I Heard that the President want more Revenue to Spend

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I heard that President Obama wants more Revenue to Spend

After getting to tax less than 2% of the wealthy a few years ago, the President wants to cut tax loopholes for all wealthy people and Corporations. The Republican leaders in the House and Senate blames the President for the Sequester. The Leader of the House said after the President was reelected “The President has been reelected and taxes will be raised”. That seemed to be an acknowledgement that the President won and will get some co-operation from Republicans the second Term. It turned out to be a set up to position Senate and House Republicans to declare that they have given in to tax increases and now it’s time for The President and Democrats to cut spending.

The President has since his first term offered to put Medicaid and Medicare on the bargaining table. He also offered other spending cuts amounting to over 2 trillion in Government spending cuts, but the Republicans refused to put Tax Revenue, Defense Spending or Corporate and Business entitlements on the table in the last four years. The Republican Leaders have before and since the Sequester said that they will introduce bills that will protect as much as possible the Defense Department from being defunded by the Sequester. The impact of the Sequester on the economy and the American people will be blamed on the President and the Democrats. It is being said now, that the Sequester was the President’s idea and that’s true to a curtain degree. The President was wrong in thinking that across the board cuts with Defense taking the biggest cuts would not be allowed by Republicans. He again underestimated the power of well organized political obstructionism in the House and Senate.

The Republican Party’s extreme Conservatives know that regardless of what the American people want or vote for, The GOP will rule as long as they vote 100% against the President. This strategy is not constructive as far as the country and the economy is concerned, but it has been very destructive to the Obama Presidency. Most people think that this President has the power of the Presidency behind him like most of the modern day Presidents, but that is far from the truth. I am not saying just power, respect, and revenue is lacking but the cards are stacked against him in Congress. Even though there are more Democrats in the Senate, Republicans rule with the 60 out of 100 rule that Whispering Harry, the Senate leader, allowed to remain unchanged. This is the first time in American History the President of the United States of America stands alone, powerless and broke without a credit card to do the people’s will. This fact is by design that the Presidency has been weaken and the American people and economy is collateral damage in the Conservative war against liberalism.

The President had a little power when the Liberals were in charge prior to the 2010 mid-term elections. The Tea Party Pledged Republicans were intolerant of any Republicans voting with the President on revenues, jobs, or so called social entitlements. Corporate and business entitlements were considered incentives for job creators in the private sectors and were encouraged and protected by the paid off politicians. The President managed to pass Financial and Healthcare Reform with the help of a couple of brave Republican women.

Among the American people there are no 14 carat or 100% pure Conservatives or Liberals. Our ideas, concerns, and desires are diverse and fluctuate daily between liberal and conservative positions and stands. Conservatives who engaged in word and phrase war games refer to liberal voters as Low Information Voters. The truth is, there are as many low information politically confused conservatives as there are low information liberals voters. The face of the tea party that was shown on American streets and political rallies leading up to the 2010 mid-term elections were older whites who needs Federal assistance to survive comfortably or at all. They were confused by far right conservative talk radio and television personalities that called them “Great Americans” and compared their personal economy with the Federal Economy. They were told that if they ran their personal economy like the President runs the Nation’s economy… well, that just didn’t make any sense to me. It made no sense to compare the two, but it made it simple for simple minds. Many of those people were used to promote an agenda that was not in their best interest and many came to realize they were used and voted for the President’s reelection. These days there will be no more tea party rallies. The conservative true targets have been identified and democrats and republican wage earners are the human sacrifice for the rich and powerful.

The Word and Phrase war game’s words since the sequester will be Taxes and Revenues. As for as state and federal governments are concerned, both words have the same meaning. In the games people with high information levels play on low information voters aimed at confusing them the words take on new and different meanings. The dog whistle affect of the word taxes tend to bring the people who pay taxes and those that don’t want to pay taxes under the same tent. Everybody pays taxes even the poor and everybody hates to be taxed. The Republicans and the New Tea Party just as the Original Tea Party refused to pay taxes. I could understand not wanting to pay taxes to grow Britain, but refusing to help support the country that has supported you for so long is wrong headed.

The President as all Presidents needs revenue to be President. All Presidents from Washington through George W. Bush were allowed the revenue needed to govern. George Washington needed to borrow from France because there wasn’t enough revenue from taxes to defend America. The President passed two important reform bills, but conservatives know that don’t mean a thing without Revenues. They know that the 600 billion they gave the President in taxes after he was reelected is not enough revenue to run some Wall Street Conglomerates, much less the U.S. Government. Since The 2010 Mid-term election the defunding of the Obama Presidency and the sterilizing of all his accomplishments has been the #1 priority of the Tea Party Republicans.

March 4, 2013

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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

JUNKO

''He also offered other spending cuts amounting to over 2 trillion in Government spending cuts, '' As of 3/3/13 the President has not put his cuts in writing, all nice talk.

The President wants revenue, how about pushing for jobs. Obama and the Senate has done nothing.

jobs? Check this site. http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

A solution to Sequestration ’Cut, Cap and Balance ‘

http://hubpages.com/politics/PRESIDENTBARACKOBAMA-...

CUT WASTE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVJ2gqqKWs

The President signed the fiscal cliff law designed to reduce the deficit, added $74 billion in spending through changes in the tax law.

Last night, Congress just added $70 billion worth of new loopholes.

pay go law required spending cuts, the House gave the President what he wanted, taxes.

Wake up America,

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/paygo_description/

Junko my friend , seek the truth. Woodward exposed the Presidents distortions and lies.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

Junko

Just another side of the story, the truth.

3/3/13 Meet the Press David Gregory

http://www.yidio.com/show/nbc-meet-the-press/seaso...


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

So true junko. It's a concerted effort to take down the USA. They want us to be owned and owners. Just look what they are doing now.....trying to take back the sequester cuts on their side: the pentagon cuts....but leave the cuts to the very poor.

Since 2000, more and more people have become very poor: by design.

It was the Bush Tax Cuts.....Sent all the wealth of this great land to the upper eschelons.

And they intend to keep it there.....by cutting from the rest, but leaving the loop-holes for the wealthy, and the give-away programs such as subsidies: for billion-dollar profit making entities!

I mean, you have to ask yourself....what kind of integrity is it to smear others as moochers, while you yourself take more than anyone could ever need?

It's not integrity--it's Highway Robbery.

Robber Baronry, 21st century style.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

Junko:

Excellent as usual.

Love:

About the size of it, the goal of the GOP is similar to many right-wing movements, some sort of "Corporate State"


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon,Government jobs has been reduced on the state and federal levels. On the Federal level jobs has been reduced and there is a hiring freeze to reduce government spending. On the State level government jobs has been reduced by many Republican Governors rejecting federal funding for stimulas and healthcare spending, just to line up against the President. Now some of those Republican Governors has had a change on mind. Jon,my brother, The President can't push for jobs or anything else without "Revenue". This Hub is about Revenue, please reread, Fellow American.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

Why should the rich be in a higher tax bracket.

Isn't that discrimination, and unequal protection.

In no case are the rich paying less percent than the middle class or the poor who pay nothing.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Lover of chris, thank for the encouraging words. We are not blinded or confused by mis and dis information. All we can do is tell the truth as best we can to shine a light on the lies that are told daily.


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junko 3 years ago Author

TeaPartyCrasher, thanks for your service here on hubpages in exposing the Tea Party. Your handle express your mission..


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Bernie Sanders says 25% of the richest corporations pay no federal income tax.

According to GOP logic, that mean they pay o taxes!

Imagine that...billions in profit, and no taxes.

Because, you know....if a working person is too poor to pay federal tax, they always say: that moocher pays no taxes. (47%)

In America, we have wealthy moochers!


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MizBejabbers 3 years ago

Junko, I like your take on this. What gets me is that many of the ones with the wool over their eyes still haven’t seen the light. I’m just waiting to hear them squeal when these Republican cuts affect them. I think their greatest smoke screen is to demand that Obama create jobs when Republican conglomerates are the ones who sent the jobs to China, and he has no way to bring them back. In my state the irony is that we are getting a couple of new foreign-owned plants, including one from China. Our industry goes to China and theirs come over here. One could say that turn about is fair play, but might we be getting into a question of national security? Voted you up ++.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

"In an email, Koch brothers’ front group, Americans for Prosperity (AFP), sent congratulations to Republicans and their supporters around the country for helping push sequester cuts AFP says are “an important step forward for economic growth.” The email continued, “Americans for Prosperity thanks Speaker John Boehner and House Republicans for standing up to President Obama and making sure the $85 billion in much-needed sequester spending cuts took effect,” and it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Koch brothers and Republicans own the sequester and are giddy at the prospect of a recession and killing millions of jobs. One aspect of sequester cuts little mentioned is that the devastating $85 billion for 2013 is just the beginning of greater domestic spending cuts, devastating effects on anti-poverty programs, Medicare, and without cessation, the end of recovery."

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/the-koch-bro...

Full e-mail is here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/04/americans...

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Can we now stop the charade that this is "Obama's sequester"?


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junko 3 years ago Author

@ ib radmaster, You are smart enough to know that even the poor has to pay taxes. I also think you know that the poor and unemployed have no income to pay Federal income tax. What you have posted here qualify as mis and dis information. If 2% of Americans own over 90% of the wealth in America where should the Government seek tax revenue? The poor don't have any wealth. The unemployed and retired elders have no wealth. The revenue needed to run the country is piled up on Wall Street and in million and billionaires accounts. I guess you didn't have anything constructive to say or couldn't post anything positive about a liberal's hub in public. I understand, ib


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junko 3 years ago Author

MizBejabbers, If you like my take on this, I feel this is a good read. Thanks for stopping by and talking about this and encouraging me to write on.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

Junko

JUST ANOTHER SIDE unknown to many. ''This Hub is about Revenue, ''The government has recouped $342 billion out of $411 billion Tarp funds. The President should propose taking the $ 85 billion from the repayment, why doesn't he do it? The House passed a bill to allow him to decide as to what would be cut, the Senate killed the bill.

The House passed a bill to STOP SEQUESTRATION. Senator Reid would not allow a vote.

Crisis ‘’Cut, Cap and Balance ‘

http://hubpages.com/politics/PRESIDENTBARACKOBAMA-...

2/25/13 Sequester - The Three Things you need to know

http://www.gop.gov/sequester/

President Obama’s Fiscal Cliff Plan “Balance” not true

http://www.speaker.gov/general/president-obama-s-f...

The solution is SIMPLE, cut WASTE inside Washington first and follow Pay-Go law, something the other side refuses to do.The Presidents speech sounded great.

FISCAL CLIFF, why? 2/13/10 Pay Go Law

The President lied? Just follow the LAW

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/health/policy/ga

Obama’s Deficit Dodge

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-do...

GOVERNMENT WASTE, the past 5 years, the Social Security Trust fund has paid $400 billion to dead federal employees.

A LOT OF LOSS REVENUE that the Obama Administration needed to make up for the $85 billion.

Wake up and find the true facts.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon Ewall( The Suit), I hope you will wake up and find true facts and stop looking at and passing out right wing blog links without ever looking left. You keep going around in a right circle and you get facts mixed up with mis and dis information. I don't believe you can handle the truth, but you are still my fellow American. If you will , please reread this hub and give me your opinion and no links of other people's opinions of truth and facts. You have a right to have an opinion and a right to be be wrong, what is your opinion, my friend?


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

My comment

Why should the rich be in a higher tax bracket.

Isn't that discrimination, and unequal protection.

In no case are the rich paying less percent than the middle class or the poor who pay nothing.

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Your response

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@ ib radmaster, You are smart enough to know that even the poor has to pay taxes.

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First, my intelligence is not in issue, and the poor don't pay income tax.

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I also think you know that the poor and unemployed have no income to pay Federal income tax. What you have posted here qualify as mis and dis information.

ib-------

The poor and the unemployed are not equal.

This is no misinformation, nor disinformation.

As I never mentioned unemployed. you did.

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If 2% of Americans own over 90% of the wealth in America where should the Government seek tax revenue?

ib-----------------

That is not the problem of the people.

The government is not a church where the rich parishioners pick up the tab.

The real problem is the Income Tax System, it is unfair, it discriminates, and it invades personal privacy, and violates your fifth amendment rights.

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The poor don't have any wealth.

ib-----------------

That is a function of the economy, and this economy has made many people poor, and homeless. The economy never recovered and the financial institutions that were a major part of the collapsed economy was bailed out by the government. And these institutions refused to help the people that they stuck with the bad loans.

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The unemployed and retired elders have no wealth.

ib-------------------

There you go making an illogical comparisons.

There is no data that supports your statement. Many unemployed people are not destitute, and that goes for retired elders, especially the one enjoying a healthy government pension.

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The revenue needed to run the country is piled up on Wall Street and in million and billionaires accounts.

ib------

The people don't need to pay for an obese federal government, especially one that doesn't work. The government created the huge National Debt that continues to grow larger. The rich people of Wall Street got their legally, and it was the government that got them their privileges. It is not their fault that they got rich, and their wealth is not that of the King.

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I guess you didn't have anything constructive to say or couldn't post anything positive about a liberal's hub in public. I understand, ib

ib-------------------

You haven't put anything in your hub or your comment that is anything positive to agree with here.

At the top of this comment is my previous comment which you failed to address with any compelling arguments.

I think that both political parties are the problem, but the bigger problem are the blind loyal party voters. You might find something interesting in my hubs. While I am neither left or right, I do think that the actions, and inactions of the left are more serious than those of the right.

When people start attacking the person instead of the arguments, it is a sure sign that they have no compelling arguments.


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junko 3 years ago Author

@ ib, the simple and compelling answers to your comment is No, its not discrimination. I have known discrimination and unequal protection. The simple fact is you can't get pee from a tree. Thats why the rich SHOULD be in a higher tax bracket, because they have more money than the poor and the working poor.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

"@ ib, the simple and compelling answers to your comment is No, its not discrimination. I have known discrimination and unequal protection. The simple fact is you can't get pee from a tree.

ib---------------

This was a simple answer but it is not compelling. It is still discrimination to go after people and put them in a bracket, and it is not justified just because that is the way that the government wants to get revenue.

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Thats why the rich SHOULD be in a higher tax bracket, because they have more money than the poor and the working poor."

ib-----------------

How is that a compelling argument to single out people simply for revenue. If everyone pays the same percent, then the rich will still pay more simply based on their higher income. But when they are taxed at a higher rate, then they are being exploited.

The federal government needs to work within the wealth of its country, a country where all people are deemed to be equal. The US Income Tax System is the core of the problem of inequality. I have already mentioned my position in my previous comments.

You didn't make any arguments on most of it.

Every eligible person in the US gets only one vote, and it doesn't matter whether they are rich or poor or in between. Yet, the government wants the rich and the middle to pay for the poor while not getting any more say in the country.

A National Sales Tax would be much fairer, and it would be less intrusive of personal privacy. The bottom line is still that the government cannot keep expanding and getting into areas which should be the domain of the private sector.

If you want to look at an unnecessary cost of government, it is the cost of government employees. They get job security, good salaries, great and expensive benefits, as well as excellent pensions. Much of this is paid for by the taxpayers. Most of the employees in the private sector have none of these benefits. When the economy collapsed in 2008, many people lost their jobs, much of their 401k investments, their homes, while the federal government employees were virtually untouched. To the government employee, there was no economic collapse. They even continued to get cost of living increases, and raises.

The government is obese and it needs to slim down, and also narrow its scope of what it does in the country. The federal government has for the last several decades slowly acquired the scope which is rightfully that of the states, and made it federal. If this continues, then there will be no need for having states, as all the power will go to the federal government.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

Junko

The links are all facts, if any are incorrect, please point them out. I will respond to them ASAP

THE SUIT!

3/3/13 Meet the Press David Gregory

http://www.yidio.com/show/nbc-meet-the-press/seaso...

Speaker Boehner interview.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Here's how I feel about it:

Since Reagan, this country's gvt has catered to rich people. They have allowed people to skip out on taxes, pay paltry amount of taxes, pay no taxes at all! Very rich people. Corporations. Banks were allowed to crash the economy and take a tax-payer funded bail-out, which they then used to give bonuses to the crooks who crashed the economy!

Any attempt at balancing the books is met with cries of "socialism", "communism,".."Nazi"....

Anything to derail the people getting back the money the upper tiers have been given...BY the gvt!

Tax policy, Tax policy, Deregulation fever.

Gvt made the policies that these people got rich off of.

Gvt can reverse those policies and give it back to those who'se hard work makes the profits.

All this talk of poor rich people....give me a break.

The same justification was given for owning slaves, wives and children.

It is high time and past time that this place live up to it's rhetoric:

When 1% own 40% of the wealth of a nation: that is not liberty and justice for all...that is Grand Theft.

I for one, refuse to high-five it so some can feel justified in it.

*****

Oh, and MTP has long since turned RW, as has CNN...surprised you haven't noticed.....


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junko 3 years ago Author

ib, is it compelling that we agree with each others post or that we engage in constructive dialog, because "iron sharpens iron"? I don't expect you to totally agree with me, just to respect my right to be wrong. Our opinions are simular and like, but our solutions to the problems differ. You think the poor should give more and I think the wealthy should give more,it is possible we both are right. All Americans should do whatever it takes to keep this boat afloat, all hand on deck because if the ship sinks we all will go under.water. I hear what you say ib,so hear me also and lets together work to change some law maker, We need jobs in America,that would solve so many problems, public spending will replace government spending and the national debt will be cut because more people will take care of themselves.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

"ib, is it compelling that we agree with each others post or that we engage in constructive dialog, because "iron sharpens iron"? I don't expect you to totally agree with me, just to respect my right to be wrong.

ib--------

filler

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Our opinions are simular and like, but our solutions to the problems differ. You think the poor should give more and I think the wealthy should give more,it is possible we both are right.

ib---------

I think that all the people should be taxed equally, and under the Income Tax System there should be only one tax bracket.

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All Americans should do whatever it takes to keep this boat afloat, all hand on deck because if the ship sinks we all will go under.water. I hear what you say ib,so hear me also and lets together work to change some law maker,

ib-------------

The government boat is too large for the country to keep it afloat.

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We need jobs in America,that would solve so many problems, public spending will replace government spending and the national debt will be cut because more people will take care of themselves."

ib----------

This didn't happen during the last four years, why would it happen during the next four years.

During the last one hundred years, the US has been either Red or Blue, and neither of them moved the country forward. They just moved it to the left or the right and sometimes like today, backwards.

The country needs to go into shades of purple, and the only way to do that is to have the blind loyal party voters look at all the candidates from both parties. The voters also need to not vote for long term incumbents, especially when the condition of the country is so weak.

I just don't think that Obama has any answers. He ignored the economy and the jobs in his first four years, and now he is playing games with his sequester. Letting 5,000 illegal aliens go is criminal. How much money was spent on capturing them, and how many of them were criminals or drug or gun runners? Now do we continue to capture people illegally crossing our borders or not?

I appreciated your offer of a common goal.


Sheep 3 years ago

Great truths:

Everyone of us have the right to something, but having read all the above comments asa leader you are not one if you don't have followers. The republican party know this and that is the game which is played everyday. It's call the "BLOCK"and the Americans are getting tired of this system and if they continue with the "BLOCK" this same system will "BLOCK" them out of government all together! You can bet on that.


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Prakash Dighe 3 years ago from Dallas, Texas, USA

I have noted that people in virtually all other countries do not make such a big deal of paying more taxes, than we Americans. I have lived in other countries and even though everyone complains when it comes to paying more taxes, they eventually accept tax increases more willingly than us. Well, maybe that's one more reason why Americans are different. But there are reasons when more revenue is required and I have written a Hub on why we need at times to willing to pay more taxes.

But you have made quite an in-depth analysis of the current stalemate, and I concur with a lot that you have said. Voted up!


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon I stopped, looked,and listened.again to Boehner. I think he spoke a lot of Republican-Teaparty Hogwash I won't call him a liar. To insist on dealing with the so called spending problem during a recession makes no economic sense, it's insane.To defund a Presidency during a recession or a anytime is a risky political ploy. The President has been forced to deal with government spending and tax reform, now the Republican house and senate says "No deals". Well Suit I checked it out as you requested and I think this hub i wrote is the truth and nothing but the truth. What I saw and heard from Boehner was mis and dis information aimed at low informationed viewers you and I know what Republicans have really been doing since Obama was first elected President.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Chris lover, it would not be so bad if all who could gave a little more, but those who can don't want to pay nothing. Selfishness and greed has caused a nation of able to declare an economic war on their disable and their own National Government. They want to deny their Government the ability to help them if they ever need help. "Stop Fraud not Revenue" You are always welcome and invited to express your feeling, thanks for doing it here.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thanks for stopping by and talking sheep. Its time to join hubpages, c'mon.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Maybe you should write a hub on two US billionaires who have paid their legal amount of taxes, but then decide to give tens of billions of their money to people in Africa.

They made their money in the US, but feel they must give it away to a foreign country.

Doesn't charity begin at home?


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

I meant that you could.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Yes I can ib, I can write about more than two Black Billionaires who paid their fair share of US taxes for the income made worldwide. Oprah is one African American Billionaire that supports the Mother Land the others are Africans borned in the Mother Land. There should be many other billionaires who support the Mother Land since all mankind came from Africa. I know many more millions of billions were taken from Africa than donated. What doe's that have to do with Revenue for the Obama Presidency, ib radmasters? Yes Charity should begin a home, but not the home of MAN.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

''We need jobs in America,that would solve so many problems,''Finally someone recognizes the solution to the revenue problems.Obama sometimes will talk about jobs, what has he done to lower the unemployment numbers? STIMULUS,$1 trillion spent, much of it waste.Obama's friends on wallstreet making money hand over fist, the President hasn't complained about the DOW profits, wonder why?

‘’ Back In Black’’ $9 trillion

The House passed their 2012 budget in Feb as require by House rules.

Where are the jobs? Check this site. http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

CUT WASTE PART 1-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVJ2gqqKWs

THE TRUTH WAKE UP! Cheat History

Pay Go Law

The President lied? Just follow the LAW

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&...

Barak Obama Campaign Promises

http://hubpages.com/politics/barakobamacampaignpro...

Is there anyone in hubland have an answer ?


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

''I Heard that the President want more Revenue to Spend''GOVERNMENT WASTE, the past 5 years, the Social Security Trust fund has paid $400 billion to dead federal employees.

TARP FUNDS,The government has recouped $342 billion out of $411 billion .

TARP PAYBACK FUNDS

McCarthy Joins Colleagues Asking Administration to Clarify Contradictory TARP Repayment Plans

http://kevinmccarthy.house.gov/index.php?option=co...

Monies repaid were to pay down the deficit.Obama needs to tell Congress , where are the funds, why hasn't the money paid down the deficits ?America needs to wake up to the transparency that was promised 4 years ago.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

lol....just saw this comment on a hub questioning Bush:

"just goes to show how dishonest liberals are, We conservatives know beyond a shadow of doubt this wasn't done by our president, the fact you libs are so distrusting only proves you live dishonest lives!"

I wunder if that means those who question Obama are living dishonest lives?

Ya think? Nahhhhh. Only works one way. ;-)

New story just out: Gvt wasted billions rebuilding Iraq....now why were we there?? oh yeah......

Stop taking from poor people! There is so much at the top---you could take 3/4 of it, and they wouldn't feel it for 100 yrs.

Do you understand that one man has a worth of 21.5 billion?

And the R's want to cut social security!!


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Boehner..."If the president's going to insist on tax hikes"......

Hello! He won the election! This is what we the people want!

Will the R's ever ever stop obstructing?

Who the H do they work for anyway?


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

STILL agency and judicial appointments being blocked by R's....Gitmo. Now. Traitors and insurrectionists. (tpcrasher)


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junko 3 years ago Author

Prakash, I have never lived in another country. I thank you for your prespective and I'm honored that you stopped by to agree with me. My eye sight allow me to look at the screen for only short times and I was trying to sharpen iron yesterday. Thank you and come again.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon I am glad we finally can agree on the fact that jobs for the unemployed can help the Nation's debt problems.We need more agreement among lawmaker on Capitol Hill, hope is still alive. United we stand divided we fall, bottom line.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

lovemychris

''This is what we the people want!' ''going to insist on tax hikes"......'' Obama got his tax hikes with passage of the fiscal cliff bill. The people did not get government cuts in the bill. Another violation of the PAY GO LAW.FISCAL CLIFF, why? 2/13/10 Pay Go Law

The President lied? Just follow the LAW

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&...

1/20/13http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/paygo_description/

Just how of the new taxes will reduce the deficits or find the people new jobs?

Obama’s Deficit Dodge

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/09/obamas-deficit-do... government will end

http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/

GOVERNMENT WASTE, the past 5 years, the Social Security Trust fund has paid $400 billion to dead federal employees.

AMEN!


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, I think the word is redundant, correct me if Iam wrong.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

You are a perfect gentleman.lovemychris, has a problem with keeping an open mind as to what is occuring in the country. The economy will move when people are back to work and tax rates are lower for all, for all!


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Letting the Bush cuts expire is not a tax hike. That was supposed to happen after 10 yrs anyway, and they got a year's extension of it by blackmail. (do cuts, or we don't fund unemployment)...remember?

And I do not believe at all that silly statement that lower taxes help the economy.

We have proof that it does not. Economy was good with Clinton taxes, not Bush's.

And if R's want jobs jobs jobs...where are they??? They got elected promising them, and once they got in, all they did was go after abortion.

These Richistans need to pay the same taxes as averybody else...no more special favors from gvt.

And, I see 2 legislators have a plan to raise the cap on FICA to $250,000. That will help too.

And, frankly, I have 0 desire to listen to R's, because I was called anti-American for not supporting Bush, and now am called anti-American for supporting Obama.

The only way to be an American is to be Republican?

No thanks, I'll keep that dross out of my mind. Bushco was enough horror show for a lifetime.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

@PirateWench

Dear Corporate America: If you can afford to buy a senator, you don't need a tax break.

*******

ps wench: That's why they get them!! ;-)


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junko 3 years ago Author

ib radmasters, you go way out in right field and ask about billionaires, then you shy away when I answer. What's up with that??? Your point was..??


Sanxuary 3 years ago

Make corporate America pay its taxes, close all loop holes and destroy off shore accounts then you will be doing the right thing. Right now its just a bunch of rich people pitching a fit and trying to convince the poor that they can make them suffer more by forcing the sequesters. I say fight back by forcing them to pay the taxes they do not pay now. When I say do not pay try 0 taxes and we are talking the largest corporations in America and many our the ones we bailed out. If Americans need someone to blame it is Corporate America.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

I didn't see any answers!

My last Comment

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"Maybe you should write a hub on two US billionaires who have paid their legal amount of taxes, but then decide to give tens of billions of their money to people in Africa.

They made their money in the US, but feel they must give it away to a foreign country.

Doesn't charity begin at home?"


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junko 3 years ago Author

IB RADMASTERS! Where are you now? You came from way out of right field with a billionaire tax and spend question, when I answered you shyed away. What up with that? Did I answer correctly or was the question just another walk or drive by question? Don't be shy reply, it's worth discussion.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

lovemychris

''Letting the Bush cuts expire is not a tax hike''The Bush tax cuts were rates, the cuts occured in 2001 and 2003.Obama and company passed a rate increase on CERTAIN CITIZENS which now taxes are higher, a TAX INCREASE. That is the FACTS.

YOU CAN BELIEVE what some people tell you sometimes but logic does have a place in society!


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junko 3 years ago Author

Sanxuary, Thanks for stopping by and talking. Unregulated Capitalism allows uncontroled perpetual price hikes in the last 60 years with perpetual tax cuts and monopolies allowed Capitalist. The result is Federal debts and inability of average Americans to afford to pay to live without the help of State and Federals Governments. There has been over the last 30 years a serious redistribution of wealth from the Public to the Private sector. Taxes and revenues is the only way the American people can share in the richies of this Nation.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

Restate your answer, I don't see any from you


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Yes, FICA taxes were "raised, when the "holiday" let go....But I don't think Mitt Romney had a tax increase...I think they still have the carried interest loophole, which this whole sequester debate is about:

You know, shared sacrifice?

Truth be told, the rich have 11 years of sacrifice due the American people...that's how long they have had their gift from the gvt.

And it didn't result in jobs, or trickle-down wealth, or anything else for that matter, all it helped were the Swiss banks, where the thiefs stashed the loot...to avoid paying taxes on it.

They keep saying they are victims. I would like to know how.

Look at any chart from 2000-now, and you can see plain as day who the benefactors of gvt policy are.

Obama tries to give just a little back to the invisible people, and look what happens.

Sanxuary is 100% correct.

This is America, not Las Vegas. The game may be rigged, but we are onto it!!


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

The rich tax bracket was never less then the other tax brackets.

So they don't owe us anything.

I you want a change then you need to have the Income Tax abolished, it is unfair, to invasive of personal privacy, and is more important then your 5th amendment rights.

The other problem is the size and scope of the Federal Government keeps increasing and that requires more taxes, and the government employees are expensive to keep. They make good salaries, have great benefits, and excellent pension plans.

These government employees are the ones that you should focus on with who is getting away with anything.

They are.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

JUNKO

'' inability of average Americans to afford to pay to live without the help of State and Federals ''If you are looking for government to help and take care of you, you need to pack up and go to a communist country.

When 47% don't pay federal taxes, the burden should not be put on the middle class and the so called rich.REVENUE IS ALL ABOUT JOBS,something Obama promised if elected in 2008.Barak Obama Campaign Promises

http://jon-ewall.hubpages.com/hub/barakobamacampai...

2009,2010,2011, 2012, http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

jan. 2009 unemployment 7.6%, today 2013 7.7%

4 years of promises, he hasn't done the job! Face the true facts, no distortions or lies!


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Nathan Orf 3 years ago from Virginia

Junko,

Good hub here. I have a few disagreements, but I am with you concerning tax revenue. I just don't understand what Republicans dislike about increasing revenue for the government. But I will bet that it has something to do with their fight against entitlements.

Voted up.


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Nathan Orf 3 years ago from Virginia

ib,

I'm not really understanding your argument that targeting the millionaires and billionaires (I'll just call them the ultra-wealthy from here on out) for higher taxes is discrimination.

Sure, one could argue that targeting a specific group because of the traits that distinguishes them is discrimination. But I find it rather disingenuous to associate high taxes for the rich with racial discrimination. Perhaps you could be a bit more clear on that point?

Here's why the ultra-wealthy should have higher taxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM.

It seems to me that when the vast majority of the nations wealth is held in the hands, pockets and interests of a relative few, it makes sense to place higher taxes on them. That would help increase revenue. Said revenue could be spent on infrastructure, education, improving communications systems, improving access to health care...

All of those things, in their turn, contributes to increased wealth and productivity. In the end, the ultra-wealthy benefit as much as the poor and working class.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

Nathan Orf

'' In the end, the ultra-wealthy benefit as much as the poor and working class.''The government taking more money from the so called rich will hurt the poor.Government taking money to help the poor is a wonderful thing?.The so called rich give money to the poor of their choice.

http://www.foxbusiness.com/government/2012/09/21/r...

http://giancarlolorenzo.hubpages.com/question/1913...

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_31606...

It's all, all about jobs. poor people, middle class people in general don't give jobs.The rich making profits are the ones who give jobs.Taking more and more from the rich don't create jobs.Government needs to cut waste and follow PAY GO LAW.

Pay Go Law

The President lied? Just follow the LAW

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&...

PART 1-2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVJ2gqqKWs

GOVERNMENT WASTE, the past 5 years, the Social Security Trust fund has paid $400 billion to dead federal employees.

MORE REDUNDANCY,please excuse


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Nathan

"I'm not really understanding your argument that targeting the millionaires and billionaires (I'll just call them the ultra-wealthy from here on out) for higher taxes is discrimination.

ib======

If everyone is not paying the same rate, then it is discrimination.

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Sure, one could argue that targeting a specific group because of the traits that distinguishes them is discrimination. But I find it rather disingenuous to associate high taxes for the rich with racial discrimination. Perhaps you could be a bit more clear on that point?

ib---------------

Where did I say anything about racial discrimination?

Discrimination is when you don't get treated equally.

Tax Brackets is discrimination.

There is no duty for the rich to take care of the poor, and I don't know where the idea arose that the rich are paying less than there fair share. They are paying more because they are in a higher tax bracket.

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Here's why the ultra-wealthy should have higher taxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM.

It seems to me that when the vast majority of the nations wealth is held in the hands, pockets and interests of a relative few, it makes sense to place higher taxes on them.

ib-----------

Thai is discrimination and unequal protection.

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That would help increase revenue. Said revenue could be spent on infrastructure, education, improving communications systems, improving access to health care...

ib---------------

The federal government has usurped the duties of the states, and they have increased their size and scope and they need to cut back and give the powers back to the states.

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All of those things, in their turn, contributes to increased wealth and productivity. In the end, the ultra-wealthy benefit as much as the poor and working class."

ib---------------

No it doesn't, the more money that the federal government gets, the more it spends. And it didn't spend that money on the areas that you mentioned above.

=--------------

Nathan

The problem with the country that needs to be fixed is the Income Tax System. It is unfair, it is complicated, it changes every year, it is invasive of personal privacy, and nullifies the 5th Amendment.

The country needs to get its economy back, and the good paying jobs that were lost, and then the people wouldn't need to have the government pay their parents.

BTW, the rich have never had a lower tax bracket, they are the top tax bracket, so how is that they didn't pay their fair share?

000000000000000000


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

The reasont they GOT all that wealth is BECAUSE of the Bush tax cuts!

They can darn well give it back.

I mean, R's don't mind raising taxes on poor people...only the rich.

"Assembly Minority Leader Peter Barca, D-Kenosha, criticized the governor for failing to target the poorest residents with his income tax cut. He noted that low-income workers were the only ones who saw a tax increase in the last budget when Walker and legislative Republicans reduced the Earned Income Tax Credit.

"Last budget, make no mistake about it, the governor raised taxes on those that most needed help," Barca said. "And people that work 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, that are struggling to get into the middle class — that’s who definitely need help the most — and it helps the economy the most."

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Low income workers were ONLY ones who saw tax increases.....

Cut programs that help poor and elderly survive....SO THAT uber rich can have more!

It's not only immoral, but stupid.

When people have no money to spend.....economy dries up.

What do you R's want?

A society which keeps the wealthy in excess, and the rest of us struggling to eat?

What good is that for anyone?


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

"In my day, confronted with such disparity in the distribution of income and wealth, a disparity that obviously poses a dramatic problem for economic policy, political stability, and the macro management of the economy, Democrats would have demanded corrections, and Republicans would have reluctantly agreed.

But not today. Both political parties whore for money.

The Republicans believe that the suffering of poor Americans is not helping the rich enough. Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney are committed to abolishing every program that addresses needs of what Republicans deride as “useless eaters.”

The “useless eaters” are the working poor and the former middle class whose jobs were offshored so that corporate executives could receive multi-millions of dollars in performance pay compensation and their shareholders could make millions of dollars on capital gains. While a handful of executives enjoy yachts and Playboy playmates, tens of millions of Americans barely get by.

In political propaganda, the “useless eaters” are not merely a burden on society and the rich. They are leeches who force honest taxpayers to pay for their many hours of comfortable leisure enjoying life, watching sports events, and fishing in trout streams, while they push around their belongings in grocery baskets or sell their bodies for the next McDonald’s burger."

--Paul Craig Roberts...worked for Ronald Reagan.

http://economyincrisis.org/content/17174


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junko 3 years ago Author

ib radmasters..... " Maybe you should write a hub on two US Billionaireswho paid their legal amount of taxes, but then decides to give tens a billions of their money to people in Africa." You ask this of me 3 days ago and it is posted here. My reply is under your 2 request for a hub addressing that subject, roll back 3 days or so here, you will see all 3 posts. My post and comments the last few days have not appeared, but that post is displayed.


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

Why can't you just repeat it here instead of making it an archeology project?

There are too many comments to sort through.

If you have something than restate it here.

Thanks


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junko 3 years ago Author

Don' sweat it, ib


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junko 3 years ago Author

Nathan, you did hear radmasters blow that dog whistle. I have not heard the words discrimination and unequal treatment use by conservatives these days, since the civil rights movements by African Americans. He is slick about it too, he stick and move like he did me on a comment he made about billionaires giving billions to Afirica. Thanks for stopping by and talking...


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, you once wrote that you are a 24/7 caregiver. Do you or the patient depend on Government to help take care of y'all? If so, are there any plans to move to a communist country?


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

No plans to move out of our country, that thru the years I paid my fair share to the government for the 45+ years I worked,by the way,worked very hard to get ahead. NOPE, I am a non paid caregiver, my family comes first and whatever the problems, family ( members ) will take care of their own. The government has paid programs for caregiving. I SUPPORT ANY HELP THAT THE GOVERNMENT furnishes to the needy of our country who need help and assistance.

''depend on Government to help take care of y'all?'' Maybe you can explain the statement and/ or the intent of the reply?

Have a great day, CARE GIVING is a tough job.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

interesting tweet:

@ThomasRHart

"Fact: There is no capitalism. Proof? 4 companies control the coffee market. 5 companies the oil market. 5 companies the intl. media market."

banks control public policy??


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

"They want a huge U.S. government to finance scientific breakthroughs, educate the future workforce, sustain the infrastructure and provide for law and order on the home front, but they just don’t feel they should have to pay for a system of governance, even though it primarily serves their corporate interests. The U.S. government exists primarily to make the world safe for multinational corporations, but those firms feel no obligation to pay for that protection in return."

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/its_good_to_be...

And, to your Hub,

"After getting to tax less than 2% of the wealthy a month or less ago, the President wants to cut tax loopholes for all wealthy people and Corporations."

********

Sounds very reasonable to me....

Tea Publicans say no. Some patriots :-(


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ib radmasters 3 years ago from Southern California

Junko

I guess you really didn't have anything important, otherwise you would have restated it.

Bye

You can always comment on my hubs

Have a great day


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junko 3 years ago Author

Yes Jon, caregiving is a tough and costly job. You commented to me that if I need Government to help take care of me, I should move to a communist country. I then thought about you being a 24/7 caregiver and I wondered if you were having trouble with this government with your costly task.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Lover of Chris, reasonability is not a trait of lawmakers who want to be unreasonable.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

No kidding. They need to be ignored honestly....

If they don't want to govern, let's not force them to.

They obviously have better things to do:

Like pretend they won the election.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

''if I need Government to help take care of me, I should move to a communist country'' Never mentioned you as a specific, the meaning was a general term for those who EXPECT government to give one all that he needs.Today after 4 years of a Obama and Democrat controlled government , 1 in 6 americans are in poverty ,50 million on food stamps ,14 million out of work and no budget in 4 years. Something is wrong, BLAMING REPUBLICANS is somewhat disengenous, if you are a fair minded person. REVENUE is about JOBS.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, to blame President Obama and not Republican-teaparty far right wing obstructionist is disengenous of you. Revenue is not about jobs only among many other things its about money to help caregivers give care to those who needs care but can't hold a job. Its also about people like you who worked for 45 years and depend on Federal tax revenue for your retirement benefits. Don't speak with fork tongue, the President was forced to stop hiring government workers and not given any revenue for infrastructure jobs. The Republicans now are trying to shut down the US Postal Service which is where most minority Federal workers were able to inter the middle class. Fair minded person, don' blow that smoke my way, you know you don't care about the truth you just hate the President with passion.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

There is an old saying'' hatred breaths hatred'', I have never in my life hated anyone. The Lord said'' love thy neighbor as thyself'''.I know who the President is, what he stands for and how he functions.On the surface he is a wonderful man, he says wonderful things. The problem is that they are only words in many instances.People believe in him, that's each ones choice.I judge people not by what they say but by what they do.lies or truth?

http://www.gop.gov/sequester/

Love is in the eye of the beholder,a freedom we still have.

http://chicagoconsultant.com/page2.php?category=2&...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/paygo_description/

http://hubpages.com/politics/barakobamacampaignpro...

2/14/13

Having It All for Free: 19 Things Obama Says Won’t Add to Deficit 4years $6 trillion in deficits

President Barack Obama’s remarks on the sequester:

’create good, middle-class jobs. That’s our top priority.’’ ‘’the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction ‘’’’sequestration, are a bad idea.

jobs? Check this site. http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, I’ve told you how I feel about your slanted links offered as absolute truth. I feel you recycle mis and dis information like the link you placed on the bottom line of your comment denying your hatred of the President. This link is supposed to show 40 job creation bills passed by the House, but stuck in the Senate. The headline sounds good, but the substance is ridicules for a party that lost the elections to offer up or try to demand passage of bills that dismantle and obstruct the plans of the President. It is disingenuous of you to spread lies and claim no hate and no harm for liberals and liberal lovers. I don’t want you to use my hubs to spread lies in disguise of a comment. You are welcome to comment anytime but those lying links are not welcome, just as the House Trojan Horse job bills are not welcome in the Senate.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

''those lying links '' please discredit the links by proving them wrong, if you can't than stop stating that they are lies.

Sorry you can't handle the truth.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Hmmm,

deficit down, thanks to POOR PEOPLE!!!

"Two factors were at play behind the gain. The government received more revenue from higher payroll taxes as a temporary cut in payroll taxes expired at the end of 2012.

And there was a decline in tax refunds, likely the result of the delay in the tax filing system due to last-minute negotiations in early January between the White House and Congress to avert the “fiscal cliff.”

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Mittens and Shelly still have their carried interest gift from uncle sam.

2011:

"Rep. Kris Crawford, a Republican from Florence and also an emergency room doctor, supports the expansion of Medicaid in the ACA, but expects the Republican caucus to vote as a block against the Medicaid expansion.

“The politics are going to overwhelm the policy. It is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House right now, especially for the Republican Party,” Crawford said.

*****

Anything more to know?

It's BEEN obvious anyway to any sane eye......

Poor people, middle class deserve the breaks.--THEY have shouldered all the burden!

Racists in GOP refuse to govern because Obama is black.

E-NUFF.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, first let me thank you for not injecting any mis or dis-informationed links in your comment. Now... I can't prove that the link on the bottom line of your other comment is lies, but they are self evidently foolishness and D.O. A. bills and they knew it when they passed in the House. All of the bills the Republicans pass are a waste of time and stupid. Today they passed bills to stop the President from taking the work requirement out of Welfare and stopping the free phone program started by Reagan. All they have been doing in the last four years is wasting time and being redundant. If you could handle the truth, you would agree with me and the Republican Governor who called the GOP The Stupid Party.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

''Today they passed bills to stop the President from taking the work requirement out of Welfare ''WHAT WAS THE NUMBER OF THE BILL??

RIGHT NOW, I am listening to the house budget debate for the last 1/2 hr. the facts uncut and direct.

please listen RYAN HOUSE /budget HEARING 3/13/13

http://www.c-span.org/Events/House-Budget-Committe...

Note the difference in what is coming from the whitehouse and what you heard.


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junko 3 years ago Author

WASHINGTON — Renewing a political fight from last year's presidential campaign, House Republicans passed a bill Wednesday that would prevent the Obama administration from waiving work requirements in the landmark 1996 welfare reform law.

Republicans say President Barack Obama is trying to weaken work requirements in the law — a claim that is disputed by administration officials and Democrats in Congress. The bill passed on a mostly party-line vote of 246-181. Jon Ewall I don't know the number of the bill, but your understanding is bad about links. Drop links and think.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, I hope you are not a racist bigot that just hate the President because he is a Black man. I hope you read my hub and understand what I wrote and not to pick and choose where to disagree. I don't think you even read with understanding far right mis and dis information.I believe you and a few million other are blinded by hate that can cause this experiment to fail. The stupidity that is passed by Republicans lawmakers is ignored by you as you blindly attack The President day and night. I hope I am wrong about you Jon, but I'm most likely right about you.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Lover of Chris,can uncontrolled racism and capitalism destroy the most powerful Nation in the world today,before before uncontrolled spending? Without a doubt, in my opinion.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Well, that's the thing that gets me...Obama is NOT an uncontrolled spender!

He has spent less than ANY of the recent prez's. But he get smeared as a tax and spend liberal.

He has lowered the deficit, got Bin Laden, ended the Iraq war, ending the Afghan war, appointed R's to cabinet positions, bent over BACKWARDS to accomodate the LOSERS of TWO elections.......and these clowns refuse to meet him even 1/4 way!

Yes, racism and capitalism will destroy America.....IF we let it.

I say No more Bagger-Baby Bulloney.

Obama won: get over it....we have spent the last 5 years fighting the fact that Obama won the election!!

You don't like it? tuff nails.

You don't like tax increases? boohoo

We had to put up with 8 yrs of what I consider horror...and these babies don't share...even when they lose.

Time to grow up baggers.

YOU don't own America.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

you might like this junko....all in black and white

‏@existentialfish

Right-wing extremism, charted: http://twitpic.com/cbcpyi Full report: http://bit.ly/WKnCtU


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

lovemychris

''He has lowered the deficit'' Obama says that he has lowered the deficit $2.5 trillion. HOW DID HE DO THAT WHEN the national debt increases and yearly deficits of $1.2+ have occured in the last 4 years?

'' Right-wing extremism, charted:'' IN THE CHARTS, can you explain that from 2000-2008 ( Bush years) the groups were at the lowest?

Expreme left and extreme right are not in the best interest of the American people, CAN YOU AGREE.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

JUNKO

''I heard that President Obama wants more Revenue to Spend '' Senator Coburn found $9 trillion in government WASTE inside Washington.There is a lot of $$$ right in the administration and the government. It was reported that there are 312,000 federal employees owe the IRS ,$3.5 BILLION. In the Obama administration there are 40 staffers owing over $330,000.Another schocking statistic, 3.2% of federal employees are delinquent. Employees of the USPO ,22,000,OWE $216 MILLION.

Something is truly wrong in Washington.Shamefully, the people's house is still closed for tours of the Whitehouse.

RACISM and Hatred is, never has been, not a part of my repertoire..


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Of course...RW hate groups had no problem with Bush. Nor did the Oath Keepers!!

How they missed 9/11, Iraq, Torture, Lies, Outing a CIA agent, stalling 9/11 hearings, order to SHOOT DOWN AMERICAN PLANE.....Rand Paul??

Nope...they missed it all. Only came alive in 2009...how you like that?

*******

And, hate to tell you, but the Bush wars and Bush tax cuts are our main problems. You can blame Obama, I won't.

And if we took away Bush tax cuts sooner: we'd be WAY down in deficit.

Closing those uber wealthy tax give-away loop-holes would be another boost in deficit reduction.

And, I JUST read today: by the time Iraq Invasion totalled, it's 4 trillion and 100,000 deaths.

Unless you adress these issues, you really have no right to speak on Obama.

You don't get to strain at gnats and ignore the elephant walking around naked.

I know for a fact, if the Republicans had not been obstructing all these years, we would be soaring right now.

And, I JUST saw an article that criminal justice is being ground to a halt, because the R's refuse to let Obama's appointments go through.

This is way beyond dereliction of duty in my view.

5 yrs it's been: still acting like Obama never won the election.

They have nullified the votes of 51.2% of the American populace. Simply because they are sore losers, and act like they own everybody and everything.

Call Liberals free-loaders eh?

I think blue states should demand equal representation for taxation.

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I would like you to point out WHICH Democrats are extreme in Congress now. TY


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, there is no extreme left. The left is reasonable. Are you reasonable enough to agree with anything Chris or junko expressed? I think not. The President is not a big spender like Bush, because he has not had the Revenue The Decider had and the Republicans denied him a credit card because they are unreasonable. They are extreme conservatives. They don't need you to carry their water, but you do in spite of your station in life.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

To folks like Jon, anything that put anything ahead of profit is "extreme left"


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

I give John a lot of credit for engaing in debate though. 90% of the right on here just shut you out.

BUT....this is the crap that burns me up:

"Mr. Boehner said Republicans had already allowed $650 billion in new taxes and would not agree to more."

.....they "allowed" it???

I thought the goal was 4 trillion in reduction--that's what they were working towards?

So, you mean to say they think "allowing".....god, the superiority just kills me!....650 billion in revenues, vs 3 trillion 350 billion in cuts?

Are they kidding?

THIS my friends, IS THE PROBLEM!


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Walmart CEO Mike Duke makes approximately $11,000 an hour.


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junko 3 years ago Author

$11,000 an hour, yes unregulated capitalism and racism is the main reasons the American experiment is failing today. Its all because of selfishness and greed.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon Ewall, lovemychris is right you are a part of the talented 10% of Conservatives on hubpages that don't shy away from debate. I respect you for that and salute you. I will not call you a hater anymore, I believe you are just misguided, but a strong personality. Write on, but less links and more personality. 9 trillion in Government waste, thats interesting, maybe that can save the Union.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

3/14/13

For 2.5 hours I watched the Senate committee start the debate on the Senate's 2014 budget bill on C Span.The budget increases ( more spending ) the size of government increases 5%/ YEAR for 10 years, reduces the national debt 1.2 trilliion in 10 years.The $1.2 trillion, after questioning by the other side was reduced to $800billion. After further questioning it ended up at $400 billion savings in 10 years.PAY-GO AND THE 2010 BUDGET LIMITATION LAWS were ignored in the administration's calculations, sorry to say. The President was required per law to have presented his budget to Congress by Feb 4,2013, he has not delivered. The Constitution requires the President to submit his budget first to Congress. The House and the Senate than prepare and pass respective budgets after which Congress debates, amend and passes ( both houses)the /a bill. The President can sign the bill into law should he have no objection.

Does the President have any credibilty when he blames the other side?

to be continued


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

Just 2 more links to sort the facts.http://hubpages.com/politics/CongressAvertsANation... ‘’ Budget Control Act of 2011 ‘’

President Obama and Members of the 112th Congress Credit Rating

http://hubpages.com/politics/PresidentObamaandMemb...

hoping you get somthing out of the information, jon e


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Well, I'm just wondering WHY anyone has to kiss their butts anyway? Who died and made them God?

Obama is president, Senate is Dem. Things should go their way.

It certainly went Bush's way for 8 years.

Is Bush better than Obama?

Why this acting like the ONE branch that is tea partry gets to make all the rules, decide all the actions......why are we EVEN debating their positions??

Obama is president...he leads, Tea Bags follow. End if story.

And if you don't like it......

Harken back to 2000-2008.

Harken back to all the R people: "If you don't support the president, you don't support the troops."

"If you don't support the president, you are anti-American."

Follow your own rules.

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And John Ewall, you cannot look at "facts" without the context behind them.

This president has been lucky to get anything at all passed, with a bunch of obstructionist stopping him if he so much as sneezes.

But they are not only obstructing Obama, they are obstructing US!

I'm dam sick of it too.....

5 years.......fighting the fact that Obama is the Commander in Chief: Not Romney!

He can't even get positions filled in the gvt. That is affecting US. OUR kids, OUR families.

Honestly, I don't even read the things R's post: personally, I feel they deserve the same respect they showed me....which is 0.

Nothing new under the sun....

They want to decrease spending EXCEPT for the spending they like.

They always take money from the poor and middle class, and give it to the upper classes.

Nothing has ever changed, and it never will.

Oh , and they're anti-woman, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-black, anti- hispanic.......anti poor-white.

What do you want?

A plutochracy with wage slaves who say yessa nossa mr rich man.

Well: Obama is a rich man......why can't you say yessa to him???

OH...and they think Liberals are free-loaders. Remember how you R's got upset at "clinging to guns and god"?.......Marco Rubio: be prepared.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

"Ryan, the House Budget Committee chairman, unveiled his latest fiscal proposal on Tuesday, laying out $4.6 trillion in cuts over the next decade. The blueprint aims to balance the budget in 10 years by slashing Medicare, Medicaid and programs to aid the poor, including food stamps. Ryan's plan would also repeal President Barack Obama's health care reform law."

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errrrr, any mention of that carried interest loop-hole?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh

Rich get richer I am guessing. Par for da course.

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Dems aren't fooled. This is starve the beast, shrink the gvt. Began after New Deal.

age-old fight.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Serious questions:

1. Can we cut ALL the tax loop-holes the rich enjoy, and not have to cut any other spending at all? This includes all the corporate and banking cash-cows.

2. Can we implement a 1% Wall Street sales tax, and end poverty?

I believe we can.

And shouldn't we want to?


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

"The four largest behemoths, now ranging from $1.4 trillion to $2.3 trillion in assets, are the result of thirty-seven banks merging thirty-three times. In 1995, the six biggest US banks had assets equal to 18 percent of GDP. Today, they are about 63 percent of GDP.”

Banks and wars. the MIC and big pharma. And you REALLY think medicare, food stamps and "high" taxes are the problem?


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

sorry junko!! I promise, this is last one...

But here is the progressive Dems budget.

"For there to be a deal, the House Progressives don’t need to learn how to compromise, though their voting record over the last couple of years shows they’re willing to do it anyway. But the House Republicans do need to learn to compromise, and there’s not much evidence they’re there yet."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/20...


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, I believe the debt crissis is Republican-teaparty hogwash.The crissis was thought up as a political dirty bomb they could use on the first Black President, but not the first Woman President, so they hoped Obama and not Hillary won. This soapy drama has kept the American people on the edge of their sets for the last five years, but the rating has drop because of redundancy. This reality show no longer entertains ,its begining to cause way to much pain. The GOP should let it go and free the country, the economy ,and the people to grow. They and their supporters should go sit down somewhere and wait their turn.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

Bravo!


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thank you very much loverofChris, one word speaks volumes. March on.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

JUNKO

''

The GOP should let it go and free the country, the economy ,and the people to grow''

The last 2 years, the Republicans control 1/3rd of the government. Since 2007 the Democrats have controlled 2/3 's of the government. HOW IS IT THE REPUBLICANS FAULT.The leadership of our country is in the hands of the President. Yes , he won, in the US all he won was a leadership role and the final say in making LAW. By the way, laws that he signed, he completely ignors when he acts.Let's not forget 4 years ago Wake up America,

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/paygo_description/


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Leo Ham 3 years ago from earth

Junko,

This is a great article. Thank you for shining the light on many issues. I can count on you to make things clear.....


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thanks Leo, I can count on you for encouragement in everything I write and I am grateful for your kinship.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

Check this link, live ,uncut an un edited the true facts C-SPAN 3/13/13

RYAN HOUSE BUDGET HEARING

http://www.c-span.org/Events/House-Budget-Committe...

On Tuesday, House Budget Cmte. Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) and other GOP members on the budget


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thanks Jon you know how I feel about links, but this information can be good for reference when the talking heads return from another unearned recess. I know you don't agree with the Ryan Budget, do you? I think it was a waste of time to prepare and submit such extreme austerity and include the dismantling of The President's Healthcare law. It par for the course as for as talking loud and saying nothing redundantly for the last 4 years. Jon, can you tell me anything good about Chairman Ryan's Budget.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

'' can you tell me anything good about Chairman Ryan's Budget.'' It's being discussed in open forum and not behind closed doors as the President does on important legislation.


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junko 3 years ago Author

C'mon Jon, Grandstanding on stupid unexceptable proposals is not Good. I want to believe you are a reasonable man and what you propose isn't obstructionism. The President goes to and speak to the American people. Ryan stays behind closed door and speak only to the the far right conservatives and they all have no new ideas, so they openly repeat their bad ideas over and over. If you can, post what part of Ryan's budget you support. I know you understand what I an asking of you, if you can't find anything or any part you agree with I understand if you can't repond.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

Ryans budget is a part of the way CONGRESS works on a budget. The President, by law, was to have a 2014 budget presented to Congress by 2/04/13 , THE START OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. The President as of 4/4/13 has not presented a budget.He was in Colorado and Clifornia on wed campaiging for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY.Note that he is contributing 5% of his salary to the treasury to make up for SEQUESTION.His credibility is fading away .


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junko 3 years ago Author

As always my friend on the right, you refused to try to justify your reasoning. Your answer is no matter how rediculas the Ryan budget is, its on time. You can't say one good thing about the budget, all you can say is, no matter how dumb it is, its on time. When the President does offer a budget, I bet it will make sense. It will be rejected by you and the far right just as GITMO closing and trials, and Government job creation. What do you think would have happened if the President had to have Republican approval to kill Osama Bin Ladin? The President can't reason with or let unreasonable men know what his plans are, he will tell them when he tells the American people, as he did in The Bin Ladin Case. I still want you to tell me something good about the Ryan's Budget.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

The President and the Senate have yet to produce a budget in 4 years.The Republicans took over 1/3 of the government in 2011 and have passed a budget as required per the consitution. When and if the PRESIDENT or the Senate pass a budget so that a budget agreed to by all parties can proceed, my and your opinon doesn't matter as to any of the budgets.

Under the leadership of President Obama and a dysfunctional Senate we will continue on a downward path to SOCIALISM.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, you are 100% right, your's and my opinions don't matter about the President's, The House, or the Senate's budget bills. Communication is the key to passing budget bills. You and I cannot communicate publicly about The Ryan Budget. It seems that you are afraid if you debate the merits of The Ryan budget you may be primaried on hubpages. Are you afraid of being thought of as a liberal or liberal lover if you admit that Ryan's budget is a non-starter and of less value then the budgets not produced by The President and the Senate? You play down our opinions but always pass out links of other people's opinions. I value your opinion more then that of a stranger. Please tell me whats good about the only budget offered so far, again and again with less and less chance of passage.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

Junko

The links forwarded to your hub is to allow your readers more information than I could post in short form. OK, JUST FOR YOU. The Ryan budget does not change Medicare for 54 and over. I will not be around to worry about the future changes. The Ryan budget balances in 10 years, again I may not be around. Take the time to view and listen to the c-span live tapes. Both sides ( all on committee have an opportunity to speak ),THAT'S HOW CONGRESS IS SUPPOSE TO WORK.

3/13/13 RYAN’S BUDGET ( SEE ABOVE LINK ) 3/15/13 Senate Budget committee hearing

Democrat Senate budget amendment meeting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGh7SITdqw&feature...

On 3/15/13 I viewed the whole meeting, today the tape has been cut to 2 voting amendments. Wondering why today (4/04/13) the whole tape is not shown. Censorship?

Watching a live debate can be revealing as to what truly is happening in Congress.


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TeaPartyCrasher 3 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

Junko:

Keep up the "Crashing"


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thanks TPC, I take your request as a compliment and encouragement coming from you.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, that was a good attempt to find something good about The Ryan Budget. I respect your willingness to engage in communication, I would hope you also check out left leaning programs to keep your thoughts in balance. I often watch Foxnews along with MSNBC. We may not be here 10 years from now, but we may have have 20 or 30 more years to go. If we live I hope we will have no guilts or regrets for thing we supported at this time in space.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN OUR GOVERNMENT.The House and the Senate passed a budget.The President leaked parts of his budget that he will present to Congress on 4/10/13. Now after 4 years of the 2/3rd Democrat control of the government, the budgets can be debated, amended and passed hopefully with a President signing it into law.The President promised a transparent government.Will the debate be as he promissed, live,uncut and unedited by the mainstream media and whitehouse.gov?


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junko 3 years ago Author

Yes Jon, it is good all three houses has submitted a budget. Now a compromise must be reached. Since the President won relection by a small majority, the Republicans can't hope have their way being the minority party in 2 out of three house


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

4/08/13, the President has not submitted his WRITTEN budget to Congress as yet, sad to say that he ignors the requirement of the Constitution.

3/21/13

House and Senate budget proposals compare?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/how-do-house-and-se...

Senate Democratic and House Republican budget proposals The President continues to distort the facts.


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junko 3 years ago Author

The President has leaked the meat of what he wants and will ask for when he submit his budget. As usual all Republicans and some Blue dog Democrats, Dixiecrats, and yellow Democrats have come together to obstruct. the President's plans. The same group of Republicans and Democrats have joined forces against the President's plans to enact Gun Controls Laws. Yes, my friend "facts has been distorted", but that's par for the games being played on the President.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

Looking forward to CONGRESS debating the two plus one budgets. Try to catch the debate on C- SPAN, live, uncut and not edited.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, I also will look forward to catch the budget debate on C-SPAN. I will also hope you alert me or sent me a link. Yes, I am requesting a LINK. I don't usually watch c-span but this will be interesting.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

The President is suppose to submit his budget to Congress on the tenth.The news medias are talking about what's in it. Same old stuff with some changes that sound very interesting.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Jon, What new changes in the President's budget sounds very interesting. Are you talking about changes in cost of living calulation in Social Security and reductions in social programs. If so, that's not new offers in compromise. Anyway, I'm looking to find something about the Republican's rejections of his budget plan on C-SPAN today.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

It will never get through....Obama 's budget ends the carried interest loop-hole.....

Never will the Teabaglicans let the poor, harried, suffering billionaires be touched.

call the waaaaambulance.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Lover of Chris, no doubt you are right, it will never get through because if it does jobs and an improved economy will be the result. The Republicanteaparty's job is still to obstruct the President. That mean "If the president is for it, they are against it". The Graveyard love the conservatives have for America will bury millions of American people along with the Republican Party. They have went too far right too long to to turn arouind. The Nation is the victim of redistricting for the immediate future.


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lovemychris 3 years ago from Cape Cod, USA

You should read this junko.

Why we must fight to the death against the fascists http://bit.ly/10O5MVC

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I do believe a fellow hubber here has 1st hand knowledge of this.

And also, you can google Operation Gladio.

It's all the same force. For no good.

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I do not believe Obama is a fascist, but the TP, and sundry forces....no doubt.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

junko

Here's all I have for now.

Friday, 12 April 2013

Obama's 2014 Budget Proposal

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/15094-ob...

4/18/13

Bowles and Simpson offer a modified budget plan

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57580377/bowle...

3/21/13

House and Senate budget proposals compare?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/how-do-house-and-se...

Senate Democratic and House Republican budget proposals.

Will try to keep you informed. Whitehouse.gov has a different version as always, a little slanted to the left.


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junko 3 years ago Author

Thanks Jon, I must examine these links and meditate.


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JON EWALL 3 years ago from usa

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''meditate.'' A FANCY WORD FOR GETTING IN THE '' KNOW''

The President's 2014 budget was delivered today 4/26/13, to CONGRESS. NOW THAT IT IS WRITING THE BUDGET BATTLE CAN START.

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