God Hates America

God Hates America
God Hates America

Its Not Who You Think

There is a group in America that protest the funerals of the brave men and women who return from Iraq and Afghanistan in a casket. This group holds up signs in front of the grieving parents, children and spouses that claim to "Thank God for Dead Soldiers." This group believes that dead soldiers represent God's hatred of America.

One would think that this group would be made of liberals against the war but it is not. This movement is led by a radical and out there group of religious conservatives who truly believe that God hates America.

The movement believes that the American lifestyle will lead to hell.
The movement believes that the American lifestyle will lead to hell.

The Movement

The movement is as simple minded as it is ridiculous. Led by the WestboroBaptist Church, the God hates America group believes the United States is on a path of destruction. They use quotes from the bible to prove their points. They claim that Abortion is murder and because the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade that God hates America. They claim that because there are homosexuals in the United States, God hates America. They claim that America has become a fornication nation and thus God hates America. They claim that because America allows for divorce and remarriage, God hates America.

And this "movement" claims that the American lifestyle that allows for Abortion, Divorce, fortification and homosexuality will lead to God's wrath. This group offers no answers to any of the problems facing the United States, but only salvation though hatred.

This Group Believes That God Hates America Because Of America's Tolerant Culture
This Group Believes That God Hates America Because Of America's Tolerant Culture

Targeted Anger

While this group claim they only teach the lessons of the bible and follow in Jesus' footsteps, they take a different path to teach what they believe is the truth. Instead of preaching love and peace, this group has targeted their anger towards likely and unlikely individuals. Their first target is President Obama who they claim is the anti-christ. They also attack other democrats like Al Gore. However, their hatred isn't only for liberals and they also hate many conservatives as well. The list includes, George W. Bush, who they call a dolt, Dick Cheney, and the entire Supreme Court, who mind you, were mostly appointed by conservatives. Their anger is also directed towards Matthew Shephard, the homosexual kid who was killed because of his sexual preference. They also hate Jake Gyllenhall and Heith Ledger, not because they were homosexuals, but because they played homosexuals in a movie. They even staged protests at Ledger's funerals.

This group also hates most religious leaders in the Country including Jerry Farwell and Billy Graham because their stance on homosexuality was too lenient. This, of course, leads one to wonder, who does these people actually like?


A Soldier's Funeral Now Includes Protestors Thanking God For Their Death
A Soldier's Funeral Now Includes Protestors Thanking God For Their Death

Misdirected Anger

This is America, and this movement has every right to peacefully protest and spread their "message" in any outlet they deem fit as long as they follow the rules and do not physically disturb others. We all can agree on that.

But this group has taken their movement to an odd and disturbing place. They do not protest in the front of the White House, Congress or staying on the Internet. Instead, these people protest at soldier's funerals. That rights, the very soldiers who are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, are being protesting upon their return to America in a casket. So not only does the family have to deal with grief at the loss of a loved one, they have to deal with groups of people at the funeral holding up signs saying thank god for dead soldiers.

And why you may ask?  Because this group believes that every soldier's death is caused by the wrath of God for the wretched ways of American life. So every time a soldier dies, this group celebrates because it is a sign that God is on the job.

At The Very Least Could You Let The Families of Fallen Soldiers Grieve In Peace?
At The Very Least Could You Let The Families of Fallen Soldiers Grieve In Peace?
To This Group I Say: Are You Kidding Me?
To This Group I Say: Are You Kidding Me?

Are You Kidding Me?

There are sincere and genuine arguments for and against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and have been for years. But for the most part, liberals, conservatives and everyone else could always agree that we must support the troops. The troops don't decide where to fight, they go where they are sent and despite the odds do their jobs bravely and professionally.

Now this group has taken upon themselves to make sure that even a soldier's funeral is no longer sacred. They have taken upon themselves to ensure that the family cannot grieve in peace. They make the funeral about their so called cause and not about what it should be about, the fallen soldier. And they do this in the name of their religion.

Do these people really believe that their behavior would be condoned by Jesus Christ? They may not like what is going on in America, but does that give them the right to behave in such an unchristian manner.

What amazes me most is that this groups teachings are oddly similar to another group that claims their God hates America as well. Much of what this group preaches are what is "preached" by Osama Bin Laden on his tapes. Why hasn't fox news come out and called them terrorists?

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eovery profile image

eovery 6 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

I have to agree with you on this one. These guys are wacko. I guess it roves there are all kinds of wackos. Didn't Reverent Wright said about the same? And he is liberal.

Keep on hubbing!


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, eovery, Reverend Wright did say about the same thing and if I had been writing on here then, I would have written a similar article denouncing him as well.

Wacho doesn't have a political affiliation. But really, protesting soldier funerals? too far out there in my humble opinion.

Thanks for the comment.


ralwus 6 years ago

They are idiots and it's a shame they are teaching children this shit! I am embarrassed by them. They don't know that loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Fair points all ralwus

Thanks for reading


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Tom Cornett 6 years ago from Ohio

These people show ignorance at it's extreme. A burial is our final dignity. It is pathetic that these morons use innocent children and come anywhere near a soldier's funeral. If it were my son or daughter being buried...they would need Gods to stop me from kicking their asses to hell and back.


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someonewhoknows 6 years ago from south and west of canada,north of ohio

I agree,these people are a misguided bunch.Although I agree with their feelings on this so called war on terror.It's a bit much to protest at these solders funerals.Their intolerance toward gays seems almost as bad as the terrorists intolerance towards other religions.You would think they were hypnotised or something.This reminds me of the blind leading the blind.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Tom, Agreed,

Thanks for the comment


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

someone,

Disagreeing with policy is one thing. But their actions are another. And they celebrate the death of soldiers because it "proves their point." They are not against the war, but hate homosexuals, abortion, divorce and Americans in general. The war has little to do with their argument.

Thanks for the comment


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greatAmerican 6 years ago

Looks like they have covered all the bases and in the end they must also believe God hates them..

I am not sure about God, is anyone really,

but I have said before, I believe we give

God too much credit,,,,,,and blame, so what else is there?


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

There is just usGreatAmerican, to answer your question. Which is what I think Jesus taught.

Thanks for the comment.


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braudboy 6 years ago from Long Beach, MS

There are certainly extemists on the right and left side of politics. Most religious conservatives are much more stable and sane than this bunch. Abortion is wrong and homosexual behavior is certainly unacceptable. But, spewing hatred and displaying bad behavior is not the answer.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agree that there are extemeists on both sides. but this group is a bit farther out there.

Thanks for the comment.


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lj gonya 6 years ago

How sad that any human being could be this mean spirited and cruel. Worse yet, how sad that a parent would allow their child to hold a sign thanking God for dead soldiers. These people owe their freedoms to these brave men and women.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, even if you don't like policy or American culture: respect the troops.

Thanks for the comment.


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tony0724 6 years ago from san diego calif

bgpappa I was made aware of this group awhile ago. I saw Julie Bandares and one of their spokewomen having a catfight on FOX news. And lets call them extreme right wing nutbags. I consider myself pretty conservative and I hardly believe my beliefs would ever go to such exagerrated levels

And I sure as hell would never condone denegrating a dead soldiers funeral. These guys are just nuts period


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, I would never associate conservatives with this group. (edit my hub a bit to make sure I didn't paint to broadly) They are way beyond any political labels. I might not agree with much of the conservative agenda, but conservatives always support the troops and I will always give them that.

I consider this group to be an American version of Al Queda. They both believe God hates America and cheer when our brave soldiers die.

Thanks for the comment Tony.


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pisean282311 6 years ago

this seems crazy...for any nation such things might be concluded that because that nation does x,y,z god would hate that nation..its ridiculous...god is said to be merciful and loving not hating entity...that's my opinion..


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Fair opinion.

Thanks for the comment


Todd hates Christians 6 years ago

I hope the whole church gets raped by a heard of long dicked mules


jennifer against preist 6 years ago

The stupidity of religious freaks amaze me. God does not hate anything or anybody. He created it all, why would you hate something you create. I only hope that these individules will face true justice in the afterlife, where it counts not in a court. Respect for others and kindness god love. I also hope they get raped by mules Kindness is a more powerful than hate.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Todd,

I won't go that far but I feel where you are coming from. Thanks for the comment.

Jennifer,

I agree, kindness is more powerful, just doesn't make the news. Thanks for reading.


A.A.G 6 years ago

Well they should answer this question themselves...If God hates America, why are they still in it? If they are so christian like they say they are they should leave America and do all of us a favor.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Good question.

Thanks for reading.


Heather 6 years ago

It's a lot different when you actually ARE a lesbian. Fighting for my country also means that I fight for people that live in it with me, which includes those protesters. They have their opinions, and so do I. My faith brings me to do good for others, regardless of our differences. I'm proud of my country, and I'm proud of who I am.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, and thank you for your service.

Thanks for reading.


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rebekahELLE 6 years ago from Tampa Bay

all I can say is the god they have made up is very small and mean. what a terrible disgrace for anyone to display such insensitivity at the funerals of our fine men and women who have given the ultimate sacrifice. shame, shame, shame on these people. it should be a crime. very sad to see how they brainwash their children. thanks for writing and exposing this group. I have to agree with Tom's comment...


RAT 6 years ago

I just learned about the God Hates America group last evening on the news..Sounds a little like Reverend Wright and the Obama group. I also understand that this group is only two familys whom have interbred, where inlays some of the problem. It is very sad that they have brain-washed their childred. It is the soldier's that have died to give them the freedom to do what they are doing..Jane Fonda got away with it!


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shareitt 6 years ago

"every time a soldier dies, this group celebrates because it is a sign that God is on the job." ...this is very sad to read, they obviously enjoy their freedoms, like the freedom of speech...where the *#&%*@%*! do they think they got those freedoms from??? thanks for the info.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Good point. Their freedom of speech comes from the very soldiers they dishonor.

Thanks for reading.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Rat, Reverend Wright and Jane Fonda did not go this far. And it is much more than two families.

Thanks for the comment.

rebekah

Agreed.

Thanks for reading


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William R. Wilson 6 years ago from Knoxville, TN

I think they thrive on the attention they get. They made some threats to come to a funeral in Scott County, Tennessee (where I grew up) but apparently they got word that the response from the the local boys would be rather more unwelcoming than what they are used to. LOL.

Freedom of speech, unfortunately, means we have to tolerate disgusting crap like this.

The good thing is, I think it has the reverse effect of what they intend - people are so offended by the stupid signs that they would never listen to the message.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed. And yes, they have the freedom to do this. But as the previous commentor said, who protects that freedom? Well, I have the freedom to write my little hub and let people know what they are doing in my voice as well.

Thanks for reading.


RAT 6 years ago

Thank for the hub, we can vent our frustrations here. It helps.


Earthbeat 6 years ago

I think it is shameful to wage this kind of protest. It is hate-full, and doesn't reflect any teaching of Jesus I can think of. My pastor is conservative, but once when it was rumored this group was planning to come to a funeral in our city he was livid.

Quite frankly, I am usually suspicious of people who seem to know a lot more about what God is thinking and saying than I do. Too often, their "knowledge" is giving them permission to act in ways which I am sure we would not find Jesus acting.

As Easter, celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ, approaches, I think it's essential Christians truly reflect on what Jesus said, and how he acted. Too often we - I include myself - fall short of the one we consider our Lord and our Savior.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Rat, Thanks for reading.

Earthbeat,

We all fall short. The point is to try. As for these people, they are nowhere near the point.

Thanks for the comment.


sandra rinck 6 years ago

Actually, there was an interview done by a Fox news reporter where the woman reporting gets crazy angry with these people for their blatant and hateful disrespect for Americans, the soldiers and pretty much people all together.

I remember watching this live. I was watching a documentary on these folks and wow, they are really bizarre. And what was more sinister was how their kids, not more than 7 years old are talking about how much God hates fags.

The interviewer for the documentary ask the kid if something like, "how do 'fags' make you feel?" The kid answers that it makes him very angry. The interviewer ask, "Angry enough to kill them?" The kid answers, yes, they make me angry enough to kill them but I wont because God will."

Also, there was a few of their children then ran away from their family because they didn't like or agree with anything that their family was doing. Turns out, they were also victims of child abuse.

Doesn't surprise me. The father preacher, the hateful leader himself swears in his church even! But thankfully the only people who attend his church are is own family.


katysam10 6 years ago

First of all, God doesn't hate. He never would and these people are obviously not true Christians. To be a Christian means to be Christ-like and Christ wouldn't go to soldier's funerals and disturb his or her family by telling them that they are going to hell. Christ would never tell someone that God hates them. These people do NOT believe in God and are fake pieces of trash. Do they not realize how ridiculous they are being? How can someone possibly blame God for America's problems? They must be ignorant morons. That's the only explanation because God is not the reason for America's problems. WE the people, are the ones to blame. It's as simple as that.


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Time Spiral 6 years ago from Florida

Teaching religion to children should be a crime. Think about that. Imagine if the first time you heard about Moses parting the red sea, with his will, was shortly after college level Biology. HA!

Children are what keep a religion alive.

@katysam10,

Actually these people are Christian extremists. This brand of hate, oppression, patronization, and blatant disregard for others is a hallmark of Christian fundamentalists. This is not speculation, but can be easily observed any day of the week, in almost every state and city of our country.

And to think, these people number in the millions ...


Amanda 6 years ago

My husaband is a US Soilder and we belive in God 100%. We try not to judge...but this hits home HARD! I am so sorry for all of the God loving families out there that lost there sons,daughters, husbands, wifes so on... I cant belive they can do this Freedom of speech...NO THIS WENT WAY TO FAR! If my husband died and they came around me GOD HELP THEM! Its sad when people twist the bible around and make it there own (religion). They will pay one day we all know it... God WILL see to it! I love God and I love Jesus.

I pray for them being led by these WRONGE teachings :-( this is just sad! People need to pray thet they get in the right direction befor its to late. And I dont hate (fags) that is there life there choice period! If people dont want to hear about God you dont shove it down there throat. How would you get people to come to God like that?...YOU CANT!

And if you turn peopple away then you need to read the bible more!!! OK there I vented this God hates America thing really P's me off! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THIS SICK WORLD!


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Sandra,

That piece sounds interesting.

Thanks four your comment.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Katysam,

I don't think they are ignorant, but more focused on their religiouns doctorne. No excuse of course.

Thanks for the comment.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Time Spiral,

I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush. Extremism is Extremism and it should be important to not forget that these extremist do not speak for all Christians

Thanks for the comment.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Amanda,

They anger me as well. And thank you to you and your huaband for your service. So little is known how one spouse in the military takes its toll on the entire family. That those left behind sacrafice as well for their country.

To me, it is that sacrafice that is being dishonored.

Thanks for reading


raven1001 6 years ago

One would assume that the reason for these pickets and signs are to spread their message(god hates america) but most rational people would be hesitant to trust a group who thinks it is okay to tell a greiving family their loved one is in hell, at their own funeral no less.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I agree. First Amendment lesson right there. Yes, you can say what you want, but we don't have to listen. Their message is lost because of their actions.

Thanks for reading


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Obscurely Diverse 6 years ago from Tennessee, U.S., Earth, Milky Way via Cosmos

Yeah, they execute freedom of expression, but they also manifest imbecilic gestures! These narrow minded, confined thoughts of utter asininity from these people...display the damaging effects of brainwashing organized religions - which, is a detriment to the overall well-being of society that currently dwells on planet Earth.

Nice hub, by the way...


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I know its hard, its hard for me, but you have to recognize that they have the right to do what they do. But that doesn't mean I or you have to like it. Here I am ranting and raving about them in my own little attempt to defeat their idealogogy. Will this hub change their minds, of course not. But it hopefully expose them for what they are in my mind, and perhaps some will agree with me.

Thanks for reading.


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woodwoman 6 years ago

No they don't. There is a principle in first amendment law known as time, place and manner. This means that what you say has to be appropriate to the place. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater. This is why protesters at things like political conventions are cordoned off in an area well away from where the convention is taking place. You also can't block traffic to protest. The Supreme Court could rule against them if they wanted to.

There's a case where a Albert Snyder, the father of one of the soldiers, is suing Westboro. The 4th Circuit Court of appeals has already ruled against Snyder and it's on the way to the Supreme Court. We can't trust the Supreme Court to rule against these nuts since they gave corporations the same freedom of speech as individuals in the Citizens United v. FCC case. They'll rule in favor of Phelps.

Contact your local motorcycle club like the Hell's Angels or the Wingmen. They've been showing up at some of these funerals "persuading" WBC to back down and go away. These clubs have websites. Tell them that our soldiers' families need their protection. In this case, take the law in your own hands. WBC posts it's demonstration schedule on its website. Show up at a funeral and push them away! Get physical if you have to. They don't understand polite requests, the only thing that will get through is a bit of forceful persuasion.


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mike1242 6 years ago from London

Interesting Hub, its makes the mind boggle to what these people believe in, surely they must understand without the servicemen, they would be unprotected from real threats to there believes, Im based in London and only once that i know off has a group objected to our troops, it was a home coming parade. Well the news reported the objectors and afterwards groups where set up on facebook ect to highlight this type of thing.

We also have groups that support the troops

help the heroes

afgan heroes

Only by getting your American People to back your troops and to stop these demonic things happening at a brave soldiers funeral.

Set up a facebook group, i'll join and help promote through other web sites.

Set up welcome home parades for your troops, let the world see them come home, we also now do this due to public support.

As they serve us we also have to serve them.

Get onto the media and protest, these people are proclaiming a false god.

If treason is awarded to any groups in the USA place these people at the top.

Some time you have to fight fire with fire.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Woodwoman,

Time, place and manner only applies on government property. But I agree with your point and think these people should consider the feelings of the families, which they obviously don't. The Supreme Court unfortuneltely won't protect the families either. This may be the price of living in a free society.

Thanks for the comment.

Mike,

Fire against fire is why I wrote this hub.

at the time I wrote this none of the major news channels were reporting this story. They are now, and groups are organized to expose these people.

Thanks for the comment.


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woodwoman 6 years ago

bgpappa,

Here's what I wrote a few weeks ago about Westboro v. Snyder. I think it's pretty good and you might be interested. http://www.notapundit.com/2010/03/common-sense-v-n...

Time, place and manner restrictions cannot be restrictions on content, just on the time, place or way a message is distributed. This is why abortion protesters must stay a certain distance from a clinic.

Since SCOTUS has demonstrated that the majority sees nothing wrong with judicial activism in the Citizens United case, they could rule against the WBC. They're smart folks and could probably come up with an argument if they wanted to. Even if it was a bad decision and reversed later, it would at least give these families a break. Sooner or later, WBC will disband, give up or die off, it's only a matter of holding them off and pushing them down until they do. That's why I hope the Hell's Angels get into this. The nutjobs at WBC deserve to have the chance to fight, really fight, for what they believe in. After all, that's what those dead soldiers did. WBC deserves the same chance. I think the Hell's Angels would give it to them.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I think they would too. But they won't fight, they will just complain.

Thanks for the comment.


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G.L.A. 6 years ago from Arizona

Those people are not 'Americans' ~ They are Satans children


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I certainly understand your point.

Thanks for the comment.


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syzygyastro 6 years ago from Vancouver, Canada

The pivotal problem here is that "God is love" according to the scriptures they supposedly represent. They also have forgotten "Judge not lest ye be judged" and "He who is without sin, let them cast the first stone". I wonder what secret sins they hide? Admittedly some issues are ones of concern, but they are far over the top. This is an excellent annd informative hub.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

syzgyastro,

I agree with you fully. Seems odd to go against the very teachings you claim to be serving.

Thanks for the comment.


thinking man 6 years ago

what's wrong with all these nut jobs today i swear this worlds gone to hell in a nut shell -.-


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Sometimes it appears that way.

Thanks for the comment


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mike1242 6 years ago from London

here's a facebook group that's been set up against these people http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=355406162379 here's the description of group----

Description:

Matthew Snyder fought and died in Iraq for this country and we are so proud of him. But, at Matt's funeral Westboro protested against Matt and harrassed Matt's family. Al, Matt's father, sued them and he won.Then, Westboro countersued and they overturned the case, citing freedom of speech Now the Supreme Court has decided to take the case. Lets hope that they will see the serious error in allowing these sort of protests to be held at a funeral.

http://www.wgal.com/video/22469574/

Please show your support for Al and for Matt. R.I.P. Matthew Snyder. (read less)

Matthew Snyder fought and died in Iraq for this country and we are so proud of him. But, at Matt's funeral Westboro protested against Matt and harrassed Matt's family. Al, Matt's father, sued them and he won.Then, Westboro countersued and they overturned the case, citing freedom of speech Now the Supreme Court has decided to take the case. Lets hope that they will see the serious error in allowing these sort of protests to be held at a funeral.

Good luck with this.....


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for the link. And Matthew Snyder is a hero that deserves better.

Thanks for reading


DIANNE ELKO 6 years ago

GOD DOES NOT HATE AMERICA!BELIEVE IT OR NOT, GOD EVEN LOVES THE IDIOTS THAT THINK THIS.IF THESE PEOPLE DO THIS TO OUR SOLDIERS WHO FIGHT AND DIE FOR THIS COUNTRY,THEN WHY DON'T THEY GO LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT THEY THINK GOD DOES LOVE?


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well put Dianne,

Thanks for reading


Nathan 6 years ago

As an Indian, when I look at your country and her involvement in the Gulf and in other places, I would ask what the people of America has gained. In matters of morality I would ask what is your touching stone? Can you sacrifice morals in the name of human rights and freedom of speech and practice? Most of the Americans do not have international political and social exposure. They know only what the American media tell them. It will be shocking to know what the world think of America after September 11. US defense systems with all its sophistication has become a laughing stock. It is good to have an introspection and study of the economic and political status of the US in the global scenario today involving ordinary US citizens to raise US national awareness of problems raised in this post.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Nathan,

I agree that it is good for the US to look at itself and improve from within, I take some issue with your point about the laughing stock. America has problems yes, but it is our right to point them out. I can write what I want here without fear of retribution, except for others who will use their right to disagree. I agree, the years under Bush undermined our moral authority, but things are turning today.

Thanks for the comment.


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bonnebartron 6 years ago from never one place for too long

Okay, so obviously these people are demented, and more than likely the whole reason they are doing this is to get publicity. If any publicity is good publicity these guys must be basking in it. I wish I could say I was above HATING THE HELL out of these people, but Alas I am only human and when I look at these pictures, and read this article all I can think is Where the hell is Jim Jones when he's needed? We can only hope that these psychos take a page from his book.... I know that's a bit hateful, but honestly, if anyone deserves to be laid to rest in peace and love it is our fighting men and women. It sickens me to see innocent children corrupted by hate, and even more so to watch them perpetuate it. This just proves there are psychos everywhere, and weak minded people will believe anything that another tells them to. As for NATHEN, I'd like to comment on your post as well... As an Indian you probably know a little about the travesties that happen in your own country. No country is blameless. I have had the pleasure of working on quite a few bollywood movies and one thing is for certain, throwing stones in a glass house is a bad idea, but throwing stones in a house constructed on the dehumanization of people for what socioeconomic level they are born into, i.e. India's cast system, is like ramming a bulldozer against a tent. Just things to consider...


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Bonne,

I agree, I don't like to hate either, but these people really put me to the test. As for Nathan, I agree as well, no country is blameless. My point to him was at least I feel here, I can speak out against it.

Thanks for the comment.


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outdoorsguy 6 years ago from Tenn

like the hub..

all I can honestly say is.. if these people ever show up at any Funeral I am at. I will be going to jail. They have the right as obscene as they are to protest. and they have the right to receive my response till the police arrive.

besides I think Jesus did a wee bit of violence once.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, couldn't imagine how I would react if I saw it personally.

Thanks for the comment.


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bonnebartron 6 years ago from never one place for too long

Outdoorsguy, I feel for you, I had the same exact reaction! BGpappa, you are so right, we can comment on it here, in the lovely USofA and most other countries don't have that freedom. Or the freedom to be whatever it is you work toward, not what your born into.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well said Bonnebarton

Thanks for reading


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Hi-Jinks 6 years ago from Wisconsin

It's time to TAX religion, and regulated it like drugs.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed.

Thanks for reading.


lorne 6 years ago

what on earth do these dimented and screwed up people believe their accomplishing!....that's right, nothing! they are worthless excuses for people that simply havnt got a clue what to do with their weak and dead lives apart fomr listen to some old bloke who clearly doesn't know what our soldiers are doing for our countries. Turn up at a funeral im at, i give it 5 minutes before im arrested. Publicity is all their after! why give it to them, they clearly have nothing else in this world so why give them anything else!


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed,

Thanks for reading.


RevealHim 6 years ago

This is a cult and the worst kind. They pretend to belong to the Church but they spew their lies. Christ loved and died for us while we were all still sinners and His offer is for all who would believe, confess and repent. I don't see any of Christ Love in these folks, not a drop. They are deep woods lost if you ask me and their leading the little ones astray. Jesus said by this you will know them (His Children) If they obey my commands and have love for one another.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Reveal,

Agreed. Thanks for reading.


jOHN 6 years ago

YOU ARE ONE CRAZY, STUPID BITCH.WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?YOU MAY NEED TO CONSIDER FINDING GOD,BECAUSE YOU WILL BURN IN HELL,YOU DUMB ASS PASCIFIST BITCH!!!!


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

John,

The Caps really add to your credibility. Could you make a reasoned argument.

And by the way, if this in some way trying to support this group, I think you proved my point.

Thanks for reading.


Thesource 6 years ago

They seem to believe that the almighty, perfect, and all knowing God is in the habit of mass producing creatures he ends up hating. May be they think God is also neurotic and this almighty being desperately needs their actions to please Him.

May be they should follow Toyota, who despite their imperfections, seem to have a far better track record on their creations compared to God.

Do they really know who God is to tell us what he likes or hates?


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

No they don't source. I think (think) that they think god puts things on this earth as tests to see who is really worthy. Bunch of crap if you ask me, but I think that is how they explain the divide you point out.

Thanks for reading.


MSBN 6 years ago

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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

um, ok, thanks for leaving something.


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bradleyssurplus 6 years ago

These people are the most disgusting and outrageous excuses for human beings on planet Earth. Even if I did agree with their statements which I unequivocally DO NOT, I certainly wouldn't consider a funeral the propper time to make my voice heard. Their message is hateful, disrespectful and beyond absurd. Also, I firmly believe the children of these members should be taken away from them immediately. Breeding hate that young is outrageously irresponsible. These kids don't even know what they're saying! Yet they will grow up to be distructive, self righteous hate mongers. Dispicable.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed Bradley,

Thanks for the comment.


Zhorik 6 years ago

God hates thi filthy disgusting America,a nation that hates God and tolerates abortions,faggots,dykes,and other subhumans.


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bgpappa 6 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

why isn't that people who think this way can't spell? Just wondering.

Thanks for reading zhorik and God hates you, trust me.


Tom 5 years ago

Nothing a bottle of Buteric Acid can't dispurse. Takes Whale Wars in a new direction


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed.

Thanks for reading


salty2 5 years ago

THE SOLUTION TO THIS SITUATION AND THE EVIL PEOPLE FROM KANSAS IS SIMPLE......

SOLDIERS LOOK AFTER THEIR OWN AND PROTECT EACH OTHER ON THE BATTLFIELD - THEY SHOULD DO THE SAME THING ON HOME TURF -- TAKE DOWN AND TAKE OUT THE EVIL ENEMY....

PROBLEM SOLVED..... A FEW DEAD BASTARDS AND THERE WILL BE NO MORE...


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I am with you salty in spirit.

Thanks for the comment.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

First time reader, and I'll be back bgpappa. Most of my stuff is on religion and politics, so I'll give you my simple take. God hates hate. It's not God who hates America (although he's not real happy with a few things) it's these dirt bags who hate America. This stuff pisses me off. Great hub and you've got a new fan.

jim


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks manwithnopants,

I agree. Its a combination of perversion of religion and patriotism at the same. An incredible feat but certainly not conduct I condone. Thanks for reading.


drosent288@aol.com 5 years ago

Fred Phelps is the most miserable, disgusting excuse for

a human being that I have ever heard of or read about. He

barely deserves the title of "human" My question to him"

"At long last, sir, have you no decency? Have you no

decency?"


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed drosent.

Thanks for reading.


Mohammed 5 years ago

American life style is not only a poison to America but the rest of the world. Americans are little more then Animals. Their only goal is to feed their greedy and selfish urges, no matter how many people have to die in order for their greedy urges to be fulfilled. That is okay as long as those people are not American. Oww wait. I forgot 9/11 which was America's doing. LOl they have hkilled their own people just so they can murder millions of muslim and get some oil in their tanks. I especially belive that their will actually be a whole section of hell just for Americans. America is just a big burden on Earth and humanity. Peace is not possible with American policies like "Americnas first". America has never been about peace. Their type of peace inlcludes opression and torture. Their type of peace consists of the theory that American needs are more important then needs of every other people. That is what America is based on.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Yes, and we are proud of it.

Thanks for reading.


Samantha 5 years ago

I am almost in tears reading this. My husband is a soldier who has served 3 tours in Iraq. He and I have had many friends injured and killed in Iraq - one of which these heartless people protested his funeral....


oldman 5 years ago

It seems to me that you people are really muslems hiding behind someone elses religion. I beleive all of you should be on a terrorist watch list and investigated very closely.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Samantha, I am very sorry to hear that. Thank you and your family for your service.

Thanks for stopping by


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

oldman,

to whom are you referring. The people who side with the terrorists and pray for our soldiers to die, or those who don't like those people?

Thanks for reading


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

oldman,

to whom are you referring. The people who side with the terrorists and pray for our soldiers to die, or those who don't like those people?

Thanks for reading


Person 5 years ago

Even little kids damn...


firefightermedic7 5 years ago

This group is totally messed up and as a firefighter I hope they show up to the funeral of anyone i know because i will promise this, their gonna be leaving bruised and sore because punches and elbows are gonna fly and you can bet the cops who are my friends wont see a thing until they strike me and then they're gonna be on my side. This group is totally disrespectful and the fact that they protested on the Virginia Tech shooting shows that they themselves need to be shot because they are just as crazy as the psycho who led the shooting at Tech. If they go back to Virginia Tech this April I hope some of my college friends knock a few of them out and knock some sense into them!!!


Billmitch 5 years ago

These people are complete losers and should remember, it's disabled vets like myself that have fought to give idiots like this the free speech that allows them to do this crap. GOD forbid I EVER see them at a military funeral, I will give up my rights to be a free man to teach any of them a REAL lesson.


tammy 5 years ago

These idiots call themselves Christians? They really do not know God.

Too bad we cannot just throw all these judgemental nuts out of this country. They do not deserve to live here, let alone someone die for their freedom.

I feel sorry for their brainwashed kids. What kind of parent would let their kid hold a sign like that?

They should have gone with that crazy guy Jim Jones or that other nut in the sweat lodge. Maybe some sense would have sept through their ignorant brains.

They should go live with Ben Ladin because they are no better than he is. They probably have no soul. Notice on their website they say they are not trying to save people's souls. What kind of church is that? Sounds like a crazy cult to me.

We just need to pray for these people. That is all especially if the government will not stop them from protesting at the brave young men's funerals. (even if they were gay)


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Person,

I know, a little scary.

Thanks for stopping by


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

firefighter,

I understand your anger, trust me. expose them for what they are, that is my philosophy.

Thanks for reading and for what you do


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Tammy and Bil,

Agree with you sentiment. Expose them.

Thanks for reading.


big j mac 5 years ago

why don't u guys get a life. how dare u thank god there are dead soliders. who the hell do u think gave u the right to speak the way u do them dead soliders. my grandfother died a marine how dare u think his death is invane. you guys make me sick to my stomich. get a life and leave the griving familys alone.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed Big J.

Thanks for the comment


shawna 5 years ago

Damn i just seen ur story on the news where you think god kills u.s. soldiers...i am beside byself with rage you guys are stupid and outta control have sone respect you all should go to hell and see what your preaching you people make me sick


licious 5 years ago

Stupid ignorant judgemental fools you people are. God loves everyone! And protesting anything at funerals is wrong and disrespectful have some respect stop being ignorant n have some heart you idiots are outta control and u frustrate me enough that if you came to a funeral i was at and i was hurtinh your faces would be hurting to for being disrespectful of the dead....


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed, they should have some respect licious

Thanks for reading


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I dont agree with these people Shawna, I am against them. But they make me sick too.

Thanks for reading.


daniel lane  5 years ago

I HOPE THERE MOMS GET RAPED AND THERE BABYS ALSO I HOPE THERE WEST BORO BAPITIST CHURCH GETS BLOWN UP WITH THEM IN IT ALSO I HOPE THEY GO TO THE ZOO AND DROP THERE KIDS IN A TIGER CAGE LION CAGE OR IN ALIGATOR WATER AT THE ZOO ALSO THAT THEY GO TO HELL AND BE SATAN BITCH ALSO I HOPE THERE BABYS GET ASS RAPED AND SHOT IN THE HEAD LAST I HAVE TO SAY IS I HOPE THERE NEW BORNS ARE BORN GAY.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I can understand the anger Daniel, trust me.

Thanks for the comment.


DarkAngel 5 years ago

I have no words to describe my hate towards these people. there is no threat I could make, gruesome enough to get my point across. But I will say that when we are sharing a spot in hell. I will swim through the maggots and lava to everyone in your church, and then, with out hesitation, sexually assault all of you orally. In jesus' holy name we pray. AMEN.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

DarkAngel,

I think your words got the point across just fine. And I agree with your sentiment.

Thanks for stopping by


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Ralph Deeds 5 years ago

I prefer the Landover Paptist Church. Here's a link to it's website:

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

(Please delete my previous post.)


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

No problem Ralph,

Interesting link, didn't have time to determine whether than was an actual church or joke. Kind of telling of the problem right there I think.

Thanks for stopping by


a-mei 5 years ago

I HATE ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE ALL THEY WONT IS POWER AND MONEY BUT 2 ME ALL WOMEN WONT IS MONEY AND A RICH MAN IF YOU ARE RICH YOU CAN GET A FEMALE FROM THE AGE OF 18 AND UP.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

um, thanks for the comment, I guess


Laura 5 years ago

Though their signs are offensive still they are getting the message out there that God hates sin.

Everything they protest is actually sin; murder, homosexuality, fornication, divorce, and so on.

I don't think Reverend Phelps is a loony. He is a fire and brimstone preacher.

He has an impressive secular resume. He was at one time a civil rights lawyer. Eleven of his thirteen children are laywers.He is not a novice.

For reasons for others to figure out; he is well armed and protected to preach against sin.

I don't agree with HOW he says what he says, but I do agree that America is in deep trouble with the God of the Bible.

He has every right to say what he says and the Supreme Court agrees.


Hatred 5 years ago

You know I am Active Duty Army and I was in the Honor Guard about 6 months ago, and some nut cases with signs came, but I have to say Thank God for the bikers, they did not even come near us. But they were shouting crazy things through a microphone. If I was able to take some of those guys out, im sure all of us would. There is a difference between freedom of speech and harassment, guess those guys will never understand it. I know for sure though if my son or daughter has gotten killed in a war, those guys better not show up cause I have got something for them.


Rob  5 years ago

Some facts for you about this blight on Christianity Raoul:

(1) The founder and minister (Fred Phelps) is a former lawyer who was disbarred for frivolous litigation.

(2) One of Fred's daughters has actually disowned him and changed her name... to hide her identity.

(3) Almost every person in the church and protests is a family member of Phelps

(4) Their sole income is proceeds from litigation suing for being deprived for their Constitutional rights

(5) Westboro Bpatist church is a constant target of police visits for child abuse and spousal abuse yet nothing can be proven

(6) The city of Topeka has enacted multiple resolutions condemning WestBoro Baptist Church

(7) One of their most infamous protests was standing outside the church for the Matthew Shepard funeral with a float saying "Matthew as been in hell for xx days.xx days in hell" and their web site still carries this page.

(8) THe phelps family lives in a compound with children, grand children, etc

(9) Phelps son carries on the family heritage of legal blood sucking by filing law suits against those who block their protests

(10) The web site contains a schedule. It is a pure scare tactic as they seldom show up at more than 1 - 2 of the scheduled locations a month if that many.

I have followed this crowd of haters for years and they thrive on the free publicity. They are brain washed cult and are not worth the tissue to blow their nosesSee More

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nickh2011 5 years ago

I'm looking to write a hub about this issue sometime soon but I have to say this... WBC does not deserve to be protected by the Constitution. How they can go out and maliciously inflict emotional distress to mourning families then cower behind the Constitution, shows us that they are true hypocrites and blasphemers.


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nickh2011 5 years ago

Scratch the line about me writing a hub about the WBC... Rob pretty much summed up everything, in a nutshell. Thanks Rob! But I want to add that every time you see Shirley Phelps interviewed, whether on TV or by people that come up to her during their protests, whenever questions are directed toward her faith and/or her sins, she gives an incoherent answer completely avoids the question, in general, and is disrespectful and clearly fails God's command, as stated:

"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect." -- 1 Peter 3:15

Just watch any news segment or protest video confrontation on YouTube and you'll see what I'm talking about.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Laura,

I agree he has the right to say it, and I have the right to say what I am saying. But to say it at a soldier's funeral, its more than offensive. Just because you have the right to do it doesn't mean you should. By the way, Jesus would have shown more tolerance that these guys do.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving a thoughtful comment.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Hatred, well said. And thank you for your service.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Rob, tahnks for the info. That was the point of my hub, to expose them for what they are.

Thanks for the comment.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Nick, you should still write your hub. Just make sure to give Rob proper credit for his info. But write your hub. At the very least, should a soldier ever be looking on the internet, they know there are people disgusted by this and are willing to say so publicly.

Thanks for stopping by


Anti-hypocrit 5 years ago

Them motherf***ers! Don't they know on judgement day they will be held accounted for on their anti-God crap? Some of them soldiers are just kids. And He will have his vengeance on the people that don't fight for what's right. And the deepest part of hell is reserved for them. And there are no athiests there they all believe now. God Bless!


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Anti,

I agree, I don't understand why this group directs its anger towards our troop. Makes no sense and gives them no credibility in my book.

Thanks for stopping by


Roberto 5 years ago

The taliban lonves Westboro Catholic Church!


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Roberto,

They seem to have a lot in common. Thanks for reading.


TUB GUY 5 years ago

bgpappa, give it a rest,also getting tired of looking at your ugley face.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

So you have nothing to add then?

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topvet929 5 years ago

I AM GLAD YOU CAN CRUSIFY THOSE BRAVE THOSE MEN AND WOMEN FOR GIVING THERE ALL TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT. YOUR RIGHT BUT IF YOU BELIEVE THEY GAVE IT ALL FOR NOTHING GO TO THE COUNTRY THAT IS BETTER THAN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Topvet, I totally agree with you. These people who protest at soldier's funerals only have that freedom because of the very soldiers they disrespect. That is what is so disgusting.

Thanks for reading.


TRUBAPTIST 5 years ago

I FU*KIN HATE THOSE DAMN DEVIL WORSHIPERS CUZ THEY HAV BEEN STEERED AWAY FROM THE TRU WORD OF GOD. GOD KNW HOW WE WERE GOING TO B THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE WE WERE BORN SOO HE MADE SURE THOSE PPL WHO R GAY WERE MENT TO BE. THEY ARE PERFECT JUST THE WAY THEY ARE. SOO U CAN SUCK IT FRICKIN DEVIL WORSHIPERS!


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Well, I certainly understand where you are coming from.

Thanks for the comment.


Misty 5 years ago

We are all responsible for our own actions you cant blame god for our own doing God does not make you do anything and how shameful is it when our military men cant get an honerable barieal as they sooo deserve! There is no morals or values in this!!!!!!!! This kind of behavior makes me sick to my stomach!!!!! Shame on them! I hope that one day they will come to know God because it is very clear they dont! God bless our troops for our freedom!!!!!!!!!


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Very well said Misty, and I totally agree with you.

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Darkreno1 5 years ago

If there was a God, he would hate religion.


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bgpappa 5 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

I agree darkreno. Thanks for reading


Ingunn 4 years ago

You Are all crazy,and i hope You all Are going to hell if there is such a place!


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Assuming you are talking to the God Hates America folks, thank you for reading.


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mpoche4 4 years ago from Baton Rouge, LA

It is shameful that these groups involve children that have yet been given the opportunity to form their own beliefs.


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed mpoche, they use kids to get attention, holding offensive signs in the hopes that no one will mind.

Whole thing is shameful. Thanks for reading.


so true 4 years ago

if there was a real god, we would not be on this earth suffering.


so true 4 years ago

god put us on this earth to suffer, i wish we had a real god because this would have never happened.


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thanks for stopping by so true


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jerseys4kids.com 4 years ago from Vancouver / Bangkok

America is a pretty strange place? A guy in Florida kills an unarmed child, because he finds him "suspicious", and claims self defense? You have religious nuts that burn Korans, and protest at funerals, and that's OK, because everyone is entitled to their opinion.. right? The free speech thing .. well unless you are Ozzie Guillen, who apparently has NO right to "admire" Fidel Castro. You have just got to imagine what all this looks like from the outside looking in ..


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

America isn't easy Jersey. Ozzie was punished by a private organization, not the government, and that is the difference. But I get your point. But if we are truly free, then people get to say things that make other people mad without retribution from the government. That is true freedom. But the fact that we CAN do something doesn't mean we should. And I think that is what everyone is forgetting. Yes, these protestors CAN protest at a soldier's funeral technically. But they shouldn't. And I and everyone else has the right to tell them to shut it.

Thanks for stopping by.


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jerseys4kids.com 4 years ago from Vancouver / Bangkok

A private organization can not legally persecute an employee for being gay, for being Muslim or Christian, or being black or Hispanic, so what gives them the right to punish Ozzie for "admiring" Castro? I think it is sad that these lunatics are allowed to get anywhere near a funeral, but I also think it is a sad day when Americans are not entitled to have their own political opinions, without worrying about potential punishment from their employer ..


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

While I agree with you about Ozzie and feel he has the right to say whatever he wants, and he has the right to speak his mind, that doesn't mean there are never consequences. There are no consequences from the government. Nobody is going to be arrested. But I totally agree with the sentiment.

Thanks for reading.


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Thomas Swan 4 years ago from New Zealand

Seeing as this group despise democrats and republicans alike, it appears they are not politically represented by anyone. So you have to ask, should they be represented? A perfect democracy would represent everyone, but the views these people espouse are seen by most as abominable. It's the same for fascists and communists, should they be represented? I really don't know, what do you all think?

As a psychologist, this God Hates America group appears to have no sense of emotion for the distress they cause others. In the literature, this is suggestive of psychopathy. However, I'm sure they are capable of emotion, so what this indicates is a very entrenched group mentality, or a cult. To see children brought up this way is heart-breaking. Those kids never had a chance of a normal life.


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thomas, as much as it pains me to say, yes, this group should be represented. However, that does not mean they get a member of Congress or something. It means they have the right to free speech, assembly, etc, as much as anyone else. If you love America, you have to defend their right to say things.

But you don't have to defend what they say or what they stand for. I have just as much of a right to go on my little blog here and scream for the rooftops that these people are crazy. And I have. And I will continue to do so. On this Memorial Day, I remember those who sacrificed to ensure that I have that right. And I thank them.


Michael 4 years ago

GOD LOVES EVERYBODY!!! He is definitely disappointed with the sins committed in America, especially with people like these. But God IS watching over everybody, and here's a verse that may even clear things up from this: Ecclesiastes 7:1 -and the day of death better than the day of birth.

If somebody dies, it doesn't mean that God did wrong to bring that upon them; to the wise man, death is a beautiful thing.

God Bless.


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

ok, thanks for the comment


Bob Perez 4 years ago

The Westboro Baptist Church is the only church in America who preaches the real truth about God. Every other church just gives you a watered-down version telling you what you want to hear. They tell you what you NEED to hear, and that's why they get such a bad rap. If I had the money to move to Kansas, I would join them in a heartbeat.


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bgpappa 4 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Really? God is against us so that is why soldiers die? That is truth? Is is God's work to harass grieving families? What a warped way to read the bible.

But thanks for stopping by.


stevejensen302@gmail.com 3 years ago

just watched most hated.what a lunatic . they r completely and certifiable nuts . they need to b dying instead of our soldiers. stupid bitch. drop dead ! Please


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bgpappa 3 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Agreed Steve. Thanks for stopping by


Lou 2 years ago

I agree with them to a point, I think God does hate this nation and is getting ready to hit us with his punishment (Wrath) just like Sodom and Gomorrah, but I don't agree with them that God hates Israel God has an everlasting covenant with that nation and the Jews but not America so what is to stop him from sending his righteous punishment our way, the bloated, arrogant, narcissistic, egotistical flag waving attitudes of Americans? Let's see, the stock market slam of 2008, 9/11, and now an everlasting bloodbath in Iraq that will eventually bring most of Americas sons and daughters home in a pine box. There is nothing positive about that. And the sad part is you cannot change the brainwashed minds patriotic armchair warriors who think like the captain of the Titanic, "That God himself Cannot sink this ship". well it looks as though one bulkhead has been breached and America is slowly taking on water. Hope you got your life preservers ready...


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Thomas Swan 2 years ago from New Zealand

What can we do to appease our wrathful god? Should we make burnt offerings on an alter like Noah did in Genesis 8:20-21? That seemed to work.


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bgpappa 2 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Lou, Why would God have such Wrath. And why blame only 1 group for it? And to make soldiers funerals the place to make that statement, disgusting.

Thanks for stopping by though.


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bgpappa 2 years ago from Sacramento, California Author

Thomas, Or perhaps stop promoting hate in God's name. Just my opinion.

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