Obamacare- Favors For Holdout State Senators

Senator Harry Reid

Totally non-responsive to the will of the American people.
Totally non-responsive to the will of the American people.

Senator Harry Reid - King of Dirty Tricks?

Washington DC is in the midst of a terrible snowstorm and a snow emergency was declared at 7 AM this Saturday morning. That's not stopping Harry Reid for calling for a vote on the healthcare bill at 1 AM tonight, allowing the Senators the minimum requirement of 36 hours for the bill to be read. He had promised 72 hours, but following his traditional behavior his word meant nothing. The bill is 2074 pages, so the Senate must be full of speed readers for them to even have a clue as to what they are voting for or against. Maybe the snow is a sign from God? Nothing else has slowed them down to a reasonable pace, although it seems the snow won't interfere either.

Nebraska's Hero - Nelson

A clever poker player.
A clever poker player.

Sen. Ben Nelson, Nebraska -longest holdout

Last Tuesday Harry Reid urged the Senate to reject an amendment Ben Nelson proposed to ban abortion coverage in the health care bill for fear that it would scuttle the health care bill. Federal tax dollars are not supposed to be used to cover abortions. If this coverage remains in the bill it will end up in front of the Supreme Court as it goes against the language in Roe VS Wade.

How was Senator Nelson pressured or bribed to change his vote? Rumor has it a Senate aide stated that Obama threatened to put Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson didn't change his mind. Offutt is home of the 55th Wing, the Fighting' Fifty-Fifth and a variety of tenant units. Every branch of the military is represented with approximately 10,000 military and federal employees. This is the major defense of the northern half of the USA. So, we must conclude that Obama is willing to jeopardize our defense to get what he wants.

Next, the states of Nebraska,Vermont and others will receive special treatment that will cost all other states money, which means you the taxpayer. Nelson got a sweetheart deal for being the last holdout on the vote. The federal government will permanently pay 100 percent of the cost to expand Medicaid in Nebraska with no state input, That means FOREVER. And Mary Lamdrieu thought she got a good deal.

Vermont's Bernie Sanders

Claims not a sweetheart deal but it sounds pretty good to me.
Claims not a sweetheart deal but it sounds pretty good to me.

Senator Bernie Sanders- Vermont

A short time ago Bernie Sanders wasn't really on board with the die hard liberals, but suddenly he is all smiles and Vermont is smiling too. He is now in support of the bill and his state will receive additional Medicaid funding for six years and $10 billion for communtiy health centers. Now, he has something to crow about while the rest of the states will absorb the extra taxes. That's right, You and Me Again!

Senator Mary Landrieu

A happy woman who pulled off the second Louisiana purchase.
A happy woman who pulled off the second Louisiana purchase.

Democrats Ignore American People's Opposition to Health Care Bill

Louisiana Puchase II

Louisiana is another one of those fortunate states. They will be receiving $100 million supposedly to help Katrina victims and blah, blah, blah. Senator Harry Reid himself drafted this complicated bill in language that no one understands. This money was orginally earmarked for all those affected by Katrina, which would include Mississippi, Alabama and a portion of Florida. Another vote was soundly purchased.

View on How Americans Feel About the Bill

Republicans on the News

Republican are vowing to do everything they can to stop this bill. It was not done in a bipartisan fashion, not was it even available for the Republicans to see until now. It was hardly transparent! I have not even listed all the deals that I've read about. Polls clearly show Americans are against this bill. The bill cuts Medicare, Hospice, and Home Health Care to name just a few.

The methods used to obtain votes are so underhanded I can't even think of printable words to describe by distain. I hope all of these Senators know they probably don't have a shot at being re-elected, no matter how much tarp money gets thrown out next year to create jobs and boast the economy. You'd better believe they have a plan to win their seats back and more. I don't ever remember an administration that was this underhanded.

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eovery 6 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

These guys are nothing put crooks. This is getting to becoming very offensive to us, the people.

Thanks for keeping us informed.

Keep on hubbing!


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breakfastpop 6 years ago

Great informative and powerful hub. The Senate Democrats are behaving like irresponsible vindictive children. What an absolute disgrace.


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Tom Whitworth 6 years ago from Moundsville, WV

Pamela,

The real kicker to all the health care bills will be if they pass a mandatory bill with no public option. If this occurs, the scene wil be set for a Supreme Court battle which will declare it unconstitutional for the mandate for buying a private insurance plan. However the frame work will be in place and taxes will have been collected so the public option will re-appear as the only mandatory option.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Pop and Tom, thank you for your comments. Tom, I think you are exactly right about the outcome and I think there is no doubt that they will pass this bill. They all ought to be flogged!


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Roberta99 6 years ago

Pamela, You have written very powerful words. I have said right along, evil personified. It is downright scary. They do not care what the majority of the people think.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Roberta, Thank you so much for your comment. I think we are all afraid of what will happen in the future at this time.


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ehern33 6 years ago

Pamela, it is a disgrace and I fear that more is to come. This administration is the "In your Face" type. Hopefully the people will be in "their face" come 2010 we just can't forget between now and then. They will spin it and many will beleive it. I can't believe anything this administration does.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Eheren, I hope so too. Many times people's memorys are too short or they go back to that what choice did we have? Thanks for stopping by.


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someonewhoknows 6 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

This kind of politics epitomises how our government works.Not only in the federal government.All we need do is look back at how the former governor of Illinois who was put out of office because he was accused of making much the same deals as they do in the congress,and the presidents administration with his czar appointments,although when they do it,it's considered proper.


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SweetiePie 6 years ago from Southern California, USA

The bill was bipartisan because a few Republican senators want to stand in the way of helping Americans without insurance. I would have liked to have seen a strong and solid public option, but at least this bill is a starting point!


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

TO Someone who knows, Thank you for your comment and you are exactly right in my opinion.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

SweetiePie, I don't think you understand what bipartisan means and you might want to look it up in the dictionary. That would mean the two parties would have worked together and come up with a bill that would have worked for all concerned. Instead the democrates drafted this bill behind closed doors which will immediately start taxing everyone, including small businesses, etc. and no one will receive any health care for years. The healthcare was never designed by them to be effective until 2013!!!! How is that going to help you. Then the sweetheart deals for certain states means that if you happen to live in Ohio, or Tennessee your taxes will be helping Nevada, Nebraska, Vermont to name just a few. Plus the Republican were given only 36 hourse to read 2074 pages instead of the 72 which our lying Sentor Reid promised. Even that amount of time is ludicrous. Everyone knows healthcare needing fixing but in a constitutional, fair way.


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SweetiePie 6 years ago from Southern California, USA

I do not need to look up bipartisian. I made a typo, and I am an intelligent woman with a master's degree. One in education and another in history. Stop talking down to people, and I could probably teach you quite a few things, such as how your standing against health care is wrong. No this was no bipartisan, and thank God. The Republican senators against health really do not care about the American people. They care about the get packs they receive from special interest groups, and that is about it! They do not understand low income people in Los Angeles County cannot afford to go to the ER, and even if they are admitted this bills will financially bankrupt them.


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SweetiePie 6 years ago from Southern California, USA

I just realized people that write hubs like yours like to put liberal Americans down. My education level is very high, and your speaking down to people is not flattering on your part. Actually the Democrats gave in way too much to the Republicans by giving up the public option, and many of us want it. Yes, the majority of Americans want health care reform, and many of those Americans support the public option!


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someonewhoknows 6 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

Sweetie pie, what makes the liberal Democrats in congress any different from the republicans conservitives when it comes to sweetheart deals? The only difference is what side of the isle they come from and their constituants.A liberal duck is no different from a conservitive duck,they aren't what their all quacked up to be.


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SweetiePie 6 years ago from Southern California, USA

Believe it or not Liberal Congress representatives often have the American interests at heart, and conservatives are just worried about making the insurance companies happy. I am not worried that you do not see the difference, but as a conservative I know you think you can say the two are the same, but they are definitely not. Believe it or not I think if Ted Kennedy were still alive this health care debate would have been less ugly as he would have helped many conservatives to see the light on this one!


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Now who is talking down to whom? I also have a master's degree and as a registered nurse I am very concerned about the quality of healthcare in this country. We need to fix the problems in a bipartisan fashion taking time to consider the consequences of each new tax or program. I have spent a lot of time researching and reading about this problem. There is corruption on both sides of the fence. We are all aware of that and quite frankly I am not particularly happy with either political party. The fact is in every poll I've seen, Amercians are against this bill. It was done in an underhanded way by pushing it through to a 1 AM vote with special deals for several states. There was no reason to hurry except our president didn't want politicians to go home for Christmas and hear from all their constituents.


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TnFlash 6 years ago from Tampa, Florida

Pamela, Great Hub! This bill is so stupid. It was sold as a bill to help American Citizens get better health care. The only group that benefits from this bill is the Health Insurance companies. I voted for Obama because he was going to change the way things were done in Washington. Sadly, I have seen only business as usual in Washington. Politicians seem to be in Washington to not represent their constituents but their political party. This has got to end. What happened to a government of the people by the people and for the people.

TnFlash


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

TnFlash, Thanks for your comment. Your last remark say it all. I voted for Sen. Bill Nelson of FL looking for change and he has also been a huge disappointment to me. Live and learn I guess.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

Pamela

Great hub.

It makes you wonder about what Obama meant by changing Washington. I guess we should all take a primer course on Political English, so that we can understand election jibberish.

We might have had a clue in that the word "changing" didn't have an adjective or an object, to determine whether the change would be positive or negative, or even improved ormade worse.

Congress calls what they do as a negotiation, but when it is done in the private sector, it is a crime called corruption or fraud. The problem is that Congress puts itself above the laws that it creates for us.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

OpinionDuck, (love than name) I couldn't agree with you more. Thank for the comment.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

My pleasure Pamella


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hglick 6 years ago from Ronkonkoma, NY

Ughhhh, How can anyone defend this mess. They draw up legislation behind closed doors without allowing anyone outside of their own corrupt lot to look at this bill. They don't allow any input from the other side, and people continue to ask where are the Republican ideas?? When people refuse to be intellectually honest and are poisoned by lies. they can not possibly defend themselves with their education level.

Here is an excerpt from Dick Morris' column:

Obama’s health care bill, the poisoned Kool-Aid making its way through the Senate, will not confer any of its supposed benefits on Americans until 2013. But they will find themselves chafing at its restrictions and paying its taxes immediately after the law takes effect. Then, they will see no gain, but plenty of pain, for the next three years.

This odd juxtaposition of “suffer now, benefit later” is the byproduct of the Administration’s sleight of hand in specifying ten years worth of cuts and taxes in the legislation, but deferring its benefits for the first four years. By comparing six years of spending with ten years of taxing, it managed to appear deficit neutral under the rules of the Congressional Budget Office. In fact, the annual revenues fall far short of covering any single year’s worth of spending, adding to the deficit for each of the last six years over the next ten, but, viewing the decade as a whole, it appears deficit neutral.

Yet the political price is hardly neutral. Democrats who misguidedly vote for this monstrosity will face immediate political repercussions.

The harshest of these backlashes will come from the elderly who will suddenly visit their doctors and be told “no” when they ask for therapies or treatments. The rationing of medical care will start immediately on enactment and, one hopes, the outraged phone calls will start to descend on those whose votes enabled it.

The first “no” will hit the ten million elderly who now rely on Medicare Advantage to pay for the care Medicare itself does not cover. In a payoff to AARP, Obama gutted this program in his bill, ending over $100 billion in federal premium subsidies. These ten million voters will get the grim news that their premiums are going up and their benefits dropping early in 2010. The goal, of course, is to force them to drop Medicare Advantage and sign up, instead, for Medigap insurance — offered, not coincidentally, by the AARP — which provides less coverage at higher cost.

Young people without health insurance can expect to start writing $750 annual checks to Washington to pay the fines written into the bill. (And, after the Conference Committee finishes its work, the fines may be higher).

All Americans will soon find their insurance premiums rising as a result of the bill. The young, uninsured will not buy policies. Why should they? Why not just pay the $750 fines each year? Why pay between 2% and 10% of their household income before subsidies kick in? It makes no financial sense for anyone making more than $30,000 to pay for coverage. (And most of those under that threshold will be covered by Medicaid, not by private insurance).

There is no reason for the young to buy private insurance. The legislation requires that health insurers take all comers and not raise rates based on pre-existing conditions. So the young can get coverage when they need it, having only paid $750 per year beforehand.

The difference in cost will, of course, be borne by families throughout America who will see their health insurance premiums increase. President Obama and his Democratic rubber stamps may appreciate that they are not raising taxes on the middle class, just raising mandatory health insurance premiums, but the distinction is likely to be lost on swing voters.

From now on, any increase in health insurance premiums will become the political responsibility of the Obama Administration. As General Colin Powell once said of Iraq “You break it. You own it.” Since these premiums have been rising by an average of 10% per year for more than the past decade, this is a legacy most politicians would sensibly avoid if they could.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

hglick, Thanks for your comment. I like to hear what Dick Morris has to say about various political issues. He's a very smart man. Your comments are right on and now we have to live with the rotten bill.


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Whitacus 6 years ago from WA

Pamela hit the nail on the head with 'CONSEQUENCES'. Something liberals, and most politicians today hardly take the time to think about (in fact it's a trend with the younger generation). Everything is do it now, hear the praise, bathe in the encore, deal with the sh*tstorm later. OR better yet, take a 2 week ciesta and let someone else clean it up.

Another fashion I hate about this whole deal, as an American citizen, I'd really like to know exactly what's going down when these decisions are being made. Do you really think if we were all a fly on the wall during these 'backroom talks' any of us would be supporting this 'reform'? This isn't a matter of national security, it's freakin' healthcare! It's time we start demanding a little more information on these life changing decisions these boneheads are making for us. I'm sick and tired of feeling powerless.

Great hub Pamela!


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Whitacuse, Welcome to my hub and thank you so muxh for your comment. I guess they consider us stupid, like we won't remember their shenanigans when election time rolls around.


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dohn121 6 years ago from Hudson Valley, New York

Welcome to the Unites States Socialist Republic! (USSR II) This is awful. Such underhanded tactics and blackmailing isn't very democratic is it? Thank you for shedding light on this topic, Pamela99. We're definitely going in the wrong direction.


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Chuck 6 years ago from Tucson, Arizona

Good Hub. Thanks for the information and the great YouTube video.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Thanks Chuck. I learned some new things from your hub also.


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Hi-Jinks 6 years ago from Wisconsin

The Senate Health Care Bill would not my first pick. But it is a known fact that the Republicans would never fix health care in this country. Under current care, Tiny Tim would die from his pre-existing condition.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

Thank you for this expose, Pamela. You've done us a service with this Hub. I am very surprised the whole country is not in an uproar over this whole thing. I guess Aldous Huxley was right in 1932 when he said the nation would become sheep controlled by happy pills—pharmaceuticals.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

James, It's so nice to hear from you. I hope Huxley wasn't right but it makes you wonder. I heard someone talking about Atlas Shrugged the other day which is a book I read many years ago. I was impressed with it so I remember it fairly well. The problem is there is no place to take all the good people and start anew. I think it was Colorado they went to and it's not longer empty! Ah well, I guess I'll just keep hubing.


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XtineTheWriter 6 years ago from Shoreline of Lake Erie, Pennsylvania

Pamela99, haven't you been following health care deliberations on C-Span? Oh that's right, the "transparency" promise never came to fruition. It's tough to get those C-Span cameras past those tightly closed doors to keep the citizenry informed.


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FitnezzJim 6 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

I noted a Senator from Louisiana speaking to the Senate on Cable yesterday that was appalled at being accused of having her vote bought for this bill. She claims that she had numerous letters from her state seeking her help for Katrina, and that her constituency was for the health care bill. I couldn't help but wonder how many of them had actually read it prior to that vote.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Jim, I think these politicians are sometimes like little children and just say whatever lie sounds the best to them at the time. I don't think anyone had time to read over 2000 pages in 3 days. Thank you for your comment.


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Ben Zoltak 6 years ago from Lake Mills, Jefferson County, Wisconsin USA

My conservative cousin and I argue about the how's and why's of the health care debacle, but we can both see eye to eye on one thing at least: the healthcare system as it is does not work for most people and needs to be changed. Although I don't agree with some of the changes(like the special treatment you've pointed out here Pamela) I do applaud those politicians of the left and right who are working to try something new. I especially hope to see a repeal of the health care industries exemption from anti-monopoly legislation. I also expect regulation for high powered $250,000/hour corporate health care execs, they had their third, fourth and fifth chances to self govern and failed, it's time for regulation. I feel strongly about this, good topic, I enjoyed the details you've fleshed out.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States Author

Ben, You made some excellent points. Health care needs an overhaul for sure. There are many positive things I think they can do, but I don't want to see another big government run failure. I think they can change laws to allow small businesses and people to group together and get good rates, sell across state lines, eliminate any preexisting exemption, no limit on money when needed for further care and and no some type of tort reform. I appreciate your comments. Thank you.


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wba108@yahoo.com 4 years ago from upstate, NY

It's shooking how the American people have been bamboozled by Obamacare. The deception Americans have surcome to is frightening. The blantant corruption and trampling of the Constitution is there for everyone to witness yet there are so many who just seem oblivious! I believe their are evil spiritual forces behind these type actions of government that want to crush freedom and the Christian foundations of America. Getting hold of God is our only recourse!


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Pamela99 4 years ago from United States Author

WBA108, I trust God each day and for my future. I sure am concerned for the future of our country. I wrote this hub a long time ago, but things have really gotten worse. Thanks for your comments.


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Nick Hanlon 4 years ago from Chiang Mai

Put the bill to an internet referendum of the people.But then that would be too democratic for some people.


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Pamela99 4 years ago from United States Author

Nick, So true. Thanks for your comments.


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poetryman6969 19 months ago

If you look at the number of special exemptions, special rules, tax and fee deferrals you have to wonder at the notion that universal health care is in fact, universal.


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Pamela99 18 months ago from United States Author

poetryman, I would have to agree with you. I wrote this hub quite a while ago, but so much has not changed for the better. Of course, we have to look at Congress also as they so many things could be improved, but politics seems to always be a problem.

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