How Many Scandals Are Too Many Scandals?

Here We Go Again!!!

All those Obama adorers who worship at his altar and got us deeper into this mess than we ever should be need to pay attention as the scandals mount on "The Most Transparent Administration" in American history. If you believe that catch phrase you deserve a quick kick in the buttocks. We have Benghazigate, IRSgate, Holdergate and now Ghost E-mailgate. .

I was tuned into Fox News listening to The Five a while ago and Bob Beckel, being the last brilliant liberal legend in his own mind, wondered aloud what is wrong with cabinet officials having ghost e-mail accounts? Well Bob , you genius you, aside from the fact that they are basically illegal? Nothing. That sort of activity is covered under the laws outlined in the Freedom of Information Act which was designed to insure transparency in the federal government. Whoops! There's that transparency issued again. Only once again also being violated by those surrounding Obama.

How Much More Transparent Can This Get?

When Eric Holder stirred up the press corps with his shenanigans, first with the Associated Press then with Fox News and James Rosen, red flags should have started waving all through the Executive Branch but somehow some didn't get the word. The press can actually be brutal if they actually do their job. Just ask members of the Nixon administration. The thing is up until the time they became the Obama lapdog and played for suckers they were hesitant to say nary a word about "The One" they anointed and have protected for how long?

The Associated Press folks obviously weren't too happy. So along come an opportunity for the Associated Press to shoot back and I'll be darned of they didn't when they reported about what appears to be a common occurrence by government bureaucrats. Which one you ask? The use of secret email accounts. Why would that happen? It's not about spam which is what is driveling out of the lips of the guilty such as Kathleen Sebelius. Or Lisa Jackson, former head if the EPA who created a fictitious EPA employee named Richard Windsor who garnered online certificates of achievement on her behalf.

Now understand that this sort of thing seems a bit suspect since Lisa was doing this sort on thing on our time and our dime while she was supposed to be protecting the environment. Maybe she was just protecting her ego. Who know?

Keep Reading This Gets Richer...

If you don't think this administration tries to shakedown the press this will confirm your doubts if you ever had any. The Associated Press, being the now vigilant watchdog they should have been all along, issued a FOIA request to the Department of Labor attempting to gain any, and all, emails hidden in secret email accounts. They're there and this is opening up as the newest administration ball of sour wax. So what did the Labor Department do? You'll never guess or maybe you will.

They attempted to shakedown the Associated Press, after Eric Holder did what he did with his subpoenas. Now do you think that is wise? How? They told the AP that it would cost them $1.3 million for the supposed costs of the department retrieving that particular data for political appointees. Really? Here's a quote from the story itself:

"(The agency) said it needed to pull 2,236 computer backup tapes from its archives and pay 50 people to pore over old records. Those costs included three weeks to identify tapes and ship them to a vendor, and pay each person $2,500 for nearly a month’s work.

But under the department’s own FOIA rules – which it cited in its letter to the AP – it is prohibited from charging news organizations any costs except for photocopies after the first 100 pages. The department said it would take 14 weeks to find the emails if the AP had paid the money."

So the stuff hit the fan when that attempt was made and reported. The result was a department spokesperson admitting that the "cash shakedown" was a mistake. No kidding? Immediately forthcoming was all email addresses of political appointees in the Labor Department. Wait a minute! What happened to the 14 weeks needed to compile whatever you said you were going to have to compile? Transparent huh? You're darned right it was. I know a shakedown when I see one meant to dissuade anyone from obtaining information you don't want them to have. We're talking classic Chicago style politics here folks. Did you expect more or less?

This suppression of the press is now extending well beyond The Whine House which uses its bully pulpit to badgered the press corps. We have the Justice Department making reporters criminal suspects for reporting and seeking the scenes behind the scenes. And now the HHS Secretary admitting that she uses secret email accounts to avoid spam. The Lisa Jackson affair and the Department of Labor trying to monetarily shaking down the Associated Press to obtain a few email addresses for scrutiny.

The Biggest Pathological Liar I Have Ever Heard. Not One Word Of What He Said Here Has Occurred.

So now we have an administration creating a new rule for the press under the banner of transparency? The new rule is called pay to play but it really isn't a new rule. As I said it is a classic case of Chicago politics brought to Washington DC. Do we have anyone from Chicago at the reins of power in our federal government? I'm just asking...

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As Always,

The Frog Prince

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Jayfort 3 years ago

Outstanding summation of current events, TFP. Up and awesome!


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Justin - Your comment was removed for self-promotion of your Hub written by a left-wing hyper-partisan. The investigations have just begun son so stay tuned. CYA

The Frog


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MartieCoetser 3 years ago from South Africa

I thought you were talking about South Africa....

They are trying their best down here to change the Freedom of Information Act in such a way that fraud could be invisible....

Oh well, which country has the privilege to boast with a perfect government?


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FitnezzJim 3 years ago from Fredericksburg, Virginia

Can I talk you into adding something that explains what a ghost e-mail account is? I'm not sure I got that part.


Jayfort 3 years ago

Each federal employee has an official e-mail account that they are supposed to use to conduct their official, public business. A ghost e-mail account is an unofficial/off-record account (usually using a fake name/identity) over which they can conduct business in a clandestine manner to hide it from public view such as Freedom of Information Act requests.

For an administration that promised to be the most transparent administration, this is a damning behavior, showing that they wish to hide their activities from the American People.


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Angela Blair 3 years ago from Central Texas

You're right on it as usual, my friend! Best/Sis


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

I stopped reading as soon as you said Fox News. They live in an alternate reality where they still can't accept Obama won another term. While I do not agree with all he has done, I am appalled by the way he is being obstructed no matter what he wants to do. The R's never play fair, I know that from my involvement with local government. These scandals are made up to detract attention from the fact the R's have no plans to solve any of our country's problems. At least Bill O'Reilly admits his show is an opinion show and does not try to pass it off as "news." Hannity is just insane. What will he do without Sarah Palin to flirt with? Call in Ann Coulter?


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

FitneezzJim -Jay explained it well.

Jean - You might be the one living in the alternate universe. ActuallyI'm glad you stopped reading because we wouldn't want you to learn anything. Remain a sheeple.

You need to learn to separate the hard news division from the commentary division. Obviously you haven't.

The Frog


Jayfort 3 years ago

Jean - I stopped watching CBS/NBC/ABC/MSNBC/CNN when they started using the same Democrat (left wing) talking points and saying EXACTLY the same thing each time. That is a statistical impossibility unless they are reading from a prepared script! The ONLY channel that expressed solid NEWS and Right AND Left opinion was FoxNews! Deny it if you like, but you are deluding yourself and endangering your fellow Americans with your voting habits.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jayfort - The funny thing about Obama's disciple Jean is that she must not be aware that Obama gets his news from none other than FOX News. ROTFLMAO

Jean seems to be one of those "if you don't like the message then attack the messenger" type. She lost by not reading the article.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

FOX news is truly hated by many liberals because it destroys many of the "facts" they have been hand fed by the liberal media. Sheeple have their own way of thinking and resent any and all information that doesn't totally agree with the BS they have chosen to believe.

When a hurricane is headed straight for their home, many a parent will tell their children, "Don't be scared, everything will be OK." The liberal media does much the same thing. Thus we have huge numbers of people who believe the nearly 17 Trillion debt is nothing to worry about, "everything will be OK."

We are currently living with a government gone wild and the media does their best to convince the sheeple that all is well. It is just those pesky conservatives who keep asking questions and stirring up trouble.

I truly feel sorry for those who can't sort the truth out of the BS they are being constantly fed.

They all know that the current IRS scandal is nothing more than a Political ploy by the Conservatives to stir up trouble and make themselves look good. How in the heck could the most powerful government agency in the world breaking laws and running wild be something they should worry about? Sleep well sheeple, your elected representative are telling you everything is OK.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - Interesting that these scandals are being "made up." That is the battle cry right now of a left wing loon. It's all a big lie. When in fact Obama himself is nothing but a big, fabricated lie. Lois Lerner was caught on tape admitting the IRS was targeting groups with "Tea Party" or "patriot" in their titles. As the digging has begun it has gone deeper where religious/faith based organizations were being harassed. Just made up you see.

Then Holder lying "on the record?" Fox News might be the only station airing EXACTLY what Holder said during that sworn hearing. He lied and that's just made up too huh?

Or the weeks after Benghazi while this administration was touting some bogus video as being the cause of the death of 4 Americans in Libya. They just made that up too huh?

And now the existence of fake email accounts within the government data basis. Of course that was just made up too.

I wonder which planet some of these dummies live on much less in what country. The news is the news and the truth is the truth. Maybe it's times for the Lame Stream Media to merge those two ideas once again.

The Frog


Partisan Patriot 3 years ago

Great job as usual my froggy friend; as for the good Ms. Bakula; in the immortal words of Jack Nicholson in a Few Good Men; Ms. Bakula "you can't handle the truth"; that's what happens when you drink the kool aid too long!


Stu 3 years ago

I'm glad the MSM is finally going after Obama. But it's really hypocritical that it took the AP scandal to get them started. Effectively, the press is saying tyranny is fine, as long as it is not imposed on them. Of course I'm not happy that the rights of the press were violated, and will be violated further by an "administrative decision" (a rule not passed by Congress and thus not properly enforceable on the States or the People) that receipt of classified information is criminal even if you don't commit a crime in obtaining it. But I am glad the press got a "jolt" to wake them out of their stupor. Now we can only hope that the MSM starts caring about the harm Obama is doing to people outside the press and report on it like they should. My hopes aren't very high, but anything can happen.


Stu 3 years ago

Jean,

FOX does not live in an alternate reality. In fact, I've never heard them even bring up the Birther controversy, so I don't see how you can say "...they [FOX] still can't accept Obama won another term."

Obama DESERVES obstruction, because so much of his agenda is unconstitutional - think about ObamaCare (no federal enumerated power), gun control (violates the Second Amendment), refusal to enforce DOMA (breach of affirmative duty), the Federal Appointments Streamlining Act (violates the Appointments Clause of the Constitution), failure to charge and deport illegal aliens (violates affirmative duty), makes recess appointments when the Senate is not in recess (violates the Constitution), the Marshal Law Executive Order (no Presidential EO can constitutionally "make law" that imposes any mandate or restriction on the People or the States), supported the aborted Disclose Bill (violates the First Amendment), has engaged in COMMUNISM by fully taking over the student loan business, has usurped the role of Congress by imposing a substantive "DREAM Act" by HHS fiat (Congress voted this down over 20 times), wishes to create a "civilian security force" (a "personal army") in violation of Posse Comitatus, cheated senior creditors in the auto bailouts by illegally diverting ownership to union workers and their pension funds, etc.

The R's never play fair? Then what about Harry Reid illegally classifying ObamaCare as a budget resolution (the "nuclear option") to reduce cloture in the Senate and break the GOP filibuster? ObamaCare is not a budget resolution in substance (like a balanced budget bill or a debt ceiling change), and it did NOT originate in a House Committee (budget resolutions don't qualify for 50% cloture unless they originate in the House). What about the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of unfunded appropriations for HHS oversight and administration of ObamaCare state exchanges? What about the fact that the federal exchanges DON'T EVEN HAVE APPROPRIATIONS? What about the fact that the federal government doesn't even have an enumerated power to regulate insurance in the first place? Is all this "made up?"

I agree that "R's have no plans to solve any of our country's problems" if you are referring to establishment GOP's (almost all GOP's in Congress). But true conservatives (maybe about 2% of Congress) in the GOP DO have a plan: (1) vacate and defund federal operations and laws that violate enumerated powers (would cut federal spending by up to 75% and abrogate most of the off balance sheet debt), and (2) insist that all branches of the federal government interpret law according to originalist maker intent (Congress for federal law, State legislatures for Constitutional law) rather than letting judges and bureaucrats "make up what the law means as they go along" (i.e., use constructionism rather than activism, the latter being fiat dictatorship).

Stu


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

Wow, you guys are mean to react so much to a fairly small comment. I used to watch Bill O'Reilly because I think he does try to be fair, and I know the difference between hard news and opinion oriented shows. Even O'Reilly was being open minded about Obama until I suppose the management told him to tow the party line on him. We aren't ever going to agree, there are too many idealogical differences between the parties now. I still think we should all have health care, wealthy people should not just let others die because they don't have money. The only amendment many R's know and care about is the 2nd one, and there is no reason for military type weapons outside the military. George Bush began 2 wars and continually sent out rebate checks to the popluation when he was going down in the polls. I don't want to blame it on racism, but cannot believe all the attacks on both Obama and now Holder. And of course, you are all Constitutional Law experts! Ha! Just admit you don't like people, don't spread lies about them. It's mean. Didn't your conservative parents teach you manners?


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jean - "Management" doesn't tell O'Reilly what to think or do. The fact is, and O'Reilly has now openly stated this, that he has now seen what you obviously don't want to see - the real Obama. Might want to tune in once in a while and catch up. O'Reilly is also quick to admit that his show is "opinion" and not a news show. What are even more pathetic are the people who don't even, at this point, see how corrupt Obama, Holder and that whole crew are. You are obviously a partisan Democrat who believes every word he says. Sad but true huh?

You entered this Hub attacking Fox News, which played but a sentence here, and ignoring the FACTS. That's why people are on your case don'tcha think? If I'm lying anywhere in the Hub above point it out rather than be a hypocrite. You're doing a fine job of being that.

The Frog


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

I said that O'Reilly considers his show an opinion show, and in the past I generally have found him to be fair. I watch news on all channels. I don't like a lot of what Obama has done, or not done either. But blocking anything he tries to do is not going to solve anything. Congress should not be paid for doing nothing, not when so many people need jobs and they are well paid to diss someone they don't like. They remind me of little kids fighting in the playground. No matter who is wrong or right, they still have to work the problems out together, and I think Obama has been reasonable considering how shabbily they treat him. He is the President of the U.S., and they should at least respect the office. I'm sick of hearing people complain about Mrs. Obama's clothes and all this other petty stuff. We aren't going to find any common ground, so I won't keep coming back here. People from the coasts and people from the Midwest really look at most issues very differently. We'll have to agree to disagree, I'm sorry I came on this thread.


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

FP - When someone's only source of information is MSNBC, they tend to view current events much differently than most of us.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jean - So lets get down to the bottom of all the lies and misstatements and your contention that these things are being "made up" is ridiculous. That's why are these Congressional probes are going on? Then you also have the audacity to use the word "racism" here. You don't know me. or any of the other users here. What I can definitively tell you is I do not like Obama or his policies. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin and everything to do with his lack of experience to run this nation.

The Frog


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

You don't know me either, yet have made quite a few assumptions about me. I do think many of these scandals are blown out of proportion to waste time so Obama can't get anything through. There would have been more security in Benghazi if the R's didn't cut the security budget, and the CIA controls what and when the President is told about issues of National Security. The worst terrorist attack in American history happened under R watch, George Bush, and he spent the country bankrupt with wars begun under lies, which is well known now. Obama was never given credit for killing Bin Ladin, though if Bush or an R did it we never would have heard the end of it. He got criticized and R's said, stupidly, "It's not like he went to Pakistan and did it himself." Most Presidents in history sent troops to fight wars, so why knock Obama for doing what every President does? I'm glad you aren't a racist, I still don't understand the hatred R's feel for this man.

Clinton should have just pushed Hillary's health care plan through, now it's 20 yrs. later and we are the only industrialized country in the world who had no universal health care and the highest rate of infant mortality. As far as DOMA, I've been married for 33 years, and although I don't understand the gay life style, believe it's a civil rights issue and people should be able to own property together or leave someone of the same sex valuable things in safety so their less enlightened family members can contest their wills and not obey their wishes. Anyone Obama wants to appoint to the Supreme Ct. gets blocked, I saw an article that when the elder Bush chose a candidate, it took 1 week to go thru. With Clinton, it was 2 wks. With W, it was a month. With Obama, it's 14 mos. Whatever you think about all these issues, you have to admit they will say white if he says black. It's that simple.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jean - Prove what you say. I outlined FACTS and you're saying they are lies. We'll wait.


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junko 3 years ago

You cannot be reasonable with people who have no reason to be reasonable or try to understand you. What we have here is a failure to to communicate. The same problem exist in the Nation"s Capitol


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

I can't believe that anyone watching the Congressional hearings on the IRS scandal can still believe these are fabricated scandals to prevent Obama from doing anything. The most powerful government agency is running wild, breaking laws, and spending huge amounts of money and we should not be concerned?

Jean, this situation should have you as angry and frightened as most of us are today. This is government out of control but nobody in a position of power seems to know anything about it?


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

I didn't say they were lies, I said they are exaggerations made by people who dislike this President so much. Hannity calls him "The Anointed One" and now pretends he's horrified that Obama may not honor the 2 term Presidential rule because he thinks he's a King. So don't tell me to "tune in and catch up." I watch news on varied channels, including the BBC, which is often more honest than American news. If I were to discuss each accusation point by point, you would find a way to say I was wrong anyway. Stick safely with people who believe everything that you do, agree with all your posts, and you'll be fine. If Obama is so bad, why did he get re-elected despite all the voter suppression, and why is the stock market soaring, unemployment going down, and why did he save the auto industry? I'm not wasting any more time here.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - Oh they know...

TFP


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

jean - So "made up" doesn't mean "lie?" In your alternate world maybe huh? My advice to you is stick close to the FACTS and not what you think are the facts.

The Frog


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Pamela99 3 years ago from United States

Excellent job of summing up recent events. Fox new is irrlevant in this pack of lies and deceit. Watch Congress and read the various news reports as the information hardly all comes from Fox, although at least they will try to put forth some of the facts hidden by the liberals. The IRS doesn't even know what they spent on festivities let alone have any excuse for their inexcusable behavior. Facts are Obama does not have the experienc or know-how to lead this country. He will go down as the worst president in history.


Ghost32 3 years ago

Frog: Thanks for this one, Jim. I'd somehow missed the ghost email entirely.


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Wayne Brown 3 years ago from Texas

The stench coming out of Washington is already tainting the air out here in Texas. I wonder if we have a prison large enough to hold all the criminals involved in this administration. How can in one in their right mind have anything positive to say or believe about this guy and the folks who surround him. Of course, they all live by the adage, "it is okay to do anything to anyone else as long as I receive the benefit of it". Even Bill Clinton looks amatuerish against this Chicago Crime Syndicate. ~WB


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Wayne Brown 3 years ago from Texas

@Jean Bakula...Would that be the voter suppression up in Ohio where in some counties almost one million voters turned out and Romney did not get a single vote? Or would that be the voter suppression cited in the recent news that indicated that 1 out of every 4 votes in Ohio that voted in the last election was not "qualified" to vote. Romney certainly did not get that vote. Yeah, that must be the voter suppression that we are talking about that Obama, in all his greatness, was able to overcome. Pleassssse!


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Wayne- If we don't have one large enough I reckon we can build one.


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Pollyannalana 3 years ago from US

He made his little speech today acting like everything is normal and congress knows all about it. He answers one question with a lie that lasted long enough to sound like he answered ten. He was beginning to sound like Barney Fife. "You seeeeee....


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Jean Bakula 3 years ago from New Jersey

God, I came across this on the Hopper, and didn't realize it was written by a malcontent who had written hundreds of hubs against Obama.

I have tried to be concilatory to everyone on here, and openly admitted I don't like all this Pres has done or said either. I am particularly upset by the instrusions in our personal lives, though in the light of all the terrorist attacks, am used to them if it's the way it has to be to keep our country safe. But I'm shocked at the way I'm being attacked. Do any of you have friends with different opinions?

Wayne, in the election in my home town in NJ, the R's were out illegally in full force on Election Day, as they always are, giving free lunches and bottled water to their R friends. So maybe that's not voter suppression, it's bribery. It's well known the R's are trying to redraw the districts so more R's are living in areas where D's normally win. If they don't get used to people of other cultures and the fact it's not the 1950's anymore, they will never win another Presidential Election. I thought this one would stretch out forever, like Bush/Gore, but Obama won early in the evening, the people spoke.

I have never been on a thread where people were this mean spirited and closed minded as this. Do you all feel like big people by picking on one person who dares to have a different outlook (and maybe the same on some issues) as you do? I'm not coming back. The next time I contribute to the Hopper, I will check the person's profile to make sure I'm not getting involved with a zealot and his followers.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Jean - Since you stopped reading when you got to one sentence that mentioned Bob Beckel and Fox News, do you even know what the rest of it says? You talk about close minded. Good grief.

The Frog


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junko 3 years ago

Jean, they pledged not to understand. What do you hope... they will be reasonable?


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Junko - Other than be Jean's cheering section point out where this Hub is factually incorrect. We'll wait. Which of those scandals above, and more are being added as we speak, is "made up" as Jean contended. Then which of the user's here are racist. Now we know you left wing nuts "think" you are of superior intelligence and knowledge so put it on display other than make unfounded statements that the rest of don't see what your brilliance can see. Otherwise move on son.

I've been very reasonable in reporting what a fraud Obama is and continues to be. Witness all the scandals his administration is now having to deal with. It was only a matter of time.

The Frog


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Thanks Freedom Warrior. I use it and move it up.

TFP


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junko 3 years ago

All of the scandals, fake crissis, including the debt crissis has been distractions used by the right to avoid job creation. The American people want jobs and healthcare not non-issue scandals blown up like balloons. The right cannot and will not publicly appear reasonable about the President or anybody on the left. Wingnuts? C'mon man self examine.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

junko - BS and nothing but. The politicians in Washington DC, all of them , have driven this nation to the brink. I suggest you wake up and pluck it out son.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

Junk0 - Do you honestly believe the IRS situation is just a minor issue being blown out of proportion by the right? The most powerful government agency in the world running wild, breaking laws, and targeting certain groups is nothing? I wish I could see the world through your eyes. I would probably feel better about all the things going on in government these days.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - You know those rose colored liberal glasses are illusory. That $17 trillion and counting deficit is nothing to worry about. The junko's of the world will just stroke their imaginary checks and pay it off. The Frog


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junko 3 years ago

The economic problems created after the economic problems created by the previous Presidency is caused by Austerity after a recession. The Right is wrong about the sequester and austerity, American history and today's reality in Europe is proof the Right is wrong. Jobs, is the solution, not scandals. OldPoolman and The Frog should not post with fork fingers.


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Pollyannalana 3 years ago from US

Walid Shoebat is a Palestinian American Christian who converted from Islam. I have been listening to some of his videos and it is a real eye opener. He says O is an I. He comes from a point we could never have hoped to hear.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

junko - Off base again but nice try. Obama should have concentrated on the economy form the beginning. He did not and we see what his failed policies for going on 5 years are reaping. He's a failure. The blame Bush days are well past us son. You shouldn't post at all junko before you take your foot out of your yap.

Polly - Obama was raised as a Muslim so what would one expect?

The Frog


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

Junko - You didn't answer my question. I was asking if the testimony coming out about the IRS is not upsetting to you.

These are facts being given by people under oath, so that kind of indicates it is not something made up by the Right to punish Obama. His saying he knows nothing about this makes him a poor leader to say the least. He is the man in charge, and either some of those under him don't respect him, or just plain do whatever they want to do in spite of him.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

Mike - Come on man. junko is allergic to facts. You know that? He hasn't disputed anything I said in this Hub. He has been a cheerleader as usual absent of facts. It's all a big right wing conspiracy. Wait ! Didn't Hillary say that once upon a time when Bill couldn't keep his pecker in his pants?

The Frog


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junko 3 years ago

Poolman, The threat and use of an IRS Audit for political reasons has been a matter of fact since politics became a way of life in America. This is the first time I can remember the power of the IRS to investigate if those who apply to pay no taxes are qualified, is investigated for investgating after being Bomb Rushed by thousands of Right Winged Applicants. Their search and separation of applicants based on keywords and assoiations was wrong but not hidden. Since the process was not hidden the Congressional investigations looks like Witch Hunts.


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The Frog Prince 3 years ago from Arlington, TX Author

junko - So if Obama is going to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge you're with him huh? That's the lamest argument I see you use. "They've always done it that way." That's the friggin problem son.

The Frog


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

Even if this abuse of power by the IRS has been going on for a long time, it is time that everyone is made aware of the situation. Regardless of which party is in control, this misuse of power by the IRS must be stopped.

They too are supposed to operate within the framework of the laws as written.


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junko 3 years ago

Poolman my friend on the Right' it seems like you agreed with opinion. Abuse of power anywhere in govenment for a long or short time hurts We the people. New rules for the IRS must come from lawmakers who for the last five years have abused their power like never before. One senator blocking by filibustering by phone or email. The majority party in congress not allowing any minority bills to come to the floor for vote The Majority party in congress brings to the floor and passed in the house, the appeal of Obamacare 40 times. We need to stop the abuse of power among lawmakers so they can stop abuse in the IRS.


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Old Poolman 3 years ago from Rural Arizona

junko - I could not agree more with your last comment. That was very well said. Actually, I am not really from the Right. I kind of wander the center aisle agreeing and disagreeing equally with things on the left and the right.

They all abuse their power, and could care less about the people who voted them into their cushy jobs. I pretty much dislike all of them equally.


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Chrome Dome 3 years ago from Florida

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I wii give Obama one thing he is just as hardheaded as the terminator he is hell bent to do as much damage to our country as he can. by the end of his second term he will have this nation in such a mess I don't think we as a nation will be able to recover from. The things that are being done to us now are like a cancer. You can remove cancer but it still can come back in a different place, and can be fatal in the end. The data being stored by the NSA, sounds harmless. The data is stored in a machine and the machine will do no harm. The problem is the machine is ran by people and sooner or later people will use the machine to do harm to whom ever the person is the target of the person. Now the target is not only republican and conservative's but everyone that doesn't agree with the government that we have now. OH we don't have a government, we have the makings of a dictatorship. When our elected officials unchain them selves from our constitution the people will pay the price. This is how they feel it is OK to lie to not only congress but all the people as well. Now we can write about this all day but until people decide to do something about it nothing will happen. There has not been anything like freedom of the press for a long time. Obama has controlled the press with his charm from the beginning. Now that that is failing he wants to control the press by force. Thank God we still have news like Fox, at least we get some of the dark side of what our government is doing. Final thoughts. Fox is only able to tell what they can find out. If you think they can report everything that is bad for us then I believe you are very naive.


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CarolAnnHeadrick 3 years ago

Scandals is too mild of a term of what is happening courtesy of the Obama administration. Best I can come up with is criminal. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are being trampled on and disregarded.


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Chrome Dome 3 years ago from Florida

Carol first thank you for reading and adding your thoughts. Where we are coming closer to is a government that has done so much wrong the public might accept these wrong doings as normal and acceptable. When DOJ can lie to a judge, when IRS officials lie to congress, when the White House press secretary can lie to the public by means of the press and get away with it, there is the problem. The average person would go to prison for what they are doing. Elected officials used to be held to a higher standard, but not any more. If the voters do not vote these people out of office then there is no punishment. Think about a hypothetical. If the president or the vice president were to commit a murder what would happen. would they be sent to prison and would they take secret service with them? Again thank you for your thoughts.


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