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It's been a while since The Frog hit the keyboard in the political arena. I've been watching events, reading many things as is my custom, dealing with life as it has been dealt to me but I do have a tendency to attempt to think outside the box. I'm accused of being a Republican, which I'm not because what I have evolved into over time is a concerned American. As I grow older I seem to become more concerned.

I often wonder what the "average" American is thinking or maybe they aren't. It's a head scratcher to me that anyone can get caught in the trap of thinking that either the Democrats, or the Republicans, have all the answers to the problems we face. Those are the very same people who have gotten us into this mess in the first place. They just trade places of power over the decades but the tune never really changes. It's called politics and usually it has an unpleasant aroma when you lift the lid and take a good whiff. Somewhere along the line "We, the People..." have been turned into "They, Themselves..." by the very people who blindly go to the polls, look for that (D) or (R) and continue to send the same tired faces and ideas to do our bidding, which never seems to happen in too many cases. Then we forget about it until the next time. That's a bit of insanity.

This is what I ask you to consider in this Hub and I believe you better start paying attention, if not for your sake then for the sake of your own children and their children and so forth and so on. I reckon if you're one of those "what's in it for me?" people then this might breeze right by you. Or there's the "let someone else worry about it" types that are so self-centered that it's all about them. You know the type - one oar in the water at all times. This is what worries me - the national debt. The answer isn't necessarily to raise more revenue by taxing anyone in any income category either. There just isn't enough available money to make a dent in what the clowns that we have sent to Washington have brought down on our heads.

So grab that calculator and lets do some numbers crunching just for S&Gs. In case you haven't noticed the national debt clock went sailing past $15 trillion yesterday. I happened to be watching when it happened. Gee whiz, that's only a number, right? So now that you have your calculator in your paw the next thing you might need is your checkbook. Tell your kids, your grand kids, and their yet born kids to fetch theirs too,. What exactly does that number mean?

First, that number is historical as Obama likes to spout off about. History we can do without but it's on the books now. The guy is making history alright and wants to continue to spend money like a drunken sailor on shore leave on the American tax payer's dime. It is estimated that in 2010 there were 93,641,000 (+ of - depending on who you believe) private sector workers in this country. You calculating yet? Then factor in the 18,073,000 full time, and often over paid, federal, state and local government employees. Using a figure of $15.0336 trillion as the approximate federal debt, keeping in the mind that was yesterday's figure, that amounts to each of those private sector people having a $160,454 balance due. Yes, I just may mean you.

What? You can't afford to stroke that check, but you expect someone else to take up the slack for you? Why should they? All this share and share alike just a one way street? In whose world? Yours? You want the government and someone else to fluff your pillow and tuck you in bed at night? Better hire a Nanny and stop thinking of the federal government as being the answer to your prayers my friends. With friends like that governing our nation who needs friends. We ran out of checks in the checkbook a long time ago but maybe someone forgot to tell them. I seriously doubt it though. We've become slaves to their excesses and "subjects" who don't seem to either be paying attention or maybe it is just that we don't care about the future since it is our heirs we are leaving in the lurch.

The census figures for 2010 have the number of families in the nation at 76,089,045. That's pale to 15 trillion huh? Yes it is until you grab that trusty calculator anew and get to crunching. That amounts to $197,579 per American family. If you're single and working, doesn't that just give you a warm and fuzzy? You only owe a mere 164,454 clams, fetid clams at that. Kind of like the tingle Chrissy Matthews gets up his leg when he thinks about Obama.

Then you watch this badassed idea Super Committee doing the political hokey pokey trying to make us believe they are serious about lowering the national debt by cutting a paltry $1.2 trillion over a ten year period. If you're buying into that then have I got something to sell you. This fiasco is the worst sales job I've seen in my life. While they're having us look over here what they aren't saying is that during that same ten year period the national debt is projected to soar to 23-25 trillion if the brakes aren't severely applied.

So if you think "they" have all the answers then grab your checkbook and start stroking. A den of thieves will always be just that - regardless of what political party they profess to be. Try to start thinking outside the box, especially when you walk into that voting booth.

Maybe that's okay with you but the cartoon below will help to illustrate my point. Have a great day and a Happy Thanksgiving..

As Always,

The Frog

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Comments 25 comments

femmeflashpoint 5 years ago

FP - happy to see you spending some time at the keyboard and lending some thoughts on the Hub again!

We've missed you!

Thankfully, someone much better than me at mathmatics is keeping an eye on things.

I'd rather be labeled a concerned conservative Patriot than a Republican or Dem any day.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

femmeflashpoint - I'm starting to think like a Texan once again :) Math never was my strong suit but his is getting a bit out of hand and counting.


Lynn S. Murphy 5 years ago

Glad to see you and your perspective back!!! Right to the point and the 'toon says it all.


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

What part of Texas are you in Jim. Guess you know I'm an old Texan. Born in Wichita Falls, lived in Dallsa/ Ft. Worth, Houston, San Antonio, and Corpus Christi. I still have a home up for sale in Pasadena.

Yes, the numbbers are staggering. Waking up the average American becomes the challenge as the numbers are so large, they become more imaginary than real.

We have got the legal things worked out at the Project, and the future looks very bright for waking America up giving them control. 2012 will be our year.

Good to hear from you again Jim. Keep everyone informed as to how it's going, and good luck.

jim


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drbj 5 years ago from south Florida

Frog - You nailed many of our problems with this one. Would you consider being drafted for political office of some sort? Nah, that won't work. You still have too many functioning brain cells to accept such an offer.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jim - I'm residing in Arlington. Some stadium old Jerry built. Now if the Cowboys could play football...


halfcord 5 years ago

Thanx but that was no help Froggy! Just because the Dems spend faster and more than the Reps doesn't mean "We the People" can't slow 'em all down. We did good last November and all we gotta do is remember that NEXT November. The Reps claim they have some solutions so let's give 'em a shot. At least they TALK about a balanced budget, the Reid's and Pelosi's act like it was poison to even speak the words. Of course, they knew that their numbers would scare the populace into hiding so mum WAS the word.

Anyhow, thanks for the look outside the box!


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TheManWithNoPants 5 years ago from Tucson, Az.

I have a 1/2 brother in Arlington and I get over to Azle fairly often to work on my CD. I have a long time friend from high school who has a studio there. Next trip, I'll hit you up, and we can do some lunch or something. It's always fun to hook up with old hub buds.

jim


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

drbj - Cleanliness is next to Godliness but the thought of taking a shower every hour to keep the stench off of me doesn't have much appeal.

halfcord - What needs to be done is some serious house cleaning of the professional deadwood that seem to warm those seat cushions.

The Frog


Halfcord 5 years ago

Peter Schweizer "Throw Them All Out" seems to have the right idea. Now all we gotta do is get that information on billboards across the nation!

http://mojoe.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/17/885429...


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Frog - you got me at - "people have accused me of being a Republican!" and I love the term "concerned American". That's me too right now, I don't identify with either group completely nor against one side all the way.....and you're right and so is the cartoon for Gods sakes! Grandma ain't no dummy!


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Naomi's Banner 5 years ago from United States

It seems to me the best way to cure an illness is to flush it out. We are quite top heavy in our government right now so lets just drop em in the toilet and flush em out!! We need to step up to the plate and demand no more lifetime pentions, no more BIG government, etc. etc. We can talk about it all we want but until we ALL stand together and say enough is enough it will continue on and on and on... Thanks for reminding us of the big weight on our shoulder. America realy .... wake up! Great Hub My froggie friend.


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marcoujor 5 years ago from Jeffersonville PA

Even though nothing is better or different, it feels better when you're here to spell it out.

UP & UABI- thankful for you at this time of year, mar.


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junko 5 years ago

junko is throwing you a friendly wave, Frog Prince. I have been looking for you with a flashlight day and night. I thought you were living on the east coast, and was affected by that storm. I am glad you are alright and has mellowed out and reduced the stress of partisan politics. Your post is on point.


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TheGroundsquirrel 5 years ago

Since I am too pooped to pontificate, I'll just jot down a few quotes from my collection.

Whoever robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul’s support!-George Bernard Shaw

"Be very careful, indeed, with your call for the redistribution of wealth, and fairness. It always ends up with a mountain of skulls.":Michael Savage

John Elliott Young: Common sense is not exclusive, which is odd because it's so elusive.

Nathan Rothschild observed in 1838, when the issuance and control of a nation's money are in private hands, the laws and the people who make them become irrelevant.

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” - William Pitt, English Prime Minister - Nov. 18, 1783

Finally, to satisfy those who know me, my favorite exit line ... !!!Pirate's rules, they can't catch us all!!!

Somehow, I have this strange feeling that Guy Fawkes is going to be very very happy, very very soon.


Stu 5 years ago

Hey Frog,

Hope all is going well with you.

It truly is scary, but with gargantuan effort, the problem can be solved, if we act NOW. There are three big nuts Congress and the people have to swallow:

(1) We must first stanch the bleeding. Cutting the current account deficit to zero is job #1. Chopping a bit over 40% of the federal operating/discretionary budget would do it. If we simply defunded all federal agencies in violation of enumerated powers, we might even exceed the goal. All we really need to keep is the president and vice president, Congress, the federal court system, the military, the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service, the Postal system, the Federal Reserve, a Maritime Authority, the IRS, an Immigration Dept., a Patent Office, and that's about it. All the regulatory type agencies are flagrant abuses of the Tenth Amendment and can be eliminated (these are just powers stolen from the states and the people).

(2) We will need more revenue to pay off the existing debt, plus possibly higher coupons if interest rates go up. Axing the FIT and FICA, and replacing both with a 15-20% VAT or end use sales tax (the tax rate varying with interest rates on rollovers) would let us pay off all principal, plus interest, on the investor owned national debt over about three decades, and would be a big boost to business investment and job creation (no more corporate FIT). The sales tax rate in fact would likely be lower as GNP growth from higher job levels would bolster the tax base.

(3) Then we have that pesky $90 trillion of "off balance sheet" debt, money Uncle Sam owes itself to pay off its own agency liabilities. SS, Medicare, and Medicaid must be phased out, or at least drastically reformed, so a huge portion of their $60 trillion of liabilities disappear, and we can rip up the treasuries backing the erased liabilities. Then we have another $30 trillion connected to full faith and credit guarantees for government operating agencies, bailout promises, and federal pensions. All of this is going to have to be severely haircut by Congressional action.

The basic "playbook" is this:

(A) Pay off the official (investor owned) debt by roughly cutting federal payroll in half, and broadening the tax base by about 50% (tax end use consumption at a modest rate instead of income at a high rate, adding $500 billion to $1 trillion of extra annual federal revenue, the amount varying over time with interest rate trends).

(B) "Default" on the off balance sheet debt by legislating the liabilities they are backing away. This is not a true technical default, as these special issue treasuries are not investor owned. They are simply IOU's to back Congressional promises, which Congress can legally un-promise.

Stu


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WillStarr 5 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

Welcome back, FP! Good to see you!


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Frogie,

YOU ARE WRONG- the politician DO have ALL THE ANSWERS unfortunately

THEY HAVENT ASKED THE CORRECT QUESTION YET!!!

they are like being asked what do you want for lunch----and the politicians answer particle physics...

what did your super commitee agree on- we like ham (yes ham -a different type of pork of course).

i would not say this if they some of the R's and all D's are putting not the ox before the cart they are putting the ox on the fire they make from the cart,,,

what can i say its like lords of the flies

TH


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Naomi - "We are quite top heavy" is putting it mildly. Take a read of Stu's comment if you haven't. Washington DC is full of fat that needs a meat axe.

Maria - Thanks.

junko - The Frog waves back. Put away that flashlight. I've been dealing with a few serious issues but I haven't been in a coma. No, I'm now deep in the heart of Texas my friend.

GS - Good to see you old friend. I always enjoy it when you show up. Pirates indeed!

Stu - Somehow I think your comments are making the liberals of the world froth at the mouth. What in the world would we do without a bloated federal government who doesn't want to control every aspect of our life? Much better I'm sure.

Thanks Will. In my readings today I found a bit in inspiration and a lot of ire at what we each owe. And to some that is okay. To me it is outrageous.

Tom - "i would not say this if they some of the R's and all D's are putting not the ox before the cart they are putting the ox on the fire they make from the cart,,," Very astute observation.

The Frog


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Alastar Packer 5 years ago from North Carolina

Calculators and photographs don't lie. Thanks for keeping the bar tab Frog.


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Kathleen Cochran 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Great to hear from you after something of a drought! I know what you mean about being accused of being Republican. I get that but as a Democrat. I tell folks what I am is closer to a liberal cynic! Keep writing.


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The Frog Prince 5 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Alastar - Good to see ya! Stop by the bar and belly up any time and we can always crunch new numbers as the idiots on Capitol Hill fiddle while the nation burns in debt from excessive spending. Just bring your own calculator. Mine is getting a bit squirrely dealing with these huge numbers.

Kathleen - Drought? Bad word here in Texas. LMAO. I'm just a solid fiscal conservative and actually have a few liberal causes I look at from time to time but spending money we don't have isn't on that short list.

The Frog


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Harvey Stelman 5 years ago from Illinois

Froggy, Glad you ae back on your pad. When younger we all think we know everything. As we age we learn what reality is.I'm with you, but don't try to figure what the average American is. H


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Pollyannalana 5 years ago from US

We got Obama at the very worst time, I am astonished daily at all the ones acting as unconcerned as him. They too want to blame someone else although they can clearly see he is doing nothing but enjoying himself. He doesn't seem confident so all I can figure is he is making the most of it...maybe working on a private project. Yes Americans should have put their foot down, but they haven't and they won't. Do I think it is hopeless? Yes. There is no time to do all that needs done. Looking back it almost seems intentional. Now that we realize all that is going on we also can see it has been going on way too long, and none asked our thoughts or permission.


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tom hellert 5 years ago from home

Polly - your foot should not go down it should go up..the politicians certain orafice just below the belt level-in the rear ...that 'll do it for starters...

TH

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