Eric Holder

ERIC HOLDER
ERIC HOLDER

ERIC HOLDER

Eric Holder (b. 1951) is the Attorney General for the United States of America. His parents immigrated to America from Barbados. He earned his degree in History in 1973, and his Juris Doctor in 1976, both from Columbia University in New York City. He was appointed to the Superior Court of Washington, D.C., in 1988 by then President Ronald Wilson Reagan.  President Barack Hussein Obama named Eric Holder to the office of Attorney General early in 2009.  His appointment caused great consternation among Guns-Rights advocates, as in 2008 Eric Holder had joined an amicus brief to the Supreme Court (D.C. vs. Heller) about which he wrote that the Second Amendment did not protect the right-to-bear-arms for individuals. 

SMOLDERING RUINS OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
SMOLDERING RUINS OF THE WORLD TRADE CENTER

ERIC HOLDER PROSECUTES THE CIA

Eric Holder reopened 20 five-year-old cases involving CIA interrogations of terrorists, which had already been reviewed by professional, non-partisan, federal prosecutors who found no evidence of criminal conduct or intent.  These cases are not about torture, but about threatening detainees. 

Seven former CIA Directors signed a joint statement asking President Obama to stop this investigation for national security reasons but he said, “No.  Nobody’s above the law.” The former Directors stated, “This creates an atmosphere of continuous jeopardy.”  New York Congressman Peter King was more colorful in his reaction:  “It’s bullshit. It’s disgraceful. It’s a declaration of war against the CIA. It’s a total breach of faith. You will have thousands of lives lost and the blood will be on Eric Holder’s hands. This goes to the heart of national defense.” 

Morale at the CIA has plunged. Why would any bright and talented young professional choose the CIA as a career when the Attorney General is working to expose and undermine its current agents?

BLACK PANTHERS INTIMIDATE VOTERS

BLACK PANTHERS
BLACK PANTHERS
NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY
NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY
NEW BLACK PANTHERS
NEW BLACK PANTHERS

ERIC HOLDER DROPS CHARGES AGAINST BLACK PANTHERS

Eric Holder dropped the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther Party. Bartle Bull, a former civil rights lawyer and publisher of the left-wing Village Voice, called the case "the most blatant form of voter intimidation I've ever seen." On Election Day 2008, Mr. Bull and others witnessed two Black Panthers in paramilitary garb, brandishing nightsticks, at the entrance to a polling place near downtown Philadelphia. One of them yelled at voters, "You are about to be ruled by the black man, cracker!"

In January, the Justice Department filed a civil lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party and three of its members, for violating the 1965 Voting Rights Act by scaring voters with weapons, uniforms, and racial slurs. Prosecutors said the New Black Panther Party “supports racially motivated violence against non-blacks and Jews.”

In March, Mr. Bull submitted an affidavit at the request of the Justice Department to support its lawsuit. When none of the defendants filed any response to the complaint or appeared in federal district court in Philadelphia to answer the suit, it appeared almost certain Justice would have prevailed by default. Instead, the department, in May, suddenly allowed the party and defendants to walk away. Black Panther Party Chairman, Malik Zulu Shabazz, said on Fox News just after the election that his activities at the polling station were part of a nationwide effort.

The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights sent a letter to the Justice Department demanding an answer as to why Eric Holder stopped the investigation. "We believe the Department's defense of its actions thus far undermines respect for rule of law," its letter stated. Also noted was "the peculiar logic" of one Justice argument, that the defendants' failure to show up in court was a reason for dismissing the case: "Such an argument sends a perverse message to wrongdoers—that attempts at voter suppression will be tolerated so long as the persons who engage in them are careful not to appear in court to answer the government's complaint."

ERIC HOLDER WITH HIS FRIENDS ACORN
ERIC HOLDER WITH HIS FRIENDS ACORN

ERIC HOLDER DECLINES TO PROSECUTE ACORN

Eric Holder declined to prosecute his friends at ACORN for racketeering after videotapes surfaced showing them breaking numerous federal laws in seven states---precisely the purpose of federal racketeering laws. The House of Representatives Reform and Oversight Committee had presented Eric Holder with 88 pages of violations by ACORN, including at least 100,000 fraudulent voter registrations. ACORN is also the organization that President Obama wanted to conduct our national census that is used to appropriate federal funds and voting districts. Holder commented, “The nation must be convinced that it is a progressive future that holds the greatest promise for equality.” Holder later told the American Constitution Society “Conservatives have been defenders of the status quo, afraid of the future, and content to allow continuing to exist all but the most blatant inequalities.” They have made a mockery of the rule of law. Conservatives are breathtaking in their arrogance.

UMAR FAROUK ABDUL MUTALLAB "THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER"
UMAR FAROUK ABDUL MUTALLAB "THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER"

ERIC HOLDER: CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER IS COMMON CRIMINAL

Eric Holder decided that the “Christmas Day Bomber,” Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is a common criminal, not an international terrorist; forcing investigators to read him his Miranda rights and to cease questioning him 50 minutes after his arrest. Abdulmutallab was trained, equipped, and dispatched by the Al Qaeda in Yemen to kill 278 Americans on board the Northwest Airlines flight. By treating him as a civilian, giving him the right to remain silent, providing him with a government paid lawyer, the opportunity was lost to interrogate him military style and to possibly gain information about those who want to murder innocent Americans. Holder never bothered to consult with the Directors of National Intelligence, Homeland Security, or the FBI. Holder believes that foreign terrorists should be granted full American Constitutional rights.

SENATOR GRAHAM QUESTIONS ERIC HOLDER

WORLD TRADE CENTER JUMPER
WORLD TRADE CENTER JUMPER
PENTAGON HIT IN TERRORIST ATTACK
PENTAGON HIT IN TERRORIST ATTACK
FLIGHT 93 ENDS IN PENNSYLVANIA FIELD
FLIGHT 93 ENDS IN PENNSYLVANIA FIELD
DANIEL PEARL SHORTLY BEFORE BEHEADING
DANIEL PEARL SHORTLY BEFORE BEHEADING
VICTIMS FROM BALI TERROR ATTACK
VICTIMS FROM BALI TERROR ATTACK
KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED-MASTERMIND OF 9-11 AND 30 OTHER TERROR ATTACKS DESERVES AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED-MASTERMIND OF 9-11 AND 30 OTHER TERROR ATTACKS DESERVES AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED AFTER CAPTURE
KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED AFTER CAPTURE
PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
PROGRESSIVE PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

ERIC HOLDER DECIDES TO TRY TERRORISTS IN NEW YORK CITY

Eric Holder decided to try admitted Al Qaeda terrorist Khalid Sheik Muhammad in a civilian court in New York City for masterminding the attacks on America known as 9-11. This week, two groups of United States Senators, both Republicans and Democrats, have protested this decision, and have urged Eric Holder to try the conspirators in a military tribunal. They warned that a federal trial could compromise classified evidence and serve as a recruitment tool for terrorists. "The attacks of 9/11 were acts of war, and those who planned and carried out those attacks are war criminals," they wrote, expressing concern about the administration's use of the criminal justice system for "enemy combatants." Virginia Congressman, Frank Wolf added, “The cost of moving a handful of people and trying them and keeping them in New York City until the appeals are out could cost up to a billion and perhaps even over a billion dollars.”

According to British magazine The GuardianSuch a high profile case, so close to the emblematic epicentre of 9/11, will not only involve major security issues but will also have to consider how to deal with what is likely to be an extremely large body of classified evidence that the prosecution will want to present. ‘KSM’, as he has come to be known, and his four co-defendants describe themselves as 'terrorists to the bone' in a filing before a military commission at Guantánamo in March and have referred to their alleged involvement as a ‘badge of honour’.”

The Associated Press reported: “Khalid Sheikh Mohammed portrayed himself as Al Qaeda's most ambitious operational planner in a confession to a U.S. military tribunal that said he planned and supported 31 terrorist attacks, topped by Sept. 11, that killed thousands of innocent victims since the early 1990s. Mohammed made clear that Al Qaeda wanted to down a second trans-Atlantic aircraft during would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid's operation, and he confessed to the beheading of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in a section of the statement that was excised from the public document.”

The 1950 Supreme Court decision ruling in Johnson vs. Eisentrager  holds that enemy aliens who have not entered the United States are not entitled to access to our courts. Accordingly, so long as the Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters are held at Guantanamo Bay, they are not deemed to have entered the United States.

In exchange for a marginal world-opinion public relations advantage, America will be subjected to the airing of intelligence sources and methods, to the posturing of mass murderers fully aware of their terrorist star power, to the possibility of mistrial and procedural acquittal, and to an increased threat of revenge attacks against New York City. Issues likely to be raised by the defense include finding a jury that can be considered impartial, especially blocks from the World Trade Center site, and whether Mohammed's rights to a speedy trial have already been violated. “These terrorists planned and executed the mass murder of thousands of innocent Americans," Senator John Cornyn of Texas said Friday. "Treating them like common criminals is unconscionable."

It should be noted that Eric Holder is a partner of the law firm Covington & Burling, which represents 18 Gitmo detainees, and one of his partners there, Mark Falkoff, has compared the Gitmo detainees to the Jews held in concentration camps during the Holocaust. Two former anti-Gitmo lawyers from the firm have been hired by Eric Holder, and they now garner salaries in the Department of Justice.

The Senate Judiciary Committee met to question Attorney General Eric Holder about his decision. The Democrat members asked zero questions about the decision. The Republican members asked Mr. Holder thoughtful questions. Some examples: “How can we be assured that these enemies will be found guilty? Given that criminal courts are now the presumed venue for those captured on the battlefield, will soldiers need to read them their rights at the time of capture? Since you wish to make exceptions on a case-by-case basis to the presumed civil venue, don't all those captured need to be read their rights and have the opportunity to remain silent? Won't this venue expose intelligence to our enemies? Can our classified information really be secured? Can we in fact predict how the judge will rule? If these people are brought into the country will they get additional rights under immigration law? What if they claim asylum?” The attorney general seemed bewildered in the face of these inquiries. Recurring themes in his responses included "I think," and "I can't imagine," and "I am not an expert in immigration." Over 100,000 people signed a letter in opposition to this decision.

Wartime American presidents such as Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Roosevelt understood that the Constitution is not a suicide pact. Enemy combatants have consistently been judged by a different and harsher legal standard than have American citizens. Whatever his initial assurances, Holder does not believe America is at war with terrorists. Even worse, he seems determined to undermine those who believe just that.

OSAMA BIN LADEN FORGOT TO SIGN THE GENEVA CONVENTION
OSAMA BIN LADEN FORGOT TO SIGN THE GENEVA CONVENTION

GENEVA CONVENTIONS


I hear a lot of blather about the Geneva Conventions in regard to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay. It appears that President Obama and Attorney General Holder believe that the prisoners held there are being denied their rights. This makes me wonder if either of them has read the Geneva Conventions.

The prisoner-of-war rules only apply to enemy combatants who wear an identifying uniform; carry their weapons openly; and do not target civilians. The terrorists at Guantanamo meet none of these requirements. In fact, it is a key component of their basic strategy not to comply with these requirements.

All that is required of the United States is that they be treated humanely, and that they have been is beyond question. They have been treated better than the criminals in our own state prisons. Besides all that, the Geneva Convention only applies to a conflict between two parties who have both signed the thing. Al Qaeda decidedly has not.


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Vladimir Uhri 6 years ago from HubPages, FB

I do appreciate you work and information, James.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Vladimir! Hello my friend. Thank you for being my first visitor. I appreciate you!


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dohn121 6 years ago from Hudson Valley, New York

Nope, I don't like Eric Holder either. What's the next casualty in our country, the Bill of Rights? If that ever happens, I think that I'm going to move to Australia! Thank you again James and thank you cosette for the advice! Wonderful work!


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

dohn121--- I didn't say I didn't like him. :D

I think the Bill of Rights now applies to some people more than others. Australia's looking pretty good! You are welcome. I hope Cosette sees this Hub. Thank you for the compliment.


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carolina muscle 6 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

You put a lot of work into this post, James... thanks for a very interesting perspective!


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RevLady 6 years ago from Lantana, Florida

Very informative hub. I did not know much about Holder and appreciate the learning experience.

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Hello, hello, 6 years ago from London, UK

Interesting and informative hub, Thank you, James.


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Tom Whitworth 6 years ago from Moundsville, WV

James,

Holder starts his government career brokering the pardon of Marc Rich in 2000. Now he prosecutes the CIA. He likes the New Black Panther Party, he likes Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, he likes KSM. Is that correct?


heather56 6 years ago

Great and informative article. It's no wonder that Holder is Progressive. He is a graduate of Columbia.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

carolina muscle--- Thank you for the recognition of my work and you are quite welcome.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

RevLady--- Thank you for your appreciation. I am pleased that you came by and left your comments.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Hello, hello,--- Thank you for saying so. You are welcome and I appreciate your ongoing support on HubPages.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Tom Whitworth--- Hello, my friend. I didn't mention the Marc Rich case but what you say is true. I'm not sure how much he likes these bad guys but he has the usual "tolerant" worldview common among Social Liberals, which is: it somehow must be the fault of our society that these poor folks turned out the way they did.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

heather56--- You make a good point that Columbia is a hotbed of Social Liberalism. Thank you for coming by and leaving your compliments.


Hxprof 6 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

OK, only one poster has commented that he doesn't like Holder. I don't know the guy-he may be a really nice fellow. However, I don't like his way of thinking which is certainly grounded in his ideology.

Obama said, "Judge me by those with whom I surround myself". Was he serious?? If so, then the case is obvious.


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Angela Blair 6 years ago from Central Texas

This Hub is right on target -- and full of great information - I enjoyed it. Having watched the Black Panthers - nearly from their inception - it's beyond me how anyone can uphold their actions. Best, Sis


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Hxprof--- He probably is a very nice fellow. I must confess: I do not like his way of thinking or ideology either. President Obama did say those very words. And then he wonders why he is criticized. I would think that should be obvious.

Thanks for your excellent comments, my friend.


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DiamondRN 6 years ago from Charlotte, NC USA

Eric Holder. They don't come any worse, unless they're from Al Qaeda.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Angela Blair--- Thank you for reading my Hub and leaving your compliments. I am well pleased that you enjoyed it. The best to you, Sis.

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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

DiamondRN--- Thank you for reading and commenting. I appreciate your support.


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rondre64 6 years ago

Another great Hub James. Very interesting information about Holder. It would be grerat if the public after see an officials track record like this could get rid of them. I like the picture that makes KSM look like Rosie O'Donnell.


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Tom Whitworth 6 years ago from Moundsville, WV

James,

Since everything else is George W. Bush's fault I'll bet he recommended Holder to Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Nemingha 6 years ago

I knew nothing about Eric Holder until today, so thank you James for the information. I do wonder how yourself and dohn121 would fit into the Australian lifestyle - methinks we may be a tad too conservative and boring for you!


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akirchner 6 years ago from Central Oregon

Am I mistaken or is that a hairy Rosie O'Donnell in the pic that says Khalid Sheik Mohammed after capture? It surely looks like her! Great information and some days moving to a foreign country does sound promising but as Nemingha points out, I have a feeling we'd not fit in as we Americans are too spoiled and too 'I want it now'. As the movie title said though, in this country, 'Something's Gotta Give' and soon as we are watching our liberties disappear right before our very eyes.


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Cari Jean 6 years ago from Bismarck, ND

Great information. Thanks so much for all the hard work you do, James. Hubs like this help people to understand what is going on in this country today and why we seem to be falling apart.

BTW just a side note but does anyone else think KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED resembles Rosie O'Donnel? I actually thought it was her at first.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

rondre64--- Thank you, brother, for stopping in and leaving your compliments. You know, KSM does sort of resemble Rosie there. :D


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Websense 6 years ago from Raleigh, NC

It is Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie was concerned that Khalid Sheik Mohammed had been tortured, so some people decided to merge her face with Khalid's hairy body. Perfect match.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Tom Whitworth--- I am sure it is all George Bush's fault somehow.


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Websense 6 years ago from Raleigh, NC

Rosie Khalid Sheikh Mohammed O'Donnell:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4215078364_18e...


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Nemingha--- You are welcome. Thank you very much for visiting me from the land Down Under. It's nice to see you again. My nephew lived in Australia for a year at Willagong? University. He says it is far from boring. He loved it there. I hope to get the chance to visit for myself someday.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

akirchner--- Gee that looks like her . . . I was just checking to see how sharp my readers are. And I love that pic. Something about it . . .

Well, I'm not going to go Alec Baldwin or anything. I think the country is over its flirtation with radical socialism and is moving back to center. But you are right, Americans are spoiled; something's gotta give; and our liberties are disappearing.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Cari Jean--- Thank you and you're welcome. That does kinda look like Rosie in a hair shirt, doesn't it? I was wondering if anybody else thought so or was it just me. I thought I might be seeing things. :-)


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Websense--- Gosh, thy do look good together. I can't put anything past my readers. You guys are a sharp bunch. :) But I tried. Seriously though. A serious subject can always use a bit of humor.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Websense--- Thanks for coming by and providing that link. I'm your latest follower.


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jiberish 6 years ago from florida

Holder is just one of the fine gems in this admin. Thank you for pointing out that Rosie is related to the Sheik, I wasn't aware of the resemblance till now.

Quick question, how excited are you about the new train to Tampa? Go Rubio!


Kaye 6 years ago

James now I'm very upset with you. I grew-up with Eric Holder, we hail from the same hometown, East Elmnurst, Queens. Your article is bias and utterly unfair. He is a good, fair and honest man. You like the rest of the "White Right" seem to have a problem with people of African decent gaining power. I thought better of you, now I don't.

By-the-way, your picture of KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED looks to me like a doctored picture. It looks like a prank on Rosie McDonald. Shame on you! It appears that you are not very open minded at all.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

jiberish--- I hope the train is a worthwhile venture. They have one planned for Orlando also. If people will use it, it will be good.

It is a pleasure to hear from you again. I hope the baby is well. Thanks for coming and commenting.


Kaye 6 years ago

Alan Keyes, Michael Steele and Clarence Thomas? Come on now. I can understand Colin (not colon, please correct that if you will) Powell and Condoleezza Rice but Alan Keyes, Michael Steele and Clarence Thomas? Surly you jest.

Please give me this evening to reply fully.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Kaye--- My goodness. Please don't be upset. How so is it biased and unfair? If I erred in any of the facts I presented please point them out and I will edit my article for you. I'm not saying Mr. Holder isn't a fair, good and honest man. I didn't offer any opinions here. I believe these to be facts but if I am mistaken it is unintentional and I welcome correction. I do not have a problem with black folks in power. I voted for Alan Keyes and I voted for Michael Steele. I would have voted for Condi or Colin had they run for President. Clarence Thomas is my favorite Supreme Court Justice.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Kaye--- I forgot to mention J. C. Watts. I have his autographed photograph on my desk. I had lunch with him once. I had dinner with Michael Steele atop the Hay Adams Hotel overlooking the White House and he is utterly charming and brilliant. I have read dozens of Clarence Thomas' legal opinions and they are awesome! Alan Keyes I have met and talked with and read many of his magazine articles that I think are spot on in discernment. I would be happy with any of these six as President.


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Ken R. Abell 6 years ago from ON THE ROAD

Thanks for an informative Hub, James. The facts about Mr. Holder's background explain some things, but his peculiar understandings of law are astounding to me.


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Pamela99 6 years ago from United States

James, this was an excellent hub. I wrote about Holder briefly but nothing that tells the whole story like you have. I wonder if he's not a Muslim because he seems to be doing so many things that are not in the interest of the USA. I knew about the law firm and he has supposedly broke that connection when he became Attorney General, it isn't difficult to see where his loyalties lie. As for the soldier in the field, it would seem some might resort to kill rather than capture because of the situation in the USA. It is surely a sad state of affairs.


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Army Infantry Mom 6 years ago

James,.. High 5 on this Hub !!! It is so well writen and not a single thing was left out. It shows the whole piture.

Eric Holder is a (*&%$%&* and Horriable for the country and not to mention putting her safty at risk. I hope many get a chance to read this, especially the ones who walk around life with their blinders on.

P.S. I appreciate the work you have put into this !!!


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Ken R. Abell--- You are welcome. I appreciate your fine insights, Ken. Thanks for this visit.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Pamela99--- Thank you, dear. I did not know you had written about Holder or I wouldn't have. I haven't read any Hubs this week as I wanted to concentrate on writing for my push to 100,000 page views. I will catch up on my Hub reading next week. I have two more Hubs to publish first. I barely comprehend the man's world view. I mean, I sort of get it but I don't.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Army Infantry Mom--- Thank you so much. Coming from the mother of a proud serviceman, I greatly appreciate your affirmation and appreciation. I am humbly grateful for your response.


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Truth From Truth 6 years ago from Michigan

Thanks James, This was an excellent article. You made some good points. It is always good to take away are gun rights, and then let black panthers go free. It's also interesting that he can't tell a common shoplifter from a terrorist.


Kaye 6 years ago

I’ll start by quoting an article entitled Declassified C.I.A. Archives Detail Illegal Activities, by Mark Mazzetti and Tim Weiner in the New York Times it says “Long-secret documents released Tuesday provide new details about how the Central Intelligence Agency illegally spied on Americans decades ago, from trying to bug a Las Vegas hotel room for evidence of infidelity to tracking down an expert lock picker for a Watergate conspirator.

You, James, say that the ”Morale at the CIA has plunged,” and you ask “Why would any bright and talented young professional choose the CIA as a career when the Attorney General is working to expose and undermine its current agents? Read the article by Mazzitte and Weiner in the New York Times (it’s online) and you’ll get your answer because nobody is above the law.

I’ll move on to “Voter Intimidation”. Wednesday, September 22, 2004 Reuters reported that Millions of American citizens, “including a disproportionate number of black voters”, would be blocked from voting in the Nov. 2 presidential election.” Legal barriers were put in place to facilitate this. "There are individuals and officials who are actively trying to stop people from voting who they think will vote against their party and that nearly always means stopping black people from voting Democratic," said Mary Frances Berry, head of the U.S. Commission on Human Rights.” August 17, 2004 NPR reported ”Florida police officers are reportedly interrogating elderly African-American voters in Orlando at home. Officials say it's part of an ongoing investigation into allegations of voter fraud. But advocates contend elderly blacks are being intimidated.”

Don’t forget those hanging chads.

So now let’s look at Gerrymandering defined as a form of boundary delimitation by which electoral district or constituency boundaries are deliberately modified for electoral purposes. According to Wikipedia, Gerrymandering may be used to achieve desired electoral results for a particular party, or may be used to help or hinder a particular group of constituents, such as a political, racial, linguistic, and religious or class group...

In 2004, in Wisconsin and elsewhere voters allegedly received flyers that said, “If you already voted in any election this year, you can’t vote in the Presidential Election”, implying that those who had voted in earlier primary elections were ineligible to vote. Also, ’If anybody in your family has ever been found guilty of anything you can’t vote in the Presidential Election.’ Finally, ‘If you violate any of these laws, you can get 10 years in prison and your children will be taken away from you.’ Another method, allegedly used in Cook County, Illinois in 2004, is to falsely tell particular people that they are not eligible to vote.” Do you still want to talk about voter intimidation? I can give you more flagrant and glaring examples going back to Jim Crow, the Klu Klux Clan and the Women Suffragette movement.

Turning now to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, why not read him the Miranda rights? Here we have a lost misinform kid who was lead astray, deceived and yes brainwashed. What he participated in is evil but we should fight evil with evil? Two wrongs never mad a right. I applaud Mr. Holder who feels that the law applies to everyone regardless.

As for Lindsay Graham he belongs right up there with your affection for Clarence Thomas and Michael Steele and I’ll bet good old Joe Wilson.

I could go on and find even more examples but all that would prove is that should one spend enough time online and one can find anything ludicrous or not, nonfactual or not and silly or not to support one’s theories.

You don’t like that fact that an African American democrat won the office of President of the United States. You know, the chant, “I want MY America back”. You don’t like his cabinet picks and you will use any falsehood you can find, turn all the truths inside out and fabricate whatever to make yourself feel better and mislead the poor unfortunates who are incapable of thinking for themselves. You are feeding their ignorant fears and perpetuating lies.

One of your readers actually said she always thought Eric Holder was Muslim. And so what if he was. Being a follower of Islam (by-the-way neither he nor Obama are) does not a terrorist make? Timothy McVey wasn’t Muslim but he sure was a terrorist. I wonder, did they Mirandasize him?

Al Qaeda and its operatives scar me to death. These people are out to destroy all of us. They are dangerous, sick and have to be dealt with but to equate Eric Holder with this sick group is sickness itself. Eric Holder a man who grew-up in a middle class family in a middle class community of African Americans who had pride in their accomplishments. Our parent worked hard and endured indignities so that we, their children, could obtain an education, live well and become productive citizens in a country that despised us simply because of the color of our skin. Despite all the odds we succeeded because our parents instilled in us that regardless of what obstacles “White America” put in front of us we were destine to achieve greatness.

You can continue to berate him, you can continue to lie about him, you can continue to vilify him but you can’t win because he like Mr. Obama have divine intervention on their side. They have truth on their side and one day all you naysayers will awake to the truth and hold your heads in shame.

My first inclination was to stop reading your hubs but after careful thought I have decided to continue because someone has to counteract the venom. Somehow this little voice of mine will be heard and the truth will prevail. So I'll defend Mr. Holder.

You know, hatred is a terrible disease, like cancer it eats away at its victim.


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stars439 6 years ago from Louisiana, The Magnolia and Pelican State.

Informative and interesting hub as usual. God Bless You


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Truth From Truth--- You are welcome. Thank you for reading and commenting. The Black Panther thing may be the most disturbing thing on this page.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Kaye--- I fail to see what the CIA did decades ago has to do with the witch hunt Mr. Holder has started with the cases I wrote about.

That Reuters report has been investigated and completely discredited. Everybody knows that it is the Democrats who partake in voter fraud. In Chicago their motto is "vote early and vote often." Anytime you hear about dead people or dogs voting it is invariably for Democrat candidates. When you hear about crack for votes, it is never to vote for a Republican. In the Reuters case the worst thing they found was a report that seeing a cop car "on the road to the voting place" was intimidating for a black person. And you honestly are going to bring up Cook County as an example of Democrat candidates being disenfranchised? Now you're making me laugh.

No, Miranda Rights are not for foreign terrorists actively engaged in terrorism involving mass murder plots, no. Absolutely not. A misinformed kid? Was Jeffrey Dahmer misinformed? How about John Wayne Gacy? Misinformed? Sure. So what!?

Falsehood? You tell me one falsehood on this page.

Do I like radical socialist or communist revolutionaries in my government who aim to destroy what made America great? Of course not. And most of them are white, as I covered in my Hubs "Obama Czars" and "Obama Nation."

I don't give a damn what color Obama is. You are flat out wrong. You remind me of the character in a movie I saw who claimed Billiards was a racist game because "the white ball knocks the colored balls off the table."

McVey was an American citizen. Al Qaeda is not the same thing.

Holder received a full scholarship to Columbia. Hardly a thing that someone who is despised is blessed with. I didn't get one. Maybe because I am white? Must be. I didn't get one.

Berate him? Lie about him? Vilify him? What in the hell are you reading? Not my Hub. Where in my Hub did I lie? Berate? Vilify? My Hub is venomous? Do you know what that word means? Hatred? Tell me one sentence in my Hub that betrays hatred.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

stars439--- Thank you for your compliments. I did my best to only report the facts and not my opinion. Your support is greatly appreciated.


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no body 6 years ago from Rochester, New York

I understand folks looking for justice long denied, equal rights long denied, but the Black Panthers are looking to subjugate, to rule instead of coexist in a free society. I understand fair and humaine treatment of people and freedom of religion, but muslim supporters you've mentioned want to aid people whose stated purpose is to kill people, murder and subjugation. I think people are really beginning to see and I feel the mood is changing. Come on November, I have an itchy voting finger.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

no body--- I also understand the things you listed that you understand. The mood has definitely changed and it has nothing to do with color. I want to thank you for your excellent, sensible comments. I appreciate this visit by you. It's great to hear from you. I'll be reading your Hubs soon.


Robert 6 years ago

James,

Great Hub James and accurate to a fault. Kaye I believe is the racist that she would take any person of color to be president despite their character or agenda. This country has been ready for a female or president of color for at least twenty years. There was a time I wanted Powell to run, his patriotism, education were enough for me and many others. Just because the first black president turns out to be a Progressive Socialist leading the country in a direction we (the majority) don't want she plays the race card. Seriously???She is correct in mentioning the internet, libraries, newspapers and media are full of lies and truths. One has to look deep but the truth is there even if only for one's self. If she believes Eric Holder is doing the right things so be it, but don't be surprised when you find out he is not and neither is our President. It is the color of their character and not their skin that concerns us. STOP calling James a racist, I have know him for a very long time and nothing could be further from the truth. Call him wrong if like, call him mis-led or mis-informed but he has never been a racist!!


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breakfastpop 6 years ago

Terrific hub, James.

Eric Holder and Barack have a great deal in common. Unfortunately, what they share is not in the best interests of the Unites States of America.


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tony0724 6 years ago from san diego calif

James I think you know where I stand on Holder. This guy is the greatest threat to American security that we have out there. To marandize terrorists and give them rights is bad enough. And then taxpayers get to foot the bill for their defense ? I think Mr Holder should already be in jail. And Kaye obviously is drinking the liberal kool-aid


Kaye 6 years ago

Oh James, just what I expected.

You can't see nor understand having not walked a mile in the shoes of those who have been subjugated and lied about. It is a strange phenomenon that the very same people who harbor hate become offended when called out. It is so deep in your being that you can't stop long enough to do even a little self-examination.

I don't ever expect to change your views, that was never my intent. My intent was to expose.

You can make any and all excuses. Quote whatever you want and try your best to nullify but the truth will always remain. I've made my point and you just helped me prove it. You think what you think and I see what I see.

I don't expect to find any support here at the JAW hub. Birds of a feather always stick together right or wrong, come hell or high water.

Not sorry your ire was up. Maybe a little raised blood pressure will help clear the cobwebs. (Not)

Remember the old adage, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. ;)

I will say that you were fair enough to approve my thoughts and for that I thank you.

Oh and Robert,he doesn't warrant a response. A little like the pot calling the kettle, well you know. But he tried.

Ta ta,until next the next hub that peaks my interest.


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drbj 6 years ago from south Florida

Congrats, James - You certainly know how to start a dialogue. Telll it like it is and there will always be comeone to contradict, deny or oppose you. Thanks for the revealing hub.


Kaye 6 years ago

livelonger has a hub called Prejudice Test|Racism Test, take a trip over and take the test racist. Let me know how you do. Should be interesting and oh remember to be honest. Be sure to take Robert with you. :D


cosette 6 years ago

excellent hub James. you put tons of effort into researching this. i heard that this civil trial could cost the American people a billion dollars (because of the need for heightened security, etc.)

ridiculous, isn't it.


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michiganman567 6 years ago from Michigan

A lot of info there. I just wrote a short article about the KSM trial coming up. Check it out and let me know what you think.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Robert--- Well, you have known me for 40 years. I don't believe I have ever said or done anything considered racist. I very much appreciate the spirited defense of my character, brother. I very much enjoyed your wise comments right down the line. Great stuff, my friend. Thank you for reading my work and leaving your most excellent comments.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

breakfastpop--- Thank you! I very much appreciate you coming by to visit. Thanks for your compliment.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

tony0724--- Hello, my friend! It's great to hear from you. Thank you for visiting my humble Hub. I appreciate your comments, too.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

kaye--- You think Eric Holder and Obama have been subjugated? I have deep seated hatred, huh? I asked you to point out one sentence I wrote which was venomous, vilifying, hateful or untrue. Your silence in regard to my question speaks volumes. I don't know about subjugation? Do you? Have you been subjugated? If you are speaking of your ancestors I say "so what?" I am Welsh and American Indian. The Welsh were subjugated for 600 years by the English. But I wasn't. Do I hate the English or claim special rights today as a Welshman? Do I defend all Welshmen no matter what they do or dance in the street when they are acquitted of murder? My American Indian ancestry I am sure you are familiar with, being a big fan of victim politics as you obviously are. What do I think about it? I think it has nothing to do with me or the times in which I live.

But I surely welcome your point of view here. Thank you for your comments.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

drbj--- Thank you and you are welcome. I appreciate you visiting my Hub and leaving word that you did. I'll be coming to read your work soon.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

kaye--- I took the test and I will copy and paste my results for you to see here:

Below is the interpretation of your IAT performance, followed by questions about what you think it means. The next page explains the task and has more information such as a summary of what most people show on this IAT.

Your Result

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for African American compared to European American.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

cosette--- This one is for you! Thank you for suggesting it. I wish it hadn't taken me so long to get to it. It was far more interesting than I thought it might be. I enjoyed the research and the putting this together. Thanks for your affirmation.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

michiganman567--- Thank you for visiting my Hub. I am also from Michigan. I will go read your Hub and let you know what I think. Welcome to HubPages!


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

Eric Holder is just one more teeming example of the incompetency and backwards nature of this entire administration. It amazes me, in light of all that's occurred so far, that Barack's numbers remain as high as they do, and clearly I think he's headed for a spot right alongside Jimmy Carter's presidency.

This whole concept of criminalizing a war seems absolutely ridiculous to me. But then, I think we wouldn't be sitting here having this debate had Congress officially declared war.

Loved the Lindsey Graham clip.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Springboard--- Obama's presidency reminds me a lot of Jimmy Carter's so far. His numbers remain so high out of black pride and white guilt--the same reasons he was elected. Surely not due to his policies, which are uniformly unpopular. I have had a few meals with Senator Graham and I enjoy his company. He is a very sharp and fair guy.

Thanks for coming by and chiming in. I appreciate it.


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Tom Cornett 6 years ago from Ohio

Another fine hub James....Chilling thought...the administration gets what it wants.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Tom Cornett--- Thank you very much, Tom. I appreciate you saying so. It's good to see you here.


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prettydarkhorse 6 years ago from US

Thanks so much Sir James, I learned a lot from this hub, very informative, scary isn't it? Thank you, Maita


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ateenyi 6 years ago from Chicago

Great Hub James!!!!!!!

The Eric Holder who is behind the brutal massacre of various innocent civilians. The depiction upgraded the knowledge of terrorist networks, who are operating across the globe. Thanks for sharing the information.

Keep on Hubbing


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

prettydarkhorse--- You are welcome, my dear. It is disturbing on several levels to me, the world view of these folks. Thanks for coming.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

ateenyi--- Thank you!! You are welcome. And welcome to HubPages.


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HealthyHanna 6 years ago from Utah

Thank your for publishing this. Your research is awesome. You have the facts to back it up. We need to hear more about this. I think I will send it around.

We've all got to get involved and stay informed in politics.

Part of a healthy lifestyle is a healthy community!


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

HealthyHanna--- You are most welcome. I will appreciate it greatly if you do send it around. I need all the readers I can get. :-)

A healthy community is something we should all want. Enough about "me." Thank you for reading and leaving your compliments.


Hxprof 6 years ago from Clearwater, Florida

After reading some of the feedback (ouch) you've received here I have something to tell you. Somewhere way back one or more of my ancestors was enslaved...I'm going to demand recompense for the treatment they received. You watch you hateful, racist pig you...I'm going to get what's coming to me.

It's wild James. You've done very well handling the unjust criticism, far better than I would have done.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Hxprof--- I think every person has ancestors who were slaves. I am not pleased when I see someone such as Michele Obama sniveling about our terrible country when she was living in a $14M house and had a free ride to the finest universities in the world. Maybe I'm off base. But it doesn't sit well with me. Thanks for your comments. :D


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kayedsc 6 years ago

Glad you took the test and hope the result help you look at life a little differently. Were you surprised at your results? I think that you sometimes get confused but all in all are really one of the good guys. We can always agree to disagree. That is what makes life so interesting. As for Native American, I have some of that and Irish blood too. So when folk who have never seen me or know me dare to say whom I favor or not I laugh because they have no idea.

Michelle Obama had a free ride on the backs of all her ancestors that were denied. They paved her way and mine :D Sure proud of it too!


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

kayedsc--- I didn't know what to expect from the test. But I was pleased with the results and they didn't seem to be congruous with your racist thesis. But of course, we're good. I look forward to further dialogue with you in the future. We can't get anywhere if we don't talk. :)


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point2make 6 years ago

Well done James! well done. This piece on Eric Holder is an excellent and accurate portrayal of the new Attorney General. While Mr. Holder may very well be an honest and decent man at heart he has, unfortunately for us, made the same fatal mistake most idealogues make upon gaining power. In his capacity as Attorney General he serves all the people regardless of their political leanings.... or his. He must be seen as upholding the constitution in all his dealings on behalf of the American people. If he fails in this he will certainly lose the confidence of the people and that will be his undoing. Once again thanks James. I enjoy being taught by a great teacher.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

point2make--- Thank you so much for the laudations. I do appreciate it. I sincerely enjoyed reading your comments. They are deep and knowledgeable. You are most welcome. Thanks for sharing your insights.


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

Hi James, a lot in your hub is misleading; as represented by your use of the photoshopped picture (couldn't help yourself?:) I don't have your tenacity or time, so most of it I'll let go, and merely address the following:

"By treating him as a civilian, giving him the right to remain silent, providing him with a government paid lawyer, the opportunity was lost to interrogate him military style and to possibly gain information about those who want to murder innocent Americans."

The Bush administration did this often. They read miranda rights to the shoe bomber. How is it different here? And as I understand it, Holder and the Obama administration gained lots of good intel from the "underwear" bomber without using "military style" (torture) techniques. But, the way you phrase it with emotionally charged language, "murdering innocent civilians," you'd think that Holder was not interested in preventing that because he will not torture.

You are an extremely self-aware and effective writer, so to say that your work isn't "venomous" is not quite accurate. I wish (against hope because your inherent nature seems clear) that you would use your talent to establish a middle ground.

I'm sure you have valid, good, well-researched points. But instead of questioning Holder's reasoning/motive, you view it from your own, and will probably continue to use inflammatory, emotionally charged language. (I'm also relatively sure you know exactly what you are doing.)

Another note: To say Michelle Obama was "sniveling" might reveal your inner anger and doesn't, to me, appear accurate. But then, maybe I'm just revealing my inner sniveling weakness because I try not to shout insults on the internet?


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Stan Fletcher 6 years ago from Nashville, TN

Awesome hub. I knew Kaye would eventually pull the race card, which she clearly did in her last comment. Once people start calling me a racist simply because I think their views are dangerous and stupid, the conversation is over. Libs always want conservatives to establish a 'middle ground', Jeff, while they continue to cram their lib ideas down our throats.

And the Rosie O'Donnell picture was funny. No matter what your political views are, it's funny. I always that that the liberal Darwin fish on the back of people's cars was funny too, even though I didn't agree with it. It was clever and funny. The left has no sense of humor when we pick on their icons. Rosie made it clear that she is KSM's ally, so she should be proud to have her picture merged with his.

By the way, most don't remember that KSM was the one who personally cut off Daniel Pearl's head. Kill the bastard.


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

Okay Ryan, yes, the pic was funny enough, though not hilarious, and I thought I implied that with my :). And Lindsay Graham makes some excellent points and Holder did a lousy job explaining policy, if there even is a coherent policy. But what's wrong with saying, hey, we need to come up with a something that addresses both sides... a "war on terror" of this sort is new, so we need new solutions, not one or the other. I hope this sort of "middle ground" isn't viewed as throat cramming.


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

Sorry Stan, I called you Ryan. Hope "Ryan" isn't a liberal name.


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kayedsc 6 years ago

If getting justice is pulling the race card then I am truly, without a shadow of a doubt guilty, and happy to be so as well.

Why is it that when the history of how this country stole, subjugated, abused and oppressed an entire race of people the victims are at fault? How does that happen? There is a saying that goes something like this: If you put your foot on my neck in an attempt to hold me down you can't move forward either, you have to stand there with your foot on my neck.

It is only a matter of time. I think that foot of yours is slipping, you might just have to advance yourselves. If the race card is a winning card I'll pull it every chance I get. You can't scare me off with that old line it doesn't work any longer. But then, for me, it never did remember I'm feisty always have been and pray I always will be.

It has been fun and truly informative guys but I have more subjects to address and mile to go before I sleep.

Toodles


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Jeff May--- I guess you're right: I couldn't help myself. I thought the photo was obviously a fake but I found it hilarious. I used it merely to add a bit of levity to the proceedings.

I nowhere referred to torture. And I am aware that the growing backlash among the public necessitated a "leak" that the suspect was divulging lots of great information. Gosh, I don't see any venom in my words. I thought I presented facts without emotion here.

I did not write this to insult or inflame anybody, Jeff. My sole purpose is to educate. I think it is important that this information be disseminated. It is good to have an aware populace. Thank you for your thoughtful comments.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Stan Fletcher--- Thank you! Yes, everything is racial to Kaye. I don't think she understands that to defend someone solely because of their race, such as OJ Simpson, is also racist. You are right in what you say about "middle ground." The Social LIberals are surely not interested in any middle ground. Rosie did present herself as a booster of KSM and considering he cut off Mr. Pearl's head, that is shameful. Thanks for coming by and sharing your thoughts.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Jeff May--- Your followup here is nicely done and does represent a willingness on your part to reach a middle ground compromise. I have noticed in the past week that the position of the administration regarding holding this trial in Manhattan has softened considerably. Thanks for coming back.


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sheila b. 6 years ago

I heard the President refer to terrorists who have been tried in US courts as FOLKS. Not terrorists, not men, not even the common gentlemen, but FOLKS.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

kayedsc--- Well, your philosophy is right out of the Saul Alinsky playbook: the ends justifies any means. I admire you for admitting it.

Justice? When would you feel justice had been done? Ever?

Did someone on this page blame the victims? I don't see it. I think you imagine things that are not real. Nonetheless, I do find your comments entertaining and they confirm many of my thoughts.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

sheila b.--- Folks!? Wow! I hadn't heard that one. Isn't he something? Thanks for sharing that tidbit. Disturbing.


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SheriSapp 6 years ago from West Virginia

I have no idea how/why I missed this hub for so long. I believe that Holder is a complete traitor and an embarrassment to our nation. I wonder how he would have felt if the whites here in WV had stood outside polling places in Nov. of '08 and brandished nightsticks at ANY people of color trying to vote? I bet those white folk would have been prosecuted. Holder's claim that KSM and his fellow scumbags DESERVE to be tried in NYC shows the ignorance and arrogance of this man and his boss. Honestly, 2012 CANNOT arrive quickly enough to please me!!


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

SheriSapp--- You would win that bet without question. White folks outside a polling booth brandishing nightsticks wearing Klan uniforms would certainly have been arrested. I think this case may have been his worst violation among several. I just can't imagine it under any other administration. Thank you for visiting and leaving your comments.


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

To paraphrase you, Holder does not believe America is at war with terrorists, decided that the Christmas Day Bomber is a common criminal, not an international terrorist, seems determined to undermine and expose those fighting the “war on terror,” and believes that foreign terrorists should be granted full American Constitutional rights…..” Since you cannot know what be believes, this is your interpretation only. His actions reflect the Obama Administration’s continuation of Bush policies regarding terrorists.

You state that Holder lost the opportunity (by treating him as a civilian – just as the Bush Administration did with terrorist suspects) “to possibly gain information about those who want to murder innocent Americans." And then you accompany it with emotionally charged photos, e.g., 9-11 jumpers, Bali corpses, and Pearl. The suggestion is inescapable – you want readers to conclude that Holder puts us in danger, increases the possibility/probability that we will be murdered. But Holder is responsible for everything, including having hidden, malicious beliefs and bad joke warning not only that, he’s black. (Gee, was that inflammatory?)

To say that your language (and I’ll now add techniques) are not “inflammatory” seems not quite right, or left, and especially not centered. I recall you writing somewhere that you know you are being “controversial.” Controversy can be fun. Everybody likes to at least watch a good fight or a good competition. And your hubs get lots of reads and responses. I appreciate your success, especially if you are making some money. Are you? I’d like to emulate that success, though not with the same techniques. If you are making money, I suspect it is not as much as someone like Glenn Beck who often seems like he is poisoning the dialogue for personal gain, which seems… not too good for society… or is that socialism?

(I am a capitalist, by the way. I sell an excellent product. A great read as evidenced by lots of reviews including one from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Please go to my website or amazon and buy my novel Where the River Splits.)


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

By the way, I agree with your assessment of the voter intimidation. At least so far, without studying it thoroughly, but who has time for that? But on the surface, it sound bad.

However, just to stir the pot, for fun, the New Black Panthers seem to have acted in ways similar to "tea party" activists. Though I don't recall any tea party activists demonstating around polling places. Some, presumably tea-party people, did like to stand around Obama town halls with loaded weapons.

Both are, I beleive, good examples of the need for moderating the dialogue, embracaing moderate candidates from both parties.


Kaye 6 years ago

Had to come back at you James. You don't know me. Everything is not racial to me at all but when I see and hear it I will always call it out. You guys can soothe each other if you like that is just fine but the fact is that you are one and you don't care to know it or judo and you just don't care. It is ingrained and that is how it is. You just will not leave it alone will you? Oh well, bring it on, I can deal with it, have been all of my life.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Jeff May--- Those photos you cite should be lined up with the KSM section of this Hub. I am making a wee bit of money. Surely not as much as the great Glenn Beck. He is a powerhouse!

I did read about your novel. It sounds interesting and your reviews are very good. Congratulations. I would not know how to begin to write a novel.

Well, thanks for coming by to visit. I've enjoyed reading your comments.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Jeff May--- Voter intimidation is generally considered a bad thing. I do believe we can agree on that. Whew!!

O wrote a Hub called "orlando tea party" about my experience attending a tea party personally just so I could take photos and report on it. I fail to see any resemblance between it and the Black Panthers.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Kaye--- How can I be one!? You sent me to take the racists test and I not only passed but it came out I favored African-Americans over other people. Now the very test you selected for me is invalid? This reminds me of the New Haven Firefighters. Good God Almighty!!!


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Jeff May 6 years ago from St. Louis

"The great Glenn Beck"? :) Hmm, we likley wont agree on that one, unless your definition of great means that you agree with my assessment of him, but I doubt that. Anyway, that's it for awhile... I'm sure I'll feel compelled to comment on another of your hubs... later. Thanks.


Kaye 6 years ago

OK James I concede, I won't think of you as a racist any longer. I'll just think of you as some guy in cyberland that has some strange and wacky ideas. Does that help you feel any better?

I just call it as I see it. When I see that you, or anyone else for that matter, have written or said something off color(pun intended) then I'm going to say something about that.

You seem to think that I support folk simply based on their ethnicity, au contrary. I don’t support or like Michael Steele, Clarence Thomas, or Allen Keys. They make me cringe. I also don’t like Sara Palin or that Hasselbeck woman on The View. In my view (again, pun intended) they are opportunists from the wrong side of the tracks spewing a lot of blubber. I find them dangerous because silly people listen to what they have to say and believe that these two actually believe their own rhetoric too.

I didn’t support or like Kwame Kilpartick or Marion Berry. I think they are pathetic. But I did like and supported John Edwards (boy was I wrong there) and would have voted for him had he beat Obama. I supported Obama not because he is a Black man but because I like what he stands for. I be the first to admit that I am proud that he is an African American just like the Irish were proud of JFK. Believe it or not, I find Obama a bit pompous but I can deal with it, it is not a problem. I love James Carville and Mary Matalin. I didn’t like or support Idi Amin Dada either. I don’t support Hilary or Bill Clinton, still don’t, although, I am tempering my thoughts on Hilary a little (only a little).

As for Jeff May referencing the “Modern Day” Black Panthers (if there is such a thing) and the Tea Party People, I think they both NUTS! They are both radical groups with a separatist agenda.

I have no problem giving folks the benefit of doubt and I’ll wait and see how things play out. I thought Ronald Reagan’s trickle down economics worked but, I didn’t in the beginning. I just call ‘em as I see ‘em and, I am woman enough to admit when I’m wrong. But when I’m right, I’ll do that happy I told you so dance all over your head.

The bottom line is that I will state my opinions. At the end of the day not one the aforementioned folks knows me. When I loose a loved one or have trouble paying a bill not one of them will come to comfort or rescue me and neither will you.

I didn’t find one thing funny about the misrepresentation of Rosie O’Donald. What I did find was that it was in poor childish taste and didn’t lend levity to anything, again, only my opinion.

You see James I’m an eclectic person. I can be liberal, conservative and moderate all at the same time. I support some socialist ideas as well like, SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. I also believe in free enterprise but not when it is tantamount to FREE GREED off the backs of poor and average working class people. I think education should be free to anyone who wants it and who shows the desire to achieve and learn. AND, I believe in free lunch for school children pre K though 12. You already know what I think about immigration in this country.

Utopia? Maybe. I don't know. You see you don’t really know me at all and I really don't care what you think about my ideas. You are entitled to yours however wrong they may be and I am entitled to mine however right they may be.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Jeff May--- You're welcome. I thank you for your fine commentaries. You make good sense in a gentlemanly way.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

Kaye--- Thank you, dear! I feel a lot better now. I have been to a Tea Party as a reporter and I saw nothing radical or separatist. I wrote about it in my Hub "Orlando Tea Party." I went because I had heard on MSNBC how crazy these folks were and wanted to see for myself. Nothing could have been further from the truth. I appreciate your point of view. You are entitled to it and you state it with clarity. Thank you for the stimulating conversations.


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rkhyclak 6 years ago from Ohio

Little late on this, James, but I found this incredibly educating. I had been reading other hubs about Holder (as well as seeing all the stuff going on in the news) and was happy to see you had written on him. Your hubs are always spot on and I feel as if I can trust what you say. Well done and thanks, this answered a few of my questions :)


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

rkhyclak— Thank you for taking the time to visit my Hub. I greatly appreciate your warm words. I'm glad this was helpful. And you are most welcome. :)


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dnewman 6 years ago

You must be on the payroll of "Fix" News! If not you should be...Bending the truth to fit your own agenda. You are so ready to change/ignore the facts for your own agenda. What is really amazing is there are people out there who believe every word!

I didn't vote Democrat this past election but I sure don't intend to vote for the Republican Tea Party this time around. The RTP is an embarrassment and a danger to this Nation! They are NOT like us...

Let's see if you have the nerve to keep this comment up... To quote New York Congressman Peter King's more colorful reaction: “It’s bullshit." Your entire diatribe is "bullshit". See, the "other side" can distort and twist quotes as well.


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James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago Author

dnewman— Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I quoted nine distinct positions of Attorney General Holder and you did not refute a single one. All you did is say I "bent" the truth. What truth? Which of these nine points is not true? Yes, I believe every word I wrote. Tell me specifically what word I wrote is false and I'll retract it.

The Tea Party represents the best Americans. They love their country and oppose those who wish to destroy it. Please tell me one position of the Tea Party you think is wrong. What exactly is dangerous about the Tea Party? What is embarrassing about them? Specifically please.


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sean kinn 5 years ago from Key West and Budapest

Hey! You slipped in some great photo-shopping at KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMED AFTER CAPTURE. That's pretty funny! :-) Sean


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago Author

sean kinn— Thank you for noticing, Sean. I appreciate the visit and your comments.

James


Old Empresario 5 years ago

Yeah, you can keep him. I also don't like his aggressive attempts at suppressing the 1st Amendment.


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago Author

Old Empresario— Gee, thanks a lot! :D

I appreciate this visitation and your comments.


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MonetteforJack 5 years ago from Tuckerton, NJ

Thanks for a very useful hub! I am learning a lot from both your hub and the comments. I am not white, and I am not racist either, but, I get tummy aches from Holder and Obama and their cohorts. It seems to me that they are doing a lot of damage to America, doing unpatriotic acts. It is very frustrating. How can we unseat them? Should we all wait until 2012? Will America remain safe until then?


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago Author

MonetteforJack— You are very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to read my article. I appreciate your excellent comments.

The current mob in power does not have any respect for the Constitution of the United States. They can be unseated.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke

I look forward to reading some of your Hubs. Welcome to the HubPages Community!


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wba108@yahoo.com 5 years ago from upstate, NY

James- I would like to look into these issues further to determine Holder's level of involvement! If the Acorn or Black Panther issues reveal Holder's substantial knowledge and/or involvement he should be promptly removed from office.

These are good campaign issues, they should be relentlessly brought to the forefront by conservatives.

At best Holder is dangerously niave with mild to moderate psychosis and at worst traitor to his country!- WBA


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago Author

wba108@yahoo.com— I agree with your assessment of Eric Holder, WBA. Thank you ever much for your fine remarks. I appreciate you taking the time to read my work. :)

James


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sean kinn 5 years ago from Key West and Budapest

James: Not that I'm a conspiracy theorist or anything, but do you think it's possible the whole Furious Guns thing was just more Gun Control subterfuge? As in, "Oh. Look where Bad American Guns are now, because now Bad People have our guns, and we should have more stringent controls"? I realize I'm being simplistic ... :-) Sean


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago Author

sean kinn— I must confess that I am not up to speed on the whole "Fast & Furious" controversy. I need to check that out before I could try to understand it.

I very much appreciate your excellent question, though. Thank you for taking the time to read my article. Perhaps I need to update it with a section on Fast & Furious.

James

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