory terms which have come from years of oppression in relation to the way black people do.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

@ Will from Britain...it is ok to change sides on your argument based on "self imposed Guilty conscience", but if you want to do so, it must be constructive and tasteful. I had to delete your previous comment because it was cheap and could raise dust with the black community.

FYI; those links you sent weren't cool.


Richo_Aus 4 years ago

Will, I dont understand you Im sorry.

From what I have seen, police focus their attentions on areas that have higher crime rates.

I just wish that people could forget yesterday and focus on today.

The world is what we make it and hating anyone cant make you personally happy.

God bless us all and help us to come together as one race, the human race.


Will from Britain 4 years ago

Sorry lawretta, what links are you talking about?

Every comment I have made is still up and I havn't attached any links, nor changed my argument in any way.

Sorry I'm confused.. There's no self imposed guilty conscience, I just dont believe black people can be equal with white people until black people hold powerful positions in this country's government, and I dont just mean one or two seats. This is a multicultural country so why should us white people have all the say?

Seriously I have never posted any links nor changed my views in any way and all 4 posts I have made before this are still up??


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

ok, good we cleared that up because i received a horrible comment few days ago with your name on it, and links to self made and compiled videos. It was awful so i deleted it.


Will from Britain 4 years ago

Oh dear, just shows that some people would rather argue 'reverse racism' before exploring their own feelings towards 'black' people and why they have these prejudices.

I've been to many different countries, and last year whilst in Africa I felt what I thought was 'racism' towards myself being white. I was in a market and one guy got aggressive saying "you s*#t people, go back to your own country!" That really made me feel not welcome.

When I got home it made me think about black people in Britain who face this every day. Governmeents and institutions fundamentally enforce that Britain is a 'white' country, with 'British' values and a 'British' culture.

Richo_Aus have you ever seen the film 'Rabbit-Proof Fence'? It was set in western Australia in 1931, it shows how white westerners enforce values and cultures in society by presuming we as white people are the superior race.

Any links, racist comments or cheap compiled videos wont be from me. The only links I would post would be speaches from people like 'Angela Davis' or 'Stokely Carmichael', but for the white community I reccomend 'Tim Wise'.

Then come back and give me an opinion on Black People being racist.

I realise this post started two years ago, you must be bored of it by now Lawretta :) I just happend to come across it whilst doing some research for a peice I was writing, I've found some of the peoples views interesting but I havnt read it all.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

lol, u have no idea. Take your time, read through all the comments, am sure you may find some very useful for your writing.


Wyrm 4 years ago

I believe many blacks are racist. Though it depends on where they live. Ghetto rats will believe 'white man is putting us down' because the society there leaves room for such thoughts, due to not having much communication with whites. Whereas, if a black were in a predominantly white neighborhood, they are accepting of whites. Why? Because blacks in white neighborhoods tend to NOT be poor, and do NOT have a reason to hate whites.

Another thing. Will from Britain says that blacks should hate whites, right? That, in and of itself, is racism. He, along with the black panthers, black Israelites, and other such groups, are encouraging the hate of the white race.

Racism: hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

source: the dictionary.


Rich_Aus 4 years ago

Yes Will a lot of unpleasant things happenned in the past. Depending how far back you go you can read of many stories of similiar type, and not all them perpetrated by white people.

Have you read about the mongols or the Huns Will? They are of asian origin and they raped and pillaged their way across asia and Europe. Hence the country Hungary.

Have you ever wondered why the Spanish have darker complexions than say the French? Its because the Moors of African origin raped and pillaged Spain.

Both these great empires were reliant on slavery.

If you do any research you will find that this great tradition of slavery and enforcing values and cultures originated in North Africa/Middle East/Asia.

The great civilisations of early man were not "white" civilisations. They were Eurasion/ Arabic and African.

The white people were barbarians who learnt from these organised civilisations and over time came to dominate them.

If the human race has no more genetic variances between different colours of people than between an ethnic group living in a small village then we are all capable of the same thoughts, passions and crimes.

If you are truly white then you belong to a sub group of white people that we in Australia call "do gooders". They are generally over educated, wealthy people who dont live in reality and for some reason, despite their avowed best intentions, allways create more issues than they solve.

You are trying to change the definition of rascism to achieve some result you have in your mind. Wyrm has given the accepted definition of rascism and there is no mention of having power over those to whom you hold rascist beliefs against.

As to who holds power Will. Do you tell me that a poor white Australian holds power over anyone other than his children? Yet I will say I know rascist poor white Australians. Please tell me they are not rascist while having never met them, simply because they have power over no one.

Early Australia, or should we call it early colonial British Australia permitted and encouraged many massacres of Indengenous Australian's. I was born and bred in Tasmania where we actually have pieces of landscape named after the atrocities committed, ie Suicide Bluff - where the last full blood Tasmanian Aboriginees were herded to a cliff where the only escape was to jump a few hundred meters into the rough Pacific Ocean. Murder rock - where a group of Aboriginals were shot for taking a sheep. We white people remind ourselves of the recent dark past regularly in particular our own dark deeds.

Yet for some reason we dont focus on the injustices done to us prior to that? Explain this my friend?

My standpoint is this - I see with my own eyes white people behaving in rascist ways, I also see black people behaving exactly the same. So how can anyone convince me that a certain skin colour prevents those identical actions being rascist for one party and not the other.

I found this two year old site about a year ago by googling terms such as "Why do black people blame white people for their problems" and "why do black people cry rascism as soon as they dont get what they want". How did you find it?

I have answered those questions myself with some reflection, and the answer is "Because they can" and it assists them get what they want or absolves them of any blame. Just as many Australian criminals cry "My father molested me and my mum didnt love me" when they are in court and having to face what they did. Its an easy way to obtain sympathy and avoid the truth.

I am "white" (a combination of Irish,English,Spanish and Australian Aboriginal). I am accepted as white even though you can see with Aboriginal(my Great Grandmother was nearly full Aboriginal) and Spanish in me I must have a decent amount of African genes. No African or Aboriginal would view me as anything but white and never accept me one of them, yet white people dont seem to care what heritage I claim and dont interfere with me as I dont interfere with them.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

@Wyrm, you cannot define a word without referencing your source, it makes your definition lack authority. Besides it could be your personal opinion of the word "Racism".

@Rich_Aus, don't try to force your opinion on others. I understand your stand point and in many ways respect it, while Will is also entitled to his Opinion and argument.

If you call him a "do gooder" because he refuses to take your ideology on the subject what will my own race call me for putting up this article.

Its not always about winning or losing. Its about airing our views and trying to make people realize that racism (white or Black)is bad for us all!


Dan 4 years ago

In order to be honest about history, you might want to make a correction. White men didn't just show up and take blacks from Africa. White men were sold black slaves by BLACK slaveowners in Africa. That is, blacks were sold by their own people (blacks).


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Hi Dan, although blacks were sold to whites by blacks, but this act only started when the whites came to Africa promising our bad leaders all sorts in exchange for slaves. (read *THINGS FALL APART* by Chinua Achebe)

Its just like we have today, lots of white companies like Total, Shell, Chevoron etc, are presently in Nigeria and other oil producing countries, exploiting crude oil, gold, diamonds etc, giving promises and aids to our bad leaders in exchange for their exploits.

However, i don't see those white exploiters as "Whites" in the real sense, i see them as politicians. To them its politics not color(its about the money or profits).


Richo_Aus 4 years ago

What we often believe to be ?scientific fact? is no more than a strongly held, unsubstantiated belief. Hence not all that is written in a book or touted to be science can be accepted as truth.

The following definitions are taken from Webster?s Dictionary:

Opinion: 1. A belief or judgment based on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2. a personal view, attitude or appraisal.

Belief: 1. Something believed; opinion; conviction. 2. Confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof.

Fact: 1. Something that actually exists. 2. Something known to exist or to have happened. 3. A truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true.

Truth: 1. The true or actual state of a matter. 3. A verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle or the like.

Science: 1. A branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths about the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

Theory: A proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural.

So an opinion is basically a thought about the world and a belief is an opinion about the world that we have confidence in and/or hold with strong conviction. We all have opinions and beliefs. We have opinions and beliefs about politics, entertainment, sports, and the people in our families.

It is important to note that neither opinions nor beliefs necessarily have a basis in fact or truth.

Believing something to be true has no impact on its veracity.

Facts are pieces of information about something that actually happened and/or actually exists.

Things Fall Apart is a fictional novel written in 1958. No critiscism intended just stating a fact.

Here is a list of the last countries to abolish slavery, in chronological order:

1902: Ethiopian Empire abolishes slavery (though it was not legally and officially abolished by Emperor Haile Selassie in 1942)

1906: China formally abolishes slavery effective 31 January 1910, when all adult slaves were converted into hired labourers and the young were freed upon reaching age 25.[13]

1912: Siam (Thailand), formally abolishes all slavery. The act of selling a person into slavery was abolished in 1897 but slavery itself was not outlawed at that time.[50]

1921: Nepal abolishes slavery[51][52]

1923: Afghanistan abolishes slavery[53]

1922: Morocco abolishes slavery [54]

1924: Iraq abolishes slavery

1924: League of Nations Temporary Slavery Commission

1926, 25 September: Convention to Suppress the Slave Trade and Slaverybound all signatories to end slavery.

1928: Iran abolishes slavery[55]

1928: Domestic slavery practised by local African elites abolished in Sierra Leone[56] Though established as a place for freed slaves, a study found practices of domestic slavery still widespread in rural areas in the 1970s.

1935: Italian General Emilio De Bono proclaims slavery to be abolished in the Ethiopian Empire[57]

1936: Britain abolishes slavery in Northern Nigeria[58]

1945: In the subsequent defeat of Nazi Germany and Japan, workcamps for slave labor (primarily Jewish encampments in Nazi Germany and colonists in Japanese-dominated lands) were gradually closed by the liberators.

1946: Fritz Sauckel, procurer of slave labor for Nazi Germany, convicted at the Nuremberg trials and executed as war criminal.

1948: UN Article 4 of the Declaration of Human Rights bans slavery globally[59]

1952: Qatar abolishes slavery

1959: Slavery in Tibet is abolished by China after the Dalai Lama flees.

1960: Niger abolishes slavery (though it was not made illegal until 2003)[60]

1962: Saudi Arabia abolishes slavery

1962: Yemen abolishes slavery

1963: United Arab Emirates abolishes slavery

1970: Oman abolishes slavery

1981: Mauritania abolishes slavery

Please dont take offence as none is intended. No one denies Europeans traded in slaves, as you can see though slavery has continued in Arab and African countries past its end in European Countries. As it began in these countries before it did in Europe.

Without the pressure applied by USA and European countries it could well be a thriving commodity still.

Please look at the current state of resource plundering in Australia by international companies and you will see its not just Africa.

Australia just has mechanisms which allow better sharing of the income generated than maybe some African countries do.

England used Australia as a nuclear testing site while we were still developing. France uses our area of the world as a nuclear testing site. Last test was 1996.

Until countries develop the ability to have fair political systems, the ability to defend themselves and a communal sense of compassion in regards to their fellow man, they will always be open to exploitation by their leaders and other powers.

As I have stated before, and these are facts, White Europeans have only dominated the world for a short period. We learnt from those who came before us. Just as those who come after will have learnt from us.

Humans are the issue, not the colour of the human.


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lawretta 4 years ago from England Author

Thanks Richo_Aus for shedding more light on the subject, although i don't know if webster's dictionary is an authority to go by. All the same Richo_Aus, you are an intelligent force to be reckoned with. Humans "of all race" are really the issue, not the colour of the human". Thank you


Hal 4 years ago

I am glad I am a white male! It seems like the majority of the black race see themselves as a victim. When much is given with nothing in return, you become weaker! I see our leaders, black and white, making blacks victims instead of part of the human race. If I were black, I would probably expect more too and see myself as a victim. I hope one day blacks in this country will be part of the human race instead of the black race. They will have more respect and have more successes than they currently have. Percentage of blacks verses white on welfare is a lot like black verses white in our prison system. I think it's more about economics than race, or maybe it's because blacks see themselves as victims that these percentages are the way they are!? Just my opinion, again thankful I'm not a victim and live a wonderful life that I appreciate. I'm thankful for my friends of many nationalities that don't see themselves as victims and are law abiding citizens who take nothing from our government. Love one another and live in peace and you will have a grand life, no matter who you are. Get that chip off your shoulder and you will see how great life is by giving than receiving, loving instead of hating, accepting laws and staying out of jail, take care of your own life instead of every story out their making you a victim. If you think you are a victim because you are black, you have made yourself a victim because you are black. I hope you can get passed that so you can have a better life full of love and giving!


Richo_Aus 4 years ago

Talking to an elderlty mid eastern refugee today and I asked him about his life before he came to Australia, he said the following;

"I do not think or talk about the past. It was bad but thinking about it makes me weak. I am lucky, Australia has accepted me and I only think about the future now and how good it will be"

Even I would whinge about something like that from my past, you should hear me when my ex missus name pops up. Im not going to whinge about her anymore because these words of wisdom really mean so much when you think about them.


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Levertis Steele 4 years ago from Southern Clime

Lawretta:

The only time most people are bothered by racism is when they are the objects. All races are racists. Some are just more severe than others. Racism is wrong, but each race happily points guilty fingers at racists in other races.

How can it be easy to discourage a race from practicing racism? World history shows nothing that shows me that racism is an easy monster to kill. Are Blacks supposed to be the first race in history to tame it? I would not mind holding that distinction, but which race on this Earth could serve as a model example? This sounds like a case of the black pot and the black kettle. It would be smart if all races would act a little more maturely and move on in decency. "The defense rests."


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Levertis Steele 4 years ago from Southern Clime

Hal:

When writers cite statistics comparing Black and White crimes, for example, they often report using numbers or percentages, whichever one makes Blacks look worse. If Blacks committed a million crimes and Whites committed the same, the stats would highlight the report in percentages, so, the percentage of Blacks would be greater than Whites.

For years Blacks were reported as being the greater percentage of welfare recipients when the number of Whites were greater. When someone said that the number of Blacks became greater, all of a sudden, numbers are used.

You should be glad that you are a White male as anyone should be glad that God made them whatever race they are. All people are individuals. Regardless of your race, it is up to you to be what you should be regardless of your race. Being White does not rescue you. "Every tub must sit on its own bottom."


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Levertis Steele 4 years ago from Southern Clime

Will from Britain:

You said, "I just dont believe black people can be equal with white people until black people hold powerful positions in this country's government, and I dont just mean one or two seats. This is a multicultural country so why should us white people have all the say?"

If people were generally fair, it would not matter which races held political seats. We know that that is not the case. so people of races try to hold seats in order to represent fairness for their people. It is a great man who represents fairness for all people. If you think that a race is great because it holds many offices, you have a distorted view of greatness. Haven't you read enough of Shakespeare who was an authority on the fate of crooked greatness?

"Then fall, Caesar!" Great Caesar fell because of a character flaw: overly ambitious.

How recognized Macbeth was! "No man born of woman shall harm Macbeth!" But, great Macbeth fell because of greed. He was beheaded by a man born by caesarean birth.

HAMLET is another tragedy about greatness.

It does not matter how great men think they are; if they do not represent fairness for all involved, their greatness will come to nought, regardless of their race.

The greatest man who ever lived did not own a seat in anyone's government. He did not own a car, yacht, invention, fine wardrobe, riches, or any of the things the world considers to be evidence of greatness. He was penniless, yet, he earned the greatest fame than any man could ever dream of. He did not get that fame by using the methods of the world. He was great because He loved.

MLK was a great Black man. How many government seats did he hold? Love was the prime motive for his mission. He was determined not to hurt anyone who opposed him.

Mother Teresa was great because she loved! Period.

Love is the key to greatness. Few have it. Now, what does that have to do with being black or white or having political seats?


Kay 4 years ago

I am a mixed girl who grew up in the south. (My great grandfather was black.) When I was little, I went to a school that was mostly black and Hispanic. Since I look white, I was bullied all the time by the black girls who hated me. I didn't understand, I was shy and I hadn't done anything to them. I've met many nice black people since then that are my friends, but there's still one that will be rude to you because you're white every now and then. Anyone can be racist, no matter what their race is. That includes black people too. If everyone could let go of their hate and stop living in the past, the world would be a much better place.


foodforthough 4 years ago

Kay, I'm sorry this happened to you, it's not your fault and its not okay.

Here is something to think about- remember that guy Jeremiah Wright? The things he was saying were incredibly racist, so much so that he has the capacity to tell his congregation that they won't be free unless they kill white babies. Wtf?

Well, enough white people went out and voted for one of those congregates who is now the POTUS. How?

When a person looks at another person and only thinks of the group that the other person is associated with, person A will tend to have a negative attitude toward person B. So, unless you want to be a racist and a bigot, strive to see people as individuals. This way, people are able to see the good in on another, and that is so crucial. Just look at all the black people who are willing to stick up for the white people when they encounter other blacks who are racist. The same thing goes for whites, as well. Racist people suck!

People who think that one race is not capable of being racist are definitely racists themselves. They might argue that the context of their hatred is different, but they are still racist. Shame on them!


Maryland 4 years ago

I agree with your blog!


Britney 4 years ago

I'm black and received racism from some black people for "acting white"(what does that mean anyway). My parents believe in education and hard work. My parents enforced grammar and being respectful.I've also received racism from some whites too because they saw stereotypes not a person. One girl some money and blamed me for stealing it and said I had to because I was black and black people are bad. She later found out she misplaced it in her book bag! She could have at least apologized. Then I had comments of asking if I lived in the ghetto and which projects did I live in. Hello, I live in the same suburbs as you! My parents are lawyers and live in a nice house with one kid and pay their taxes and are just normal Americans like everyone else who just so happen to be black. Racism is tough but personally I find it more hurtful coming from blacks,its sad and I know racism can be in any group and I try to treat people with respect everyday and as an individual. I wish racism and stereotypes would just go away.


Proximis 4 years ago

Lawretta, Thank You for your hub. I would like to add that anyone who has read the Bible inevitably found numerous references to slaves within. The Jews themselves were slaves in Egypt (an African country) for a staggering 400 years, and then turned around and owned their own slaves after they escaped from Egypt (go figure.) Early Biblical (Old Testament) accounts are dated from 3,000 years ago. I would like to know where people are getting this idea that the white man 'invented' slavery. Was it the white man running the slave trade in Egypt in 1,200 BC? No. Let's be serious for a moment. We've all seen the Egyptian artwork depicting the building of the pyramids- no white people appear anywhere. Is this where the idea that 'the Jews were black' came from? (they've certainly changed, if that's the case.) Is it to distort the truth that slavery is actually older than white European society as we know it? (because it is, no way around it.) The popular theory now is that the pyramids were NOT built by 100,000 slaves, but that Pharoah, an African man who wanted to be worshipped as a god, was kind enough to instead employ the men in a sensitive, cooperative, well-paying effort to build his tomb-afterlife boat for him, the nice guy that he was...highly unlikely. Egyptians owned slaves, Jews owned slaves, Romans had slaves, Chinese owned slaves, and yes, hundreds of years ago blacks were brought here as slaves. But it's over now. At least here it is. Richo Aus' post is very telling: there are quite a few 'nations' that don't appear on that list (Pakistan, other Arab nations...). I'm really surprised that so much talk is made about hundreds year old slavery in America at the hands of long dead white people, most of whom us European-descent-immigrant-family-white Americans of today share no relation, and yet NOTHING is said about the CURRENT situation involving blacks and slavery IN Africa. Does slavery only matter if it was hundreds of years ago, outside of Africa, and managed by whites? Is slavery OK if it's in Africa and managed by Arabs, instead of whites? That seems illogical, doesn't it? The paltry excuse that, 'well, they must have learned it from watching whites' is ludicrous, and speaks only to the more recent familiarity of blacks with whites as slaveowners in America. It's sort of a tunnel vision, and it's difficult to see how American slavery was just an extension of what was already out there. I would think that black people would have moved on from that by now, that their logic would be "Thank God we are no longer slaves in the US and most whites are just normal people who mostly think about their own lives and not about hating blacks. Now the issue we have to care about is where slavery still exists, and where it is being revived with a horrendous new vengeance.) What's most interesting to me about this hub is that not a single person mentioned Darfur...I urge you to read up on what is and has been going on there if you haven't already, it's incredibly grisly. Khartoum is a nasty government, period. Slavery and racism is about treating people badly, harshly, unfairly, violently. Everyone, please pay attention to 'peaceful' religions that enshrine slavery as a keynote of the program. Slavery and treating people like chattel has no place in our modern world. Instead of focusing on long gone criminal acts that have long since been outlawed and no one is trying to revive, why aren't more people who claim to be concerned about this issue taking a lead role in exposing and rallying against what IS going on today?


dwight 4 years ago

i'm white..have nothing against blacks..in fact ,they're great with a dash of a salt and pepper


Anna Crumpton 4 years ago

I am no longer concerned about the colour of my skin. I wish I could say the same about that when I was a child, teenager or a young adult. My memory was really jogged in regard to the shopping story. Also shopping in Central London (Victoria to be precise) I waited by the till and the shop assistant blanked me. She continued to play about with her till. Three customers later I finally found the courage to say something. Instead of confronting her or asking for the manager I said something to the white customer so blatantly aware that I was being pushed aside by this assistant. In fact they were aware and just joined in. The response from the customer was "I don't care that you were first". This triggered some sniggering from the other customers and a smug shop assistant. I was 19 years old and I am a 50 year old woman now. I think I know what I would do now. I would ask for the manager and ensure that she would never do it again. I wonder where she is now that young woman? Probably half a dozen kids on a council estate and on benefits.


immy jones 4 years ago

Black people are not racist...

Lets go back to history

Africa is divided into two parts Northen Africa which is Egypt,Libya,Tunisia,Morroco,Northen Sudan and they are all Arabs not blacks,,,,,while Sub sahara Africa is orginal of black people all over the world...so black africans have nothing to do with jewish being slaves under pharaoh and spanish being brown,,,,real reason behind the abolish of slave trade are as follows according to history books

1..It was expensive to transport slaves over seas while they can exploit them in their own continet

2...The introduction of colonialism to Africa

3...French domination in sugar market in Europe

4..In US blacks were already over populated...and hostile...

5...scramble and partion of Africa and Berlin conference

1884-1885

Africans/africans,Americans,Europeans,Latinos,brazilians etc...have been victims of whiteman dominance in every angle...from slave trade,colonialism and neo colonialism...where by African countries have '''flag independence''''while here in states we are f@## up by the system..but its time to move on..lets change the world by changing our souls


jimmyte 4 years ago

Black people are not becoming racist. Stop watching stupid shows like Tyra, orthe ophra Winfry show and become part of the solutions. Support our community, through participation on legitimate political forums, and real issues. Focus on the positive. You mean to tell me the only topic about black people you find worthy of discussions is that we are racist...? Sister please! Be part of the solution. Don't try to bring us down. Starting this blog you you can impress your white co-workers. At the end of the day, you are pobably the one who is becoming racist, you just uses Tyra, and Ophra to say things you have always wanted to say.


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Slaveryisnotover1 4 years ago

@ immy jones

"Northen Africa which is Egypt,Libya,Tunisia,Morroco,Northen Sudan and they are all Arabs not blacks." I really think you should learn true history. All the places you mentioned were in fact inhabited by black Africans. The modern Egyptians are not the Ancient Egyptians.. The moses story in the bible is nothing but a myth. The Ancient Egyptians were masters in art. If Pharoahs army was swallowed by the sea, it would have been recorded on the walls in the tombs. I'm am totally against Lawretta, she's a Europeanized African that has been brainwashed. She believes that slavery is long gone, and should be forgotten. The Europeans just celebrated the forth of July yesterday. Should they forget about their independence from Great Britain? Why should Africans forget about their history? The history that left them without a language, culture, or religion. The Black lawyer is the white mans greatest defense. Thanks Lawretta.


xXx 4 years ago

Dont be naive. If you pay attention to statistics you will see what a bad position blacks have been in for the last few decades. Even with slow progression we have still be the object of racist attacks. I wont even go down listing all the black people that have been murdered BY police and other figures and have gotten away with it. To list one that a lot of people know about, Troy Davis. Executed, but was not proven guilty beyond doubt. Another WHITE man pleaded guilty and was set to be executed after davis. The court changed their minds about that one though and he got to serve life in jail.

If anything, blacks are doing something called "Self Preservation". Why would a sheep keep going/trusting wolves when they constantly devour them? That is stupidity at its peak.

We need to get a clue.


Eric 4 years ago

Lawretta- this is an exceptional article! I really enjoyed reading it, you are right on about everything you said. I look forward to reading more from you.


Kindoalkun 4 years ago

This is a generalization, but Black people seem to be much more obsessed with race than any other group, for whatever reason. Let's put it this way: not being able to speak English probably has a more deleterious effect than the lingering socioeconomic effects of slavery. But who whines the loudest, Hispanic immigrants or Blacks? Blacks today are paranoid about "looks" people give them, or how close they hold their purses when around them. Really?!?? Blacks are victims of a culture t hat has institutionalized paranoia. NOBODY frets more about race than them. Is that racism? Maybe, maybe not. But no group of people is more obsessed with race issues than Blacks.


Seriously? 4 years ago

There seems to be a misunderstanding about what racism is. Racism is simply believing that race is important. In any regard. I'd go as far as to suggest that people who think race is even a valid intellectual concept are racist. Racism is the hallmark of an idiot. Note that I'm not talking about bigotry, insensitivity, or opportunity. People that think something like race is important are the sorts of low-mental-capacity jackasses who arbitrarily break life into categories, because their fragile little minds can't deal with the idea that there is no "black and white" - almost everything is shades of gray. Race should be a meaningless and irrelevant concept - the only reason it matters is because people are dumb.


Seriously? 4 years ago

Also, with all due respect to the author, you need to reconsider being "black and proud." Race is not something you can be proud of. You did not choose your race. Therefore, being proud of your race is about as rational as being proud of the fact that its a Tuesday. Your pride is therefore illegitimate. Be proud of things like doing well on a test, helping someone out, or working hard and getting promoted at your job. You can be proud because YOU made it happen. You had nothing to do with your race, and therefore the suggestion that you even have the right to be proud of it is ludicrous and assinine. I don't have the right to be proud of Einstein discovering the theory of relativity. Why? BECAUSE I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Likewise, you had nothing to do with what race you are. This is merely the start - race is an incredibly dumb concept anyway.

Also, we will always have racism and the absurd problems associated with it as long as people think race is a valid concept. I've got news for you - black only means something because our society is rife with irrational stupidity. I am a "white" person of European origin. If we were to meet in real life, that should be absolutely irrelevant to any sort of thing we might be doing. What should be important is what we think of one another's ideas, actions and conduct. Appearance might be important, but if it is, it is not in the racial sense - examples of good looking and ugly, professional and sloppy come from all "racial" backgrounds.

Also, I think its hilarious that some people voted for Obama because of his race - the man is intelligent enough that I can assure you he has almost nothing in common with anyone who thinks along those lines. Trust me, despite the fact that I am white, if you voted for the President because he is black (whatever that means - one of his parents is white after all), the President has a lot more in common with me than he does you.

Race is a dumbass concept. We have real problems in this world, such as managing global resources and economics. Its time we grow up as a species and stop giving a crap about irrelevant, arbitrary bs like race. It doesn't make sense to think of things in terms of race. Period. There isn't a valid counterargument (as in one that makes any sense at all), so don't bother arguing race should be important. Focus on something that actually matters - unlike race. My sense of identity is based on things I CHOOSE to be a part of - not things I merely happen to be by random chance.

So...are black people "becoming" racist? Many black people - like all sorts of other people - have been racist for a long time. If you think race should be an important thing - i.e. if you aren't wondering why we even have "race" - then you might just be racist yourself.


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Darkmetaly 4 years ago from Iceland Höfn í Hornafirði.

I don,t think racism has just started to appear in black communities, white communities or any other. I think it has always been in these groups of people just in different levels either rising or falling. we as humans have always created conflict in our society's. this tension can be created because of the actions of different groups and the impact it may have had on other groups of people. this type of conflict can also be found in the animal kingdom also our society´s have gotten very complex there are many different types of religions, backgrounds and other thing the collide and create tension.very interesting hub p.s sorry if my grammar sucks English is not my primary language


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Nick Hanlon 4 years ago from Chiang Mai

I feel for the young who don't live up to or abide by the stereotype that is expected of them.Just because you have a certain skin colour does not mean you have to act in a specific way or be interested in certain things.We have a saying in Australia;''Don't tell me your shit doesn't stink!!!"I recall the story of Richard Pryor when he was starting out as a comedian and how proud he was to be black.Someone told him ''You''ll get over it''.We relate to his work because his humanity was at the forefront.


kk 4 years ago

Just to point it out: racism goes back way farther than that i.e. the day we stepped foot on this country. Native Americans.


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Justin Daniels 4 years ago from Pasadena

Ah, if I had time to really think about race it would drive me crazy! Anybody can be racist. Anybody can be disrespectful. I don't believe in some God in the sky that will change this so, I would say just be the change you want to be! That is it! If you observe nature you would see that nature is beautiful and very very mean! We humans are just creatures that happen to have the ability to have our own perspectives and opinions. We are going to have biases if not outwardly it will be inwardly. I always try to at least be aware of my on thoughts and make sure they are logical, instead of just pure emotion before even speaking anything about racism publicly. Where I live, I am the minority but when people bring up race issues I usually don't entertain them simply because there is nothing for me to gain out of it. I think most of the racial conflict come from culture differences, but not all. I would just like to say life is too short. I don't want to have the weight of the world on my shoulders worrying about this issue. I don't want to deny and say racism does not exist either. What I would tell people is that they just have to fight better and try harder to achieve what they want. Have some thick skin and just go for it! Nature is meannnnnn! And remember, people are people.


Chris 4 years ago

I believe in some of what you have said, but when you say Britian is racist, do you have any idea how multicultural our country is, let me guess you live in the USA, where black people were murdered and groups such as the KKK tortured and burnt crosses, where the police would arrest black people for no reason. The USA is the root cause of extremist people to take action without any thought.


brez 4 years ago

Black people don't have the social, political nor the economic power to even be considered a racist. black people response to the world is purely reactionary. the comments I have been reading is a perfect example of white supremacy at it finest and internalized racism. the denial of the white privilege, the notion that slavery was so long ago that it should be forgotten or the best one, it wasn't me it was my ancestors HaHA..well look who's benefiting from their ancestors evil . the question arises...would you tell the Israel Jew to for get their history...try working for free for a just few years for free while you and your family are raped,beaten and murdered. not allowed to read or have proper shelter ..blacks were not allowed to form a nuclear family always being sold or murdered blacks had to fight to prove that they are just as human as the next man or woman, fighting human and civil rights, dignity and respect. live this life and see if it does not have an affect on your generations to come. ALL the corporations of the world have been built on free labor of slave blood, over 400 years. try to live the life of the African black ancestors. now tell me Who's Racist!!


Evan 4 years ago

All the corporations of the world!? Some of the world's largest corporations are car and computer companies. None of those existed when slavery was around. Also, how does what the KKK did decades ago relate to black racism today? Just because some white people are racist doesn't mean black people can't be. Also, you said only whites are benefiting from "our ancestor's evil". Black people in America are 50 times richer than people in Africa. Of course slavery is wrong, but, in the long run, it helped black people. Also, how can you say black people have no power? Our president is black!!


JW 4 years ago

If we all came from Africa, than aren't we all really black?


Random 4 years ago

I don't want to hear the 400 years of slavery crap. the .Plus jews have been inslaved and otherwise persecuted for 2,000 years and they became doctors, lawyers, and other productive members of society. Without saying anyone needs to give them anything.


william... 3 years ago

hello and greetings!! very interesting reading indeed. Yes I think blacks are racist in this country. Sorry but i call it as I see it. Unfortunately, there is an environment that promotes racism in the black community, i.e. black entertainment channel, ebony magazine, n.a.a.c.p... etc... anytime you distinguish an issue based on "race" you create an environment of racism........ It all has to do with perception and the way the human mind operates...


jc 3 years ago

The difference between racist white people and racist black people is only skin deep.


BT 3 years ago

"Whether it be black, white, or Chinese."

You meant "Asian", right? Not all Asians are Chinese.


Scott 3 years ago

There are a lot of things wrong in the minds of the people i see commenting on this.Race is and always will be an issue because white,black,asian or whatever are different and unless you grew up in the same family each race and family of even the same race has different ideas in each group.

If you would simply read about slavery you would know that most slave holders were white and most slaves were black but there were black slave holders and white slaves.

my mothers anchestors owned slaves and my fathers ancestors were slaves but because of either of these situations do i deserve to be treated any different because of it,do i deserve to get a job i did not earn or lose a job i worked hard for beause of this.

All races have racist people especially black and white races. Both races are racist of bi-racial children.

If everyone would live thier lives,work for what they want,stop expecting handouts and not worry about what everyone else is doing the world would be a lot better place and we might could fix the things our ignorance has destroyed


GENE WILLIS 3 years ago

befor i read you'r story,is this a trick question for white people?or are you trying to impress you'r readers by simple questioning's?just wondering.answear to what i have read,only white people can be racists.only white people carry that badge of honor.only white people own slAVES FROM YEAR ONE.are blacks racist?only whites are convicted on obamas double standards for hate crimes.only whites are singled out by jew media for being the only racists.you probubly remove what i typed,but,yes blacks along with many othere people can be crule and inhumane.but thank god i am not a goverment protected lap dog and i can stand on my own.


Amanda 3 years ago

I am SO glad that you are one of the few people that has been able to see this through an un-biased point of view. I am hispanic and have noticed this self-segregation, especially with blacks. I work in retail and I have had a few times where black people can be very rude to me, until they find out that although I have white skin, I am still a minority. Suddenly, their attitude towards me changes and they're nice to me! Granted, I am not generalizing people in any way. This has only happened a few times, but it really pulls at my heart strings. I just feel like they are not giving me a chance. I have absolutely nothing against any skin color and it is hurtful when people think otherwise just because of my white skin. I have also seen a lot of things come into my job like magazines and books that only cater to black people and nobody else. Yet, there's no magazine specifically for white people. Why can't we all just have every race in every magazine? Racism goes both ways. People don't want to admit it, but it does. I fear that if we don't ALL change our viewpoints soon (this goes for all races), then we are headed towards a race war. And there is no reason for this. We are all human. We need to step up.


Australian 3 years ago

Gene, do some history research.


maria 3 years ago

Ok this is what I think and excuse my english first let me thank our Lord I was born in puerto rico and never had to deal with this horrible racism.I mean I can even believe in the 60's there was segregation in usa.I am fairly new to learning about the history of usa so bare with me. I never went through that kind of things but for some reason it anger me that theres still the institutional racism. I think that one is when you don't get hired in a job even though you have a college degree,or you get pay higher rates on loans like what happen with wells fargo.Or you get pulled over by police for just being non-white,Or they don't let you buy a house in certain areas.Those are the ones that bother me so the question is how can we change that? What do we do when that happens? I lived in denver co for 4 years even though I didnt experienced blatant racism.I could feel it when white people would stare at me. I didnt have the problem of being out of work,mainly because my position is not a professional one I am just a Massage Therapist. I think if white people start doing something against racism stand up against that.Black people that have been the ones that have suffered from that for years could start to heal. Anyway I do believe also that God can heal your heart from any spirit of anger too,but like marthin luther king said Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent.


TheOtherSideOfSaturn 3 years ago

I've seen nothing but educated dialect missing the whole point. For one, you will not write an article that's gonna change the relation between the oppressor and the oppressed. NO, not all whites have hatred for us BUT, there are more than you think. Look up hate groups and find out where they all are located and then do the math. Some of these white people on this article is patronizing you as well as using propaganda to keep blacks ignorant to what's really taking place. You will not solve that here by playing the middle man. You can take up for whites and they will still give you their butts to kiss. Look what JC did in this article 2years ago. I know his peers were saying "buddy you wasn't suppose to reveal that." Have you looked at television lately here in America... white washed with the acceptable black one if they are not some redbone with black straight hair and thick lips. What do you call that in the year of 2013? If the shoe fit wear it, but don't get on here speaking of white immigrants when everywhere on this earth, blacks are mistreated and misdirected. I understand this sister maybe just starting adulthood and want the world to change so she can make it in England but it's not happening anytime soon. Blacks need to get back to being black and leave other people's beliefs and systems and clothes and food, leave that stuff with them and get back to mother Earth, the Universe, and the Spiritual relation we have. But that would be racist right? because we can't live without the white man's approval so anything uplifting yourselves are racist acts. There are many white washing propaganda tactics they are using everyday. I suggest you start looking it up and stop playing yourself into thinking they care about your sympathy.


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OtherSideOfSaturn 3 years ago from Florida

You will not be able to open the relationship of blacks and whites by playing middle man in a post. Most of these people commenting are fake and building you up for failure. You have to understand that there is a unwritten rule among most white families in America about blacks and I'm sure it is universal. Your dream is valid but it is not our future. Even if all blacks decided to let go and just live, most whites will use it as total defeat and not total peace. We will continue being stepped on for real knowledge of blacks among these white families who are descendants of slave owners and neighboring families of slave owners. You have a lot to learn about this world besides insertions of want and hope. The agenda against us as a whole is very complex but just as simple. If you look up hate groups and their location, you will find that the numbers of surrounding areas are infected by these groups as well so I'm sure you can do the math. It's not right but that's what the reality of it is. You can be nice and somewhere down the line, the minute you identify with being totally black, if they allow you to get that far, they turn on you. Of course, they will deny this to keep you in the dark. Don't be a fool but you can still be polite. I guess.


Dean 3 years ago

I think black people in America are the largest group of racists around and the worst part is it is sanctioned by liberal elitists because they are guilty for slavery and other past ills committed against people no longer living. Those who committed such atrocities are also no longer living.

Need an example? Watch any black comedian and all that person will talk about is being black. I can see you're black, is this going to be your routine? Weak. Next I will hear him talk "white" and that is not considered racist? I don't talk like that but I guess I am being insensitive by pointing it out.

To me it is just as offensive as watching comedians in the 30's and 40's in black face.


Unbelievable 3 years ago

Im glad I dont live in America, you guys are all rascist. White and Black


David 3 years ago

Blacks are not becoming racist! They have been some of the most racist people around! Wake up and smell the black coffee. Media won't cover black racism. Why? maybe of fear of losing ratings.


Sanxuary 3 years ago

I have been culturally stupid at points in my life but never a racist. Yet I have been discriminated against and even turned away from black establishments. At one point I lived in a city and I am pretty certain I was the only white person living there. None the less it gave me access to a lot of different views. I do not believe that discrimination is dead by any means. People who do discriminate are now beginning to realize that it has become a legal reason to apply the seem means to discriminate against anyone. In other wards your permission slip is now being used against you. I see this occurring most in hiring practices. Its not to say it occurs but the loop holes are so large it would go unquestioned. It goes beyond race, age and most of all sex. Its simple, you place your application on line and surprise they never contact you. If you choose to not give them any information , after all the law states you do not have to, its simple and has become an incomplete application. There is no one really checking and no one to insure compliance. If you desire to check the theory, visit any store and do your own statistics. If a store has 1 male and 80 females working their you would assume that your application would be highly desired. Then again the fact that you applied every quarter for 3 years should not surprise you. The rules to be a racist can be used by anyone and against anyone. Maybe some day we might get it and finally end this insanity.


Bc 3 years ago

The lions share of racism comes from minorities, not whites. It has been that way for over forty years now, and those same racist minorities get a pass from politicians and the press. Thus, they pay no price for their racism. Certain race pimps might not like this, but it is what it is.


Solon359 3 years ago

I was not going t respond to this post because most of the people that responded to it have probably forgotten that they have posted it. First I want to say that when white people speak of everyone was a slave at one time or another, do they realize that these other forms of slavery especially for the white man happened 1000s of year ago and our were more recent. Some white people that are racist need to understand that you were never our slaves at least not in the last 150 years. You have NEVER been called a NIGGER. When a black people is being rude to you, that does not mean that the person is racist simply that he or she is just RUDE and mean and nasty. I have a question. If race is not a factor why do they ask you your race on a application especially when those viewing the applications for a job are basically WHITE men or women. Be honest people if you are given a pile of applications and you check the race of the person and find out that he or she is black you have a preconceived idea of how that person is or will be based solely on your upbringing. How many times I wonder have a black person not gotten a job, or a house, or whatever simply because he or she were/is black or any minority for that matter.

Base on this definition of the word racism:Racism is the subjugation of one racial group by another on the basis of an assumed superiority of one over another, with the dominating group having the power, or access to the power, to establish and maintain the system of domination." black people can't be racist. From a black man's point of view he of she is probably hating you because some white person that had nothing to do with slavery or who family members were slave owners did something to a member of his or her ancestors. It is true that black racism is reactionary. We black people that do hate white people do so because we first think you hate us or don't like us because we are black. But basically black people that white people precieve as being racist are just rude and mean and without morals. But that form of behavior can be equally said of white people at least though that are mean and nasty and rude. Some of you people on here black or white probably are too young to be a victim of nationalized racism but I am old enough to remember and perhaps a few of us on here to remember when we had to go to the back of the store or we could only go into the store but could not sit down at the counter to eat our meals. You modern era white people wonder why we segregate ourselves and you wonder why we have BET, EBONY, NAACP, etc. It is simply because at the time these organizations and business were created they were needed and necessary. Are you that feel that these are racist endeavors that these organizations should close down and cease business simply because you find it racist? Did your mothers and fathers and grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc that are over 50 year old thought a black people was worthy enough so that we did not need a MISS BLACK AMERICA contest? You wonder why we needed this or that organization when at the time they were started most white people in America whether they want to admit it or not did not want to have anything to do with those sub-humans. We started a MISS BLACK AMERICA PAGAN because white people at least the vast majority of them did not think a black woman is lovely enough to be crown MISS AMERICA until the 80s and I wonder what were the motive behind that first African American win. We have BET because there were not that many shows about black people on before then. I could go on and on but some of you on here know what I am talking about.

Earlier I mentioned that some of us in here are old enough to remember what I am calling nationalized racism. I remember in my home town in the first state to secede the UNION there were a white and colored fountain to drink from. Always wondered did somehow did the water taste better from the fountain marked colored. Or remember when black people had to set in the back of a bus when a white person came on and needed a seat. One of the things that burned my father up who was a WW2 veteran is that he remember being in situations where he and his black friends had to give up their seats to WHITE GERMAN/NAZIS soldiers and they were black Americans fighting against these clowns. How lame was that? Frankly white people if black people hate you it is SOME NOT ALL BUT SOME of your white ancestors faults.

Any idiot that have a basic understanding of history knows that not all white people owned slaves and that even black people owned slaves. But I have a question for you or is it more of a statement, or both. If a black person back in those days owned a black slave was he considered as much a slave owner as the white slave owner. I bet those of you that love to state that even blacks owned slaves never ask yourselves that question. I mean if a black slave owner slave ran a way and was caught by a white slave owner could the black slave owner who slave it was get it back or did the white slave owner see the black slave owner as just another SLAVE? I am willing to bet that the latter is true and some of you that read up on such things let me know which is the truer statement.

You white people bitch about black people on welfare as if no white people are on welfare. You white people bitch about handouts as if NONE of you have ever taken a handout before. Do you remember back in I think 2002 or so when BUSH was given out those checks did you turn yours back in since you are so against handouts. Or did ONLY black people and other minorities keep theirs? My comments are ONLY to those that think black people and other minorities are the worse form of human animals on the planet.

So people have made great comments on here like if your were spitted upon (and yes I know that some of you white people, and Asian people, etc have been spitted upon by black people) by white people. told in the libral media day in and day out that you are inferior, that you are shown on movies and television as being something other than you actually are, wouldn't you be pissed off too. Thank God that some of us live above that and will not hate you no matter what you do to us. I really really love you that write what you do not know. For example some of you have said in other posts that a black person is more safe in an all white neighborhood that a white person in an all black neighborhood. If that is so true then why are all the white women that live black guys running into the hood and come out safe.

Back in my party like it's 1999 days which was in the 80s this white guy dated and eventually married a black female classmate of mine. And when he came to night clubs I NEVER HEARD A BLACK PERSON CALL HIM A CRACKER, HONKY or anything like that. Now granted there was times when I did not come to the night club but back then I was there almost every Wednesday to Sunday nights, and I never heard it ONCE. He even played on an all black baseball team. They did not discriminate against him because he was white. But I remember like it was yesterday that me and my best friend took another friend of ours and his mother to see his brother in a town about 70 miles from our home and on the way back we stopped in this restaurant and we set down. When we set down we waited and waited and I looked across the way and saw a sign that said, "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." Guess that was a good way of saying without saying it, "we don't serve Ni**ers. But we got the message and left and this was the late 70s. How many of you white people would NOT hate a white person if they hung a black man in your yard. And I mean your yard. This happened in my hometown to a family of black people. I remember on either 60 Minutes or some other CBS news program where White people use to get all dressed up to go to a hanging, yet SOME of you think of yourselves as being the superior race simply because you are WHITE. You might be the most stupid and dumbest person around and yet simply because you are white you think you are all that.

When some of you quote from sources to prove your superiority


Solon359 3 years ago

I have a question. for you white people that cry about black named organizations and businesses. How many of you would actually go look for a job at BET, the NAACP, Ebony, Essence Magazine? Yet you complain about these organizations. If white America was fair before, doing and even today, there would be no need for the NAACP, BET, affirmative action. Like that white poster that said that his grandfather had to hire a black guy and that black guy stole 3000.00 worth of tools from him. Why did the government had to make him hire a black person in the first place? How many of the white business owners hire a black person if there were no affirmative action. Am I saying that you should hire any black person or every black person simply because he is black. A thousand times no. And you "other minorities that think we black people are so terrible. Affirmative action and other legislation do you good also because whether you believe it or not those that discriminate against black people do so against you to because there are those whites that think that if you are not white you are not right. Will someone please tell me why the KKK and other severe hate groups hate the JEWS. Contrary to popular white racist beliefs Jews are white too. And if you knew anything about your ancient heritage you would know that you Anglowhites and the Jews are actually cousins but since most white Protestants have embrace the lie that the Protestant world have fostered upon the Protestant world you don't know that. Jew is a slang form of Judah and Judah was one of the 12 sons of Israel or Jacob. So when you KKK and other white super haters hate Jews you are showing how stupid and ignorant you are not knowing who you are and where you came from. I a black man know this because I trust in the true God.


equality4all 3 years ago

i did not read anything on this page. Are black people becoming racist? Becoming? com on, they have been racists for many years. How the hell does miss black America...black entertainment network...black this black that not be racist? If there was a...miss white America...white entertainment network... etc. etc.... the blacks and Jessie Jackson etc. would be pounding the racist pavement. Get a clue people...black people are now more racists than whites. period!


Bc 3 years ago

Solon359 is living proof that blacks are the racists, and have been the racists for a heck of a long time. If Solon359 trusted in the "true God" as he put it, he would not use half truths, and would not have fallen for the lie that getting an education is acting white. Solon359 is definitely not acting white, as evidenced by his use of Ebonics which sounds ridiculous. The more he posts here, the more he proves my point.


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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

How can one person be living proof that Blacks are the racists? Solon359 is speaking his mind. He did not, and could not, present himself as the Black race. He mentioned examples of White racism. Is that racist or truth? All races are full of racism. Now, if you want to know who is the racist, you will have to do more than listen to the voice of one Black man.


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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

Some of you do not know well enough the American history regarding racism. Blacks chose to have "black this and black that" because they were excluded from the other organizations. If you knew the history, you would know that Blacks just gained freedom in the 1960's. Black History month was instituted as a result of Blacks being excluded from American history. When I was a girl in school, even high school, there was no black history in a history text book, nor did our curriculums include anything regarding such. The "black this and black that" came as a result of Blacks trying to integrate with others and were rejected. Blacks then sought to build their own because of discrimination.

Keep in mind that Whites once did not know the difference between Black people and animals such as mules. Some still call Black people "apes." "Mulatto" is of Spanish origin and implies that a White man committed bestiality with a Black woman and produced a mule. "Mulatto" means "mule." Is this racism or what? I truly do not choose to believe that Whites were that ignorant. I believe that they said this in order to create a crooked justification to make slavery lawful. It worked! Now, that is the shame.

We could debate this all year, but the bottom line is that Whites and Blacks are extreme racists. Maybe these two races just take turns being racist, and the winner takes the cup, do you think? Finger pointing in the game of who is the winner of the racism cup only proves ignorance of the truth. Both are sinfully and shamelessly guilty of racism. If Whites carry around 200 pounds of bm in a bag, and Blacks carry 250 pounds, they both stink the same.


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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

Clarification: I was speaking of Black American history (US).

The commentators on this page who wrote in a loving and sensible manner really make one believe that there is hope for a better tomorrow.


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Levertis Steele 3 years ago from Southern Clime

You must be from afar, Bud Hasherdashery. Who made the "One-drop" rule? Whites have traditionally expelled their own half-white/black children by assigning them to the Black race with this rule. Blacks never rejected these children. The Black race is full of people of many shades from White to Black complexions. Obama is one of millions of mixed blood. He is not unusual nor is he the first. They are in my family and most Black families I know. Every generation produces some. So, I came into the world seeing them. That is common, and they were never rejected. Obama is not as White as the ones I see almost daily. What is this to Black people? It is common in my region of the USA. They are people like everyone else. Pure Black? That depends on which part of the world you are referring to.

I do not know what to say about people from other countries who declare that they are glad to live elsewhere instead of USA. They say they do not have racism. That is not the truth. We all know the ugly things happening in other countries, but I do not see the point in debating common knowledge.

One commentator from a certain country said she was embarrassed about reports of AIDS in America. I just did not know what to say about that considering that the history states that AIDS began in her part of the world. The world is like an ocean. We are all in it.

Yes, some commentators tell fibs in order to bait. That is what cheapens these conversations and causes them to be unreliable sources of information. Some lies are so detectible.


Bc 3 years ago

And so Levertis Steele assists Solon359 in proving my point. Blacks have been given special treatment and treated like royalty for almost half a century now, by force of law. What has that gotten us? Things are worse now than ever. Aside from the constant screams of racism from black race-pimps, we see generations after generation of ignorant, illiterate people who have babies out of wedlock way beyond their population share, commit crimes way beyond their population share, and don't even seem to be able to even pull up their pants. So while their pasts are in free fall, they stand there rapping about "bitches and ho's". What an accomplishment! After all those years of coddling and taxpayers money, you'd think they'd have something to show for it, other than abject failure and saying its "whitey's" fault. Well guess what? ITS NOBODY ELSE'S FAULT. Things are the way they are because of the choices people make, and if certain people are brought up to hate whites, and that those whites are "keeping them down", they just might make the wrong choices. It's easy to listen to the race-pimps and blame somebody else, but the time comes when they should be able to look around and see the truth instead. Acting on the truth is another matter because it isn't always easy. Pulling up one's pants would be a good first step.


John4u 3 years ago

I am German descent and my wife of Ghanian descent and we have been married for close to 40 years. we had our spats, and she was rather sensitive to what people said if there was any possible way you could read something into it. Hair trigger they call it. We lived in diverse communities event to a diverse church and so on. I see the date of many posts, but looking back, when Obama started his divisive behavior, she changed. she became irrational and very prejudiced - even our kids say she is. Today I was etching Dallas and Washington play football. I commented that I love to watch RGIII play. I admire his skills ad character going back to is Baylor days. She said that I liked white quarterbacks better and ought to appreciate lacks more! That is uts considering RGIII is black as are other QB's I admire such as Geno Sith and Seattle's Wilson. she leads a group that calls all principled people racists while NEVER criticizing the Prez despite the fact his entire background as a community organizer was to pit one group of peep le against another! It has made marriage tough, and it gets worse by the day. I have seem racism in many forms and itterations, but when a black person becomes a racist, it is one of the nastiest and sort unseemly things in the world. Probably because they deny it and accuse everyone else while like the Emperor with the New Clothes they are royally naked on the subject.


Lizzy-143 2 years ago

As I'm being mixed with both black and white, i face many problems and issues in societal daily life. Im a teenager and very social. My mother is white and my father is (dark-skinned) black, and I'm very light "pale". I come from a semi-privileged household with supportive family. I always knew i was mixed and always identified as so, just not always proudly.. Im not accustom to 'food-stamps/weave/or "Black Life"' which causes a problem with most of my black friends. I don't carry or identify myself as 'Just black' or 'just white' i carry myself as 'Lainey'. In the past years many issues have come-about me being mixed and how i carry myself. Ive been called 'Prejudice' and 'called-out' for not "actin like I'm black/ or white". Hearing this while my character is developing and figuring out my personal identity, i extremely struggled. There were the friends and piers in school who stuck up for me, and some who still 'Felt some type of way'. It also didn't help that BET's network hit show "The Game" displayed a mixed couple (like my parents) and had their relationship issues, and racial identification issues. Sometimes the 'Race-issue' would come up, but wasn't resolved. It also didn't help that the dad/character ,Jason Pitts, identified himself as primarily white. Nor were they any shows that focussed on the mixed children's racial identification or how they were viewed primarily by both race communities.

I also understand both sides of history and sensitive aspects, and acknowledge both. I don't particularly feel awkward or misplaced when learning, talking, or going to a museum showing both history's. Due to me knowing it was not MYSELF who did such things, and knowing times have changed for the better(ect). In some-what comparison to (Its not right for anyone to blame or hate a German person or with decent(nowadays), of the Nazi's or causing the Holocaust. Because it was a terrible thing that they themselves couldn't help or were apart of it). When looking at history i feel what most everyone would feel for both races, and try to remain unbiased in certain situations.

But it hurts when I'm not acknowledged for being both and thought of as not being both. I try and have a positive and humorous attitude to most every daily conversation and don't raise-Kane when a comment is indirectly or un knowledgable made. When a pier would count how many black or white people there were in the class or total count,i would quickly and not too-seriously say "and a half or 16.5, lets not forget about me or the Oreo's :P". And be proud to be an mixed person and joke by saying "Oreo Nation" in certain appropriate times. I do this to further the acceptance of mixed race people and gain knowledge. But i have a problem when I'm being disrespected or 'Called-out' as a mixed person, and quick to rightfully stick up for myself. But in the 'Black-community' mainly mixed people aren't quick to be accepted,( i understand not everyone is comfortable with my 'mixed-ness' and don't rub it in their faces, also that everyone has their rights and own opinions) but i also personally believe that networks and black people in hollywood/pop culture are wonderful and needed, but i personally think they aren't hleping further the acceptance with mixed people or interracial dating. And to me is a underline form of racism and is prejudice. And doesn't do a productive thing for mixed people..! Also the stereotype of a white woman clutching per purse when a black male walks by, is extremely biased and based of FACTs and instincts, colorless appearance, the way someone carries and presents them selfies and only focused on biases and unproductive views. Does it ever mention a white woman NOT clutching or clutching her purse, or her doing this to another white female or male, hispanics, Asians or other..?? Or black man or woman vs versa !?..or visibly looking sketchy or questionable.

I try and mainly surround myself with people who like me for me,regardless of my colors. Im still PROUD to be mixed and would shout it from the rooftops ! And will better try and maintain being confident who i am and not letting ANYONE and i mean ANYONE, make me feel unworthy, unaccepted, unacknowledged, or uncomfortable being BOTH black AND white !.


AngryBlackMan9 2 years ago

Racism has nothing to do with who's in power. And there is no institutionalized racism in the USA. The president of the United States is black. The most powerful man in the western world is a black male. He's been elected twice by consensus of the people. Granted he is probably the worst President ever to sit in the white house but he is still the President. Obama attended public school in America, he was then able to attend Harvard University, and was able to attend law school. He then became a senator and then became the president of the country. There is no institutionalized racism. There are no 'barriers' keeping black people from prospering in the United States. 93% of homicides against black males are committed by other black males. The Asian community doesn't do that, the Jewish community isn't doing that, the Hispanic community doesn't do that, and the white Europeans don't do it either. Black people are keeping THEMSELVES down. Blacks use white people as a scapegoat to divert attention away from the way blacks treat each OTHER! A social cancer exists in the black community, it’s cool to be poor and stupid. Being a player is cool, treating each other like dogs is cool. WTF is wrong with the black populace? In the recruiting area of the Navy the per-verbal unicorn is getting an intelligent college degree black female to join because there are so few… Dr. King would be thoroughly embarrassed by today's black society, I'm embarrassed for us all .


Ed T 2 years ago

Becoming racist? You need to get out more!

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