Cracks In The Pot?

Showing What's Inside

Wednesday, May 25 2011, I got two pieces of good news. The first was that Pittsburgh Steeler's wide receiver Hines Ward has captured the trophy on Dancing With the Stars, and a Democrat had won a special election in a solidly conservative Republican district of New York State. I saw this win as yet another sign that the "Tea Party" wing of the GOP is cracking. The election was seen as a referendum on the GOP's plan to make Medicare into a private program, likely with huge windfalls to it contributors in the insurance and pharmaceutical industries.

It seems to be a trend in America, the tide turning against the "Tea Party"; recall efforts in Wisconsin and Michigan and referendum in Ohio. The question is, 'Why?'

The answer is simple, people are realizing that are the anger that the "Tea Party", and it's media voices like Beck and Limbaugh stirred up, was to mask that fact that they lacked any new ideas. The whole agenda of the 'Tea Party' was to obstruct or roll back legsilation that threatened the corporate interests that provide so much of the money, and bankroll the media outlets that keep the 'Tea' boiling. People are now seeing this, and how likely more than a few of them were tricked into voting against their economic interests and for those whos goal is is kind of 'USA Inc.', an America run by, and for the interests of people like the Koch Brothers.

The 'Tea Party' crowd likely won't see it this way. AM-Radio and it's cable news affiliate will continue to spin all of this as a plot by George Soros, 'Community Organizers', etc. The question is, when will enough people in the Republican Party see it, if they ever do.

From The Ed Shultz Show. . .

33 comments

HSchneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

Great Hub. I agree with you but it was the Paul Ryan budget plan, especially his Medicare voucher section, that sealed the Republican's fate in that election. They seem to be sticking by it but are trying to refine or lie about their message. The Democrats need to keep pounding them on this outrageous and uncaring plan and not let them lie and get the public relations upper hand.


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

H:

And to me that plan ties in to a larger issue, the "Tea Party" and those who bankroll it, desire to have corporations have as much power as possible.


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junko 5 years ago

Teapartycrasher, You are 100% right. Now many Tea Party supporters know that they weren't out there to protest the future of their children grandchildren. They understand now that the Conservative Agenda will soon put them in competition with their children and grandchildren for entry-level jobs the rest of their working lives. vote up. Do it again.


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BobbiRant 5 years ago from New York

LOL Great hub. Yes, cracks in the pot or 'crackpot?' I like that. Yes Medicare showed their true nature, trying to kill a good share of the population off. But today, now the military wants to use 'military actions against China' LOL, all China has to do is pull money from American banks, and whoops, the haughty military has NO money to to ANY kind of action against Anybody. Psychopaths, the entire lot of them!


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Mimi721wis 5 years ago

Super hub, The republicans were a little arrogant after the November election. Their true wolf agenda is out. Now they have painted themselves in a corner. I'm shocked Scott Walker continue to be such a jerk even with the voter recall efforts in place. Still some our republican leader refuse to give an inch when it come to the working class. Less than two weeks ago all the republican party and two democrats voted for the oil companies to continue receiving subsidies. Eric Cantor had the gall to suggest no funds for disaster victims ss until it's known where the money may come from.


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

Yes, the Tea Party is crashing. LOL!

It's hard to believe so many could be fooled by so few. I suppose it all seemed alluring that the government was going to punish all those lazy bums that count on the government but then oops, darn if they didn't discover that the powers that be thought they were lazy bums too. Poetic justice!

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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TPC,

being as I live in the area let me set you straight...

The only reason that lying B Hochul won was she had nelp from a fke Tea Partier Jack davis- He was as much a Tea Partier as you are- and the GOP candidate was too dumb to go after him for being a non-Tea partier uNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE... Jack Davis siphoned off enough GOP votes as a fake Tea Partier that corwins inept ability to point it out to any great degree allowed Hochul to skate into the SEAT

. Jack Davis had a closer idea of economics to Paul Krugman than Palin and bachman-

Don't get excited the idiots in that district got tricked by Davis. DAVIS HAS PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO WIN 3 times as a DEM- he lost 3 times to shirtless Chris Lee-

had he not posed shirtless on a dating site he would have won easily.. He prolly could have run after the scandal and beat Hochul...TRUST ME I LIVE IN THE AREA- Former Dem/LIAR Jack Davis split the vote by claiming he was a Tea Partier-otherwise Hocul would have no job right now... I live up here i know the truth...

Don't get to excited about this....

Just people being fooled by a LIE and a GOP candidate being over confident and lazy till the end

Sorry but NO need or reason to really celebrate this one

TH


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Tom:

Your 'truth', from how you respond to my hubs, seems little more that the corporate propaganda you get from AM-Radio and it's cable affiliate.

THe 'truth' that people in this district, and the citizens of Ohio and Wisconsin, etc see is based on observing what legislation is coming from the 'Tea Party' and who's really calling the shots.

In my opinion. . .


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TPC,

Speaking only of the NY Race- I live right near the district, Unfortunately the AM radio guy I listened to was for Hochul- But the facts are the facts if stupid Jack stays out- Corwin beats Hochul- if Davis does not say he's a tea Party guy or just plain stays out I don't think Hochul gets enough votes to win...I do not know enough about the other races I admit that right now...to comment but in THIS RACE- I am overly educated and aware of the truth- I am not sure of what the MSm has said about it but I am sure that the fakery put on by Davis is rarly mentioned...

TPC-have a good day

TH


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

Most of the Tea Party rank and file are considered "useful idiots" Thanks, TPC


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Credance,

Your a typical liberal responder- shoot your mouth off and make sense never....Id rather be a useful idiot than just an idiot...

Good luck at being useful someday...

T


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Jillian Barclay 5 years ago from California, USA

Wow, TPC!

Don't you just love the fan mail? Unbelievable, right?

So happy that you get called names, too!

Your article was, of course, excellent! Anytime you hit a nerve, you know that you have been effective!

And of course Ryan's plan was the reason Hochul won!


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Lynn Ella 5 years ago

Great article. The teapot may have cracked a bit, but they have been very effective at playing to the predominantly white middle class.

My hope for the coming decade is that we all move more to the middle. That we find a way to make ourselves energy independent in whatever ways work best for the individual regions of our nation, establish a safety net (including healthcare) for everyone in this society, and that we increase manufacturing and purchase of American goods by Americans. If we don't find a way to make those who support the Tea Party feel wanted and needed in American society, they will do everything they can to derail those efforts.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TPC,

Jill, I am not sure who called YOU or TPC anything- my comment was at Creedy the one slinging names and insults FIRST.

TPC and I have a muual "non-aggression pact" He is a lefty that is actually a decent fellow....

Lynn,

The Tea Party caters to people of like minds- just like the black panthers do...except without the violence and intimidation...

I hope you would consider the Black Panthers "playing to a predominantly" single group/type of people too. As for everyone mushing together in the squishy middle that would also be disasterous because there will always be extremisys on both side pushing and pulling their own ways...

TH


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Lynn Ella 5 years ago

TH:

The Tea Party indeed caters to people of like minds and the difference between the Tea Party and the Black Panthers is that the Tea Party has 80% of the population to market to and the Black Panthers have/had about 15% to whom they can market their message.

As for the "squishy middle" - I would call that living in the real world. We're all free to have our views on an ideal society, but we need to live together in society and compromise is a necessity to make the nation strong and to make all groups feel valued including the Tea Party AND the Black Panthers AND LaRaza AND everyone else.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

LE, putting the Tea Party in a class of psuedo-terroristic groups like those other two is almost criminal the Tea Party does not use intimidation and obvious Racial tensions and overtones to push or beat their message into the media and people it has been shown many times any misbehaving or racist signs and symbols at Teaparty rallies were leftist plants that were usually kicked out by the tea partiers for being a$$h()le$... But I am sure the mainstream media only reported those people were there but not that they were tossed out... The teaparty unlike recent UNION THUG demonstrations are Nonviolent and clean up after themselves unlike the aforementioned groups were when demonstrating...

TH


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

Well, Tom, looks like that icon of a fire breathing dragon is more than symbolic, huh. Cool your jets, I am not attacking you personally. It is courageous of you to dare climb into the lion’s den, that is noteworthy. But, now that you are here, remember I am a lion and I have to maul you just a bit.

“The Tea Party caters to people of like minds- just like the black panthers do...except without the violence and intimidation...

I hope you would consider the Black Panthers "playing to a predominantly" single group/type of people too. As for everyone mushing together in the squishy middle that would also be disasterous because there will always be extremisys on both side pushing and pulling their own ways”

Fortunately for most of us, the Tea Party only represents a swatch of the population. The Black Panthers do not have a major political kissing its arse, so don’t compare gnat **** to cantaloupe. My job is to bring the hidden agenda of the tea party out into the light of day. Bringing into plain site that which they sweep under the rug. So you say that the racist placards and signs are plants by liberals huh? Maybe the so called intimidation from the Union groups and the Black Panthers are the same. You are not Rupert Murdoch, so how do you know? Was it not last December where one of the TPM prominent spokespersons mentioned an idea of requiring voters to own property. So their interpretation of the Constitution is that we all wear powdered wigs and knee britches? The rank and file sure swept that under the rug fast, can’t let that line of fascism and tyranny get to ears of the general public, can we? And don’t blame the press, like most of you always do. I generally do not like rightwingers, but I will keep my brass knuckles in my pocket if you agree to do the same. I am here to call the rightwinger to account and bring its philosophies into the light of day to be carefully examined. I promise to confront these people using the tools of the political process and within the realm of the exchange of ideas (no second amendment remedies as advocated by the rightwinger) and I will work very hard to be polite while working on the objective.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

C2,

Marcus of Queensbury rules it is... I shall return with my gloves on mouth piece in so that we may fight like civilized animals...

Baseball/soccer practices first see you in 5-6 hours until then adeiu...

TH


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

I am beggining to like you already, let's hear what you have say after soccer practice. You will find my sword (fountain pen) sharpened, sir.


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

I will say this Credence may have it right.

The Koch Brothers and similar individuals likley do see the Tea Party as 'useful idiots'. People that can be easily conviced to vote for thier vision of a corporate state and against their own economic interests.

It's a common thread I see in many right-wing movements, past and present.


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

TPC, that is the rub, The true mystery wrapped in an enigma. The rightwing propaganda machine is of immense power.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

QUICK COMMENT BOYS the RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA MACHINE... HUH? 1 news network and talk radio is a macine while all of HOLLYWOOD culture, 95% OF CABLE NEWS AND SEVERAL RADIO OUTLETS but their is a right wing media conspiracy.... against the left wing media monopoly complex.. if you frame it that way i can accept your "conspiracy theory" otherwise- the lefties control a MAJOR piece (practically a monopoly for print , TV,) logs and Radio( admittedly-not so much for radio). so the immense power is actually in the left wing court... by numbers and media sources...unfortunately i'm cleaning my basement- sump pump died or quit... must be a union sump pump... haha ... i'll be back- didnt want you to think I forgot... as I've been known to do..

untill after the waters receede..

G'day.. *slosh -slosh*

TH


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Credence- TPC, Ahoy from the good ship - ss My baSEMENT...

I came into this lions den…to see what is going on if we need to discuss a few things fine, now that the basement is drying I can discuss things without the cats swimming to take a dump down stairs… Sorry TMI… Lets start with “Fortunately for most of us, the Tea Party only represents a swatch of the population”. OK stat time * making the telegraph beeping sound * - FLASH- - LETS SEE 10% of USA attended rallies 35-40% of the population approve of the TEA PARTY – 10% never heard of them amazing there are still mole people in surveys or they are bad liers…I admit these numbers depend on where you look…. But if a “swatch” is 35-40% that’s one big a$$ swatch or swath even. I have seen stats on B Panther enrollment is not high true but they seem to influence/intimidate some folks at election time for sure and not like minded voters.

-TELL that to voters in PA last presidential election.Ask em how they felt about the panthers???.

Tea party racism---The people in the TEA parties shunned and rebuked those carrying the RACIST SIGNS – THAT’S HOW I KNOW, I have read multiple articles and heard and saw live coverage of Tea Party events & went to one in my area as well… I found multiple articles indicating how pics were photoshopped to appear Racist – see- http://biggovernment.com/bowens/2010/07/15/think-p... for evidence of professional signs made by racist libs…It was funny how the Tea party signs were all hand-made except the racist signs- AND many times those with the racist signs were shouted down N kicked out. http://www.black-and-right.com/2010/07/15/think-pr...

Bob Owens at Big Government reported that the far left Think Progress blog was using liberal-manufactured signs from Crash the Tea Party as evidence of tea party racism. – but I am sure that you will site sources saying the Tea party is Racist – so I guess neither of us will believe the other- so the point will turn into a stalemate of grand proportions. I am not Rupert Murdoch and your not Ted Turner- so we can throw references and pictures back and frth but its not gonna convince any of us as we attack the websites references and get nothing solved or agreed upon other than- any groupyou support I don’t and vice versa….

Silliness stated by individuals Voting by property owners or those with permanent addresses ( that I favor- ID everyone to vote) makes more sense than mandatory health coverage or “passing a bill to know whats in it” or lets employ a seldom used legislative maneuver to DEEM the bill passed to avoid a vote that would not have gone well for Nancy Harry and Barry But alas - that line of fascism and tyranny has gotten to the ears of the general public already, and sane people did not like it!!! Oh, and don’t blame Fox News and talk radio as most of you lefties do. I am here to call the lefty liberalism types out and hold’em to account and bring their philosophies into the light of day to be carefully examined for the fakery it is. I promise to confront you LIbs using facts and logic and I will be fairly polite while working on the objective of spreading truth to the under informed.

Have a good day new pals

TH


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Credence2 5 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

First of all Tom, I don't want to do mayhem to you in someone else's parlour, it is not polite. What is an article that you have written that well explains tenets of your philosophy. I will proceed to thrash you in your own backyard as you can me in mine. I will stand 100% behind anything that I write. So, what is it that the rightwinger wants, really?

Second of all, we need more credible web sources then Faux News and its backalley cousins. You will have to do better than that. The sites that you reference this last time are rightwing rags, they on the sheer basis of being rightwing can, by definition, never be impartial! But, I forget, you guys believe that 95 percent of the remaining media is somehow biased toward you. I will have to work to understand that one.

Is the Congressional Budget Office or Fact Check. org, too liberal for you?


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Credence and TH:

If things get out of hand--I'll ask you to take it outside. As this seems to be more between you two than me.

But it will say that the Right does seem to live in a bubble, relying on FOX News(?) to back up what Beck and Limbaugh tell them. For religious fundys, it's more of the same.

Also, how 'liberal can something that's corporate-owned be. I think the MSM could do a lot better reporting on the Tea Party, but they can't offend advertisers; so you see more web-based organizations like Shared Sacrfice Radio, Equal Time Radio, and my home's Rick Smith Show filling in the gaps.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Credence i can see this will turn into a bad scene regardless because if we gine facts or sources- it seems the other will only attack the source as well as the statement....I do not trust fact check as yoou donot trust Snopes as i do not trust CNn, MSNBC CBS NBC as you do not trust Fox... I do not trust air America.. oh wait they are gone and you dont trust Limbaugh hannity Levin and the like...I do not trust the Obama group more than you doo not trust the Bush admin... i fear we will start attacking the sources and not the premises after a qhile- so to quote the great philospher allen Parsons "Where do we go from here?" "Games people play in the middle of the night" If only we could find an unbaised source... lest the stalemate be unbroken

TH

fact check.org is a decidedly leftwing supported by a leftist org...


Mico 5 years ago

Nice views, the republicans need to have some solid footing or agenda. http://www.micocrane.com/


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dfager 5 years ago from Federal Way, Washington

This political split between parties is ruining our country. If the tea partiers and republicans weren't so nutty, I'd vote republican just so congress and the president could get something done. However, I can't in good conscious vote for any candidate but democrat. I don't know if I'm more frustrated in the republican candidates thinking that americans are so stupid, or the american people for voting for them. Corporate control of america would be far worse then anything we've ever seen before. It would lead to the average person losing their voice in politics.


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

df:

I don't know either.

But when you have a media machine like what the corps have, it's easy.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TPc,

2 sources fox news & talk radio vs 5 "news" channels the white ouse media machine countless newspapers, magazines and bloggers online dont forget the radio and TV monopoly for 40 years????

TH


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA Author

Tom:

http://www.fair.org

Also; if the media is so 'Liberal', why is there a need for something like 'Project Censored', or 'Alternative Outlets' like Pacfica, HORN (Head On Radio Network), Shared Sacrifice Radio, The Nation, Mother Jones, etc.


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JamaGenee 5 years ago from Central Oklahoma

One more Repub went down in Wisconsin, by a 2-1 margin. Beck is gone. Now Murdoch and Co are under the microscope on two continents, with more of the same coming up. Love it!

Personally, I think the Tea Partiers in Congress recognize they have a small - very small - window of opportunity to ram through everything KochBros and BigCorp paid them to get passed. By this time next year, I predict the Tea Party will be gone AND the Repub Party will be in shambles, more than they already are. Would be nice if Faux Noise goes down with them.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

TPC,

i really had not heard of some/any of those organizations/whatever they are- so I LOOKED SOME UP-

mother JONES Looks like typical Left wing bird cage liner material - not at all "objective"-Head on radio sounds like one guy without sponsers but plenty of big environmental money to eek out an existance in WV.

Shared Sacrufice radio does not show up in the first 3 pages on google they must be huge

this came right off the KFPA (Pacifica.org)website Over the past five years KPFA has suffered a 27% drop in annual income -- including a 30% decline of more than a $1.2 million in annual listener support. Since 2007 KPFA has lost almost $1.5 million overall. Do you hear that sound its the sound of Pacifica on life support...oops time to pull the plug...put it out of its misery...I will say The Nation has a legitimate although left wing tilt to it the website looked well done -Circulation peaked at 187,000 in 2006 but by 2010 had dropped back to 145,000 in print, though digital subscriptions had risen to over 15,000.Interedting history on the nation-Almost every editor of The Nation from Villard's time to the 1970s was looked at for "subversive" activities and ties. Wow I wouldnt publisize that too much TPC... Jamma Gee - keep dreamin... of your socialist saviors- Look at russia and greece and all those other socialist nations you want to be like them- broke and destitude keep voting democrat-

TH

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