Global Warming: Natural Issue or Manmade Disaster?

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Global Warming

There is no doubt that global warming is occurring. The average air and water temperatures have increased 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (.8 degrees Celsius) since 1880. Not only is global warming occurring, the rate of occurrence is increasing. The last two decades of the century were the hottest in 400 years. The ongoing question is not if man has contributed to this warming, but in what amount has man contributed (1).

According to the Union of Concerned Scientists, the Arctic regions are feeling the effects the most with temperatures that have risen at twice the global average. Glaciers, Arctic ice are disappearing at an alarming rate which affects the life there as well as around the world. Coral reefs being very sensitive to water temperature changes are being bleached in some cases by 70%. Increases in weather events, wild fires and tropical storms are on the increase (1).

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Greenhouse Gasses

If you consider the changes in the footprint of various factors, it becomes apparent that the greenhouse gasses are by far the greatest factor. The natural volcanic activity as well as the sun’s energy output, has remained fairly steady since at least 1880. Even urban pollution aerosols have decreased rather than increased. This leaves the gasses created by man’s use of fossil fuels and other aerosol emitting chemicals.

The greenhouse gasses cause the heat energy to be held in the earth’s atmosphere which increases the average temperatures of the air and water. These gasses not only increase the warming trend, but remain in the atmosphere for decades. These gasses come from the burning of fossil fuel and coal among other things, and are exacerbated by deforestation and the ever increasing world population (2).

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Man's Effect

There is overwhelming evidence and thousands of studies that all indicate, that the processes of man have a huge and increasing effect on the changes in the warming trend. This is not to say that the earth is not going through its normal cycle, but is saying that man’s daily industrial processes are and will continue to add to the warming of the earth.

The facts are indisputable, and every major country is in agreement that we need to find cleaner more efficient ways to produce energy and the products that we use while reducing the greenhouse gas emissions at the same time. The thing that is standing in the way of these studies and changes is the corporate/political machine. The money that is paid by the big corporations to coerce Congress into denouncing the greenhouse gas affects and to belittle the scientific community is the biggest stumbling block to progress in this area.

The global warming will continue, and the rate of change will continue unless we all make the necessary changes to our lifestyle, and the corporate machine makes the changes form dirty fuels and processes to cleaner ones. There are alternatives and technology is far enough advanced to make the necessary changes, but money and greed are the current stumbling block that we need to overcome.

Global Warming 101

Citations

(1)Global warming fast facts. (2007, June 14). Retrieved from http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html

(2) Global warming facts. (2006, May 21). Retrieved from http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/documents/global_warming/humanfingerprintshighres.pdf

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Vinaya Ghimire 4 years ago from Nepal

Though it is generally believed, global warming is man made, there are evidences that this is a natural phenomena. Scientists have found that the sun is constantly becoming brighter.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you Vinaya, I agree that there are natural occurances that create the cycles the earth goes through. However there is no doubt that man has a huge effect on the process. Thank you for reading and commenting!


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

The science is quite clear. Greenhouse gases pumped in to the atmosphere by coal fired electric plants, motor vehicles and other anthropomorphic sources are warming the earth's climate. At any given time the earth's climate is the product of man made and natural forces. Natural forces may accentuate the warming effect of greenhouse gases, cancel the effect of CO2 emissions or they may overpower the effect of CO2 emissions and return the earth to another ice age. The best science says that since the industrial revolution the man made warming effect has predominated over the effects of nature.


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peoplepower73 4 years ago from Placentia California

I liked your article because it implies that even if we are taken out of the eqaution, there is still natural climate change taking place. But we are just agravating the conditions by producing green house gases. Thanks for SHARING. Voting up and useful.


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billybuc 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

As usual a thorough look at a complicated issue...well, not so complicated if one believes as you and I do that man is a huge contributor to the damage being done. Great job my friend!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Excellent comments Ralph, thank you for reading and contributing!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you for the question that inspired this Hub peoplepower! I appreciate your question, reading my work and commenting!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Hi Bill, thank you for your common beliefs, friendship and of course your time to read my work and comment!


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

I agree, great hub. It brings together in a very understandble way the issues surrounding the global warming crisis; I fear though, it is too late to reverse what is going on, mainly because those who oppose combating it by saying there isn't enough proof, need the actual disaster to happen before they are convinced, the classic "closing the barn door after the cow has escaped, syndrome", it will be the death of us.

Voted Useful and Interesting.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Excellent comments My Esoteric. I agree, that we just may have pushed it too far. This thought is disturbing but I am glad you brought it up!


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Cre8tor 4 years ago from Ohio

It's certainly an issue where the facts are there but the truth hides from us because we don't want to see it. Unfortunately, mankind has selective hearing. Great hub!


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

If you get your science out of the news media then you are frightened about global warming. If, on the other hand, you dig deeper you begin to question the whole premise of human induced warming. Read both sides of the issue and you will gravitate towards a neutral position - might be human caused, might not be.

Discovering that earth's climate has been warmer than present, not once but twice in the last 2,000 years is the first step to questioning the alarmism. Next you will discover that the natural cycles folks are better at predicting global temperatures than the AGW crowd and you begin to take pause. Since there are competing predictions for global temperatures over the next 10-20 years, we can finally know for sure and it won't be long for confirmation.

There are actually three theories out there (though you won't know that if all you do is get your science from the news media). (1) AGW says temperatures will continue to rise. (2) The solar people say temperatures will drop. (3) The natural cycle people say temperatures will fluctuate a bit but remain fairly steady. Best of all, we will know by 2020 which one is right, as I have written bout.


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

Where do you get your information? Out of the Bible? (I see from your bio that you are also a denier of evolution.)

From what I've read more than 90 percent of climate scientists believe that the warming of the earth, which has been measured scientifically, in recent years is being caused by greenhouse gas emissions due to increased population and industrialization. No one denies that natural cycles occurred in the past and will occur in the future. Why should anyone deny that emissions are also a factor contributing to climate? The same people who ran the campaign for the cigarette companies denying a link between smoking and cancer are working for the oil and power companies to convince the public that global warming is not a cause for concern. These comnpanies are funding "research" and buying conservative politicians.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you Cre8tor, I like that...selective hearing. Thank you for trading and commenting!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Greetings Dave, you said "If you get your science out of the news media then you are frightened about global warming." I do not get facts from media (See my hubs on media). My facts are just that...Facts from my own research.Yes I read both sides of any story Dave. Thank you for your comments and I appreciate your opinion even in disagreement.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you for your intelligent comments Ralph. This issue tends to bring out responses of denial. You restated clearly what the article said about the combination of causes.


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JKenny 4 years ago from Birmingham, England

Great hub, Curiad. It can be difficult to determine exactly what drives change in climate, but not in this case! Granted, if we weren't around the climate would be getting warmer anyway. But the science clearly shows that we are exasperating the warming through greenhouse gasses. Okay, rant over. Great work. Voted up and shared.


anonymous 4 years ago

Thank you for your input and intelligent comments JKenny! We agree on greenhouse gasses and climate change all the way!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

I am not sure why my reply to you JKenny came up as anonymous, but it was me lol!


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

Ralph,

I do not disagree that human beings have an effect on climate, I just don't see any reason to believe that human beings are the dominant factor in any kind of climate change. Not when natural cycles provide a better explanation for recent temperature records than does AGW alarmism.

Since you want to denegrate science funded by "oil and power companies", ask yourself this question: Why is research funded by Government that proposes a Big Government solution to a problem not biased? Isn't there every bit as much potential for bias with Government funded research?


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

Our government has been silent on climate change for the past year or two. It has no particular motive other than taking prudent action to prevent costly and undesirable future effects of climate change. The oil and coal power plant people have a big financial motive for denial.

Moreover, climate change issues aren't peculiar to the U.S. government. Many if not all countries are expressing concern about it and many are taking action. The science is pretty clear. What is needed is education to convince people around the world that it's prudent to start working on the problem before it's too late and international mechanisms to assure that all countries are moving in the same direction. It's possible that a natural cycle of some sort may come along and make it unnecessary to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but it would be a mistake to count on it. We can't predict or change what mother nature is going to do. But CO2 emissions are withing our control.


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

Ralph,

You missed the point. The government sponsers the research. That's true for the United States government, the government of Great Britain, the French government, the Russian government, the Chinese government, the government of the Grand Duchy of Lichtenstein. Government has a vested interest in ever expanding itself and becoming more powerful. Government is not likely to continue to sponser research that says "government is not needed here, move along." Thus I ask again, why do you assume there is no bias in government sponsered research?


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

But which has less bias, government sponsored research or energy industry sponsored research? I would side with the government every time when picking the one with less bias.

In any case, the only groups who disagree that man has the larger responsibility are 1) those with no science background but a definite political agenda or 2) industry groups that will be hurt by the policies needed to slow down our death-spiral.

All other groups, whether they be independent research groups or government research are all in agreement, man is killing the planet.

Since most of those with a political agenda are Conservatives, meaning they are more aligned with fundamentalist Christianity, you would think they would see the parallel between their admonishment to non-believers ... "but what if you are wrong?" ... to this situation here. Unless you are one of the ones who believe that the 2008 economic debacle was headed toward a depression (just like all other depressions before that resulted from the same conditions) without government intervention and who also believe that the results of global warming won't be that bad even it does happen, then you should take heed of that same admonishment ... "what if you are wrong?"


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QualityContent 4 years ago

It's the monetary system that's destroying the planet. We could run on all clean energy and eliminate the need for gas and oil today.

Think of all the cars we could take off the road. If we only used the technology we have today and move forward into a high tech society then these problems would be easier to control. Sadly we won't because of that money thing, and big business.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@Dave, If you can show proof of your statement "Not when natural cycles provide a better explanation for recent temperature records than does AGW alarmism." then go ahead, we would love to see it. Also, It is never helpful to an argument to use terms like "alarmism" unless your motive is to generate a negative response. No one here is in "alarm" mode that I know of.Those of us that agree on the facts, simply state them clearly and calmly.Thank you again for reading.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@Ralph, "The science is pretty clear. What is needed is education to convince people around the world that it's prudent to start working on the problem before it's too late. I agree wholeheartedly, education is key!

Thank you.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@ My Esoteric, another well written response. I like the thought "what if you are wrong". But what you say about the groups that disagree with man's part in this issue is right on.

Thank you.


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

Davesworld, "Government has a vested interest in ever expanding itself and becoming more powerful. Government is not likely to continue to sponser research that says "government is not needed here, move along." Thus I ask again, why do you assume there is bias in government sponsered research and none in research bought and paid for by EXXON, the Koch brothers and the coal and electric power industries. Your belief defies common sense.

Your cynical view of government is quite different from mine. You apparently are a libertarian. In my view, our government is far from perfect, but it has no reason to sponsor biased research. The research is conducted and peer-reviewed by scientists in universities all over the world. Nearly all of them say that global warming is real and that prudence requires action before it's too late to avoid catastrophic disruptions.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@ QualityContent, You hit the nail on the head my friend, Thank you!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you Ralph, If we take what you are saying about the peer-reviewed research, and what Quality is saying about the technology available to make things better and add this thought: If we have the knowledge, and the technology to make changes for the better is it not just plain silly not to? Would we not be better off as a race living with less pollution, less greenhouse gas, less dependence on both domestic and foreign oil?

Makes sense to me no matter what side of the issue.


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

We're on the same wavelength.


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

I wish what @Quality said was actually true today, but it is my considered opinion that technology is not that far along yet. There is no doubt we have very good prototypes of what it is going to take, but they are only prototypes at this point because either 1) the technology isn't quite there yet like the battery for the electric car or 2) fossile fuels are still significantly cheaper.

What I believe is that at some point, a battery will be develop that will allow a 300 mile range and only take 30 minutes to charge to get another 100 or so (or have a swapable system. I think this will come before the successful development of the fuel cell, which I think will be the end-all for quite some time.

At some time in the future, they will finally figure out a way to harness nuclear fusion to produce clean nuclear energy. I don't know if they have actually been able to do it yet for more than an instant, but, if not, I bet they are close. Solar power is slowing making a dent, I will probably buy a solar water heater and pool heater this year, the prices have really come down, and wind power is coming right along, but they need to become more efficient yet.

Until we do this, we are stuck with oil, I am afraid.


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

You're not supposed to do this, but check my hub:

http://hubpages.com/education/Global-Warming-Put-T...


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

I agree My Esoteric, that current technology may not have the ability to actually solve the issue but I would say that it is close enough that we could make big reductions in the greenhouse gasses we put into the atmosphere. And with coming improvements in technology eventually we can and will find better ways than fossil fuel.Thank you again for your considered thought and input. It is after all why we are here:)


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@Dave, I am not going to deny your posting of your hub because I have no problem with you having a differing opinion. I read the hub and agree with My Esoteric in that the data you shared there is incomplete and only shows a very narrow portion of the volumes of data available. I will say that what you show is purposefully limited in my opinion in an effort to prove your point. The problem is that there is much more data as My Esoteric stated that clearly shows a relationship to the increasing amounts of gasses we produce and the temperature fluctuations the earth is experiencing. Also, your statements showing that the sun heats the earth is correct, but you fail to show the reasons that heat is retained in the earth's atmosphere and the rates of change of that "exfoliation." There is so much more involved in this equation besides just the energy received. And further, you still have not addressed the fact that we can and should make improvements starting now that will not only help with the pollution issues but help eliminate any amount of increase we are adding to the warming equation.


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

Oh goodness gracious, no. I am not opposed in any way to reducing pollution, to cleaning up our lakes and streams, to reforestation here in the U.S. and south in the Amazon basin. I am not opposed to ongoing research into alternative fuels.

I also do not deny that global temperatures have risen throughout much of the 20th century. I am simply unconvinced that carbon dioxide, a weak greenhouse gas, is a major player in the problem.

I am not selectively presenting information, or at least not doing so intentionally. I am unconcerned with what happened in the last 20 years because we can't change that. I am more interested in what will happen in the next 20 years, and here we have competing theories - which is exactly what I said in my Hub.

A science is worthless and not worth pursuing if it cannot make accurate predictions. We are on the verge of finding out just how accurate the AGW CO2 theory is. Isn't that good news? For both of us?


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

I visited DavesWorld and enjoyed his hub, of course I had to leave my opinion and some additional information ... I feel a hub coming on.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Laughs, well if nothing else, we generated a lot of thought, comments and possibly a hub!

Thank you My Esoteric:)


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LauraGT 4 years ago from MA

This winter has been a scary indicator that the earth's temperature is changing. Thanks for the informative hub.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you for reading and commenting Laura! I agree with you.


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

Boy, have I learned a lot about global climate in the last two days. Here is a site you might find interesting; just loaded with charts.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/temperature/


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dilipchandra12 4 years ago from India

Good analysis on current alarming issue, useful read. Thanks for sharing :)


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Wow My Esoteric, this is very interesting data. I will study this and do appreciate your finds!


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Yes dilip, it is important and useful. If we as a race are to make any changes, we need to study and understand this.


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cclitgirl 4 years ago from Western NC

I've recently been labeled as a "Green Queen", so when I saw this, of course I had to stop by. Keep writing on this, Mark. It's so imperative to get the word out. I think people really have no idea to what extent we are actually in trouble and the political and corporate giants are looking the other way, in their own interests. I think it's up to all of us individually to take a stance and to stand up for the planet. Thanks so much for writing this. :)


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

I agree 100% Cyndi, and I will write more as well as support several groups working on this issue.


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Ralph Deeds 4 years ago

Here's a frightening prediction from a respected climate scientist:

"Game Over for the Climate"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/opinion/game-ove...


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you for this link Ralph, I am adding this to my Hub as a link.


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unknown spy 4 years ago from Neverland - where children never grow up.

A great hub, one must be aware of what is happening on our world. Global warmign is one of the most alarming issues of the world.


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Curiad 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

So true M, The real problem is the denial of the Government in the US and other places because of Big Money.


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mary615 3 years ago from Florida

This is a great Hub on a problem that a lot of people refuse to believe. I do believe. I saw a good show on TV the other night about the global warming's effect on these hurricanes we have. The temp. of the ocean is warmer; therefore causing bad hurricanes.

I voted this UP, etc.


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you Mary, yes there are many who refuse to believe that man has a huge effect on the environment and climate.

Mark


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pramodgokhale 3 years ago from Pune( India)

Sir,

Yes this is all man made crisis. Unless we move then we should face consequences . Weather and Monsoon cycle in India has changed and crop yield and prediction on out put has become difficult.

Deforestation in India is going on and as you say greed and lust for the wealth and global conferences and protocols has become routine affair , more of rhetoric and no action to reduce carbon emission.

Thank you sir.

pramod gokhale


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you pramod. I appreciate your thoughts.


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Carol, I am sorry you feel that way. The data is real, verified and from reliable and knowledgeable sources. I hope you at some point learn the truth, and realize that this is a real, serious issue, and has been made far worse by humanity.

The source you shared, is nothing more than a collection of blog links, and links to articles written by nobodies. The data I provided comes from studied, worldwide accredited sources.


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Ralph Deeds 3 years ago

Carol, American Thinker isn't a good source of unbiased scientific information. From Wikipedia:

"American Thinker is a daily conservative online magazine[2] dealing with American politics, foreign policy, national security, Israel, economics, diplomacy, culture and military strategy.[3] American Thinker has been mentioned in other media including Le Monde,[4] The Guardian,[5] Inter Press Service,[6] Campus Watch,[7] and the New York Times.[8]"


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Thank you for your honest and straightforward response Ralph!


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Wrong Carol, however you are certainly entitled to your misguided beliefs.


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Most any weather pattern can be blamed on climate change but it's difficult to blame freezing blizzards on global warming.

This is completely ill-informed and incorrect. Warming changes the oceans temperatures, which in turn changes the earth's weather patterns, which in turn change whole areas of the globe as far as weather patterns go. Freezing Blizzards ARE a part of the changing weather patterns. And I personally don't care what you call it or what the government calls it, the facts remain and man has a huge effect on the global warming and changing weather in this world. If all you want to do is make pointless argument, that does not address the fact that man has and is affecting the climate, and increasing the warming of this planet, you need to take it elsewhere. This article is fact, and no amount of silly commenting will change the facts.


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Curiad 3 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

For all others reading this article, CarolAnnHeadrick's comments have been deleted because she is nothing more than an Obama Supporter and uninterested in facts, but rather just trying to troll this important issue.


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Perspycacious 2 years ago from Today's America and The World Beyond

Siberian melt and warming's release of methane gas has been a significant contributor. We cannot control that, but we can control, or at least limit, what mankind is doing to threaten human existence in the decades ahead of us. Can man control nature? Of course not, but we can make laws which, like Stop signs, legislate for the common good of all.


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Curiad 2 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Well said Perspycacious.


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My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

While man cannot control nature, we can certainly destroy it.


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Curiad 2 years ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

Very true My Esoteric.


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My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

We are now at the stage where things can get ironic. On Twitter somebody commented about a $500 million competition for a new or upgrade to an airport in New Orleans (I forget which). My comment was, "Why bother, in 86 years it WILL be under water".


Shama 23 months ago

Isn’t global warinmg basically a change in the greenhouse effect? If not, what’s the relationship between the two phenomena? There is almost no relationship. Global warinmg is a fantasy theory where Believers say that the earth’s temperature is rising due to changes in the concentration of CO2. The feeble evidence they cling to is a weak correlation between co2 and temperature. The trouble is that global temperature measurements are from satellites and only extend back to about 1975, and global co2 measurements are non existent since they are only recorded at one location in Hawaii and only extend back to the 1950’s. Beyond those dates and locations measurements are sporadic and unreliable, certainly not global and not of long enough duration. The Believers of this theory are now a shrinking minority who still claim co2 is the devil. Climate change is a reality however, and most of the world has seen lots of evidence of this in the form of images of polar bears and melting glaciers. But people realize that these images are evidence that the earths climate changes only, these images are not evidence that co2 is the cause. Only the Believers still fall for this ploy. Lol!Hope this answers your question.Cheer up folks, the climate scare has passed.


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My Esoteric 23 months ago from Keystone Heights, FL

And your doctorate in science is from where, @Shama, to challenge the conclusions of 99% of those who study this? I think you are going to need to provide references from authoritative sources to back up your assertions.


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Curiad 23 months ago from Lake Charles, LA. Author

@Shama, your statements are baseless. you have shown nor references or any statement of who you are or what your level of education is. Trying to link global warming to "the devil" is asinine in my opinion. That one statement invalidates anything you might say.

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