Can Christians And Muslims Peacefully Coexist In A Democratic Republic?

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A Touchy Subject

This hub is bound to step on people's toes.

I am not writing it to start a war, just to open people's eyes.

Muslim or Christian, if you take offense, I am sorry, but the truth must be told!

I, myself am Christian. I will not claim any certain denomination. When I was born I was baptized Catholic. After Mom and Dad divorced I was raised in Methodist churches. I have attended Lutheran, Assembly of God, Baptist and a few other churches.

I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; the Trinity.

Jesus Christ came down to Earth to be the Perfect Lamb and was beaten and crucified for the sins I have committed. He is my Savior, my Friend and my Lord!

That is my stand and I believe that all men have the right to have their stand. That is why we have freedom of religion here in these United States.

Now to answer my hub question!

My Opinion

NO!

We as Christians and those of the Muslim faith cannot peacefully coexist in a Democratic Republic.

Why?

I will answer that in a moment, but first I must ask you, do you know any soldiers who have been in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia or any of the other primarily Muslim countries?

Ask them if they have befriended any of the Muslim faith. Have them ask them their views on Democracy or the United States.

It will probably throw you for a loop when you hear the answers.

The goal for all Muslims and or Islam is to have Shariah Law control the world.

This is fundamental for all of Islamic heritage.

Shariah Law and Democracy do not go together. They are complete opposites; so how can there be peace if Muslims all want their law to be the controlling medium?

All Christians really want is that everyone know Jesus as a personal Savior, but are not willing to go to war to do that. If you want to hear about Jesus, great; if not we move to the next lost soul.

No, I don't believe we can peacefully coexist under a Democratic government, but just my opinion along with many others. One of the others who believe this also is a man who I listened to just recently. A man who was a soldier in all 3 of the places I mentioned earlier, Iraq, Bosnia and Afghanistan. He is also running for United States Senate for his first time. His link is below.

Let The Arrows Fly

I want to reiterate that I am not trying to hurt people's feelings. This is a very touchy subject.

I do want opinions, so please feel free to give yours.

I would like to hear from people of all faiths and I will post all as long as it is not of a violent or derogatory nature.

We all have a right to our opinion; that is what Democracy is all about. Under Shariah law I could not even post this without getting "stoned" and I don't mean smoking pot; actually getting rocks thrown at me.

Before I sign off on this hub here are a few links about Shariah law. Would you want it for your United States?

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cesty 6 years ago

The Lord has called us to be peacemakers (Matthew 5:9). Therefore, we should seek to make peace with others. Of course, peace can't be made known without making Jesus Christ known, which means peace should never be sought for at the cost of compromising the integrity of our faith.


gryffon 6 years ago

Most likely what it will always boil down to is just how literally and seriously do you take your faith. Just like the Constitution is a 'living document' able to change and adapt to the needs of the current society, so to is a religious faith. Most beliefs have a tome of 'how to worship' and they most likely are considered the living Word of their faith. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) Logically, the faith must change and adapt to accommodate the changing society's needs. That is not to say that one should compromise one's faith. Example: there are beliefs that prohibit the use of modern medicine. Their faith will see them through their present situation, "If the Lord so wills it to be." This seems, to me, to refute the love and logic of a benign god who only wants the best for us (which seems to be a basic tenet of all religions). Since a shot will usually clear up what ails you, I'd go with the shot and if it be God's will, you won't get any better.

Now, I am an Independent Fundamental Bible Thumping Baptist. If you think less of me because of this, so be it. But I believe it is my responsibility to my Savior to witness to those of you who do not know Him. It is not my job to make you believe in Him. That is your choice and your choice alone. So if you would like to sit down and have a conversation with me, great. If not, I can respect that as well.

And that's what it comes down to: respect for others and their beliefs. Most people seem to have a problem with what others tend to believe. I don't. I'm only going to answer for my sins and my sins alone. You get to deal with yours when the time comes.


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Froggy213 6 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Thanks both of you for your opinions


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eovery 6 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

Froggy, I have a theory that this will all lead to the last war, and the coming of Jesus Christ. It is all coming into place.

Keep on hubbing!


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BJBenson 6 years ago from USA

I lived in Turkey for several years. I was not ever scared to be there because of my faith. But in some places extremist did do things,that the government there would have to conduct raids on them. They do have christian churches there. It does come down to tolerance.


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Kaie Arwen 6 years ago

Froggy213- I don't think I can give you something a simple as a yes or no to this question. I know men who have served in all three of those countries; I've heard their stories, and I've felt what they haven't been willing to share. Some things they won't say, but it doesn't mean that their feelings don't show.

On the other hand, I work with more than a few children of the Muslim faith. I know their parents; I've had dinner at a few of their homes. Some of the children follow their religion closely; they accept what is expected them, and some of them don't. Some anger their families because they won't conform, because they question certain beliefs; some conform out of respect to their parents, but they don't believe in the why or the necessity.

Most of the kids are sent back to their homelands, even if they are by birthright, American. They get sent back while in high school to be married; they get sent back because their parents believe them to be too Americanized! And then you never hear from them again except for a few initial emails............. the emails stop coming more quickly than you can imagine.

Do I think that the American soldiers serving in these countries will ever forget or accept what they've witnessed? No, I don't. Do I think that we can ever co-exist as long as the radical beliefs threaten our country, our citizens, or our neighbors? No, I don't. But I also can't look past the many Muslims I know who are in reality good people, those who join our feelings of horror at the actions of others. I simply can't say.................

I don't think you've offended here............. Christians can speak, but they'll never be heard by those who don't want to listen........... that will never change. Can we peacefully co-exist? I wish I knew the answer to that, and I wish we didn't have the body count that definitely sways the answer I'm not going to give toward the "no" end of the equation. That would make life a statistic.............. and life is for living.


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Froggy213 6 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Thank you Kaie. Your answer brought tears to my eyes. I wish that all of us could live peacefully, but?????

Thank you for your honest answer. May God bless you!


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breakfastpop 6 years ago

Fascinating and important piece of writing. Peaceful coexistence is what we should aspire to, but I don't think it will ever become a reality.


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LisaG 6 years ago from Caribbean

No, Muslims and Christians will not ever live peaceably in this lifetime. Right now Muslims are persecuting Christians in India and Africa. It will only escalate over time and as 'eovery' mentioned, will lead to the return of Jesus Christ.


MikeM 6 years ago

For any society to live in peace requires everyone have a "unity" of core beliefs. If any of the members have a passion for their "faith" then living peacefully would be impossible. Rather than strive for peaceful coexistence a Christian should strive to live as Christ, walk in HIS ways and allow the Holy Spirit to break the walls and convert the heart.


mary786 5 years ago

If people would literally actually bother to read the Quran (translated of course), you would realise how many misconceptions about Islam you have.

Firstly, Muslims have been told by God in the Quran that Christian's and Jew's have to be treated just like you would treat another Muslims: as fellow brothers and sisters. This is because WE BELIEVE IN THE SAME GOD!!!

Muslims believe in Mary, Jesus, Adam, Moses, John the Baptist and many more, but tehir names are in arabic in the Quran (e.g. Maryam). God has said that he created the three communities for a purpose (Muslims, Christians and Jews) and that we should preserve the three of these. Up until around the first 100 years after the Prophet Muhammed left this world, converting from Christianity or Judaism to Muslims was looked down upon, because God said to try and PRESERVE the three communities, to co-exist together, united, and protected from the poeple who do not believe in God.

If you look at Saudi Arabia - Muslim's have ruled for over 1400 years, with a few years of other rulers. Up until this day, there are still Christians living there peacefully and unharmed. Islam was not spread by the sword, and those people will tell you that. As for India, for some time, Muslim's ruled there, and if they so wanted they could have forced every non-muslim to convert, but instead they gained independance from them (Pakistan and other countries) so that they could be left alone and not prosecuted for differing religious views.

as for your mention of soldiers not being befriended whilst in an Islamic country, i think you are being entirely un reasonable. HOW ON EARTH can you expect someone to befriend another soldier who is there, at war with them, invading their country for oil and other material things? how is that humanly logistical? If i slapped you, and proceeded to insult your family, then stole something from you, how can my family then be shocked or outraged that you did not make me a cup of tea and give me a piece of cake whilst i was at your house?

Besides, if you look at some of the absolutely disgraceful things that British and American soldiers have done to Muslims, you would be shocked! however, the media seems to downplay these ususally. For instance, google search "The Abu Graib Prison Scandal" ... is there any wonder that these soldiers come back traumatised? it is not very beneficial to the health to discover that you are capable of killing and torturing innocent people.

Whilst I accept that Islam prohibits any form of racism, there will always be a few in the MINORITY who will disregard any teachings about such tolerance towards other people. These radicalists are misinformed, ignorant and will be punished by God, as will the people who are racist towards innocent, peace loving Muslims. It is a two way thing, which is very unfortunate, but, as you said, it will all end when Jesus (or Isa as we Muslim's call him) returns to the Earth.

P.S. rent/buy a copy of the Quran for yourselves, as long as you don't like disrespect it, most Muslim's will be extremely happy that you are botherng to educate yourselves on the commonly misinformed ideas.

Feel free to ask me any questions or whatever :) just a 17 year old white, British Muslim, happy to eliminate any bad feelings

:)


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slient 5 years ago from Sarajevo,Bosnia and Herzegovina

i complatelly agree with mary786

i am from Turkey living in Bosnia recently

what i want to say is Muslims and Christians can peacefully coexist in a Democratic Republic if the rules mostly arent for Christians

Think about Europe they say that the are the most Democratic countries mostly western ones however you can see that many Muslim people cant live like other Chistian people this is because Christians dont want to live with Muslims (i mean most of them )actually it is something good to live together because poeple can learn manything about religious from eachother it is not the same reading or listening someone something if you live together you can understand rights better

our answer is NO but if you look Ottoman Empire you can see that we can live together because Ottoman Empire's rules didnt support just Muslim it was the same sor all people who live in Ottoman Empire region

we believe all Prophes whose name pass in Quran Christians and Jewishes dont believe some of them and we know that before Islam these religious was valid and before islam people who believed their Prophets and God they are Muslim for us

and about USA soldiers can you tell me what they are doing there exactly i mean why are they there? to make there better place????? for peace????? if you really believe that please be little bit realist America never does something if America doesnt have any capitalizes

isnt it right? so how Muslim people are suppose to befiended with them? and if you search something about Afganistan Pakistan or some countries where American soldiers you can have some idea why they cant be friends


justalittlebean 5 years ago

froggy, my Muslim friend is British. He was born and raised in England. I have questioned him for hours and I feel sorry for those who think Christians and Muslims can't get along. My husband while in the Navy was in Muslim countries and he found them to be very friendly. We have a friend now who's in Afghanistan now and was in Iraq last year. This friend is a civilian and he trains police. He's had nothing bad to say about any of his Muslim students.


KFM 5 years ago

I'm sorry, but anyone who thinks we cannot peacefully coexist is fueling an unnecessary fire. If you look at several cities in Egypt, Muslims and Christians live peacefully together in the same neighborhoods, help each other out, and treat one another like human beings. I sure hope that you change your mind about this issue, there is no war between these religions. What's happening in the Middle East has more to do with politics than religion.


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Froggy213 5 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

I pray it becomes so, but when I meet people who have been to Muslim countries and tell me some of the horror stories such as if you mention Jesus your taking a big chance of getting killed--how can you honestly say they can live peacefully. Yea in developed areas such as Cairo and Dubai, but what about the "out of the way" areas?

I respectfully disagree.


Louisa Claudette C. Cos 5 years ago

my answer is yes , because even though I'm a christian I have many muslim friends and we treat each other right.We shouldn't care about who or what there religion is , we should try to coexist with each other and live peacefully


Louisa Claudette C. Cos 5 years ago

my answer is yes , because even though I'm a christian I have many muslim friends and we treat each other right.We shouldn't care about who or what there religion is , we should try to coexist with each other and live peacefully


PeaceAndTruth 4 years ago

My answer is yes, if the politicians allow them to do so. I grew up in England and loved the nativity plays at school, loved Christmas, was fascinated by the stories and parables of the bible, in fact I took one home to read! (I am a British Pakistani Muslim).

My parents taught us that Jesus was considered by Muhammad (the prophet of the muslims) as MORE important and senior than himself!

This implies a respect and a love for him. And indeed I was taught that Jews and Christians are "El E Kitaab" which means "people of the book" the books being the combined, Torah (Old testament), The Bible (new Testament), and the Quran (the latest message from God combining both the above).

I grew up with a feelign of coziness and happiness about this!! (until the age of 19 when the bombs in Iraq began to fall!)

People, we are all human, and share a common humanity. Believe me befriend a Muslim family (not one of the newly brainwashed ones!) and see how much comminality we all share. The 10 commandments are a simple set of rules for us all to follow and live peacefully together.

And let our religion be something to unite not divide us.

My belief is that if humanity comes first in your day to day thoughts, actions and words, then you will automatically be a good human being, and all of us will be "Gods Chosen People" ! as we do his good work through us. Be like Good Angels and give light to all you meet.

Love and Peace to all of humanity

(incorporating all religions!!!)


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Froggy213 4 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Thank you very much for such a beautiful answer. May God bless you!


hanna 3 years ago

I would be delighted to live peacefully with all..muslims. Sadly the truth is Muslims really can not live peacefully nor can they accept non-beleivers. Many have pointed out that there is very little condemnation from the Muslim community whenever the world witnesses a 'Islamic terrorist' event. Muslims will never dare challenge the word of Allah' which teaches to fight those who are unbelievers, kill them,harass them and impose a tax on them so as to degrade them. The truth is..if you are a 'infidel' then you are a great offense to the muslim community worthy of death and punishment.


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Bishop J L Hayes 2 years ago from Texas City, Texas

I voted NO,because Islam is a political world force that can not peaceably exist with democracy, let alone a Christian democracy.

Peace to your house.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Thank you Bishop. I agree. May Our Lord and Savior keep guiding you in the message that needs to be.


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

Yes we can. As humans we should try and work out on some common grounds. Suppose its impossible for both christians and muslims to live together, then one should answer the following questions:

1) society does depend on these two communities, isnt it?

2) for what reasons people dwell in a society?

3) is it not true that every person who lives in the society shares both benefits and loses with others?

4) if the followers of religion do not unite then how come that religion help them stay united with their own followers?


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

I understand what you are saving, but as long as there are radicals such as ISIS doing what they do, it will never work. The fact is. Jesus came to be the Savior. Islam does not accept that and sticks with the teachings of a man that is dead. Christians follow the teachings of a man that was killed, but rose again. In the end, all will claim Jesus Christ is God in Son form. This is where the problem lies; the Muslim religion wants only what they want, and there is no leeway. Christians are taught to love mankind no matter their beliefs. Islam teaches to hate mankind unless they believe in the Islam way.

I will agree to disagree. What you state sounds great on paper (ie internet) but is not reality.


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

For arriving at some common grounds we need to work on what is common between us. arguments and counter arguments will never allow us to sit together and chalk out a common program.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Sir, by no means am I wanting to argue, but at this very moment, in the name of Allah, the group ISIS is beheading and killing thousands of Christians in Iraq. While all of us sit comfortably, there are innocents being killed because of their beliefs. What do you propose should be done about this?

I am in agreement with you that God wants us all to live at peace, but how do we when this is happening?


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

See if anyone is killing innocents in the name of religion is totally against the spirit of Islam. It clearly says that killing of one innocent is equal to killing of the entire humanity. So if anything is happening of this sort, as you said, it should be condemn in strongest possible terms.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

It is happening. Daily it is happening: http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-beaten...

This is where we have issues. This needs to be stopped. There are many who are claiming Islam beliefs who are supporting this. How can we possibly have talks of peace when such things are happening?


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

I understand your pain sir and I am equally find myself with you sharing your burden of sorrow and grief. If media reports are to believe that act is highly condemnable. You know Islam has honored the humanity by saying that the humans have been created on the face of Allah. That Allah has made man superior over all other creatures. It has been prohibited from slapping a man on his face not to talk of inhuman killings. I don't find any reasons why and on what basis such a barbaric and cruel act can take place? How such people justify their acts in the name of Allah? Certainly they are not amongst us. May Allah shower His abundant mercy on all of us and provide a peaceful atmosphere so than we can engage ourselves in the acts that please Him.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

I appreciate your sorrow. I must ask you a question now; are women inferior to men by your scripture?


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

I remain with you sir, about the question you raised, will write in detail and let you know.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

Thank you my friend. I do respect you, as you are willing to have a man-to-man conversation without belligerence. I do await your response, as this is one area that I have seen is a divide between Christianity and Islam.


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

Hello Froggy213, wrote a detailed article on the question you posed Are Women Inferior to Men? Please go through.


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Froggy213 2 years ago from On A Mountain In Puerto Rico Author

You wrote a very good hub and very detailed. I must say that I am honored to call you my friend. I will also now say that if all Muslims believed as you do, I would have to "eat my words" in this hub.

I will share the hub you wrote here as it is very well done: http://hubpages.com/relationships/Are-Women-Inferi...

Where our problems now lie, both in Islam and in Christianity is radicalism. Yes, I am taught to attempt to bring you to follow Jesus, as you are also taught to attempt to follow Muhammad. If we reject the invitation, it doesn't mean we are enemies. On both sides, there are those who assume that rejection means we are enemies.

Maybe, just maybe my friend, we can all see this in another way; we can still be friends even though....

Thank you sir and as I must say God Bless You!


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

Thanks a lot Froggy213 I am also honored that you are my friend, we should judge the person by his pure heart not by his faith, because it’s a fact that even among the followers of same faith do feuds occur and misunderstanding prevail. It means it is the heart to heart contact that binds us. I don't mind if you are a follower of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), what matters a lot to me that I should not be harsh on you as the Quran says: “To you be your way, and to me mine”. (Chapter 109: Verse 6). And also advise us “Revile not you those whom they call upon besides Allah….”(Chapter 6: Verse 108). In fact my faith (Imaan) completes only when I love for you what I love for myself as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) says.

Yes you are right rejection of invitation should not make us enemies. I think radicalism persists because of the inaccurate understanding of the religion, and the silence of majority has caused the situation to crash to the worst. If we come forward to build an ideal society, we can, I don't know what preventing us from coming together and sharing what commonness we have in our religions. Let us hope for a new beginning Sir. With lots of good wishes and prayers for you, May Allah showers His abundant mercy on you and your family.


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m abdullah javed 2 years ago

thanks a lot sir, will get back to you soon. regards

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