Gays Protesting Chick-Fil-A Is But A Harbinger...

Source

Gays Protesting Chick-Fil-A Is But A Harbinger…

My beloved mother loves Perry Mason and the late Raymond Burr who portrayed the brilliant defense lawyer, but it came as a shock to my mother when she found out that Burr was gay… upon hearing this news then, did my mother stop watching Perry Mason - of course not. The very position that the owner of Chick-Fil-A has about marriage - that it should be between a man and a woman, as commanded by God through his Son, the Christ, is the same my mother holds, but she did not see fit to boycott the Perry Mason reruns… but not so for many gays toward Chick-Fil-A and its owner. Even some politicians, like Christine Quinn, a prospect for the New York Mayoral-ship and who is openly gay and others are spewing hateful diatribes against Chick-Fil-A.

Like always, only the left leaning positions are supposed to be aired and have the protection of our cherished First Amendment… but say anything about homosexuality, in love and adherence to the Gospel, and you are deemed a pariah monster and is a candidate for ridicule, ostracism, or worse. This attempt to muzzle Christians on this issue on whether there should be same sex marriage is but a harbinger of things to come…. Do the gays who are acting militantly against Chick-Fil-A really want to go down this road with the boycott and the like?

I am always amazed of the tyranny of the minorities and that said minorities like these gays are showing their true colors because I have written ad-nauseum that if many gays had their way… that they would have all those preachers who take a traditional view of marriage arrested for 'hate speech.' But homosexuals and lesbians should know no matter what a President (Obama) or Vice President (Cheney) or Hollywood or even some Christians who support their right to get married will not force Traditional Christians in turn to support what we consider a perversion of the Word of God.

If gays do not get the import of the Traditional Christians’ stance on this critical issue, then let me be succinct. We believe in a literal burning Hell, whereby any willful breach of God’s Word, and, moreover, now even calling Him a liar on the issue of homosexuality is a grave undertaking… this is so because we read the import that issue had on God that He came down and broke bread with Abraham before He destroyed the people who were engaged in behaviors... among them homosexual acts the Lord considered an abomination.

I supposed when my daughter wants to watch the Lion King or see the Broadway Show of the same name that I am going to say no because Sir Elton John, who composed most of the notable songs, is openly gay; likewise, no more Sesame Street in my house too because it is alleged that Jim Henson was gay - but I would do no such thing... not that I will now go out and watch some perverted nonsense like Broke-Back-Mountain, but Christians are not as vindictive - though we have the numbers to be so - like those gays and their supporters protesting and boycotting Chick-Fil-A. It was quite a display of support today to see all those who see eye to eye with Chick-Fil-A owner’s position on same sex marriage out around the country.

Gays should know that if all Traditional Christians should decide to vote and cater to their religious conscience/beliefs… the results would be devastating to gays, but alas, the very Christ who proscribed homosexual behavior would also chastise us for behaving in such a manner He would deem unchristian... incidentally, I do not support bestiality or incest, I supposed now all the Libertarians will be up in arms now too….


More by this Author


Comments 24 comments

StegToDiffer profile image

StegToDiffer 4 years ago from New York, NY

Were you suggesting Jim Henson was gay? Jim Henson wasn't gay.


Josak profile image

Josak 4 years ago from variable

Not gay but I find your intolerancet horrible. I totally understand not wanting homosexuality in your life but what right have you or I or anyone else got to tell other people what they can and cant do with their loved ones, its opression pure and simple and supporting it is no better, all the better that such intolerance is rapidly dying.


StegToDiffer profile image

StegToDiffer 4 years ago from New York, NY

I mostly agree with you Josak. It isn't right that government should have any say at all about who should get married. Personally, I can't say I support the practice of homosexuality. But my main point is that the government has no right telling people who they can and can't marry.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

You find my intolerance horrible because i do not believe in that behavior - my Christian beliefs is not a popularity contest and JESUS forbids that even if myself were to engage in that behavior it still would be wrong because it is what the Scripture says and nothing could convince me otherwise.


Josak profile image

Josak 4 years ago from variable

No I dont mind that you dont believe in that behaviour, that is your right, what I find intolerant is presuming you have the right to tell others how they should live their lives based on YOUR beliefs above theirs, that is wrong, that is intolerant, no one is asking you to be gay, no one is asking you to hang around with gay people (though the few I know are all great people) all anyone is asking is of you is dont force others to follow your religion. Simple, everyone has the right to make their own choices.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

I am forcing gays to follow my religion simply because I state my beliefs -many of tem are the ones who want to teach children about that behavior/lifestyle before they reach the age of majority... or usurping those of us parents religion is gainst such behavior. You are wasting your time on that issue because I know my Bible and I know I will be hated for espousing the Gospel. I find it strange that gays are going ofter Chick-Fil-A when the President supposedly held the same belief a few months ago before his apparent enlightenment. No matter how much you call me names... you will not move me from that position because once again the very Bible told me this would happen.


Josak profile image

Josak 4 years ago from variable

I told you i don't mind you expressing your beliefs, you can go hold a god hates fags sign if you want and it won't bother me. The problem here is not people disagreeing with gay people getting married but with taking steps to make it impossible for them to get married, see the difference?

You have the right to be intolerant, you don't have any moral right to force people to follow your intolerant beliefs. If gay people want to get married you have no business stopping them, full stop.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Josak is right - you have all the right in the world to be intolerant, but you have no right whatsoever to force anyone to follow your beliefs.

God did not create marriage, priests did. All people are asking for in the gay marriage issue is for religious beliefs to have nothing to do with a CIVIL contract.

Unfortunately, one who seems to be as blinded as yourself, by your hatred, always seem to grasp on to the "the Bible has told me this would happen", are blinded to the fact that this is NOT the second coming, and that by Judging others YOU are in fact attempting to do the work of the God who's word you spout. Only GOD can judge - and you are not He.

(also known as "let those without sin, cast the first stone.", and..."People in glass houses should not throw stones.")


Shadolyst profile image

Shadolyst 4 years ago from Burlington, Vermont

First of all, please don't lump gay people into a generalized group of evil doers, it just makes you sounds naive, especially if you don't know any of them personally. You can't believe everything you see and hear. But it's true, there are fanatical gay groups who choose to do unwise things and give gay people as a whole a negative reputation, but the same goes for Christians. I've known many Christians who claim to know the Word inside and out and all about God's grace, and yet show absolutely no love whatsoever. I grew up in the Christian world watching and listening to all the talk, seeing very little put to action. But in the last six years I have witnessed more love and sacrifice from gay people than I ever have from my church. And it changed me for the better. As hard as it is, I've learned to love those who hate me, and if that's not an act of God I don't know what is. Perhaps gay people are here as a test of tolerance and love, and not to be used as a scapegoat to blame all of the worlds problems on. Christians nowadays need to spend a little more time spreading God's love and mercy and leave the hail, fire and brimstone part in His hands.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

Once again, I believe that the Bible is the word of God - I cannot and will not cherry pick in what to believe... even the behaviors I myself have engaged in that are offenses to God. What some people call intolerance... I call adherence to the Word of God.


Josak profile image

Josak 4 years ago from variable

Do you stone people to death for working on Sunday? Do you stone women to death for not being virgins on their wedding nights? If you don't then that claim is false, you do cherry pick.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Verily, I'm gathering then that you have no issue with slavery, and denying equal rights to black people? The Bible had something to say on that. So, I'm gather you have no problem with racism either, unless it's at you. But wait, the world didn't end when black people were given their human rights of inclusion, did it? But oh golly wasn't it a big to-do when 50yrs ago, the same arguments were used to say that inter-racial marriage was wrong.

Going on from Josak's post - I gather you do not touch a woman during the 7 days of her period (and ?7 days after?) as she in unclean, according to Leviticus. Tell me, how do you go about that? Particularly walking down a crowded street? "Sorry, ma'am, but are you menstruating?"

Hmm, what about shellfish - you eat that? OHHH, check your underwear - Leviticus prohibits the wearing of mixed fibres - if you have polyester/cotton blend undies.....shame on you.

You're cherry picking, Verily, whether you see it or not. You are using the word of God to promote hatred. God would frown on that.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

You are equating being gay to being Black - all I know in the Old and New Testament homosexuality is a grave sin and no where in the Bible it is an abomination to be Black... did slavery descriminate in the Bible - and who have been more enslaved than the Jews? The Law, which spoke on shell fish and the like - was given to Moses and Grace wa given to the Christ. And note the grave sins that are spelled out by John the Revelator whose testimony was given to him by Christ. When Mary was about to be stoned - Grace came into play but Christ also told her go and sin no more and when Jesus was met at Jacob's well by the lady who was sleeping with many married men He told her not to do so- was Christ engaged in intolerance too. When Christ referenced Sodomy by saying that it will be more tolerable for those in Sodom then than for those of us who hurt children or refuse to hear and adhere to the Gospel. Gentlemen, you cannot sway me from the Word of God because He is not a man that He would lie. I cannot go to Heaven believing it is ok to sleep with another man's wife or engage in lying or anything God says is a sin. And I kmow many of you believe that those of us who are against same sex marriage are hateful, including the Apostle Paul and John the Revelator whose homilies were given to them by the Christ. Do Christians breach the rules of Christ, yes we do, but we pray for forgiveness and we hope that the Christ does not allow the curse as Paul say is having a reprobate mind and being cursed to believe a lie. Like how I cannot convince you that everything that God say is sinful is so, likewise even if i myself breach the tenets of the Bible and we all do... it is sinful and we must pray for forgiveness. When we engage in behaviors that are wrong a described from Genesis to Revelation... it is so and we compound the problem when we say it isn't so... calling God a liar... I cannot and will not do so, even at the cost of my very life and I hope the Christ gives me the courage of my conviction in that respect.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Verily - The Bible was use to fight against inter-racial marriage, and the abolishment of slavery. You can't deny history.

Sodom, Genesis 19 - I know the story well. I also know that Jesus spoke of the sins of Sodom and Gommorah in Ezekiel -

16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

16:50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

Please see: http://hubpages.com/politics/Biblically-Homosexual... for further explanation. The Laws which you describe were given, then overturned by Jesus - yet it is only these laws that describe sleeping with a man as one does a woman, which is usually taken literally rather than the intended meaning in the time.

The only person who speaks of it in the New Testament is Paul, and in both parts there is good reason for it - he is trying to sway the people away from the Pagan rituals that were occuring. Makes sense to say it's bad, when you are trying to get people awway from it.


Nikki Major profile image

Nikki Major 4 years ago

Hi Verily Prime....I agree with you 100%...There is no room for homosexuality....It is an abomination....unfortunately...this is a matter for Jesus Christ when he return...all we can do is spread the gospel and it's truth...We will not always be accepted (you and I) but at least we told the truth and that's what matters to God.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

Thanks for the comments - The Gospel is the Gospel and the truth is the truth... and it is a guide/warning for all of us to know what is right or wrong.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Funnily enough, Verily, I agree with Nikki on this - it is a matter for Jesus Christ. Not you. Only God (and in turn, Jesus) can judge me. I'd appreciate it if you followed your own rules.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

I will say what the Gospel says even if I myself are breaching its tenets.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

So, exactly how does that make sense? Or make what you speak the truth, if you yourself are breaching that of which you speak? See - you insist that me, and mine, follow the tenets of your biblical law, yet you admit to breaching the tenets also, even if they are not the same tenets.

You cannot hold me and mine to your beliefs, when you do not even hold yourself to them


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

Do not twist my words - King David slept with another man's wife... did God then condone Adultery... and so before I came a Christian I had relations outside of marriage - does it mean that it was ok and that Fornication was thrown out of the door. Have we all fall short of the Glory of God - yes, but do we then turn around and blashenme calling God a liar - no matter how good it felt to the flesh to run around with the ladies in the Army and elsewhere... the God I know said that was morally wrong - do I tell my children it is ok to so so because I did it...if I am trying to instill in them what the Word says plainly. I do not care what we do, but God do not lie and to perverrt the Word saying a behavior is ok when it is not... is worse to me than engaging in the act.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Funnily enough, Verily, I'm not twisting them. I'm taking them at face value - you state that you will say what the Gospel says, even if you yourself are breaching it's tenets. SO, you are holding me and mine to rules which you pick and choose to abide by. I don't care what you are teaching your children with your words - ACTIONS speak louder than words - if you are LIVING the Gospel, then fine...but in your own words - you aren't.

By the way - Jesus says NOTHING at all about homosexuality - so you aren't preaching the word...just opinions.


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

I gave you King David as an example and you ignored it - incidentally, If Jesus said before Abraham was I Am... then He was there and part of the God-head (Trinity) when God came down and destroyed sodom and gomorrah. I know what you are doing too... trying disassociate God the Father from Jesus, the Son... so that you can say that Jesus would have condone homosexuality. Sir you will not change my mind on that subject nor am I going to change yours.


jlpark profile image

jlpark 4 years ago from New Zealand

Sigh....Genesis 19 has been commented on BY JESUS later in the piece - Sodom's sin was not that of homosexuality but that of greed and inhospitality - see Ezekiel 16:49-50 - Jesus' explicitly explained the sin of Sodom - not once mentioning Homosexuality. Also - the term "Yada" which is translated as "to know" does not always mean "to know sexually" - in every other instance of "yada" - it means "to know". All they wanted was to KNOW who the strangers were.

Funnily enough, you have no problem with the fact that that Lot was happy to lend his virgin daughters out to the mob - for whatever to happen. Or that you have no issue with the verse in Judges where the same thing happens, but a concubine is left outside for the mob to rape. Interesting.

Didn't think I knew my Bible huh?

All I ask is two things - Stop holding me and mine to ideals you don't adhere to yourself, and please get my gender right - it's a little difficult to be a lesbian and a 'sir'

I will leave it at that - I just want you to realise that you are holding me and mine to ideal you don't and can't reach yourself...hypocritical much?


Verily Prime profile image

Verily Prime 4 years ago from New York Author

I did not look up your profile to see that you were female, which accounted for my calling you 'sir.' Right you are about the inhospitality, but your left out when the men went after the angels and was blinded for such perverse behavior. Now, God called Sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman Fornication, but you are telling me that He/Jesus supports homosexuality and lesbianism - I wonder again whence the term Sodomy came. I supposed that the Apostle Paul and John the Revelator have it wrong too on that subject.

    Sign in or sign up and post using a HubPages Network account.

    0 of 8192 characters used
    Post Comment

    No HTML is allowed in comments, but URLs will be hyperlinked. Comments are not for promoting your articles or other sites.


    Click to Rate This Article
    working