INDEPENDENT VOTERS, WHAT SAY YOU NOW? Are You Happy With The Outcome of 2010 and 2012? [147*7/2]

CURIOUS MINDS REALLY WANT TO KNOW

INDEPENDENT VOTERS, LEFT-LEANING OR RIGHT-LEANING, this hub is still about you, even though I wrote for the 2012 Presidential election. Unfortunately, it is still appropriate for the 2014 Midterm elections as well. As before, I am not here to excoriate the Conservatives, I have done that too many times in other hubs. Nor am I here to bemoan you choices in 2010 and 2012; although I am here to ask a couple of questions about them.

I will attempt to be as neutral as possible in order to get your full cooperation at the end of this piece. There is no question, I believe, in anybody's mind that it was the independent voters, in 2010, that brought a sea-change to the political scene on Capital Hill. Congress went from being overwhelmingly Democratic with the Democrats holding a slim super-majority in the Senate to the Republicans, especially the Tea Party taking firm control of the House of Representatives and the Democrats barely keeping hold in the Senate. Likewise, it was the Independent voter who kept it that way in 2012, although many of you reconsidered what you had done and brought back many Democrats into office.

There is no doubt you were upset about a lot of things and you wanted change, and change you got. The Democrats have one idea of what pissed you off and the conservatives another, I have my own, but none of it matters much, you were ... and still are but maybe about different things now. The question is, are the Democrats still going to pay a heavy price for it.

The question I have, and I think it is a very important question and even more relevant today than it was two years ago, is: "Do you think your decision worked out the way you thought it would?" "Did the people you put in office do the things you put them in office to do?" And, the most important of all, "Are you going to put them in office again?"

In the next section, I am going to basically list some of the major proposals that got passed or were killed by either the Democrats or the Republicans over the last 18 months. Then I will put forward a few polls, just for Independents or others who are going to change their vote in 2014 from the way they voted in 2012. Since very few voted in the previous poll, I will just let those votes stand.

MAJOR BILLS

BILL
TITLE
STATUS
S.1660
American Jobs Act of 2011
46-R, 3-D voted to continue filibuster
S.1723
Teachers and First Responders Back to Work Act of 2011
47-R, 2-D, 1-I voted to continue filibuster
H.Con.Res.34
Ryan Budget
5-R, 50-D, 2-I Nay, 2-R, 1-D Absain: Motion to proceed in Senate rejected
S.940
Close Big Oil Tax Loopholes Act
45-R, 3-D voted to continue filibuster
H.R.1473
Department of Defense and Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011
48-D, 32-R voted for the House bill and sent to the President
H.R.2560
Cut, Cap, and Balance Act of 2011
51-D, 2-I voted to table a motion to proceed in Senate
H.R.1249
America Invents Act
47-D, 40-R, 2-I voted to pass this House bill and send it to the President
H.R.658
FAA Reauthorization and Reform Act of 2011
36-D, 38-R, 1-I voted to pass this House bill, after rancourouse debate, and send to the President
S.365
Budget Control Act of 2011
45-D, 28-R, 1-I voted to pass the budget act after the show-down over the debt ceiling that established the "Super-Committee" which failed in November 2011
?
Transportation Funding Bill
Passed the Senate, held up in the House
?
Student Loan Interest Rate Reduction Bill
Passed in the Senate, held up in the House
H.R.3979
Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2014
Passed in House & Senate w/Amend. died in House
S. 954
Farm Bill
Passed in Senate, held in House
H.R. 325
No Budget, No Pay Act of 2013
Signed into Law
H.R. 5021
Highway and Transportation Funding Act of 2014
Signed into Law
S. 815
Employment Non-Discrimination Act of 2013
Passed by Senate, Died in House
S. 755
Human Trafficking Reporting Act of 2013
Passed by Senate, Died in House
S. 601
Water Resources Development Act of 2013
Passed by Senate, Died in House
H.R. 12
Paycheck Fairness Act
Passed House, Conservative's Filibustered
H.R. 448
Elder Abuss Victims Act
Passed House, Conservative's Filibustered
H.R. 466
Wounded Veterans Job Security Act
Passed House, Conservative's Filibustered

This Congress, the one voted in with President Obama, is more reviled than President Obama himself for only one reason ... they didn't do what you, as Independents, sent them there to do.

That is a start, anyway. I am sure there are some big ones I am forgetting so, as I come across them or somebody reminds me, I will add them.

Now for the poll questions that I hope you will answer. What I am looking for is to see if you have changed your mind since you voted, or thought about voting in the 2010 election. This is mainly directed at independent voters since you are those who are not hard-core advocates of one position or another and can be persuaded to change your position if enough information is provided or you are disappointed in what you thought the outcome of your vote was going to be.

What I would like to try to illicit is whether there is any change that might be occurring or, when you are going to the polls in 2012, we can expect roughly the same Congress as we have now, no more conservative or no more progressive than the make-up is at the moment.

I hope you will play along, it should be fun. (Please don't go too blind reading all of the choices.)

QUESTION 1: STEADFASTNESS

Do you think you will be "staying the course" with your Congressional votes in 2012?

See results without voting

QUESTION 2: WHICH WAY ARE DO YOU THINK YOU WILL MOVE

IF you answered NO to Question 1 above, then Which Way Are You Changing Your Voite?

See results without voting

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junko 4 years ago

I hope the people that voted the tea party in in 2010 realize the personal effect now and in their future of that vote.


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TeaPartyCrasher 4 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

Junko: That's part of the GOP/Tea Party agenda. And a common thing that any right-wing movement needs to get. Get folks to vote against their economic interests.


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL Author

Thank you for your thoughts, TPC and Junko. You and I have one perspective on things which make a lot of sense to us. When those who voted one way or another in 2010, they had, at that time a set of information or beliefs that caused them to vote the way they did. What I am wonder is, if, in hindsight, they think they did the right thing and want to stick with it, or they didn't get the results they wanted and are going to change.

My going in position is that conservatives voted for conservative candidates and progressives voted for progressive candidates and aren't going to change. Same for strongly-leaning left and right independents. I am not so sure about the conservative, moderate, and liberal elements of the opposite party nor true independents ... that is where the story is in 2012.


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WD Curry 111 4 years ago from Space Coast

I am an Independent voter. You have given Independents only two choices. I loath them both. I like Charlie Crist, and I voted for him. He puts Florida first, unlike the Yankee Republicans who moved down here and took over our government. No drilling here!

I like Buddy Roemer, and I will vote for him. It is more of a waste to vote for a Republican or a Democrat. They are both off the beam and probably are getting contributions from the same foreign contributors. My vote will count before the Lord, so I will go with the best choice, regardless. I like the idea of a canditate who will only take $100 from each source, and kept his regional bank in good shape through the pogrom by the Department of Treasury. He didn't foreclose, and worked with business . . . the American way.

Wake up. Republicans took us to the precipice with Reagan's bull. He was the best actor to ever hold the office. The cold war isn't over. He made it legal to be a loan shark. The Democrats did a swan dive into the toilet with Geithner, the FDIC , the FED and Deutsche Bank.

Come on, you were in the army. Do you fight an insurgency with an expeditionary force? It is like taking 3,000 troops to chase Geronimo around the Sonora Desert.


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American Romance 4 years ago from America

yea tea party, I am going to vote WITH my economic enterests by removing Obama!


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TeaPartyCrasher 4 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

AR:

Believe what the Koch's tell you through their mouthpieces.

When you're a serf to them, those words might be all you have to eat.


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My Esoteric 4 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL Author

I understand your complaint, WD, and apologize for it, but as you see, I was building an eye chart already. Nevertheless, I probably should have included an "Other" category anyway for independents. I also should have been clearer in that I am referring to Federal elections and not state ones. BTW, I liked Crist as well.

I love your analogies but besides being in the Army, I am an economist of sorts and would try to take you task regarding the swan dive though. I do think most of the moves from TARP forward were the correct ones, given the circumstances.


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junko 4 years ago

TPC , you just gave me my next hub, thanks.


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Johnkadu123 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

Sadly I am not voting in the USA because I do not live there (on a permanent basis) and I am not a citizen. However if I had to choose I would vote a straight down Democratic ticket because the other side has not convinced me. Telling lies about your opponents and being an obstructionist is not going to get my vote (even if you have a good head of hair).


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Arthur Bundy 4 years ago from Colorado Springs

The Tea Party is bought and sold by capitalist extremists who want what they want when they want it and don't care how they get it. The same people that went out of their way to crush the Occupy Wall Street Movement that was not a movement they could control.

Extreme wealth is the only "ENTITLEMENT" that should be at issue in this election. The point is why would someone go out of their way to spend billions of dollars to control the political and legislative process, unless they knew that what they were doing was totally self-serving.

Why is it that these people avoid putting a real face on who they are and why they believe they have the right to live lavishly at the expense of the rest of us.


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TeaPartyCrasher 4 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

Junko:

I can't wait to see it!


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Johnkadu123 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

The ironic thing is that the Tea Party representatives have concentrated on obstructing Obama instead of doing anything positive. They were elected to change Washington but they have only made it worse.

By the end of this election cycle they will discover that nobody believes them when they claim to be an independent political body. They are fast becoming the ultra-right wing arm of the GOP.

They promised to cut taxes and reign in the government. All they have achieved so far is to alienate potential GOP voters. The conduct of some of the so called Tea Party Leaders has been unbecoming. In the future the Tea Party will need to project a positive message instead of sounding angry at any sort of change.

Fiscal Conservatism does not mean that you argue for the impoverishment of millions of Americans just because you want tax breaks for the wealthiest members of the community. It started off as a fairly interesting idea but now the Tea Party has descended into rabid partisanship.

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