Heroin Overdoses in the U.S. on the Rise From C.I.A. Controlled Drug Trafficking

Poppy Fields

When our Government gets into the illegal narcotics trade, what chance do addicts really have at recovery?
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Afghanistan Poppy Pipeline

As the title to this article suggests, Heroin Overdoses in the U.S. on the Rise From C.I.A. Controlled Drug Trafficking, I will lay the blame for the sharp rise in heroin use and overdoses in the U.S. where the facts have lead me at the doorstep of the C.I.A.s headquarters, in Langley, VA. Because our corporate owned Fake Stream Media refuses to take on the hard stories that shows the duplicity our own U.S. Government has at not only creating drug use in America but actually controlling it through intelligence agencies such as the C.I.A., it is up to the independent investigator to take on the less glamorous stories and reveal the hard facts to the American people.

By now most people in America have recognized that the War in Afghanistan was not just about Osama Bin Laden and the Al Quada controlled terrorism network but also the control of highly valuable resources through oil and natural gas pipelines. However what isn't as well known here in America is that the third leading money making industry in the world behind the oil industry and weapons sales is drug trafficking and the Afghanistan heroin pipeline supplies a whopping 70% of the world's heroin.

Whenever one writes about subjects of a sensitive nature, such as drug use in America, the best way to find the truth is to follow the money. According to a Global Research report, a conservative estimate by the UNODC ( United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime) has the World's narcotic trafficking industry at roughly 400 to 500 Billion dollars a year but because this is almost a completely illegal industry throughout the world, exact numbers cannot be pinned down and more liberal estimates have it at over a trillion dollars.

Because it is an illegal enterprise most of the money must be laundered through what is known as 'offshore' banking systems, that are located in such countries as the Cayman Islands, Switzerland, Luxembourg, the British Channel Islands and over fifty other locations throughout the world. These offshore havens for criminal activity are controlled by the major Western Commercial Banks and because once the money is integrated into the system it can be used legally for any commercial investments, these so-called legal banks are greatly motivated in sustaining the illegal drug trade.

To fully understand what the U.S. War in Afghanistan has contributed to the rise in the global heroin trade, one must recognize that a U.N./Taliban coalition in 2000 had successfully imposed a ban on opium cultivation. This ban reduced the production of opium the latex derived from the poppy plant that is used to produce heroin to only 185 tons.

This was a drop from the previous year of 3,300 tons or 94% reduction rate.

After the US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and the Taliban subsequently lost control of the opium pipeline, the U.S. sponsored puppet regime of President Hamid Karzai managed to raise opium production back to its pre-war state of 3,400 tons. Karzai had been openly acknowledged to be on the C.I.A.s payroll since the early eighties to funnel money and weapons to the Afghanistan resistance fighters that opposed the Russian invasion.

One of the lesser known fall-outs from the Iran-Contra scandals of the Reagan Administration in 1986 was the revelation that to supply the Afghan Mujahideen with weapons to fight the Soviets, the C.I.A. had set up a heroin trafficking operation in the border country of Pakistan.

In the seventies opium production in Afghanistan and Pakistan was only a small local operation and no local production of heroin existed. However in the early 80s, fueled by their successes in Southeast Asia mainly Thailand and Vietnam and backed by U.S. Foreign Policy, the C.I.A., carefully designed a narcotics economy in the Afghanistan/Pakistan region. Local heroin addiction rose from a small population in the thousands in 1979 to 1.2 million by 1985.

According to researcher Alfred McCoy in his book The Politics of Heroin, CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade, he concludes that . . .

“ . . . the Pakistan-Afghanistan borderlands became the world’s top heroin producer, supplying 60 per cent of U.S. demand . . . in the early 80s!"

However what must be understood is that conservative estimates put illegal money laundering from drug trafficking at nearly a Trillion US Dollars a year, a very small fraction of that money ever finds its way directly into the hands of terrorist organizations, let alone the actual poppy farmer. The large majority of drug money comes from the retail distribution and sale of narcotics, not from the growers or traffickers, such as the Taliban but through transportation and distribution. This fact alone is why control of shipping routes and the actual pipeline is so essential for institutions such as the C.I.A. as this is where the real money lies in getting the product to the market.

According to the Voice of America (VOA), “Afghan heroin sells on the international narcotics market for 100 times the price farmers get for their opium right out of the field”.

To put this into layman's terms, in 2003 Afghan farmers produced 3,600 tons of opium, which translates into 360,000 kg of pure heroin. It is estimated by the UNODC that Afghan farmers gross revenue from this production was roughly 1 billion dollars, with the local drug traffickers (which is no longer the Taliban) gaining around 1.3 billion dollars. However this would generate earnings in the global market of nearly 80 billion dollars through distribution and retail sales by organized crime syndicates, intelligence agencies, financial institutions, large shipping conglomerates, transportation companies and refineries.

All of this money eventually finds its way into Western Banks through money laundering, one of the essential mechanisms that keeps this lucrative operation going. The other essential mechanism, that is largely ignored by the general population of the world, is that to keep such a sophisticated network of distribution affective and running smoothly requires protection and this is where the C.I.A. and the Military Industrial Complex comes into the picture.

Poppy Fields

This brilliant flower has lead to untold suffering, addiction and death for thousands of years.
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Heroin

Many Countries are beginning to legalize some use of heroin as a way to reduce overdose deaths.
Many Countries are beginning to legalize some use of heroin as a way to reduce overdose deaths. | Source

A Horse With No Name

The recent deaths of actors of Philip Seymour Hoffman and Cory Monteith over thirty years apart in terms of age shows that the rise in heroin use across America isn't targeting just one age group.

"Heroin doesn't have any sort of geographic or demographic boundaries," said Rusty Payne, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration in Washington. "It touches pretty much every segment of society."

The major factor contributing to the sharp rise in heroin use is that for decades social workers, physicians and pharmaceutical companies through the Health Industry made getting highly addictive opium based narcotics too easy to get. Joseph Califano, president of the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University noted 2002 figures for legal prescriptions of Vicodin, Percocet and Oxycontin to be 153 million; 53 million for tranquilizers such as Xanax or Valium and 23.5 million for stimulants such as Adderal or Ritalin and these are just the legal prescriptions not figures based on the illegal market.

Because of the internet, where one can by narcotics without a prescription, physicians tendency to over prescribe due to pressure from pharmaceutical companies and aggressive marketing strategies and the American people's predilection to take a pill for any kind of ailment be it emotional or physical, prescription drug abuse is rampant in our society.

However because of recent crackdowns and new laws in place for abusers of prescription drugs, the abusers have now turned to more traditional fixes in the form of street heroin. To meet this growing demand by American consumers Mexican drug cartels have increased their heroin production 600% in the last ten years.

The U.S. Justice Department’s drug intelligence arm in 2002 highlighted the potential consequences:

“As initiatives taken to curb the abuse of OxyContin are successfully implemented, abusers of OxyContin … also may begin to use heroin, especially if it is readily available, pure, and relatively inexpensive.”

My next door neighbor for years was provided a prescription for Lortab, through her State social system of more than 150 pills a month. She told me that she would only take one a day and sell the others on the street for as much as ten dollars a pill but openly admitted she was an addict.

I asked what she was going to do if they ever cut her off and she said with an ironic laugh, " I guess I'll just start shooting heroin."

What this shows me is that many States through their own social programs are in fact creating future heroin addicts, that when their prescription meds runout or become to expensive to afford, will simply turn too the streets.

According to U.S. Federal data on drug use between the years 2007 and 2012 heroin use rose 79% and within the same time period the data shows that 81% of first time heroin users were prescription drug abusers. However because heroin overdoses only contribute around 3,000 yearly deaths as opposed to over 15,000 prescription overdoses deaths Justic Department officials reject any direct linkage between the crackdown on prescription drugs to rising heroin use.

What is interesting to note is that between when the War in Afghanistan began in 2001 and 2007 Federal arrest for prescription drug abusers rose 900% according to the National Drug Intelligence Center. It was almost as if the American Government was creating its own market for the recent acquisition of the Afghanistan opium pipeline. Heroin Overdoses in the U.S. on the Rise From C.I.A. Controlled Drug Trafficking is not an idle claim or exaggeration but right to the point.

“It never crossed anyone’s mind that cracking down on Oxy would lead to an increase in heroin,” said one current federal official involved in drug enforcement, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Things that make you go Hmm!

It seems fairly safe to say that one relatively easy shipping route may be from the fields of Afghanistan, through the neighboring heroin production sites located in Pakistan, loaded on a cargo freighter for its journey through the Arabian Sea, a major shipping lane protected by a large US military presence, up the Red Sea to the Suez Canal and into the Mediterranean Sea. From there it would be a pretty much straight shot across the Atlantic to the Gulf of Mexico and the waiting drug cartels.

I find it difficult to believe that a major crackdown on prescription drugs would coincide with the U.S. Governments own acquisition to the lucrative Afghanistan Poppy Pipeline.

Guarding the Opium Fields

Government propaganda would have us believe that guarding the opium fields is in the best interest of peace.
Government propaganda would have us believe that guarding the opium fields is in the best interest of peace. | Source

C.I.A. Drug Trafficking

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Conclusions

One of the reasons that leads this writer to believe that factions within our own Government are in collusion with the illegal narcotics trade, is that the FBI and DEA have assured us that they are able to detect and prohibit any Anthrax (measured in grams) from entering our Country. By using drug sniffing dogs they have been able to prevent this deadly chemical compound from being transported into our Country and yet these same techniques are unable to find the thousands of tons of heroin, cocaine and marijuana routinely shipped into our ports.

A six year old can find and purchase marijuana, cocaine and heroin in any major city in the United States and yet our own law enforcement is unable or unwilling to do the same.

When the rich elite are making billions of tax free dollars off the illegal narcotics trade in this Country, they literally have millions to bribe port officials and DEA agents to look the other way. This doesn't even take into consideration the ability of the C.I.A. to bring in major shipments through clandestine operations, black ops or diplomatic cargo planes.

These same rich elitists also can bribe or invest some of their grossly inflated illegal earnings into Congressmen, Senators and lobbyists to keep this incredibly lucrative enterprise illegal so that they can continue to earn billions of tax free money at the publics expense.

This is one of the main reasons that the War on Drugs has continued without making a dent in the thousands of tons of illegal narcotics entering the Country for more than 40 years. Any War that last that long can no longer be considered cost affective and alternative measures must be implemented.

Just consider how much money is made off the millions of addicted sufferers in this Country from cigarettes, alcohol and pharmaceuticals (legal) to heroin, cocaine and marijuana (illegal) and you will begin to grasp how much money is made from this enterprise that affects all walks of life.

Perhaps the C.I.A.s involvement in the Viet Nam War was truly for noble purposes but the results allowed them to finance their continued Black Operations by becoming major players in the Southeast Asian heroin trafficking operations in the 70s and their success in this illegal business made them the prime Government Agency to set up shop in Afghanistan as well in the 80s, 90s and here at the turn of the century.

Then when you add the Fake Stream Media's willingness to participate in this farce by claiming that it is in the best interest of peace in the region to actually protect the poppy fields and that the Taliban is using this illegal trade to further their terrorist networks, many unsuspecting American citizens buy right into the lie.

So it is no small claim that Heroin Overdoses in the U.S. on the Rise From C.I.A. Controlled Drug Trafficking in Afghanistan is the title to this article as all the evidence leads right to their door step.

Geraldo Dishes the Propaganda

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25 comments

Larry Wall 2 years ago

So, what is your recommendation.

I am opposed to legalizing marijuana, but there are plenty on Hub pages who disagree.

I have taken narcotics--in the hospital after my six surgeries. I am not addicted and do not keep any in the house.

I question the validity of some of your sources.

You are entitled to your conclusions. I just do not agree, but do not have the resources to disprove them. I just do not accept them. This Hub will attract a lot of attention. Hubs and paint the country as a villain always attract readers, most of who will agree with you. That does not mean it is an accurate scientific sampling of the issue.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The facts speak for themselves, you do not have to believe 2+2=4, for it to be true. If you choose to live in a narrow minded paradigm that is certainly your right to do so.

I too have taken pain medication in hospitals, the point is that when you use drugs to achieve a 'high' that is when the mind creates an addiction to that substance, to maintain that feeling.

One must educate themselves on addiction to understand it, it affects all walks of life and does not discriminate, it is a disease of the mind.

The point of the article is that our own Government is in the business of supplying addicting substances such as alcohol, cigarettes and pharmaceuticals . . . heroin is no different but because it is illegal, it is tax free, so they keep it hushed up.

Thank you for the comment.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

Alcohol and cigarettes are supplied by private companies operating with a government license. We tried prohibition once and it did not work, more people were probably injured drinking bootleg liquor than ordinary liquor. I am all for banning cigarettes, but that is a private industry.

I am not aware of the government supplying heroin to the masses. I questioned the sources of your information but defend your right your you to voice your opinion. I am an old newspaper reporter and believe strongly in the freedom of the press. That does not mean I have to believe everything I read.

Thank you.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I used to have the same perspective as well but after researching many topics of a similar nature, the coincidences became too much to continue to view the world through rose colored glasses.

Both alcohol and cigarettes kill more citizens in America than all the heroin overdoses in the entire world annually, both legalized drugs cost the American taxpayer Billions of dollars.

Again because you are not aware our Government through the CIA supplies 60% of America's heroin supply is a testament to your perspective and naivety but by no means makes it less true.

Using your 'old' reporter skills and a little critical thinking would allow you to research and find out for yourself however because most people would rather argue than read and write articles you will invariably deny the facts so that you may continue to live in your outdated, sheltered paradigm.

Have you heard of the term Cognitive Dissonance? Denial is triggered by the fear of having to accept information that is contrary to your world view. It is a way for your mind to protect your ego and allow for ignorance to maintain its firm grip.

Ignorance is truly bliss and at times I often contemplate what my life would be like had I just remained an ignorant sheep but since it would require living in the past and turning a blind eye to reality, it is no longer an option for me.

Best Wishes.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

My friend, you are not aware of "Again because you are not aware our Government through the CIA supplies 60% of America's heroin supply is a testament to your perspective and naivety but by no means makes it less true." You read it and you accept it, but you do not have personal knowledge of it. If you did, you would not be writing about it. A problem with the free press, and I was a newspaper reporter (award winning) for a number of years, some people can get away with making up numbers or manipulating numbers. I believe you found some document like the one above and others and you believe it. That is your right. I do not agree with the article. We share something in common. Neither of us have the proof to back up our views. You have the article above, I can find an article to the contrary or write it myself under a pen name and post it on the web somewhere.

That is where we disagree.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Ah . . . I see the fantasy world you live in is all make believe. I need no proof as I have learned to think with my heart.

I spent the first 27 years of my adult life abusing drugs and alcohol (including heroin), I have spent the last ten years sober . . . so you see grasshopper, I do have the experience.

What document are you referring too, the above article is based on personal knowledge, instinct, critical thinking, open mindedness, research and intuitive reasoning. It is not based on any document or book and was written after a conversation at work inspired me to do so.

Proof is for suckers and cowards, if Columbus and all the other great explorers and creative thinkers had waited for proof, nothing would ever get discovered or revealed.

Do you really think the US Government or any other institution is going to deliver proof to the public concerning their illegal activities, Hello anybody home?

Were you asleep during the Iran-Contra hearings . . . Oliver North . . . what do think that whole thing was about, do you really think we got full disclosure on that whole mess and do you really think it stopped the CIA?

Wake up Dude, it just taught them how not to get caught the next time around. Again I don't need proof to smell a rat, Wow!

Go back to sleep . . . baa, baa!


Larry Wall 2 years ago

While I disagree with you, I thought we were having an intelligent and fairly civil discussion about the government's alleged role in supplying drugs. Your last response gives the impression you fallen off the wagon, but I really do not think that is the case. No I was not asleep during Iran-Contra, or the Watergate Hearings, or the Civil Rights Hear or even the Joe McCarthy's Committee on UnAmerican Activities (I was young then). You did cite a source called Global Research. I congratulate on being sober for ten years, which I guess began 2004 and 27 years on drugs must have started around 1977. I was a newspaper reporter. That year I did an expose that put a crooked police chief in jail. That was the time when all the marijuana was always identified as "high grade Columbian gold."

For the record, there have been a few times I had too much liquor--recognizing that alcohol is a drug, but I never abused any other drug. Never smoked a joint or snorted cocaine. I have lost friends who did.

Finally, you don't need proof to smell a rat. Using your sense of smell, provides you with the proof. However, you do need proof to back up your charges, at least more than your history of personal drug abuse.

It is best that we end this conversation. We are apparently not saying anything that is causing any other comments. So, we just need to agree that we disagree. I have my doubts about what you wrote based on the sources you did name. I think you have a certain prejudice against the government.

I do not share your views. With evidence, my view could possibly be changed. Rhetoric has never impressed me.

Have a good evening.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

I have nothing against our Government I just disagree with certain factions within our Government that continue to illegally start wars, manipulate the economy of third world countries and distribute narcotics (CIA).

1978 would be more accurate, yes I cited Global Research as one source among many for some stats and I don't need to back up my charges, because this is not a court of law but merely speculation and research.

If you choose not to believe any of it that is your right however naïve I believe it to be.

Just answer how the DEA can keep Anthrax (measured in grams) out of the country and yet can't find thousands of tons of marijuana and cocaine shipped in on a regular bases?

If you can explain that concept in way that makes sense, then your argument has merit, otherwise you are just whistling dixie and living in a fantasy world . . . which of course is your right to do so.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

Profit

The government had a hard time keeping track of imported liquor during prohibition. If cigarettes were outlawed it would be the same.

A small amount of anthrax goes a long way and since its effects are not immediate, it is not always detectible.

There is money in drugs--we agree on that. I think you contend that the government is just letting it happen on purpose while I contend that it is a criminal activity and that the government is not encouraging or allowing the import. Does some get buy--absolutely. When there is a demand, the supply will get through. I reject the conspiracy theories, and the supposition and the speculation. Are some government employees involved--I am sure they are. Is it part of their job description, I don't think so.

I respect your right to your views and your opinions. I will accept that the possibility exists that I am wrong.

I hope we can end this with you also agreeing to respect my views and opinions and the possibility could exist that you are wrong.

Neither of us can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that our different positions on this issue are correct. You presented though thoughts on an important issue. I presented by views. It is apparent we are not going to sway each other to a different position.

Thus we will just have to see what unfolds in the future.

I will not respond anymore. I will not check this hub anymore. We both have our points and counterpoints. If you insist on having the last word, I want respond. If any libelous or in appropriate remarks are made, and not have thus far, I will report them.

Good day


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

On my Hubs I always get the last word, as I can always delete your last comment, period, end of story.

This ain't prohibition, we are living in the 21st Century, well at least some of us are. The 'I think' part of your statement is clearly where you are running into trouble.

No, I do NOT contend our Government is letting it happen, they're actively participating in illegal narcotic trafficking, as the CIA is a branch of our Government this would make them guilty. Go back and read the article, I'm clearly stating they're fully aware of what they are doing.

A crackdown on pharmaceutical abuse and arrest leads to the (demand) and coincides with the CIAs heroin trafficking creates (supply) the need for heroin, hence a rise in heroin use and overdoses, that is the point of the article.

I find it difficult to understand why I have to spell this out for you. Certain factions in our Government are corrupt and are really running the show in D.C., this clearly is not getting through to you.

Do I respect your opinion? Absolutely Not, I think it is naïve and ignorant but I do respect your right to believe what ever you wish.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

You are wrong on more counts than I care to go into again and again. Granted no one else will see this until I write my own hub about the issue of paranoia and quote from some other hubs. I do not know when I will do that, but it will be done carefully to avoid any chance of liable, of course, it is hard to libel a person who only uses a pen name. Be sure and delete.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

Already deleted, good for you.

Just read the summary of your Hurricane Sandy world. You really want to talk about who has a grasp on reality. I lived through Katrina and Rita (Louisiana resident) believe me man cannot direct the path of a hurricane or the force of it to affect an election. I know you will delete this, but you need to face reality. That hub might also justify a response through a separate hub.


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lions44 2 years ago from Auburn, WA

Can you point to one oil and gas pipeline that the U.S. Government has constructed in Afghanistan (or any US energy company for that matter)? Where are these pipelines that we control? Why bother when domestic production is booming? You sound like Gore Vidal. And we are pulling out of Afghanistan, then who is going to run the narcotics trade? I think this is more of a case of the U.S. not being able to control the situation than an actual conspiracy.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Larry, Did you know (feel free to look this up) a hurricane bigger than Katrina sat 70 miles off the coast of Long Island on the morning of September 11, 2001, it was named Hurricane Erin. Not one television news station in the entire United States reported this Hurricane.

After the buildings collapsed it moved harmlessly out to sea, never to be heard from again.

In 1972 China, the U.S., Russia, the U.K., France and Germany all signed a treaty limiting the use of weather weapons in times of War and yet you say that humanity can't control the weather . . . so why the treaty? (feel free to look that up as well).

It has long been reported that HAARP is capable of controlling the path of hurricanes and cyclones by charging particles in the atmosphere that attract the charged particles of the hurricane's or cyclone's, again because you have no knowledge of this you assume this can't be true.

The Hutchinson Effect occurs naturally in Hurricanes, Tornadoes and Cyclones. What is the Hutchinson Effect, you ask? A scientist named Hutchinson recreated what happens in Hurricanes naturally, which is breaks up matter at the subatomic level. Exactly what happen to the steel in both twin towers . . . but wait, mankind can't control weather my bad just another coincidence.

Lions44, yes I can point to one gas pipeline in Afghanistan (actually many), is your Google broken or just your ability to think. Here is a link for you that more than adequately answers your somewhat naïve question.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/020318chicagotribune

U.S. oil company Unocal Corp. had been negotiating with the Taliban since 1995 to build "oil and gas pipelines from Turkmenistan, through Afghanistan and into Pakistani ports on the Arabian sea.

The U.S. engineered the rise to power of two former Unocal employees: Hamid Karzai, the new interim president of Afghanistan, and Zalmay Khalizad, the Bush administration's Afghanistan envoy.

In 1998, Dick Cheney, US vice-president but then chief executive of a major oil services company, remarked: "I cannot think of a time when we have had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian." But the oil and gas there is worthless until it is moved. The only route which makes both political and economic sense is through Afghanistan.

It is called the Trans-Afghanistan Oil pipeline and every major American military base in Afghanistan is located on it, coincidence, hardly. We are supposed to pull out but still have over a million troops stationed there.


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lions44 2 years ago from Auburn, WA

First of all, Blue, no need to make this nasty, my thinking is fine.

1. The pipeline is not under construction yet as far as I can tell. The route has even been confirmed (for obvious reasons). Right of ways and fees, etc. must be worked out, I'm assuming. If you have a satellite photo of the pipeline and a US base, please post it. Love to see it. Anyway, the pipeline would be a good thing for the former Soviet Republics near the Caspian. I say bravo.

2. Unocal pulled out of the project. Now it may have a subsidiary or former partner still in existence, and that may be CentGas. In fact, I don't think they exist as a separate company anymore (I'll check on that). Thought Chevron or someone else merged with them. Also, it had been well known for a long time that Unocal execs did provide intelligence to American officials for years, which I don't see a problem with at all. They should be doing that.

3. Weather weapons? Come on, man. I bet if I check the weather channel archives from 2001, they reported on Hurricane Erin. Get back to you on that.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The proposed oil pipeline is in its planning stage however their exist today one major natural gas pipeline in both Pakistan and Afghanistan.

As far as questioning your thinking that wasn't even close to being nasty but since I never said the US had constructed pipelines nor mentioned that they intended to do so in the article, which by the way is about the heroin pipeline and narcotics trafficking, not about why America went to War with Afghanistan, then I feel justified in questioning why you would even mention it.

Since when did puling out of a country lead to not controlling it, get real. The CIA had already set up major heroin operations in neighboring Pakistan long before we ever went to War with Afghanistan and they control the trafficking of heroin and other narcotics all over the world with many countries we have never gone to War with.

The narcotics used in the Iran-Contra Affair were not from countries we were at War with, so your premise is weak as is your thinking. Unocal didn't pull out they got out maneuvered by Bridas pure and simple and because they got juked and had lost their influence in the region, the Military Industrial Complex had to step in and save the day.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

The reason I question your critical thinking skills is you keep asking me to provide links to this or that, the information is out there go find it, is your Google broken?

Why should I do your thinking for you? Are you so conditioned by the boob tube that you have to have someone tell you what to think?

I say NO, do your own thinking, find your own proof, use the gift of intelligence God gave you and quite trying to make an argument out of something that has absolutely nothing to do with the article.

Fact: Heroin overdoses are on the rise.

Fact: CIA has been involved in the illegal heroin trade since the Veit Nam War.

Fact: They got caught in the 80s (Iran-Contra).

Fact: U.S. troops are actually guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan, supposedly to keep the peace.

Fact: You don't have to use your Rocket Surgeon skills to figure out the rest.


Larry Wall 2 years ago

Yes, I knew about Hurricane Erin (did not remember the name) and it was far off the east coast and was expected to turn to the northeast, as most, not all, but most hurricanes in that area do. Trust me, mortal men cannot control the paths of hurricanes. If you have ever been through one, you might understand. My best friend, had his only uncle and aunt to die in Betsy because they would not leave their homes and he could not get to them in time.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

70 miles off the coast of Long Island when the first 'plane' supposedly hit the first tower is not what I would call far off. Yes most Hurricanes do turn Northeast but for some reason, just as the forecasters predicted a week in advance Sandy did not.

Sandy hit within minutes of high tide, to create the most flooding possible and FEMA was already set up and waiting for it, yet somehow Hurricane Erin did not, Hmmm funny how that worked out.

Larry there is no way I would ever trust you and I have found the people that say 'trust me' are usually the ones that can't be trusted.

After all an honest man has no need of those words because he has nothing to prove to anyone, however a liar will do everything in their power to make you believe them, think about it.

Didn't I read a few comments ago that you were not going to comment anymore and now you want me to trust you when you can't keep your word to yourself, Hmm how does that work . . . ?


Larry Wall 2 years ago

I give you credit for creating a paradox. I said I would not offer any more comments, but then you throw in the ringer of deleting the final comment, so that you have the last word. Thus my promise to offer no more comments disappears and you introduce a new rule of deleting comments from those who disagree.

Now you have asked me question. If I offer the explanation, I am acting as a professional and answering your question to the best of my ability. However, since you state that you will delete my comment because you always get in the last word on your hubs demonstrates that you are not interested in both sides of the discussion having a fair and equal chance to explain their respective views. I believe I said I would comment no more in the comment that you deleted, thus releasing me from that commitment.

Now you have restated in part the statement about no additional comments, but if you follow your somewhat one-sided and rather unprofessional practice of deleting the last comment, so you always get in the last word, you are faced with a dilemma. You can delete this comment and assume that people think I m through talking to you or have nothing to say, or you can leave the comment, thus forcing you to change your personal rules and let people see how you manipulate the discussion to support your views while disregarding the views of the others.

I would say you have painted yourself into a corner. By deleting this comment, people will probably assume that I just got tired of your unsubstantiated claims and comments. The fact that you would never trust me is irrelevant. I do not need your trust.

The final thing I am waiting to see is if you delete this response, and continue with your rant. I will never know because you are boring me and I am going to blacklist you so I do not receive any additional notifications about comments you have made. Thus, our discussion is concluded.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Agreed however since I didn't delete any of your comments this whole diatribe is meaningless and nothing more than mental masturbation.

Allow me to clarify, I said I could delete your last comment but since I'm getting the last word there is no need. I give you credit for rambling without making a point or answering the question asked, well done.

Blacklist away, I doubt I will lose any sleep over it.


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Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Daniel most people are totally asleep about what is truly going on. That is their choice. People who are awakening know that there never was truly a war on drugs. ( Money makes the world go round) is the main culprit. Only when the need for having total control over the global population through whatever means is stopped, and the corruptions that stem from pure greed has dispersed due to the total financial collapse, only then will Drug Trafficking come to an end.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

And of course I understand this however what also needs to be contemplated is the need for drugs. Our conditioning has become so complete that folks have a need to feel good because they can no longer achieve this spiritually. That concept alone I believe is what is triggering this need to feel good through artificial means.

I recently finished a book called From Contact To Ascension by Gesanna in which it clearly outlines what is required for Ascension and along the way describes how our enslavement transpired over eons of time. This book is must read for anyone that resonates with the Ascension concept but it also shows that many folks simple will never even wake up to their own enslavement, let alone Ascend.

Now this is neither bad nor good but merely apart of our evolutionary process however the human race has been living as indentured servants for millions of years and even the death concept is being used as a means of control. Granted The Powers That Be didn't invent death but they definitely use it as a tool of our perpetual enslavement.

After all you don't want your servants living long enough to figure out they are slaves. Yes, the money concept is the greatest tool they have for keeping us locked into the matrix however the fact that the majority of humanity is being blocked from connecting to their souls, creates a Catch-22 that maybe 'virtually' impossible to break through.

Full Disclosure would certainly help the situation.


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Nadine May 2 years ago from Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa

Daniel you might resonate with David R. Hawkins, work, Power vs Force. In there he clearly shares a layout on the calibration of consciousness. It has a map on the level of consciousness that clearly correlate to emotions, perceptions, or attitudes, worldviews and spiritual beliefs. Very helpful in order to understand where people are coming from. Thanks for your excellent reply.


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somethgblue 2 years ago from Shelbyville, Tennessee Author

Thanks, good another book to read, you have certainly recommended some good ones already, I will get as so far your recommendations have been really good.

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