Hatred Disguised as Freedom of Speech

You get no name or picture here.  I will not give you any more publicity than you have already gotten.  It is undeserved.  SHAME ON YOU!!!!

Go ahead protest one of the Military Bases, I DARE You!

Just because it’s Legal doesn’t make it right. This is in regards to the protestors who feel it’s necessary to protest at the funerals of our fallen Soldiers. Protesting against homosexuality. There are too many other places to launch a protest, why pick a funeral? Because the dead that can‘t speak back. You are weak, go protest at one of the many Military Bases that we have. Or are there too many live people there for you to take on?

Freedom of Speech

The bereaved are so grief stricken at the loss of their child/family member that nothing is done until it’s too late. A change of venue is not possible. The Courts have upheld the 1st Amendment “Freedom of Speech”. Yes, they should. I know it even feels wrong to say this, but if it were any other way I wouldn’t be writing what I am about to.

To all of you who believe what this so called Church are doing is right, I believe in my heart of hearts that you are headed in a southerly direction. And I don’t mean geographically, so to speak. I believe that you are the proverbial snow ball headed for hell.

Shame on You!!

I cannot believe that ANY God would condone the direct and purposeful hurting of another human being.  A funeral is a time for bereavement, a time for grieving, a time for coming together to remember the loved one and a chance for healing.  What you are doing is postponing all of the above.  In effect you are hurting another persons time with God, since most of these protests occur around or near a Church, at the very least with a Pastor in attendance.  It is guaranteed that someone within the group is praying.  Whether it be for the lost one, the living ones or even the souls of those protesting.  Someone is praying, this is without a doubt.

Shame on You!  How would you feel if someone were to come along and protest your time with God?  You certainly wouldn’t like it.  You would feel as though you were being intruded upon.  You would feel as though someone was violating you as a person.


Just Plain Wrong!

It is none of your business that there are those who prefer the same sex, just as it is none of mine.  If God has a problem with it, then he will deal with them on an individual basis.  It is not up to you to interpret what God has to say then beat it into others.  We have the Bible, it is up to us as individuals to interpret it.  If we seek someone with higher understanding to help us, then that too is our business.

Do I have beliefs?  You betcha!  But that too is NONE of your business.  I am not trying to beat my religious beliefs into your small minded heads.  I am trying to help you understand that when you cause harm to another person that is WRONG.  Wrong on so many levels.

John 13:34-35

Do you need help reading your Bible?  Maybe one little passage?  It’s pretty plain and simple, self explanatory, no need for someone with a higher level of understanding to help you on this.  John 13:34-35  Here I’ll put it right here so you don’t have to go look it up!          

34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

How simple is that?  How difficult is it to understand?  Are you doing as has been commanded?  If you go around toting your Bibles, thumping people on the head with the word of God, then these words should be quite simple for you to understand.  

There is no phrase that says “only if they do as God says for them to do” or “live a Godly life“….  No, it’s simple LOVE ONE ANOTHER…  That’s it!   When you protest, are you loving one another, or are you chanting words of hate?  Picket signs that read “God Hates You”, how do you know this?  


Just 1 more

How about one more for you to chew on?  Matthew 7:1-5  As before, I will put it here so you don’t have to look it up.

"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy brother's eye."

Do you have the right to Judge?  Are you without sin?  Have you never done anything wrong in this life?  If you are hurting others, then you are committing a sin.  


Hatred Plain and simple

Just because law allows us Freedom of Speech does not mean we should use that right to hurt or condemn another human being. These Soldiers that you are protesting, what did they do? They got a job, took an oath to protect your rights, upheld their end of the bargain, lost their life. What did you get out of it? The right to protest at their funeral for something that has no bearing on the way they lived their life.

You are just protesting to get your name in the papers. You want or need your 15 minutes of fame. You want publicity? Go on a talk show. Write a book. But for God’s sake, stop hurting those who did nothing to deserve your hatred. This is hatred, plain and simple. Hatred of a way of life that is different than yours. Try living, just for a moment within those shoes of the ones you hate.

Hatred disguised as Freedom of Speech.  That’s all that it is.   You will have God to answer to when your time comes.  For your sake I pray that he is merciful.  You say “The Wrath of God is coming”, in this you might be true, did he personally appoint you to save our souls?   That is entirely up to us to save our own souls. 



Maybe you belong to one of these?

Maybe the good Reverend Jim Jones has some kool-aid left?  Maybe David Koresh wants your young women so he can impregnate them with his seed.  Did you miss your trip on Haley’s Comet?  I’m sure Satan has a room at the Inn, you can spout your hatred there.


Take alook at this link/video

Something is being done now!  Veterans are standing together to ensure that the funerals are not disturbed by these so called Relious fanatics.

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LillyGrillzit 5 years ago from The River Valley, Arkansas

Heck Yeah! Thank you for publishing this Hub. You are speaking for they who are already beaten down so far, they are at a loss for words when attacked by these protesters' words. Mercy!


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

I only hope that my words reach those that need to be reached before one more person is hurt by them. But I know they are so self absorbed that even if it were in print and fed to them from gold table service, it would still be ignored. The self righteous have a hard time swallowing crow.

Thank you for stopping by and commenting!


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barbergirl28 5 years ago from Hemet, Ca

Awesome words... I don't condone people if they don't believe in the war... but for crying out loud.... leave the soldiers alone. There death is for you and they deserve the utmost respect!

Thanks for saying what so many people won't come out and say!


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

I believe that we all have the same God given rights, to believe as we wish. I don't believe that someone who disagrees with our beliefs has the right to harm us either physically or emotionally.

Our Soldiers have protected us with their lives, for that we owe them the greatest debt that cannot be repaid. The best we can give them is our gratitude, and a peaceful place to rest. It angers me that these people have decided to tell us what they think is right, at the worst possible time, in the life of the families of these Soldiers.

I had to speak my peace. You are most welcome, I was glad to share!


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Unfortunately, even jerks like these have freedom of speech.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

Yes this is true, but sometimes those jerks need to use better judgment. I feel fortunate that I live in a Country where my voice can be heard and I'm not killed or prosecuted because of it.

I cannot be angry at the Courts because of their decision. If they changed it for one group then they'd have to change it for all groups. Good or Bad.

Thanks for stopping by!


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mslizzee 5 years ago from Buncombe County, NC

On my way home from work yesterday I heard MattMccann onthis subject. According to him these people go all around the country doing this. They hurt and provoke people to the extent that they get some sort of reaction, then they sue them for standing in the way of their free speech. Apparently they are making tons of money with the law suits while trampling all over the souls of people in mourning. It is absolutely disgusting.

You know what they say, "follow the money."


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SeptemberGray 5 years ago from Corpus Christi, TX

I am so glad to have the opportunity to comment on this post. I would like to say that I am a Christian and I agree with you 100%. It disturbs me that people use the bible as an excuse to hate. It gives the rest of us a bad name. The bible is very clear that we shouldn't hate or judge. In fact, the bible is based on free will. I have done many things wrong and I only want God judging me, so I don't judge others. I live in a part of the country where it seems time stands still. Many people hate each other here based on race or sexual orientation. It took a year for me to find a job as a machinist. Most of the employers thought I was inquiring for my husband and openly laughed when they found out I wanted the job for myself. Were I a gay woman, I'd still be looking.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

@ mslizzee - The sad part of it is, there are young people out there who hear this and they can go one of two ways, either follow what is being said or turn away from God altogether. I have heard what they are saying, they do their best to justify the cruelty "It being for our own good". You are correct, it is just for the money. I truly do not believe that they have our best interests at heart. If they did, they would choose another place rather than a funeral to vent their rage and hatred.

@ SeptemeberGray - I too am far from perfect, as are most people in this world. If we all stood in Judgment of one another there would be no one left. I leave my soul open for God's Judgment and pray that he is merciful, if he is not then I deserve whatever I receive, with the hope he lets me argue my case!! I've done my best and continue to try to do better.

As far as living in a place where time stands still, it can be a blessing in some cases (for small children and no drugs) but difficult in others. Some folks are less than understanding when it comes to differences. Because I am a fairly outspoken female, there are places that I would not be welcome as well. Yes, I have come across those people! LOL

Thank you both for stopping by and taking the time to comment!


Fay Paxton 5 years ago

Sadly, I was not at all surprised by the Supreme Court decision. One has to wonder at what point is one persons right to exercise his freedom an infringement on the freedom of someone else. Good hub.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

It had to be this way, there is no other way. Freedom of speech had to be upheld, for this I am grateful.

Now if there were laws about Common Sense I could see where they would fail. Just because we have the freedom to speak out, does not mean we should always use it. They are not using the common sense that God gave a goat.

Maybe that is why we have the Laws that we do, for instance if someone is pushed beyond the normal endurance of sanity, then they can use that as their defense... This might qualify as pushing someone.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!


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Angie Jardine 5 years ago from Cornwall, land of the eternally youthful mind ...

Well put, Sweetsusieg! There is nothing like a lack of common sense in a court ruling to make me mad. Freedom of Speech is all very well ... we have tons of it over this side of the pond ... but court rulings allowing freedom of speech on inflammatory speeches of judgmental hatred that could lead to violence are ludicrous. That's not allowing freedom of speech, that is upholding the right to incite hatred. Where is the proviso in this? Where is the reining in of these nutjobs?

Angie


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

When it comes to freedom of speech they can't pick and choose what gets to be said or heard. For this I have to agree with them. But when bad things happen, which they undoubtedly they will, then there is going to be a big brouhaha. Someone will snap, go postal or what ever terminology is used.

What can be done? I'm afraid nothing from the view of our Courts. Those making the protests need to use better judgment, find another outlet for their rage.

If they think that homosexuality is a new thing then they need to think again. It's been around for eons, just look at the Philosophers of olden times! They believed that 'only men' knew how to love. Women were used as vessels for child birth. The older men would have young boy lovers and when the boys reached a marriageable age, were sent back to marry and live in society, raising babies. How sick is that?

History has a tendency to repeat itself, maybe not in technology, but in the behaviors of people. All we need to do is look back and see this hate group is very similar in their beliefs to those who were present at the Salem Witch trials.... Before that, the dungeons and torture chambers, stretching racks all in the belief that their way was right. Lucky for us these days we have laws preventing such behaviors here in the US!!


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

We can legislate till we're blue in the face, susie, but you can't make laws to prevent bias and hatred. You are right on target when you write about those who use Freedom of Speech to cover their spewing of hatred. They are misguided foolish people with little to none of common sense.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

Absolutely! According to these people they are protesting on things that are up for debate. Ok, go debate it elsewhere... I just think the common sense is being lost on the 'free to do as I please' train.

There is money to be made on the back of those who have lost loved ones and until we find a way to stop the frivolous law suits it will only continue.

To these people I say "Drink your Kool-ain and be quiet"...


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Chatkath 5 years ago from California

Thank you for speaking your mind and the truth. Standing up for what's right is never easy but it feels great!

Cheers !!


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

I'm getting better these days about putting my feelings into Hubs rather than stomp around the house just ranting.. That was something I've done for years when I see something unjust (in my eyes) happening.

Thanks for listening!


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Mr. Smith 5 years ago from California

Great topic and hub, Susie. What so many of us miss is that the "Bible"... is just that. It is "The Bible". It isn't his bible, or her bible... It isn't my bible or their bible. It is what it is... whether any individual or group believes it or not. The writers of the book, who claimed to be inspired, call it "The Word of God". It is simply "The Bible". Too many people 'infringe on the copyright'. I'm guilty of that myself. These people did the same. The "inspired word" states clearly what God loves and what can never exist in the same space with God. God loves people. "The Bible" says so over and over.

However, this perfect God cannot love every action or thought that our free-will mind can conjure up. Some of those are the things that God hates (and must hate). Very early in the book the plan for offering people a way of separating themselves from their free-will screw-ups (so they can co-exist with God) is unveiled, and continues through the book.

That plan doesn't include what these goofs did. They have "their bible". They claimed The Bible (as many of us do) to be theirs, and God to be speaking their words. Copyright infringement I think. Do the writers have a case here?


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

I do not claim to be a scholar on the Bible that is for certain, in fact when my Uncle a Baptist Minister thought about berating me for my lack of knowledge, I had one thing to fall back on. He said I was like a little child, I said 'suffer the little children to come unto me'. I had wanted to stay young in the eyes of God. To a certain degree I still am.

Copyright infringement? Well there are so many Authors of the Bible who would get first crack at it?

When speaking with my husband on the Bible (he though his faith is being tested) is fairly knowledgeable and attempts to instruct me to the best of his abilities, he says that the individual person has a relationship with God, and that relationship should be kept private. The Bible should be interpreted to each one person as they see it.

He also believes (to a degree) that the Bible was written by a bunch of old men to prevent anarchy! (Like I said his faith is being tested)

I don't imagine that God loves everything we do, but I don't think he 'hates' us in the way these people describe. I think things were taken too literally from the First testament, that is why we were sent Jesus to explain it all. Maybe the translation confused it for some.

Many years ago when a young friend was frightened by the book of Revelations (her church was claiming the End of Man/World) I called a Minister for her. He said "The Bible is a Book, written by men, it is to be used as a guide, not taken literally". Since she was 17 and very impressionable I felt that this might help her. It has been 29 years and we are still here.

Oh geez, I have apparently written an addition to this Hub!! LOL, Thanks so much for stopping by and adding to it!


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Dave Mathews 5 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

Way to go susie! These soldiers who lay down their lives deserve the opportunity, the right to be buried with love and dignity, and not have some big mouth speaking against their sacrifice.

These idiots may have the right to say what the want, but it is soldiers, like the people they are protesting or speaking against who fought and died to provide and protect their right to speak freely. They need to show respect for the fallen.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

Thanks Dave! It appalls me to hear some of the things they are saying in their protests. "Thank God for dead Soldiers" ??? What kind of maniac says things like that? Maybe we should have a sign that says "Pray for idiots to die"??? Now I don't wish death on anyone, but sheesh... How hurtful can one get?


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Dave Mathews 5 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

Susie: That sort of sign you suggest is not good More better "Lord we pray that you work your will to help these people better understand the error of their ways and bring a sense of respect into their lives, rather than distain. AMEN!


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

LOL Dave, nah... I really don't want a sign like that. It just sort of popped into my head. We would be no better than them if we protested or made up signs.


Nolan Edward 5 years ago

I myself am an atheist, in the sense that I don't believe there is a God but won't say for certain that there is not... perhaps that makes me agnostic in some form? Anyways... With that said I do agree with you 100%. People seem to think that if they believe, it's enough & that they're somehow immune to their own sins. This of course for those of us with a higher IQ than a rock, know this not to be the case. Passing judgment, as you said, is a sin, not only in the sense that you are committing the sin, but also in that you are playing God & making yourself the authority over all, which would be making yourself an idol in a sense. Right?

The very idea that people can even think they comprehend what God wants is a joke in itself. We merely interpret something that we don't have a context for anymore because it was 2000 years ago. Not only that but its a well known fact that the bible has been modified numerous times over those 2000 years, so the book that we have now is but a outline of what there once was. The church took things out, kings and queens took things out... which means they probably added things as well. If it was the word of God, it is that no longer but rather 'The word of man being passed off as the word of God.'

Sorry for ranting, but organized religion irritates me a lot. It's just this belief that they have some kind of moral superiority to everyone else. And then those very same people do things like this and have the nerve to preach to us about right and wrong? Beyond irrational. These soldiers were fathers, mothers, brothers & sisters of people... that's where the line should stop. Race, color, religion should not play any role in the morning of their death. We all live and die the same. Under the same sun, on the same planet with the same laws governing us whether that be by God's design or just a universal unbelievable outcome of chance. I hope there is a God but I can't believe something that I just don't. I mean no offense to anyone who is religious because like my mother an her parents and friends of mine, there are many good people who are, but if this world is ever going to be balanced and peaceful, religion, organized theological religion has got to go. The exploitations, arrogance, exclusivity & intolerance that come from it are just too much for us to handle much longer...


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

Yes, I believe that makes you Agnostic. One of my very good friends is Agnostic, she too is a good person. Her and my beliefs differ but we rarely discuss these things, we have come to an understanding, I won't cram my beliefs down her throat and she agrees to the same.

I have to agree with you 100% as well! I love the way you put the spin on the idol!! Perfect! If you believe that you are better than someone else because of your beliefs, does that not make you think of yourself as 'God Like'? According to the 10 Commandments that is the 1st rule.

I try to live my life to the best of my abilities, admit my short comings (yes, sometimes in writing!) and attempt to make myself a better person once those short comings are recognized. I refuse to even attempt to know what God is thinking or wants from us.

I feel that if a young person were to view what is going on, and they have been raised in a fairly loving and Godly home, they might take what is going on and say "If this is what God is all about, I don't want any part of it!" Personally, I don't attend a Church because of the behaviors of the people in the congregation.

I had attended a Church within a short time (a matter of a week) there were arguments regarding the placement of the American Flag. If there is that much tension over something that we see everyday and it is a 'given' in our Country, then what other small minded problems will there be? This wasn't the first Church I attended, but it will probably be the last.

There are so many who do bad things in the name of God. One of my favorite quotes of all time is from the movie Brahm Stoker's Dracula by Anthony Hopkins "We have all become God's madmen" I cannot believe that this is the desire of our Creator. Somehow or another I think we have got it wrong.

For my sanity I have to believe there is something more. That this can't be it. Particularly with the things that have happened in my life.

Thank you SO MUCH for stopping by!! I Love that I finally wrote a Hub that is bringing serious discussion!


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prasetio30 5 years ago from malang-indonesia

Thanks for writing this. I am glad to know this from you and really know about what happen outside. I agree with you that we have a freedom to speech. No one can't stop this, even the government. But it must be under control. Well done, my friend. I give my vote to you. Have a nice weekend!

Prasetio


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

I think that when we exercise our freedom of speech then we should also exercise good judgment. These people are not doing that. They're being mean and hateful. There is no other way to put it.

I have and have had in the past some very good friends who were homosexual. They suffered greatly in the inner turmoil that happens as well as with societies judgment along with personal judgment against them. They have not lived an easy life. For them my heart breaks, life shouldn't be so hard. And it wouldn't be if people would just let others live their own life.

Thank you for stopping by and commenting! It was great to hear from you!


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Jed Fisher 5 years ago from Oklahoma

The way to deal with protestors, to shut them up, is tell the cops, one of the protestors said the "N" word. How's that for freedom of speech?


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

As far as i know Jed, there is no law against saying the 'N' word, even during protests. It's still freedom of speech. Think of all the KKK speeches you've heard about. They do it legally, get their permits and they too say things that are so wrong, it makes me want to vomit.

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oscarwms 5 years ago from PA

You hypocrite you, You say just because it is legal does not make it right. Then you turn around and say you don't see any law against saying the "N" word. Just because there is no law, does that make it right? You quote scripture to justify what you want and slam dunk others for speaking out. You even have the nerve to consign some one to hell. You don't even have a heaven or hell to put some one in. Watch out, you just might be making your bed there yourself. I don't even care if you post this comment or not.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

Well, I think you might just have to go back and re-read a few things. I never said it was right to use the 'N' word, I said it wasn't illegal to use it. Did you read the part "They do it legally, get their permits and they too say things that are so wrong, it makes me want to vomit'?

I do NOT condone ANYONE who calls ANYONE names... Now you have called me a Hypocrite, which I feel is unjust as well. I have not said anything to hurt anyone, yet you are coming here to yell at me because you failed to read everything.

How did I consign someone to hell? I said "I believe that you are the proverbial snow ball headed for hell". I did not say I was putting them there. Who am I? Just a person who has the right to believe what I will, just as you do.

As far as posting your comment, why wouldn't I? You have a right to your opinion, just as I have.

Thanks for stopping by and giving your opinion.


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Mimi721wis 5 years ago

Just happened to hub on this wonderful article. It amazes me when people commit acts of hatred and try to put God in it. What these mean people are doing when they show up a funerals with signs and heckling is very disrespectful to the families and the fallen soldier.


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

It breaks my heart that the families of the fallen ones have to go through this, when they are just trying to get from one day to the next.

Thanks for stopping by!


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Williamjordan 5 years ago from Houston TX

I have some radical belief’s myself but I have learned that they only apply to me AA gave me back my relationship with God and taught me you were entitled to yours yes I share mine own hub pages and whole it to be true but will never demand that you follow it. Just as the sister has said that's not the love of God. Second I am a Veteran and all Veterans deserve to be honored at their funerals. Thanks for your Hub you are correct this is not freedom of speech


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Sweetsusieg 5 years ago from Michigan Author

We all have the right to believe how we will, it's when our beliefs are forced down the throats of others and innocent people are hurt, that I have a problem. Our Veterans and current service men and women get all the honors I can give! They have given and continue to give me the freedom to write and believe as I will.

Thank you for stopping by.


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aviannovice 4 years ago from Stillwater, OK

Voted awesome and following you. Sadly, since the dawn of time, it has always been someONE or someTHING that is defiled. I have a piece called "An Appeal for World Peace" that you might like.


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Sweetsusieg 4 years ago from Michigan Author

Thank you!! I will have to check that out!


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