Concealed Handguns and CCW: What is it all about?

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Indiana is one of the almost 40 states where citizens can exercise their right to bear arms on a daily basis. I am one of the 350,000 Hoosiers who chose to do so, and I carry a small handgun almost everywhere in my front pocket.

A little while back, my work took me into Gary, which has been the murder capitol for several of the past ten years.

I parked my van in a empty parking lot, and having locked the door behind me, went to take a look around the outside of the building I was going to do work on for a cursory inspection before heading back to the van.

When I was about 100 feet from the van, I noticed two older teens dressed in the fashionable "gang" style coming down the other side of the street. They saw me at the same time. They immediately wheeled in my direction and, after diagonally crossing the street, started walking towards me. Any instructor of self-defense techniques will tell you that this maneuver is a clear and present danger signal that you've become a target.

I managed to make it back to the van, while listening to them the whole time trash-talking about how they were the baddest ones in the ‘hood and it belonged to them. They were catching up to me pretty fast.

The driver door was on the other side of the van, away from the street, and I understood that I would have to have my back turned to them as I was trying to unlock the door. Not only would any action they took be blocked from any passerby by my van, but it put me in a highly vulnerable position.

Now, it's easy to say that I should not have put myself in that position in the first place by going to Gary, but that only holds true if one is willing to redline the entire city.

I must admit, I was quite concerned for my safety. I'm middle-aged, slow, fatter than I should be, and with a bum leg. Facing down two urban teens was not what I wanted to do when I woke up that morning, ready to greet the day. However, that was exactly what I had to do, because no more than a second or two after I reached the driver's door the two came around the back side of my van and began approaching me.

Because I have a understanding that a gun can be a source of good things happening I am able to finish the story. As I rounded the back of the van myself, I put my hand into my front pocket and wrapped it around my legally carried handgun. When I hit the locked driver's door, I turned and put my back to the door, and faced outward, keeping my hand in the pocket. I had the confidence that if needed, I was going to be able to defend myself, and quite possibly, my life.

This must have showed on my face. The youths came around the back of the van and saw me calmly standing there waiting for them. I didn't say anything, and I didn't pull the gun - but my attitude certainly said they needed to reconsider any very-near future actions they were contemplating.

They were predators, and they understood this very well. Weak targets of opportunity are eaten quickly, but those who give strong indications that they'll bite back are left alone. They backed away, turned, and headed across the lot to places unknown.

The comfort is never in knowing that one can "take a life" with a gun, but the sure knowing that one can save a life with a gun. My life, my wife's, or maybe my daughters. These are the people I am responsible for.

I hope to never have to use a gun for defensive purposes. But knowing that is was there when I possibly needed it allowed me to go back home to my family that day, with no harm and no foul to anyone.

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Tariq 8 years ago

Interesting story. Happy to know you made it out safely. But sad to realize that this is the situation in many of our cities. Worse still is that thugs are now demanding that you simply acquiesce to criminality and "snitch or die".

You all are fortunate in Indiana as we are in Ohio...


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Predaking 8 years ago from Kansas

Glad you made it out safely and it was a good idea not having pulled the gun out until absolute point, which never happened. Wow that law did really put guns and safety back into our hands. I am glad here in Kansa we do not have much of this problem. We used too though, as Wichita got quite bad about 10 years ago. I am glad we finnaly got our cc rights here. Although most counties here it is legal to carry unconcealed and thats the best way :). then they never even cross the street. Good post brother people need to understand, and notice when they have come into crossairs.


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compu-smart 8 years ago from London UK

I would love the UK to have similar gun laws to other countrys! Yet your story would make decisions to shoot or not to shoot quite difficult at times im sure..

Thanks for passing by my

http://hubpages.com/hub/girls-and-guns-hot-picture...


Paul Squires 8 years ago

Well, I'm glad you made it out alive. And I suppose there is no point at all in quoting statistics to you about the number of people getting shot, especially with their own guns. I am very glad I don't live in your country, you seem to me to be a nation of violent irrational lunatics and I'm not just talking about the criminals. You have the the highest rate of imprisoning your own population than any other country on earth, you parade around like owning a gun is the same as having a penis, your children go mad regularly and shoot their classmates dead in huge numbers and yet you seem to think there is nothing wrong that more laws and more guns won't cure. A nation of nutcases.


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Jack Burton 8 years ago from The Midwest Author

Well, Paul... we're very glad you don't live in our country also. Anyone who replaces emoting with rational thinking and accepts every lie that comes down the pike is much better off somewhere else.

And it's strange in a way... I know thousands of people who own guns and none of them ever reference male genitalia except when discussing a medical problem... but give an anti-gun person about five minutes and he's off and running about penises as if it is hardwired into his brain. It make them seem kinda "icky" if you know what I mean

And since most people really don't want to associate with "icky" people that's as good of a reason as any why more and more people every day are coming to the pro-freedom side and leaving the anti-gun side.

Thanks, Paul... you are singlehandedly worth a couple of hundred NRA commercials for us. Keep up the good work of driving those fence sitters into the pro-gun side.


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Doc Rich 8 years ago

Jack, you've illustrated a couple of Constitutional issues in your article and were given the opportunity to defend youself when one of the issues was attacked. Democracy is a complex and demanding idea, one that can be both a blessing and a curse, if one doesn't grasp its application in the civilized world.

You Sir have demonstrated your understanding of the intent of the Constitution through the exercise of your rights and your ability to use discression and common sense.

Although I am not a supporter of guns in our society, I understand how quickly you had to decide on and go with your strategy in the face of odds that were not in your favor. Under the circumstances, any other action on your part would most likely have been deadly.

This is not intended to support violent answers to violent circumstances. That would not be civilized. What you did is what heros do. You saved at least two lives that may have ended without your maturity and insights into human nature.

Well done, on your actions, and your excellent Hub.


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Jack Burton 8 years ago from The Midwest Author

Doc... Everytime I slip my gun into my pocket I send up a little prayer that I spend a lifetime carrying it and yet never have to use it. And as long as those who choose to be predators leave me alone I will never be an immediate threat to them or anyone else. But one of my prime responsiblities is to come home safe to my family, or when they are with me to protect them to my utmost.


Paul Squires 8 years ago

Your most welcome. If I may politely and rationally inquire which of those statements is a lie 'which has come down the pike'. Per capita rates of imprisonment? Your children shooting each other? Or the fact that the majority of people injured by gunfire are injured by a gun owned by themselves or a family member?


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Jack Burton 8 years ago from The Midwest Author

"If I may politely and rationally inquire which of those statements is a lie 'which has come down the pike'"

Do your own homework...

http://www.gunfacts.info


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dlarson 8 years ago from Priest River, ID

It is truly a sad day for truth and freedom when people such as "Doc" demonstrate to the world where they get their information - from TV and newspapers who are owned and controlled by....?

Well? If you look deeply into it, you won't like what you'll find one bit! Personally, I have scrapped the TV, radio, and national newspapers. They're propaganda at its best and filled with 90% BS.

Another great HUB Jack!


Lee 8 years ago

There was nothing in this story that spoke of lunacy or irrational response or even a violent response yet a couple of YOU felt the need to introduce those aspects into this feedback when it has nothing whatsoever to do with the story. We generally call that that having an agenda. You don't care what the truth or facts are you just want to bend things or outright lie to advance your limp cause (clever play on words, huh?). Hey Jack, as a former resident of Indiana I have only one suggestion. Carry a bigger gun.

Paul (I bet you're in UK, huh?) - Your response is typical for a eunuch. No balls.

Doc Rich - so you're not a supporter of guns in our society? Stalin, Mao & Adolph would strongly support you. They might even give you dominion over your very own concentration camp to *practice* your medicine... (Dr. Mengle). While we all wish we lived in a green meadow with colorful butterflies and unicorns.. we don't. We live in an ugly world with violent and ugly people. Some people are alive simply because its illegal to kill them. Those with a clear understanding of the maintenance of a rational and healthy community could turn things around in one week in the U.S. Eternal vigilence is the price of liberty. The law has always belonged in the hands of the People. The OpenCarry movement is a most awsum expression of liberty and self-determination. God bless America.


Gunner 8 years ago

While I understand the reticence to shoot anyone, the circumstances you outline raise the inevitable question, "Where did the two 'yutes' go after determining you were not a 'soft' target?"

I submit that they likely went down the street to the next potential victim.

And that's the down side of not taking the thugs out. Sure, they walk away from you, on to the next person, and the next, and the next, committing, on average (for career criminals) over 300 crimes a year. But allowing them to come a little closer, to make their intent a little clearer, and then, legitimately, blowing their brains out, means that not only have you saved yourself, but you've saved countless other members of society.

If you'd iced the two punks, I would have said, "Good for you!", but as it is, I can only say, "I'm glad you survived."


Paul 8 years ago

"Paul (I bet you're in UK, huh?) - Your response is typical for a eunuch. No balls."

Well that certainly is a rational response. Very intelligent and cogent argument. No I am not in the UK. The fact remains that most people who are injured by gunfire are injured by their own guns or the guns of a family member. It is a fact. Owning a gun not only makes it more likely you'll get shot, but also makes it more likely that someone in your household, ie your family, will get shot. Like it or not, throw links to other gun totin' baccy chewing redneck sites all you like. But there is no point as I said before trying to have a rational discussion with you or your friends. I just thought you would be interested in how you are perceived by the rest of the world, as violent, ignorant, irrational lunatics. When the American Empire comes crashing down around your ears which it will soon, you will be the only people on the planet regretting it. The rest of us will be breathing a huge sigh of relief. Have a wonderful life. Goodbye.


RobC 8 years ago

Paul,

"The fact remains that most people who are injured by gunfire are injured by their own guns or the guns of a family member. It is a fact." Please site these facts, and where they come from. Here's a fact. Crime the UK has went up as self-defense has been made criminal. Ever hear of Tony Martin? He defended himself against a home invasion and was sent to prison. He used a shotgun. Fact criminals will get a gun no matter what the law states. You say that you are happy that he is alive, but you also say that he should not have had the tool he used to preserve it. Curious. Fact. I had to work in Gary Indiana myself, feeding the family you know, and it is necessary to conceal carry. You don't have the right to tell someone whether or not they can stay alive. There are bad people everywhere, who will prey on others for their own benefit. Even in your country, where ever that might be.


Paul 8 years ago

From the University of Utah.

" In another study, regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and suicide in the home (Dahlberg, Ikeda and Kresnow, 2004). It would appear that, rather than beign used for defense, most of these weapons inflict injuries on the owners and their families."

The article is a lot longer and more detailed containing many other references to particular studies.

http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/TUTORIAL/GUNS/...


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Jack Burton 8 years ago from The Midwest Author

Paul Sez:

The fact remains that most people who are injured by gunfire are injured by their own guns or the guns of a family member. It is a fact.

Jack Responds:

Fact eh? You have a cite for that, yes? Oh… you don’t? And the "paper" you referenced has nothing to say about that. You just made it up from thin air. Totally baseless. But typical. If it "feels good" say it. That’s the motto of the gun bigots. Truth doesn’t really enter into the picture as a necessity.

Paul sez:

Owning a gun not only makes it more likely you'll get shot, but also makes it more likely that someone in your household, ie your family, will get shot.

Jack Responds

Got a cite for that? No… of course not. And the "paper" you referenced has nothing to say about that. You just made it up from thin air. Totally baseless. But typical. If it "feels good" say it. That’s the motto of the gun bigots. Truth doesn’t really enter into the picture as a necessity.

Paul Sez:

Like it or not, throw links to other gun totin' baccy chewing redneck sites all you like.

Jack Responds:

Well that certainly is a rational response. Very intelligent and cogent argument. And ~this~ is the very best a gun bigot can debate?

Pitiful.

Paul sez:

But there is no point as I said before trying to have a rational discussion with you or your friends.

Jack Responds:

We haven’t noticed you trying to "have a rational discussion" yet. We’ve seen you emoting a lot… but that’s not quite "rational" eh.

Paul sez:

I just thought you would be interested in how you are perceived by the rest of the world, as violent, ignorant, irrational lunatics. When the American Empire comes crashing down around your ears which it will soon, you will be the only people on the planet regretting it. The rest of us will be breathing a huge sigh of relief. Have a wonderful life. Goodbye.

Jack Responds:

Well, this pretty much explains it all. We’re dealing with a typical Euro-trash American hater.

Only a total fool and an absolute madman would delight in seeing the end to a country that has saved Europe TWICE now from another dark ages, and saved Asia to boot. Not to mention rebuilding the entire continent and taxing our own citizens to keep the bootheel of the Soviets off from their neck for decades. And seeing that Eastern Europe was finally freed. And who have given trillions of dollars in aid and relief to hundreds of countries around the world with asking nothing in return.

But Paul doesn’t’ care. He just doesn’t understand that the ugly, older brother who’s been a failure all his life is naturally going to resent the handsome, rich younger brother who’s got a golden touch with everything. And we are somehow supposed to "care" that the ugly Euro-trash who can’t keep themselves at peace for five years unless we babysit them is upset with us?

Hey, Paul… try writing your posts in German or Russian and we can see how they sound.

Paul Says:

The article is a lot longer and more detailed containing many other references to particular studies.

Jack responds:

Let’s take a little closer look at just how clueless this cite is.

For instance, they say:

"This is reflected in our constitution, whose second amendment guarantees that "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Though the application of this amendment applied to maintenance of a militia, and not private gun ownership, "

Now… not even the leadership of the Brady Bunch believes this anymore. Actually just about three days ago the head of the Bunch had ~this~ to say about the 2nd Amendment…

""We've lost the battle on what the Second Amendment means," campaign president Paul Helmke told ABC News. "Seventy-five percent of the public thinks it's an individual right. Why are we arguing a theory anymore? "

When the head of the biggest pro-gun control org throws Paul overboard you can count on the fact that Paul is drowning about now.

Also, the "report" quotes Kellerman as if he hasn’t been discredited by everyone up to my momma. Not even Kellerman himself backs up his own studies now.

Read it yourself:

http://home.comcast.net/~dsmjd/tux/dsmjd/rkba/kell...

http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel013101.sh...

No… Paul… you’re going to have to do much better than to quote people who can’t even get that basics right. I’d double check their "study" to even make sure they spelled "and" and "the" right the next time you try to use a reference.


pmd013 8 years ago

BRAVO JACK!


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pennysdowell 8 years ago from US

Great story. I love a good ending. As you might know by my story I am also an advocate of our right to bear arms. Thanks for your post on my story also.


sevesteen 8 years ago

Paul:

I don't know the details of the study you point to, but similar studies miss some important distinctions--They generally lump illegally-posessed guns in criminal households with legal owners. Just under half of murder *victims* are convicted felons. A household with a felon is more likely to experience violence, a household with both a felon and a gun is FAR more likely. They also do not count the vast majority of defenseive gun use where no shots are fired, and the criminal either surrenders or retreats--The only things they count are when the intruder is shot, or in some cases only when the intruder is shot and killed.

If you look at the other end of the spectrum, check statistics on concealed carry license holders--The WORST statistic I've seen says we are 5 times more law-abiding than the general population. There are nearly 5 million of us nationwide--If guns were the problem, it would certainly have shown up among the licensed by now.


Colt Bennelli  8 years ago

Jack...

Thank you for vistiing my blog and leaving your comments. After reading this post on your CCW in Indiana and your comment on my blog. I agree that the best weapon is between the ears. That's why I have a CCW in Califonia, Utah and Florida. Between the different states I'm not only covered in my home state where crime has always been a problem in the "Land of Fruits and Nuts" but 30 other states where anything can happen at any time.

Good luck to all the law abiding Hoosiers.


Simon 8 years ago

Paul, I hope you understand that statistics are far too easily skewed. It is sad that Europe has convinced that majority of its subjects to think that self defense is somehow wrong, especially with an effective tool, God forbid. Guns are a piece of metal, no more and no less. They are a tool which can be used for good and for bad, just like any other tool. When used by the law-abiding, they are very effective at saving lives. When used by crooks, they can take lives.

So now, how do we take them away from the criminals? Well we can't, not without hurting the law-abiding. What else can we do? Get rid of the criminals! It's funny how simple the solution really is yet every gun-grabbing politician will never admit to it. Guns in well-behaved hands will also be well-behaved, I promise.

What is more scary is that when the citizens of a government are disarmed, they now lose the power to overthrow the government if need be. The government now becomes an overbearing watchdog in which the citizens have no choice but to put their blind faith in. Looking back at history, every government has needed reform due to corruption, and it has not happened easily. When your country's turn comes, it looks like the protest will be a lot more bloody due to the fact that you've been disarmed, and more importantly, the rebelious and freedom-loving sprit of your people has been quenched. That's the perfect breeding ground for tyrants, which now have no real resistance and can do whatever they choose under the guise of "the good of the people." I just pray that this doesn't happen in my country.

Paranoid? It may seem so on the surface, but looking at history I see no alternative. I think it's just you being naive. The truth can be overwhelming at times, especially when it's unpleasant. Sadly, the truth exists whether you acknowledge it or not.


Paul 8 years ago

Fascinating. But can I just repeat that I am not in Europe. (and people wonder why Americans are increasingly the butt of jokes, figures of fun all over the world,)


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Jack Burton 8 years ago from The Midwest Author

Paul... son... no one ~really~ cares where you live. Sorry but trash is trash no matter where it is found.


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OIFVETERAN 8 years ago from Atlanta, GA

But the democrats say you don't need to protect yourself, they'll do it for you. Where was Nancy Pelosi that day in Gary? Geart article!!


Tim Forney 8 years ago

I am glad to live in the USA (in a free state) where one has the "right" to defend oneself, I am glad the author of this story does also and I am glad you survived without having to use force. I also must commend you on doing everything right as it must be very difficult when faced with overwelming fear of injury or worse. God Bless.


Muhammad 8 years ago

It's a jolly good thing that you made it out not just alive, but also completely unharmed. Any idiot who tries to take away a law-abiding person's right to self-defence needs to be whipped bloody. If criminals know that they just might get blown to bloody hell by ten or fifteen armed chaps, they might think twice before attempting to commit any crime. I read a few weeks ago about a man who broke into a woman's house for the second time, having raped her the week before. As soon as he came within range she blew a nice big hole in his chest. The best bit, apart from the fact that she was not charged, was that the rapist took his time to croak. It seems he wandered about in the street for a while before he snuffed it. That is something that should have been played on everything news show and displayed prominently on every first page of the papers. Let the rapists and potential rapists know that their chests will get nicely ventilated if they ever attempt to lay a hand on a woman. Same thing goes for murderers, child molesters, and anyone attempting a violent crime.


R Parker 7 years ago

Consider yourself lucky. If this had happened to me (I live in the state of Maryland) I would have found myself reduced to defending myself with what ever I could pick up off the street and my hands. You see, I (a law abiding gun owner) have been denied by my state the right to keep and bear arms, unless of course I wish to suffer a lengthy jail stay AND lose my right to purchase and own guns because I commited a "crime" by exercising my second ammendment rights. So if this had happened to me i likely would have been beaten, robbed and most likley shot by the perpetrators for trying to fight them off. You see they don't care if they break the law, the criminals carry guns and if they get arrested they get out on bail and go find themselves another black market gun. I can't wait to leave this state and go somewhere that is more like Amercia.


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OldWitchcraft 3 years ago from The Atmosphere

Interesting story.

I have similar ones.

A few years ago, a gang of drug dealers moved into my very peaceful, pretty much crime-free area. We were all caught off guard, at first. It was our self-defense weapons - not the cops - who helped us get rid of them. It's along story and one I wouldn't post publicly, but having self-defense weapons might have saved lives and probably saved me from having my home invaded - I was one of their main targets because I identified their meth cook and forced them to move their lab. They threatened me with all kinds of violence for months.

Having a gun prevents crime.

The worst things have happened to me when I was deprived of the ability to defend myself - and this is how the criminals want it, including the criminals in government like most cops. Evil people don't want you to be able to defend yourself for a multitude of reasons - not the least of which is the political opportunism.


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Jack Burton 3 years ago from The Midwest Author

Some cops consider citizens with guns an infringement on their "job security". If too many people can defend themselves then there is not enough need for more cops. :-)


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OldWitchcraft 3 years ago from The Atmosphere

A lot of cops are robbers, rapists and killers, too - they want people disarmed so they can do their business. Over the years I've had a couple of problems with cops just because I'm a woman and they seem to think they can do whatever they want to us - and I guess many people agree that they can because they are supported no matter how many crimes they commit against innocent citizens, no matter how heinous those crimes are.

The reason the Founding Fathers wanted armed citizens was to protect against the law enforcement agents of the time from doing things like what the police today are doing.

In fact, it was just these kinds of activities that inspired the Revolutionary War - they attacked a woman and her children in their home. That's a lesson they don't teach in the high school history texts - it's a very brutal story. But, it is the same reality we are living with today - many people know this first hand like I do.

Things have come to the point for me now where being disarmed is not an option.

This is the thing the anti-2nd Amendment people don't see or don't want to see... or maybe they just love producing crime victims so they can feel good, wear a ribbon, collect some donations and pass some more tyrannical legislation.


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OldWitchcraft 3 years ago from The Atmosphere

Something else... I just got this information this evening and I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it just yet.

In the State of Missouri, a bill has been introduced by some Democrats that is so bad that I can't figure out why these people weren't immediately arrested for high treason. It is called House Bill 545. http://www.nraila.org/media/10886389/mo_hb_545.pdf

Here's more about it - they're going for gun confiscation: http://www.infowars.com/missouri-democrats-call-fo...

This bill was introduced by these criminals whose names will live in infamy, at least, until next election in response to House Bill 420.

Missouri is already an open carry state, but there is a problem in certain municipalities, which refuse to recognize the law - like Branson, Missouri.

We have major anti-gunners who call themselves Xians and Republicans in Silver Dollar City who have fought against Missourians most basic right to protection - they are major anti-2nd Amendment lobbyists - think about that before you book your next Branson vacation!

This bill, which these traitors are reacting to would make it legal in all municipalities for all CCP holders to open carry. That's a little strange to me because all people have the right to open carry, of course, but it is a step in the right direction.

If anyone reading this lives in the State of Missouri, please contact your state Rep. immediately and tell them you will not stand for this treason, House Bill 545.

We do not want to end up with Mexican-style checkpoints and Australian-style gun confiscation and that's where these criminals will take us if we let them... and it's going to be bloody if we go there, because this isn't Mexico or Oz. So, call your reps.

If you're not in MO, stay on top of the legislator's in your state... they are sneaky Petes.

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