Dateline: Purgatory - Darlie Routier Book

Darlie has been almost 20 years in prison and still has held to her innocence of the crime she was convicted of.
Darlie has been almost 20 years in prison and still has held to her innocence of the crime she was convicted of. | Source

Kathy Cruz Investigation

A new look at an old mystery.

Dateline: Purgatory is a fairly recent book out by Kathy Cruz. I was very anxious to read it knowing it would lead me through all the trial and days of the trial and conviction of Darlie Routier.

I have read through the court documents so much and I have read 1001 views of others. I find that quite a few of us (myself being one) who had no doubts that Darlie did this looked at it differently once we found out there was more than one scene at the silly string grave party that showed two sides of this mother. We only saw what the prosecution wanted us to see. (Much like the biased press of today.)

Kathy tells us how Dana, Darlie's younger sister has had a lifetime now of guilt being the one to bring the silly string and possibly causing the prosecution to have a ploy to convince not only the jury this made Darlie guilty but perhaps the general public.

It does seem clear in this reading that the jury will only see what the prosecution wants them to see. It is undeniable that the defense put little if any effort in this trial and objected to very little.

So it is very easy to see how a jury could be persuaded. So very much they do not see of what they should have and on one important issue they are even lied to.

Yet this does not call for a new trial? Let's see what you think from the information in this book.


Dateline Purgatory is full of food for thought for how this trial went.
Dateline Purgatory is full of food for thought for how this trial went. | Source

So Many Things Missed!

Such a sad excuse for a lawyer!

Several friends saw the sores in Darlie’s mouth and fed her ice to help the pain she is having even being half out of it. She was also heavily medicated the day of the silly string and suffering from dry mouth and was why she was acting loopy and smacking gum someone had given her for dry mouth her friends claim.

Could Darlie have been knocked out with ether or xylene it is questioned. Since these both were easy to obtain in 1996 for auto parts but also for building computer hard drives. This would answer so much of Darlie's actions and her sore mouth. This would have wiped out memory of the happenings and possibly struggle with someone trying to kill her and certainly answer all the confusion she had.

Neither of the Routier’s cars are in the driveway this night and the sports car is broken down. They were preparing to leave for vacation and did someone perhaps not seeing any cars think they were already gone?

They claimed no dust was wiped from the window that someone was supposed to have come through and the dirt was not disturbed. Darlie’s best friend’s husband (Kenneth Waits) said he checked this out after her sentencing and there was no dirt beneath the window to be disturbed and not only that but the big window was only about six inches off the ground which meant anyone could step right through it not having to disturb dust. He said they lied about all of that that was listed in her arrest affidavit. (Why did the defense not check any of this out?)

ugh the murders of her two sons instead of suggesting she may have been unconscious during that time which greatly affected the jury’s thinking. Did no one on the defense team question her muddled memory and what could possibly cause it if not the sliced throat?

Was there ever any suspect besides Darlie?
Was there ever any suspect besides Darlie? | Source

Tired of being Daisy Duke

Darlie asked Darin for a divorce just hours before the attacks on her and her sons. She said she did not feel like being Daisy Duke for him anymore dressing sexy in front of her sons was starting to bother her conscience and they were fighting about it often. So this was not the first time she threatened to divorce him; other times he threatened to hurt himself in front of their sons if she left him; but this time he just went upstairs and went to bed.

Working free for belief in Darlie's innocence

Stephen Cooper became Darlie’s court appointed lawyer in 1997 after her conviction no doubt because she had no more funds for a lawyer but this lawyer has gone on representing her at no charge because he believes in her innocence as so many have.

Several witnesses told the police they had seen a black car just before these murders. That they appeared to be watching the Routier house! Why would they lie? (The book will also tell you about a white truck that Darlie reported seeing that day and the connection it could have to two criminal thugs who claimed to have done some stabbing that night!)

Terry Laber and Bart Epstein, blood splatter experts, were prepared to testify that Darlie had not staged a crime scene but were never called to testify by Darlie’s Lawyer Mulder! They had already been paid except for travel expense to come testify. Mulder did not think they had anything to add to the case so he did not call them. With practically nothing for the defense why would he make this choice?

The defense kept claiming that Darlie slept through the murders of her two sons instead of suggesting she may have been unconscious during that time which greatly affected the jury’s thinking. Did no one on the defense team question her muddled memory and what could possibly cause it if not the sliced throat?

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Convenient Afterthoughts?

Casting doubt

Mulder claimed he was only Darin’s lawyer for less than 60 seconds when he was accused of breaking a gag order he had not been cautioned about. If Darlie was the only client then to save her life why did he not mention Darlie asking him for a divorce or mention the high insurance on Darlie’s life which the jury never got to hear about? He did bring it up for the sentencing…would that not have been important to at least put one doubt in the jury's mind?

Reasonable doubt?

A partial bloody print that still has not been identified.
A partial bloody print that still has not been identified. | Source

Unidentified fingerprint

The unidentified bloody partial fingerprint that was found on a glass sofa table by crime scene investigator James Con, between the room of the attacks and the kitchen was said during trial to be of a child’s between the age of five and six. After the trial a forensic anthropologist said it was a print of an unidentified adult. Although a scan of it could very well name the owner if the print is clear enough; law enforcement has to make that request and so far they clearly have no intent of doing so.

Is Darlie Routier Guilty?

Are you convinced of Darlie's guilt or do you think she could have been railroaded?

  • Yes she did it and that is what I will always believe!
  • I really am not familiar with the case.
  • I am not sure what I believe.
  • I think she was railroaded and has wasted her life for a crime she did not commit!
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1. It was not at first known how the necklace became embedded but after removal two nicks were found in the necklace. The necklace could have well been what kept a main artery from being severed.

2. Investigator who questioned Darlie in hospital did not use recordings or written notes.

3. It wasn’t until five years after Darlie’s conviction that Darin confessed to plotting a break in for insurance scam.

4. With the growing number of influential people convinced of Darlie's innocence why can no one help her?

5.The sock in the alley contained Damon’s blood and no blood trail from Darlie was found meaning if she inflicted her own wounds it had to be after she stabbed him and since he was still living when the first respondent's arrived it meant he had to have been stabbed just minutes before not allowing the timeline it would have taken for Darlie to have done it and this from courtroom testimony. So Darlie had to be ruled out as the one to do this. No one bothered.

6. Sarilda, Darlie’s mother-in-law saw a mass of black bruises under Darlie’s hospital gown on her body not in view. Was this photographed? A nurse called these defense wounds.

7. Sandy Aitken, Darin’s aunt noted the judge went to sleep 16 times during the trial and was asleep seriously when the Rowlett Police Lieutenant James Walling was testifying about handling of bloody crime scene evidence some of which he put in the car and defense attorneys concerned with inexperienced police officers putting articles in the same bag making transference a possibility changing the interpretation of blood splatter.

8. All the evidence has been kept in brown grocery bags since 1996; moved around and back and forth when it should have been vacuum sealed! (You can see them in video below.)

9. The material found in the bread knife they claimed were from the screen was also consistent with fibers in a brush they would have used over fingerprints. Charles Linch who did this testing on this had been hospitalized for alcoholism and depression just previous to this which was not known until years later.

10. Why does the information sent back to the jury by court reporter Sandra Halsey saying the utility door was locked (which it was not but the garage door was locked) make grounds for a new trial? They had to wonder why there was absolutely no damage to this door when in fact all anyone had to do was simply open and walk in.

"An earthquake achieves what the law promises but does not in practice maintain — the equality of all men."

— Ignazio Silone
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Silvia Chase 3 years after Darlie's conviction

Forgiveness for Precious Angels

Barbara Davis who wrote Precious Angels accusing Darlie of killing her two sons now believes Darlie was railroaded.

Davis was in the house with her 25 year old son three years after Darlie was convicted when police broke down the door and shot and killed her son and arrested her. This was from a false police report in a drug investigation and Barbara had to grieve her dead son from jail; the same as Darlie Routier had hers. She changed her mind about Darlie’s guilt and apologized to Darlie and was instantly forgiven the same as the juror who asked forgiveness for his guilty vote.

More interesting tidbits

The Routier hose was torn all to pieces and parts of furniture, walls and appliances even, were taken as evidence. In the mass of things taken from the Routier house is Darlie's Will for her boys. She states who they should go to and how their inheritance would not be given to them until they are 25 if they do not go to college and that if they should marry the money would be protected by

So many questions

Here are a few that Dateline:Purgatory brings up:

Who was the man Darin saw in the house and thought was a policeman before the first policeman showed up? (If he is telling the truth; could this be the or one of the intruders going out the front door before police arrive?)

If Darlie threw the sock in the alley as a prop to make herself look innocent then why does she never mention it? When she is questioned she never says a word about the sock. So what was the point if she did indeed put it there?

Did prosecutors use breast implants and a male stripper to get the death penalty for Darlie? (They spent repeated times putting Darlie down as a woman to the jury as if that equaled murderer. Did it to the jury?)

What other mother has killed her children with her husband just feet away in the same house? (Can you name one?)

What was the motive given for Darlie killing her sons? (What mother who no longer wants her kids are so involved in their lives (school and home) as Darlie was?

Darlie's defense lawyer, Mulder, claimed he was only Darin’s lawyer for less than 60 seconds when Darin was accused of breaking a gag order he had not been cautioned about. If Darlie was the only client then to save her life why did he not mention Darlie asking Darin for a divorce or mention the high insurance Darin had on Darlie’s life which the jury never got to hear about? (Mulder only brought it up for the sentencing once she was found guilty.)

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Court Transcripts Incorrect

One of many flaws in this case.

Self-inflicted? In hospital photo. Main artery barely missed in her neck. Two jurors swear they never saw these photos.
Self-inflicted? In hospital photo. Main artery barely missed in her neck. Two jurors swear they never saw these photos.
Prosecution claim Darlie inflicted these wounds on herself before or after she stabbed her sons and ran and threw a sock down the alley.
Prosecution claim Darlie inflicted these wounds on herself before or after she stabbed her sons and ran and threw a sock down the alley.

I simply cannot believe Darlie made these wounds on herself and I do not see how anyone could. What other mother that murdered or tried to murder their child did this sort of injury to themselves? I really would like to see an example. Darlie always looked like a doll and there was no testimony from anyone that she ever enjoyed injuring herself. These are deep bruises and wounds; it took a lot of effort for them to be made. They are so obviously defense wounds; how much thought and effort it took if these were done by her and I will never believe she did this.

The jury asked if the utility door was locked and the answer sent back to them by the court reporter Sandra Halsey was ‘yes it was locked’ but the true answer was Darin said the garage door was locked but not the utility door. So the jury could have and maybe did assume from this that the utility door going into the house should have shown forced entry if someone came in through the window with the torn screen and through that door. Of course it did not have damage, being unlocked, but the jury never knew this.

There was a real mess also with this court reporter who was going through marital trouble with her husband and she claimed to not have the trial transcripts that were for some reason in her garage and to keep from getting into trouble she claimed they had been erased and she didn’t have them. Then she went before a judge and according to this book admittedly lied.

The court had to have them redone and was out the $74,000 Halsey was paid plus that again. Halsey allegedly had 3300 errors in the transcripts; misspellings, typographical errors, omitted words and misidentified speakers!

Supposedly when all this was said and done (the book is not clear on who said this) it was offered to Darlie to admit her guilt and they would take death off the table and she would just have life. She knows death could be coming soon since she is older and her notoriety is wearing off and the state would feel better in doing that now.

But she said no; she refused to say she was guilty of killing her sons; as she has continued to do now for almost 20 years. She says she is ready to die if that is how it is to be and that God must have His reason for all she has been through.

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Faith Reaper profile image

Faith Reaper 16 months ago from southern USA

Wow, Jackie, you should have been an investigative reporter! I must have been under a rock when this happened, for I don't recall this story. From what you have written here, though, it sounds like they did not investigate this very well at all, and she may have been railroaded! Seems there are a lot of unanswered questions. Did they ever suspect her husband? If she was about to leave him and take the kids, sometimes the husband will have a mental break and kill the wife along with the children. This just happened I saw in the news recently, sadly.

Now, I am interested in reading more about the story after reading your article here. You would think that with all of the DNA stuff available nowadays, they could have proven something or not.

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Interesting hub!


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

This happened almost 20 years ago Theresa and I, like many others, saw her shooting silly string over her kids graves and knew she was guilty of murder and I believe that is what the prosecution used besides a couple of things they knew would make her look like a tart and that is what they got her prosecuted on.

The filming was against the law I am pretty sure someone said but the ones who did it plead the 5th and did not have to testify and of course they did not show Darlie leaning on her sister bawling and services they had by the graves. I saw Darlie talk about her babies and a mother that loves deeply I believe recognizes another. They may have named the ones who killed them in this book but I didn't want to give it all away. The father could have played a part in it and he def failed the polygraph but it was after the prosecution.

Such a shame to no sooner lose your kids then be thrown in jail for all these years and her so young.


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Faith Reaper 16 months ago from southern USA

Wow, how terrible for all! I don't understand how anyone can be convicted of murder just because of stuff like that ... maybe her kids loved to play with silly string and she was just having memories of them?

Gosh, if they know who really did it, then they need to let her out of prison! I couldn't imagine losing my children to such a heinous act and then to be thought guilty of killing them and to spent 20 years in prison for something you didn't do!


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fpherj48 16 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie....Now I can barely wait to get my hands on this book. Unlike the majority of the public, I believed Darlie innocent from the start. Just the life-threatening knife slash she suffered was really all it took for me to sit up straight and pay attention! I don't care WHO you are, no one does this much serious damage to themselves just to appear as though they too had been attacked.

There were other slight hints that I focused on that I'm sure got past most people. Much of my life, I closely investigated crime scenes and

studied persons of interest in depth.

This mother was railroaded by an over zealous prosecutor & local law enforcement, a small-minded, judgmental community and her own naivety.

I have hoped and prayed that one day the truth would be uncovered....I'm so tempted to beg you to tell me about the book! LOL...but I'll read it.

Thanks!..UP+++ Here's to Darlie!


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

So true Theresa; but you would not believe how many people have judged her for not being a saint and will almost cuss you out for even thinking she did not do it.


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Probably looks as if I told the whole story Paula but you will love reading all the people Kathy interviewed and all the things they told her. I couldn't wait to get my hands on it and I was not disappointed...only that reading all I did Darlie is still where she is!

I gave up reading true crime years ago but I have always hung onto this story thinking surely something or someone would come through for Darlie.


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word55 16 months ago from Chicago

Good story Jackie, I'm on your side. I don't see how Darlie could do such a thing. You covered this well. Be blessed!


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fpherj48 16 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie....I went immediately to find the new book on Amazon and read NUMEROUS comments. I was floored by one after another of claims made that indicates the public (especially Texans) are solidly stuck-in-stupid....Refuse to accept the possibility of Darlie's innocence and reject Kathy's book as "opinion" rather than fact.

What a sad event this is. It boggles my mind. There's such a general vicious attitude toward Darlie. Ignorance abounds and as you and I both know, ignorance is incredibly difficult to surmount. When people turn away and refuse to even listen, the effort becomes futile. The saddest part is that this is the stubborn stance of the Prosecution as well.

Thanks so much for this exposure, Jackie. You're re-awakened my fury!.....Peace, Paula


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billybuc 16 months ago from Olympia, WA

The name sounds familiar but I really know nothing about this. Thanks for the summary and the book recommendation. I just might have to read this one.


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thank you word; this is not something I am usually into but this goes back many years especially for this innocent mother waiting on the death room!


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

We can hope Paula that this leads to something. One person is still alive that may have had something to do with this murder or have firsthand knowledge if not; so unless he is killed in prison...maybe someone can get to him to change things for Darlie. It is the only sure thing I can see that the state cannot get around. Just hope he is not in Texas!


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

It is a great read Bill. If you don't get it right away it may be in library soon. The videos tell you a lot too! There are countless ones at YouTube.

Thanks for stopping by and reading!


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Larry Rankin 16 months ago from Oklahoma

Eyeopening article.


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MsDora 16 months ago from The Caribbean

I never heard about this either, but what you have written has sparked my interest and I intend to look it up. Thanks for reporting.


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thank you Larry!


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Hope you will Dora and tell us what you think. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts! YouTube is full of it (if you don't want to read a book) with differing opinions.


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travmaj 16 months ago from australia

Hi Jackie, this sounds sad and yet fascinating at the same time. I hadn't heard about it but certainly intend to read it. We had a similar case here many years ago, a young wife Lindy Chamberlain. She was eventually cleared but spent some years in prison. Thank you for your excellent review.


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thank you for reading this travmaj; so pleased you took an interest in it. I do hope someone makes a breakthrough in something for her. Such a shame spending all these years waiting for death after losing her babies. I sure hope Texas has to pay her big if and when she is set free! She will certainly deserve it and I hope she won't give that old man she had a dime!!! lol Sorry, I really get into these stories!


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Nell Rose 16 months ago from England

Hi Jackie, I read this and then sat and watched the whole of the video! it was fascinating! to start with I believed she did it, but now I am totally convinced it was her husband! he already admitted to hiring a thug to steal stuff for insurance purposes, thats what happened, he came in, didn't really know that she was going to be downstairs, panicked and killed them! I now need to know what happens! lol! great hub! nell


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thanks! At first I thought she did too, Nell. On the news they made her look like a no good mother playing over her murdered kids graves just interested in her own life and it took seeing her in tears and saying she did not kill her kids and I felt it; I knew she was not lying. I heard her husband talk about his kids dead and there was no love or emotion in him! I think he is behind it for sure and I read at Facebook I think it was his other son is seriously ill and he is not helping him out; dunno if that is true though, haven't researched it.

This guy that died they called Arkansas I believe did it and if they look for the other guy maybe with him who is still alive in prison maybe they can finally get the truth. I hope so....


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aviannovice 16 months ago from Stillwater, OK

I don't know how, but I missed this whole thing. Even though I don't have a TV, I would have heard about it via social media. Wouldn't I?


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Jackie Lynnley 16 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Well it happened almost 20 years ago Deb, so you might not have and they jumped right into her trial and threw her in prison so fast it would make your head swim. Many talk about how crazy she acted during all this to make her sound guilty but who wouldn't and if she was crazy then that should have been a different story altogether, huh?


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pstraubie48 15 months ago from sunny Florida

What a web of deceit and misleading information. I have now got to find a copy of these and read more.

Excellent review, Jackie.

I am not familiar with this case so will read more about it with interest. this kind of things happens too often and the harsh reality is that it could happen to any of us.

Angels are headed your way this morning ps


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Jackie Lynnley 15 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thank ps; it is a horrible thing, I think I will put up a picture of her defense bruising they called self inflicted. I do hope she gets some time on the outside before this world is done for her.

Angels back to ya; thanks so much.


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PegCole17 13 months ago from Dallas, Texas

It was great to read your review of this book about Darlie Routier. For many years I've wondered if the truth would ever come out. I remember this case vividly and the publicity about the silly string incident. So many people convicted her on that one set of actions and the video at the gravesite was played over and again on the local news. The media made her out to be a criminal before her trial began and the investigation was bungled right from the start.

I knew her mother and actually met Darlie once when the oldest of the two boys was just an infant. Her mother and I were at one time close friends. It makes me sad every time I think of her daughter sitting in that jail cell.


rich 13 months ago

The law in Texas doesn't allow new trial for bad court transcripts...read her appeal...her current lawyer doesn't believe new testing by federal court will be enough to exonerate her...it can help her get a new trial....but fact remains knife is from her kitchen..boys blood on back of her night shirt...why was sleeping with no panties on? Near her sons?jurors did see pictures of her in hospital...i agree she couldn't have placed sock in alley ..then came back in..im with public defender he ex might have been involved some how..she had nothn to gain by murdering her boys..if she was unhappy raising kids ...she woulda killed Drake too..boys life insurance barely paid for funeral...i have lots of questions still..


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Jackie Lynnley 13 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Thanks for stopping by rich. I have read lately that Darlie and Darin questioned why she had no panties on when she had earlier.

No matter what happened that night I will never believe Darlie cut her own throat to get by with killing her sons. I have also read that doing something like that would be near impossible to do but say she did and she did kill her sons, (which I do not believe) are we looking at a sane person? I don't think so and if they did think she did it even they would have to have questioned her sanity.

I know she was acting really crazy and on drugs for her nerves and other things and I personally thing Darin used this to help make it look like she did it because if he didn't he knows who did. That is the real shame of it all. I think he is one weird person, with no heart or feelings for anyone.


Magpie 12 months ago

The Silly String video was not filmed illegally. It was film by a news team that was invited to film the "birthday party" by Darlie and her family.


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Here you go Magpie and this reporter who at first thought she was guilty as I did over this video has since changed her mind too. https://youtu.be/0WTBKmdRKAU


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fpherj48 12 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Well, here I am again. This is one case that will not allow me to rest until more is done. Do you know if the Innocence Project has been involved at all? I've read so much, I can't remember every detail.

I'm very curious as to why the husband is suspicious. I haven't paid much attention to him and what I have seen, he seems to be pulling for Darlie. You never know about some people though. He could be one hell of an actor.

It is entirely beyond me how any mother OR father could brutally murder their own babies. I couldn't wrap my brain around that no matter what. Neither of them ever gave an indication of being such horrendous, morally bankrupt individuals.

As for the panties mentioned. Why is it so difficult to realize they were probably ripped off her by the killer? Too many people will grasp at straws and nonsense when they are rigid in their belief of guilt. It is realizing someone is innocent and fighting for them that is the hard thing to do.

I don't know how Darlie finds the strength to go on living. To lose your children to a brutal murderer and then to be found guilty of doing it is more than anyone can bear.


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Paula, I put a reply here; don't know where it went!

No I don't know about that (IP) although it does ring a bell I just can't say. I am suspicious of Darin because of the huge policy he had on Darlie and after her conviction they took his baby so I wonder what they know today but can't say for how they railroaded Darlie. Have you heard him on video talk about his sons laying dead. No love or remorse there. On the other hand I can feel Darlie's love for her sons.

Also in this book they talk about a chemical that could have been used on Darlie why she remembered so little and it is used in shops like Darin had and car shops I think they said. So they were saying too maybe she could have been assaulted and you would think she would remember that but with all the beating she took and a sliced throat on top of two dead babies it is very possible she wouldn't know. Then she was on drugs and if Darin was guilty in anyway he could have help very much to make her look bad and gave her more meds or pushed them causing her to act really wacky.

I am really wanting to know if they are ever going to talk to the other guy alive in prison they suspect of being there that night and the truck they stole was white like one Darlie reported seeing that evening.

They are divorced and I think he is remarried and I saw something about he built a million dollar house while his son has cancer and whoever it was I read said he is not helping him out much but of course that may not be true.


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fpherj48 12 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

OMG, Jackie....what a mistake I made coming back to this hub! LOL....I spent a good part of my day going over numerous articles and videos....my head is pounding. I tried to research what if any involvement there was from The Innocence Project...to no avail.

I read that they divorced. I did NOT know he remarried and I certainly didn't know that Drake has cancer. How incredibly sad!

You know what? I'm going to have to try to put this case out of my head for a while. When I get too wrapped up in things like this, I'm like an obsessed whirlwind! I feel like 2 people are in my head pulling in opposite directions!

Oh well.....I know I'll be back if I find anything at all that is interesting!! LOL


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Please do let me know anything you may find out Paula. It is frustrating because there is never any news of what is going on.

I think it was at Facebook I read Darin had a million dollar house built so apparently (if true) none of this has hurt him.

I think of Darlie quite often. She had money and was probably spoiled before all this happened but I am sure she has had to grow up fast in prison and it just seems so awful because if she did kill her sons (which I do not believe) it would had to have been temporary insanity which would never have given her death row.


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fpherj48 12 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

She will be there 20 years in 2016!! I cannot believe it. The only thing that sways me away from thinking Darin had any involvement is......could Darlie spend 20 years behind bars if she knew anything at all that could hurt Darin? Never! Especially with him divorcing her and living the good life. She'd have blown him in long ago. the other very strong point for me is that EVEN if he may have wanted her gone....he would not have wanted his babies hurt. The kids were placed with his parents for a lot of reasons. I'm glad they were. If kids can't be with their parents, the next best people are Grandma and grandpa.! It's very emotional to think they would be 25 and 26 years old now....:(


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I don't think she did know he had anything to do with it. From the book it sounds like she may be suspecting it now but I have never heard any love in his voice for his sons...any of them. What law can take a baby from a man guilty of nothing? I don't care if it was given to his parents. There is a big clue here.


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fpherj48 12 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

OH Jackie! You don't know what you're doing! Now I'll transform into Dick Tracy until I dig up more info! All these years...that's what really gets me. OK...that's it. I'll stop bothering you. Every time I do, you give me something MORE to drive me nuts!! LOL!!


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I have been on this for years Paula; it is like a bottomless pit. Someone somewhere has the answer but will it ever be uncovered in this lifetime? I hope so! This book did give me an ounce of hope at least.

You are no bother to me! lol


Magpie 12 months ago

Thank you,for the link, but it doesn't really address the issue, which is that the silly strong video was not illegal and not filmed by the police.


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

https://youtu.be/0WTBKmdRKAU

Yes, it was hidden and by the Rowlett police. Any search will tell you that and that is why the officers pled the 5th. They showed the jury the only part they wanted them to see; none of the mourning and crying.


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Jackie Lynnley 12 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Oops sorry, here is another, but there are plenty more to prove this a fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie_Routier


Brysanutt 8 months ago

Well I am just seeing this and I got as far as the first paragraph when the misinformation stopped me there so Ill go one by one

I respectfully support the just conviction of Darlie Lynn Routier,and aggressively demand the voice of Devon and Damon Routier be heard....

":We only saw what the prosecution wanted us to see.:(Much like the biased press of today.)'

Starting right there you are putting out the wrong information, Greg Davis supported the showing of the tape that Jimmy Patterson recorded.It was Doug Mulder who felt it would hold no weight and did not put it in.

To this day family and supporters of this cold Blooded killer claim that that surveillance shows Darlie falling to the ground Grieving crying, to this day NONE of us have seen any of that

I will keep reading,you do write well but facts are facts and lets stick with the facts Maam.


Brysanutt 8 months ago

Reading further on ( you have great writing skills) I found this.

"Kathy tells us how Dana, Darlie's younger sister has had a lifetime now of guilt being the one to bring the silly string and possibly causing the prosecution to have a ploy to convince not only the jury this made Darlie guilty but perhaps the general public."

Sure Dana brought the silly string,but she didn't pull the trigger.Fact is the general public saw that video on KXAS Channel 5 and immediatly began to call into the DAs office and demand her arrest,( this is the reason that the defense filed a motion to change venue) Fact is guess who brought the NEWS Channel there??Darlie kee and Family.but on a condition that the netwrok pay travel and hotel expenses for Darlies family to fly in from Altoona Pa to be there.Greed brought the News there,looking for financial gain within 8 days fo the murders ( the graves were still fresh)

Dana has more guilt about leaving that window open that night,

I wonder why Dana was never called to the stand, after all she was there that night,could it be that they didnt feel she could hold up well when asked what Darlies state of mind was that night?Leeza asked Dana that very question on her show,her response was to look down at the ground and begin crying she never answered she had to be removed from the stage.


Brysanutt 8 months ago

"Several friends saw the sores in Darlie’s mouth and fed her ice to help the pain she is having even being half out of it. She was also heavily medicated the day of the silly string and suffering from dry mouth and was why she was acting loopy and smacking gum someone had given her for dry mouth her friends claim.

Darlies friends never testified to that.and lets talk about that Xanax she was on.She first asked for a Xanax at the hospital when she learned the police were there and would like to talk to her.

So Darlie was acting loopy and silly because she was highly medicated and thats why she was so Happy at the silly string party Correct?

Well the memorial service was just an hour before that silly string party, how can you have her falling out with grief crying balling her eyes out just an hour before?Wouldnt the drug have her acting that way then as well? Family claims she wasnt....but we never saw it.. Darlie kee has the full surveillance tape shes never shown it


Brysanutt 8 months ago

"If Darlie threw the sock in the alley as a prop to make herself look innocent then why does she never mention it"

She did mention it she told police the intruder went out the garage window


Brysanutt 8 months ago

You posted misinformation about Barb Davis

Drug were found in her home and she was convicted and Troy pulled a gun out on the police so they shot him case closed


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Brysa.....Glad to hear from another person (you sound well-informed). I would be grateful to hear the opinions & various speculations by anyone who has followed this tragedy and/or actually KNOWS the people involved.

Such a deeply moving and troubling case. I just have to confess that the strength & instincts of the mother in me, fights tooth & nail against allowing me to believe Darlie could do such a horrendous, evil thing to those PRECIOUS babies....and for what??

If you are a Mom (or Dad) how do you get past those maternal or paternal overwhelming attachments in order to accept that Darlie is guilty?

Thank you for this additional info. I think Jackie will be glad to see someone has commented.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Yes Bry, I have done speculating...just exactly how you do. I saw that silly string and had Darlie guilty too, believe me, but then I took a closer look. Seems everyone against Darlie wants to talk about her drugging up but you want to play it down. (Some suggest that is how she killed her sons being out of it, but that would not make the verdict right would it?) Much less than she got.

I think it was a proven fact she was on meds already for postpartum depression wasn't it? Why does no one look at that or discuss it or think it could answer for much of the way Darlie acted and if it made her kill her babies then she was still tried wrong, wasn't she? Now add more medication to that and the fact that her lawyer at first was her prosecutor wasn't he? Wasn't he also her husbands lawyer which is absolutely bad for Darlie.

You are right, her lawyer should have been the one to do a lot of things yet he did not. This was a perfectly normal and good mother and I do not believe she killed her babies and did all the things they said she did and it has been proven she could not have but I guess that did not come up in the trial either but it does not mean it isn't true and I will always say if she did kill them she should have been tried differently. Anyone should be able to see that and since you seem to have so many answers how about telling me how (and why) the police took Darin's baby from him after Darlie was in prison? How do they take an innocent man's baby?


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Paula please listen to tapes of Darlie talking about her babies and then listen to Darin talk about their dead bodies and air blowing out their lungs and I almost expect him to smile any minute (if he didn't) and was so repulsed I cannot stand to look at him. Darlie loved her babies and I don't think Darin is capable of love.

The cops convicted Darlie telling about her going to a strip club and making her look like a tramp which is what Darin wanted her to look like and they were fighting over that very thing that weekend (her trying to tell him she could not dress ways he wanted her to) and she had threaten him with divorce.

Finally, where was the reason? Isn't it almost always money? Who had insurance that would benefit someone? It wasn't Darin.

Why would Darlie murder her babies? You know she had to have been out of her mind if she did and therefore not tried accordingly. But I do not believe she did.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

nope. no reasonable doubt. end of story.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

It, in my opinion, would take a one track mind to not have doubt.


JezMyOpinion 8 months ago

Jackie, Darlie herself called the press to go to the grave. The police were filming it also. But I have tried very hard to find the "mourning" video before the dance party video and it just doesn't exist. There is a 30 second video of some people behind some bushes but that doesn't show anyone mourning. I find that very odd that that "mourning" video is often discussed and used as proof but it can't be found.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Jez, that is in the video above and what the police took hidden which is what the two policemen took the fifth for because it was illegal but all that was just brushed aside by Darlie's lawyer. There is no doubt more somewhere. If I get time I will search for it later today and add it here but that could be all there is released to the public.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

the key word is "reasonable" - and a lot of this "story" above is not factual FYI


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Well please tell us your facts you can prove without a doubt. Any fool knows she did not make all those wounds on herself and that is enough for me all by itself.

There is also proof the nurses wrote one thing down in the hospital and then testified to another. Why aren't they behind bars. The police had their mind made up and they made it happen and today I am sure they know she did not do it but look how much they have already cost their state convicting innocent people. That is a fact. Look it up if you care for the truth.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Damn...I wrote another comment a day or 2 ago....now I have to assume I left w/o posting! I hate it when I do that!

I don't recall every word, but I do remember asking sillystrings how he/she could make such a short, emphatically cut & dry statement & "end of story!" with such blind certainty?

For many, it's clearly NOT the end of this story. Some of these remarks are only serving to push me to investigate further. There are blatant LIES by witnesses & law enforcement that have been intentionally obstructed. Huge red flag.

My conscience does not allow me to be so cool & callous about a probable innocent woman being utterly steamrolled. I too find it extremely incredible anyone could inflict such life-threatening injuries to one's self.....just not feasible.

If you have such REASONABLE proof.....it's vital you provide it WITH authentic validation. Thank you. Whether I agree or not, I'm open to all input.


Brysanutt 8 months ago


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Believe me Paula I would not delete anyone's comment unless it was something I truly believe HP would want deleted or might get my hub delete so you must have failed somehow to get it in. I won't say which ones but I have comments on hubs now I would love to delete but I try to just ignore what I just would not reply to. Usually that is visitors not brave enough to have a face, lol.

So glad you agree on the wounds. In one breath they are saying how in love with herself she is and then to suggest she would tear herself up like that in order to get by with killing her babies for no reason on earth, the whole thing should have been turned over years ago!


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie..I didn't think for a moment that you'd have deleted my post. I can't tell you how many times I have left w/o posting!

So~~ I just spent over an hour viewing the video of the link posted by Bry. I heard a lengthy phone conversation between Darin's Mom & some man whose name I either didn't see or hear. I will admit it is extremely interesting but I definitely do NOT see this conversation as the alleged "proof" of Darlie's guilt!! Yet, I listened to the same conversation as those who seem to think otherwise. This actually blows my mind.

If anything....the man in this video who was once a supporter of Darlie's but now thinks she's guilty, made a stunning statement. He admitted to going into the alleyway where the bloody sock had been found, placing a sock on the back of his car (as the killer may have done) and that each time he moved his car, the sock FELL EXACTLY WHERE THE SOCK HAD BEEN FOUND!! Well then, what is he saying?

Jackie...What I wouldn't give for something to come of this in Darlie's favor. I'm convinced one day it will even if it is many years from now (after it's too late for Darlie, sadly) This would be easier if only I could be 100% convinced in her guilt. I wonder if so many people have not taken this frame of mind simply in order to STOP obsessing over it....falsely putting it out of their minds.

I'm well aware there are many cases like Darlie's of innocent people behind bars, but we cannot fight the world. This particular case stays with me like a curse! Until the next time......Paula


JezMyOpinion 8 months ago

Afternoon Jackie.

I still don't see her mourning. I see her with her head up against Danas back but it looks like she's just hiding her face. Have you hears Bryanutts youtube video "Darlies Promise" ? It gives me the impression that he asked her WTF did you do when he came downstairs. Her response and the anger is surprising to me as she's on w/ 911, her sons are dead and dying, she's saying there's nothing touched (how would she know). I can't imagine staying on the phone for over 5 full minutes instead of asking for help and running to save my boys. Interesting phone call. I just cannot ignore all of the physical evidence along with Darlies changing her stories, lack of evidence of an intruder. That fingerprint is smudged and Darlie was not ruled out as it is the size of a child or woman. I've been studying this case from the beginning and really wish I could find her not guilty but I just simply cannot. The latest DNA didn't help her. And the transcripts were completely redone afterward by audio recordings so they are absolutely spot on. One last thing, what is your opinion on the matter that got her laughed at in open court - her letters from jail saying she knew who did it and it would all come out soon. Please do listen to that youtube video and let me know what you think about it. Thanks for the forum.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I know Paula, people have had me look at this and listen to that and I admit Darlie did and said some very damning things but I honestly think she was not in healthy mental condition and why would she be if all this happened to her and bottom line, even if she did do it (I will never believe that because of her wounds) she had to have went berserk to do such a thing for no reason on earth and should have been tried that way.

If you wanted to look into anything I think it is possible the answer lies with those two prisoners in this book; but the one who seemed to be berserk over killing kids is dead. So why do they not hunt down the other and get something out of him? It could be the only way we ever get an answer and it could still involve Darin as the hiring man.

I am very bad for commenting and then just leaving without posting!


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Jez, if you mean the video above that Bry left then yes I have seen it and I am not impressed. People like him scare me much more than Darlie ever would with all her daggers and bruising, slicing, pushing necklace in wound the perfect degree not to die and stabbing her kids, tearing screens, smearing blood and running races to make it all look just right. He is a man obsessed. Who cannot see that?


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

JezMyO......I must admit that her words & even more, her tone of voice as she is on the 911 call is disturbing. It's the sound of an unnecessarily defensive woman. One would have to be curious. How can she even think or speak under the circumstances?

I began TRYING to the listen to the call with "Barbara Jovell" (Basia), friend of darlie & Darin's but I wound up being highly annoyed at the poor connection coupled with her accent causing me to miss every other word of her discussion. Frustrating!!

I also have serious issue with the talk of whatever meds and/or illegal drugs Darlie is said to have been using. WHAT exactly was she taking & how is anyone sure of this? Was a blood profile for Darlie done on the night of the murder? I'm assuming there was since she was hospitalized. If so, what substances did they find?

Some of the meds & drugs mentioned, when combined can cause very serious behavior problems and personality abnormalities. All of this is so vital and I hope taken into full consideration during her trial.

I have finally made the connection here.....LOL (took me a while) I see now that "Brysanutt" IS the young man IN the video on the phone with Darlie's mother-in-law and Basia.

I need a break and a rest. I'll be back in a few days.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Oops.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

I see you still don't understand the legal standard regarding reasonable doubt. Don't worry, the jurors did and the Court does. Based on the evidence, she was CORRECTLY found guilty.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

there's nothing in this article, and nothing Darlie's supporters have that proves any miscarriage of justice, and nothing that shows anything new that would warrant her having a new trial.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Sillystrings.....I know full-well what reasonable doubt is. I'm very knowledgeable in the Justice system & court procedures. I don't have all the details of this case and intend to study it.

You can tell me all you want how 100% guilty Darlie is, how perfect the Jury was, and whatever your bias & opinions are in terms of this case. I will still continue to investigate all on my own.

It's my time and my energy. Thanks for your input. You most assuredly come across as a certified follower of mob mentality. I have always steered clear of that. Appreciate your right to think however you do.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

never been any part of "mob" mentality. never said the jury was perfect; they never are. I have no bias in terms of this case, just a real evaluation of not only the evidence but of the hyperbole perpetrated by the murderer's supporters.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Again, I am presently not privy to all of that. When this case was brand new, I had a serious interest & absorbed as much as possible. The news was daily & appeared everywhere. Unfortunately as it happened, I was steered away from this particular case for quite some time.

Became re-familiarized & gained a renewed interest. By this time the trial was over, Darlie was found guilty and locked up. I basically began from square one to sort out this egregious tragedy.

Understand, I had not been aware of any "drug" involvement whatsoever until more recently. IMHO, this is a huge factor in this entire picture. Thus I am looking to discover the facts of this drug involvement.

It seems clear to me that Darlie will continue to be denied a new trial. My search is somewhat selfish in motive. My history is in Behavior Analysis. As a writer, my continuing education interests call for me to always seek answers with reason. At it's very basic level, a maternal mind set is incapable of the mere thought of harming one's own child. How then or Why, if you prefer, does a mother go over, above & beyond that basic level to the opposite extreme? Until I am able to find THAT answer for this specific case and this particular mother, I'll continue to research.

I trust you can appreciate my quest. Again, thank you.


Brysanutt 8 months ago

Jackie thanks for commenting to me, most supporters with hubs like these would just delete my posts some fear the truth. Im sorry to say that there is just so much misinformation here regarding the case that it would to an eternity to correct it with facts.You do write very well and I know you are going on what you hear.It would take me forever to go through this.I actaulyhad a well written post for you but some how my computer updated and screwed it up.I used to support Darlie vigorously , I got to know the family quite well..but i started to see them deciving people and it caused me to dig deep.I went straight to the source.I Interviewed family. jurors, the housekeeper I got to know Cron and David Nabors..I went to the home and was able to do a walk through because it was up for sale at the time. you can follow my you tube series on this case under Darlies Promise see my name under that video and go from there.

"Yes Bry, I have done speculating...just exactly how you do. I saw that silly string and had Darlie guilty too"

Thats incorrect..I do not speculate I look for the facts from the sources,The Silly string did not have me thinking she was guilty I started as a supporter. She was not on any drugs before the murders and was never diagnosed with Post Partum. I downplay the medicne because I dont feel the medicine was what was making her act the way she was at the ss party..I think she was basking in the media spotlight and relived if you ask me...Family says OH well she was HIGH or She was on alot of drugs but thats incorrect..she was on .25 Xanax

"Did prosecutors use breast implants and a male stripper to get the death penalty for Darlie? (They spent repeated times putting Darlie down as a woman to the jury as if that equaled murderer. Did it to the jury?)"

No that doesnt equal murder at all you are right however she had family up on the stand claiming she was this wonderful mother who was a room mother for her school and loved every child in the neighborhood when the fact is she wasnt snow white.. On Mothers day she sent Devon and Damon to stay with her stepfather Dennis Stahl who she claims molested her while she went to a male strip club with her freinds..definatly NOT June Cleaver

If you want to hear more about her mother hood lets here from her maid of honor and housekeeper Basia

https://youtu.be/HISuxc7jtGs

". Sandy Aitken, Darin’s aunt noted the judge went to sleep 16 times during the trial and was asleep seriously

You know that courtroom was packed to the hilt and no one else but a family member noticed that Tolle was sleeping? Funny she said that..because Tolle had just chastised her in open court for taking written notes, he felt she was writing the notes then passing them along to other family members who weren't allowed in the courtroom because they were up to testify

"It does seem clear in this reading that the jury will only see what the prosecution wants them to see. It is undeniable that the defense put little if any effort in this trial and objected to very little.

So it is very easy to see how a jury could be persuaded. So very much they do not see of what they should have and on one important issue they are even lied to.

Yet this does not call for a new trial? Let's see what you think from the information in this book.:

There is no evidence of prosecutorial misconduct in this case and Darlie has never claimed that in fact she signed a document that stated she knew the evidence against her was sufficient for conviction, she never claimed ineffective counsel ( even though Mulder totally sucked at defending her)

"8. All the evidence has been kept in brown grocery bags since 1996; moved around and back and forth when it should have been vacuum sealed! (You can see them in video below.)

Brown paper bags are protocol for evidence collection vacuum sealing is not.Fun fact her lawyer Mosty actually contaminated the butcher knife by cutting himself while showing it to the jury

Theres so much here that I could show you

I will eventually get to all of it

Thanks for your time I will be back and until then take a look at STOP the Lies In the darlie Routier case on facebook

Take it from a man who was accused of this crime...By Darlie kee herself

They will blame any one and any thing but Darlie

Kathy Cruz is a family freind to Darlie and so is Barbara Davis


lindaf3 8 months ago

Have you guys by the way ever realized what this line from the 911 call could also mean: ""...Somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin! There's nothing touched""

Looks like she pointed out towards Darin, or that she was blaming him!! For what?? For a break in mayby? Mayby thats why she sounded so pissy?? The ""there's nothing touched'' line looks like there should have been touched some stuff. Looks like she blames Darin for something. Why would she say this?? Does not make sense. She could have say:"" Somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin! I was sleeping!"" Something like that.. ..my conclusion of Darlie saying: ""there's nothing touched"" means that she knew of a break in/insurance scam or something like that. In that situation there was no need to explain Darin that there was nothing touched. That line bothers me from day one. He knows more, she knows more.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

(Note: Jackie, I posted another lengthy comment late last night. It's not here today but my account activity states that it is waiting "approval." so I'm thinking there may be an issue with you receiving my posts? I don't know. Maybe you can check to see if you missed it somehow.)

I'm grateful that this Bry is communicating so much here. This person has certainly gotten close to this entire case and I'm very glued to what he has to say. Not that I do not weigh it all and continue to question but he's done far more than simply guess or assume. To STILL be explaining after all these years, seriously reconfirms for me that so many people have been unable to resolve Darlie's guilt in their minds. I admit to being one of them.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Paula, I have this set for any comment to be posted but your one above I suppose you are speaking of had spam choice on it I had to take out and no idea why, hasn't come up on others bringing in links so makes no sense. Well hopefully it is the one you mean and there it is. I checked here and my settings are all fine as I put them but I will go to the main source and make sure it is good there too.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Bry....I need to repeat that the videos in which you speak to Basia are terribly difficult to fully understand. Between being a poorly connected phone call and her accent, it is a serious strain to get a lot of what she says. It was easier for you because you are actually ON THE PHONE with Basia speaking into your ear. What would be great would be a printed script of the conversations between you & Basia that can be READ by the public. In fact, if someone was wise enough to create such a script, pls tell me where it can be found.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Good God!!! Is there something terribly toxic in the air or water in TEXAS??

Here we are, discussing this 20 year old case of a mother convicted for the murder of her two precious little boys & WHAT's in the news today??

A mother in Texas has just been arrested as a suspect in the murder of her 2 darling daughters ages 5 & 1yr.....The estranged wife of a Ukranian concert pianist was discovered in a state of distress when this Dad went to pick up his daughters at the scheduled time. He then found the girls, both dead in their beds.....

How tragic~~just so so hard to comprehend......................


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Have you guys by the way ever realized what this line from the 911 call could also mean: ""...Somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin! There's nothing touched""

Looks like she pointed out towards Darin, or that she was blaming him!! For what?? For a break in mayby? Mayby thats why she sounded so pissy?? The ""there's nothing touched'' line looks like there should have been touched some stuff. Looks like she blames Darin for something. Why would she say this?? Does not make sense. She could have say:"" Somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin! I was sleeping!"" Something like that.. ..my conclusion of Darlie saying: ""there's nothing touched"" means that she knew of a break in/insurance scam or something like that. In that situation there was no need to explain Darin that there was nothing touched. That line bothers me from day one. He knows more, she knows more.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

linda....I believe your comment has been posted twice. I'm sure Jackie will catch that and delete one of them

You have an excellent point. Her words and tone could actually be construed as making a serious point to Darin that this was NOT a terrible planned burglary gone egregiously wrong!

The only flaw in that would be that she or Darin would have suggested this as an explanation, I would hope. The jury had to take close note to her tone of voice & attitude. Darlie came up looking very "bad" once too many times.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I am strapped for time right now but I will get into these tapes and listen again as soon as I can but I recall hearing Darin say, "They took...." and he doesn't finish the sentence making me wonder if there was something they were suppose to take and perhaps with all that happened the intruders really not intending to happen they fled without taking anything.

It really is a new idea to think maybe Darin told Darlie about the supposed break in to get insurance and it went all wrong, or perhaps Darin added having his wife killed and Darlie does not know that and is confused and not knowing what to say because she is involved but only in the break-in part. ??? Even if Darlie was somehow involved or had prior knowledge I still do not believe she put those wounds all over herself and did all the dozen things she would have had to have done in minutes. Or hurt her boys...I just don't even though I at first did. After hearing her talk about them and according to all who knew her, she loved her boys and had nothing to gain killing them as these other mother murderers did.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Personally Jackie...I simply cannot imagine taking a butcher knife to my own throat and slicing so incredibly DEEP near the carotid!! That requires some enormous strength and CRAZINESS!


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

In combination with that line ""There is nothing touched"" and the Jewelry stalled out on that kitchencounter it looks to me that Darin was susprised it was still laying there. Before Darlie reacts so pissy he must have say something like: ""how is this possible? or what happened, what went wrong"" Something like that.. Then Darlie says: ""Somebody who did it intentionally walked in here and did it Darin! There's nothing touched""!! This means to me that lots of the things Darlie said during that 911 call were wrongful Interpreted.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

It does Paula take a real craziness, and I am not for Darlie because I love her, I think she was spoiled and maybe a little self centered but she loved her looks, who doesn't know that? She would not do this to herself. Look at all the nicks in her flesh and slices and bruising. That slice on the neck? What sane person could do that?

Maybe somehow she was enough involved in a break in she thinks she can't tell the truth I don't know but still she had no reason to touch those kids either and I don't believe she did. Her own mother-in-law thinks she could never do it. A mother-in-law! You know what she must have secretly thought of Darlie prissing around and being sexy for Darin yet she knows Darlie is a good mother.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

Darlie obviously has a mental disorder. that's how someone can do that; she's not normal. She had a reason to kill the children; the reason is ridiculous and stupid and even "insane" but it's her reason. There is quite often not a good reason to kill, yet people do it anyway.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Rather than thinking this through and coming to a better understanding, I'm so much more conflicted. I HAVE to stop thinking from my own mind and love as a mother perhaps~~and try thinking like a crazed and desperate person. Darin is like an enigma to me. I have no idea where that man is coming from or where he fits in,

Besides, he's not the one who;s been locked away fro 20 years.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie.....Because I think you're right about her being spoiled and self-centered, I believe she'd have blown Darin in long ago had it been part of a break-in he plotted! I'm getting dizzy by revisiting this insane case again. All I want to accomplish in my own mind is going such an incredible mental distance to believe Darlie could do this horribly egregious thing to her precious, beautiful boys.

I'm coming to the conclusion that it's so totally infeasible to me, I'll never accept she could have brought herself to do it. I never thought I could be so fixated in one spot. These were HER BABIES!


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

after all I believe Darin is the key in this horrible story. There was something going on. I will never believe that he heard a wineglass break while beeing upstairs in that huge mansion. He told that over and over again. The best evidence of Darlie telling the truth is her nightshirt. You can clearly see, how the blood flowed around the collar(leftside) towards the back of the shirt!!! On the backside you can see how the bloodtrail ended by a few long drops. This is only possible when Darlie was laying down.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

linda, I would be so relieved to think as you do. I appreciate you explaining the blood trail on her nightshirt.....but tell me PLEASE... How was something so evident, missed by investigators? Do you know, was this brought up by defense? If not, RIGHT THERE is valid reason for insignificant counsel and a mistrial! Oh, this case will do me in. No wonder I took such a long break from it!


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

With all these other cases (other than ones where the mothers didn't try to even hide the fact they murdered their babies) there is a another man who doesn't want children or a reason the mother needs to get rid of her children but that was not there for Darlie and surely she had common sense enough to know their burial money would not help her and if she were going along with a break-in plan it was not necessary. I really think the idea in this book that something was used on Darlie to knock her out could explain so much of how she was acting and confused and probably to this very day because she was probably asleep when they put this drug (chemical) over her face and maybe she started pushing them off or fighting them to cause all the wounds but finally the drug knocks her out and with her throat slashed and all the blood and maybe the boys waking or screaming (which surely they did and Darin did not hear them but he heard a glass break!) they kill the boys and Darlie comes around when one of her sons comes to her and wakes her to all hell and she does run to the phone. Wouldn't she make sure her boys were dead if she wanted them dead? Also one son is stabbed through his body all the way to the floor, does that sound like a woman stabbing someone? There really are too many questions to ever have it without a reasonable doubt.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

blood on the nightshirt in no ways proves her innocent. such silliness.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Silliness???? Blood DNA, evidence, blood patterns, trails and impressions is a HUGE part of crime scene investigations!! WHAT on earth do you mean by your irresponsible remark of "such silliness??"

Excuse me, but perhaps YOU are SILLY!


Sillystrings 8 months ago

it means it DOES NOT PROVE HER INNOCENCE.


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Blood AROUND the collar of her nightshirt is a proof she was laying down while her troat was cut. In fact laying on her left side, as she always claimed!Go check the pictures again... The blood clearly runned over towards the backside of that shirt. This is not possible while standing.


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

https://spotlightonlaw2.files.wordpress.com/2016/0... This shows the map of their living room . How is it possible that Darin went straight over to Devon who was laying on the other side of that room while he must have seen his son Damon first when he runned downstairs?? He pratically jumped over him..? This is another thing that doesnt get into my mind...


Sillystrings 8 months ago

everal cast-off stains in Devon's blood were found on the front and the right shoulder of Darlie's nightshirt.

Several cast-off stains of Damon's blood were found on the back of Darlie's nightshirt. Damon's cast-off blood was found on top of Darlie's blood, as well.

No dilution of the dna and no water was indicted on the night shirt.

Cast-off blood as the word implies is cast-off the murder weapon as it is in motion. It will have tails which point to the source of the blood. The tails on Darlie's shirt pointed upward towards the source of the blood.

You cannot transfer cast-off blood stains, the blood seeps into the weave of the article it stains. A transfer stain sits on the top of the article and does not penetrate.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

"Damon's cast off blood was found ON TOP of Darlie's blood."......?????are you trying to say she stabbed Damon AFTER she slit her own throat???? Really?


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

This sort of thing makes me believe someone tampered with evidence, really. She supposedly did everything after she stabbed herself and bruised up her arms and slit her own throat with the necklace placed just right so she wouldn't die. It is all so ridiculous!

Oh and her blood was not on the sock she ran down the alley to throw down so how does that work into her bleeding profusely?


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

The way the boys died, there is very very little amount of their blood on Darlies shirt.. it is only one or two spots, not enough of a pattern to call it cast off.


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Yes Jackie this case is really insane. Darlie did it all..in a few minutes..without making one single noise she killed those precious boys, staged the complete scene... and the first thing her husband hears is this light sound of hearing a glass breaking..


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

I have decided to search for the entire court transcript!...........Soon as I get rid of this pounding head ache! People swear up & down she's 100% GUILTY....then they make a comment in favor of her possible innocence!! Just like Bryan and his test run with the sock in the alley!!


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

It really looks like her weird actions at this time made her look guilty caused by what she had been through or medicine maybe and maybe helped along by a husband who intended her dead and was sure not going to face the music for that so he could be acting like he is on her side saying things to make her crazier added to the pills she is taking to help her get through and if he really was guilty of that only God knows what he may have done.

All I know linda and Paula please tell me how they take a man's son who is guilty of nothing? That is a very big question for me never answered.


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

right Jackie. Darin wasnt accused of anything, but he didnt get the custody of Drake. If ''they'' were that sure of his innocence he would have had his son . So someone must have had a ''bad'' feeling. The question is why. To Paula, Bryan is just mad because Darlie Kee accused him(wich is ridiculous) of the crime some time ago. Since then he is obsessed with Darlies guilt. In his group Justice for Devon and Damon are only a handful of members who claim she is 100% guilty. They always come with their facts, and attack others who dare to think different. Well and they create their own facts.. For example the bruises. First they go and say""The boys kicked their killermommy'' (but they also claim that her bruises didnt show up before days after she left the hospital...LOL) Okay well then Darin has beaten her up..or mayby she did it herself.. I am trying to look through it, I want to understand myself and I come to the conclusion that lots of things just do not add up.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Anyone with any medical sense and knowledge of the human body and injuries, KNOWS that bruises INCREASE in black & Blueness as the hours tick away.....Even just a red mark from an impact, doesn't become a horrid looking hematoma until hours later!


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Thats how I experienced it through the years (20) Paula. Since all those years I work as a nurse in an elderyhome. Old people fall all the time and sometimes bruises show up much much later.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I honestly think the cops come to realize they have gotten the wrong parent but there is no way they can say that afterward. Look at all the millions Texas has been out putting innocent people behind bars. So they have a little talk with him and that is why he does not fight it. Why else would he not?


Sillystrings 8 months ago

nope. she didn't "do everything" after she stabbed herself.

too bad she couldn't get her "story" straight.

Yes, we believe that her own 2 children were stabbed and she herself was attacked and stabbed and she didn't wake up. right. because she always wakes up when her children need her, right (according to her) LOL


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

I'm not even able to think that this tragedy occurred due to some crazy plot of Darin's or him hiring someone to burglarize the house.....I know he talked about that but if he knew it was going to happen that night~~wouldn't he have made sure that Darlie and the boys were NOT sleeping downstairs??

WHICH BTW...brings me to a HUGE question that bothers me terribly~~ They had a big, spacious home. There was absolutely NO reason whatsoever for Darlie and the boys to be sleeping downstairs (with the boys on the floor!) I'm sure they could have closed the door to the boy's bedroom if poor little Drake made that much noise! Darlie could have slept in another bedroom away from the master bedroom...also with the door closed!

Furthermore.....as a mother of 4.....by 7 months old, a baby should not still be in a crib in his parent's bedroom! That's unusual in itself. I have to say one more thing....Was Darlie some kind of a princess or something that she couldn't have her precious sleep disturbed in the middle of the night by a stirring baby? HELLO Mama....babies do wake their parents up and we need to deal with it.

She was a stay at home MOM.......Darrin was sleeping with Drake and he's the one who had to get up and go to work in the morning!

So MUCH makes ZERO sense to me.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Maybe because she was (and I believe this is a fact) on some type of medication for postpartum depression (and I believe I read she was on diet pills too? Don't seem like two meds you would want to mix? ) and maybe she was afraid she wouldn't wake for him is why he was in her room. So why leave the room? Maybe it was a weekend and Darin wasn't working, maybe he offered? It could be a dozen reasons. If it is covered maybe someone will tell us.

One thing I have noticed for a fact; many of the people against Darlie seem downright weird in their vengeance against her.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Yes they do seem overly zealous to keep her guilty & locked up. It looks like sillystring signed on to HP just to participate in this discussion. It would be very helpful if he/she explained how he/she knows so much and is so SURE. Is he/she related to someone or were they at the trial everyday? Some friend of Darin's?


Sillystrings 8 months ago

wow. some people are just deluded.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

We're not at all deluded. You maintain anonymity, do not offer any identity nor factual information as to how you seem to KNOW all there is to know about this complex case. If it's all your own speculation and rendition of what's available to the public, what makes you specail or any different than anyone else looking at this case?

Were you close to the families? Are you a detective? Did you attend court every single day during the trial? Are you one of the JURY? If not anything specific.....you're just another citizen stating your opinions like everyone else. PERHAPS YOU COULD BE THE DELUDED ONE. Either speak up with something substantial, STOP insulting people or get lost!!


Sillystrings 8 months ago

examples of deluded comments: "overly zealous to keep her guilty" "maybe it was a weekend" "downright weird in their vengeance" "the cops come to realize they have gotten the wrong parent" "saying things to make her crazier" "supposedly did everything after she stabbed herself" "blood . . . is proof she was laying down" "valid reason for mistrial"


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Silly please come with concrete facts and stop being so nasty. Having a different point of view does not mean that people are your enemy. I would love to see you to take a look into the Kay Mortenson case. Everything was crystal clear, the prosecutors had the best case. Kay his son and daughter in law killed the old man. This is what evidence and statements told them .There were NO doubts. The son and daughter in law always said there where 2 intruders,but evidence didnt show it. Till one day before the case went to trial...A woman came forward and told the police that one of the intruders was talking to a friend the other day.. The Defense and prosecutors were baffled..If this woman hasnt called in, Kay his son and daughter in law would have faced a lifetime in prison!!


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

linda....Since this "Sillystrings" ANONYMOUS interloper has no intention to inform us WHO he/she is nor HOW he/she is such an expert on each & every aspect of this case.....and is only immature & condescending enough to bash people who are delving into it all.....for all intents & purposes, anyone could suspect Sillystrings may either BE the real murderer OR know the murderer.

This would surely be a huge reason they want Darlie to REMAIN IN PRISON AND BE DENIED A NEW TRIAL.

I intend to simply ignore SILLY's posts...just rude & nasty.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

that is so funny fpherj48 (anonymous)!! LOL. the evidence doesn't lie; the real murderer is in jail, and her continuing to claim innocence in the face of all the evidence will be fruitless. "sillystrings may . . . be the real murderer or know the murderer. " that is so hilarious!!!! LOL

and other cases, where there were wrongful convictions, don't prove anything with respect to this case BTW. I thought Darlie was innocent when i first saw the case - then I reviewed the actual evidence.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

00:01:19 Darlie Routier ...somebody came here...they broke in...

00:03:27 911 Operator #1 ...ma'am...

00:05:11 Darlie Routier ...they just stabbed me and my children...

Please note that in a statement, order shows priority. This is especially evident in a 911 call as the first things reported are the most important. Here is the order:

1. Somebody came here

2. They broke in

3. They just stabbed me

4. and my children.

Please note that the most important priority for the caller is that police believe that somebody (singular, gender neutral) came to the caller's home. The investigator should wonder why the children being stabbed would not be first.

We also note that "somebody" being gender neutral may be an attempt to conceal identity.

Why is it important (a priority) that she first establishes that somebody "came" here? For someone to stab them, he would have to be there.

Note that second in her priority is that they (plural) broke in to the home. With bleeding children, why would it matter if they broke in or entered through an unlocked door? The priority is that someone "came" and that they broke in.

Unnecessary language: When language is used that it unnecessary, it is deemed "doubly" important to the analysis. From the subject's first statement to the operator, we find her priority is to make sure they believe someone "came" there, and broke into the home. This has, from the beginning, raised suspicion as to why this would be necessary for the subject, since it is utterly unnecessary language.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

I believe that someone from inside the house (Darlie) took a knife from the kitchen, cut the garage window screen from outside the house prior to the offense, and then replaced the knife in the kitchen block container. I further believe that Darlie Routier's stories to police are internally inconsistent and inconsistent with all of the physical evidence at the scene. I further believe that her repeated statements to the 911 dispatcher about her fingerprints on the knife, her lack of concern and attempts to help her dying son, and her lack of concern for her remaining infant child who was upstairs during the offense and whose condition was apparently unknown to Darlie during the call, are indicative of her guilt and inconsistent with her story that she had awakened after the violent assault on her two older sons and after she had been wounded. I further believe that her story, that she slept through the violent stabbings of her sons only a few feet away from her and through multiple cuts inflicted upon herself, is incredible.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Having been a member on our writing site for nearly 5 years......EVERYONE of my fellow-members knows who I am and knows me well. ANONYMOUS simply does not apply to me at all! However, YOU have signed on here with the sole intent to comment here. A very bold statement of your intent to make YOUR opinion known and further that YOU know exactly all the facts, statements, words, investigations......despite there being many who still feel conflicted and that Darlie is entitled to another trial.

Had you come on here in a serious, respectable and HELPFUL attitude, rather than making fun of us with your snide remarks and your immature snickering, I for one would have been grateful and given your words more thought. You came here to be a bully and throw your perceived weight around. Please leave the same way.

As a matter of fact, your "explanation" and piece by piece walk through Darlie's 911 call, actually DOES give me pause for somber contemplation. Too bad you could not have tried to approach us all in this manner from the start. Due to your crass strong-arming.....I really don't care what you know. I won't listen to someone who comes on like gang-busters and acts like an asshole.

I'll be contacting Bryan to hear the GUILTY side. At least he is respectful. Pathetic you had to be a jerk. You may have been helpful to me coming to terms with Darlie having killed her precious babies.


lindaf3 8 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

no proof Silly to say ""somebody came here"" at first making her guilty. We dont know how we would react in extreme situations. Everyone reacts different. It's very strange by the way that she didnt use her ''staging'' at the graveside dont you think.. The way you guys portrait Darlie she would at least show the world how much pain she is in..why didnt she show it? Play it? Why didnt Darin run to Damon in the first place?? By entering the living room he must have basically jumped over him!! No, he went to Devon much further away who was already dead!!! He made no attemp to check Damon who was still alive!! why was that? Officer Waddell is a joke by the way..he is heard a few minutes into the 911 call and the first thing he is telling Darlie: ""Lay down okay, just sit down"" He noticed her neckwound. And this same officer is telling later that she didnt help at all. huh? And the list goes on and on.


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I would like for Sillystrings and those like him/her go step by step as they do the 911 and tell us exactly what Darlie did. How she bruised herself and nicked herself up and cut her throat just right and on and on what all she did and how much time was allotted for that and the murder of her sons and cutting screen and running down the alley.

I think chances are and if it were me and innocent of all this I would probably believe a husband that said it happened like this or that and I heard the glass break and then you did this or that and with him maybe feeding her all that she knew, she might sound like a liar or a crazy person being questioned. Maybe she has no memory of that night really and who would be surprised at that? Maybe he talked to her before she called 911 and mentioned the things she talked about to make her look guilty and she may not even realize it to this day. Things like this do happen especially if a husband is covering their own butt and lost out on a fortune by her still being alive.

Also, what about the jeans of Darin's I have heard about that had had blood on them but were washed and stacked upstairs and no one ever checked that out? Is there anything to that?


Sillystrings 8 months ago

didn't join just to comment on this. also snide and immature mostly coming from you.

Thanks, though.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

"didn't join just to comment on this?? Oh , really? Is this why you chose the profile name "silly string?" Sure, OK. How foolish to try to LIE!

......If you find us snide & immature......GO elsewhere. Go on...GIT! YOU came barging in to our thread on OUR site. No one invited you nor have any of us found you interesting. Due to your rudeness & unimpressive mightier than thou attitude, the only request is that you stay away from us. Find another place to make your mud pies, child.


Sillystrings 8 months ago

never been rude.

yes, you are snide and immature.

Nope, still didn't joint just to comment on this. that's always been my nickname.


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fpherj48 8 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Good to know you didn't "joint" just to comment. There's your problem, ONE TOO MANY JOINTS. Not surprised your nickname has always been sillystring......Maybe when you grow up and become an adult, you can have a less childish nick name.

Jackie....all due respect to you my friend. I will not return here as long as this annoying, interfering & overbearing piece of garbage is allowed to trash your thread. I will resume my discussion elsewhere. Thanks so much. Peace, Paula


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Jackie Lynnley 8 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I assumed he was talking to me Paula and I think he was to begin with since it is first under my statement and I was just ignoring him. I have put up with much worse than him and I made sure none of comments had to be approved just for your sake so I can't now change it all back around again. I say just ignore him and I will delete him if he becomes worse. If he has anything useful to add I will let it in, otherwise I will delete it. Since he is a member all I can do is check on wait he is saying and I agree he has had his say more or less.


Magpie 7 months ago

Darlie was never diagnosed with postpartum depression and was not taking any sort of medication for it. She was taking a diet pill, called phen-fen, which is a member of the amphetamine family. It was the only drug found in her system on the night of the murders.


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I think I spoke of her crazy talk being after the murders when she was on nerve pills plus others. I don't remember the phen-fen other than it must have had some bad effects on people with them having to pay out millions to people and I know this is true personally knowing someone who collected around 1 million.


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fpherj48 7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Phen-fen was a seriously toxic & dangerous stimulant that as we know caused much havoc & eventually taken off the market, causing multiple law suits. It was terribly harmful to the heart, brain & entire nervous system. I hadn't heard it was in Darlie's sytem at the time of the tragedy. If this is accurate, it gives me cause for alarm.


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

True Paula and I even wonder if anyone knew what affect it could have had on her? It was an OTC drug so who knows how much she might have had of it? I did know someone personally that got around 1 million for its damage. Must have been bad.


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fpherj48 7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

LOL....Jackie, Only in America can we win a prize for being foolish, irresponsible & vain.

There was both a lethal Rx Phen-fen & a milder form OTC. It wasn't even on the market for long before it had to be pulled. Any form of "speed" can mess with the brain.

When all is said & done, little Darlie unfortunately gave the impression she was a little off the deep end. In drudging this whole sordid tale up, I can't help but but be shaken by the profound impact made by the silly string incident. That video certainly does place an incredibly blatant black cloud over Darlie's psyche.


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

That is exactly what had me thinking she was guilty, oh I felt like some of these Darlie haters sound but then I took a closer look and I saw how exhausted and sad she looked and I listened to her talk about her sons and I thought why would she do this right out of the blue, why would she? If she did she went nuts and did it for God knows what reason but I cannot believe that because there are too very many things that don't add up and I will never believe for one minute the then Darlie would bruise herself up and cut her own throat! I mean what kind of person does it take to do a thing like that? Darin had the reason and Darin is the one that has helped Darlie look so guilty. He didn't get to collect on her death but he has gotten to be a big star for years now running around free and clear and now maybe a millionaire or pretty close from what I have heard?

Whether true or not just listen to the difference in how they talk about their dead sons and you know who loved them and who is dead to the core in feelings.


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fpherj48 7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie...I shouldn't allow myself to get "started" on this issue....I just recently mentioned my staunch opinion on the Andrea Yates case, in terms of her clueless, moron-like husband! From day one of that horrible tragedy, I focused my anger, outrage and total disgust on a husband & father (if we can call him such with a straight face) Who, stuck his wife, (visibly & factually suffering from post-partum depression, increasingly worsening after each baby) & 4 babies in a small trailer. He insisted they be home-schooled, left Andrea for long hours each day with no assistance, freedom-transportation-contact with other adults and lack of proper medical care for her severe & increasing mental issues.

Month after month~ years later, even with clear, obvious red flags that any husband (paying attention) would take immediate action upon," Numb-nuts Randy" just ignores it all, goes off to work w/o a care in the world for the safety & security of his wife & 4 babies.

After Andrea is placed on trial & exposed as any number of terrible things as a mother (with little if any regard to her dire mental issues) locked up at first & then the subsequent actions that released her (Thank God!)....

What did "Father/Husband" of the Year do? Oh yeah, that's right~~he totally erased Andrea from his memory & life....divorced her~ married again & just picked up where he left off & began making babies again. Isn't this special?

So.....Jackie, if I have to start looking at Darrin, I will not be too eager to treat him kindly. Yes, of course his lack of emotion on the subject of his boys is disturbing. He TOO remarried & simply began a "new life." Well, ain't life just grand??


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Well Paula I wish we could see justice for Darlie and we may never but I feel sure in my heart whoever killed or helped plan the killing and/or hid evidence will see justice one day, one way or another.

I would feel much better if Darlie had any freedom in jail but she does not and how she stays sane is beyond me. Proven brutal murderers do not pay the price Darlie has.


kezy1996 7 months ago

Taken by Officer Chris Frosch at the Rowlett PD – 4.45 pm, June 8, 1996

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DARINS STATEMENT

We were watching TV in the Roman Room (Living Room SW Corner of House) watching [illegible] movie on HBO (Satellite). Baby Drake had fallen asleep about 10-10:30. I took him up to bed in parents room. Put blanket on him and turned out lights. I went down stairs to talk to Darlie. We talked about the boys not being able to start base-ball yet because we were so busy with the baby right now. We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby’s (all) today. Darlie said she wanted to sleep on the couch because she would sleep better because the baby would keep her awake. The boys were asleep with pillows and blankets on the floor. Devon was asleep face up in front of TV and Damon was asleep between couch and coffee table by the couch mom was. So I went upstairs to get her a blanket and pillow and came back downstairs to cover her up. We talked a little more

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about her going to Cancun with some friends across the street and I gave her a kiss goodnight. Told her to dream about me and went upstairs around 1:00am.I went and turned on TV in our room and watched for 10 to 15 min. and took my glasses off and turned TV off. I could not go to sleep for a while but finally I fell asleep. Uncontisly (sic)

(THIS IS WHERE DARINS STORY BEGINS TO CHANGE. IN INTERVIEWS HE SAYS THAT HE WENT TO BED AT 11 PM AND FELL ASLEEP RIGHT AWAY, IN ANOTHER INTERVIEW HE SAYS THAT HE WENT TO BED AT 1AM AND HE COULDNT SLEEP RIGHT AWAY.

I heard a noise and then Darlie screaming loud. She was yelling Devon! Devon!!

ARUEMENTS

(DARIN SAID IN INTERVIEWS THAT HE HEARD DARLIE SCREAMING DARIN DARIN DARIN HERE HE IS SAYING THAT SHE IS SCREAMING DEVON DEVON DEVON.

Oh my God Devon! I woke up quickly and grabbed my glasses on the night stand and ran downstairs as fast as I could.

ARGUMENTS

(DARIN SAYS HERE HE GRABS HIS GLASSES AND HE RUNS DOWN THE STAIRS, THERE IS NO MENTION OF HIM PUTTING HIS PANTS ON.

Going into the Living Room (Roman) I ran over to Devon laying on the floor where he was when I saw him last and nealed (sic) down over him

ARGUEMENTS

(DARIN SAYS HE WENT RIGHT OVER TO DEVON EXACTLY WHERE HE SAW HIM LAST, THIS STATEMENT BOTHERED ME HOW DID HE KNOW DEVON WOULD STILL BE IN THE EXACT SAME SPOT HE WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE, UNLESS HE SAW DEVON THE LAST PLACE HE WAS STABBED.

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to see if he was hurt and then looked at the coffee table to see it tipped over on him.

(THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE, IT WAS PROVEN WITH POLICE PHOTOS THAT THE TABLE WAS NEVER TIPPED OVER THE VERY DELICATE FLOWER ARRANGEMENT WAS NEVER TOUCHED, DARIN HAS LIED ABOUT REMOVING THAT TABLE FROM BEING ON TOP OF HIS SON DEVON)

When I looked again at his chest there were two holes in his chest with blood and muscle piecing (sic) out. I slapped his face to get him to say or look at me. No response. I started CPR and when I blew into his mouth air came out of his chest. I blew 5 or 6 times and held my hand over the holes on his chest. Then when that didn’t work I blew into one of the holes in his chest.

(DARIN IS DESCRIBING IN DETAIL WHAT HE DID AS SOON AS HE CAME DOWN THE STAIRS THERE IS NO POLICE AND NO MEDICS ON SITE, IN FACT HE IS STATING THAT DARIN IS JUST CALLING 911.

I looked over at Darlie and she was on the phone calling 911. I ran over to Damon laying on floor in hallway between wall and side of couch. He had no pulse but I could not see any injuries.

(DARIN IS LYING ABOUT THIS STATEMENT ABOUT DAMON HAVING NO PULSE AND HAVING NO INURIES. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF DARIN HAD COME DOWN THE STAIRS BEFORE DARLIE CALLED 911 THEN HE WOULD HAVE SEEN DAMON STANDING UP IN THE KITCHEN DOORWAY. THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL HE WAS WITH THOSE BOYS WHEN HE CLAIMED TO BE.

Police came in and I told them that my babys were stabbed and she told them that he went out of the garage.

ARGUEMENTS

(DARIN IS CLAIMING THAT HE TOLD THE FIRST RESPONDING OFFICER THAT HIS KIDS WERE STABBED AND THE INTRUDER WAS IN THE GARAGE. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A FATHER OR HUSBAND NOT SEARCHING FOR THE INTRUDER. HE DIDNT SEARCH FOR THE INTRUDER BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WAS THE INTRUDER.

I ran upstairs to put my pants on. I looked over and Drake was crying and I felt [illegible] he was ok.

ARGUMENTS

(THIS IS WHERE I FEEEL DARIN HAS COMPLETELY SCREWED UP. HE CLAIMS THAT WHEN THE POLICE CAME THROUGH THE DOOR HE TOLD THEM THE BOYS WERE STABBED, WE DONT HEAR THIS ON THE 911 TAPE. THEN HE SAYS HE RAN UPSTAIRS TO PUT HIS PANTS ON.

(THIS THE COURT TRANSCRIPT OF THE FIRST RESPODING OFFICER WADDELL. HE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WHEN HE MET UP WITH DARIN OUTSIDE THE HOUSE HE WAS WEARING HIS JEANS AND NO SOCKS. THIS IS CONSISTANT WITH WHAT DARLIES STATEMENT SAYS. SHE SAID DARIN HAD ON JEANS WHEN HE CAME DOWN THOSE STAIRS TO HELP HER.

. He was coming out of the front door, 15 across the yard. 16 Q. All right. Do you recall how he was 17 dressed that morning? 18 A. He was wearing blue jeans, no shirt, 19 no shoes.

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I noticed my wallet left on the floor and all I could think to do was to go [redacted] holler for help. I needed someone to help

ARGUEMENTS

(DARIN IS SAYING HE RAN OUT THE FRONT DOOR AFTER THE POLICE AND MEDICS ARRIVED, WE KNOW THIS IS NOT TRUE, SOMEHOW DARIN GOT PAST DARLIE AND HE WAS ABLE TO GET TO THE FRONT DOOR WEARING HIS PANTS. SO WHERE DID DARIN COME FROM, IT COULDNT HAVE BEEN UPSTAIRS AS HE CLAIMED PUTTING HIS PANTS ON, THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.

[illegible] and [illegible] the paramedics when they arrived. I went downstairs ran out the house and ran across the street to [redacted] and [redacted] door. I banged 5-6 times as hard as I could until [redacted] comes to the doors 1st and when I told them that Devon and Damon were stabbed they were in shock and ran over with me to the house and that was when they were putting Damon on a stretcher. I knew that

Devon was dead before I ran across street and Damon had no pulse but the paramedic carried him out in a blanket out the front door. I ran out yelling that we have to find

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who did this and [redacted] told me that Darlie was cut too! I never knew that she was hurt yet she had blood all over her from the neck down to the bottom of her nightshirt.

(DARIN CLAIMS THAT HE DIDNT KNOW DARLIE WAS HURT. THERE WAS A NEIGHBOR THAT CAME HOME JUST AFTER ONE AM, HE TESTIFIED THAT HE SAW AND HEARD DARIN RUNNING OUTSIDE HIS HOME BEFORE ANY POLICE ARRIVED. HE SAID HE WAS YELLING SOMEONE STABBED MY WIFE AND KIDS. THIS PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT DARIN WAS OUTSIDE BEFORE OFFICER WADDEL ARRIVED AT THAT HOME. OFFICER WADDEL SAID DARIN WAS WEARING PANTS, BUT DARINS CLAIMS IN HIS STATEMENT THAT HE WENT TO PUT HIS PANTS ON WHEN THE OFFICERS CAME TO THE DOOR.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW THE HELL THE POLICE AND EVERYONE ELSE COULDNT SEE WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

She was standing in the door way with the paramedics said she needed to go to the hospital. So we helped her onto the stretcher and she said “Darin you have to promise me we will find this man! He killed our babys.”

ARGUEMENTS

(WHY CANT ANYONE SEE THAT DARIN DELIBRATELY AVOIDED GIVING THE ONLY TWO LIVING VICTIMS HELP. HE LIED ABOUT HIS SON DAMON BEING DEAD WE KNOW FOR A FACT HE WASNT DEAD, HE WAS STILL ALIVE WHEN THE MEDICS GOT THERE. HE KNEW DARLIE WAS STABBED BECAUSE HE WAS OUTSIDE THE HOME BEFORE ANY POLICE ARRIVED AND WAS YELLING MY WIFE AND KIDS WERE STABBED.

I walked back into house pushed my way through the police and saw the knife on the bar in kitchen w/blood all over it. [illegible] went to garage and door [illegible] to look at the window that the police had said he entered and I went out of the house and walked across the street and neighbors were there to

ARGUMENTS

(DEVON WAS STILL LAYING ON THE FLOOR IN THAT HOUSE WHEN DARIN WENT BACK IN. HIS PRIORITY WAS TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND SNEAK AROUND HIS HOUSE. WHY WASNT THAT CRIME PROTECTED, WHY DID THE POLICE LET DARIN GO TO THE NEIGHBORS AND WASH OFF THE EVIDENCE? DARIN HAD FULL CONTROL OF THAT CRIME SCENE FROM THE START.

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comfort me and ask me about what happened.

ARGUMENTS

( HOW THE HELL COULD T


kezy1996 7 months ago

It seems that so many people have taken an interest in Darlies case, so many new facts have been shown and proven that there was not just deception with the police but every word that came out of Darins mouth was a complete lie.

Darin was seen and heard outside his home before any police arrived. Officer Waddell confirmed this also, dispite the fact that Darin denied meeting Waddell outside the house running by the fountial. Why didn't anyone ask where he was running from? This also confirms what the neighbor said,, he saw Darin running infront of his house yelling someone stabbed my wife and kids.

This proves my theory that Darin could and did accidently leave his sock in that alley by the manhole. Darin claims he was not wearing jeans when he came down, He claimed that when the officer arrived he went upstairs to put pants on. This not true at all. Officer Waddell says in his court statement that Darin was wearing jeans when he first arrived on scene. How could that police have missed this crucial fact, this proves that the intruder Darlie followed out to the utility room existed, it also moves that Darin wasn't in his room when that wine glass broke, he was right there, infact it was the intruder who broke the glass.

Cant over look Darlies panties, they were gone and Darin made a point of asking Darlie infront of the paramedics where they went. Here is one son dead in one room another almost dead, they are rushing Darlie to hospital, and Darin is stalling by asking her where her panties went.

The only reason those panties went missing was if the person that removed them was scared of the police finding dna on them. The only person who would be worried about that is Darin. He could explain dna anywhere else but not on her panties. They hadn't slept together in over a week, there is no way he could explain his dna on her panties. They found his pubic hair on her nightgown, that alone convinced me that Darin was the attacker, but they claimed that it was possible for that hair to be on her nightgown, not sure how, did Darin sit in the family room nude with his wife and kids to watch tv? knowing how creepy the guy is it wouldn't surprise me.

I am upset the most that the police said Darins statements matched the crime scene and fit the evidence. There is not one single thing that came out of Darins mouth that was true or consistant. Why the hell is this guy still free


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fpherj48 7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

This is the first I'm hearing of any of this police report. I would love to find all of this online somewhere, along with the trial transcripts. If all that you have presented here is as it was, it's beyond comprehension that Darrin was not as much (if not more) a suspect as Darlie. Has Darlie ever once uttered that she believes Darrin capable of this?


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Kezy, that is so interesting! I did not know all this but I think he is free because those stupid cops centered on Darlie and by the time they realized who was the real murderer they could not back track. That is how they managed to take a baby from an innocent man, the only way. They are letting Darlie rot in jail knowing she is innocent. They cannot afford to face the consequences. They don't even care!


joan douglas 7 months ago

Darin killed those boys I have researched and given every bit of evidence I can if the united states legal system thinks its more important to kill an innocent woman and save money than to put a murdering father behind bars then I have lost my fight for justice. this case has consumed me and there is no hope for truth or justice in my lifetime or yours


joan douglas 7 months ago

I have contacted the DA office , texas rangers, nancy grace, anyone I could think of, DARIN ROUTER KILLED HIS BOYS, HE USED A FAKE CPR ATTEMPT IN FRONT OF OFFICER WADDLELL TO AVOID GETTING CAUTHT HE USED HIS OWN WIFE TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER IF THE UNITED STATES LEGAL SYSTEM CHOOSES TO BELIEVE GREG DAVIS OVER ME THEN I HOPE GOD PROTECTS YOUR CHILDREN FROM FREAKY PENDIILES LIKE DARIN ROUTIER


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Whether he actually did it I am not sure because as I have mentioned here there could have been someone hired to do it but I certainly believe he is behind it and intended Darlie to be the main victim for insurance. I think his sons just got caught in the middle but I don't think he cared.


kez1996 7 months ago

Do you think Basia his employee was involed?


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Jackie Lynnley 7 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I know nothing about Basia, never even heard the name. As I mentioned above though there were a couple of prisoners made statements some suspected had to do with this.


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fpherj48 7 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Yes, Jackie.....You know who "Basia" is. You've just possibly forgotten. She is "Barbara" the boys Nanny. Bryan St John sent you the video of his long conversation with her. She has the foreign accent. She loved the boys so much. I would never suspect her of having a thing to do with this.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Oh yes, I had forgotten the name and I did not get far into that video. Bryan has an obsession that is quite disturbing to me and I just blank him out or do not listen to him as I have heard enough from him. I am against Darin but I am not ranting about it. Sheee.


kezy1996 6 months ago

I have gotten carried away with believing that Darin killed Devon and Damon.

I just don't get it, Darlie has no history of violence, no history of child abuse, even the autopsy showed the boys were in perfect health,

Darin on the other hand had so many motives, love and money being the most common reasons for killing. Darin was broke and Darlie was leaving him.

I don't understand how the police didn't pick up on him lying about not wearing pants. Both officer Waddell and Darlie said he was wearing jeans when he came down. Darin specifically said when the police came to the door he went up and put his pants on. No matter which time he is referring to doesn't matter, Waddell was the first officer there and he said he had pants on. The eyewitness across the street also said he saw and heard Darin outside before the police arrived, he also said Darin was wearing jeans, That puts Darin outside that house right after the stabbings. Waddell showed up at the house in 2 minutes after Darlie called police, according to the doctors the boys could have lived up to 9 minutes, that puts the stabbings at 2:26 because Damon died approximately 6 minutes after Darlie called 911

not only that according to Darin he did cpr on Devon as soon as he got down stairs, he admitted this in his statement. Then Waddell described Darin giving cpr to Devon again when he got there, He knew and admitted that he knew Devon was already dead soon as he got to him. He lied and said he didn't help Damon because he checked and he was also dead. We know that was also a lie, he was alive right up until medics and police arrived, he also lied and said the reason he didn't help Darlie was because he didn't know she was hurt. The neighbor heard Darin outside before any police arrived, he said someone stabbed my wife and kids. He made no attempt to try and help the only two survivors.

What makes matters worse is they let Darin wash up before they took a statement or evidence from him. They screwed up getting an easy conviction on Darin so they focused on Darlie.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I think yes, Darin possibly wanted the boys dead whether he killed them or not because of what they might have seen and could tell. He could have thought Darlie was dead for I do believe she was unconscious for awhile and I also think as I read in this book that she possibly had a chemical used on her while she was sleeping. She could have been raped, stabbed and left for dead. Since she does not remember fighting anyone off, thus the defense wounds it really sounds like she had something used on her and isn't it odd that she has all these defense wounds she supposedly does to herself but she does not have a story of fighting anyone off? Why do all that to herself otherwise?


kezy1996 6 months ago

it is very odd, what I just cant get past is why the police let Darin wash up, and re enter that house to go over the crime scene. He described in detail where a lot of things were, his son Devon was in the house and he didn't say a dam word about him. They weren't even concerned about finding Darlies panties. The only reason they would go missing is if someone couldn't explain away their dna on her panties. Darin was able to explain the pubic hair found on her night gown but they didn't sleep together for a week, there is no way he could explain away his dna on her panties. They laughed when I brought up her being drugged, but she had all the signs. Unless a person knows what happened when the rape drugs is used its hard for them to understand Darlies story. Woman have been drugged with that and raped and beaten half to death and have no memory. She just had no motive, she wanted out of the marriage and it cost her everything. I will always believe that. When I read his police statement again I know for a fact he was outside right after the stabbings, how could they possibly miss all those facts, That creep is free and Darlie is preparing to die, so wrong. That Bryan St. john has done everything he possibly could to still try and make people believe she is guilty, I think his sites actually helped Darlies case


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I have listened to him for years and I just don't want to hear another word he has to say. Why is it so important to him for her to be guilty? And how can he defend Darin? If Darlie did it (which I just do not believe) then Darin had to be privy to it, somehow or another.

I seriously think he has helped her all along to look guilty, maybe antagonized her with his thoughts to make her look loony to everyone and who knows what he was encouraging her to take or possibly even giving her without her knowing? I mean if he is a murder, why not? He is trying to save his butt.


kezy1996 6 months ago

I agree with you 100 percent, if Darlie was part of it there was no way in hell she would have allowed herself to beaten that way and for her throat to be cut. Even if she was over the legal limit of drinks, it makes no sense for her to all of sudden kill her boys that way and then to hurt her self so violently. I believe Darin just snapped that night, she told him that night she was leaving, they had planned a holiday and even paid for all the flights for them and the kids, he was desprete for money and we was cut off sex and then told she was leaving, I think he was stewing that night. I don't think Darin had planned it to happen that night but I think he was planning the robbery for some time, I think he got the drugs way in advance and when she told him she was leaving that night he lost it. He knew he didn't have the money to take them on the trip, he was absolutely desperate.


lindaf3 6 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

It so very simple.. Darin could NOT hear a wineglass break while beeing upstairs! But he told this in every interview.. It makes no sense saying Darlie lost it because of depressions what so ever.. and then trying to clear the crimescene and make it look like a break in. That break in idea was Darins..Who would risk killing those children, while your husband is up stairs??? Wouldnt he also wake up by baby drake, who was so active at night??? Why would Darlie take that risk? Makes really no sense..


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Kezy, I have always said Darlie took so much pride in her looks, doing this to herself is absolute insanity if she did it and I will never believe she did. I mean we all get some depression now and then and maybe even wish a spouse dead (or out of the picture) but never our kids! I am sure she loeved her kids and still does. These cops know now what they did and so does everyone around them protecting them!


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

linda- It is suppose to be a fact how bad the cops messed up the crime scene and came tracking in the middle of blood and everything else. They probably had to make it look like someone else did it when truthfully all that could be on their heads. Wasn't a hair in the torn screen found to be a female cops? I am sure I heard that. Why not charge her?Makes more sense than going after Darlie. I honestly believe that!


kezy1996 6 months ago

Yes there was a hair found to be a female cop. That entire crime scene investigation was a complete joke. I really believe that Darlie was talked into saying as little as possible I think they all convinced her that they wouldn't be able to charge her because of the botched crime scene. Darlie first mistake was trusting and listening to Darin, her second mistake was not getting a lawyer before talking to police. They started to interigate her before she was clear from the surgery. They had to go after Darlie because they were afraid of no conviction and the finger would be pointed right at them for the way they handled Darin. I think they have a good chance of getting him now dispite their mistakes, he couldn't keep his mouth shut and now all the lies have come out and he puts himself right there when the stabbings happened. I say go get that son of a b


kezy1996 6 months ago

I posted that about the wine glass also, he wasn't in his room when that glass broke, he was at the other end of the house on a different floor, it took him at least three minutes to get down those stairs after that glass broke and Darlie screamed, it was right at that time the neighbor said he saw Darin running by the fountain yelling. Why cant the police just admit they screwed up.


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Statement of Darin Routier

Taken by Officer Chris Frosch at the Rowlett PD – 4.45 pm, June 8, 1996

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We were watching TV in the Roman Room (Living Room SW Corner of House) watching [illegible] movie on HBO (Satellite). Baby Drake had fallen asleep about 10-10:30. I took him up to bed in parents room. Put blanket on him and turned out lights. I went down stairs to talk to Darlie. We talked about the boys not being able to start base-ball yet because we were so busy with the baby right now.

DARIN IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHY THE BOYS COULDNT PLAY BASEBALL THAT YEAR, HE DIDNT HAVE THE MONEY, HIS CAR WAS ALWAYS BROKEN DOWN AND WAS USING DARLIES CAR TO GO TO WORK LEAVING HER STRANDED WITHOUT A CAR WITH THREE YOUNG BOYS.

We talked about the business, bills, and how Darlie was having a hard time with taking care of the baby’s (all) today. Darlie said she wanted to sleep on the couch because she would sleep better because the baby would keep her awake.

DARIN IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH HERE EITHER, DARLIE DIDNT DECIDE THAT NIGHT TO SLEEP ON THE COUCH SHE HAD BEEN SLEEPING ON THE COUCH FOR SOME TIME. DARIN KNEW DARLIE WANTING A SEPERATION AND HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

The boys were asleep with pillows and blankets on the floor. Devon was asleep face up in front of TV and Damon was asleep between couch and coffee table by the couch mom was. So I went upstairs to get her a blanket and pillow and came back downstairs to cover her up. We talked a little more

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about her going to Cancun with some friends across the street and I gave her a kiss goodnight. Told her to dream about me and went upstairs around 1:00am

SO LET ME GET THIS, HE HAD NO MONEY TO PAY CREDIT CARDS HE WAS BEHIND ON THE MORTGAGE, GOT TURNED DOWN FOR A 5000 DOLLAR LOAN, THEY HAD A FAMILY TRIP COMING UP RIGHT AWAY WITH THE FLIGHTS ALREADY PAID FOR AND NOW HE IS TELLING DARLIE THAT SHE IS GOING TO CANCUN ON VACATION.. PLEASE

.I went and turned on TV in our room and watched for 10 to 15 min. and took my glasses off and turned TV off. I could not go to sleep for a while but finally I fell asleep.

WATCH THE INTERVIEW WITH THE WRONG MAN, DARIN TOLD THOSE INVESTIGATORS IN THAT INTERVIEW HE WENT TO BED AT 11PM, HE SAID HE WENT RIGHT TO SLEEP AND THEN HE WAS WOKEN BY A GLASS BREAKING AND DARLIE SCREAMING HIS NAME NOT DEVONS NAME HIS NAME.

Uncontisly (sic) I heard a noise and then Darlie screaming loud. She was yelling Devon! Devon!! Oh my God Devon! I woke up quickly and grabbed my glasses on the night stand and ran downstairs as fast as I could.

ACCORDING TO THE TIMELINE DARIN ISNT HEARD ON THE 911 CALL UNTIL 30 SECONDS AFTER DARLIE CALLS 911. AT LEAST THREE MINUTES PASS BEFORE HE GETS DOWN THOSE STAIRS. DEVON DIED WHERE HE WAS STABBED, IF DARIN CAME DOWN AND WENT RIGHT TO DEVON AS HE CLAIMED THERE WOULD BE PROOF OF DEVON MOVING BUT THERE IS NO PROOF OF THAT AT ALL, THAT BLOOD PATTERN PROVES HE WAS DEAD BEFORE DARIN EVEN GOT TO HIM.

Going into the Living Room (Roman) I ran over to Devon laying on the floor where he was when I saw him last and nealed (sic) down over him

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to see if he was hurt and then looked at the coffee table to see it tipped over on him.

WE KNOW DARIN IS LYING ABOUT THE COFFEE TABLE BEING ON TOP OF DEVON. HE ALSO CLAIMED AT ONE POINT THE FLOWER ARRANGEMENT ON THAT TABLE WAS TIPPED OVER, THROUGH POLICE PHOTOS WE KNOW FOR A FACT DARIN WAS LYING ABOUT THAT.

NOT ONLY THAT DARLIE ALSO SAID THAT THE TABLE WAS PARTLY TIPPED, BUT ACCORDING TO HER SHE HADNT GONE OVER TO DEVON YET, SHE WAS ONLY DEALING WITH DAMON AT FIRST, THE GLASS BROKE AND THEN SHE WENT OVER TO DAMON AND WAS HELPING HIM, HOW DID KNOW TO GO OVER WHERE DEVON WAS, HOW DID HE KNOW DEVON WAS HURT, HE WOULD HAVE TO GO RIGHT PAST HIS SON DAMON WHO WAS ALIVE TO EVEN GET TO DEVON. AGAIN I THINK DARIN COACHED DARLIE ON WHAT TO SAY TO PROTECT HIMSELF AND USE HER AS A WITNESS.

When I looked again at his chest there were two holes in his chest with blood and muscle piecing (sic) out. I slapped his face to get him to say or look at me. No response.

DARIN IS ADMITTING HERE HE KNEW DEVON WAS ALREADY DEAD, I DONT BLAME HIM FOR TRYING TO HELP DEVON AT THIS POINT, I BLAME HIM FOR THE SECOND FAKE CPR THAT HE DID ON HIS SON AFTER THE FIRST OFFICER ARRIVED. HE LIED AND SAID DAMON WAS DEAD, AND THAT IS THE REASON HE DIDNT HELP HIM, BUT WE ALL KNOW DAMON LIVED FOR SIX MINUTES AFTER DARLIE CALLED 911.

I started CPR and when I blew into his mouth air came out of his chest. I blew 5 or 6 times and held my hand over the holes on his chest. Then when that didn’t work I blew into one of the holes in his chest. I looked over at Darlie and she was on the phone calling 911.

DARIN CLAIMS HE WAS ALREADY DOWN STAIRS BEFORE DARLIE CALLED 911, HE WAS NOT EVEN HEARD FOR 30 SECONDS AFTER SHE CALLED 911. AT LEAST THREE MINUTES PASSED FROM WHEN THE GLASS BROKE AND SHE SCREAMED FOR DARIN, WHERE WAS DARIN FOR THOSE THREE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.

I ran over to Damon laying on floor in hallway between wall and side of couch. He had no pulse but I could not see any injuries.

DARIN CLAIMS HE DIDNT GIVE DAMON ANY HELP BECAUSE HE HAD NO PULSE, YET WHEN THE POLICE CAME IN THE OFFICER SAID DAMON WAS MOVING AND LOOKING AROUND THE ROOM. HE LIVED FOR 6 MINUTES AFTER DARLIE CALLED 911.

Police came in and I told them that my babys were stabbed and she told them that he went out of the garage. I ran upstairs to put my pants on. I looked over and Drake was crying and I felt [illegible] he was ok.

THIS IS THE PART THAT REALLY UPSETS ME THE MOST. BOTH DARLIE AND OFFICER WADDELL SAID DARIN HAD PANTS ON WHEN HE CAME DOWN THOSE STAIRS. WADDELL SAID HE RAN RIGHT INTO DARIN RUNNING BESIDE THE FOUNTAIN HE SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT DARIN WAS WEARING HIS JEANS. NOT ONLY THAT AN EYE WITNESS PUTS DARIN RUNNING OUTSIDE HIS HOME BEFORE THE POLICE ARRIVED, THIS PUTS DARIN OUTSIDE THAT HOUSE RIGHT AFTER THE STABBINGS. THIS ALSO MEANS THAT THE SOCK IN THE ALLEY WASNT LEFT BY DARLIE, DARINS DNA COULDNT BE EXCLUDED FROM THAT SOCK, SO THAT TELLS ME HE DID LEAVE IT AT THE MANHOLE. HE DIDNT ADMIT THE SOCK WAS HIS AT FIRST, THIS TELLS ME HE DIDNT REALIZE THAT HE HAD EVEN LOST THE SOCK THERE, MEANING IN COULD HAVE FALLEN OUT OF HIS PANT LEG BY MISTAKE.

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I noticed my wallet left on the floor and all I could think to do was to go [redacted] holler for help. I needed someone to help [illegible] and [illegible] the paramedics when they arrived.

DARIN HAS ALREADY SAID THAT HE WENT UP THE STAIRS TO PUT HIS PANTS ON HE SAYS THATS WHEN THE POLICE FIRST CAME IN, SO WHY IS SAYING NOW THAT HE RUNS DOWN THE STAIRS AND RIGHT OUT THE FRONT DOOR TO GET HELP, HELP IS ALREADY THERE, NOT ONE OFFICER OR MEDIC SAYS DARIN RAN OUT, THEY SAID HE WAS JUST STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LIVING ROOM AWAY FROM ALL THREE VICTIMS.

I went downstairs ran out the house and ran across the street to [redacted] and [redacted] door.

AGAIN DARLIE AND OFFICER WADDELL SAID DARIN HAD HIS PANTS ON, HE CLAIMS HE RAN OUT OF THE HOUSE AFTER POLICE ARRIVED, HE DIDNT GO FOR HELP, WADDELL FOLLOWED HIM INTO THE HOUSE THEN WADDELL SAID DARIN DID THE CPR ON DEVON. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT DEVON IS GONE, WE ALSO KNOW THAT DAMON IS STILL ALIVE MOVING, DARIN DOESNT GO ANYWHERE NEAR DAMON HE PRETENDS TO BE DOING THE SAME CPR ON HIS DEVON KNOWING HE HAD PASSED OVER 5 MINUTES EARLIER. OFFICER WADDELL HAD NO IDEA THAT DARIN WAS FAKING THE CPR ON DEVON JUST TO AVOID HELPING DAMON. I THINK HE AVOIDED DAMON BECAUSE HE WAS SCARED THE BOY WOULD REACT TO HIM AND GIVE HIM AWAY.

I banged 5-6 times as hard as I could until [redacted] comes to the doors 1st and when I told them that Devon and Damon were stabbed they were in shock and ran over with me to the house and that was when they were putting Damon on a stretcher. I knew that

Devon was dead before I ran across street and Damon had no pulse but the paramedic carried him out in a blanket out the front door. I ran out yelling that we have to find

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who did this and [redacted] told me that Darlie was cut too! I never knew that she was hurt yet she had blood all over her from the neck down to the bottom of her nightshirt. She was standing i


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

All of this does sound very suspicious yet those amateur police in that town don't have a clue. It makes me so sick that Darlie has had to go through all this and I imagine even caring for the man who killed her sons or else was responsible for the ones who did. I bet he thought she was dead too until he heard her scream or else call 911.

Hard to even say what I feel about that poor excuse of a father and husband.


kezy1996 6 months ago

I am just amazed that Darin wasn't immediately arrested after he had given that statement to police, they had to sit around and discus the fact that they screwed up so bad with Darin that they had to make it stick with Darlie, Darin helped convict her, When he said in his interview he was going to stand by Darlie to end or something to that affect, he also said I am tired of people coming to me asking me to help Darlie, then realized what he said and started to back track, he then says there would be no helping if she was innocent. Everything that has come out of his mouth has been a complete lie.


Sillystrings 6 months ago

all the evidence points to Darlie. I believe that Darin covered up for her and knows she did it. Darlie totally and completely is guilty, thus her self-injury to try to avert suspicion.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Yeah, these cops screwed up bad and it only got crazier and crazier once they focused on Darlie and all of a sudden Darlie is talking and acting crazy and no one person, even Darlie's family suspect Darin of having a hand in getting her in that condition? That has always puzzled me. It seemed Darlie's mom was closer with Darin than she was Darlie. Surely Darin did not have her convinced too it was Darlie just to take suspicion off himself?


kezy1996 6 months ago

you are so right about that. Darlie was the way out for the police to take the attention off themselves and put it on Darlie. I am stunned that there was so much evidence against Darin that wasn't discovered until later.

I am sure that if they had taken Darin into custody and gotten a statement from him immediately that they would have had a solid conviction against him. It just goes to show how much power the police have over a person life


kezy1996 6 months ago

I wanted to point something out about Officer Waddells statements in court.

Waddell said he followed Darin into the house, he gives details on how he seen Damon alive and moving, yet Darin would have passed right by the living boy to get to Devon, this is the child that Darin claimed was already dead over 2 minutes prior to officer Waddell arriving. The officer asked Darin to go and help the boy.

Instead of telling officer Waddell the truth that he knew Devon was already dead, he deliberately avoided helping Damon who he had to pass to get to Devon. He then continued to do the fake cpr on Devon, still ignoring Damon who was clearly still alive.

Why didn't Darin go right over to Damon knowing Devon was already dead. Instead Darin claimed that he didn't help Damon because he checked him and didn't get a pulse.

We know Darin lied about this also because Waddell went into detail about how he saw Damon moving and looking around the room. Darlie had no cpr experience at all, and Darin had seven years experience. If this isn't intentional I don't know what is.

Not only that officer Waddell said he didn't go all the way into the garage because he didn't want to leave all of them in the living room not knowing where the suspect was.

Well Darin didn't have a problem at all running out of that house without his wife or children. He also forced the issue claiming the intruder was still in the garage. What kind of a husband and father runs out of the house leaving his dying family to fend for themselves.

its clear to me by Waddells interview and his court statements that he was coached into what to say to help the prosecution convict Darlie. Along with Crons views on the blood patterns being false, Darlie had no chance in court at all.

It couldn't really be possible for the prosecution and investigators to taint this case by having witnesses and hospital staff change their stories to help convict Darlie is it?

Well after reading the statements made by hospital staff and also by the police officers involved I would say it was very possible.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Yes it looks clear to me they made them change statements and not only that but the prosecution brought in things about Darlie going to a male strip bar or something and things to make her look like a bad mother that would kill her kids because of things like that. I wish someone would come forward and put that whole bunch under the jail although I know it won't happen I seriously know one day they will answer for this. Darlie may have life but they will get eternity. Darin included.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

The police saw their mistake and that is how they took Darin's baby. They would have never been able to do that but they have told Darin what they knew after they already sent Darlie down the river and Darin did not fight it. Why else would he have not? Darlie can't hurt that baby, so that is no reason and some say because he defended Darlie and that is no reason either. I don't know why no one discusses this big issue? In no book or article, nowhere. This is a telling piece of evidence.


Magpie 6 months ago

Drake was taken away from Darin because Darin insisted that if Darlie was granted bail she would be living at home with Drake, whether the court issued a restraining order or not.


kezzy1996 6 months ago

No matter where I look Darins name always comes up as the person who killed his children. I had to find out for myself if this was true.

Darin was never mentioned to the jury as being the other suspect dispite all the eviedence against him.

1, Darin was not in his room as he claimed when the boys were stabbed. he was seen by a neighbor outside his house running from around the fountain when he ran into the first responding officer.

2. Darin claimed he gave cpr to Devon before any police arrived on the scene. Also not true. The cpr that Darin claime to have been given to Devon wasn't done for three minutes after he alleges to have come out of his room. This was proven and confirmed by officer Waddell, so what did Darin do for those three minutes before police arrived.

3. Darin left the home and told officer Waddell he was going over to karens, but Darin didn't go to karens at that time. I believe he went down that alley and disposed of the evidence, that explains the sock that was found by the manhole. look closely at that sock, it has been slightly worn, it had fibers from Darins runners on it. They retested the sock in 2015 and found Darin couldn't be excluded from the DNA on the sock. The sock doesn't look like it was planted, it takes on the shape as though it had been drug after being carried and drug by a pantleg. They couldn't explain the sock it was just to weird so they blamed Darlie for it. Darin denied the sock was his until they explain to him they had proof it was his. They found all that evidence to support Darin had left the sock there and yet they still blamed Darlie

4. Darin changed his story so many times to try and cover up the fact that he was there when the boys were stabbed.

5. Darin lied and said the reason he didn't help Damon was because he had no pulse, this guy deliberately stayed with Devon as an excuse not to help Damon. Damon lived for 6 minutes after Darlie called 911.

Darin said Darlie saw him come from his room and come down those stairs, lies again, Darlie was on the phone with 911 when Darin came down those stairs, she is no where near the front door or staircase

6. To try and cover up how he knew about the evidence Darin claimed that he went back into the house with out police knowing and looked over the crime scene.

7. while Darlie and Damon were off to the hospital Darin went to the neighbors and washed up.

I can keep going but I think I have made my point here


kezzy1996 6 months ago

The jury was never given a reasonable doubt by Darlies lawyer. Darin hired this lawyer and with that came the agreement that this lawyer never implicate Darin in the crime.

I couldn't believe this so I researched it. Sure enough Darlie lawyer never told the jury about Darin or all the evidence against him. He didn't even bring in another suspect other than the intruder. There was no evidence to back up the theory of an intruder. Darin forced that theory on the police from the second he got there. Darlie tried telling Darin this was deliberately done but Darin wouldn't listen, he is heard on the 911 call arguing with Darlie saying the took and they ran.

Imagine what Darlies trial would have been like if her lawyer would have properly investigated her case, she couldn't do it she was locked up, she trusted this man to make sure he gathered any and all evidence to try and give reasonable doubt. Instead what Darlies lawyer did was surpress information from the jury that would have proven someone else committed that crime. Darlie got raped by her lawyer, the system and her family


kezzy1996 6 months ago

what did Darin lie about, lets start from the beginning and work our way down.

He lied about not being outside right after the stabbings

He lied about the table falling on Devon

He lied about giving Devon cpr before the police arrived

He lied about why he didn't help Damon, twice

He lied when he said Damon didn't have a pulse

He lied when he said his cpr training told him not to touch Damon

He lied about not having pants on when he came downstairs

He lied about Darlie seeing him come out of his room

He lied about Waddell seeing him outside

He lied about going back into the house to look at evidence

He lied about the sock not being his

He failed the lie detector test not once but twice.

He lied about not knowing Darlie was cut

He lied about going to karens the first time he left the house.

He lied about not having financial issues

He lied about why Darlie was sleeping on the couch

He lied about everything, makes me sick to my stomach


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

kezzy, I heard that on the tape when Darin says 'they took'...and to me it sounded as if he was going to name something they took but perhaps he looked and what they were suppose to have taken was still there. I have found no one else that even agrees that he said 'They took" so glad to hear someone else say it finally.


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I honestly think Darlie said a lot of things defending Darin because she did not have a clue he was guilty of anything and I think he fed her information and I think he was behind her being so crazy and mixed up. Why not? He didn't want to trade places with her and besides, she was suppose to be dead and him a lot wealthier. Everyone talks about how wild she talked, there was some reason for that. He had no love for any of them and Darlie's mother or someone should have seen Darlie had a separate lawyer!


kezzy1996 6 months ago

The reason why Darlie couldn't go after that lawyer for conflict of interest is because Darlie knew he represented Darin first. It was up to Darlie to have know the consiquences of that, for that reason they didn't consider that a conflict. For some reason Darlies family seems to have given up on her


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I guess Darlie's mom never suspected Darin once and I do not understand that. She surely knew about the planned break in he spoke to her husband about wasn't it? I think that would have come to my mind immediately.


lindaf3 6 months ago from Amsterdam, The Netherlands

Kezzy is right about this. I have studied it myself over and over again... Darin his statements are not adding up whith the statements of others. Darin did fit the ''intruder'' suspect. Longer hair a bit, tall etc. Why is no one digging deeper into Darin Routier?? He lied like Kezzy said, about the coffeetable beeing tipped over, he lied about the fact that he was OUTSIDE before Waddell arrived... He was the only adult not beeing hurt.. This must have been a big decision for Darlie.. not pointing out towards her husband, because Drake is the remaining son... Did he beat her up after the hospital stay?? Did she accuse him mayby? Did he beat her up because of that( her bruises showed up much later.. ) There is no DNA of an intruder.. thats crystalclear.. but their was Darin that night.. and no one really checked him out!!


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Jackie Lynnley 6 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I don't think she had any belief that he did this although she may suspect it now. I mean she was a mother who was attacked, maybe raped and drugged and her little boys murdered and dying right in front of her. She had to be pretty crazy there for awhile and then attacked by the law.

It is hard to tell what all he has said to her and done to make her look guilty while consoling her and acting to be the concerned husband and father.

They know he did it, they took his baby but they had already convicted his wife and could not back down from that and they never will. They took the baby to save it from Darin and that is all they did.

It just does not look good for Darlie. A real shame and Darin could care less.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

The so called "Mulch" is a figment of James Crons imagination!

It simply "DOES NOT EXIST" see the photos there is no mulch and no dust. You do not have to take Darlies friends husbands word for it. At trial detective Frosch (a tall burly officer) went through the screen several times without disturbing a thing!

If you read Chrons testimony you get an idea of the bias in this case for example even after the demonstration(which is on record) refuses to accept someone could go through that window without disturbing anything!


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

The nightshirt had and still has no evidence of this cast off. If anyone has Chris Browns book there is a picture of what was identified as Devons blood. A tiny Dot the size of a pin head with no directionality meaning in was placed there it NEVER flew though the air!

The nightshirt supports Darlies story that she was laying on the sofa when she was cut not at the kitchen sink as the state suggested.

The pooling on the back collar along with the pool of her blood that went through her pillowcase and through the pillow underneath.

This things are scientific FACT and have nothing to do with being delusional. Its just how Gravity works! Jeez did no one pass science in school?


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Yes I do think I remember reading the window was so low to the ground it could be stepped through easily.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

The reason Darin was not arrested was straight away is because of James Chron. He was suffering from confirmation bias and shared it with all the other officers that Datlie was guilty after 20 minutes. Due to this focus noone looked at Darin and Darlie was arrested after just 8 days before they even tested any evidence. In fact they were still testing evidence as the case came to trial. As others have said I think by that point it was too late so they pieced evidence together to confirm their bias that Darlie was the perp.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

But she was in prison when they took him.....so how does that make sense?


joni 5 months ago

How is it possible that they have all that evidence against Darin and they have not even brought him in for questioning what the hell are they waiting for, He lied about Damon having no pulse, he lied about the cpr to Devon before police arrived, he lied about being in his room when the stabbing happened, he lied about being outside with Waddell. Darin accused Waddell of letting the intruder get away, Darin was that intruder the neighbor saw him, He is admitting to the whole world that he killed those boys and they still haven't arrested him, He is laughing at the courts the legal system, he is laughing at the whole world. Everytime this man goes on tv and describes in detail that cpr he claimed to have done on his son Devon before police arrived he is laughing. Watch those videos, his eyes light up, his story gets bigger and more detailed everytime he tells it, his eyes dart back and forth with excitement waiting and watching for a reaction, he has added to that horrible story every time and the worst part it was all a lie, That cpr was not done until three minutes later when Waddell walked in and saw it, Waddell described that exact same scene. For crying out loud people open your eyes read Darins police statements go to the court transcripts, watch his interviews its all l.ies all of it. Darin was caught outside right after those boys were stabbed, he was not in his room as he claimed, he accidently lost his sock in that alley when he was getting rid of Darlies panties and the other knife, Police did not check that manhole.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Wow, you know the blood pooling goes with the thought in this book that she was passed out awhile and I have always thought that. Whoever sliced her neck she fought against getting all the defensive wounds and they have used something over her face to knock her out (maybe that is when they sliced her throat) and I think they thought she was dead and if not Darin they left the house or if Darin he had time to get rid of the bloody clothes and even possibly giving them to an accomplice who dropped the sock? Very possible.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

I agree Jackie about the nightshirt. The blood pooling proves she was either knocked out or asleep at the time she was stabbed. Either way Darlie was not at the kitchen sink when her throat was cut! she was definitely lying on that sofa where she said she was which supports her version of events.These are scientific facts yet people refuse to believe the real evidence in this case or just dismiss it.

Damon also had pooling on the posterior area of the back of his jeans. This means that Damon most certainly got up after he was stabbed. Damon was stabbed in the back for blood to pool like that around the bum area means Damon was upright. Damons bloody hand print on the carpet supports this that he may have used his hand to push himself off the ground.

There was also a bloody palm print on the sofa Darlie lay on which was believed to be Damon's. I feel this supports Darlies statement that she was on A. on the sofa where she said she was and B. Supports her statement that Damon got up and woke her up with his hand on her shoulder.

I think Lloyd Harrell the FBI agent for the defense team suggested that it happened in the way you describe. For example he believes that Darlie was knocked out with something applied to that sock. He feels that it may be a chemical that's used for computers which can cause memory loss etc and dissipates quickly meaning it may have gone by the time the sock was tested.

Also Darlie complained to many family and friends that her mouth was really sore and had abrasions this was before Darlie was even aware they had even found a sock. I think that its very possible the sock was used to temporarily knock her out (as her DNA was found on the toe end) either by blocking her airways or as harrell suggests with some sort of chemical aid.

If as he suggests its a computer chemical it could further go towards the theory that Darin is the perp. However this is speculation as we do not have any evidence of this.

After they found the sock in the alley they had sniffer dogs trace the scent. The dog went from the scene to the area where the sock was found and the scent went dead there. This is consistent with a car driving off so if Darin is the perp it is certainly a possibility that he had someone park in the alley.

I do believe that its also a possibility it was one or two intruders. A lot of people point to the fact that why did they only give her a scratch and stab the boys deeply, like this does not happen. Unfortunately there are some very disturbed people out there who just like to kill for the thrill. They will come into your home and just kill you in your sleep look at Tommy Lynn Sells, Adam Leroy Lane etc. There are also many cases were children are the victims such as the Riley Fox murder, Jon Benet Ramsey, Logan Tipton, Dakota Lane, The Haynes family etc. These are just a few of the examples of where this could and does happen!

I recently came across the case of Chynna 26 and Blake Dickus 9 who were murdered in their home in Franklin. Blake seemed to be the target of the perps rage due to the nature of his injuries. Recently police have revealled new information surrounding the case. They thing it may be related to a string of burglaries in the area in which the perp gained entry by cutting screens in a distinctive T-Shape.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

joni, I just caught your comment, sorry. You are so right. I have always said when he talks about his dead sons he has no love in his voice for them or remorse that they have died. I don't see why so many cannot read him!


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Tara, all very interesting fact. I do think possibly someone else came in but I will always believe Darin was involved and behind it.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

Jackie yes I have been studying this case for years so have the photos transcripts etc happy to email you the documents DNA results etc if you would like?

I am very suspicious of Darin myself but I am cautious to judge peoples characters based on tv interviews.

After all I feel that's how Darlie ended up on Death row in the first place!

Having said that I feel there is alot more evidence against Darin than Darlie. What I have been curious about is the mixture of Devons and Damons blood found on the stair railings which was never explained. If Darin never attempted to help Damon why would both boys blood be on the railing?

There is also evidence of an intruder (wether that was set up by Darin I don't know) I.e bloody boot prints and impressions in the garage that James Chron informed linch was there already and to dismiss it. These impressions were in the utility room and in the garage leading to the screen (I have pics). Also the bloody fingerprints on the utility room door. They also found palm prints inside the window of the cut screen (exactly where frosch touched the window during the demonstration). They found another print on the sliding glass door outside. All these prints were never identified by cron in court(a bit rubbish for a fingerprint expert if you ask me).

There are pictures I have of the glass table that was supposedly never knocked over near Devon. How then did blood run down it it should have splattered if it landed on top of it?

There was also some bloody shoe impressions behind the couch were darlie slept which cron says are one of the emergency personnel without any pictures of overlays to support this just his word!

Prior to them collecting samples from the back gate and Garden there was also a rainstorm which you can read about in Charles linch and Kathryn Long testimony.


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fpherj48 5 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Jackie, Jackie, Jackie.........I'm back. Just guessing that this may be your most visited hub? It's a safe bet that it will continue to garner a lot of commenters. Of the hundreds of cases I have followed or had a crazed sort of interest in, I can't deny this one sticks in my craw like an annoying buzzing fly.

Like you, I can get so far into the scenario and I'll be damned if I don't repeatedly get stuck in a pool of wet concrete and find myself needing to back-up or just freeze in position. Frustration is the word I revisit over and over.

What a mental relief it would be to be able to firmly grasp the concept that this particular Mom was actually able to intentionally murder those 2 small, helpless & precious babies, in their home, as they slept like Angels, in the brutal & gruesome manner it was done~~~and then go further to severely (nearly killing) herself with a knife to the jugular. The amount of sheer desperation or insanity that would require is more than I am able to wrap my brain around. (I sound like a broken record......Ugh!) Then again, no more so than those who continually repeat like parrots over & over, "Darlie did it, no doubt, Darlie's guilty." In both cases Jackie, there's simply "something" extremely vital missing. MISSING....it's just not there for me.

I know I'll be back...............Paula


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

So true Paula and although as I have admitted I once saw Darlie as guilty too, once I started really looking at it I knew she did not and I will never be convinced that she did. As I have often said too, if she did you know it would have been total lunacy...in which case she should have been tried that way and then she would have already been set free by now I bet you!

This is the only case for me right now, the injustice of it will just not let me go.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

Sure, Tara I would love to take a look. Just email me at yahoo. Am having surgery tomorrow so will have some days I could give it a good study. Thank you!

Of course I cannot prove anything on Darin either and if I could I would! I believe him to have not an ounce of love or compassion for his wife (Darlie) or children, at best.


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fpherj48 5 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

If I was Darlie's Mother~~all these years I'd have been like an anchor around Darrin's neck.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

You know Paula it is unbelievable how close Darlie's mom and Darin were after she went to jail. I think he even moved in with her. Is Darlie Kee her name?Seems it is. Anyway I always wondered why she never suspected him but apparently she didn't and I have never heard that she has even now while Darlie has some doubts.

BTW this is far from my most read hub, but it is the most interesting to me!


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

Hey Jackie, you know just like you this case has driven me to distraction for years its always there i have sleepless nights and jump up to read transcripts or check evidence its craziness!

What i do not agree with is this notion that all people who think Darlie is innocent do so because they cannot come to terms with a mother killing her children! Its not that at all I have studied both Human and animal behavior and unfortunately the killing of a child by a parent (Filicide) is part of evolutionary history, a tool that Humans and animals use under extreme circumstances which is generally informed by subconscious motives relating to survival (i.e resources) and fitness (number of copies of genes passed on to the next generation).

Darlie had no motive at all and gained nothing from the death of those boys! If she were going to kill the kids because of resources for example she would have surely had to gain something i.e money. If this were the case she would have been better off killing Darin as he was insured for $1000,000. Say she did it cos she couldn't cope with the responsibility, was depressed and wanted to end her own and the kids life (THE STATES THEORY) why didn't she kill Drake why leave him alive, hes an infant it would take more to look after an infant than two nearly independent boys. Typically mothers who are pushed over the edge by Post Natal Depression for example tend to target the source of their pain i.e the newborn. If it was a homicide/suicide on Darlie's part than why would she go to such extremes?

wouldn't she just take some pills suffocate the boys with the many pillows she had access to and throat slitting as a means of suicide is very rare particularly in people with no history of self harming behaviors.

I personally don't feel its plausible and i do not think Darlie woke up one night and said to herself '' you know what, I'm a bit down, we've had a little less cash than previous months......I know what we solve my problems I'll kill my two eldest boys and slash my own throat, that will help matters!'' It just doesn't fit!

In terms of paternal filicide If anything we know Darin had motive, means and opportunity.

Motive could have been they had the argument that night and Darlie threatened to leave him. He was already stressed about his financial situation and was under pressure to pay for holidays his car breaking down etc. He went to bed really angry and decided he wasn't going to lose everything, she wasn't going to divorce him and take the boys! If they Darlie was dead he would get an insurance pay out of $250,000.00 for his troubles. He snapped crept down to the kitchen and took a bread knife from the block crept outside and slashed the screen(i do not believe that bread knife was even used to cut the screen). He goes back into the house puts the bread-knife back into the block and takes out a sharper knife. Using the sock he picked up on his way back from cutting the screen, He puts it over his hand and puts some computer fluid on it, he straddles Darlie shoves the sock over her face to knock her out and starts attacking her. Darlie at this moment may have woke up and started fighting before being overcome by the chemical and passing out. Meanwhile the Devon wake's up and sees him, He panics and stabs Devon and knocks the glass table on him dropping the knife on the carpet momentarily then realizes Damon is beginning to wake, Leaving Darlie for dead, or so he thinks! (Darlie is still passed out and bleeding from the slash in her neck). He frantically stabs Damon in the back in case he wakes up and recognizes him! and flees through the utility room knocking the glass from the rack as he goes! By this time Darlie is starting to become conscious again as she feels Damon pressing on her shoulder She sees a dark figure around glass coffee table (the one with fingerprint 85j on). She gets up still disoriented with Damon following behind her and begins to follow the figure when she hears a glass smash, as she reaches the rack she sees a man with long hair (like Darin but stockier) going out of the utility room door! Starting to become scared as the chemical wears off, Darlie goes back to turn the kitchen light on and notices a knife laying in between the kitchen and utility room on the floor and is compelled to pick it up. She comes back through the kitchen and places the knife on the counter and realizes Damon is bleeding!

She screams for Darin By this time he has already left via the nook(while Darlie went bk to turn on the light) and out the front door (Darlies statement said the front door was unlocked when she went to open it for first-res ponder). He dumps the sock down the alley he runs back through the front door takes off his trainers with Darlie's blood on and places them by the door and runs up the stairs (leaving Devon and Damon's blood on the banister). He then acts as if he has just run downstairs!

This scenario is more plausible than the first scenario but much of the DNA does not support this! Also the man seen outside by officer Waddell could not have been Darin if Darlie is adamant that Darin came down the stairs before the officer arrived. Also the 911 tape supports this that Darin was inside the home when the officer arrived. I have studied eye witness testimony and it could be that the neighbor had seen Darin come out of the house when Sgt Walling arrived (after all they are all just cops if he were looking from his bedroom window across the road).


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fpherj48 5 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Tara.....I found your lengthy comment makes a lot of sense in most of your suppositions. I think this case haunts people like myself, you, Jackie and so many others because we look so deeply into every speck of the event, before & after. We also come from our status as mothers.

Of course the reality is that parents kill their children. We all need to accept this ugly & deeply disturbing fact of life. But like some of what you bring up, I see far too much pointing in the opposite direction where Darlie is concerned. Off the cuff, just to mention one thing that I don't believe was brought up.....Women who kill (in particular their children) rarely if ever use a "weapon of bloody violence.....eg, gun, knife)....Pills, pillows or drowning are the chosen methods for women. Also~~This is HUGE~~as vain as Darlie was about her appearance, the last thing she would have done is slash her throat. People just don't "think" about these things but they should!


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

That is sort of how I picture it too Tara, that whoever killed the boys were really just after Darlie for the insurance and the boys woke. I think it is a very good chance Darin had it done because of the possible rape attempt instead of doing himself but you could be right that once his boys started screaming or trying to help their mother he did and I would believe that 98% more than Darlie doing it for all the reasons you mention and too as I have always said, if she did indeed snap and did this then she should have had an insanity plea. She would have gotten treatment an be out well before now I think if she had.

Agreeing with Paula too I have always said Darlie would not slaughter herself up more that most women and even most women would not do that. That takes a real psycho.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

Hi both, I agree with you Paula in that mothers who kill will use less violence however there are some that do and I believe would be mire closely related to those suffering from psychosis!

If Darlie snapped Jackie then we are likely talking psychosis! If this were the case not only would she have been treated different in the legal system as you say Jackie, but she probably would have been in a psychotic state when first responders arrived! You don't get psychosis one minute and then your completely fine the next.

As for the neck wound I agree with you both this narcissistic self absorbed materialistic vain person would slash her own throat where you can see it! Its complete rubbish!

Suicidal throat slashing is very rare and generally found in people with a severe history of self harm and depression. Nearly all these cases the wound is across the neck at a slight angle with hesitation marks present! There are none of these in Darlies wound! So we are to believe that a women that has no history of self harm managed to do such a terribly painful thing to herself without any hesitation marks at all! Its ridiculous


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

True, Tara and possibly only lived because of a necklace. It really is so horrible what she is going through and worse that she believed Darin so many years like he was right there for her and what normal wife wouldn't want to believe that?

I think she is on the right path now in her train of thoughts but how much pain now realizing he was more than likely to blame for it all.


Tara De Courcey 5 months ago

Hi Jackie, I hope ur op went well.

Yes I believe that necklace saved her life.

I think your right that she now has doubts about Darins involvement.

However I feel that this is more to do with the robbery set up rather than he wielded the knife!

Many people believe she knew about the set up and refer to the 911 call when she supposedly said nothings touched according to the state. Kathy Cruz however has the independent analysis on her web page and the analyst suggests that she says iv been cut darin!


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Jackie Lynnley 5 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I would hate to think she had anything to do with it (the break-in gone bad) and I thought I read that when in the past this break in he had planned was brought up at her mom's house was it with her step dad? That she was upset about it? But I have been reading so much now for so many years and all of this is hearsay I suppose.


TaraUpchurch 4 months ago

Darlie is innocent. I'm praying for her and her son. So much about this case is messed up, I mean for the lead detective and court reporter to plead the fifth after so many mistakes! She deserves that federal appeal.. I would not want to be the person helping in her execution, she's innocent and I stand by that. She should be able to hug her son and her sister and mother. It's sad that she was near death herself and never got to fully grieve for the loss of her boys before she was arrested.


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fpherj48 4 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Tara.....Every time I get close to putting this case to the back of my mind, I'll be darned if I don't see that someone commented on Jackie's hub. I'm glad it was you, so I needn't repeat what I've said in the past.

Have you heard or read somewhere that Darlie may be granted an appeal? I haven't been able to find any news at all.

Here we are, total strangers to this family and yet I feel so compelled to keep hoping. I can't begin to imagine what Darlie goes through and am amazed she hasn't lost her mind entirely all these years.

If this turns out to be an egregious miscarriage of justice, it will blow the top off so many aspects of the judicial system, the investigators, legal personnel and the HUNDREDS of people who have allowed this case to become a part of their lives. Actually, there have been cases even older than this one where a conviction has been over-turned on appeal.

One very high profile case here in my own state of NY, I can think of, "The Marty Tankleff" case was just such a case. I nearly lost MY mind over that one! I was so involved in that I hate to even think back on it. I wrote several letters and articles back then.

I swear, that case was so very corrupt and frustrating, it was a huge jubilant celebration State-wide when Marty was exonerated. The best part is that he is now an Attorney who defends the wrongly convicted.

If you should have the time, I think you might like to research that case. Be prepared to be appalled and literally thrown off kilter as you read up on that case!! A complete & utter miscarriage and gross misconduct......blatant lies and cover-up by law enforcement & even prosecutors and judge!!

Sorry...can you tell I seriously get into cases like these. I'm too aware that as wonderful as our court system is, it's also just as corrupt and unforgivable......That's just the way it goes. Paula


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Jackie Lynnley 4 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

That is so true Tara, I totally agree. I think she really only made it through because she thought her husband loved her and was helping her when in reality he was not at all, but that is hard to see when in such an emotional state.


TaraUpchurch 4 months ago

I saw on death row stories last weekend that she lost the first two appeals but is waiting to see if she is granted her federal appeal. It makes me crazy too, I follow this case closely...I hope one day I'm there when she is let out and all the idiots that had her locked up have to answer for all the mistakes made.


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Jackie Lynnley 4 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

They will never have to answer and only a miracle will get her anything since they know how guilty they are and so does everyone else.

Texas is famous for their false imprisonments and having to pay out millions when they get caught, this time seems to be against Darlie though.


JezMyOpinion 4 months ago

Jackie, a lot of misinformation here. Darlie herself invited the press to fill her gleefully spraying the SS. If there had been a solemn memorial where Darlie grieved they would have shown it over the last 2 decades. DNA from June 2015 prove her guilt again. The finger print her fanbots claim to be an intruder is too smudged to be IDd but Darlie has not been ruled out as it is small enough to be hers or Damons. She is beyond guilty. She claimed for 19 years that it was NOT Darin but now, as the end draws near, she's trying to lay the blame on him. Hope he finally tells what she did that night after they had the huge row.


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Jackie Lynnley 4 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

I know there was other video Jez with her crying because I saw it where she is leaning on her sister's shoulder and I believe all this was done illegally anyway if I am not mistaken and why policemen took the 5th. We will just all believe what we believe and I have always gotten bad vibes from Darin and if you ever hear him talk about his dying boys you know something is not right about him.


belindaf3 4 months ago

So true Jacky Lynnley!! The part where Darlie is crying is illegally taped by the police! There is very tiny material out there where you can clearly see that she is mourning. I am convinced that Darin Routier got away with it! He had the best motive, he had the time. The part which still blows my mind is the part in the 911 call, where gets frustrated at 05:20 minutes: ""Somebody who did it, intentionally walked in here Darin, there is nothing touched"" She says this because Darin is heard talking during that call, saying: ""They took and ran"" He was convincing everyone that this was an attempt Robbery going wrong!!


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Jackie Lynnley 4 months ago from The Beautiful South Author

You know I heard that belinda although others deny hearing it and the way it came across to me is he is saying they took something and looks and sees it is not taken! I think they were suppose to take something and maybe the kids being there and killing them and then Darling coming to when he thought she was dead has rushed him out. I think possibly Darin did not intend for the boys to die but then surely he knew they were there and in danger. Who knows? He sure never sounded like a grieving father to me.


SClemmons 4 weeks ago

Well written article, my compliments.

I've been studying this case in depth since it occurred and I have to admit I don't have a shed of doubt in my mind that Darlie did in fact murder her two boys.

She wasn't convicted because of the "silly string tape" and she wasn't convicted because of 33,000 transcripts errors, as Darlie Kee and others love to say over and over again. She was convicted by the forensic evidence and her illogical and inconsistent statements she made throughout the investigation and the trial.

I noticed a couple of people commenting on here (seemingly trying to pass themselves off as blood spatter experts) quoting information from Chris Brown's book. I certainly wouldn't consider his self-published book as being a credible source for information. It's full of misspellings, typographical errors, inaccuracies, and bizarre theories as to who killed Devon and Damon. With the photo's in the book of the boys lying in their own blood, stabbed to death with their eyes open, and the detailed photo's of their autopsies, I find it reprehensible that Darlie Kee was autographing these books and selling them on eBay. If she's trying to raise money for her daughters defense, maybe she ought to think about selling some of those Corvettes she takes to car shows all of Texas!


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Jackie Lynnley 4 weeks ago from The Beautiful South Author

What Darlie Kee does is her own conscience, I do not judge her on that and she is surely not guilty of anything but perhaps this is just the personalities of her and her daughter unlike some people but still no sign of guilt or wrong doing. We are all individuals and cannot expect everyone to be just like us, can we?

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