Don't Ask, Don't Tell Should Stand

Okay, I will probably step on some toes, but that is fine. I like to once in a while. Those that know me pretty well know that I do not have a politically correct bone in my body. What I am having trouble figuring out lately is why Gays and Lesbians keep saying “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” keeps them from serving in the military. I believe that they have missed the point somewhere entirely. Somewhere between 1993 and now the perception of “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” has changed drastically. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” is the policy that has allowed gays and lesbians to serve in our armed services since its implementation. Being a gay or a lesbian is illegal according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). If “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” is repealed, it will still be illegal.

Gays and lesbians have always been in our military. They have served honorably and have endured the many sacrifices just as other service members have in our history. The “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” policy has allowed them to serve for the last seventeen years. Prior to that gays and lesbians were subject to court martial under the UCMJ based on rumors and heresy. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” has allowed them to serve as long as they stay quiet about their sexual orientation. Somehow they think now that a repeal of the policy will allow them to serve openly. Maybe they can enlist as they admit their sexual orientation, but the act of homosexuality is punishable under the UCMJ as well as sodomy or even adultery. The policy was originally Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue. Keep your orientation quiet, you won’t be asked about it and you won’t be pursued for prosecution. Allowing homosexuality openly in our military creates an environment akin to special interest groups, which in turn leads to preferential treatment. None of which have any room in our military. It also opens the door for adulterers to brag about their conquest without fear of repercussion.

There is also the problem of housing and hygiene. Gays and lesbians will have to have their own special barracks. There will, at great expense, have to be housing for gay men, straight men, lesbian women and straight women. The same will have to be done for shower facilities. Our facilities overseas are already pitiful in many cases. The added financial burden to our services will only lessen the quality of living and hygiene space for our service members. Living spaces are many times cramped and overcrowded.

Soon after “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” is repealed, there will be a rash of discrimination cases. Gays and lesbians will begin shouting they were held back from promotion because of their sexual orientation. This will lead to special preference in future promotions, basing promotions on sexual orientation vice promoting the most qualified person. I am not saying that gays or lesbians should not be promoted; I am saying sexual orientation should have absolutely nothing to do with a promotion. This will only shatter morale. Our service men and women deserve much better than that. They have enough on their plates already without having to deal with such as this.

As I said earlier, gays and lesbians have always been in the ranks and they have served honorably. Their sexual orientation does not diminish their heroism in any way. I personally do not endorse homosexuality, but that has nothing to do with anything. They are still heroes in my book. Any man or woman that wears a uniform of any branch is a Hero in my eyes. I have served for many years now and met many wonderful people in my life of service. I have not cared one way or another whether or not they were homosexual or not. It is a non-factor. It should remain a non-factor when young men or women raise their right hand and swear allegiance to our Constitution. “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” allows it to be a non-factor.

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American Romance 6 years ago from America

What about the rights of the straight guys? If I was in the military I don't want to shower with a gay man checking out my junk! ......thanks for serving!

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

A very good point, when we try to spread fairness around it usually tramples on another persons rights.

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tony0724 6 years ago from san diego calif

jtcarr I was not aware that being a gay person was illegal in the UCMJ. Boy libs will have a field day with that one ! I thank you for your service and to the gay community that has served us as well. Very insightful hub.

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Tony, that is what a lot of people do not realize about the military. There are so many acts punishable under the UCMJ. As I said in the Hub, even adultery is punishable. While some people never cared about Bill Clinton's sexcapades, service members lost careers and security clearances over the same types of actions. Clinton's conduct, as Commander in Chief, was a slap in the face of all service members that are held to such high moral standards. Oh WOW! I just took off on a whole different tangent!

bloggo vich 6 years ago

Great Blog, never thought of it that way. Great insight.

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rachellrobinson 6 years ago from Southwest Missouri

I would like to link this to a hub I wrote. A hubber commented that we should support gay and lesbian troops, in response to my hub on supporting the troops and supporting the war. I think she like a lot of people think that those who don't support the repeal of don't ask don't tell means they don't support the troops.

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Sure, Rachelle, go right ahead. Anything I can do to help keep people from thinking we are full of hate

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Old Poolman 6 years ago from Rural Arizona

Of course there are gays and lesbians in the military, just as there are gays and lesbians in the workplace. UCMJ has laws on the books that would horrify anyone who has never served in the military and is not familiar with these laws. Your civil rights no longer apply in the military, because it would just not work if they did. When preparing to go into battle, the sexual preference of the person standing beside me is the least of my worries. I'm more concerned with how well he can shoot. There will never be separate living quarters for the gays and straights in my opinion, just as different races are no longer separated into separate barracks. In the military the primary separator of people is their rank. Anytime we have large groups of people, they will be made up of different races, sexual preference, religions, etc., but in the military they still function as a team. By the way, I am straight and I salute everyone who is serving or has served our country by being in our Armed Forces.

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Thank you for your comments, Poolman. Very good points. Unfortunately, our Armed Forces today, are more occupied with the sexual preferences of our fighting men and women than they are about things like reading a compass, or knowing how to shoot. When a soldier can't shoot, he is given a big Army hug, its documented and everyone has a warm feeling. Then said soldier gets deployed still not knowing how to shoot and everything is hunky-dory!

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Old Poolman 6 years ago from Rural Arizona

I keep forgetting I was in the Brown Boot Army, and I'm sure things are much different now. Great Hub - keep on writing..........and thanks for serving your country.

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barbergirl28 6 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Finally --- someone has said it. I agree with you. The point of Don't ask don't tell is not to take the gays and lesbians out of the military, it is so people aren't uncomfortable. If they don't flaunt it, it won't effect others. I don't even know if I am finding the right words for this. Only people who have served truly understand this, it is the others who haven't who think we are being unjust. I served for 5 years, my husband for 6. I never cared eitehr way. But, when it comes to the closeness that military life begins, if you are thinking you are being checked out while showering, it is going to cause issues. As long as they don't flaunt it, there is never going to be an issue! Great Hub and thanks for your service!

Alex 6 years ago

Don't Ask Don't Tell goes further, it doesn't simply take "flaunting it" as if that can be defined, it means simple knowledge of your sexual orientation is grounds for dismissal - the idea being that gay people should not let anybody know.

Now, I think if anyone is going to specifically agitate others, that is something that can specifically be addressed without placing all the blame on gays, many who don't flaunt it at all.

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sheila b. 6 years ago

As far as I know, the government doesn't havethe right - yet - to demand a person declare his/her sexual orientation. I have the feeling if DADT is repealed, that question will be added to all gov't questionaires.

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Very good point, Sheila. Removal of that policy can reopen that door.

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OpinionDuck 6 years ago


I did my own hub on DADT and I think your hub is much better.


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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Hey Duck, Thank you for that vote of confidence. I will be sure to check your hub out also.

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d.william 6 years ago from Somewhere in the south

The mentality in this country never ceases to amaze me. This issue is so simple, you would think that even the most backward redneck from the south could understand it, but i guess i have been giving people way too much credit for sensibility. The bottom line is equality. The argument against homosexuality is based on an outdated religious concept of what is sin in the minds of those old religious bigots who tout their piety while molesting young boys (and girls)in the back rooms of their churches. Sexual (preferences) are not by choice. It is a genetic anomaly. Much like being born with diabetes, mongoloidism, or mental retardation. [And i use these only as references, homosexuality is not to be construed as this kind of birth defect). It is a wonder that all those other birth anomalies were not dubbed as "sinful" as well. The common minds think as your first commenter above (AR) that gay people would be interested in the likes of him. Being born hetro or homo does not inherently make you a sex addict who would have sex with anyone the comes your way. This is in the warped minds of those who have no clue to anything outside their own little self centered worlds. I can assure you that those brave men and women who just happen to be homosexual are not in the military for sexual exploitation purposes, any more than the heterosexuals are. What ever your sexual inclinations are, no-one should have to live their lives in constant fear of being abused or killed just because they are different. This American shame has got to stop.

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jtcarr1164 6 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

d.william, again thanks for stopping by and leaving good insight and comment. Sorry I took so long to get back to you.

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mslizzee 5 years ago from Buncombe County, NC

Whom do you suppose is behind eliminating the DADT policy? The same group of people that put story books about gays into the classrooms, that want to teach little children about "alternate" sexual preferences, that give demonstrations of applying a condom to a cucumber to classrooms. Same People folks, so now that they have their way they can complain about their treatment and sue the army for discrimination. I'm, sorry, but it is all so phony. My uncle served in the army as a Chief Warrant Officer most of his life. He was gay, no one bothered him, his sexuality was not an issue, blah, blah, blah. It is a tiresome drum beat these people play as they try to mainstream a life style that most people don't like very much.

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jtcarr1164 5 years ago from Tueplo, Mississippi Author

Hey mslizzee! Thank you for following and thank you for your comment. One other point that I never brought up in this hub is that our Constitution grants freedoms to individuals, not groups.

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