Is America Waking Up OWS

What would Jesus do?
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Reality is Harsh

The Tea Party wants to shut the government down to stop you from getting health insurance
The Tea Party wants to shut the government down to stop you from getting health insurance

The People Have Spoken

Two years have passed since this was written and the media, the people and OWS have spoken. The response to OWS has been a gigantic yawn. While the Tea party, love them or hate them, has maintained vigor and voted themselves into elected positions, OWS has largely disappeared from the news.

Meanwhile, corporations are still people, cash is equal to free speech leading the wealthy to have more free speech, unemployment is decreasing as more people take low wage jobs and Washington has tied itself in knots. Ted Cruz and the Tea Party are still threatening to shut the government down regardless to how this affects the country and the people unless Obama agrees to stop people from getting health insurance.

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Malachy McCourt at Occupy Wall Street in Zuccotti Park/Liberty Park on Saturday, Day 23, October 8.
Malachy McCourt at Occupy Wall Street in Zuccotti Park/Liberty Park on Saturday, Day 23, October 8. | Source

Ninety-nine Versus One Percent or 53 Versus 47 Percent

Who do you identify with, are you a “99”er or do you make over 350K per year? Perhaps you are part of the tax paying 53% that resents the “free” ride given to the 47%. Do you even recognize that the 47% still pay sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes and all the hidden taxes buried in the system that we use? The “free ride” is not so free after all but you can join the ride when you lose your job.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has gained traction globally, there are gatherings now across not only America but they are taking place in places like Japan, the Philippines, Australia, and Europe. In Rome a small group broke away from the main protest, smashed shop windows and torched a car. Marchers in Manila denounced "U.S.-led wars and aggression," while also railing against economic decline and disparities fueled by Wall Street. Protesters in Tokyo said they were waging war on economic inequality. Larry Coleman in Flint, Mich. summed it up pretty well; "There's a lot of things wrong in our county that need to be corrected and the only way to get them corrected is to start with a grassroots movement."

Occupy George

Average worker pay vs CEO pay
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Suck it up you whiners

Exmarine protests the whiners. Bend over and take it!
Exmarine protests the whiners. Bend over and take it! | Source
Protest goes worldwide
Protest goes worldwide | Source

The Malcontent Mob

In our current economy, the young have no reason to expect to own a home, have a good job, with or without health insurance. Do you like to breathe? Well the EPA is under constant attack; all those regulations are stifling business so we need to step back to the polluted skies of the fifties. I suppose you’d like clean water too? Well you Liberal Hippy slacker, regulations are holding businesses back so they want to eliminate the EPA, not just modify some of the more stringent rules. Do you remember when the Cuyahoga River caught fire because of all the waste dumped it? That can be our future once we get rid of all those annoying regulations. It’s a brave new world, each person for him/herself.

Now the Republicans are referring to the 99% as a "mob of malcontents and slackers". How dare they actually object to the inequities of a system designed to favor the wealthy? A photo of an ex-marine shows the proper Tea Party way to respond to the system. Work 70 hours a week at two jobs, without health insurance and take no days off for years on end. In other words be subservient and grateful for the crumbs that fall off the table. This is “Supply Side Economics” and with thirty years of practice, we can see how well it is working. Oh and “cutting taxes creates jobs.” Obvious how well this canard is working, taxes are at their lowest in sixty years yet no one is creating jobs, instead, business is reported to be holding onto a total close to two trillion dollars while they wait for the economy and demand to improve.

Corporations are People?

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Conservatives, or “Regressives”

So what does the 99% have to lose in this environment? It was "malcontents" like this that finally ended the Viet Nam war. The young then were considered hippies, druggies and slackers, but their cause grew to a national protest that finally ended the war and the draft. Maybe the conservatives remember this and are afraid of this movement because they cannot control it, and need to kill it. Conservatives, or as Robert Reich likes to call them “Regressives” would like to turn back the progress of the last century to the days “before the federal income tax, antitrust laws, the Pure Food and Drug Act, and the Federal Reserve. A time when robber barons -- railroad, financial, and oil titans -- ran the country.” Paul Krugman says Wall Street, the GOP, and other "economic royalists" are "hysterical" over the protests. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, called them "mobs"

Malcontent mob says what?

Pro-business, pro-government
Pro-business, pro-government | Source
Work it out together
Work it out together

The System or the Rich?

Well, good luck with that but each time in American history when the “haves” gain too much power, the “have nots” have taken it back and returned some measure of power to the people. This happened in the “Gilded Age” again during the Great Depression and perhaps this may be the start of the next age of reform. Is this “class warfare?” Does the left resent the rich or do they resent a system where the rich take everything for themselves? Many of the rich have created companies with innovative products and ideas while other companies just take advantage of tax laws and ship well paying jobs overseas. The class warfare is in the eyes of the beholders, what the protestors want is a just system with progressive taxes and concern for the least fortunate.

Still, much needs to be done, there is little organization and the message is confused in a cacophony of voices. Pundits say that it is typical of the Left, that anyone with an issue has joined the movement and this may be their undoing. On the other hand, this lack of coherence may simply indicate that unlike the Tea Party, there are no big money interests controlling the message. It is easy to be opposed to the inequities of an unfair system, being in favor of specific reforms takes work. In a system dominated on all sides by big money the work has to come from grass roots and people like us.

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HSchneider 5 years ago from Parsippany, New Jersey

Excellent Hub ChefsRef. It is about time this country wakes up to these thieves. The Progressives and Liberals are now up and running. Let's give the Tea Partiers a run for their money.


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PETER LUMETTA 5 years ago from KENAI, ALAKSA

Lee this is a great Article, they are very afraid. We can change this scenario, people do count and the numbers are hard to ignore, especially for politicians. Thanks,

Peter


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey HS and Peter

Yes, we have to keep this movement alive and take our country away from the right wing

Thanx for stopping by


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Robephiles 5 years ago

What drives me crazy about the 53% percent response is that a lot of the stories from these people involve them getting some kind of assistance from the government. One guy talk about how he worked hard to get off of food stamps and disability, then misses the point that he probably would have died in the streets without those programs.

The new thing is to accuse the protesters of being Anti-Semitic. If so many Jewish groups hadn't already come out in support of the protesters and participated in protests then maybe this would convince some people. As a tactic this is pathetic.

Rush Limbaugh claims that some of the people should "be on our side" and then calls a guy an idiot for protesting because his business has gone down 75% since the economic collapse and he has no health insurance. Even people who make over 50,000 a year are struggling because of debt, rising prices and the rich trying to drain every last dime out of the rest of us.

If you can make 50,000 a year or more and still feel poor then there is definitely something wrong with the system. system.


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TeaPartyCrasher 5 years ago from Camp Hill, PA

Might I share this on FB?


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cooldad 5 years ago from Florida

Nice hub, I enjoyed it. Big Corporations are bad? Wow, the protesters are just getting around to this realization. Amazing, next thing you know, someone will realize that smoking is bad.

I wish the same people would protest against the Kardashians and reality television, that's what's really ruining this country.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Thanx Robephiles

I couldn't agree more although I hadn't heard the antiSemitic thing before. Up until this I've wondered why our side was not in the streets. Now we are and hopefully we will make some changes


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Tea Party Crasher

By all means, share anyplace you'd like! Thanx for coming by

Lee


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

HEy Cooldad

Thanx for stopping by. I gave up on reality TV a long time ago, life is too short to spend it being a spectator of someone else's reality.


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Dave Sibole 5 years ago from Leesburg, Oh

The idea that the Tea Parties are funded by big money and the current protests are not is laughable. The current protestors are supported by big money, big business unions. Where is the equality between the union bosses and the rank and file? Our local Tea Party had to pass a hat to get enough money for a booth at the county fair. Rallies are only a part of the Tea Party. We have monthly meetings. We are trying to change Washington where the real corruption is. But a great Hub none the less even though I disagree. Isn't America great?


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Dave

Thanx for stopping by, it's nice to have a reasoned discussion with the other side. All too often comments amount to nothing more than name calling and derision. As to the reasoning behind my big money remarks, I think the evidence is before our eyes, taxes and deregulation have become the TP issue while "Occupy WS" issues are all over the place, they are a protest movement without a goal, not exactly conducive to being controlled by Unions or anyone else.


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thebigbagblog 5 years ago from CYBERSPACE

Good article!


craig R 5 years ago

Good Hub....But one thing that tires me is constant negativity about unions....As small as unions have become , many due to their own mismanagement , there is one thing they have going for them over any business that , like water , goes where the easiest flow or profit is , as big business often does.

American unions are made up of , for better or worse , Americans , whereas business , even when originaly American easily move from one country to another when profitability isn't high enough to suit them......

To work so hard to defend an entity that has little allegiance to their homebase , as many do is , counter intuitive and in the age of the patriot and super patriot makes little sense...........


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Craig

Yes the amount of good the Unions have done for American workers is almost incalculable. 40 hour work weeks, overtime pay, health insurance are all responses to Union demands that have become commonplace. If the Right succeeds in destroying collective bargaining will American workers be back at square one? I wonder how many TPers would like to work for the wages and conditions in India or China. Unions have harmed themselves and their workers with unreasonable demands and corruption but they need reform not destruction


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Bigbagblog

Thanx for reading and commenting


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the bunco squad 5 years ago from Savannah GA

Chefsref, I truly enjoyed this hub. It’s unfortunate that the vast majority of Republicans get all of their information from talk radio or Fox News. I believe that it’s a sort of syndrome that affects the reasoning center of the brain. They yell, the curse, they try to change the topic, they throughout meaningless quotes or the blame people that couldn’t possibly have any thing to do with what they are talking about. Big business hate unions so the taking heads claim that their ruing the country and are over influencing elections, so the sheep of the party bleat the same erroneous drivel. No facts, no research and no solid argument.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Bunco

I hope the Occupy Wall St movement can bring the argument back to the good of the people instead of what's good for business and the Koch brothers. Thanx for stopping by and commenting


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Horatio Baccus 5 years ago from PDX

Great blog. I am so pleased that the Occupy movement has lasted as long as it has. I had been calling for something like this for years and wrote a hub over two months ago calling for the unemployed to occupy banks and such after labor day. The only reason I have not moved down to my local chapter is that they were already overcrowded when I finally got supplies together and the General Assembly process that makes the camp rules has been hijacked by a radical minority because they set a rule of needing 90% consensus to adopt anything. As I said to one of our locals in chat; "I don't see how you logically protest rule by the 1% and then give 10% of your numbers filibuster power."


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Thanx Horatio

That filibuster rule has screwed up the Senate so I can't imagine why the Occupy movement would adopt it.

Thanx for reading and commenting


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James A Watkins 5 years ago from Chicago

Your first picture says a lot about what is wrong with this Hub. "Jesus was a socialist" is the most slanderous thing that can be said about Christ and it always comes from those who don't believe in him anyway.

Jesus told me and you—not Caesar—to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, give drink to the thirsty, take in the homeless, visit the sick and the prisoner AND tell them the Good News. That last bit is far and away the most important part of Jesus' message. Without the Good News being told—which Caesar will not do—Jesus would not promote the rest.

Maybe if half the wealth in the country were not sucked dry by government, we could focus on Christian Charity as it is meant to be, along with those trillions of dollars.

We should remember that the 1% can move to another country anytime they want. Of course, Leftist Utopians can always retreat to their usual plans of building walls to keep people in and shoot them if they try to escape.

The compliance costs of regulations in America are $1.75 trillion according to a study done by the Small Business Administration. Regulatory costs exceed the projected budget deficit for FY2011 which is $1.48 trillion. In 2010 federal agencies have created 3,573 new rules, while Congress only enacted a relatively few 217 new laws. [This is law created outside our democracy]. In 2010 the hidden cost of regulations exceeded 50% of federal spending. Regulatory costs represent about 12% of Americas GDP in 2010. But you do not see this as a problem?

These people do not represent the 99% at all. Far more people object to their message than like it.

You ask: "How dare they actually object to the inequities of a system designed to favor the wealthy?"

The Rule of Law is what distinguishes a free country. Within these rules the individual should be free to pursue his personal desires. In a free country, the Rule of Law does not apply only to particular persons. It is intended only to be instrumental to the pursuit of various individual ends. It is intended for long periods of time, so it is impossible to know if it will assist some people more than others. It helps people predict the behavior of those with whom they must collaborate, but it does not aid the effort of particular persons. In other words, the Rule of Law is blind. It does not know in advance which individual it will assist; it does not choose between particular persons or particular ends. It serves to create new opportunities for all, but the precise results remain unseen. This is what it means for legislation to be impartial.

Yes, I am in the group that wishes an end to the federal income tax, and even more so the federal reserve. The latter (and the progressive government) is who you folks should be protesting.

You say "unlike the Tea Party, there are no big money interests controlling the message."

That is utter nonsense. Big unions, that Canadian outfit (their name escapes me) and George Soros are backing these protests, which like them, are Marxist in nature. Talk about regressive! Shall we emulate political systems that lowered the standard of living by huge amounts everywhere they were tried and killed 100 million souls to boot?

One of your commenters said: "Even people who make over 50,000 a year are struggling because of debt"

Blame lenders, right? How infantile! Maybe you should not have borrowed the money in the first place!

Another reader rightly said "American unions are made up of , for better or worse , Americans." Yes, and so are American corporations. What is a corporation? A group of people, like you and me.

You wrote: "the amount of good the Unions have done for American workers is almost incalculable. 40 hour work weeks, overtime pay, health insurance are all responses to Union demands that have become commonplace. If the Right succeeds in destroying collective bargaining will American workers be back at square one? I wonder how many TPers would like to work for the wages and conditions in India or China"

God this is so awfully wrong. Henry Ford started the 40 hour work week, paid overtime, paid health insurance, and paid double the prevailing wages two decades before Ford was unionized. Unions are at the heart of our economic problems. Them and progressive government. Cut unions and half those regulations out and the economy booms tomorrow like never before in American history. And no, unlike Marxist propaganda, Americans will not have to work for slave wages. Only 7% of American workers are in labor unions—a monopolistic group of extortionists—do the other 93% WHO WORK work for slave wages? Give me a break. Unions drove manufacturing out of the country not because corporations are greedy—but because we don't want $300 toasters and $1500 washing machines just to prop up some corrupt labor union and the progressive politicans they fund.


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the bunco squad 5 years ago from Savannah GA

You need to read your bible. Hey is there capitalism in heaven?


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Okay, if the 1% want to move to another country let them. They will find that other countries impose more regulations on their activities. Conservatives are the ones intent on building electrified fences that will kill people trying to come into this country. We on the left have no need to wall people in and it is absurd to ascribe intent to someone rather than discussing the ideas as presented. Your description of me as a non-Christian is beneath contempt and the truth will be determined by God not you. You might want to consider the admonition “judge not” before you condemn me but if you really followed Christ’s teachings you would have already considered that.

There is no writing in the Bible that supports the idea that Caesar (the government) is to be held to a lower standard than the people. Perhaps Jesus missed a bit in the Sermon on the Mount, Blessed are the wealthy for they shall… what? Have all the money? Pay poor wages? Have the most toys? Camel through the eye of a needle comes to mind.What many on the right have been duped into believing is the philosophy of Ayn Rand, an avowed atheist and antithetical to what Christ taught.

Christian charity is well represented during the Republican debates. Your christians (little c) cheer executions and letting people die and resent paying taxes that help the old, the ill, the poor etc. This is not a Christian nation when so many people that proclaim their so-called Christianity do not follow the precepts. We even had a national debate about whether we should use torture as a matter of policy. Jesus must be very pleased.

The government is 38% of the economy and if the anarchists on the right succeed in destroying the government the economy shrinks by 38%. No more Army, Air Force, Marines, Medicare, Social Security, Welfare, School lunches, Medical Research, NASA, the list goes on and on.

I agree the cost of regulation is high and there are many needless regulations. On the rational side, many regulations have done us a world of good. Does anyone want to fly on a plane that has not been inspected? How about your food, do you want it to be as safe as possible? Perhaps we can depend on the marketplace to ensure the safety of what we eat? If you die from eating tainted cantaloupe, I won’t buy any melon, if I hear about it, but you will still be dead. Remember the days when the Cuyahoga River used to catch fire from all the pollutants pumped into it. Is that better than having a Clean Water Act? Smog has been reduced, industrial accidents have declined, cars have seatbelts and airbags and so on. It took government to make these standards fit across the board. The idea that conservatives want to destroy the regulations that provide safety for all Americans is reprehensible. What is needed is intelligent oversight of the agencies and regulations by disinterested parties instead of business insiders. Instead we get a government bought and paid for by big business.

As far as “Far more people object to their message than like it.” Forty-three percent of respondents to a new CBS/New York Times survey said they agree with Occupy Wall Street's goals, while, 27 percent said they disagree. Thirty percent were unsure. Tea party support peaked at 31 percent around the time of the 2010 elections, but has since declined to just 18 percent.

If you eliminate the income tax how do you propose to pay for the government? 45% of federal funding comes from income tax and 12% from corporate taxes, 36% comes from payroll taxes (Social Security). When you eliminate all of those sources of revenue the entire government collapses. How can we invade the next evil country without money in the treasury?

I agree about the Fed, we would be better off with a central bank controlled by the government instead of private banks but I’m sure that is not what you had in mind.

As to the Unions and Soros controlling OWS, where is your evidence? There is none except for the propaganda by the likes of Rush. There is no central control, no lobbying, no political candidates and no advertising, thus there is nothing YET to control.

“Blame lenders, right? How infantile!” Once again you descend into calling names. That should be beneath you, however predatory lending practices have been well documented. This does not excuse the borrower from being uninformed but the lender bears much of the blame and the lenders are the ones that got the bail out.

“What is a corporation? A group of people, like you and me.” However if I join a union I get voting rights, if I buy a light bulb I have no say in the political dealings of that company.

“Henry Ford started the 40 hour work week, paid overtime, paid health insurance, and paid double the prevailing wages two decades before Ford was unionized” And just how did Henry extend this program to the rest of America? Benefits are being cut, wages are depressed and more people are working part time without benefits. Jobs are being shipped to countries with the lowest wages and least benefits. That is beyond dispute. True, unions have done themselves a lot of harm by keeping useless jobs and excessive wage and benefit packages. On the other hand I am supposed to resent someone that makes a decent living because he gets a better deal than I do in a non-union job.

Sooner or later the people will prevail, it happened during the Great Depression, it happened during the gilded age and it might be starting right now.


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the bunco squad 5 years ago from Savannah GA

Chef you cooked up a great big pot of whoopass, I hope a swirlly pudding is for desert.


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Horatio Baccus 5 years ago from PDX

I love when alleged conservative Christians assert that liberals aren't Christians. My love of Christ's message led me to liberalism. The kindness and the charity was the Good News he sought to spread and every mega-church who fund more book stores than shelters are failing that message. The Jesus I learned about had a pretty negative reaction to those who made money in the temple.

Christ preached that those living with more than they needed while others suffered were corrupt, that no one should profit from the faithful, and speaking out against accumulated wealth and power is what led the religious establishment and the state to single him out for execution. It wasn't that he was stirring the Hebrews into revolt against Rome or that his views and company were an affront to the traditionalists in his own faith; his crime was pointing out the inequity between the haves and have-nots and getting the poor to listen. A message so dangerous that two thousand years later it still drives the small minded greedy cowards to employee violence against those that only seek something better for the least among us.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Thanx Horatio

I share your view of Christianity. It is deplorable that Christ's message has been so corrupted that the greedy claim Jesus to be one of their own. If America ever was a Christian nation it now worships Mammon


thir3dpart 5 years ago

I think folks should stop eyeballing the wealthy and start looking at this government who is the driving force behind the suffering we see in the USA.


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Horatio Baccus 5 years ago from PDX

I know the reason this government has been failing the middle class is because for the past 30+ years our elected officials have been legislating for the lobbyist who only represent the wealthy and the big industries. For more than thirty years we have cut taxes, subsidized big oil, and deregulated industry and investment; the core return of which has been top range executive incomes climbing constantly and while the real value of worker compensation has stagnated. So the best thing we can do for our government is to get it out of the hands of the wealthy.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Horatio

You're absolutely right. What I find difficult to understand is why the Tea Party is not supporting OWS, they have a lot of overlap of issues.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Hey Thir3dpart

I think the issue is not the wealthy but their control of the government. We need to go green, recycle Congress in 2012!

Thanx for stopping by


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south

Excellent article. Your comment section reflects the very problem we face in our society today. They seem to pick out one small insignificant thing (religion/unions/welfare/,etc) and home in on that, as if it is the one and only cause of our problems today.

We need to start looking at the BIG picture, and realize that though these trivial things may also be problems (or merely annoyances) for the people in general, they are only side tracking the things that need to be addressed first: Getting business out of government, getting government to pay attention to the business of "the people" above all else, restructuring the government to be more streamlined, and yes, putting in those regulations that will stop, and prevent, the incessant greed that is the greatest problem of all.

Hopefully America, as well as the rest of the world, is finally waking up to discover that 1% of the population, (and their incessant greed) is the real cause of the worlds economic problems. Not those progressive slackers who just do not want to work.

We, as Americans, have lived most of our lives only seeing what is affecting us, as individuals, in our own little worlds. Now when we realize that there is a greater problem than the petty annoyances in our own little lives, we are looking for the cause to be visible right in front of our noses.

We need to be able to look beyond our noses to see the bigger picture: the nation, corporate america, and how they are all interconnected and what they have become without direction, without purpose, and without concern for the individual.

The Occupy Wall Street is only the beginning of this awakening, and hopefully there will be enough leaders that have balls enough to stand up and make the necessary changes to correct these inequities in our society before we actually fall like Rome and Russia have done in the past.


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chefsref 5 years ago from Citra Florida Author

Thanx D

I hope we are at the beginning of a new awakening and it continues.

Your remark "getting business out of government" points to our slide toward Fascism and too few people recognize this fact. Mussolini called Fascism "Corporatism" and that defines our system far too well.

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