God and Mother Nature (one and the same?). Why the GLBT community must deal with social injustices.

What Agenda?

Preamble to my article below.

God created all there is - and God don't make no junk! (bad grammar intentional)
So, who is really responsible for inequality, injustice, intolerance and hatred? "God's" church? I think not.


Note: This is in response to the comments i received in regards to this article. They are shown in their entirety below.

Apparently I will need to start adding a preamble to my hubs in order to put them in proper perspective so one can easily differentiate between the wording (content) and the meaning (intent) of the message.

It appears that it is difficult to use conceptual truths to point out the irrational beliefs people have about what they have read, learned and ultimately believe to be fact, and whether or not that belief is based on logic, reality or myth.

In this hub my intent is to put in some semblance of order and to show how irrational, current ideas are, on such matters as the fallacy that there is actually a "homosexual agenda" in this country, and obviously on a global scale.

This "agenda" is continuously being judged by people in the news (political, religious, personal ideas, the law, blogs, the news pundits- , etc..etc..) There is no end to the opinionists on this subject and all these people have NO concept of why this is simply a "natural phenomenon".

This intent of this hub was, or is, hopefully going to show why i call this a "natural phenomenon".

1. God created all that is.

2. Mother Nature is God's plan to create life in the physical world. (you do know that there was never a real person called: mother nature?)

3. The fact that there is interaction between all things and adjustments must occasionally be made to keep that symbiotic relationship, harmony, and balance to insure continuation of the "Cosmic Plan", cannot be irrationally discarded.

The nonsensical beliefs that some how God/Mother Nature has made an error that man must correct is simply madness (sheer arrogance and total ignorance) in itself.

4. Homosexuality is indeed part of that plan for the survival of the human species. It is a simple genetic adjustment to prevent the dire consequences of over population.

Like it or not. This is all part of that Cosmic Plan for survival.

No amount of rhetoric, spewing hatred, making laws, or babbling of religious idiocy, will ever change this monumental fact.

by: d.william 11/19/10

This is the original Hub article --


Can we separate God and Mother Nature?? Absolutely and unequivocally not.

Everything in the universe co-exists in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?

Everything on this planet evolved to co-exist in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?

All life on this planet evolved to co-exist in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?

When one species of plant or animal (including human) proliferates out of control there are consequences that are devastating to all other species. Is this not scientific fact?

When mankind interferes with nature, a species can become extinct. Is this not scientific fact?

Now, lets place these "physical truths", as stated above, in context with the metaphysical.

Metaphysical by definition: The principles of, or relating to, the transcendent (being beyond the limits of all possible experience and knowledge) or to a reality beyond what is perceptible to the senses: ie - supernatural, or highly abstract, or abstruse [difficult to understand].

Examples: We cannot see air, gravity, magnetic forces or electricity, but we know they exist.

Over the centuries man has attempted to interpret the intentions of the Creator by using the extremely limited intellectual capacity of the human brain. - and there in lies the problem.

Humanity has embraced the concept of a supernatural "Creator" and feebly attempts to assume that there are 'limitations' of this 'creator's capabilities to foresee problems without contingencies for the correction of those problems.

Thereby implying diminished intelligence of the Creator and attempting to 'compensate' for the Creator's short comings. What arrogance!

This dishonorable and unfettered arrogance of man will be our ultimate undoing.

Apparently those humans who believe they can surpass the creator's plans are placing themselves on an equal plane with the Creator. This mentality is equivalent to a gnat attempting to control the universe; or a flea trying to impregnate an elephant.

Humanity has embraced, as truth, fairy tale ideas that have absolutely no basis in fact.

And yet man attempts to circumvent what is obviously the only viable solution for population control other than mass exterminations, genocide and wars. It is very difficult for me to ever believe that a creator would factor these controls into any equation.

This is not even close to being logical or rational. - this is human solution, definitely not divine intervention.

Nature, as we have seen many times in the past, takes care of itself and needs no interference by man, who would do so only for personal gain - wealth or power.

Now, lets put these revelations in perspective with the fairy tales that people have embraced as "proof" of god's existence:

  • Jesus walked on water.
  • Moses parted the seas.
  • Noah built an ark and collected two of every species on this planet,
  • The world was destroyed by a great flood (at the time of Noah, the only known (perceived) concepts of the earth were that it was flat, so what they considered the world was only the immediate area that they lived in.
  • God wrote on stone tablets, the 10 commandments,
  • etc, etc, etc.....

But God apparently cannot, or does not, possess the same capabilities as human kind, to alter growth and development of humanity by manipulation of genetic changes to stop massive, out of control, destructive population growth? Where is the logic in this madness?

I tell you what - I would sooner believe that the "homosexual agenda" is God's plan to keep nature in balance, than believe as religions teach, that this population explosion is better controlled by man's laws, murder, wars and other mayhem; than sanctioned control by an all powerful and benevolent creator with a 'contingency plan' of his own after all.

I put little, if any, confidence in the arrogance and ignorance of mankind. Or the vastly questionable intelligence of the religious factor, who taught such inane things as the world was flat, the sun and stars revolved around the earth, and killed or jailed anyone who spoke otherwise.. Or created their own Holy scriptures out of bits and pieces of writings of their choosing, and then had the audacity to proclaim it as 'Holy", and declared it a sin for any one to dare to question those laws.

It is totally outrageous that people still believe its veracity at a verbatim level.

And neither should you.

Don't you think that mankind has already done enough damage to nature and contributed more than enough toward the destruction of the natural order of things?

It seems it is O.K. for mankind to genetically alter our food supply for profit, but not O.K. for mother nature to genetically alter mankind for survival.

Aaaah the arrogance (and ignorance) of man!!

by: d.william 11/16/10

If THIS is what is representing us in our Government. We are truly doomed.

There is hope after all.

You cannot watch this video and not see the stupidity of humanity

© 2010 d.william

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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

what planet and what universe do you see perfect harmony?

chaos is the state of this planet and the universe.

You sound like you are in denial.


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d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

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Thanks for your comments. You are an odd duck. You seem to be confusing the word chaos with violence. There is no doubt that there are many violent and desctructive forces in the universe, but hardly chaos. Chaos means "the confused unorganized state of primordial matter before the creation of distinct forms". You can hardly refer to the universe as chaotic. It is a beautiful and totally harmonized place. You are, however, correct that this planet is total chaos with little hope of finding any peace or harmony in the near future with humanity being in a total state of confusion and disorder.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

Even if I were to accept violent as opposed to chaos, the word beautiful would not be appropriate. Exciting would be a better word. As when you are going down a road and you hit an ice patch and try to stop.

Chaos

Chaos theory

Chaotic systems display sensitivity to initial conditions. Tiny initial differences can result, over time, in completely different results.Mathematically, chaos refers to a very specific kind of unpredictability: deterministic behaviour that is very sensitive to its initial conditions.[16] In other words, infinitesimal variations in initial conditions for a chaotic dynamic system lead to large variations in behaviour.

Chaotic systems consequently appear disordered and random. However, they are actually deterministic systems governed by physical or mathematical laws, and so are completely predictable given perfect knowledge of the initial conditions. In other words, a chaotic system will always exhibit the same behaviour when seeded with the same initial conditions - there is no inherent randomness in this regard.[17] However, such perfect knowledge is never attainable in real life; slight errors are intrinsic to any physical measurement. In a chaotic system, these slight errors will give rise to results which differ wildly from the correct result. A commonly used example is weather forecasting, which is only possible up to about a week ahead,[18] despite theoretically being perfectly possible at any level (ignoring the effects of the uncertainty principle).

The problem here is that we have only the Big Bang Theory to guess our initial condition. And that guess seems way out of being true.

The universe as we understand it is not predictable, we just come up with new theories.

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beau·ti·ful (byt-fl)

adj.

1. Having qualities that delight the senses, especially the sense of sight.

2. Excellent; wonderful.

To apply this adjective to the Earth, and the Universe it depends on where you are viewing them. So it is exteremely subjective to the individual.

The person on the beach in Bermuda on a sunny clear day would most likely think that it was beautiful. That same person on the same beach but during a hurricane would have a different view and most likely a different opinion.

The so called Acts of God are not beautiful, they are extremely scary and devastating.

Your use of the world beautiful is misleading as you use it as if it meant perfect, and without flaws.

So we need to include your context when trying to understand what you meant by beautiful.

BTW, using the word odd can only be taken as a derogatory inference. It adds nothing to your point.

Thanks


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d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

http://hubpages.com/profile/OpinionDuck.

Thanks for pointing out the misuse of the words: perfect harmony. I have edited the beginning of this hub to more closely define my meaning, or intent of content.

This article was not on the universe or its origins. It is a social statement. Your point of arguement is, in essence, wasted in basic relevance to this article.

Your chaos theory, though perhaps profound in nature, is also irrelevant, as is your comments on beauty. Beauty still remains in the eyes of the beholder, and although admittedly there is much violence in the universe, there is much wonderous beauty to behold in the structure, as a whole, as well as the wonderous beauties of the individual components that make up the universe.

The use of the word (odd) in itself is also irrelevant. As i used it to be an endearing term (meaning unusual, not regular, expected or planned) you chose to take it as a personal affront. I find that odd (strange) in itself.

I rarely use terms that are insulting to others (with the exception of calling AmericanRomance an idiot, which i truly meant as a heartfelt description of his inane comments). For that i do not apologize.

I welcome constructive criticism as it helps me to more carefully select my words in my future writings.

So, please continue to critique, is matters to me.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

I wasn't trying to critique your hub, I was confused by your choice of words and I inferred it to be different than your intention or the goal of your hub.

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You say "This article was not on the universe or its origins. It is a social statement. Your point of argument is, in essence, wasted in basic relevance to this article.

CAN WE SEPARATE GOD AND MOTHER NATURE?

Everything in the universe co-exists in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?

Everything on this planet evolved to co-exist in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?

All life on this planet evolved to co-exist in symbiotic fashion. Is this not scientific fact?"

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If that is how you started this hub, then I don't understand your comment.

My point and while you consider my comments irrelevant, I am submitting it as one that is out of the scope of this hub.

The world is no where near perfect, and that especially includes the people on it. The universe serves no useful purpose and it also in no where near perfect.

It doesn't matter to me how the Earth and the Universe were created, nor who or what created it. We the people are just along for the ride, it is not as if we can change anything in the universe.

So after several of our comments, I don't really know what is the relevance of this hub.

This was not a critique of it, just an explanation why I was confused with what I was commenting on here.

Thanks


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d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

http://www.hubpages.com/profile/OpinionDuck.

Again, thank you for your comments. I have added a preamble to this hub to hopefully clear up the intent of writing it. I tend to forget that my thoughts and ideas are far from the ordinary. Since i do not indulge in spreading hatred, bigotry and intolerance as a rule, i sometimes set my expectations of my readers to grasp my concepts too high. I will continue to strive to make them more self explanatory. Thanks for giving me this insight.


kat 4 years ago

THERE IS A CREATOR OF ALL EXISTANCE AND ALL AND EVERY EXISTANCE IS PURPOSFULL. MAN IS SO FAR AWAY FROM GOD THAT ALL HE LEANS TO IS CHAIOS. IF A MAN REALLY HAD GOD HE WOULD ALSO HAVE UNDERSTANDING THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM GREAT LOFTYNESS IN HIS THINKING OF ALL EXISTENCE!


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

kat:

Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. Your forceful statements above are quite reflective of your personal passion toward your religion. They, however, do not reflect reality. There may, or may not, be a CREATOR of all existence, at least as we have been taught that it is so.

The current trend in the world has nothing to do with people "moving away from God", but rather it is the embracing of material gains that has taken over the mentality of mankind. Greed is our greatest enemy, and self serving is the driving force to that greed.

Man has not yet learned the difference between religious rhetoric and the concept of spirituality. They are not the same. We cannot live in peace and harmony without some sense of spirituality that does not totally encompass self serving. Religion is not the answer, as we see every day by the lies of religion, the promotion of hatred and bigotry, the judging of others, the lack of understanding, compassion, acceptance, etc...

I have attached a new video above so that you, and others, may find some enlightenment into another world beyond your indoctrination (brainwashing) into your respective religions.


Amanda 4 years ago

"Since i do not indulge in spreading hatred, bigotry and intolerance as a rule, i sometimes set my expectations of my readers to grasp my concepts too high. I will continue to strive to make them more self explanatory. Thanks for giving me this insight." THROUGH THIS PARAGRAPH ALONE YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF SIR. THIS WHOLE PARAGRAPH IS BELITTLING YOUR READERS, BASICALLY SAYING YOU ARE ABOVE THEM...SO HOW ARE YOU NOT BEING A BIGOT AS YOU SAY YOU DON'T INDULGE IN?????????


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Amanda:

Your conception, or interpretation, of the words are strictly your own. I do not indulge in promoting hatred, bigotry, intolerance or other negative attitudes toward other people. I do however, voice my disdain for those who do. I do not hate people for their negative beliefs, but i do feel sorry for them. Those who spend their time hating others without just cause are the greater losers, for they are poisoning their own minds, by spewing their hatred of others onto those they choose to hate without any reason or logic whatsoever.


Amanda 4 years ago

It's not a conception sir, it IS WHAT CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ONTO THIS SCREEN. YOU ARE A BIGOT. YOU CAN DENY ALL YOU WANT, AND TRY AND TWIST IT ON ME BUT ITS NOT GOING TO WORK. YOU WRITING THAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF YOUR READERS ARE TO HIGH, SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE BETTER THAN YOUR READERS. MAYBE YOUR READERS JUST DON'T AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THET DON'T "GRASP" THE CONCEPT OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, SO IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE VERY MUCH A BIGOT.


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Amanda:

It is evident that your are distraught over the article being beyond your capacity to digest the information it is meant to impart.

Your passionate "screaming" of your disdain serves no purpose to me, or anyone else, as it only makes sense to your limited mentality.

When i say that you do not have the capacity to grasp what i am saying; that is certainly not bigotry, it is fact. Stating a fact can never be considered bigotry. Perhaps you do not understand even the concept of what the word 'bigot' means. In any case i do apologize for causing you to be irrational and a bit inane.

You might want to do yourself a favor and try to read hubs that are more suitable to your own intellectual level.

I really cannot have any intelligent dialogue with irrational people, or even the desire to do so.


amanda 4 years ago

its not a fact, its a fact to you which is actually called an OPINION. keep spouting your rage and bigotry, LMAO!!!!


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

amanda:

The purpose of posting comments on these articles is to start an intelligent dialogue between people to discuss pros and cons of the contents of these articles.

I welcome all comments that are subject related, and that warrant intellectual pursuit. Your comments are neither.


amanda 4 years ago

again LMAO because most of your responses have been acting like your above everyone, and putting others down who have left comments, so keep acting like your intelligent with your spoutings!!!!!!!


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

amanda:

Again with such constructive criticism and appropriate input.

Exactly why am i so blessed with your intelligent comments? And FYI: i am not acting. Perhaps YOU should try a little acting of your own. You will not win any academy awards with your comedic performances so far.


marcis 3 years ago

are you serious we do not no what will happen so what about the bible its total BS for MAN made the flimsy book not GOD for the events happening on this chaotic stone you call a harmonized world you my friend are just another gloryifed brainwashed preecher with nothing to say but POSSIBILITES not TRUTHS o and FFUCKINYI no need to blurt out your level of intellect to anybody but yourself i don't think anyone asked or even cares for the fact that you are getting a shiny medal, degree, trophy, or whatever but realize this my friend you are man not god so don't make things up that the human race dose not even know or is sure about so kindly go blow yourself thank you. ps: you should really stop acting like a mind scowelled, religious hot-shot ok take your crappy half-truths elswere cuss last time i checked religious bastards like yourself don't show of so in the mean time go blow lucis big hairy meat wad while your at it good bye forever and don't pay attention to my spelling im lazy to correct, problem? go complain to your mother. so what i cant spell suck it up!!!! and finnaly ganess is not genetic for the love of god so tell me when your born you cant even open your eyes so how in fucks name can you be a butt fucker at age just born it is developed but can be avoided with some methods and what conserve society what so A GUY how fucks other dudes can conserve society fuck off. don't even bother

flashing your brain power at me i have no use for high vocabulary words coming from a know-it-all preecher.


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d.william 3 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

My Dear Marcis:

Such a sad response to my article.

I am so sorry you never had the opportunity to exercise your brain the way it was meant to be exercised and used.

Firstly, i am not a preacher, just a realist. Your words are those spoken from a painfully limited mind set, and obviously the result of a child who who was emotionally abused, and unable to recover from those years of abuse. My heart goes out to you, and others like you who have never learned the difference between what is simply fairytale superstition and what is logically realistic in this world.

Your references from which you base your most basic beliefs are flawed beyond comprehension. You are a perfect product of the establishment that controls the masses through fear, superstition, illogical and irrational thinking. You are the true prototype that tyranny must produce in order to control the armies of evil in which you live.

My prayers go out to you for your enlightenment lest ye be lost forever in your own ignorance and madness.

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