Facebook, The Fake Book

If Facebook was a nation...

 it would be the 3rd largest in the world, behind only China and India.

Have you had your Facebook today?

Will you be my number, oops, I mean friend?

Facebook sucks! That's a pretty strong statement considering the 500 million Facebook users who may disagree with me. The fear that someday everyone will be reduced to a number has come to fruition. Welcome. Are you user number 21, 996,555 or 4,567,890? Are you Jennifer's 50th friend or 640th? You see, facebook is currently worth about $25 billion so they very much care if your number is on the board. Congratulations! And your friend, Jennifer, wants as many friends as possible to add "value" to her social status. Who knew you'd be more important as a number than an actual human being? That's terrific!

Who has hundreds, thousands, of friends? Really? Yes, I "know" hundreds of people, but there are categories they fall into that aren't represented on a facebook account, such as "acquaintances", "cashiers I talk to at the grocery store", "someone I said 'hi' to on Thursday", "people I know but don't trust with my personal info", and finally "online only friends".

I've heard the testimonials about how people have reunited with friends and family. But I've also seen the opposite occur firsthand. Mothers who ignore their immediate family, you know the husband and children who live right in their homes, so they can reconnect with long lost BFF's from high school. It's almost un-conventional for me to say this, but facebook has reconnected people with others, yet disconnected them from their real world and the people sitting right next to them.

"But", you say "facebook has really broadened your social circle". And I say, as humans, we really weren't meant to be spread this thin. We weren't meant to have 600 friends.In fact, a close friend of mine did not even notice when I took her off my "friend" list, being one of her 400+ friends. And again, here's my theory; it's impossible to have hundreds of friends. I'm sure she noticed when her crops were starting to die on the one of many famously addictive fb games, Farmville. You would certainly notice if your friend moved out of state, but not if they removed themselves from your fb friend status.

A fb statistic states if someone logs onto fb once that day, they will come back almost every hour for the next six hours.It's like a bodily function because that's as many times as I go pee in a day. That number increases substantially if you are connected with your mobile phone. Also, over half of the users log in every day. No wonder, many employers ban fb at work to discourage workers from "wasting time".

Mark Zuckerberg

Would the real Mark Zuckerberg please stand up?

Jessie Eisenberg plays Mark Zuckerberg in "The Social Network"

It's time for you to meet your maker

Warm and fuzzy thoughts come to mind when I think of the premise in which facebook was created. Take your pick; anger and revenge, hacking into personal files, disregard of social etiquette, enable college kids to have more sex, to be popular, stolen ideas, and ultimately a string of lawsuits.

First of all, Mark Zuckerberg (along with a couple of dorm roommates), who "invented" Facebook originally facemash, had only one friend at the time of it's creation. Ironically, his best friend, Eduardo Saverin, going into the fb venture is no longer his friend and both filed lawsuits against each other. The lesson here folks, is quantity over quality. Dump and betray your best friend so you can have hundreds of other friends.

As you can see, Mark has done well for himself and now has an infinite number of friends at his disposal. Glad we could contribute to his inability to make friends in person and lack of social skills. He was often disappointed at his lack of social status on the Harvard campus where he attended college so creating fb was tinged with revenge. One may also add that fb helps those who don't know how to interact with people in person or opt out of putting the effort into learning this skill. Now they don't require social skills to make a friend. It simply requires an ability to operate a computer and create an online persona/profile.

Maybe I'm being harsh, after all, Mark has a gleaming smile on his face in every picture you see of him on the web. The recently released movie, "The Social Network", portrayed a very different image of this seemingly happy-go-lucky guy we see representing the face of facebook. Unfortuantely for him emails to some fellow Harvard students, who claimed (and sued) to have pitched the idea to Mark, have been leaked. In these emails, Mark tells them to F#?!! themselves in their ear. Pleasant young man. It must be noted that Mark claims the movie is fictional, but has also stated, "I just wished that nobody made a movie of me while I was still alive". Hmmm

Reasons why you love fb and other disturbing facts

  • Jesse Eisenberg speaks about his fb experience. “I had the strangest experience,” says the 26-year-old of his week spent under an alias online to research playing the world’s youngest billionaire, Mark Zuckerberg, in “The Social Network.” “I didn’t put any of my real information in, then I got an e-mail suggesting ‘the following friends for you," and it suggested about five — and one of them was my sister’s best friend from high school.” He hesitates. “I don’t know how they found her. It’s both frightening and phenomenal that would happen.”

There is no question people's security is compromised on fb. This was a heated uproar in May 2010 when it was confirmed that people's security settings, well, lacked security. Nah, that can't be!! I wouldn't have suspected that from the creator of fb who presently considers himself an "expert hacker." RECENT ARTICLE: Security Breach http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304772804575558484075236968.html?mod=yhoofront

Recently there was another security breach. Those that play certain games, even with strictest security setting on their accounts, were sold out to advertisers. Their information was leaked to advertisers. So this was mistake? Hmmm, interesting that advertisers are what pays Mark Zuckerberg's $6 billion salary and people's info was "accidentally" leaked to them.

  • Chris Hughs, one of the creators of fb/former roommate of Mark Zuckerberg's, was enlisted by Obama to work on Obama's campaign. Chris blatantly states he doesn't really know what "community" means and he doesn't like to use that word. But he is responsible for a "virtual mechanism, scaling and supporting community action. Then that community turned around and elected his boss president. His key tool was My.BarackObama.com, or MyBO for short, a surprisingly intuitive and fun-to-use networking Web site that allowed Obama supporters to create groups, plan events, raise funds, download tools, and connect with one another", according to the article on Fast Company. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/134/boy-wonder.html

"A close look at Hughes's efforts and their impact on the campaign sheds new light on Obama's success at the polls -- in both the primary and the general elections". Facebook helped elect Obama.This is great news if you are an Obama supporter, but not if you feel a little cheated by the results.

Other controversial topics concerning fb include:

  • data mining
  • people not using facebook for the "intended" purposes
  • surveillance
  • online bullying
  • promotion of groups such as "pro-anorexia"
  • Various features such as a "groups" feature that allows anyone to sign anyone up to a group as long they are on that person's friend list.
  • no live support
  • kids on fb- not a good idea. Fb was created to make people be/feel more popular and that's never a great message to send to kids. Fb also put them in harms way with online predators. I've seen kids, "tweens", and teens put up profiles that either make them look older, accidentally show personal information like home address, and/or put a fluffy pink kitten and unicorn as their avatar/fb profile picture. Online predators are looking for exactly those hints and dead give-aways.



Do I have a fb account?

Thanks for asking, and yes I have two. One for personal use and one for professional. My personal account consists of a meager number of friends and family. In other words, I've kept it simple. My privacy setting (hopefully) has me unavailable to be searched on fb. My professional page allows anything and everything, but you won't find much personal info on it.

There's a lot of conflicting notions about fb. How can someone feel special on their facebook pages when they are merely 1 in 500 million users? How can someone post status updates about what they are doing when they are always on fb? Do they actually find time away from fb to do something else? How can people really get to know each other on fb when people only post what they want others to know or see about them? Get a real life and grow a real garden! Speaking of gardens, too bad I've outstayed my welcome on this hub and don't have anymore room to discuss the silly games on fb.

Am I a hypocrit for stating my distaste of fb? Maybe, but so is Mark Zuckerberg for creating a website built around friends he never had and a social network in which he compensated for his inability to socialize. I just wanted to make people aware of how they're wasting their time.

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Petra Vlah 6 years ago from Los Angeles

This is awesome and then some; so true and so well written, so funny and so sad. Who needs friends and family when face book is right there to keep us informed how many cups of coffee a stranger had since this morning and what is his/her big plan for the day.

The more "friend" we make online the lonelier we get; a sign of the time? Not much to look forward to in terms of meaningful relationships.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

petra vlah~ I totally agree. I hate the whole fb phenomena. When I got my account I noticed I accumalated more friends but had less contact with my close friends in real life. So I updated my account to have very few friends and family only. If they live near me then they can come see me, not "facebook" me


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iskra1916 6 years ago from Belfast, Ireland.

Great, topical hub!


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

thank you iskra1916! I was curious about fb, and an eternal skeptic. I thought I'd change my mind if I went to see the movie. All it did was spark more doubt so I did my research and came up with a lot of information most fb users may not know.


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Aya Katz 6 years ago from The Ozarks

Izettl, I enjoyed reading this rant. Some of the things you said make a lot of sense. But seriously, you have fifty close friends that you would trust with your daughter? I can't make that kind of claim. The number is much smaller.

Even before Facebook, some people had hundreds of friends, while others only one or two or even none. I have a single Facebook account, and I use it both for publicity for my writing and for real life friends.

You're right. We weren't meant to be spread so thin and to live in isolation surrounded by strangers. We were meant to live in small communities where everybody knew everybody else's business. Now we can have the best of both worlds.


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RevLady 6 years ago from Lantana, Florida

Izettl,

Enjoyable read and you made some valid points that make lots of sense. I tend to distinguish between friends and acquaintances which I consider most facebookers, twitterers and so forth. It has been my discovery that people have very few real friends in a lifetime.

Love, peace and joy in Him!

Forever His,


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Robwrite 6 years ago from Bay Ridge Brooklyn NY

I guess I'm getting old, but I miss the days when people enjoyed regular face-to-face conversations. When did it become a bother and something we have to "make time for" to visit with our friends?

Great hub, Izetti.


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TheManWithNoPants 6 years ago from Tucson, Az.

You're getting better by the hub, I swear. I don't go on face book except to do that link thing when I do a hub. I have my kids and about ten friends on there, but I'll keep my Internet social thing down to my hub buddies.

You're putting these things together so damn strong kid. Keep up the good work.

jim


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carrie450 6 years ago from Winnipeg, Canada

I do have Face book account but with family and friends I've known for years from another site which is shutting down. You make very good points in your hub about ignoring family and friends. What a great hub!


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

revLady~ honored to have you stop by and thanks for the comment. I am also the type to have a few close friends and lots of family who are friends too. I'm actually very private in real life and picky about who I let in. God bless you.

Robwrite~ I know the feeling I'm getting old too because I miss going to coffee and "hanging out". We don't have enough time to see our friends in person, but we have enough time to be on fb for hours? I'm in the saem boat as you! Thanks for the comment.

themanwithnopants~ oh stop with the compliments. I was in a rut about what to write and started getting worried so I went to see a movie but I was late and the only one playing at that time was "The Social Network" about facebook.I'm glad I saw it because it confirmed my original thoughts. It was fun doing the research for it too. There is so much scandal behind fb. We are trusting very persnal info to a hacker!! Thanks for stopping by. I do much more soicalizing on hubpages where there is a chance at enlightening conversation rather than reading about who is mad at who and what they had for dinner.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Carrie450~ thanks for visiting carrie- always nice to see you. I originally started out with lots of friends on fb, but realized I was ignoring and seeing less of my original close friends. I knew I had to narrow my friends down to those I really trusted and cared for. I think it makes them feel more special to be one of 40ish than one in 400ish.


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TheManWithNoPants 6 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Ok .. you suck, but you're still one badass little hubber.

jim


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TheManWithNoPants 6 years ago from Tucson, Az.

PS. I like the new picture. What's that thing in the background?


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

The Seattle Space Center is behind me from a trip almost 2 yrs ago. I can't believe it's been that long since I've been up to my home town. Have a good night or morning themanwithnopants. BTS the "you suck" just gives me more challenge to prove you wrong ;-))


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MartieCoetser 6 years ago from South Africa

Izettl, yes, everything you stressed in this hub is true. I truly can’t disagree with one of your views.

BUT.... in all things there is a dark as well as a bright side. Evil and Good. The choice what to explore, utilize and enjoy, and what to avoid and be aware of, is ours.

My FB account is my open connection with my real family and real friends (in reality). I like to check my account at least once a day to see who has a birthday, a bad day, or something they look forward to, or, or, or.... I like to ‘love’ them with a mere LIKE or a comment (one short sentence). If they really have a problem, I will send an e-mail. FB is in my view like an attendance register for people who know each other personally and are interested in each other’s welfare. Just to state: “Hi, I’m still alive and happy.” Or, when you had a bad day, “Some people drive me nuts!” and by receiving a thumb-UP or a few words of acknowledgement, or by merely poking someone in order for him/her to know his/her face/name popped UP in my mind, is for me a wonderful privilege.

And I know you will agree with me that this is the purpose of FB.

Take care!

PS: I like you avatar. You are beautiful and obviously intelligent.


Sherman 6 years ago

So we need to define what friend, acquaintance, community, social, network, social network, personal, etc. mean in respect to both individuals and groups. I think there is a lot to be done here. I refuse tosign up on fb because I see it as just another mailing list. I have friends that have wanted to be my friends but already from their invitation see their interest to brag about their accomplishments, family, activities, etc. I hear a significant component of fb is boorish. The people themselves outside of fb most often are not boorish in a one-on-one face-to-face encounter, but the manners of fb too encourage boorishness.


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thougtforce 6 years ago from Sweden

I refuse to have a Facebook account! But I was beginning to think I was the only one that had negative thoughts about fb. Thanks for that I now dont feel like a social hermit because I´m not on Facebook!

Good and intresting writing, and nice to se you up close. Your appearance is just as I thought it would be:-)


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MPG Narratives 6 years ago from Sydney, Australia

Facebook has its purpose I guess when it comes to being able to 'share' our hubs and to 'meet up' with people from our past but unfortunately there are just too many downsides, many of which you point out well in this hub, izetti.

Competition will always be a motivator for many when it comes to how many 'friends' they have on their account but do they really believe all of these people are their friends? Most rational people I think would not, its the irrational ones that are the problem.

Whether we like it or not FB is probably here to stay and as long as we protect our privacy I guess we are safe, or at least I hope we are.


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Sweetsusieg 6 years ago from Michigan

When I first joined I spent hours on it... yep, hours ever watching the changing statuses. Now I have so many 'friends' almost no one pays attention to anything I have to say... So I don't even bother anymore. I post my Hubs and that's about it.

I feel as though I wasted a LOT of time...


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roadrunner0924 6 years ago from Denver, Colorado

I have an account and definetely dont use it like I use to, more for games now when I am bored. I have also always prided myself at keeping my friends list small...


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TheManWithNoPants 6 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Of course you know the "you suck" thing was a joke .. cause if YOU suck, then I suck, cause we be twins! We're both "bad to the bone"!

I'm headed to church and thinking about a new topic. Any suggestions?

jim


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breakfastpop 6 years ago

To me Facebook explains perfectly what is wrong with our society. It appears that is so much easier to contact a loved one with a few meaningless words. I admit that I do post my hubs there but I don't see any other value in it.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

martie coetser~ There are certainly 2 sides to the facebook phenomena. I wrote about one side and I think your comment represents great points to made for the other side. We did need an outlet to keep in touch with people we care about, but I believe you are not in the company of many who use their fb account for good and genuine purposes. For me, the purpose has been exploited by majority users and that's too bad. Thanks so much for your perspective and contribution martie.

thougforce~ I question having a fb account all the time, more so after seeing the movie about it. I totally understand your hesitation. As many have stated here, they have very specific uses for it and nothing else, which I think is the best way to do it. Don't get caught up in all the gadgets it has to offer or drama, etc. You're not a social hermit. I often feel like I am too because I don't have tons of friends on fb and some things I like to keep private. Thanks for stopping by.

Sherman- love your comment and totally AGREE! as simple as I've kept my fb account, it can get annoying. I have several invitations, etc I've never opened or wanted to.

mpgnarratives~ you make good points. I'm sure fb is not going anywhere, but as the creator said in the movie. He doesn't know what "it" is or what "it" will become.


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David Stone 6 years ago from New York City

Nice write up, izetti. Facebook is many things to many people, as any large society may be, but in my experience because of its limits on lengths of posts and privacy, everything stays pretty shallow. It's less than it appears, but on balance, I'd rather have people at least interacting with real people than sitting like slugs in front of the TV.

Taking you and me as a specific example, we were highly unlikely to become friends without facebook, yet I regularly get to enjoy your insights and am able to go back and forth with you privately with ease. We may never meet offline, but you will always seem a friend to me and one I admire. So, ya gotta think....


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

sweetsusieg~ great to see you. I checked my fb account often when I first got it and was excited to catch up on old friends, but then quickly realized it was a waste of time. Funny thing is, people say it saves them time, but it actually makes them spend more time on it and then they say they don't have time to see their friends in person.

roadrunner0924~ I was the same way. I never tried the games, but occasionally get a kick out of my fiends fb updates on what they're doing in a game. Thanks for the visit.

themanwithnopants~ I think we're twins- it's confirmed! right now neither of us suck because the topic is how fb sucks! lol.

breakfastpop~ Totally agree with you! I've only posted one of my hubs on my fb account as I've tried to keep even those things separate. Hmmm, wonder if I should post this to my fb account. Connecting less in person will have detrimental effects many years down the road, but I believe it will become evident sooner than later. THanks for the comment BP.

David Stone~ I realize my hub here acknowledges only one side of the topic. I agree there are people I never would have had a connection with if it wasn't for hub pages and now fb. I am glad to have my connection with you for sure. There are benefits and you nor I abuse the use of fb. thanks for stopping by.


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Christoph Reilly 6 years ago from St. Louis

Everything you say is true, but perhaps Facebook is simply the culmination of where society was headed anyway. We have heard for years of shortened attention spans - usually blamed on television - but now fostered by the Internet and the ability to jump from one topic to another quickly. On the surface this "multi-tasking" may seem like a good thing, but college professors and teachers are reporting not only that students have more trouble concentrating on one subject for a length of time, but also their increasing awkwardness in relating to each other on a personal level, which is what you are saying Facebook fosters. I agree, and I see it in my "real" life too.


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drbj 6 years ago from south Florida

Interesting hub, izettl. I know that Facebook can be dangerous to a person's career. Job searchers need to be aware that recruiters and human resource folks use FB to research a candidate's background. Photos of an applicant drunk in a bar or at a party do little for one's image.

I counsel job seekers to use LinkedIn and post only professional, positive information.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

drbj~ yeah I can't believe the stuff people put on fb. Young people who have the rest of their lives to be judged by employers on anything they've posted in their fb or internet. you won't find me posting anything about my Vegas trip- oh wait I've never been to Vegas. Lucky for me I don't do anything interesting enough to post to fb. lol. thanks for the comment.

christoph~ I think it's the chicken or egg scenario. I'm pretty sure the internet was supposed to enable us to have more time doing other things, perhaps enjoying 'real' life, but it's become people's lives. I have a couple younger friends who come to me about their problems sometimes and they mention all the texts sent back and forth and I say how about just calling the person to 'read' them better and well, get to know them better too. fb enables society to drift in this new direction and it's welcomed, by most, with open arms. Thanks for the comment. I might have mentioned you in a recent hub "My Journey to 500 fans".


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New Life 6 years ago from Chandler, Arizona

I agree with everything you have said... Out of all the friends I only can communicate with a handful or I would have to take a full time job with facebook just to answer all the replys... Maybe I should ask to be paid...


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Ingenira 6 years ago

Good points, and funny... enjoyed your hubs and writing as always.

Same as you, I was really excited about FB in the beginning, but as time goes, the interest just die down... and I'd only go there when I need a break from work at computer... (good way to waste time...haha)


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xixi12 6 years ago from Everywhere but here. In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved. You can never be truly free till you have the discipline to manage it.

Thanks Izettl for this wonderful hub. Facebook has its advantages and disadvantages. I also have 2 accounts, one for friends and family and the other for business. Its just a necessary evil, but it comes in handy for networking.


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

I'm often times amazed at how many more vehicles of communication we have in today's world, yet at the same time how truly disconnected we are. Especially, and you rightly pointed this out, to those who are sitting right next to us. All of our communication has been reduced to impersonal, invisible interaction. A text. A post on a Facebook wall. An email. Rarely a phone call. Rarely a face to face. In an odd way, the more connected to the rest of the world we become, the more closed in our own worlds we also become. I'm not exactly sure this is a healthy path for the human race, but where it ends is a real question. I don't think anyone knows.


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Joyus Crynoid 6 years ago from Eden

I held off of getting a facebook account for a long time, knowing that it might turn into yet another addictive time-suck (like youtube and myspace became after I discovered them), something I can really do without. But I finally broke down after getting a few invitations from friends and family. Like you I've kept it down to a small number (45 or so), all of whom I actually know. But it's still a time-suck. Although, much less so now that I spend all my "spare" time on hubpages! Oh well, at least I don't watch TV any more...


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fred allen 6 years ago from Myrtle Beach SC

Love this hub! Love the new pic too! I am a victim of fb neglect. My wife is hooked on farmville. I have very little use for fb except to post my hubs. Most of my friends are members of my church or classmates from 30 years ago. I have no use for most of what is see posted, like what they are having for dinner or how bored they are. Most posts are so trivial, that's why I like hubpages, there is so much more substance. I keep my hubivity down to only the time at work, since I sit in an office all day 5 days a week in solitude. When duty calls I respond but most of my day is down time. When I'm off, it's all about kids and family fun.

Glad you wrote this since I'll never watch the movie. Up and useful!


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Loves To Read 6 years ago

I joined FB to keep in touch with my family as we live many miles apart. At first i spent quite a bit of time on it, especially when my cousins started popping up whom i had not seen in nearly 40years. It was a great way to get connected and led to us all meeting up for my aunty's 80th birthday. Then i found hp and found that this is a wonderful community. In the 11 months i have been on here i have made many wonderful friends. I may now check FB maybe once every couple of months. Usually after an email telling me a family member has posted something.

You make some very valid points though as i know people who spend hours a day on it.

Blessings and Hugs


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Tamarajo 6 years ago from Southern Minnesota

You make great points to consider. When I first got on facebook I must admit it was consuming and addictive. But now as you say who has time to maintain 400 relationships. As you stated also I don't think we were meant to be spread that thin. I have since become disinterested in attempting to maintain that but have found that this same dilemma can occur with any type of social networking and blogging sites including Hubpages.

I think it is important to be conscientious and deliberate about how we choose to use the precious commodity time and make sure the priority is with our immediate family first.

Points well made and relevant.


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justom 6 years ago from 41042

I don't do Facebook but aside from the impersonal part of it I don't see the big deal. Some call them friends, some call them followers, it's just a word. As for the kid that founded it I say so what is he's an ahole, that seems to be what a lot of big business subscribes to. Lastly, on being reduced to a #. I think that starts at birth here in the U.S. when we're forced to have a social security # and that just begins the whirlwind of #'s that follow. Personally I look forward to being reduced to only a #, as long as it's 69 :-) Good thought provoking hub. as usual! Peace!! Tom


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M Selvey, MSc 6 years ago from United Kingdom

Title drew me in...it's a good one! And, it fits! I would not have said Facebook sucks prior to reading your hub but have to agree with you. Personally, I think it can get very boring. It is nice to keep in touch with people but I like your policy about keeping local friends local, not virtual.


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ediann 6 years ago

You have an interesting style of writing and very easy to read. You are obviously well educated and make many great points. I use facebook primarily for posting my writings on autism as I have 3 facebook pages dedicated to autism. I also created facebook pages for my interests such as sports, movies, engineering, music, etc and I use youtube, hubpages, blogspot and facebook all together to have a forum in expressing my thoughts, ideas and vision. I feel we all have something important to say and share and my mission in life is to help my autistic son have a better life and by sharing life experiences and my ideas maybe I can help shed some light on autism. I also enjoy writing about things that make me happy and I hope I can touch someone in some small way with my writings as you have touched people with your writings as well.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

new life~ thanks for the comment. That would be great to firgure out how to make money just socializing on fb.

ingenira~ THanks for reading. YEs, fb has lost it's appeal.

xixi12~ yep I agree about it being a necessary evil and "free" advertising. THanks for the comment.

springboard~ Sometimes I forget my friends' voices, because I haven't seen them in person or talked to them on the phone. Then some people consider ME rude for not responding to texts.I don't know how this will effect society in the future, but there will certainly be an effect.

joyus crynoid~ at least you're not watching as much tv and I find hubpages a little better for good conversations. Keeping a balance and keeping it simple is the best way to do it.

fred allen~ fb itself might not be as bad if it didn't have all the games like Farmville, mafia wars, sorority life, zoo something....I get invitations to "hire" me for their "factory" on some silly game. What? If they knew me at all they'd know I'd never work in a factory. Thanks for the comment and you put it best that there is little "substance" on fb.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

lovestoread~ It's great for getting connected and beyond there, it's really not necessary to check in every day like so many people do. I was shocked to learn people who got it once a day, would come back about 6 more times that day. Wow. Thanks for the comment. Blessings to you too.

tamarajo~ I think what's changed is fb has become people's hobby but it isn't like hobbies in the past where you can involve your kids or teach them how to do something. It is an individual hobby that takes no skill. I treat my time on other sites as my job because I write for a meager living that I'd like to increase. Since I stay home with my daughthter, I either stay up after she goes to bed or wake up early But, as you say, balance is key.

justom~ thanks for bringing your humor and honesty and I agree with most of what you said, but being a number to the government is one thing and being a numbe to a friend is a much sadder state.

M selvey~ thanks for taking the time to read. It's about setting boundaries as to how much time should be allocated to fb because even though it gets boring, people still get sucked in.

ediann~ I completely agree with you and totally support your use of these type of sites for topics with substance. Many people on fb post meaningless statements and even use it as an outlet for gossip. I have no desire to be part of that, but like anything else, it can be wonderful if used for good causes and expressing oneself honestly and creatively.


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mysterylady 89 6 years ago from Florida

Perhaps because I like to be "mystery lady," I never joined Facebook. More and more, I am glad I made that decision. I think Hubpages is different...at least I hope so!


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prasetio30 6 years ago from malang-indonesia

I know this site become a dilemma. Where we can find fake profile come up on facebook. Even kids can create facebook account, they can put fake picture and identity also. But better use and see this site wisely. Although we can't deny about another benefit of facebook, like to make our hub more popular, right. I wish the best for us.

Blessing,


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

mysterylady 89~ so far my purposes for using fb have not benefitted me so it's still on probation with me-lol. I think hubpages is much different. I get more of a sense of community here than I do on fb with 50 of my closest friends and family.

prasetio30~ Thanks for visiting. My friends daughter, age 12, created an account and I saw that she had her house address on her fb page. I told her mom and her mom didn't realize it was on there. Her daughter didn't know the address would show up on her fb page. Kids don't know how to use a lot of the security settings and are prime victims.. I just started using fb to promote my hubs so we'll see if it works. THanks for the comment!


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Shane Belceto 6 years ago from WA USA

YOU surely did your homework and the movie must of effected you as you said I will wait for the DVD myself.

Unlike most the other comments though I am going to have to disagree with you mostly I see Facebook as a great tool to connect, meet new people, spread love and inspiration, spark ideas, share good content like HUGs from friends, etc. Without the vast WWW I would not have people in my life today that I do such as yourself. Conversations would be dull and vorring since they would be with just me and life would be a lot different. So FB for me is a wonderful thing. Now I don't play any games of any kind and stick with all positive stuff on there so maybe that influences my results and feelings for Facebook.

Question have is you have that wonderful HUB about your 500 followers and such ... then this one ... wondering what makes Facebook all that much different then HUBpages? Is it because on here you can earn money and on FB only Mark is making it?

Last thought si I see what Mark did in the success of Facebook coming from like you said a negative in his life as a great negative turned positive story. Even HUBpages, Disney, Microsoft, etc every company in the world has its good and bad.

Trust you know where I am coming from not challenging your great thoughts and HUB here simply sharing my thoughts sparked from it.

~Expect Miracles


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Shane Belceto~ I think someone said it best that fb is a necessary evil. I HAD a best friend for years and since becoming friends with her on fb, I haven't actually seen her in person for 1 year. She has become a fb recluse. That's just one example, but not my main concern here.

As a person who studied psychology, it's a lot different to be friendly and a "friend" online than in real person. There are in-person social skills people aren't getting, especially the younger generation who do everything virtual. There are already signs younger generations do not pick up on social cues and stimulus as well. It's kind of scary that Mark doesn't know what kind of monster fb will turn into- he says he has no control over it. If i post something on hp about certain lewd acts or pics, hubpages picks up on it and gives me a warning,etc. However, this stuff happens all the time on fb and no filter so anything goes. Hubpages has never violated my security and I think that should be a no-brainer for any website. no excuses.

Shane, you can't compare my negative(an uncontrollable illness) to a person who was really mean to people and didn't understand why they didn't like him so he thought the only way was to be popular by something bigger than him. Not at all like my situation- apples and oranges. We've enabled Mark's character flaw. He screwed over his best friend for popularity of the masses. That sounds positive. He stole an idea- that sounds positive too or what about hacking into private school files- hundreds of them so what was his negative. He was rich, going to school at Harvard, had a girlfriend until he openly criticized everythign from the origins of her last name to her bra size on his blog for everyone to read. He was never dealt a rough hand other than having a lack of concern for how to positively socialize with another human being. He was an outcast because he was an A#!?! hole. Nothing was ever done to him to have a "negative" to even turn into a positive.

I've acknowledged the good and bad of fb in a comment above.

Fans and friends on fb and hubpages are different. But I am so glad you brought this up because I wanted to in the hub. It's actually proven my point. When I wrote about my 500 fans, I realized I would be forgetting a lot of them and totally not remembering who many of them are as well, and that's 500 people. So there is no way someone on fb can say they personally know 500+ people if I can remember maybe 100 at most of my fans on hp. The lack of intimacy I have with most of my 500 fans is due to the fact that there are 500 of them so I realized my point is confirmed that most of these alleged 500 fb friends are not really friends but casual, at best, contacts. That is why I have a separate fb account for personal and professional. I am a very genuine person and did not strive for 500 fans as you can see other hp members belonging for 2 years,like myself, have many more fans than me. As for money, I don't make more than a pinch to even acknowledge that question or concern.

I do know where you come from and you bring up points I wanted to make in my hub but was running long with it.

Thanks for the great comment Shane.


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Old Poolman 6 years ago from Rural Arizona

Great Hub, and you mirror my opinion of FB. I think many of the loyal FB users have either forgotten or never knew the true definition of a friend.

Per the dictionary, a friend is:

A person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.

I have a few good friends whom I know I can count on in a time of need. Some of these friendships have spanned over 60 years of my life, and will continue until death do us part.

It would be interesting if an individual claiming 4500 friends on FB put out a plea for help as to how many would respond. My guess is very few.

I guess my concept of friendship was created before FB was even invented.

Anyhow, keep up the good work as I really enjoy your writing style and contributions to the hub world.

Mike


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Old Poolman~ just became a fan of yours and between you and your neighbor with no pants (lol), I will have a bright future of great reading on hubpages.

"I guess my concept of friendship was created before FB was even invented"- love that- wish I had written that myself. Thanks for the comment.


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Shane Belceto 6 years ago from WA USA

Thank YOU for your extensive anser will address several parts ....

First off in no way what so ever did I wish to compare your situation to Marks yes completely different as you said Apples to Orenges ... so moving on

I wonder next would that close friend still of drifted some from you with or without FB? I know in my own lif epeople come and go sort of like the seasons and some just disapear for no real reasons. So was it really connecting and comminicating on FB that got in the way for real? On the other hand being connected her it would be even easier to connect in person by posting on their wall, chatting,or emailing them hey what you up to tomorrow night want to get together? or things like that

Now as for Mark I don't wish in any way at all to support him being an A whole as you put it ... people need to come from love and he did go about things completely wrong and I guess I was missing some of the details that you just filled in such as his girl friend .. I was being more general in which the negative him having no friends and no csocial life became a positive by creating a social ccommunity that extends the entire world.

Now will agree people if only getting an online social life and no off line social life are definently missing something and there needs to be a balance .. just like other things in life there needs to be a balance .. .however for some an online social life can assist them in reaching that off line one ... and for some that may not have much of a social life in person "and unlike Mark not beccause of being an A whole" but just because of other situations may not have friends from like moving arround a lot or disibilities or something .. being able to have a online comminity to rely and be a part of can be HUGE.

As for sacurity I don't feel anything is sucure these days .. yes some better then others but anyone who truly wants can get into banks, government and other places our info is even HUBpages. And yes HUBpages watches better then FB but there still is a ton of stuff on here that may or may not be good for some eyes and teens too could create profiles here just as easily .. they just don't.

I know you are genuin thus I know I can share these thoughts and receive honest replys as shown.

Thank YOU for this .. hugs

~Expect Miracles


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Shane Belceto 6 years ago from WA USA

Back with another thought ... lol yes I know just what you wanted huh .. smiles

I think a big part of the difference between my thoughts and those others leaving comments is what we come to FB with ... most here come with friends in life many for years and years so to get to meet and know people online is something not only very different but unconfortable too.

Some though come to FB shy and alone at times and are able to meet encouraging and great people on FB that build them up, support them and encourage them to be and do more. There are people in life who dont' have friends for years or andy friends at all and so meeting new people world wide makes a bid difference in their life.

~Expect Miracles


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Shane Belceto~ I think we agree on a lot of stuff. I know there are probably two sides to Mark's story and perhaps he ednured abuse in his childhood, maybe not so I can't be any harsher on him than I already have. Let's just say I don't have respect for him.

Anyway, there are probably more good social connections that come from fb than bad, but I also know that when I was a tall girl in school and sometimes got picked on for that, I could at least come home and escape it, but many more teens are taking their lives because of online bullying. Gossip and bullying reaches many more people on the internet and fb being most popular is a little to blame. There is no escape for these poor kids. I also believe that if it wasn't fb, there would be another site, and there are other sites besides fb too.

I knew my friend for 8 years and we talked every day on the phone and she started calling less and then convinced me to sign up for fb. She is ALWAYS on there so it's really ruling her life. She won't talk to anybody unless on fb and even her husband complains. To each is own I guess. I've heard fb called "crackbook" like a drug- for some it is. I've met a great group of people on hp so I can't complain too much.


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Shane Belceto 6 years ago from WA USA

No need at all to respect him and that is your choice ... in good to see others takign a stand for how they feel.

I agree ther eis problems that need salutions and with the web things are going way way to fast ... I will say though I think some of the trouble existed before FB just hte news didn't spread it as fast then as it down now online .. there were kids then doing what they are dong now an deven some I know very well came quite close to shcoosing the sam eending of a life ... just now it spreads fast and far in lots of ways incliuding th enews about it .. but also the salution can spread fast and far too seeing many amny people stand up right now to put and end on the bullying ... Even a great video on Youtube today of a city counsel member saying enough is aenough .. so expect more HUBs to come soon too.

Sad about your friend appears it can be adicting .. perhaps though it wil easier to get away from then other aditctions that would be killing her .... even though this is causing issues with her relationships all over the place it seems. It is like video games are for some teens .. sheesh

Nighty night .. thanks for the great conversations

~Expect Miracles


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Shane Belceto~ Seems we were headed this way anyway, as someone mentioned in a comment above. The online bullying seems more prominent because, as you say, word travels faster especially with fb. I know it's in the spotlight now so hopefully some solutions can be made. My daughter is only 3, but I have to wonder how things will be and what policies I will have to have concerning the computer. My husband has a 12 yr old daughter who lives in Nebraska and I noticed she put up a profile and had her address on it. My husband called her mom right away and told her. HIs daughter had no idea it was on their- scary. Now she puts pictures of unicorns and kittens on her profile, which seems innocent, but tells an online predator that she is young. Not good.

I almost want to say society was headed here, BUT it happened too fast because it seems most of the issues with fb are "user errors" or abuse. People/society was not ready for fb yet.

Thanks again Shane!


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Shane Belceto 6 years ago from WA USA

Well many good things come from FB too such as the push to wear purple on Oct. 20th and each of the videos and groups taking a stand aainst bullying etc.

I have seen similar things with teens in my life to and had conversations with them about internet safety . My daughter is 12 now so know what you mean on the concerns .. however I also know I will be my daughters first friend on any sites she is on and will be keeping both ears on things.

I feel really rather then hating it education may be a better route in explaining the dos and don'ts and why it is best to practice internet safety.

~Expect Miracles


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Pollyannalana 6 years ago from US

I communicate with friends and family through email so I don't really know how I got into facebook, I thought it was a way of putting your hubs out there to people from hubs? It seems to work, I don't chat with them unless I already know them here, starting my own site I thought it might come in handy too. Maybe I should take a better look.


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OpinionDuck 6 years ago

Izetti

While some have called this hub a rant, I would classify it as a critical analysis of facebook.

You mentioned that fb was the key to Obama's popularity, but can you explain how that works?

With respect to having a fb account for business, how effective is that for accomplishing selling yourself or your product?

In an unrelated sense, I think that while hubpages allows us to write, I get the feeling that I am dropping millions of leaflets over the globe only to find a handful of readers.

Back to your hub, there is a saying that you can't put all of your friends in the same room, yet that is the premise of facebook. In many cases it also applies to families.

Excellent hub

~:}


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Shane~ lke I said, it's probably user error, abuse, and exploitation. Yes, our society was headed this way, but I think it was too soon.

pollyannalana~ I think posting your hubs is a great way to get them out there and I use it too for professional reasons like that, networking, etc.

opinionDuck~ I get accused of ranting sometimes because I have a strong opinion. regarding friends all in same room- if we imagine that in real life, how much attention and good conversations would you be able to have with all of them present. I still prefer one on one chatting in person. It's still boils down to quality over quantity. With friends at our disposal, it kind of ruins the intimate connection.

regarding Obama- the article link I posted would explain it well, but in essence, by hiring fb's Chris Hughs, he was the first president to take advantage of the web craze and popularity of fb. Where politics may not reach some, it reached many on fb and made it "popular". After Chris Hughs started myobama.com, groups began appearing everyhwere on fb getting a mass of people involved. Many think it had a big influence on his election. Thank you for your comment and visit. I love the discussion!

I just started my professional fb account and have onl yposted a couple of hubs on it, but I don't see that it's had an influence on my numbers yet.


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Christopher Price 6 years ago from Vermont, USA

You Go Girl!

Every point you make here is valid, and if people consider this a "rant" wait 'til they get me going! You read my "Slap 'Em..." proposal.

I must admit I have a love/hate relationship with FB. I visit it about once a day just to check in and spend minimal time there. I do occasionally get to chat there with my son who recently moved 200 miles away to be with his fiancé, but I also get "friend requests" from people I never was friends with in real life...WTF!

My daughter is commuting to college and keeps in contact with her friends who are now scattered about the country, and that's good.

But I am a FB Widow. My wife got hooked on Farmville and spends 8 to 12 hours there daily. At least her computer is in the living room so we do have confirmation of her continued existence!

The best thing about FB for me is that I was directed to a friend's Hub 2 months ago, and thus began my thoroughly enjoyable experiences here.

As Shakespeare said, "Nothing there is 'tis good or bad, but thinking makes it so".

This was a very good hub.

CP


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

CP~ There are defnitely good and bad to fb, but unfortunately I've discovered more bad. I think the main issues are the way it began, it's a little ahead of our time, and it constantly has some malfunction.

Since I posted this a week or two ago, fb has been on the news twice. Once for a security breach concerning anyone playing a few of their games, like Farmville and the other because of a local man in my city who lured in a 16 yr old girl and sexually abused her. So maybe another issue would be the exploitation of it. Your family, except you wife the Farmville addict- lol, has the right idea about it. I get on there too about every 3-4 days. It has brought me closer to two people in my past.


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Elefanza 6 years ago from Somewhere in My Brain

Fortunately (or unfortunately), I've decided to stalk your hubs, taking for my plunder shared insight and my own nefarious delight of reading someone who has saved me the work of writing similar sentiments. It's so much more enjoyable at times when you see your own thoughts from someone else that it's almost like a higher level of narcissism. :)

I think your point about valuing quality over quantity of friends is spot on. In high school, some girls derived their social status by showing off how many friends they had. I'm not sure if this is typical girl behavior or just some weird mutation that comes about from being in an all-girls school, but I have seen this behavior in another girl from that same environment in another state. And some other girls, come to think of it. Girls are so strange. :)

But back to quantity over quality, it just seems that good relationships require so much investment emotionally that having so many, you do spread yourself kind of thin or risk having just superficial relationships. And facebook terrifies me somewhat as it seems very superficial. So good post!


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newking 6 years ago

Yes,I agree with your logic...and thanks for sharing your view....I have very simple question for you...If so why are you not out of facebook?If you are trying to say that, because of facebook our social life is destroyed...I disagree..It was already destroyed, when 3 wires electricity wire,telephone wire and cable wire conquer the world in 20th century...facebook,myspace cannot be blamed, when whole phenomenon of our social life was changed century ago...and today we cann't live without any of these 3 wires and I guess you are also part of it.


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Elefanza~ somehow I missed your comment here. Yes, I agree completely on the quantity over quality. One of my issues right now on hubpages because I try to remain genuine. It's my biggest pet peave to be superficial. There are special people here to me and I mentioned you along with some others on "My journey to 500 fans on hubpages" hub.

newking~ I hardly talk on the phone. I don't text. I used to talk in person over coffee or dinner with friends. Some of my friends on fb I was really close to and no longer since fb. I stay on there because of sentimental reasons. I still care about htem and if it's the only way I can stay in touch then I will. I have several close friends on there that live far away and that is a good reason to have fb for many. People do have family and friends far away and long distance calls and visits are expensive. I have most problems with fb itself and security problems and the way people exploit it. THanks for your comment.


shygirl2 6 years ago

Wow!!! You sure have a lot of comments on this hub! ;) I use facebook to learn more about my family than I might otherwise know. LOL! It is a good way to keep in touch with those friends and family far away. Often, they won't take the time to call or email me, so I use my fb account to find out what's going on in their lives. Sadly so, I suppose. But, I don't have hundreds or thousands of friends. I don't believe I know that many people close enough to me. Just family and close friends, and a few friends of friends or family...for me. Guess if it means I'm not that popular, I don't care. I have what I need. ;) Thanks for sharing the info most of us were not aware of though. Good work!


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izettl 6 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

shygirl2~ It makes me sad to know that many people I am friends with on fb don't bother to contact me by phone or email. I have more "friends" now because of finding long lost buddies from high school, but less contact with my old friends in person than I did before fb. I have a lot of mixed feelings about fb. Good and bad. Thanks for stopping by shygirl2.


Melissa 5 years ago

Wow, this was an awesome read! So nice to find someone who feels as I do in this Facebook-saturated world! We have had a rash of cyber-bullying among kids in our area as well, and it all happens on Facebook. Scary stuff.

I've had a problem with Facebook personally because I DON'T have an account. I literally never hear from two of my oldest friends anymore (not even by email) because they will only communicate by Facebook. They’ve told me this themselves. It's really kind of sad. I've tried to keep things going by phone, but I got tired of making the effort myself. And I guess I'm being kind of stubborn too, because I refuse to join Facebook.

One very minor point I would add -- I think Facebook has taken away some of the mystery of life. I actually think it's kind of fun to wonder what classmates are up too, or to run into someone by chance and enjoy the mini-reunion. Knowing what everyone you’ve ever met is doing at any moment has made life just a little less interesting, in my mind.

Thanks again for the great post!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Thanks Melissa for the encouraging comment. I also can't believe that people can't send you a simple email and everything has to be on facebook- ridiculous.

One of the so-called advantages was for people to know if you are in a relationship or not so this makes it too easy, and takes the mystery out- as you said,of everyday life and even dating.


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Sunnyglitter 5 years ago from Cyberspace

I love Facebook, but your article really made me think.

I especially loved where you said "facebook has reconnected people with others, yet disconnected them from their real world and the people sitting right next to them".

Wow. So true. And I never even realized it until today.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

sunnyglitter~ I just saw an article on how people usually post the best things going on in there life and for those who are having troubles and issues, facebook can be detrimental to their well-being. So the lesson is, it's not for everybody all the time. We are only beginning to understand the consequences and we do know someone like you, can be responsible with facebook and be OK with it. Others not. Like anything, it's good and it's bad, but the more I'm learning about it, it makes me think- just like you.

THanks for the comment!


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Gyldenboy 5 years ago from Burnaby, BC, Canada

How very true. I never understood the need to grow a hundred person friend list or to be updating facebook everyday.

I keep my list short on fb, and visit only a few times a month. I'd delete my account, if there was some better way to consistently keep in contact with some of my friends.

This is a great article. Especially in this age, when social media is on the rise.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Gyldenboy~ I feel exactly the same way. Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you saw the need for an article like this that presents the other side of social media.


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OpinionDuck 5 years ago

Izetti

Excellent hub, I am sorry that I missed it when you first posted it.

Facebook, tweets, smart phone, dumb users, hubpages.

These could be chapters in a book.

The name of the book might be called

HOW TO RAISE AND HARVEST HUMAN SHEEP.

At one time there was a smart saying, " You can't put all of your friends in the same room".

Why would it be any different in a Virtual Room on FB?

What was wrong with Emails and IM?

If you have a 1000 FB friends, how many of them would you send Christmas or Birthday Cards to, I mean real physical picked out in a store and sent snail mail containing your handwritten message and signature?

And how many of these types of cards would you expect to receive in the snail mail?

There was a time when the Town or City was the social center, and then the towns got replaced by the Malls, and now it is the Virtual World.

Now with smart phones, you can FB, Tweet, read your emails, do a hundred other things while walking across a street or driving your car. Of course the people that you would physically meet in those two situations could have a deadly embrace.

Voted up


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

OPinion Duck~ "how to raise and harvest human sheep"- brilliant! Enough said. I just love your comment, even about putting all your friends in one room.

I'd love to make up one of those facebook quizzes about how to tell if someone is really a friend- with questions like do they send you a card or personal email? Have they ever been there for you in a crisis or time of need? Let's see if the average Joe has 400 friends now.

I hate to say it, but it reminds me when my sex ed teacher said whoever has slept with the person you sleep with, is essentially who you've slept with also. So if you've had one sex partner and that person slept with 100 people, then so did you, now you have 101. All the junk that gets mixed in with your personal info on facebook is up for grabs by anybody who is friends with your friends so the same principle applies.

I definitely miss the days when my friends and I would chat over coffee on a regular basis, now I'm lucky ot get an email.


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independentwriter 5 years ago from the Snowy Northeast

Good hub! I think many people use it to escape reality. Apparently there is nothing like escaping from reality by dreaming of an alternate life as a mobster, farmer, etc.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

independentwriter~ alternate life as a farmer- ha, that sounds funny. it's fine to have an escape or a hobby, but some people spend more time on that than in real life. When that happens, they become dependent on it and are only escaping something they could or should be dealing with.


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LittleFairy 5 years ago

you are so right. I don't add strangers as friends and it has saved me a lot of headache that other friends of mine go thorugh. You never who's telling lies over there.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Little Fairy~ since people don't know exactly what can happen by adding people you don't know very well, it sets people up for security isues. THanks so much for commenting


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PK2010 5 years ago from United Kingdom

Really enjoyed reading this hub. You made some interesting points. Facebook gives the option of hiding the real you from "your friends". I have a facebook profile which I have deactivated as I have given up "facebooking" for lent. I must admit I thought it was something I could not do, having got quite addicted to it whilst I was on maternity leave. Now I'm back at work and have that and my four children to keep me busy I don't even think about going back to facebook.

I agree with you about the numbers and how it creates a kind of social impression for some users- the more friends you have the more popular you are, really? I must admit I have fallen into this category. I have over 500 friends on facebook and I keep questioning why I have allowed this to happen, as there are only a handful I communicate with. It makes you question the definition of "friend", a stastic on my friend list or a friend I can lean on?

I'm going to say facebook is great, but not so great, because from my experience, people would not be caught dead tagged in a horrible looking photo. Everything has to be picture perfect otherwise it presents a bad image to their friends. This however does not present the real you.

I am 100% with you on the fact that facebook is not great for kids. My almost 12year old keeps asking me why he cannot sign into facebook. Some of his friends are, he keeps telling me. In my opinion however a social networking site where security is not so tight, where you can lie about your date of birth and not get caught, is never a safe haven for children.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

PK2010~ thanks for reading and commenting. Sharing your experience with facebook brings up some good points too. People don't realize how easy it is to get caught up in it and also how many friends they can end up with is unrealistic. THanks again for sharing.


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Jackie Lynnley 5 years ago from The Beautiful South

So many I want to read of yours but I had to pick only one more for tonight. I do agree Facebook sucks, but it does let us get some of our writing out there and potential followers. Last week though I clicked a name they suspected wasn't really a friend and so they were going to have to penalize me four days unless I took back my invites I already had in...well no way...so that gave me til Sunday and to make sure I waited til Monday. Now I just got back and they are saying the same thing so I have no choice but to click take back my invites and they penalize me another four days! Like I believe some of these people really do have over 10,000 + real friends at Facebook. Yes I guess I have to play the game and by their rules but I don't have to like it, or pretend it is real. It's sort of reminds me of here. You have a bad hub, it could be this or this or this, fix it and we will put your hub back up when we can get to it! I am laughing but it is true and I just have the worst luck.


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Jackie~ so true, part of the game. Weird rules everywhere. People use facebook for different reasons, personally versus professionally (social media marketing) is different. We are social creatures but I'm not sure online is what nature intended for us. It makes it easier to keep up with more people, but the relationships are more shallow.


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SueShepard 5 years ago from USA

This is great! Love it!


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izettl 5 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

THanks Sue for the wonderful comment.


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Dubuquedogtrainer 4 years ago from Dubuque, Iowa

Excellent! I love a person who calls a spade a spade and I have been experiencing the same sentiments about Facebook lately. In fact, I was just having this conversation with my hairdresser this evening! Thanks for writing this - it was an enjoyable read.


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VendettaVixen 4 years ago from Ireland

Really have to agree with you on this. You read in the newspapers about at least one kid killing themselves every week because of bullying on FaceBook. I know in the UK there's been at least one 11 year old. How does a person that young even know how to do something like that?

I recently joined FaceBook to share my articles with friends and family, and they all congratulated me! As if I was finally "cool" and "hip."

Personally, I'm uncomfortable even using it. There's just something creepy about getting random friend invites from someone I've never met in my life.

But you really said it. FaceBook sucks, and that's that.

Edit: And you know that once you upload a photo onto FaceBook, they own it? They can sell your picture to any advertising company, who in turn can use it in their ads. It's in the terms of agreement - those terms that reach fifty pages in length and that noone ever reads.


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Dubuquedogtrainer 4 years ago from Dubuque, Iowa

Wow, Vixen, I did not know that. I will be removing the photos on my personal Facebook page.


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izettl 4 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

THank you VendettaVixon and dubuquedotrainer. I also didn't know about owenership over our photos and info. Wow! I hate it even more.


Sanxuary 3 years ago

I have been saying this same thing for years. I have never fallen for it and never will. I have no cell phone and the only one who bugs me about it are employers who expect me to pay for it, so that they can harass me when I am not working. I will never go on face book or anything equal to having an advertiser with a direct link to my life. Think of all the dumb things you should never say before you think and you got Face Book. Imagine all the dumb things you said but time erased such things said but face book has not erased anything. If you need to be connected they have this thing called a phone and an automobile. When I dated, a Girl got 2 minutes per mile from my home to hers. If it was passed that time it was time to hang up or get in your car and come visit. I think its a pretty good rule for just about anyone accept annoying relatives maybe. Excellent Hub.


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izettl 3 years ago from The Great Northwest Author

Sanxuary,

There's a fine line between staying connected nowadays and getting consumed by social media like facebook. People lose contact with you for not being on those types of media. It's crazy. I can't imagine having my whole social life on a computer. I really wonder what will be the outcome for the younger generation having had their lives out in the open and not socializing face to face with people.


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fpherj48 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

izettl......Hello there! I could now write enough to become a BOOK, but of course, I won't. Actually, I don't need to. You've done a perfectly marvelous job of saying it all for me. Thank you!

To put it mildly, I really have nothing positive to add and surely wouldn't argue with you. I am not a FB'er.....have no intentions of becoming one and will continue to resist all requests, begging and/or attempts at pulling me into the trap!

You are a wise, sensible young lady with a healthy, valuable attitude/outlook!.........UP +++


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Julie K Henderson 20 months ago

You make several excellent points in this article. I've read most people can't manage more than 150 authentic friendships, and I wonder if this isn't a more realistic number. In addition, I have observed the ways in which Facebook has promoted disconnection, and I hope more people will become aware of this potential hazard. Thank you for sharing.


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monia saad 18 months ago from In my Dream

You touched a large part of the suffering that I feel it. I have a lot of friends on Facebook However I feel lonely. I miss always sit with true friends. The giggle different and even when I'm sad there was always of see it in my eyes. Unfortunately, we lost the most beautiful in life, a real communication. Thank you for the wonderful article


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izettl 18 months ago from The Great Northwest Author

Thanks Monia for stopping by. Yes, I agree- I recently was writing another article about this. I noted how we now have emoticons that "say" what we feel yet it forces us to actually not say the words..."I feel..." We've become detached from feelings in this way and let's be honest, when we write "LOL" it means laugh out loud but really we usually just chuckle or barely grunt yet if that conversation had happened in real life most of time I bet we'd actually laugh out loud because it would be real and in moment.

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