Budget? Just A Small Detail

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Hoyer: 'The Fact Is You Don't Need A Budget'

Two of the top two leaders in our Congress had the audacity to utter the words that our federal government doesn't need to pass a budget. You can see the quote above by Steny Hoyer (D-Md) and the other spilled from the lips of none other than obstructionist Harry Reid (D-NV), the Senate Majority Leader. We'll get to him in a minute. Lets take a look first at what Pelosi's right hand man had to say about not doing their lawful job.

First of all, it is the law of this land passed by Congress itself and it is a function of the legislative branch to pass a budget and control the purse strings of the nation in a fiscally responsible manner. Steny doesn't want a little thing like the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 to get in the way of making up the rules as they go along. Somewhere buried in the US Constitution are the rules of this nation and how it is to be governed. That's a lot easier to read than Obamacare or all the other thousand plus page laws they seem to pen.

The Control Act of 1974 was written to control the spending habits of the federal government. Oh duh! It requires Congress to pass an annual budget, have it scored by the Congressional Budget Office and signed by the President. Sounds easy doesn't it? They are obviously intentionally violating federal law. You see those laws are for us "little people," not those who write them. Sounds criminal to me, how about you?

Here's exactly what Hoyer said this past Tuesday and I hope the people in his district are paying attention, "The fact is, you don't need a budget. We can adopt appropriations bills. We can adopt authorization policies without a budget. We already have an agreed-upon cap on spending." Hell of a way to run a federal government and what we have been seeing is what has allowed Obama to spend about $6 trillion in just over three years. So how much truth is there in the way Hoyer sees it and the way the tax payer sees it? Run your household without a budget and see where that ends up - in bankruptcy court or the poor house. This nation is in the poor house and one step away from bankruptcy.


Really? You're Kidding! Read The Cap?

An examination of Hoyer's "spending cap" statements needs a short review. Lets separate FACT from fiction and see how their fiscal restraint is working out so far. The CBO report just out last week disputes old Steny boy. Remember the Budget Control Act they passed? They're ignoring that too. What the CBO has found is that so far this year by $156 billion and this is only mid-February. So what's the deal Steny? What happens is when they want to spend more money they just pop the cap off of the bottle and keep on borrowing and spending money we don't have to spend. Need to raise the national debt so more money can be wasted? Just give Obama the authority to raise it. He likes to spend lavishly. It's called "smoke and mirrors" economics.

It's only been 1,022 days since Congress passed a budget. That's as long as Obama has been in office and we see the results clearly. At least those of us who don't wear partisan political party blinders do. Here's Steny's explanation for that as he seems to want to blame other people for the current crisis they created: "So that this 1,000 days they (he's referring to the US Senate) haven't passed a budget, the Republicans went for equal lengths of time without passing a budget." The old blame game in action again. Who gives a rat's arse what happened before? Lets address the current Congress and President and fix the damned problem.

Exactly Why They Haven't Passed A Budget

Speaking of dereliction of duty, "How are you Harry Reid?" He's the biggest obstruction in the US Senate for obeying the law of the land. Harry doesn't think he needs too. He's above all of that you see. Here's what Harry said on Friday, "We do not need to bring a budget to the floor this year. It's done, we don't need to do it." What does federal law say and require Harry? Or again, are those laws just for us little, common people down here where your stuff rolls down hill and splatters us?

Wow! So where is Obama in all of this since he's about to release his own budget this coming Monday after his minions say they don't need one? First of all,. I'm sure his next budget proposal will be a doozy like his last one that didn't gain even one vote in the Senate.

Here's what Jay Carney, the President's press secretary, had to say about it, "Well, I don't have an opinion to express on how the Senate does its business with regards to this issue." Let me see if I understand this correctly since Carney speaks for Obama. The President of the United States doesn't have an opinion about the Democratic party members of the US Senate sitting up there ignoring federal law and doing nothing as usual? Really? He is the leader of that political party is he not?

The House passed a budget last year and sent it to the Senate. What did the Senate do? Nothing is what they did. The House is about to release its next budget. The POTUS is about to release his budget proposal. Both of those will be sent to the US Senate. What should you expect from that great body of thinkers? Expect nothing because that's what we are about to get this time around too with leaders like Reid and Hoyer beating their partisan gums.


The Official Coin Of The US Senate

What we are witnessing up there on Capitol Hill borders on the criminal if, in fact, it isn't criminal. We have elected officials who are totally ignoring what the federal laws require them to do. It's called "their job." It's time this coming November to start issuing some pink slips just like any employer would do if their employees fail to do their job. "You're Fired" can be so easy to say especially when the person you are firing is willfully picking your pocket. The law is the law. If they can't uphold the law, an oath they swore to when they assumed office, then it's time that we uphold it for them. It's called kick them out of office time.

As Always,

The Frog Prince

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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Outstanding hub as always. Sadly, those of us who will read this are already aware of many of these issues and are already outraged. The biggest problem is getting this type message out to those who do not pay attention, do not care, or both. We get little or no help from the Media. Those who don't care are so busy watching re-runs of old sitcoms on TV they never watch the news anyhow, and we all know they most likely never read anything. I love your hubs, and those of many of the other writers on hub pages. The problem is these really great and informative hubs are preaching to the choir. How on earth can we get this message out to those who know nothing about the truth, but still go vote for their favorite crook every election?


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jr3 4 years ago from Navarre Florida

It appears, democrats have bought enough votes to put their sorry asses back into office. Their constituency, equipped with taxpayer funded cell phones are networking vigorously to keep the free money flowing. These fools would not understand a budget if it hit them in the ass


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breakfastpop 4 years ago

A budget would be so constraining Frog Prince. Don't you see these fools need to pop that cap so that they can spend us into oblivion. How else can they keep giving things away to people without a work ethic or a sense of responsibility. Old Poolman is right. We need to wake up all the sleeping voters. Up, up and shared.


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Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

When you leave the fox guarding the hen-house, your chickens are soon picked clean. No doubt, this bunch considers themselves far superior to the American citizen in terms of brains and smarts when actuality they are nothing less than thieves and con-men. We need to get the "foxes" out of the hen-house and put a lock on that door for good. Good work, Frog! WB


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

I think it was the late Hank Thompson that recorded a song called "Pop A Top Again..it's time to have another round!" If Nelson/Pelosi/Obama thinking continues to prevail in this nation we're going to wind up like the drunk in that song -- done, finished, over. I don't know the answer but do know we've got to hobble this run away government and get back to basics. Good read! Best/Sis


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - I wrote an email to some folks the other day and tried to convey how to get more people to read the truth through various means. I think you got a copy of that letter. Everyone has their network of people/followers on different forums. We need to use the tools that are being provided and spread the word as far and wide as possible.

jr3 - The home mortgage give away shceme is another example. No one should ever put vote buying schemes past Obama. That's the Chicago way and has been for decades on end. There will be more free goodies that he uses as we move toward November. If someone can buy your vote, you're as corrupt as they are.

BPOP - Time to pop the top back onto the bottle and do whatever it takes to keep it there.

JS - I don't know why people can't see the obvious that you wrote there. Harry Reid and his crowd don't want any accountability prior to this next election. NONE! He has made that quite clear by his inaction. It's time to clean out the riff-raff before we sink in too much debt, if we haven't already.

Wayne - Us country folk understand that you don't let a thief guard the loot. Thanks for stopping by.

Angela - What an excellent analogy. If I could vote a comment up I'd do just that.

The Frog


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poetvix 4 years ago from Gone from Texas but still in the south. Surrounded by God's country.

This is an excellent hard hit piece of tell it like it is. It's past time to kick them out of office. At no other time in our history has such flagrant disregard for the Constitution been tolerated. It should not be tolerated now. I think we need to be strongly examining why charges are not being filed, whose responsibility it is to file them and get on it post haste. The madness must end. You know, parents give children an allowance so they can learn to budget their money among other things. Are we really going to tolerate grown up leaders who won't do as well as a bunch of children?


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

poetvix - I posted the link to this Hub on FB and a young man came along and made this comment, "I used to handle my money without a budget, then I turned 18. Its a shame the dems have yet to hit fiscal puberty." What a superb observation.

The Frog


Ghost32 4 years ago

Frog: This time, I'm going to address Commenter #1, our good friend Old Poolman.

Mike: We ARE preaching to the choir, or so it seems at this point, BUT it's not as much a lost cause as one might think. Here's my take on it:

1. Our "stuff" isn't going to nail the hardcore libs at all. We know that. It's a given.

2. However, it's also not NECESSARY to do that. All we DO need to accomplish is to skim the cream off the top, said cream being the considerable number of either new voters willing to study a bit OR those who voted Obama '08 but are now seriously disillusioned.

3. While we may not see any immediate positive results in the comments, the goal is to get a mountain of "good stuff" out there on the Internet, some of it with decent Google positioning. If we do that (and we're clearly on track there), then when all those last minute Undecideds go to Googling, a percentage of them will one or more of us.

4. WE DON'T NEED THAT MANY. Obama won the nation by an average of 6% in '08. Perhaps those of us who write online will "only" influence 1% of the voters--but even that 1% could make all the difference in the world.

Truck on!


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

Fred - I guess I am just frustrated. I was finally able to pin a liberal down to explain their way of thinking, and in a private email he told me this.

"You conservatives are looking at this the wrong way. As long as the government is willing to hand out money to most anyone who wants it, you should just get in line and get some money." I asked what he thought would happen when the money well went dry? His response was "We will deal with that when it happens, but that will be way out in the future."

This type thinking must be very prevalent when we look at the numbers now on entitlements. To even mention something like no longer giving away free cell phones is viewed as picking on the poor and downtrodden, how do we get them to understand these non-essential giveaways are destroying our country?

I will never give up, but we are fighting a battle with a growing number of entitlement minded combatants.


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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

The last commenter hit the nail on the head just like your hubs always seem to do, Frog. We are dealing with entitlement-minded voters, not earnings-minded folks as before. Too many people believe it is okay, even desirable, to grab as many goodies as they can from the federal government without worrying about the future. Depressing!


Stu 4 years ago

Forget about a budget. The whole point is that DC doesn't want to commit itself to anything. They won't cut official spending, because it would reduce their power. They won't cut off balance sheet spending, because it would cost them votes. And they won't broaden the tax base, because they are afraid of public backlash. They'll just keep going on present course until we have to monetize, and then you can kiss America goodbye. We'll be living in the Wiemar Republic - skyrocketing inflation, business failure, unemployment, and interest rates.


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

The budget as passed has never mattered. The appropriation process is what always matters. That is where money is spent. The budget is just a sideshow that doesn't have any weight put behind it because congress can decide to appropriate money to whatever they deem fit regardless of what the budget says.

We existed for 198 years without passing a budget. Like it or not, the facts are that we don't need to pass a budget because it doesn't do anything: http://onforb.es/d2SYUs


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

pz - You're kidding right? Did you happen to read the Hub above or are you lip shooting again. There was a law passed in 1974 that is pretty specific about the process. Did you pick up on that fact or are you ignoring it too?

Your facts aren't relevant to this discussion. Try to run a household without a budget or a business. It's called common sense. The lack of a budget is why we are seeing this:

http://www.debt-clocks.com/

So using your argument - "they've always done it that way" - has produced what results? Look at the link.

The Frog


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

We never passed a budget like we do now until 1974. We did just fine for 198 years. How is the fact that we existed for 198 years as a nation without passing a yearly budget not relevant to the discussion about how not passing a budget the problem?

The problem is we were hit in 2007 with an economic crisis that has led to the worse economy since the Great Depression. Contrary to what some are claiming, the economy is still extremely weak, even 5 years later. Downturns always result in an increase in spending. Once we get out of the mess we're in, we will pull out of the budget deficit. It will require less spending, increased taxes, and inflation. With a deficit as big as it is today, one approach will not be enough. It will require all three (exactly as we did after WWII the last time our deficit was this high compared to GDP).


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

pz - The law is the law.


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

I agree. I do find it interesting that Congress passes laws, yet Congress gets away with not following them. Funny how that works.

When it comes down to it though, I don't put a lot of stake into budgets. If money was appropriated at the same time the budget was passed I would, but since it isn't I think everyone would be better served focusing on the appropriations process.

The problem is, appropriations mainly take place during the holiday season, when less and less people are politically active. This is not a coincidence.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

pz - You obviously aren't a business owner. As a business owner, I have to operate on one. As a home owner, I have to operate on one. As the federal government, they are required to operate on one.

The Frog


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

That is because as a business owner and/or home owner you don't have a printing press that can print your own money. The government does.

One way we have in the past (and likely will in the future) been able to lower our budget deficit is to inflate our currency. How does that happen today? By printing money. You and I cannot do that. The government can.

Again, if you insist that budgets matter so much, how did we exist as a country without passing a budget for 198 years? Yes they are required to pass a budget now, but they did not before.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Could it be that Congress didn't spend excessively like they have been doing? You really don't have an argument to stand on so you may want to quit asking a dumb question.

The Frog


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

The last time the debt to GDP ratio was this high was in the 1940s after the Great Depression and WWII. So yes, Congress did spend excessively in the past before budgets were required.

How did we lower the debt after the Great Depression and WWII? We did it by raising taxes (payroll tax collection started in 1943), shrinking spending (obviously war spending was dramatically decreased), and by inflating the currency (inflation rate was 8.74% in 1950 and 7.74% in 1951). It took a combination of all three methods to lower the debt back then. It will take a combination of all three methods this time as well.

All of that happened without passing a budget.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

The debt now surpasses the GDP. This is now and that was then. Study history and try not to relive it. We're doing a grand job of making the same mistakes and even some graver ones concerning our nation.

You like to put things in party context too much. The whole lot of these bastards need to be kicked out of office.

The Frog


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politicalzealot 4 years ago from Atlanta, GA

I am with you on kicking out a lot of them. I would love to see a constitutional amendment implementing 2-3 term limits for House Representatives and Senators!

The reason I bring up historical references is because like you said we are making the same mistakes. Likely we will also use the same solutions. The saying 'history repeats itself' definitely has some basis.


Bob Perry 4 years ago

By not allowing a budget proposal to come to the floor of the Senate, Harry Ried is in violation of Federal Law and there must be a way he can be held accountable. Minimally he should be censored with the removal as Majority Leader.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Bob - You sure won't get an argument out of me. That would be the minimum starting point.

The Frog

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