Being A Conservative

What Does That Mean?

What Does That Mean?

Being a conservative on many fronts, there are flavors of conservatism, just as there are various flavors of liberalism. I, personally, have core conservative values, with a smattering of liberal beliefs. Many people don't believe that but those liberal causes are there none-the-less having grown up in the turbulent, chaotic years in our nation's history during the late 60's and early 70's. What I have found is that the passage of time, and the events that occur over time, have caused me to gravitate to the right of center. You know the little things like getting married, having children and then the responsibility of putting a roof over everyone's head and vittles on the table. I'm also certain I'm not the only American who has undertaken this particular metamorphosis. But I do know it is centered on the concept of responsibility for first, ones self, and then others.

I had the interesting experience yesterday of reading the rants of a liberal on one of my posts where many assumptions about other commenter's and myself were made without knowing anything about the other person. That seems dangerous to me but also seems centered on not agreeing with the others person's views. Some of those people I've known for a while and others I've just experienced recently so I have some insight into who they really are and what they are really about. The experience, however, did get me to thinking about writing this Hub.

Being accused of being some far right wing whack job, when you're not even close to that, is out and out stereotyping. There are extremes on both sides of the political spectrum and it seems to flow from far left wing progressive whack jobs to far right wing whack jobs but a whack job is still a wacko. Because I don't agree with the present POTUS and his policies also doesn't classify me, or anyone else, as an extreme right wing fanatic, nor a racist or a fascist or any of those other lovely names that get hurled out there like unguided missiles.

True conservatism is based upon the adherence of this nation to the principles and guidelines found in the document our Founding Fathers, who weren't exactly dummies and understood what tyrants are all about, named The United States Constitution. Then before everyone at the time bought off on that there had to be the addition of 10 amendments to reach an agreement. I, personally, am a Constitutionalist. I don't give a hoot if Bush, Obama or any other President, or Congress for that matter, takes it upon himself, or itself, to stray from the US Constitution in order to get their way, they are violating the law of this land. Until it is changed for some reason, and changing it isn't necessarily very easy, then it MUST be the guidepost for those we send to Washington to do our will. We seem to have strayed very far away from that document and it seems to be continuing since politicians of today think they know best.

Being a conservative means that we embrace a small central government where power is delegated to the lowest level, as are the decisions the people are required to make in their daily lives and communities. It's also called power down. It doesn't mean having a bloated, maniacal federal bureaucracy that wants to guide every aspect of our daily lives. In other words, conservatives don't see the need in life for having a Big Brother to watch us and over us, or a Nanny to meet our every need. Do you realize that since Obama's inauguration that the federal bureaucracy has grown by 17% and we still aren't done with that deal. That, my fellow countrymen, is called the federal government trying to grab even more POWER than it already has over our lives, not to mention enhancing the "Jobs For Friends" program. Conservatives don't embrace that, again, no matter who is doing the grabbing and befriending.

Conservatives don't believe that you have to write 2,000+ pages of gobble-de-goop into a bill in order to write what should be a simple law to act as the outline in conducting the nation's business. Have you been noticing that trend? Try reading one of those puppies and discerning the meaning of some of it. Even lawyers are admitting that they need a lawyer to understand what is in some of these bills. The principle of "KISS" has given way to the concept of making something so complex that even the people who have to vote on it seem a bit confused about the validity of what they are voting on.

Here's where it gets a bit sticky where it shouldn't. Fiscal conservatism means that you don't spend more money than you make or take in. Violation of that principle over and over again, by whomever, is what has led this nation to the brink of bankruptcy. Looking at it realistically, that eliminates a whole passel of those seat warmers in Foggy Bottom as being fiscal conservatives. Many talk the talk but how about we see them start walking the walk. If there was a balanced budget amendment passed, something many of them talk about but pussy foot around, then our nation might start to find itself on a sound financial footing. Most of us know, some from experience, that you can't continually spend more than we make. The banks put a screeching halt to it after a while. But I reckon when you're the bank and you're printing the money that it becomes an acceptable practice? Something is wrong with that picture conservatively speaking.

We're against earmarks, also affectionately known as PORK. You know the old "gotta bring home the bacon" concept so that the people know we are doing something up here in Foggy Bottom. I don't believe that porking up any, and every, bill that whistles out of the halls of Congress is constitutional in the least. All those little small chunks of our hard earned tax dollars end up being a whole hog over time and inflate an already over the top federal deficit. No one needs to build bridges to nowhere for this conservative to understand what it is all about. Behind every earmark is a lobbyist or special interest group. Those people's mentality is "what's in it for me?" What's in it for the ear marker usually equates to a hefty campaign contribution into the re-election war coffer. That's what many of those things are really all about. Let each appropriation ever made be able to stand on its own merit and not slid into another bill at the eleventh hour.

The first 10 amendments, and their sanctity, are essential to being a conservative. Without the inclusion of those amendments, the US Constitution would not have been ratified by the people. Those people understood the dangers inherent with not having them. The First Amendment is the cornerstone of the other ten. The Second Amendment insures that the First Amendment remains the right of all American citizens. Now understand something here, and please keep it in context. I carried a gun for 23 years of my adult m life and know very well how to use one. I don't own one at all now, I don't feel I need to. But I sure don't want the federal government to ever overstep its bounds and try to prohibit me from owning one if in the future I find the need to own one. Do you? Sometimes I think it is best to reflect on our history and why the founding fathers, and the people themselves, found it necessary to include your right to bear and own firearms in the US Constitution. It's called having been under a tyrant's thumb for far too long.

Conservative views embrace less taxation. That includes "representation" which we seem to be lacking along the way. Taxation without representation is tyrannical and the principal cause of the Revolutionary War. It embraces the principle of letting the people themselves keep their hard earned dollars in their own coffers and out of a central governments money grabbing paws. We work hard for our money, all of us do that bother to work anyway,and it is our "right" to be able to keep as much of it as possible to further our own enterprises in life,. I'm not rich, nor am I poor as when I was growing up, but I tire of hearing people ranting about the rich paying more taxes. Fact: The top 10% of this nation's income earners already pay the majority of the income taxes collected by the IRS. As a conservative, I realize the only thing that keeps me from being rich is ME. I just want to live comfortably and keep as much as I can out of the taxing authorities hands.

True conservatism isn't too hot either on allowing people who break the law to enter this country to get a free pass to staying here after they have broken said laws. This is a land of laws, and opportunity may I add, where law breakers shouldn't be given a wink and a nod and a free pass to citizenship while the line of people trying to enter this country legally grows longer by the day. It slays a conservative thinker when they see those placards at a rally for illegal immigrants asking, ""What about my rights?" Well, since you're here illegally - you have none except the right to remain silent. There are many rationales behind the wink and the nod thingy but conservatives don't wink and nod on this issue. Just enforce the laws on the books and provide the necessary border security to keep the riff-raff out of our nation.

One of the key values a conservative embraces is that of self-reliance. This is a great nation and was built by people's self-determination for themselves. I don't expect anyone, nor should I or anyone else, to just give me something I did not work for. It doesn't exactly look fondly on the Nanny State that has evolved since the advent of LBJ's Great Society. I won't dispute the fact that, at times, there are people that need to have a hand extended out on a temporary basis. You shouldn't dispute the fact that there are people among us who just have their hands out on a permanent basis. And we don't make them do anything about changing that situation. Now to a conservative thinker that seems a bit pathetic.

Let me close this and back track to the First Amendment and conservatism. The principle of freedom of speech needs to be our guidepost. There are, however, limits to that freedom as we all know - offensive to society is offensiveness. Using a norm though, you, I and any other citizen of this nation should be able to speak or write about what we feel without any fear of censorship either governmentally or otherwise. It has been found that when one voice is silenced, two more spring up to take its place. As a writer and blogger of some note, I don't feel anyone has the right to personally attack another poster or myself because you don't agree with my, or their views. The right of dissent doesn't mean the right to attack someone. When you do that, you seem to have lost the debate and moved far beyond the bounds of civil discourse.

We need freedom of the press, the right to assemble peacefully to let our discontent be known, and the freedom to practice whatever religious beliefs that embrace our belief system. As conservatives, we need to safeguard those liberties and "rights." Those are rights granted by the US Constitution, not privileges granted to us by a federal government. The American people need to guard against any censorship that infringes on our right to speak freely about the circumstances and events we have now found ourselves in. There is danger in letting tyranny infest our ranks. Now there's a reality conservatives can wrap their heads around.

Am I a conservative? In many respects significantly so and I'm proud to be a conservative thinker as outlined above. I had to do some serious growing up and thinking to arrive at that destination but I have arrived there. We MUST insist that the people we send to Washington DC adhere to the US Constitution as they practice their own brand of political partisanship. It is OUR right that they do so, not a privilege a governmental entity has bestowed upon us. Much blood was shed to insure that we first, obtained our rights, then more has been shed to insure they remain our rights. So be it.

Have an awesome day!

The Frog.

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Hmrjmr1 5 years ago from Georgia, USA

All I can really think to say to this FP is Dittos! Great Hub!


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

Frog, a sturdy reply, that I need to read again, after the reading about the opening referred to remarks, peace 50


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Hmrjmr1 - Thanks for the cote of confidence. There were two instances that occurred here on the Hub yesterday that got my brain waves waving. As they waved, I decided to write.

50 cal - take your time to digest it.

The Frog


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rkhyclak 5 years ago from Ohio

Very nice hub, Frog! As a 25 year old conservative who thinks this country is in a complete and utter mess and who thinks the Constitution should be upheld regardless, I understand where you're coming from. Alot of my political hubs, especially the earliest ones, gained me some negative attention from people who liked to hurl insults around. And for every argument that I debunked they got nastier and nastier. I will say, that as a conservative having conservative hub friends, I had more hubbers (Mr. Wayne Brown, for instance) come in and take some of the heat as well. We're willing to defend each other and our beliefs without getting nasty. I find that a lot of liberals are for themselves and love to sling mud, even over something as silly as the weather.

Anyway, voted up and awesome!


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Old Poolman 5 years ago from Rural Arizona

Wow, this was beautiful. I would have nothing to add to what you already presented. Thanks for doing this.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

rkhyclak - The attack dog syndrome indicates the shallowness of the mind involved in doing it. I don't like to deny any comments but to personally attack me, or another poster, because of our views will cause me to.

Thanks for your continued support.

Old Poolman - just the thoughts of a wise, old bull frog. Share it with our like minded friends iffin ya will.

The Frog


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dahoglund 5 years ago from Wisconsin Rapids

It seems to me that extremism is much more prevalent on the left than on the right. Or at least the left has mainstreamed the extreme.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

dahoglund - It seem to me that the left turns the volume on their megaphones up to an unacceptable level to try to drown out the silent majority. I'm just saying...


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breakfastpop 5 years ago

Dear Frog,

This, in my view, is a brilliant piece of writing. After reading this I find it hard to believe that anyone could find fault in your way of thinking. It's common sense all the way around. Of course, I recognize that all the liberals out there will shoot holes in the principles you have explained. What a shame. The Conservative approach to our problems is the only way out of this downward spiral. Voted up, useful and awesome.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

BPOP - How in the world can liberals shoot holes in the US Constitution? What wisdom have they gained in their short lives to overturn the very principles that were incorporated in that document to found this great nation?

The Frog Prince


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Liberals believe the US is a greedy, selfish, warlike ugly-Christian country, guilty of multiple sins, and the only way to make things right is to reduce all of us to abject poverty, submit to an international government, take down our borders, get rid of Christianity, surrender to Islam, and live in poverty and fear.

Only then will they be 'happy'.

Naturally, they won't admit that, so when a conservative makes a good point they can't dispute, they go for the personal attack. I've dealt with them for years, and that's what they do every time.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Will - I understand perfectly. The credo seems to be that if you can't attack the message, then attack the messenger.

The Frog


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

When Obama went to Tucson after the shooting and told us (he was talking to conservatives) that we must cut down the vitriol and hate speech, I just shook my head. All but a smattering of the personal attacks and hate speech comes from the left, not the right.

The Tea Party was accused by the media of hate speech, but when proof was demanded, the accusers came up empty. But when the left wing unions recently exploded in Wisconsin, we got a year's worth of hate speech in a few days written on their placards and signs, and the media said not a word.

That's how the left works. The truth is not an option.

I've encountered and engaged the left several times on HubPages, and each time, I've been attacked, been called a liar, and I have been told I am brainwashed by Glenn Beck, who I almost never watch.

The idea that I might have my own opinions developed over the years by my own thoughts and conclusions simply never occurs to them because that's not what they were taught to believe about a conservative.


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CMerritt 5 years ago from Pendleton, Indiana

Frog, your hub speaks volumes to the American Conservative. I think I concur with all that you said, and you said it very well.

I vote up, awesome and useful!


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Will - Shame of you for not having someone else have to do your thinking for you. I suffer from the same affliction.

CMerritt - There are conservatives then there are pseudo-conservatives. I am of the first I just cited.


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Cassie Ann 5 years ago

Wonderful hub,FrogPrince. I am often amazed at the name calling that starts almost right off the bat when one doesn't agree with the liberal viewpoint. These people know nothing about the author of the post but make awful assumptions and then start the blame game. There is no reasoning with some people.

Glad I am following you, FrogPrince. You have given me much food for thought.


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thebluestar 5 years ago from Northern Ireland

Well Frog, words of wisdom indeed. I almost feel that living in the UK is in many other ways than nautical, a million miles apart from America. I am neither liberal or conservative, preferring to follow the Nettie party. Health and happiness to all. Very stupidly put I know, but I have no time for politican's who try to convince the public that their promises are any better than the next man's. In fact I don't listen to the updates worldwide because they depress me. I want to return to the old England of the 1950's where everyone was happy to help each other out, gardens surrounded individual homes and didn't have security cameras at every corner, and you need never be afraid of who your children spoke to.

I know that has all gone now and times have moved on, but if living with deceit, and poverty is normal now, I am glad I look through rose tinted glasses.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Jim,

A relaay good hub. It was complete and I could feel your heart. I couldn't have said it better. Hell, I couldn't have said it as well! We line up just about perfectly it seems. I hope you join us in our effort and get in my inner circle to be a shaker. Just let me know my friend.

jim


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

Frog, it has been just a few years, since 2008, that I have been forced to think about my standing as a conservative vs liberal, and I come up with Conservative yet a tad liberal, so I spose I'm just right of center. Subject to make my own decisions. I didn't help put dingle berry in the position of POTUS, I didn't help put my fellow veteran, rightly respected POW and state senator John McCain in the GOP


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Frog, great post! I really loved it. It's funny how we both ended up with the same ideology. You seem to indicate that you were left of center, and moved right to mainstream conservatism. I was the exact opposite. I was an Ayn Rand clone until about age 40, but have been a mainstream conservative for the past 12 years. I too grew up in the 70's, but instead of being influenced "by it" I was influenced against it. That may be why I was so right wing for most of my life. Anyway, we arrived at the "right" place. :)


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50 Caliber 5 years ago from Arizona

I did vote for McCain, if all who burned a vote on candidates that given reasonable thought and realized that people like Ron Paul had no realistic chance of winning, while I respect their right to vote their mind, had voted their second pick the POTUS probably would be different and we would be in better shape over time. McCainOcare doesn't even ring well...

With a dry chuckle I'll end, peace 50


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poorconservative1 5 years ago

I was very happy when I read this Hub and its following comments. I think I know why you wrote it. If you haven't noticed I'm relatively new to Hub pages. And I knew when I started that I would eventually be attacked by the left (could it be my name LOL). But I didn't realize that the hits would just keep on coming. I think that I spend more time responding to them instead of writing Hubs like I should. Also I think that on some levels I have been too nice to them, sometimes agreeing with them just to get them to shut up and leave me alone. Sometimes I try to take their sentences and paragraphs and tear them down piece by piece. But I've actually talked to a few that aren't too bad. But like I said, I think I know why you wrote this Hub and from the bottom of my heart I'd like to thank you. I hate to think that anyone else has had to put up with some the stuff that I've had to but it's nice to know that I am not alone.

Again Thanks

Chuck


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Marcuss 5 years ago

Frog you have once again wrote yet another excellent blog. You have never written a article that was not spot on.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jim - I believe we're in the same corner and the battle is about to begin.

Stu - We all have to age and with age comes wisdom. I remember well when my generation had to take it to the streets and it sure wasn't pretty. Change was effected though but at a very steep price.

50 Cal - It does get tiresome having to vote for the lessor of two evils now, doesn't it? This last go round the majority of folks voted for pure evil. Keep the faith Brother.

poorconservative1 - Being an experienced writer and blogger, I have learned to become more measured in my responses to nonsense. At one time, I would lock and load and fire for effect - taking no prisoners. LMAO

Mark - Thanks for the compliment and continued support in the effort to right America.

The Frog Prince


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Becky Puetz 5 years ago from Oklahoma

Excellent, well written Hub. You hit the nail on the head concerning all issues and points. Your statement "Just enforce the laws on the books and provide the necessary border security" is right on. This is such a pressing issue that needs to be dealt with properly and immediately. Thank you for this awesome Hub, I look forward to reading more of your work.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Becky - I haven't cranked up yet on the illegal immigration issue but I am watching as things are beginning to try to go under the radar again concerning this issue.

Seems some folks on The Hill aren't reading the issue correctly in that the majority of people in this nation want the law upheld and upheld now.


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eovery 5 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Right on.

Keep on hubbing!


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

eovery - The Lord willing and the creek don't rise I surely will.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

Can I make a prediction? My bet is that a broad general amnesty will not occur, because there would be too much of a general voter backlash. If the Democrats stay in power, I think it will be "death by 1000 cuts." DREAM Act resubmissions, expansion of the visa lottery system, additional H1-B scrutinization laxity, pressuring immigration courts to drop cases, purposely underfunding border security, court challenges to state laws enforcing immigration statutes, etc. It will be just a little at a time, but will add up to a giant influx and amnesty.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - You can chime in any old time your heart desires. I see the "hope and change" thread still has some heat on it.

The Frog


Stu From VT 5 years ago

I just got some "hope for change." I was just informed by a PAC I belong to that Michele Bachmann is starting an exploratory committee for a POTUS run, with a decision expected within about 60 days. I can't wait to get my "Michele for President" fleece jacket (she really offers them). It will drive people who live here CRAZY. I know this because I did phone banking for state pol's using the AFP's system. The opening question was "Would you like to regain your constitutional freedoms?" Most people just hung up after my saying that one sentence. But one woman, who was very nice, said: "Uh, no, I really don't think I want that. But thank you so much for calling." If she runs, I'm also going to put a giant Bachmann sign on my front lawn (and get bullet proof glass for my main window). I know you were in the service; I may also need firearms training from you for self preservation. :(


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - If you buy a shotgun, it seems to be effective at hitting more targets at once. LMBO

Damn I hope DHS isn't snooping around here.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Well, I wouldn't mind the invasive pat down, except for that stupid same sex rule. Oh, wait a minute, that's the TSA. Never mind. :)


34th Bomb Group 5 years ago

Hey, F.P.!!!!

I think I've finally started to figure this out and will now be able to follow your comments.

Here comes the fun!

P.J.S.


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Ken R. Abell 5 years ago from ON THE ROAD

Great Hub. Voted up & useful. Thanks for dissecting & explaining conservatism. Hope it gets lots of hits.


Pegasis 5 years ago

Gee, FP, you have done it again! As one who always self identified as a conservative democrat, when I began commenting on Newsvine a few years back I was shocked at being accused of being a republican, attacked as a racisist and informed I was a non-thinking imbecile who parroted Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh. I had never heard of Glen Beck (and the only times I have ever seen him even now is on the internet) or Hannity. I quit watching Limbaugh the day he said the lavender TeleTubby was indoctrinating children into homosexuality, way back in the late seventies or early eighties.

So, I understand the "conservative" overwhelmed the "democrat." More to the point, I didn't shift my views, the democrats changed. And now, dammit to hell, I'm beginning to feel I am to the right of too many republicans. Guess "conservative" is the only applicable label left for such as me. Be that as it may, I have arrived at my political views without someone else telling me how to think or what to feel.

And I am content with that, and will fight for what I know to be our American heiritage--the constitution.


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

"I quit watching Limbaugh the day he said the lavender TeleTubby was indoctrinating children into homosexuality, way back in the late seventies or early eighties."

Limbaugh didn't even start until the late 80's and he never said that anyway. The guy you're thinking of is Jerry Falwell.


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poorconservative1 5 years ago

Limbaugh has been blamed for starting many things that he only repeats. Hey Pegasis, you should read Mark Levin's Liberty and tyranny, it's a good read. Just like this Hub.

Thanks

Chuck


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Pegasis - I'm sure you remember "Conservative Democrat" from NV. We still communicate but he quit in disgust because they became so abusive with him.

Another thought. If many liberals would take time to read, they might find that they have many of the conservative values I outlined. Of course, they would never admit it.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog,

They might admit it implicitly, but you have to read between the lines to catch it. A "conservative value" might be referred to as a "kinetic constitutional synapse."

Stu


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OpinionDuck 5 years ago

Frog Prince

It is my opinion that liberals and conservatives being the fabric of Congress have not produced any useful results for the people. Today is a grim example of that.

As for the Constitution and its Amendments, they cannot be found directly any more because of centuries of Supreme Court Interpretations.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

OpinionDuck,

You're on a roll today. Judicial activism, both on its own, and by refusing to vacate administration/Congressional constitutional violations on challenge, has resulted in the gutting of much of the Constitution. The biggest issue is the refusal of the Judiciary to constructionistly enforce the enumerated powers clause of the Tenth Amendment. This has allowed indivdual members of all three branches of the federal government to behave like mini fiat dictators for over 120 years. It is also the reason we have a federal debt crisis. Illegal federal power grabbing leads to mass overfunding, because the federal government doesn't have to balance its budget. Were most powers vested in the states, as the Constitution explicitly calls for, we never would have been brought to the brink of national financial collapse.

Stu


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Stu - Being a 10th Amendment guy, I will bang one out soon about that issue.


Stu From VT 5 years ago

Hi Frog, can't wait, Stu (I wonder if there are any other Tenther's in VT; I'd start a group, but I would probably have to buy a mirror and talk to myself to have monthly meetings).


Harvey Stelman 5 years ago

Frog, mmmmmm, great legs! I am a Centrist, but a fiscal, and military conservatve. Hmm, I'm getting more Conservative! I getting tired of these pensions, and most entitlements. H


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OpinionDuck 5 years ago

Harvey

Entitlements are really TAXes disguised as a weak promise.

The politicians that made those entitlements should be the ones hurt by them, and not the other way around.

Government workers should not have any better benefits or pensions or anything else then the average worker has in the private sector.

I am not sure what a military conservative is today.

In the current terrorism world today, the US is looking like the British against the colonists in the Revoluntionary War. We are out of step.

~:}


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tony0724 5 years ago from san diego calif

Frog Prince according to many I am a homophobic , racist , planet hating, teabagging Nazi who is a fanatical gunloving Christian. But that is only by the libs of course. And what you call conservatism , I call common sense. But lets face it that is a rapidly dissapearing commodity now. Good job here.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

tony - Commons sense does seem to be in short supply. Maybe it died as that one obituary purports.

The Frog


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JON EWALL 5 years ago from usa

The Frog Prince

YOUR HUB is good reading and informative.


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tmckim 5 years ago

Great job Frog Prince. i couldn't agree more. The same metamorphosis happened to me. Can you imagine what the NYT would be saying right now if Bush had gone to war with Libya without getting Congressional approval?


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

tcmkim - Thanks for stopping by. Once upon a time I too wore rose colored glasses. However, along the way I had to grow up and face responsibility for myseld.

They would be raking Bush over the coals.


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wba108@yahoo.com 5 years ago from upstate, NY

Amen to everything you say! This country needs to return to God and The Constitution. Having a plan to do it will need the assistance and wisdom of God. If we don't respect the rule of law, we have a country run by the rule of men. This is another name for tyranny.

The Constitution is supreme regardless of Supreme Courts precedents, interpretations or decisions. The ultimate arbitrator of The Constitution is "we the people" whose will should be expressed through our elected representatives.


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Mmargie1966 4 years ago from Gainesville, GA

up, awesome and useful! To say the least!

I have no other words...you've covered EVERYTHING! Thanks for the great read!


Roger F. Gay 4 years ago

Don't agree with you on the earmarks thing. Earmarks simply specify how money that's been allocated to spending is going to be spent. If you disagree with the original spending authorization, whether it be for buildings or bridges, or whatever, fine. But it's not the "earmark" that's the problem.

PORK is primarily drawn from huge budgets in unnecessary and over-funded federal programs, some of which were created as nothing more than cash machines for corruption. Not being specific about the use of the funds is often their friend ... as they lose track of huge amounts of money in the process.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Roger - So they take any unused money and apply it against the astronomical national debt.

The Frog


Tree of Liberty 4 years ago

Enjoyed your thoughts and how you expressed them - it is a journey, I think, if you're an honest, thoughtful person. 25 years ago I was a liberal Democrat; the token rabid environmentalist in all crowds; voted for Clinton, Gore; but had to wake up and realize that the Democrat party was heading hard left in a hurry and cornering the market on lies and corruption and cronyism, which has historically been pretty much no respecter of party. Like Reagan said, I didn't leave the Democrat party, it left me. I found that the social issues that attracted me were left in name only, a false front on what had become to me a totally unpalatable concoction of suicidal progressive, unsustainable and destructive socialist policies which had coopted the party. As I grew up a bit I had to face the hard realities of the "other end of the stick" of those socialist policies. Have always liked the Ariste Briand quote, "The man who is not a socialist at twenty has no heart, but if he is still a socialist at forty he has no head " Also appreciate the need to be semantically clear - if people understood the definition of a classical liberal they might be a little surprised. By that definition? I'm a liberal, dyed in the wool, through and through...and so are you! Today? Proud to be called a conservative, because of all the things you articulated in your piece. Thanks for the good thoughts!


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Tree - I am a boomer and went through a political metamorphosis during the course of my life. I first registered as a Democrat because that was a family thing, which many people do. The first time I voted I cast my ballot for George McGovern. As I moved along through the years I began to see the progressives taking over the party and had to go. I became a Republican but have never allowed a party ideology to dictate my thoughts. After Reagan left office and Clinton came along I saw a moral degeneration in our nation which I still observe today. I retired from the military in 1992 and gave up any party affiliation what-so-ever and became an Independent. That is where I will stay and I will call myself a conservative proudly. I learned to think for myself long ago.

Thanks for your thoughts and DUMP OBAMA!

The Frog


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JON EWALL 4 years ago from usa

The Frog

''I learned to think for myself long ago.''

Common sense and understanding what is true and what is propaganda is a wonderous thing.

5/02/12

Lies, Damned Lies and Government Jobs Data

The truth, The U.S. economy is creating jobs

http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/05/02/em...


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jon - This cooking the books has been going on for quite some time but this administration has elevated it to knew heights. If there is a "real" unemployment number it is estimated to be between 15-17 percent.

Good to see you.

The Frog


Jayfort 2 years ago

Excellent HUB, TFP! Voted UP and AWESOME!

I grew up in a Democrat family in the 60s/70s. That's John. F. Kennedy type-Democrat not the modern by any means. When I joined the USAF in 1980, I saw what Carter had done to the military and the Nation. President Ronald Reagan helped me become a Republican!

Now, decades later I'm on the cusp of being a Conservative and a Libertarian. Strong defense, strong borders, follow the Constitution, small government, reduced regulations, concise/specific legislation, reduce the budget/stop spending then taxing to spend more!, etc...

I'm not far right on some social issues. What people do in their homes is their business. If they bring it onto the streets or into my yard, then I have a problem with it. They want to get high, fine. Don't drive high (or drunk!), don't get high around kids, don't show up at my place high.

It's time for this country to return to the Constitution!

Keep up the excellent writing, TFP!


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Funny isn't it, no matter what year in the history of this country you lived in, conservative meant the same thing. Over the years conservatives never looked to change the label they had that identified them as principled and honest. But when you look at their counter culture, liberalism, how many times has that label been changed? And why? It appears that through history as the results of liberal policies cast liberalism in a disdainful light to the public liberals felt the need to change their label wanting to be called progressives and when that "ideological" label fell out of favor as it's generation passed they replaced it once again with liberalism.

Today we hear more and more "liberals" calling themselves progressive. Why? Same old reason which is the core tenant of true liberalism - deception. Liberals have to bend over backwards to disguise who they really are or no freedom loving patriots would vote for them.


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

tsadjatko - A liberal and a progressive are usually zebra's of a different stripe in my opinion. Old schools liberals many times don't want to be identified with the progressive movement. Progressives have hijacked the Democratic Party now to the extent that it isn't recognizable from the party that existed when I was younger. I may write an article in the future about that very subject. Having some liberal views doesn't make one a progressive in my eyes. Progressivism is a serious mental illness though.


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tsadjatko 2 years ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

I'll be looking forward to that article.

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