Fast And Furious Immunity?

Commonly Known As Stonewalling

Unbelievable If Found To Be True...

I've been writing about Operation Fast And Furious since the death of Border Agent Brian Terry and the scandal began to surface. It now appears that the longer AG Eric Holder stomewalls the issue and has his department continue the cover up in progress that the more digging is done behind the scenes. What you are about to read here you won't hear from The Lame Stream Media. I am certain of this.

Here's the headline that drew my attention to the story I am about to relate and it isn't a pretty picture: 'Fast and Furious' Linked to Immunity Deal Between US and Sinaola Cartel, Trafficking Defendant Alleges in Court Papers. I have to give the story at least an ounce of credibility because it seems in this administration that they want to play by their own rules rather than the rule of law and doing the right thing. That's the Chicago way. This is disturbing if found to be true and with the federal government running amok like it is it is entirely possible.

If you've followed the case as it winds its way through both Senate and House investigative committees you should pick up on the fact that the Department of Justice is deep into the cover up of the actual facts concerning this gun running operation that has resulted in many deaths since its inception. Subpoenaed documents have been redacted to the point that maybe one sentence on a page can be read. Holder has stonewalled Congress about the production of evidence and personally appeared now many times before the committees acting like the falsely accused choir boy with his panties in a bunch. If he didn't know anything about the operation, which he should have as the Attorney General, he is guilty of dereliction of duty if nothing else. But he knew and no matter how he wants to present it the evidence says he knew long before he contends he was made aware of the facts. But he sure isn't telling what the facts actually are.

There is a Mexican cartel drug trafficker, Vicente Jesus Zambada-Niebla, in custody in northern Illinois of all places awaiting trial for smuggling tons of drugs into our nation. In a court pleading this past July in federal court, he contends that the Sinaola cartel received guns from Operation Fast And Furious under an immunity deal worked out with the cartel and the US government. That deal was made in exchange for information being supplied about rival cartels. He went on further to claim that the deal allowed the Sinola cartel to continue smuggling drugs into this nation.

He is asking that documents be provided concerning Operation Fast And Furious be supplied to his defense team in order to prepare for his defense. Good luck with that because the United States Congress can't seem to get what they ask for. Representative Issa's investigation has found that the majority of the guns involved were supplied to the Sinola cartel. Just coincidental I suppose. Zambada-Niebla supposes that the documents will show that our government has a pattern of providing bennies such as immunity to cartel leaders, including his own, who are willing to rat out rival gangs. He claims that he was granted immunity from prosecution from 2004 through 2009 covered by the immunity agreement with the Sinaola cartel. Court documents show that Zambada-Niebla alleges that the Sinaola gang was given carte blanche to smuggle massive amounts of drugs into the Chicago area and other parts of the nation for snitching on other gangs. Somehow I personally have to believe that is possible in light of the scope of Fast And Furious.

Of course federal prosecutors deny the existence of any such deal having been made. So why did the majority of the 2,000+ guns end up in the hands of the Sinola's? Then try to explain why the feds filed a motion to suppress under the Classified Information Procedures Act this past September. According to federal prosecutors back in the September hearing Zambala-Niebla's allegations have no merit. They contend that the documents aren't relevant and not part of the discovery process.

At the time of his arrest in March of 2009 he was working on behalf of the Department of Justice, The DEA, the FBI and Customs and Immigration Enforcement. It is also interesting to note that sent a letter to Holder in July of 2011signed by Grassley and Issa, stating that it appears that not one, but multiple agencies within the DOJ were employing informants inside the drug gangs in Mexico.

Then this question arises. If all the evidence indicates that the DOJ was allowing this gun running to occur, and it does, whose money was being used to pay for the employment of these informants as the weapons were fed through the pipeline to them? Yes, it would be the US tax payer on the hook once again.

Have a Happy 2012. Fast And Furious isn't going away. The plot just seems to thicken as it goes along.

As Always,

The Frog Prince



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WillStarr 4 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

The Obama administration has been misleading us on guns in Mexico right from the get-go.

Remember when the BATF said that some 90% of the traceable guns in Mexico came from the US?

See that word 'traceable"? Why was that thrown in there?

Because only about 13% of the guns had serial numbers, AKA: 'traceable'. Most Mexican guns are from China, and other outlets, not the US! And most of those countries do not serialize guns unless they are shipped to the US.


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breakfastpop 4 years ago

Great reporting. Holder, in my view, is a criminal and should be removed from the DOJ immediately. The American people are at the mercy of an administration that has an agenda at complete odds with the best interests of our nation. Up and awesome


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

BPOP - It should be duly noted that the individual assigned the duties of top law enforcement official in our nation is incompetent, a crook himself and a liar.

The Frog


Stu 4 years ago

Disgusting, but believable. I bet Zambada-Niebla got an ObamaCare waiver too. :)


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drbj 4 years ago from south Florida

Why am I not surprised, Frog, at this latest Fast and Furious information? All these machinations of Holder and Company would be laughable if they were not so tragic. November cannot come soon enough. Out, out damned louts! (Bill Shakespeare won't mind my appropriating his language.)


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

Frog,

This is and outrage!!! How can you say things like this!!! Our president and Eric Holder are wWAY TOO intelligent and open book type public servants who could never do something like this... a nice couple of "super smart"s typical Chicago boys not doing anything wrong

and who would care anyways when Democrats do this- no one seems to care if guns fall into violent gang members possession but if herman Cain can not leallydiscuss alleged sexial advances that were agreed upon not to be discussed futher that is the big story - Herman Cains alleged advances did not get border agents killed

but I guess I am concerned about thre wrong things

TH


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Minnetonka Twin 4 years ago from Minnesota

So many lies that it's hard to keep track. Depressing :(


Ghost32 4 years ago

Frog: Figure you mean the "Sinaloa" cartel, Jim. Which bites a little extra hard for us, since that's the bunch running roughshod over our neck of the woods in southern Arizona.

Well written and disturbing as usual.

Voted Up and Ugly--well, there's no Ugly button, but, you know....


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moonstruck4ever 4 years ago from somewhere in upstate New York

Great reporting frog! Voted up and kudos.

I am not surprised, sadly. Not surprised at all. And I bet once the dirty laundry is all brought out (which I believe will happen someday), it will be even uglier than we can imagine.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

One and the same Fred. It's no wonder they are so thick there since they had the opportunity to buy the most guns. This is getting pathetic and Obama just seems to ignore it. Of course Eric Holder and Obama are tight as ticks.

ms4e - If the Lames Stream Media ever started doing their job, which they won't, a lot of things on the political scene would never occur in the first p;lace because they'd know the spotlight would hit em quick like.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 4 years ago from Rural Arizona

The sad part of this is if Holder will not do the right thing and step down,and Obama will not fire him, we are stuck with him. I would think that Holder is becoming an embarrassment that Obama cannot put up with much longer. Obama's dream of reelection could be seriously affected by Holder's actions. I don't think Holder can continue to hide behind Obama for much longer.


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WillStarr 4 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Selling guns to Mexico makes it an international incident, and such endeavors can only be authorized at the highest level...the White House.

This is Obama's Watergate.


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poetvix 4 years ago from Gone from Texas but still in the south. Surrounded by God's country.

It's the enemy within that will be our demise, not the ones from without. And people wonder why we are broke, why our youth has the morality of a rabid goat? This is sad and shameful but I doubt not a word of it. Well done, Sir Frog, well done indeed.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

OP - Holder is a liability and see Will's comment below. The scope of what was going on had to have the approval of the White House. Why the continued massive cover up and lying? It should be obvious to all Americans that both Holder and Obama are dirty as can be on this scandal.

Will- I wholeheartedly agree brother. This took authorization well above Holder.

poetvix - My sources are usually impeccable. This isn't exactly something that far fetched in view of what we see from this administration.

The Frog


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tom hellert 4 years ago from home

Froggie,

you could rename this the slow the dimwitted and the mexicans....

TH


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RealHousewife 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Fascinating read Frog - wow! I had no idea...oh my gosh. We had someone here that was arrested for having the largest stash of illigally imported weapons in the history of the ATF. He was having these police in very small towns sign paperwork saying they wanted to check the weapons out for possible purchase...only thing was no one could figure out why a little bitty town in the middle of no where would need AK-47's in the local PD. Eventually they all got caught....the guy had a flame thrower on his property as well as having had an army tank brought in on a train....he only got 4 years in a Federal prison. It wasn't that hard for him to get his hands on anything and get it here. Scary!!


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phdast7 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Very interesting Hub. I hadn't been following the situation too closely (endlessly grading college history papers and exams, so all the details and explanation in your article caught me up. What a mess. :( I am sure you already know this, but you write very well, a pleasure to read.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

phdast - I had a senior department head that I will always remember well. He once went on a rant at the class taking his capstone course about their inability to write. Over the years I had done my homework and knew he wasn't talking to me in particular. The ability to put at least two coherent sentences together is sometimes becoming a lost art and it shouldn't be.

The Frog


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phdast7 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Frog- I couldn't agree with your final statement more... I teach history and every semester about 75% of my students are freshmen. I do not ask them to write a term paper, even though I wrote many in my freshmen year of college. From long experience I know that most of them cannot write articulate logical paragraphs, much less a 10-12 page paper.

I do give them many opportunities to write; some of them tell me they got all the way through high school, graduated with a B+ average and never wrote anything longer than a paragraph' almost all their exams were multiple choice, fill in the blanks or connect the dots.

Every test and exam in my classes is essay based, 2-3 page essays for freshmen and sophomores and 5-7 page essays for Juniors and Seniors. Do they whine about i? Of course, they do. Would it save me many hours of hard work each week if I gave multiple choice tests and ran them through a Scantron grading machine? Of course it would.

I am not a saint; I would love to have 8-10 extra hours a week for myself. but if there is one thing I am determined to do, it is this. Every student will leave my class writing better than when they came in. Better writing by its very nature requires better thinking; better thinking lasts for a lifetime. Ok, I think my rant is over. Thank you for listening.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

ph - It was my pleasure. I always like a good rant

myself :)

TFP

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