Does Charity come with a Price?

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There are many charities all over the world that are famous for going far out of their way to help the disenfranchised, the down-trodden, the unfortunate, the ignorant, the innocent, the poor, the oppressed, the starving, the victims of war. These Charitable Organizations are seen as largely helpful and simply trying to bring hope and salvation to these affected people. Their Charity knows no bounds and seems to have no hidden conditions attached. Or at least, that’s what they want you to believe.

What? I hear you cry. There’s another side to this story? Another angle we haven’t been privy to? Ask yourself this question – is all charity unconditional? In other words, is it given with no conditions attached? That depends on the charity and its religious intent. Okay, some Charities are not religious, there are Foundations and they just give Charity where it is needed. This is not an attack on the religious. The truth is, some charity is given to the less well off based on religious reasons and less on need. Why?

Because some charitable volunteers give out loaves of bread with the one hand and give out bibles with the other. So is that right? Charities giving out charity but trying to religiously convert and recruit the very people the Charity is helping. Imagine being there listening to a priest asking a poor woman why does she pray? Asking her who does she pray to? What deity exactly is that? And don’t they know there is only one GOD? Some charities want to save, but at a price. They seem to want the person’s soul too. But surely when a charity is helping the underprivileged, it is better and more morally acceptable not to take advantage of their position? Or better not to take advantage of their ignorance. Is this kind of charity just a way of spreading a gospel? Making a religious “sale”? A conversion. Do the poor need someone giving them faith? Aren’t some people entitled to be Atheists if they want to? Do Atheists get charity? What about Agnostics? Do donations apply to them too?

These are sandals made from water-bottles...
These are sandals made from water-bottles...

Or is being charitable and giving aid a way to “own” them, “control” them. A loaf of bread and then a sermon? Didn’t Cecil Rhodes all those years ago march into Rhodesia (later named after him in his honor), a once backward country which he supposedly pitied and gave charity and food with one hand and bibles with the other? The same Cecil Rhodes who then went on to possess and own the people religiously and the country materially, and wasn’t he the one involved in one of the richest firms in the world – the De Beers Diamond company? Wasn’t that charity really just a kind of Imperialism? A way of colonizing people? And isn’t most charity just doing the same? Religious imperialism continuing its way through the poor countries of the world. Is it fair or appropriate to use charity as a means to gains? Just why are charities so intent on converting people? Is the service of the poor in the end just a scam? How should that affect the way we donate to Charity?

Thankfully there are honest charities who are not really interested in giving out bibles, they are only interested in Social Justice for the people they are helping. An example would be a Foundation.

Why not just give charity and leave it at that? Since when did faith have to enter this equation? Since some Aid groups belong to some faith, is that a disadvantage? The idea of bread and bibles being given to the weak and then proselytizing to them in their time of need, however, seems incompatible with our definition of Charity or Help for that matter. Is there a kind of colonialism happening by stealth in some charities? Haven’t there been problems with some faiths poaching some believers in other faiths? By implying that they were worshiping a false God? Where are we going with this? Isn’t this treading on very dangerous ground?

Some charities admit that they do give out Bibles and other religious material. But some others just give charity. Some charities stand for Social Justice and seek to make the world a fairer and more just place. Some have admirable records. Some however, insist on handing out Bibles and telling where the charity comes from. The author and broadcaster Mathew Paris famously once said “Africa needs God”, which is a surprising comment from a man who is an Atheist.

Didn’t the Vatican get into trouble in Africa by telling people that for religious Catholic reasons, they should not wear Condoms as they were unholy and against God’s wishes? And this is a country with the highest Aids rate on Earth! Do some people in Africa need that kind of charity or help, even though it runs counter to all common sense and medical opinion? Are Religious Charitable Organizations really being helpful to people like this or are the charities in question just trying to see how stupid some people are? Is this tantamount to rubbing people's noses in it? It sounds like someone is having a laugh....

A whole family out for the day, all sharing the one bike...
A whole family out for the day, all sharing the one bike...

Also of concern is the reluctance of some charities to share their charity with other charities where there is a separate religious belief system. In a place where a tragedy has occurred and help is needed, and people may wish to donate to a good cause. Yet people have to be sensitive to people’s existing religious belief and culture. There doesn’t seem to be much of an appetite for international agreement in this sphere. This is surprising – given the issues we are all dealing with. This could be revised as charities could make an enormous difference where there are compatible aims between charities, i.e. – a desire to help others unconditionally, without the normal one-up-manship and competition. It does seem like a form of one-up-manship sometimes. To be arguing these points here when people’s lives hang in the balance seems like sheer lunacy. The Poverty and misery that people face is what needs attention, not some religious belief system or archaic argument.There is a clear chicken and egg scenario here. The Egg, the symbol of life clearly comes first.

The business of giving charity ought to be a simple one, yet it is a complex one.

It is simple, but it is certain people who have complicated it.

It is sometimes seen as conditional giving and in some ways religiously interfering with some other faiths, hence reluctance to share charity amongst groups. Secularism plays its part in charity too. It seems that there is an answer to the question – when is a charity not just a charity? When it is also sometimes a faith based group or church. Giving out bread and bibles is not always a good idea. When a charity tells a starving man he cannot have the bread without the bible and a sermon, then there is something seriously wrong. Meanwhile the world has people in dire need of help and assistance from people like us who thankfully are willing to share what they have with others out of the decency of their hearts. Now if the charities will just let that happen, that will be really nice!

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Laying it out plain and simple

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Darlene Sabella 6 years ago from Hello, my name is Toast and Jam, I live in the forest with my dog named Sam ...

Wow, this is such a powerful hub and I agree with you. We all need to help in some way, and for me I, when I was younger, always was involved in local needs, local people. Even a neighbor, or friend in need. Whilst all our funds leave the country, we have so much need here. Thanks for a fantastic hub my friend...


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Darlene! I have been reading about you lately, the Hub people did an interview with you! Great read! Thanks for this comment too! Yes, my angst gets a bit ott some times when something bugs me! I just wished some people would butt out and let the people who want to help get on with it. You have had an interesting life, Darlene. Best wishes to you! : )


TattoGuy 6 years ago

I agree with Darski a very powerful hub, jeeez I complain about being skint but when I saw that photo of the whole family on the bicycle it made me feel a very rich man, deff we should all be greatful for what we have. Brilliant hub, rated up xox


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello TattoGuy: Nice Picture you got here! Suits you! : ) Yes, the bike foto is interesting. I don't know how so many people all fitted on it. Crap! My car can't carry that many people! Well, the subject is something that's close to my heart. I was actually writing another hub but this one kind of barged through and got out first. (If that makes any sense!) You call Darlene "Darski"? That's interesting. Cheers, moi friend. Always appreciate those rate-ups! : ) Have a good day today. XOXOX


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Susana S 6 years ago

What a great hub Cheeky Girl! You've certainly hit the nail on the head with this one. Personally, I only give to non religious charities for this very reason. Taking advantage of people in need by foisting religious doctrine on them is sick. It reminds me of when I was a young single mum. I was always getting the Jehovahs and Mormons knocking at my door trying to convert me, lol. They saw me as vulnerable and tried to capitalise on that. Little did they know!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Susana: Great to see your comments here! I can hardly blame you given what I wrote above. Oh, you got the conversion treatment, haw? That goes around a lot here too. Well, I am glad you are not not vulnerable or got taken in by it. But I would always gladly give to a good cause. Though people are being more cautious now, all the same. Thanks for the comments, moi friend!


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entertianmentplus 6 years ago from United States

I give to religious charities and pray the do the right thing.Very good hub.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy entertianmentplus: Well, you deserve kudos for that, moi friend. I am impressed! Cheers, thanks for the comments! : )


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Astra Nomik 6 years ago from Edge of Reality and Known Space

Hy Cassy, Omg, the forum looks amazing. Did you tell Art? I love this hub! I am glad you wrote this. The kid with the vulture waiting behind is kind of scary. I totally think charity comes with a price, but only if you let it come with the price. Powerful stuff here. You are wasted in finance. You should be working in the Charitable Giving or Campaign business areas, you have the attitude and passion for it. :)

Love! XXXOXXX


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sweetie1 6 years ago from India

Hi cheeky girl, first of all thanks for leaving comments on my hubs and i m sorry i haven't been active here. About this hub well there is no such thing as free lunch. Everything has to be paid back. SO atleast people in India are not convinced that the Christian churches or charities are really doing any charity here because they always try to convert ( again pls donot take offence on this truth.. esp Christians of India). Yes what you said in your hub is right. Even when countries help each other they would expect their vote in UNO or some other things. So babe nothing is free in this world.


dreamreachout 6 years ago

Hey, as we know it in India, charity is just a form of business, unholy that too!! One collects millions in donations and distribute a few blankets to the poor or few strings of old clothes and enjoy the rest of the big figure!! Yes, taking good videography, calling in the media during the event or getting a celebrity to the occasion is only a part of the game!! Charity is the most unholy business in the world!!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Astra: whew, ease it back, will you? Ya giving me a big head here. I love my job too much to bother with anything else. My heart goes out to anyone working selflessly in this area. It takes a special kind of person. But there is too much expectation of something in return, even for a charity. Charity should be about "Giving" - it should be one way, not a 2-way deal. The 2-way thing, that's a contract, or a memorandum of agreement. That is nothing to do with charity as I know it.

You nailed it there when you said "Charity comes with a price only if you let it come with a price..." Cheers, Cathy. People need to know that more. xx

To Sweetie: Hello moi friend! We were wondering where you got to. But that's okay! That's all the other stuff outside of hubs we call "life"! Heh! I am so glad you said this! And no, I am not in the least bit offended. You make a good point. There's always something they are looking for in return. It's that "agreement", that "contract" thing again. That fudge that gets put on people. That obligation put upon them, and people are waking up to it, and I am glad. You are right, Sweetie. Nothing comes free. Charity does seem to come with some price. Cheers for you comments, moi friend. Glad to see you back! ; )


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy dreamreachout: Charity is a business, and very profitable. There's an Irish-American charity set up by some Irish newspaper mogul, and the current head of the charity gets $600K per year. That's more than Barack Obama gets. We are talking stupid piles of money here. That's all somebody's donations going into some guy's pocket.

There's a new Auto scam that is charity based going round at the moment too. It all gives charity a bad name. We had it here in the UK with our banks, then the politicians expenses, then graft happening in charities. What next, I shudder to ask? You make a good point about the media too, who are easily bought over, since they have to sell their news too. So it's a mutual appreciation society in a way.

Yes, Charity sure does come with some price. I wonder what the price is? What it's worth? If I could figure that, I would do another hub on that very subject...

Thanks for some nice thought-provoking comments here. Cheers!


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Micky Dee 6 years ago

This is a very good hub. All comments are valid. I do love that bicycle. It looks like 9 are getting a "free ride". Thanks!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Micky Dee: Thanks for that, moi friend! I love that bike too. Reminds me of the Tricycles in Manila in the Philippines. Bit different, but interesting. Appreciate the comments. Cheers.


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vrajavala 6 years ago from Port St. Lucie

right. guess it's not really charity. It5hink in India they call it a "rice conversion", because the person becomes a Christian to get some food.

One really has to watch religious fanatics of all types.


TattoGuy 6 years ago

Yer Forum is cool Cassy but tis not like wat I have planned, I am currently designing it and wen I get it off the ground in 3 weeks I want you and Cathy to run it with me, jeez I have the best name for it as well to attract traffic but all will be revealed but I want you and Cathy in it with me, yer my girls ; ) xox


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alexandriaruthk 6 years ago from US

you write with passion and with care. I like the way you think! it is imperialism to some extent! my twin sis said I read you as you are a good writer hehe, My cheeky, Thank you BTW, HUGS!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy vrajavala: I understand what you mean, and yes, my friend Cathy told me about the "rice conversion" thing. That is such a weird name for it. But some countries have worse names for it than that. Yes, you are right, and thank you for the comments! Cheers!

Hy Art! Glad you had a look. If you like, and if you wanted, I could set up another one and let you have a tour around the inside of it, the set-ups are very simple and interesting, if you wished. But is no problem. I have to do some advertising to get people into it, but it's really an experiment to see can it work. Wow, what you are doing sounds great. Let us / me know when you are ready. I would be happy to help out. I appreciate the offer, and accept too, and thank you for that. Cathy might be getting over the hump of an exam or two but she'll be okay. Much obliged, moi Capitan! ; ) XOXOX

Hello alexandriaruthk: Well here you are, and aren't you the lucky one with your win on the Health Hub Challenge! Well I am double glad you won, and I read one today and I enjoyed it! You are a great writer! I mean that! You put a lot of work into those hubs! I have seen your other work outside of hubs. You are wise to think big!

Aw, thank you, that's a nice thing to say. Well, yes, I do have the passion thing. Everyone tells me that. Imperialism is a good word for it. I am impressed that people are aware of this phenomenon. That's good. Yes, please give my regards to your good twin - she is very sexy - tell her that! LOL! (I'm just teasing here!) Aw, thank you for the hugs! I'm getting lots of these lately! *hugs you back* You take care. I am always glad to help a friend. ; )


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2patricias 6 years ago from Sussex by the Sea

This is an interesting Hub. As far as we know, the 'big name' (in the UK) Christian charities like Christian Aid give on the basis of need. However, when giving to any charity we think it is important to do some research and find out where your money really is going. Some charities are not well run and a lot of money goes to admin costs, others really don't do what you think the might with the money. There is a lot of need in the world, and a limited amount of money to give away - make sure you put your money where it is most needed.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy 2patricias: Thanks for the comments here. Yes, checking out the charity is also important. Some seem to spend more on themselves than they do on good causes, though there are good charities too, thankfully. People are being more careful with their money now today. Money can be a terrible temptation when given into the wrong hands, so there has to be great care when giving. As long as the charity and the giving does not come with unfair conditions, and the charity is honest, that's good. Cheers!


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Tammy Lochmann 6 years ago

Wow!...I have always researched a charity well before giving my money to them. I would just as soon give a beggar on the street the money than give it to an organization....I know all to well that most of the dollar I give that big charity goes to the CEO's or for overhead. More people need to be aware of this but they don't bother.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Tammy: Lots of people are researching and checking well before parting with their cash. Charities need to realise that people are always going to hold them to account for their actions, however good. Sadly yes, some of the money goes to the CEO instead of the more needy. I think dues to the financial uncertainty in the world, people are being more cautious and careful. Thanks for your comments, Tammy.


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theindianblues 6 years ago from Some where on the Globe

I don't see the father of that small nation which moves for a family outing on a single bike. Must be trying some where else to increase further of a new family. Gr8 Indian!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy theindianblues: Maybe they need to upgrade the bike to something bigger. Cheers, moi friend.


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stars439 6 years ago from Louisiana, The Magnolia and Pelican State.

Enjoyed your hub. It is a good thing to be careful when it involves charities to make sure your charity is doing what it was intended to do. God Bless You.


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

It's always a difficult thing when it comes to many of these charities, which one really has the ability to get to the people. If I'm going to donate I try and do my due dilligence to see that the charity goes directly to the recipient, rather than being funneled through governments—which is never effective, ESPECIALLY in under developed or poorer countries.

Great, and albeit sad, but informative hub Cheeky Girl.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello stars439: I read your hubs earlier today and was very impressed by your writing. Thank you for your kind comments here too! Yes, one has to be more careful now with Charities. We have to keep one eyes on them to make sure they are fulfilling their ambit, if that's an allowable word. Blessings to you too.

Hello Springboard: Thank you for this, and I can't agree with you more. The bottom line with Charities seems to be honesty and trust, with most people commenting here. They worry that their donations don't go where they should. What does that tell us? Wow. Interesting indeed! I appreciate your comments here! Cheers!


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AEvans 6 years ago from SomeWhere Out There

Charities are not like they used to be and it is ashame, I honestly started contacting charities when we needed a helping hand and they closed the doors. I was in utter shock all of that money and they could not assist? Now I only give to those who are truly charitable organizations and will truly help the people, but of course we know those are far and few in between. :)


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy AEvans: The thing here, my friend - is that people just need to ask more questions. I don't want to put people off the idea of giving charitably. I'm sorry you had bad luck with a certain charity. I hope it doesn't put you off giving to charities totally. The amounts they make can be high, and they should be responsive to good causes or where they know they can help and make a difference. Thanks for your comments here. Bless you. : )


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aspiringwriter 6 years ago

Wow this is a great hub, and a great point of view you have taken, I really enjoyed reading this. I love how you said "Thankfully there are honest charities who are not really interested in giving out bibles, they are only interested in Social Justice for the people they are helping." this hub is so powerful.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello aspiringwriter: thanks for the comment. The point is one not very often taken, but it needs to be made.And I am grateful that you pointed out that part of the quote. Social Justice is very important, in my own opinion, it is crucial. Thanks for this!


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Michael Shane 6 years ago from Gadsden, Alabama

Wow! it is amazing how some people have to live in this world! The photos are amazing you chose to go with the hub! great work Cheeky Girl!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello Michael! Wow! I was looking at some of your hubs a few minutes ago! Thanks for popping by here! Thank you for the kind words. It's a matter close to my heart, Michael. Glad you like! Always nice to have a new fan!


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Money Glitch 6 years ago from Texas

Powerful hub that is sad but so true. Man will not find the true meaning of religion or spirituality until we can give charity to a person in need without having the desire of changing who they are or their beliefs.

And what is even sadder now a days is that you can be a contributor to these charities for years, however if something happens and you need help; you will not receive a penny nor any sympathy for your situation. Thumbs up!


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blaise25 6 years ago from close to you...

Very well said and written, moi friend! :) What I loved so much bout it is you've put your heart on it. Damn, you could be a great leader! And editorials from some newspapers have no say with what I've read ;)

Yup people take advantage of charities nowadays overshadowing the real motive of charities with their own motives.

This is bravo!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Money Glitch! I totally agree wit this comment here! You nailed it right there. We can't be expecting people to change for us just because we give charitably to them and help them out. You have a good handle on this subject. Personally I don't expect anything back for doing something in some way for people. That way, I don't personally set myself up for any disappointments.

There are people out there who really need help, however small. No amount of misdirection or obfuscation from charitable organizations would ever put me off giving to charity in general. But I am more cautious than before now. It's sad but necessary. Thank you for your comments!

Hello Blaise, moi friend! : ) Love getting your comments here! Yes, I do sometimes wear my heart on my sleeve at times! And guilty as charged! Heh! Leader? Um, not too sure I want the job, mind you there's a bit of an election going on here in my neck of the woods. All the guys in suits are out in force today trying to get my vote. (Our votes even!) They can kiss my butt. LOL! I understand about the editorials. I will raise the matters if I feel they deserve airing. Just without being a whinging pain in the neck! LOL! I am glad you feel that way about charities, Blaise! Always love getting your views and comments, moi friend! x


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ripplemaker 6 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

Hi Cheeky Girl, you really made me think a lot about this thought provoking hub that you wrote. And so much of you in here too - your passion and your beliefs. It gave me a warm feeling that a lot of people show they care by giving to charities.

In my life right now, I also started "giving" to the people around me, people that I know who need help too. Even in the preschool that I run, some of the staff are struggling balancing financial needs and it is still my utmost desire to be able to give more, and yet, we still find that a challenge.


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Micky Dee 6 years ago

Howdy Cheeky Girl. I came back for another read. Reading it again- the chords struck me in the way I've been seeing things lately. More and more I see the foundation of religions ignored. The "religious" do emphasize their "Book". Their way. Read this- this is THE WAY!

Every religion has a form of the Golden Rule. Every religion! Yet- it is THIS rule that is not promoted by "Faiths". I advocate any faith that practices the Golden Rule above all else. Thanks


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Michelle! It's always nice to get your input here in my hubs! I am humbled to think that I made you think. But this hub has struck a chord with folks a lot. As long as the giving charities don't set down conditions, then it's easier to accept them. And so support them. It's the "No strings attached" syndrome I guess. And yes, I am glad you are involved in the giving too. Well done for doing that!

On helping your staff, there are many ways they can get help - I have heard of ways that staff can avail of group schemes, group buying or discounting schemes, banking or loaning schemes, sometimes even group voucher schemes. The voucher systems can be clothing or food retail. Some bosses give staff a choice as to what kinds they might prefer. And Micro loans with small interest repayment systems can be a boon too if people want to opt for such. I wish you lots of luck with it. Remember there are always choices. Hope I wasn't blathering too much here! : ) Thanks for the kind comments!

Howdy Micky Dee! Always glad to get your comments here. There have been some interesting stories about charities of different kinds in the media lately. maybe it is just coincidence. Some where in it all, religion got interwoven in with charity and the act of giving. And today we associate a lot of charitable work with religions.

Some people are ok with that, while others feel different. Charitable giving is one way for a particular religion to help promote itself in the world. To reach new members of their flock or prospective members at least.

The whole giving thing, as an idea seems to have been seen as an area where some religions view it as a kind of market and have tried to corner it somehow. Somewhere in all this the religious message sometimes gets lost or drowned out somewhat. I find that unfortunate. I get worried when the sound of rattling money drowns out the other more important things that ought to be said, and I am saddened that some principles are overlooked or brushed aside for one reason or another.

Charity ought to be a very simple thing, but some aspects of religions have made it complicated, and have muddied the waters somewhat. Thanks for your very interesting comments here, Micky.


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ns1209 6 years ago from UK - England

Really thought provoking hub


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello ns1209: thanks for the comment! : )


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ripplemaker 6 years ago from Cebu, Philippines

I loved the additional input Cheeky Girl. :) I have to rush now for work so when I can, I'll drop you an email. Thanks!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello Michelle: I am glad you loved the input. Wow! Don't be late for work! Look forward to the email! Cheers, moi friend! : )


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Blazing Blogs 6 years ago from London

Hi Cheeky, this is very well written and powerfull hub. I am afraid historically many groups have used charities as way of progressing their ideologies. This hub does a very good job to highlighting the issues we should all be aware of.


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Kaie Arwen 6 years ago

I no longer give to charities I haven't educated myself on........... most of my donations go to local charities where I can actually see them at work.

Great Hub!

Kaie


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hy Blazing Blogs: Wow, that name really stands out! You are spot on with this comment - progressing ideologies seems to be the name of the game for some charities. I think people should be more aware of it. Thank you for this, my friend.

Hy Kaie Arwen: I applaud you for being wise about the giving to local charities. It's sad that we have to end up doing this. The fact that we have to weigh up every statement and remark from a charity nowadays is indicative of a malaise in the whole charitable giving area. All we want is for charities to be more honest and transparent. Thank you for your comments, moi friend!


ralwus 6 years ago

Great job CG, some people are just twisted by fossilized prattle and platitudes. I know of some really great local charities here that just give it out with no judgments or preaching or prejudice.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello ralwus: thanks for popping by! Yes, some people get taken in by this.I also know some good charities, and some charitable organizations that do good deeds.

I just wish the help that all charities give comes without conditions like the ones I mentioned above. No one said that third world people or victims of some tragedy had to agree to sign their souls away just for a help out. Cheers for this, moi friend!


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katiem2 6 years ago from I'm outta here

Great Hub, I relate to your views and myself have experienced a life filled with charity work, in fact today I'm coordinating Miracle Mountain, It's a food, school supplies and personal needs drive and awareness program I do once every quarter. Lovely Hub, Thank and Peace ;)


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello Katie: wow I am glad you are involved in the charity thing here! Respect! It's nice to give and know it will go to a good decent cause. Cheers!


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steffsings 6 years ago from Pacific NorthWest

You have touched on some very important truths here! We should all give/help/love unconditionally. I'm certainly not perfect & should do more. Whenever able I volunteer & give to whoever is reaching the hurting in a meaningful way. (Church & NON Church related - doesn't matter to me as long as 80-90% is direct assistance) Giving is a beautiful thing for all to be involved in.

[Two of my favorites invisible children & Mercy Corps]


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maggs224 6 years ago from Sunny Spain

This is an interesting hub and I would be really interested to have a list of some of these Christian charities that will only give aid to people who will agree to certain things as I would not want to fund something like that. I know a lot of Christian charities give out religious materials but I never knew that some made the giving conditional on the acceptance of certain things before giving the aid. I would be really interested to know the names


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello steffsings: I am glad to read your comments here. I agree with you - what should happen is that the charity is given almost directly to those who need it without any pre-conditions. Unconditional help is the human way to help those in need. Handing out charity with one hand and bibles with the other is not the way to do this. I agree with you about giving, and yes it is good to give and donate where it is truly needed. Thanks for this!

Hello maggs224: I appreciate your comments here. The fact is that some charities have been doing this for a very long time. It goes way back in time. I was inspired by an american tv interview I saw with some charity people, and it was absorbing stuff. I don't remember the names in that instant, as they were not names I recognised. However the BBC have done s similar radio program which appeared on BBC radio 4 and subsequently on the BBC World Service and they spoke to several different kind of charities and also some christian aid charities. I am not knocking anyone by name in particular here. Lets remember that this is about charity giving, and giving aid and help and assistance under the right conditions. I am not the person who goes naming names. But you could Google the charities and find out easily enough. An even better way is to ask directly. I did this a short while back and the people I spoke to said they did not give out bibles to people, but merely sent what they could to the destination in question and helped out where possible.

There might be something in what you are saying and asking here. Perhaps there should be a list of specific charities that should be made for those organisations that specifically don't hand out bibles with charitable donations. And again, the internet should help in finding such organisations. Thanks for the interesting comments!


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MCWebster 6 years ago

A very thoughtful hub. Thank you for your insight into this issue, and thank you for sharing it with us! Service and charity should indeed be an unconditional act, given from the heart.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello MCWebster: aw, what a lovely comment to get here! Thanks for this, my friend! Yup, you got it in one. Service and charity should be unconditional and given from the heart. From the heart means it is real. I am glad to know this hub struck a chord here with you. Cheers! : )


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Sunnyglitter 6 years ago from Cyberspace

This is a very interesting article. I hate when people give (whether it is an organization or individual) just because they want something in return.


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Real charity should come without preconditions or quid pro quos. It is either done for the good or well-being of someone or it is not done at all. Why oh why do organisations have to make things conditional? It just complicates things, and casts a poor grey shadow over charitable giving entirely. You make some good points, Sunnglitter. I appreciate the comments. I checked your hubs, they are really great. Thanks!


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Terion 6 years ago from Springfield, MO

Bravo Cheeky Girl, love this hub! So Well True, post it everywhere!! Call it out!!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hello Terion: I am glad you like my Hub on Charity that comes with a price. Yes, it needs to be seriously looked at. It raises serious questions, which do need to be asked. Thanks for the comments, I appreciate this. :)


klarawieck 4 years ago

Cheeky, this is so true! One of the reasons why I've never donated money to organizations that are religious is because I know they'll end up spreading the religion along with the contributions. I'm sorry, but it is colonization. I have to say that not all religious people who volunteer in these charities are there to shove their beliefs down people's throat. In fact, I am friends with a family of Mormons, and I can only say wonderful things about them. They've been amazing friends to me, knowing that I'm a medium, and in the ten years I've known them, they've never tried to change my mind. The fact that they help people in need without trying to convert them says a lot about them. The only time they discuss religion is if you ask them. Now if everyone was like that, the world would be a much peaceful place! Of course, I'm talking about this one family. I'm not saying that all Mormons are like them.


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Cheeky Girl 4 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Hey Klara, I know how you feel with this! We get so anoyed when there is some attached condition to the giving of charity. What we want is charity given with no striings attached. And no religious entanglements or complications.

And I am not being anti-religious. I love giving to good causes. But handing out bibles won't fatten their bellies. Food and medicine and creating infrastructure where they can become self-empowered... and self-enabled - that is close to what I believe.

I know a few Mormons. They are nice and they keep to themselves. There is also no denying that some religious charities do some wonderful and good things in less well-off countries.

But I do get weary reading about countries of the third world being constantly bombarded by charities and bible-thumping good causes. Good cause should come with no strings attached, and charity should come with no price attached.

Thanks for the wonderful comment here, Klara! Cheers!


klarawieck 4 years ago

It's called brain-washing, and they keep doing it under the label of "Christian missions." It's sad, very sad!

Good job exposing the truth. I'm proud of ya!


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Cheeky Girl 4 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Well, that is a way of looking at it. But I don't want people to think that all charities are bad. As clearly they are not. But yes, some brainwashing is happening. Or perhaps conditioning is a better word.

Thanks Klara for the comments! Proud of me! You sound like my Grandmother! I mean that nicely of course! Hi hi! ^_^

Cheers!


klarawieck 4 years ago

With a name like Klara, I'm already everybody's grandmother! Lol


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Cheeky Girl 4 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Your name is fine, Klara! LOL! You are very kind, and a nice person! Hope your day is good. Cheers!


klarawieck 4 years ago

Cheeky, looking at the picture you have included of the African child and vulture... have you seen the movie they did on the photographer that received the nobel price for that photo? It's called The Bang Bang Club starring Taylor Kitsch, the guy who did John Carter. Anyways, the movie didn't make headlines but it's a really good film and I recommend it.


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Cheeky Girl 4 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

I never saw the film, Klara. I did hear of the Bang Bang Club and even read a book about them from a while back. Some of those photographers had amazing lives and some of course passed away, etc. The photo of the kid is quite shocking. It gets a big reaction.

Uh, I never saw John Carter, as the reviews of it were pure awful! I will look out for that film! Nice that they did a film about those great photographers. Thanks for the recommendation, Klara!


klarawieck 4 years ago

Hahaha... Cheeky, if truth be told, I only saw John Carter for the actor Taylor Kitsch... woooohoooo!!! He gets my vote anytime! Lol


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Cheeky Girl 4 years ago from UK and Nerujenia Author

Yeah, Taylor Kitsch is a beefy buffed-up action man! LOL! He sure looks fit, Klara! Ou should join his Twitter and Facebook pages if he has any! Chances are he has them! :P

Pity that movie just ...em ....sucked! LOL!

Have a grand day! :)

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