High Fuel Prices And Obama

Bad Policies Equal High Fuel Prices

Feeling uncomfortable yet when you pull up to fill up your trusty steed? Experts say it's going to get worse before it ever gets better. I caught part of Obama's teleprompter speech which once again was in the campaign mode and his usual snide, smart alecky self. One thing was apparent, even though he chided others about drilling. He doesn't have a clue about what to do to solve the crisis. He keeps wanting to spout off about "people not knowing what they're talking about." Since when is Obama an expert on energy. He has squandered billions so far, to the tune of 25 big ones, of our tax dollars like Don Quixote chasing windmills and his answer is to double down on alternative sources of energy. Yeah, that's the answer since we're far from reality in that arena.

So lets revisit a few of his energy statements made in the past just for S&G's. What we are seeing as far as "policy" is purposeful. Part of the overall mix of the crisis is the policies of this administration concerning this nation weaning itself off of foreign oil. We have plenty right here in our nation to meet our own needs and help break OPEC's back. The hiking of energy and fuel prices has been in his plan all along. His thing is the green thing, not the American consumer who has to pay for the nonsense that has been going on at the pump, besides watching our tax dollars go to his green initiative buddies who one by one are ending up in bankruptcy court. Don't believe it's intentional. Watch the short video here.

At Our Expense?

Wait a minute. When he was campaigning in 2008 he was peddling the snake oil that policies under his administration would bring down the price of gas. Oh really? Is that what we see? What we have is record high gas prices that are projected to climb higher. Drill, Baby, Drill! His answer now seems to be to shrug his shoulders and say there isn't anything he can do about it. Oh really? Then I suggest he stop pointing his bony finger at other people and ridiculing their ideas. He has that act down pat.

Has he hidden his agenda? Not in the least. His agenda is to pacify the tree huggers of the country while the rest of the nation pays an exorbitant price for what rightfully belongs to the citizens of this nation and not the federal government. The government's roll is to issue permits to drill on land owned by the citizens of this country, nothing more and nothing less should be the case. We, the people own the public lands and all that area off of our shores for 12 miles. We own it, not Obama and his administration.

This nonsense has been going on for over 30 years now. All talk and no action is what we have seen. It's been the same old "I'm going to block what you try to do" politics for too long. The mindset has been "it's going to take 10 years to see any results" from the Democrats every time the expansion of domestic drilling has hit the table. Take the case to the mid-90s. Republicans put it on the table and Democrats blocked it with that rationale. Ten years later, without seeing any results, it was brought to the table again. Same rationale and same results - nothing was accomplished. Now ten years later what are we facing? You got it - record high gasoline prices.

Ever hear of the Bakken region in the Dakota's? If not then Google it. There's a drilling boom occurring up there and they can't get it out of there fast enough. I believe that Obama would stop that boom if he could, but he can't. The reason he can't is because it's on private land, not public. Lets go back and repeat. Public lands belong to the people of this nation, not the Obama administration. The drilling has virtually stopped during his tenure on public land. Why? To appease environmentalists or to exercise his agenda? His agenda is now proving to be very expensive for the American consumer.

Now Listen To This Analysis

All the blah, blah, blah about new high speed sources of energy and put everyone in what one author calls "battery powered clown mobiles" needs to be pulled to the curb. Americans don't want a Chevy Volt. That's made by Government Motors and we don't want the rolling caskets. We sure don't need our gas prices to reach the prices people are paying in Europe. This is the United States of America and all this trying to mirror Europe that Obama is intent upon is insanity. At the time Stephen Chu, the Energy Secretary, made that stupid statement the price was sitting at $7 to $8 a gallon. Sure that's just what we need. The world, and economies of the world, run on fossil fuels whether Obama likes it or not.

It's time to start solving the problem. It's all about, or should be about, becoming energy independent concerning fossil fuels. Our resources are there as the good Doctor below points out.

Here's One Solution. Short And Sweet.

This has been purposeful and at our expense. Enough is enough.

As Always,

The Frog Prince

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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

"This nonsense has been going on for over 30 years now. All talk and no action is what we have seen. It's been the same old "I'm going to block what you try to do" politics for too long." Amen. Ronald Reagan's first official acts of office included removing Jimmy Carter's solar panels from the roof of the White House, and reversing most of Carter's conservation and alternative energy policies. That was 30 years ago. What if he had built on them instead of undoing them. Where would we be today?


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Kathleen - I'm a free market guy so you may be asking the wrong person that question. The technology isn't there. It isn't the federal government's function to pick the winners and losers in the market place. Of course, I'm not a socialist so I don't comprehend that concept. What you are referring to has little, if anything, to do with powering the primary transportation systems throughout the world. Those are petroleum based products, no matter how you slice it or dice it.

The Frog


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Hi Frog -- I lived in Louisiana when offshore drilling was huge -- and it's been sad to watch it just trickle down to nothing. Hopefully everyone will watch these videos as they're powerful! Again, thanks for getting the word out there! Voted up! Best/Sis


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Sis - That last video should be an eye opener for anyone.

TFP


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Angela Blair 4 years ago from Central Texas

Frog -- the last one was sure an eye opener for me -- suspected but had no idea. Best/Sis


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TheManWithNoPants 4 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Good job bro. I can trash the hub I'm putting together. We're so damn close on this that mine's not needed. Even had one of the same videos. Great minds think alike thay say. lol I may hit it from a different angle. We'll see

Nice work! Up interesting and awesome.

jim


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

They keep saying "it's ten years until new oil fields can be productive." But, if we had started development in ANWR in 2002 during the Bush administration where would we be today? The ten year objection is simply nuts. ANWR itself has more oil than Saudi Arabia.


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American Romance 4 years ago from America

Frog,

You are right he can't get to private land but don't think he is not trying! They are using the sand lizard in Tx and NM, and any lies they can make up concerning fracking to stop drilling! Without frack work there is not an oil company in business that will ever drill another well!............it cost up to 7 million to drill one well, fracking can add up to 300 percent in production, otherwise you might get a well that produces around 8 barrells a day,..........takes a long time to get the 7 mill back at that rate!


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RetailRich 4 years ago

Great article and comments that are right on target! Remember, Obama was going to make us less energy dependent on fossil fuels. Instead he"s squandered hundreds of millions on companies owned by his campaign contributors, which have gone under already, leaving tax payers holding the bag once again. Meanwhile the press buries the stories!


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idigwebsites 4 years ago from United States

Fascinating article...keep the good work going!!!


Stu 4 years ago

Obama is simply crazy. Between high taxes, high regulatory costs, and high energy costs, why is any business going to want to invest and create jobs here? The green alternatives just won't work right now. The consumer price, plus the taxpayer subsidies necessary, exceed the price of legacy fuels. And legacy fuels are already pricey and rising. I have no problem with reasonable regulation to keep air and ground pollution from fossil fuels within safe levels, but strangling us with all this fear-mongering about "global warming" is crazy. Even if it's true that we are going through a long term warming trend, which is by no means certain, who has proven to a high degree of certainty that it's due to burning fossil fuels? I just don't see how we can base such critical policy on conjecture. I think it's just Obama sucking up for Greenie votes, and a desire to "harmonize" (transnationalism) with the rest of the world simply because they pay more than we do. Also, some of the green energy loans have been made to very shaky companies whose owners or directors are Obama buddies. There's a reason these companies can't get commercial bank funding - THEY CAN'T PAY THE MONEY BACK.


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Alastar Packer 4 years ago from North Carolina

Frog I read this carefully and could only shake my head at the end. Sometimes it seems we're living in a Alice Through the Looking Glass World where everything is topsy-turvey. Why are so many restrictions put on us as concerns energy related industries yet it's okay for China to burn dirty coal and continuously keep opening these kind of plants?


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marywanders 4 years ago from minnesota

Only part of the problem is Barrack whosinsane Obama, we need to get rid of the front man and then weed out the rest we can vote out and hopefully the newly voted in will toss out the rest of the trash. I can only hope and pray.... I am tired of being the prey.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jim - Don't worry. This administration gives us a smorgasbord of topics to write about on a daily basis :)

Davesworld - Every ten years for thirty years. How much crude could have been yielded by now?

American Romance - You're in the industry so you know it a lot better than I do.

RetailRich - Remember in November and take 5 people with you to polls.

idigwebsites - Why thank you Maam.

Stu - Google Cycle 25. That's the cycle we're entering right now.

Alastar - His answer now is algae. This guy is over the top!

Mary - It's going to take a few election cycles to take all the trash out that has been sitting up there for decades not doing the will of the people.

The Frog


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marywanders 4 years ago from minnesota

Frog, I know change takes time, I just wish some of them were gone before we have to pay them a huge retirement check all on the peoples dime.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mary - Don't expect them to change those rules! LOL

TFP


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wba108@yahoo.com 4 years ago from upstate, NY

I agree with you and lay would the blame squarely on the liberals and their anti-business policies. If they really give a hoot, (which I doubt) they would do everything possible to increase domestic production. This includes removing thier ridiculas restrictions on drilling and fund that pipeline like yesterday!


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Hated By Liberals 4 years ago from Eastern U.S.

Good Job Prince -

He does have an agenda of bringing down America because he remembers the colonization of Kenya and the wealth of that country taken by Britain. He actually hates the word "profit" and his Elitists and Czars want to deliver the U.S. bound and gagged to the UN so he will be rewarded with the honorary title of Supreme Leader of Humanity.

What other nation in this world does NOT develope it's own resources to better itself ?


Ghost32 4 years ago

Jim (Frog), you just gave me an idea for a science fiction novel:

1. Titled "The Sleeper" or something innocuous like that.

2. A Progressive-style regime manages to hold down drilling in the U.S. while the rest of the world exhausts its resources.

3. Then the worm turns, and America rises from the ashes with a powerful conservative government AND the only significant petroleum reserves left on the planet.

See? It's like those old Fram commercials, "You can pay me now, or you can pay me later."

I vote for paying now, throw the bums out, drill baby, drill, and worry about going dry after we've squeezed the last available barrel of oil out of the shale where it's been hiding.

Voted Up and Beyond.


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teaches12345 4 years ago

I just watched a TV documentary on this and it stated that we should have been working on fuel production since 2002. As it is, they predict gas prices increasing to over $5.00 per gallon this year in some places. How is the "green" resouce allocation going to help drive this down for those of us who suffer currently from reduced income?


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

teaches - It isn't. It's Obama's pipe dream not the consumers.

The Frog


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Hated By Liberals 4 years ago from Eastern U.S.

Commentors seem to think there is some noble purpose for the eco-terrorism attacks on the energy sector. It is nothing more that another political scam to grab more power and control over not just energy, but food, healthcare, transportation, communication, and also your employment. What is left for you to decide?

There is nothing noble about Elitist Tyranny. Duh Bro Must Go


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CHRIS57 4 years ago from Northern Germany

You are talking about gas prices? What does that have to do with coal reserves (because coal is the only fossile energy source the US has lots of, my regards to mountain top mining in the Appalachians)?

Anyhow, take off 30 to 40% for the hydrification process efficiency and you have your gasoline for cars. But that is a really expensive process, would drive gas prices well beyond 10 bucks per gallon (not a new process, refer to hydrification plants in Nazi Germany, something only good for war times).

Oil reserves of the US only resemble 2% of world reserves. But a current rate the US consumes almost 20% of world production. So the long term chance of filling domestic oil in your tank is only 10%. Today the chance is 30 to 50%, but that only indicates that the US is exhausting its explored reserves 3 to 5 times faster than the rest of our planet.

Isn´t it a wise decision to reduce domestic production because it will be running low much earlier than foreign sources?

Please don´t argue with the Bakken oil shale. That huge reserve is melting away within minutes of a thorough google search.

I hope the US holds lots of hidded reserves. There better much more to discover to comfort us for the next 50 years, but do you think this will be different in other places on this planet?

Oil prices are market prices, world market prices. That is where the 4 USD/gallon come from. You can bet if you pay 4 bucks in Washington DC, you pay the same 4 dollars in Moscow, and there it has nothing to do with the current US administration.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Chris - Try watching the last video and then come back and say something meaningful.

Natashah - Yes, according to Obama that was an answer too.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Chris - Obama has the answer now. You can read it here. LMBO

http://hubpages.com/politics/Pond-Scum-AKA-Algae-I...

The Frog


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Hated By Liberals 4 years ago from Eastern U.S.

Hey Frog-

Chris sounds like another politician with bushels of percentages, and poll numbers to prove a point he wants to make. But he should check with the American Petroleum Institute before making bogus statements backed up with phony statistics. The facts are far different from Chris' numbers.

The problem for America is political punishment using environmental activists to make the squeaky wheel even louder. *** WE HAVE RESERVES *** WE HAVE KNOW HOW *** WE HAVE A MARKET *** WE USED TO HAVE REFINERIES, until EPA decided to penalize and punish them by holding out the "carrot of compliance" which will never happen, because they change the rules - - and the rules aren't the same for everyone. WE HAVE COAL AND OIL - we are not allowed to utilize them to punish some and reward the eco-terrorists. That is why America is collapsing.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

HBL - Obviously Chris didn't watch the videos. You see he was so busy thinking about what he was going to say he skimmed the Hub rather than read and watch everything on an article. Typical liberal point of view. Of course he knows a lot more than that PhD does on the last video.

The Frog


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CHRIS57 4 years ago from Northern Germany

Watch last video? That funny guy from AEI?

I compared his figures with whatever i could find in internet. They don´t match.

But then, what do you (i) expect? He is from AEI. Why don´t you just talk directly with Halliburton and Exxon. That said with full respect to those companies, one of them is even a customer of mine in my professional life. But then - they are biased, very biased. The video doesn´t withstand facts.


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

I don't dispute anything in any of the videos. But fossil fuels can't be our only option. And what would you do after the biggest oil spill in US history? Carry on like nothing happened? Have we learned nothing about what American businesses do when regulations either go away or are unenforced? Yes, America has all the resources we need right here in our own backyard. We need some of those free enterprise folks to step up and figure out how to make a living delivering it to us. The energy crisis has been growing with our full knowledge for 30 years and what have we done about it? It was so much cheaper just to get oil from the Middle East - until they started shooting at us. You don't want the government running things? Fine. I agree. Some entrepreneurs step up and solve the problem. If we can just get Exxon and the other oil companies to stop counting their money and get out of the way long enough for new technologies to get to the marketplace at a fair price that can compete with gasoline. Maybe if we hadn't had five pro oil company administrations in the last 30 years we would have made some progress by now.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Sure Chris, sure you did. Check this out. Do your red wires go to the red terminal and your black wires go to the black one? The guy has a PhD in the subject you are running your gums ceaselessly about. Go find that woman who loves you and let us have an adult conversation. Your debating skills aren't up[ to par son. He;s a scientist and you are?

Kathleen - You are right but since we ignored the problems since the mid-70s, we can't afford the likes of Obama trying to waste our money. Solyndra? Remember that? There are more in bankruptcy court and more in line to go there. Then the clown comes up and tells the gullible that algae is the answer? You can read about that here. He's a nut job just like most progressives, one of which I am not. The government is the problem, not the answer.

http://hubpages.com/politics/Pond-Scum-AKA-Algae-I...

The Frog


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

Frog, all due respect, I remember Soyndra. I also remember Watergate and Iran Contra. No the government is not the solution. You are a free market guy. Let the idea people solve this problem without the cards stacked against them by the companies that have the money. It is easy to take cheap shots at the President. That's not how problems get solved, as you know as well as anybody.

After my first comment your answer was we didn't have the technology in the late 70s. It has been 35 years. Why do you think we don't have what we need to move off this dime by now?


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

What do Watergate and Iran Contra have to do with this subject? If you show due respect then try to at least remain close to the topic Kath. What you are doing is trying to say, "Watch my left hand and not my right hand." We are talking about a subject in the here and now.

Ever heard of crony capitalism? If not, ask Obama to define it for you. He's quite good at it Kathleen.

The Frog


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CHRIS57 4 years ago from Northern Germany

I just like to rub myself with you guys. Talking about gas reserves and ending up being sent to my lady.

"He;s a scientist and you are?" - Well, i don´t earn my money in a pure science world, but then i have a record of graduate and post graduate students. If my PHD is not sufficient, i can get you one. Just do a 3 year doctorate research in my company.. I guess your shot went into the wrong direction.

Again, thank you for your hub. It is a pleasure to argue. I only like facts and play with numbers. And it is not very difficult to identify manipulations.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Chris - Talk the talk so walk the walk and post a Hub with your credentials. You don't have any affect, other than being a nuisance, with adults discussing adult topics. You want to argue? On line? With who? Sounds like kindergarten talk to me. If you happen to have a PhD in energy sciences then drop back in son.

The Frog


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anjegirl 4 years ago from Myrtle Beach,SC

The scientist is right all the way around but Agenda 21 stands in the way of ever going there, otherwise Bush would have done what the doctor advises----he campaigned that he would and didn't----the reason our companies have all left America is because of the 35% tax rate on businesses that do not exist anywhere else in the world-----the highest in any other industrialized nation is 25% or less----our jobs will not come back to America ever unless we fix the tax code which the Democrats always will block because of Agenda 21----in addition for four decades the dems and their presidents have piled on so many EPA and other regulations that businesses cannot function or do business in America anymore----in the 90's I met with dozens of small business owners who were leaving the State of Washington due to the fact that we got duped into initiating hillarycare and they told us that the Clintons had made so many new laws to hinder doing business that they couldn't even keep up with all of them----many business owners felt they needed to hire someone just to keep up on all the new rules they were likely to be breaking and they all stated that hillarycare was more than they could handle and was the last straw and 60,000 small businesses exited the state before the voters could get it overturned-----now all businesses have to deal with obamacare and there is no place to run but out of the country--

Our government does not set the price of crude oil or gasoline and neither our President nor our congress can change these prices in any way---Newt is saying he can keep gas prices at $2.50 forever which is possibly the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard a politician say---if you know anything about the global pricing of oil on the world market you know that the only way we can effect this in any way is to park our cars and stay home---and/or develop our own resources---otherwise we cannot affect the prices or keep them from going to $12 a gallon like in Europe----we are running out of water as well and our water is being given to China to pay our debts to them and to Switzerland to bottle for Nestle and the auquifers are being purchased by Aristocrats from all over the world---we will be looking at super high gas prices and there is nothing we can do to fix that in the near future but wait until we are looking for water that we no longer have---I worked with Sonny and Mary Bono to try to save the Salton Sea water to no avail and now it is dried up---so sad and so part of the Agenda 21


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TheManWithNoPants 4 years ago from Tucson, Az.

Frog,

Why are you wasting time with that no hub writting goof? He's not even an American. You know I love a good political match, but they've got to have a dog in the fight. lol

Anjegirl seems like she's got it going on. Gonna check her profile.

jim

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anjegirl 4 years ago from Myrtle Beach,SC

unfortunately man with no pants I do alot more commenting than I do hubbing because I am writing the story of my life and I comment on hubs sometimes because it takes me away from my book and relaxes me and I haven't been publishing hubs because doing so and monitoring the work would be one more thing that takes me away from my work which is my book right now--I always talk about the things I have lived and if I can get one person to see my country in the way I have seen it then I am having a good day---


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jim - It's like having a pet rock.

The Frog


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breakfastpop 4 years ago

If Obama were truly interested in solving our energy needs we would be drilling for oil and gas. Instead he is using our tax money to thank people who contributed to his campaign. These are the facts, plain and simple. Great hub Frog Prince. Up and shared.


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Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

It was just announced this morning that the southern half of the Keystone Pipeline from Cushing Oklahoma to Houston Texas is a go. Of course, Obama will soon be beating his gums about that though he had nothing to do with it...the coordination did not involve the fed. Since it was simply an interstate deal, that was all that was necessary. The fact that the northern portion runs into Canada brings the State Dept into and gives Obama license to stop it. So, now he will be playing both sides of the ditch as usual. The southern portion may do little to lower the price of gasoline as there are already a number of lines between Cushing and the Houston region. For those who do not know, when it comes to pipelines, Cushing is the center of the universe. It will mainly increase the capacity to move in that region. The real impact will come from getting the northern section in place and pulling down the tar sands crude. Don't look for that to happen until after the election, if at all. The vast majority of this situation is not rocket science but Obama and company have certainly made one hell of a mess with it...all part of breaking the back of the middle class who so claims to want to help. Good work,Frog! WB


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

My point is that every administration has things you can point out as failures, some intentional some not. Disagreeing with you is not necessarily not staying on the subject.


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Kathleen Cochran 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

And wouldn't it be nice if we could isolate our problems to just the here and now and not have to take any responsibilty for past actions (or lack thereof) that brought us to this point in time?

And receiving respect from me is earned, Frog - not the result of demands being issued.


theking2020 4 years ago

End the fed, were better of without them. We should have things like they used to be when Clinton was president.


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The Frog Prince 4 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Wayne - Thanks for the update.

Kathleen - As a matter of courtesy whenever I go on another's Hub I stay on topic. You might try it. The topic here is Obama and the high price of gasoline. Watergate nor Iran Contra contributed not one iota to the discussion other than to maybe get your feelings hurt when I asked you what they have to do with it. You still have failed to provide an adequate answer. I'll answer if for you - not a thing.

The Frog


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Hated By Liberals 4 years ago from Eastern U.S.

Hi Frog-Wayne hit on some of the truth of the central point of your hub, gas prices. Valerie Jarrett and her socialist cronies that have Obama's attention have used the EPA to shut down 5 - count 'em 5 refineries with bureaucratic bullshipping of "compliance issues" and finally Conoco-Phillips, Sunoco, Chevron and a couple others finally said - Just Leave, we'll shut 'em down. Refining capacity is a major factor in gas price. Much like an out of court settlement to keep shysters of any label from a piece of the pie. Best always....


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Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

George Soros is working steadily right now to make sure he has a piece of the pie if not all of it in the coal exporting game...the last bastion of cheap energy in America and our politicians will allow it to be exported with no penalties to China. China gets 80% of its electrical power from coal fired plants. Their coal reserves are inadequate due in some part to their poor mining practices but mainly due to the fact that they have less that 50 years of reserves at the current rate. So we can sit on the docks in California and watch Soros ship our coal to China and make billions on it in the process while the industry has its hands tied by the EPA in so many ways that many are just throwing in the towel in terms of domestic production. The same can be said of crude oil...speculation and sales on the world market without significant penalty leaves the consumer holding the bag as pump prices escalate. Approximately 20% of the crude on the market is there by speculation by investors who will not touch it from the time they buy it until it is sold. That figure, a few years back, was less than 5%. Speculation that prices will go steadily up will cause hoarding of the crude across the board and begin to starve the domestic market. Pipeline capacity is also overtaxed thus limiting the more economical movement of crude to strategic points. Mix that with a refining capacity choked down purposely by the EPA and our ability to make gasoline diminishes. Prices continue to climb even though domestic demand might drop. To address Kathyrn's comments on why private sector entrepreneurs do not find a solution...the answer is an easy one at the present...there's no money in it to be made as has been proved by this administration as it pours billions down "green" ratholes in search of some miracle while it appeases the enviro-types. Right minded business people do not throw money down rat holes. When alternative products reach some level of possibility, then you will see that start to happen. Think back on ethanol...even though it was developed years ago, it was no where near price competitive with gasoline. Ethanol has not really changed but the price of gasoline has and at about the time we figure out that ethanol has little or no redeeming value in the "green game". WB


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Davesworld 4 years ago from Cottage Grove, MN 55016

We have high energy prices in the country because the current Energy Policy can't pass a sixth grade sniff test. We can't look for new sources of oil, can't extract the ones we know about, but we can throw away billions down the renewable energy rat hole. I can't wait for adults to take over in Washington.


Stu 4 years ago

Hi Frog,

Good point about Cycle 25. The reality is that we don't have enough historical temperature data to prove that the past ten years of warm weather are truly due to man made causes. It would be crazy to base policy on theories that can't be proven as to validity and magnitude. If we had temperature data going back a few hundred years, and there were no decades of unusually warm or cold weather, then we might have some cause for concern regarding global warming. But what if there were 5-6 such periods? We'd basically be cutting our economic foot off to spite our ecological nose. While Cap & Trade did not pass, at least not yet, we are currently spiting ourselves by not drilling for more gas and oil. After all, we're already burning the stuff. But we're paying an embedded OPEC premium to get it. As Iran builds up allies, and develops the ability to blockade the western side of the Persian Gulf, we could see a price explosion in oil. Iran by itself can already blockade the eastern side of the Gulf. Imagine if Ethiopia and Yemen fell into the Iranian orbit. These two countries, plus Egypt, could blockade the Red Sea. Iran does the same thing on the other side, and voila, no oil from the Gulf. Navies wouldn't even be necessary - very short range land based missles could do the job. And radical Shiites have TONS of them. It's estimated that Hezbollah in southern Lebanon has 40,000 of them. If a single terror group, in one location, has this many short range missles, imagine how many armies of sovereign nations in the region have. I know there are some environmental risks from increasing fossil fuel production, but nothing comes without a price. Obama's "all or nothing" policy is not rational. The idea is to make intelligent trade-offs. For example, do fracking for oil in locations that are geologically stable enough to avoid tremors, or are far enough away from population centers so tremors are not an issue. Promote the extraction and use of coal utilizing the latest pollution reducing technologies. Make use of America's massive reserves of natural gas, which burns cleanly and can reduce home heating costs if domestic supplies can be increased. Same point regarding kerosene; more domestic oil means kerosene, which burns very cleanly, could come down in price. Our current energy policies simply have no balance, and they really have very little to do with energy. They are just political chips to get votes from radical environmentalists, and prop up Muslim oil producing nations which Obama cares more about than our own.

Stu


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anjegirl 4 years ago from Myrtle Beach,SC

I have been hearing for decades that we have massive reserves of natural gas----could someone please explain to me why that is and why we don't use it? It is underground,right? How do we get it out? Is is too expensive to get it out of the ground? I need someone to school me on this---I really don't get it----why can't cars run on it? I know you energy guys are probably laughing out loud at these questions,but I want to know, please? analise


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marywanders 4 years ago from minnesota

I too have a request, while explaining about natural gas, could you explain the difference between that and propane too?

My Mom's house uses gas, my 5th wheel uses propane. I was told you can only use one or the other and the appliance is made to burn just one of them.

Thanks I would really like to understand this.


Ghost32 4 years ago

Anjegirl and Mary:

First: Propane vs. natural gas. We (the U.S.) have a LOT of natural gas on tap. Propane is one of the by-products you get when natural gas is refined. LPG (what we think of as "gas" used to heat city homes) is actually a controlled mixture achieved during refining; it has both propane and butane as part of its makeup.

Mary, your Mom's house and or your 5th wheel can only use one or the other AT THE MOMENT, but to convert to the "other form" of gas usually requires changing out the gas jet(s) and nothing else. I've owned mobile homes that had to have the furnace jet(s) changed when they went from city (LPG) to country (Propane) settings.

We get natural gas out of the ground pretty much the same way we get oil out: Drill, frac, process, etc. My last job in the "oil patch" was actually in the "gas patch" on Colorado's western slope. The only problem (other than the Obama administration's bone deep hatred of everything petroleum-related) is price.

In 2008, when I was hauling water related to these gas wells, the price of natural gas per 1,000 cu. ft. ran as high as $10. That's VERY profitable for the energy companies. Much of the time, it was $8 or above--still profitable.

However, toward the end (early 2009) the price had dropped below $5. Now the companies were LOSING money, so they sensibly cut back on their drilling operations. At one point, I seem to recall being told the price had dropped all the way down to $2.50 or so.

Internal combustion engines CAN be reworked to run on LPG (and/or) Propane gas. Quite a few already are; many a warehouse forklift is powered from a propane cylinder, and some cities have converted their trucks to all-LPG usage.

Bottom line, then, there are two--and only two--limiting and/or encouraging factors when it comes to the production of natural gas in quantities huge enough to power the entire country:

1. The price companies can get for the gas when they sell it.

2. Regulatory roadblocks (currently) from the administration.

Unfortunately for massive gas production as of today, the three key "price watchers" show as follows:

Nymex Henry Hub Future:...............$2.42

Henry Hub Spot:.......................$2.36

New York City Gate Spot...............$2.59


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anjegirl 4 years ago from Myrtle Beach,SC

Thanks Ghost so much and I think I get it and I get that regulatory roadblocks and all the EPA stuff the Clintons enacted to make it too expensive to do any kind of production of anything in our country,but has the Obie administration since he took office actually put in more regulatory roadblocks that specifically made the price go down from $10 to $2.50 and has the "depression" that we are in also made the price drop like it has made houses depreciate? I mean if I get it, then that is what I think you are saying and do we have natural gas drilling rigs sitting dormant like our oil drilling rigs and why when it was at $10 didn't we take more of it out of the ground before the economy got bad and before like the Clintons put in all the EPA stuff? Why if we can power vehicles with it didn't we do that years ago? OOps, I guess I had more questions than I thought---I can't stand not knowing something and it is clean and we have lots of it and it makes the companies money and we can replace so many other things with it---why haven't we done that in the past? Thanks again,analise


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marywanders 4 years ago from minnesota

Thanks Ghost for answering those questions, when I started out full timing it in my camper I could fill my 20lb propane bottle for $6, now I havn't filled one for so long I have no idea what it is, the last one I filled was @25. I am so glad I didn't need a furnace in Co. as it never really got cold in Silt. Didn't need my heavy duty winter stuff there.

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