Gruber Gate And A Speak-O

The latest Liar of the Year nominee is a guy who goes by the name of Jonathan Gruber. The controversy centers around the recent Washington DC Circuit Court ruling that Obama can't give individual subsides to states that didn't set up their own state exchanges. That's what the law says and old Gruber boy was one of the chief architects of said Affordable Care Law which is really turning out to be unaffordable and getting worse.

That's the "gate" in Gruber Gate in a nut shell and Obama and his crowd are now squirming like worms on a hot rock and denying the language of the very law they crafted in secret minus any Republican input, despite another lie Gruber uttered in the video below.

Now here's something that continues to escape me about this administration in the 21st Century. They seem to not quite grasp the fact that what they say in the course of doing business is invariably caught on video or sound tape in their own person or voice. This is the age of digital technology guys and girls.

You may have to listen to this tape more than once to capture all of what is said as it is fast and down and dirty. Lets watch now.

Listen Closely To What He Really Meant

I'm thinking Obama is collecting more "gates" than the Bronx Zoo as scandal after scandal unfolds like Christmas presents underneath the yule tree. This latest one is being re-termed a "speak-o" rather than a "typo." The intent of what Gruber did was an attempt at bribing the individual states into setting up their own health care exchanges. It wasn't a speak-o or a typo but words meant to coerce.

If you don't believe that go back to the video and watch it and pay attention to the sub-text of his words as he spoke to various forums as he attempted to write, and justify, the wording that he used in doing so. He almost lies as easily as Obama now but might need a bit more practice.

Then we have another partisan hack named Greg Sargeant who writes for the Washington Post who contends that the Halbig decision was in error because the first draft had different wording than the final draft. I'm wondering if this supposed reporter has ever written a draft before and understands what one is. His argument actually proves that Congress meant the present language to be there ass it is and wasn't any speak-o or typo by any means.

Yes the language was to permit subsidies for the federal exchange was penned into the first draft. But guess what happened? The Democratic crafters in Congress took the language out ass they didn't want it to be in the final product. That's what drafts are all about Greg Sergeant you bean head. Any intelligent person who uses just a tad of logic assumes that Congress intended to not grant those subsidies to people on the federal exchanges because they intentionally took the wording out.

When I went through school a deliberate omission was never termed a typo and a speak-o was unheard of.

Lets not start calling a bribe or coercive language in a federal law anything but what they are and a "speak-" they are not. If any language is taken out of a proposed bill and substituted by other specific language, which was the case in the ACA section 1311, has been considered by legal scholars to be conclusive proof that a Congress desired the language that was substituted to be the law. The idea that they intended otherwise is a liberal, progressive fantasy.

Then Gruber compounded his lies by contending that Republicans were the problem with the language which was even more over the cliff. I've included a link to a Hub I wrote, based upon through research, that lays out most of the process in "who" craftsmanship of the Affordable Care Act also affectionately known as Obamacare which remains unpopular with the general public. The fact is Gruber is that the Republicans were actually physically locked out of the process in many cases thanks to Harry Reid.

Then when the bill was voted on no one was given time to read those 2,700 + pages before it came to a vote. And not one Republican lawmaker was stupid enough to vote for such a debacle but every single stupid Democrat up there did. Many lost their prized seats in Congress in 2010 and I have more than a few losing theirs in the coming 2014 mid-terms.

Now I'm not expecting the Lame Stream Media to expose Jonathan Gruber's lies to the public but you can help the cause by sharing this news with as many people as you know. The LSM was compromised long ago and has lost the credibility they should have to report the news and not try to be the news.

The other salient point in any discussion about this subject, be it legal or otherwise, is that our law makers have been passing legislation and Obama has been signing it without reading the words they are voting on or signing into the law of the land. Now Obama has taken it upon himself to try to change the words of the law of the land to suit his own purposes. That has never been the intent of executive orders as spelled out in the US Constitution but that doesn't phase Barack Hussein Obama in the least. "Constitutional professor for 10 years" my butt.

Every last one of those law makers who voted to pass that bill without reading it needs to lose their prized seat cushion and maybe go back to school and learn how to read and comprehend. Typos or speak-o's aren't going to cut the mustard if our nation is to survive their idiocy. Is it too much to ask these people we elect to do their job?


QUOTE OF THE DAY: Gruber in 2012: “I guess I’m enough of a believer in democracy, to think that when the voters and states see that by not setting up an exchange the politicians in the state are costing state residents hundreds of millions and billions of dollars that they’ll eventually throw the guys out. But, I don’t know that for sure, and that is really the ultimate threat.”

Mind sharing this? I didn't think so...

As Always,

The Frog Prince

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Wayne Brown 2 years ago from Texas

This guy may believe in a lot of things but the concept of democracy totally evades him and any references to it are used simply to make his pleas more palatable to the listeners. As to the language, Congress would be among the last to know what this legislation says---they didn't read it. Those changes took place long before this legislation came to vote and they were made by the crafters of the legislation. The whole idea here was to use the "lure" of upfront money paid by the federal government to the States and then leave the States holding the bag with the on-going overhead downstream. Sure some States ran out there and embraced it because the scumbags running them could not wait to get their paws in those federal dollars. That "bribe" of sorts did not work across the board and suddenly this change of text has come home to roost. Now the crafters of this trainwreck want to cry fowl because their devious little plan has been unmasked. Typo (or Speak-O) my ass--this is nothing less than a handful of socialist stabbing the American public in the back--again and again. ~WB


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Many of those states that initially wanted on the federal gravy train and set up their own exchanges now have seen the error of their ways and have their people going to the federal exchanges when their health care exchanges crashed and burned too. Another WHOOPS!


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

I just saw on the news where the Obamacare website cost is now up to $182 Million and it still doesn't work. We also know the company awarded the contract was a sweetheart arrangement with no limit on how much they could charge.

I love the new term "Speak-o." We have seen many incidents where some of our leaders still deny saying something even after viewing a video of those very words spilling out of their mouths. We have some of the best liars in the world filling the chairs in Washington, and those damn videos just keep popping up.

Another truly great Hub from one of my favorite writers.


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

The GAO ran a scam sting on Obamacare and had people with bogus ID's sign up for Obamacare and get approved. Amazing huh Mike?


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

Well Jim, considering that this is "FREE" medical care, in the famous words of Hillary, "What difference does it make?"


Stu 2 years ago

In proper legal theory, Gruber is correct that the intent of Congress (constructionism) trumps the black and white letter of the law (textualism). But in this case, constructionism and textualism are the same. The fact that the final ACA bill omitted subsidies for the federal exchanges, but the draft bill included them, is a clear indication that Congressional intent matches the text of the final ACA bill that was passed into law. ObamaCare supporters in Camelot-On-Potomac simply anticipated that most or all States would jump at the chance for subsidies by building their own exchanges. But it didn't happen. So to make sure that the income based subsidy/load system on which ObamaCares's so-called promise of "affordable health care for the lower income class" would be fulfilled (it really wasn't because the subsidies are not large enough to move the needle for the working poor), Gruber's kangaroo court is coming to the rescue with a "fix" that any "real" judge (Bork, Thomas, Napolitano, etc.) would laugh out of the courtroom. The Judiciary has become a shill for the Administration, because Obama got to personally select so many federal judges. With no independent Judiciary, and a Congress being overridden by Presidential EO's, we in effect now have a one-branch federal Executive dictatorship. Welcome to Amerika comrades.


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Gruber's statements will not go unnoticed when the subsidy case goes to the Supreme Court. The subsidies were intended as bait to get states to create exchanges, but that failed since only 16 states took the bait, so the liberals decided to just ignore the law and also offer subsidies to qualified buyers who used the federal site.

It is now clear that both the letter of the law and the intent was to limit subsidies to states with exchanges, so if the Supreme Court justices rule honestly and correctly, it's a stake right through the heart of Obamacare.


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Old Poolman 2 years ago from Rural Arizona

It will prove interesting what the Supreme Court does with this one. The last time I thought they would rule wisely, Obamacare was declared to be a tax. Let's hope we don't get yet another surprise.


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The Frog Prince 2 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike I got ya. The tax that Obama claimed wasn't a tax. Go figure.


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

BTW, it's 14 states, not 16 that created exchanges.

36 (72%) refused.

If that was a poll of states, it would be 28% for Obamacare, and 72% opposed. That's a disaster in itself!


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FitnezzJim 2 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

So,

27 of 50 States filed suit in federal court against the law.

36 of 50 States refused to created exchanges.

Senators voted to subjugate the States to a Partisan Federal Health Care Law.

The conclusion seems obvious. Obama has kept his promise. America has been fundamentally transformed. Partisanship rules, and neither the People nor the States have a say.


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breakfastpop 2 years ago

Government can't run anything.....


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WillStarr 2 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

"Government can't run anything....."

Today, we got a letter delivered to our mailbox which is addressed to the other side of town and with a different zip code.

And they want to run our health care?

Really?

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