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Harlotte is at the Stove

Good Morning, Breakfastpoppers. Today is Monday, February 8, 2016. Our creative friend, Spider Harlotte, is preparing Breakfast Pizza for all the Poppers. Please accept Harlotte's invitation and join us for a tasty meal and a spirited discussion about bringing The Gong Show to politics and beyond. We will be serving traditional pizza as well for those among us who like to shake things up. We hope to see you soon.

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That's A Lie!

Thank you all for joining me this morning. This seemingly endless and painful season of pre-election antics is starting to wear thin. Tell me, just how many lies can Hillary spin without a soul pointing out the lies? I am not talking about the big reveal that Fox news offers the public after the fact. I am talking about an instant truth barometer that stops the liar in his or her tracks on the spot and in the moment. Just imagine how enlightening such a thing would be. The liar lies, the fact-checkers go to work and within seconds, the lie is exposed and the liar is caught. It's efficient and it is necessary. The political landscape would change in immeasurable ways. If people, and I mean everyone, were held accountable for the babble that spouts from their mouths, they most certainly would think before speaking. Some of the liars would probably be forced to stop speaking entirely. The mere thought of that sends waves of pleasure down my spine.

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The Impact of the Truth

Imagine the consequences of instant truth detecting. We would have far fewer television commercials promising ridiculous things about products that are a waste of time and money. Let the commercial air and let it be subjected to the fact-checkers. Just knowing that a product and the spiel associated with the product would be exposed if it were a fraud, would probably prevent a lot of idiotic things from reaching the market. I might actually be able to bear listening to a commercial if I thought it had been and will be vetted for accuracy. If Hillary had to face the fact-checkers there is no question that it would be necessary to get the hook and haul her off the stage. I would pay big bucks to witness that take place. I am picking on Hillary Clinton for a reason. She is the consummate liar. Hillary, is not alone in the lying department. She is right up there with Barack Obama and every single person associated with his administration. She is also right up there with plenty of Republicans who learned early on that lies have a way of surviving the truth, especially when the truth comes later and is buried on page 12 of a 13 page paper.

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The Truth and Nothing But...

The ascendency of the truth to a place of honor would also clean up a lot of annoying things outside of the political forum. School Board meetings would take an entirely different path if those speaking knew that they would be held accountable for their lies or misrepresentations right there and then. I have personally witnessed this type of thing, because I was the fact-checker and truth teller. It was great fun and the powers that presided over the meeting were squirming like worms ready for the hook. Let's send the liars packing. Let's hold the candidates, the teachers, the principals, the CEOs, the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker to a higher standard. When we encounter the liar and we have proof of the lie, let's stick it to them, hit the gong and get the hook!

Harlotte's Song

Oh, what a tangled web we weave

When first we practice to deceive!

Sir Walter Scott

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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Fact checking has been going on a long time, hasn't put a dent in the lies. (and is often wrong) What does that tell you?

It tells you lying works on the targeted uninformed so the politicians use it simply as a tactical tool in their playbook of tools to get elected. Just like everybody hates a negative campaign so why do they rush to do it...because it works.

When you have an electorate who predominantly is uninformed, votes emotionally and is looking for any excuse to support the candidate who promises to give THEM what they want the charlatans will always come out of the woodwork and will always make things up for them.

Fact checking can only help when you have an informed electorate but the informed don't need a fact checker, they can know a lie when they see it and when the fact checkers are nothing more than the fox guarding the hen house, well they only eat the choicest and plumpest chickens.

And you are right it is a societal problem, not just politics as usual but the medical and herbal industries, advertising a big culprit. Who has the time to check everything, and that is the idea, bombard the public with lies everywhere and no one who can't think for him/her self will ever know the truth.

Does the phrase "father of lies" ring any bells...Read your Bible.


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Tom Whitworth 10 months ago from Moundsville, WV

Pop and Harlotte,

I have an idea for a pay per view event. Put the fact checking on a weekly pay-per -view and the penalty for a lie would be a shock as administered by Bill Murry when he was a professor in Ghostbusters. The proceeds of the show would eventually pay off the national debt.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning tsadjatko,

You're right, we do have fact-checkers, but what they find is after the fact and way after the damage is done. I want to see a press conference where reporters hold the speaker to the truth, by being persistent and relentless. I don't want the moment to be lost. Well, I can dream, can't I? See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning Tom,

What a terrific idea. I do believe the national debt would vanish in about a week! See you at the Inn and we'll work things out.


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Tom, don't you think the election is already enough of a circus side show? Shocking is so un-PC, best put them on a seat over a barrel of Democrat zombies (also known as Hiliary supporters) and have Peyton Manning try to hit the bulls eye with a football every time they tell a lie. He's going to need a job anyway, and every dunk can be called a completion (of the penalty for lying to your constituents).


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billybuc 10 months ago from Olympia, WA

Hold onto your seat because we are about to COMPLETELY agree on everything you said....there is far too much lying in government and Hillary is one of the best, and worst, at it. I truly don't trust her any further than I can throw her and that ain't very far. :) Happy Monday to you, my friend.


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fpherj48 10 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Speaking of Peyton........Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa "BRONCOS!!" Way to go.

Maybe Peyton can jump into the race for POTUS since he's retiring his pigskin. At least I would know for whom I'm voting!

Lies? It is not only the compulsive Liar who believes her/his own lies but after decades of hearing nothing BUT lies~we become totally daffy.

That's their intent, right? Simply succeed in confusing, frightening & distracting the masses. Only the VERY strong survive and "we" seem to be a dying breed. Personally, I'm wearing thin, really thin.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear billy,

Being on the same page with you is proof that people can find a way to work together no matter their differences. In fact, most people have more in common than they will ever realize. As for Hillary, the mere sight of her or the sound of her voice starts me thinking of where I should re-locate if she should win. See you at the Inn.


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Old Poolman 10 months ago from Rural Arizona

Happy Monday Patti - Most of us are aware that almost all Politicians spin the truth to some degree every time they open their mouths.

In addition to the lying Politicians, we also have many uniformed voters who spread the lies they were told and firmly believe. Even if what they are saying is completely wrong they don't feel they are lying because they believe it to be true.

Finding accurate sources for fact checking is difficult to say the least. Even some of the better known fact checking websites will spin an occasional lie if it works better for their own political beliefs.

I love it when a Politician gets away with denying having said something even when presented with a video showing them saying that very thing. And they do it repeatedly and get away with the lie. I would imagine that lying Politicians go back to ancient times and nothing has changed.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear fp,

Let's try to hang on until the election. If Hillary or Bernie wins, we need to discuss a move to Bali! In the meantime, I'll see you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear Mike,

I agree, lying politicians go back to the beginning of time, but it is time to get rid of them. I have to believe that there are still people out there with integrity. You exist, Mike, so therefore there are other people like you. I am so anxious to witness some accountability. I need it and I need it NOW! See you at the Inn. I need to relax.....


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Old Poolman 10 months ago from Rural Arizona

Patti - I fear if we removed all the lying Politicians out of Washington we would only have empty chairs.


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Yeah, Mike you got that right! The old lying about lying card which all liars not only love to play, they have to play it or else admit they are a liar. The thing is they know they can and even when called on it the 'masses" that have been dumbed down by our education system and brainwashed by the media and academic "elite", well they either don't care, have very short memories or are just too stupid to notice. When the political party of these "lying about lying" LIARS condones their behavior, actually rewards it as it has become a universal trademark of their leadership (not hard to guess what party I'm talking about at least what ideology, thank you Saul Alinsky) it's no secret where evil and deception about motives can be found.


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fpherj48 10 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

Sounds good to me, pop. Bali it is. I'll do a sweeping search right now!


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Old Poolman 10 months ago from Rural Arizona

TSAD - What amazes me is how many of our youth, including college age students, don't realize they are right on the edge of the cliff. Many are not smart enough to realize that "Free" doesn't mean nobody will ever have to pay the bill. Worse yet, they don't understand they are the one's who will be paying this bill.

But even some adults who have maxed out all of their credit cards are shocked when the Credit Card companies demand payment or their cards will be cancelled. When reminded of the recent happenings in Greece they don't know anything about it. I guess things like this are just not covered on the cartoon channel.


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maven101 10 months ago from Northern Arizona

Good morning, Pop...

Proud to be a Popper...My BS detector has been overloaded this political cycle...Does being told that the Truth will set me free mean that I am not free..?...Larry


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lambservant 10 months ago from Pacific Northwest

I was disheartened and disgusted with Ted Cruz's campaign leaders not checking their facts about Ben Carson. I wonderif it really was accidental hmm.


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savvydating 10 months ago

HC sold her soul a long time ago. Did you see how she said that "What happened in Flint is immoral?" As if she knows what morality is. She is the most corrupt, immoral person---right up there with Bill and Al Gore. I could name many more, but you get the gist.

Well, I'll see you around Harlotte. Thanks for your great reporting. I know it can't be easy for you.


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Well savvydating it occurs to me it might be interesting if someone played the devil's advocate and tried to defend her, but then they'd actually be taking her job away from her.


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fpherj48 10 months ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

I understand Big Bad Bill took to the air waves to tell of the "Horrible, despicable things being said about his wife on social media.....calling her names that he can't even repeat....".....Bwahhahahahahahahahah..

It's OK Bill, Hillary will get over it. They aren't saying anything worse about your poor wifey-poo than what she said about your long list of illicit lovers........... Nothing the public says seems to faze her in the least.....


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Are you telling us Slick Willie has chivalry, in other words a moral and social code? My he has changed hasn't he! I mean he never showed respect for his wife himself considering his serial adulterous behavior. I guess with him words are more hurtful than behavior, maybe what the meaning of "is" is and then this demonstrates an unhealthy obsession with words, in adition to his unhealthy obsession with sex. Did you know on the Lewinsky scale he scored a ten? I'll let you figure that one out.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning Mike,

Those chairs might as well have been empty these last 8 years. Congress could have been in recess and no one would notice. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning fp,

Let me know what you find. See you tonight at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning maven,

Do you feel free? Let's talk about it tonight at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Morning lamb servant,

I'll join you in that big Hmmmm...... See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Good Moning savvy dating,

Hillary is in a class all by herself. Oh wait, Bill is right there with her. See you at the Inn. I guarantee that the Clintons won't be allowed near our Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear fp,

You might want to remind Bill that the Secret Service charged with protecting his lovely wife considered the assignment to be punishment!


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear tsadjatko,

I understand that Slick Willie is at it again. His happiest moments are when Hillary is not coming home. It affords him the opportunity to sneak his latest into his home.


taxlarry 10 months ago

People running for President of th US are lying? Is that true? OMG!


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bradmasterOCcal 10 months ago from Orange County California

Good Morning Pop

I don't seem to get notifications for all that I follow, that is why I am a day late with my comment. Is that a statement of fact? ?

I asked a ? about whether Hillary and Bill Clinton live together like a married couple, and one commenter told me it was none of my business.

Anyway, what really passes off today as a Fact? There is a ubiquitous use of labels that are being used with the expectation that they are facts. Labels are for the most part someones conclusion of an activity of the person. Unless the label is followed by an explanation there shouldn't be much credence in the label.

Much like the answer to a math equation, a fact doesn't have the details of the work. So 2X + 5Y = Answer. The answer exists whether the details were done correctly or incorrectly. To determine the veracity of the answer you have to look at the intermediate steps in solving the equation.

The same is true for the modern day fact.

Many people today think that poll results are the same things a ballot results. Polls are mathematical extrapolations of opinions, while ballot tabulation is a factual results as long as the process is valid.

While, I am eating the leftover pizza, thanks, my thought is on how many people don't even try to get to the facts. They rely on TV and the media to tell them the news, but they don't care to filter out the bias of the reporting.

Bill O'Reilly thinks he doesn't spin the facts, but he is one of the most spinners that we have today, this is not a politician.

Telling people you don't spin, is a biased assertion that has little veracity to the O'Reilly "stories".

Out of pizza, thanks again, got to go.


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Bill O'Reilly is primarily interested in ratings. That is why he claims he is an independent and more a moderate than a conservative. He wants to appeal to as many people as he can without labeling himself what he really is.

I applaud him on his stands on many moral and cultural shortcomings in society today and the fact that he is not afraid to speak out but he does try his best to not be labeled anything that the left will identify as extreme, whether or not it really is.

But no matter what you think of him there is no comparison to the spin and lies that liberals in his occupation spew on a daily basis, their double standards and "say absolutely anything imaginable and false" to denigrate their ideological opposition, and that is just the plain truth!


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bradmasterOCcal 10 months ago from Orange County California

Tsadjatko

My point was that even people that deny they are NOT spinning facts into opinions, their denial is just talk.

My other point is that facts are not really facts any more. Calling something a Fact, doesn't make it a fact. This is especially true of the media and cable news.

I merely used Bill O'reilly as an example of the industry as a whole.

Using the word News in Cable News is misleading and more false than true. News doesn't contain opinions, and neither do facts.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear taxlarry,

No, it's a lie! See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear brad,

More pizza is on the way. As far as facts are concerned, we are now a nation that finds facts time consuming and tedious. That is precisely why it is so easy to lie. Keep the lie simple and it takes on a life of its own. See you at the Inn.


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breakfastpop 10 months ago Author

Dear tsadjatko,

I find O'Reilly a bit difficult to stomach, but the rest of the pundits make me want to scream! I'll be at the Inn. I hope to see you soon.


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tsadjatko 10 months ago from maybe (the guy or girl) next door

Bradmaster, I think I see your point but you are doing a poor job making it.

If , as you say, your "point was that even people that deny they are NOT spinning facts into opinions, their denial is just talk."

Who denies they are NOT spinning the facts? That doesn't make any sense (a double negative).

If you meant to say "people that deny they ARE spinning the facts," that doesn't even make sense - who doesn't deny that they are spinning the facts?

That would be everyone. Everyone denies they are spinning the facts otherwise you'd be saying that some people actually are spinning the facts and not denying it or actually admitting they are spinning the facts? I don't think so.

But O Reilly has never said his program is a news program, Fox news is the name of the channel, in no way means all that is on there is only reporting the news and I don't know why anyone would even think that the opinion shows on that channel are news unless they never watch and jump to the conclusion Fox thinks it is all news, which I am sure some idiots do without ever watching.

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