Japan's radiation danger to the rest of the world

Conflicting reports about the real danger of radiation

We all know what has happened. We have all been shocked by the news of the earthquake and tsunami that have devastated a large part of Japan and claimed so many lives but as the nightmare continues what do any of us really know? Mainstream media reports are varied and conflicting, whilst those in the alternative media are no better.

Both the mainstream and the alternative press are circulating alarming news titles and plenty of fear and worry is being generated by all this. Conspiracy theorists and other alternative press claim that the mainstream are deliberately leaving out a lot of the facts of the grim reality of what has happened and the danger now that exists, not just for Japan but for the rest of the world.

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How dangerous is radiation?

What we really need to know is how dangerous radiation is and what we can do to protect ourselves from it? The big problem is that most people don't know much about the subject and there is so much confusion being generated by the media of all persuasions.

To add to the worry is the fact that we cannot see, taste, smell or in any other way sense radiation so have to rely on what is reported. Then the problem is that one report will say it isn't anything to be concerned about because levels are too low whilst another article will advise staying indoors and taking potassium iodide, kelp or some other antidote and protection for radiation poisoning.

If you listen to the advice about these chemicals and foods to take you are then in another area of great confusion. Some sources say not to take iodine in tablet form because it can create medical problems, other reports say that it has been selling out due to panic-buying by a worried public. Alternative sources of iodine are being recommended by some 'experts' and kelp is the most naturally occurring of these. You should be able to buy it from the health store or even get it out of the sea if you know what it looks like.

Animals and birds know nothing about the dangers of radiation or fallout and have no protection or ways of avoiding it. If it is as bad as many people make out what will be the effects upon the wildlife of Japan and of other countries where the radiation is being carried by the winds?

The jetstream is said to be moving large clouds of contaminated air across the northern hemisphere and much of North America, Canada and Europe is said to have been exposed to this. Radioactive plumes of Cesium 137, Iodine 131, and Xenon 133 are said to have been carried across the world.

Adding fuel to the panic, conspiracy theorists and other people are circulating videos claiming that Japan is being evacuated as well as other videos on YouTube of people reportedly speaking live from the country. If these videos get removed then it makes those who believe in the validity of these reports even more convinced that the situation is worse than we are being told.

One thing is for certain and that is that for the millions of people living in Japan there is no magic escape route being offered. The islands have been their home, although many are now homeless due to the disaster. It is very hard to imagine what it must actually be like for someone who has lost their home, their livelihood and possibly even family members in a sudden catastrophe. Footage of the tsunami shows the incredible force of the water that swept vehicles and buildings away.

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The average person has no way of knowing what the radiation levels are where they live or what danger this poses. While there are many people who are very concerned about this matter very many more are just getting on with their lives and not giving the subject much attention.

I have posted a thread at Facebook, which so far has over 70 replies in a couple of days, in an effort to get some truths about how dangerous the radiation from the Fukushima nuclear reactors actually is to the rest of the world. A very heated debate has ensued and opinions are very varied and often in opposition. Some scientifically minded people claim that because the radiation is in such small quantities it will not be a threat but others say that all radiation is dangerous.

It has been pointed out that ‎nuclear physicist Paul Norman at Birmingham University was quoted in the Daily Mail as having "estimated that a banana milkshake was more radioactive than a cubic metre of air in Oxfordshire yesterday." This was an area of the UK where according to the press radiation from Japan had been reported.

Hill-walking guide and web developer David Parkes explained that "we are exposed to natural radiation every day. Provided the dose remains low, it causes us NO clinical harm. So there are 'safe' levels of radiation." David is of course right because the sun emits radiation, as does electrical equipment we use, and more comes from the environment.

However, film-maker and author Chris Everard, who has been advising the public to stay indoors in areas where radiation had been detected, had "posted up the latest contamination plume prediction" that showed that, at time of posting, "the whole of MORROCCO, northern MAURITANIA, Some parts of TUNISIA and parts of ALGERIA, along with Central SPAIN, Most of Portugal - AND THE CANARY ISLANDS are affected. "

It has been pointed out that there are different types of radiation including solar (from the sun), X-ray, gamma and nuclear radiation and that different types have different effects and that it depends on the concentration.

Raw foodist, film producer and artist Markus Rothkranz has been circulating his opinion on the matter and has stated in a newsletter entitled Don't Fear Radiation: "Radiation is not an enemy. It's just radiation. People emit a form of radiation. The sun is radiation. Every thing in the universe radiates. It is the essence of life. How do you survive anything? You resonate with your environment. Fish resonate with water. Birds resonate with air. I personally resonate with light. I thrive in light. I live in the desert with 360 days of blazing heat and sunlight. I live in a city not far from where EIGHT HUNDRED NUCLEAR TESTS were done over 40 years ! I am not afraid of it..."

I agree with him that fear is not going to help anyone. There is far too much fear in the world already! Nevertheless I have stocked up on kelp tablets and been taking a daily dose.

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Sophia Angelique 5 years ago

Essentially, radiation in high levels is deadly to human beings and other species. However, as 'air' is blown away, it dilutes with the air that does not have such high levels of radioactivity. So, by the time it reaches tens of thousands of miles away, it is pretty much harmless. However, that is not the big issue. The big issue is that when these accidents happen more than once or twice in a few years, the radioactivity builds up, and after a while, the average radioactivity in the air is too much for human beings. At that point, it's too late. Essentially, we should bundle up nuclear physics and throw away the key. NO MORE NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS. PEOPLE SHOULD SIMPLY LEARN TO USE LESS ENERGY!


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Chouji-Von-Lycan 5 years ago

it's plenty to think about, thank you for your hub


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback, Sophia and Chouji-Von-Lycan!


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

We have, and have had replacement renewable energy available for over 25 years! I am personally involved, and privy to this technology, and it WILL be implemented as the rule for our future energy needs. Not only does it not harm our planet, but it also produces purified water, and purified topsoil, along with additional energy credits each month that can be sold. It will also be able to process all the garbage that is sitting in land fills as well. In the new future, there will be no more land fills!

The rebound affect of capitalism, and corporate profit has indeed claimed it's devastating position. People who are educated in this knew fully well beforehand that this would inevitably happen. Stephen Hawking has said countless times, he feels the human race may not even survive another hundred years. I'm certain he was considering nuclear energy as part of this thought process.

Today it's the people who have the power to decide WHAT TO PATRONIZE. If "PEOPLE" decide that renewable energy being eco friendly, and non toxic to humans is what they want...then let me assure you now...they will have it!

Start letting congress, and state agencies, etc., that you don't want nuclear energy anymore! We have the technology to rid ourselves of this planetary albatross once and for all! These technologies are coming together as we speak and write about this. How do I know this? I am friends with, and work with major world scientists who invented this themselves! Over 160 new technologies are about to be implemented by a huge consortium of steadfast people who really care what happens to us, and the planet. This is happening right now. Do not lose hope, and have faith!

I'm certainly not stopping!

Cheers! We are worth fighting for!


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Computer Guy 5 years ago from Indianapolis IN

Great article and many questions that need attention from everyone in the world. The other issue that no one ever talks about is the nuclear waste!!!! Where is all this waste going that come from these hundreds of nuclear plants around the world. The waste that is hot for thousands of years. I heard a store saying we pay third world countries millions of dollars to throw our nuclear waste in their country???????


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Darlene Sabella 5 years ago from Hello, my name is Toast and Jam, I live in the forest with my dog named Sam ...

Hello My dear music man, this is an excellent hub, we are the mile high city so I am sure it will be blowing in here.

This is very informative and well done. Rate up, love & peace darski


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback too, Dawn, Computer Guy and Darski!


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Reynold Jay 5 years ago from Saginaw, Michigan

Yes--it will eventually cover the entire northern hemisphere to some degree. Let's hope for the best .I enjoyed this very much. You have this laid out beautifully and it is easy to understand. Keep up the great HUBS. Up one and Useful. Hey! I'm now your fan! RJ


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Reynold Jay!


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CHRIS57 5 years ago from Northern Germany

Very good to have some radioactive elements spilled all over the planet. That will help to reduce the cancer and death rate caused by tobacco smoking.

Tobacco plants are very good filters for radioactive elements in the air, especially for the delicate Polonium 210, a strong alpha particle emitter. (Polonium 210 killed the Russian KGB renegade in London in 2006).

With a little bit of panic hype from the media on radioactive fallout and some popular science articles on Polonium and cigarets we should accomplish the task of getting rid of cigaret smokers.

This is just a little sarcastic comment of a non-smoker who doesn´t understand the overrating of a tragic singular event like Fukushima and the underestimation of every day dangers.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for posting!


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DavidParkes 5 years ago from Tenerife

I'm no expert Steve, you shouldn't quote me as an authoritative source, that said neither is Chris Everard.

My personal opinion based on my understanding of the facts is the Fukushima radiation presently poses no danger to anyone outside Japan or in the region of the Japanese archipelago.

I'd advise anyone concerned to monitor the situation, but I am pretty sure that news would break fairly quickly if monitoring stations detected any risk to those of us in Europe or the US. And given the way the jet stream works, news would break in the US first as they would be the first hit.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

David, I have quoted you as a hill-walking guide and web developer and Chris as a film-maker which is what you are not as 'experts' but as people who have put forward their views on this.


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DavidParkes 5 years ago from Tenerife

True, but whilst I'm flattered you value my opinion enough to quote it, in the spirit of journalistic integrity a second quote from a Nuclear Physicist or even a medical Doctor would trump a 'hill-walking guide/web developer'.

:D


Karen Kirby 5 years ago

My concern is the continuing emissions of this radiation, particularly plutonium. It is already in our food chain in the United States from these first few days. Will those who live in the Southern Hemisphere be safe? Is it an idea to move to Chile or Argentina? Can we be safe from radiation there? I believe it is not being addressed by our government to the people because there is nothing that can be done. It looks like the long feared "nuclear winter" could become a reality not from a war but from man's own incompetence.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

David, in this hub I was trying to do various things including saying that there is so much varied opinion and reporting on the matter that much confusion is generated. I picked out what you said because it made a lot of common sense to me as I explained. The "radiation" word is becoming as much a word to be feared as "aluminium" is to chemtrail-believers who go on and on about it being found in samples and fail to see that it is a very commonly distributed naturally occurring mineral. Yes, radiation is all over the place normally but doesn't cause any harm and surely it is dependent on what type, how much of it there is and for how long exposure lasts. Your explanation also helps dispel the unnecessary fear and paranoia coming about because people don't know much about radiation.

Karen, thank you for your feedback! It is obviously impossible and impractical for millions of people to move to areas that are 'safer'.


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Chhimed 5 years ago

Brilliant idea, let's all move to Chile. I hear the mountains are lovely at this time of year. Could get a little overcrowded if the entire planet move there as well though, don't you think?

No Karen, don't worry, there will not be a nuclear winter. That is the speculated result of an ash cloud from multiple nuclear detonations entirely blocking out the sun's rays. The radiation from the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant in contrast is not ash from an explosion and is invisible, so will not block the sun's rays.

BoE “Yes, radiation is all over the place normally but doesn't cause any harm”

I take it then, Steve, that like David, you also “don't read” and missed my mentioning (on the Facebook thread you've linked to) the fact that: “background radiation kills 2,500 people every year in the UK”.

BoE “Your explanation also helps dispel the unnecessary fear and paranoia coming about because people don't know much about radiation”.

However, the Hill-walking guide and web developer you have quoted has succinctly demonstrated to anyone who has a clue about this subject that he knows very little about it either. Why would he? What part does such knowledge play in his chosen field? I would hazard a guess that he has never handled let alone used a Geiger counter in his entire life and wouldn't know the difference between one probe and another or their specific purposes.

My advice as an engineer: Stop worrying about things you know little or nothing about. My advice as a practitioner of Dzogchen and Buddhism: Abandon hope and abandon fear as they both achieve nothing and are a waste of your energy. Get on with your lives and enjoy whatever time you have left. Who knows, like Tsutomu Yamaguchi, you might live to see your ninety third birthday?

Best of luck to you all.

Chhimed


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Chhimed, for someone who knows so much about all this, as you clearly seem to think you do from all your posting in the thread, but nevertheless advises people to "Stop worrying" and to "abandon fear" you spend an awful lot of time warning people about how bad radiation can be don't you think?

You say: “background radiation kills 2,500 people every year in the UK” and that sounds an alarming figure which will worry some people but I would say that contrasted against the numbers that die from many other causes including traffic accidents it is a small figure!

I actually don't understand what you are doing - you appear to post a lot of material about how bad the radiation threat is and then contradict yourself by saying not to worry about it. Whether it is a serious threat or not you offer no solution or recommendations so what is the point you are making?


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DavidParkes 5 years ago from Tenerife

"You say: 'background radiation kills 2,500 people every year in the UK' and that sounds an alarming figure."

Its also false, but lets not let facts get in the way of Chhimed, he's on a roll. Supposedly finished 'wasting his time on me' on your Facebook thread. He pops up here on Hub Pages to berate me for being rational elsewhere.

Though he continues to prove my point that people 'don't read' by missing our exchange in the comment thread over whether my opinion is a suitable one for you to quote. For my part the only things I have decided not to read are Chhimed's comments, because rather than make any clear point they just seem to attempt to disagree with everyone.


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fucsia 5 years ago

You are right: fears do not help. The world needs to a global commitment toward others type of source of energy. It needs commitment, does not need fears, but also serves sincerity.

This disaster can be a great lesson or can remain only a huge disaster, with serious impact in the world and in our serenity.

Thanks for this interestin page


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for your posts, David and Fucsia! Fucsia, I hope that it can be seen as a "great lesson"! Sometimes I wonder if that is what life is about - a vast classroom for all of us with all manner of lessons being constantly taught both personally and shared by everyone!


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Spirit Whisperer 5 years ago from Isle of Man

Thank you for another great hub. Japan has learned its lesson and has now begun to change over but what do we need to happen to us before we follow suit? people live in the "it's never going to happen to me" trance until things do happen and then it's too late. I must also add that The Japanese people are very dignified race in the way the behaved throughout. Voted up.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Spirit Whisperer! You make some very good points!


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BrainFire 5 years ago from The Island

I beg to differ with anyone claiming there is no harm from the many radioactive activities, and toxins on our planet. Would your opinion be western medicine based? How about we include nutrition, and other areas of expertise to keep it fair, and even. Over exposure to ANY of these toxins are detrimental to your health, and the health of the planet...period.

It is a fact that all types of radioactive waves affect the human body in an adverse way. EMF's, microwaves, the sun, transformers, wiring, cell phones, computers, and so much more I'm sure I don't have to list, that DO affect the body, are NOT ok. A simple thing like my Real Estate tests include the area of danger to humans from EMF's, and transformers on the streets near homes. You have to know this in order to pass the test. If you failed to demonstrate that you know about these things, then you do not pass the test. This is a minuscule section of dangers that lurk everywhere around us. ALL of it is harmful to humans! This HAS been proven beyond any shadow of doubt.

The planet at this time has TOO MANY areas of destruction all at once. The people will suffer the consequences greatly, as we are witnessing. However if the people decide they have had enough of this nonsense, they will change it. People were deceived into thinking this was the end all be all of power. Unfortunately when you only give a third of the facts to the population, they cannot make a well informed decision, hence the commencement of the nuke age. Keeping the people ignorant has been a method of operation for a very long time now. The sheep have to say, "Nahhhhhh", to all the destructive choices presented, and go back to basics of survival. Earth, water, air, and fire are the elements to focus on, in lieu of what we are facing now.

The general public is expected to panic, if the actual facts are given to them, hence the reason for withheld information, and facts. Should a total fallout happen, many sick people, including officials who kept the facts silent, will be wandering the planet aimlessly to connect with survivors in a new world, none of us have ever known. Much like the stand, (the movie) the remaining survivors will rebuild upon what is left. Although that movie was about a flu pandemic, it's still the same result in the end. There are so many dangers to deal with now, and the results of these dangers are now in the forefront of the looming question...What have WE done to our beautiful planet? We are now living the rebound affect to our decisions that were made WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS! The result to all of this, and consequences are right on schedule, and par for the course that was taken. Pure mathematics confirms the REAL big picture, with the REAL facts of the matter.

Writing opinions WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS, is just that, an opinion, with a huge gaping hole of ignorance to contend with.

I recently debated the status of drinking water with my world renowned physicist, that I work with. He feels the water is fine, and the rain water I will be utilizing in a project is fine the way it is. I steadfastly disagreed, and presented him with the true facts of what is actually in the water. Constituents like cadmium, chlorine, fluoride,(just to name a few), are toxic to humans. Upon completion of this ongoing debate, (which I am absolutely firm on) he conceded that my facts were indeed correct, and humans should not be consuming these toxic substances. This HAS been proven beyond any shadow of doubt now. This debate revolves around a new technology of food production, (in a controlled environment), that is NOT contaminated, and safe for consumption. So the conclusion from the facts I presented were, and are confirmed to be correct.

The moral here is to pay attention to REAL FACTS, not MERE OPINION, based on a third of the facts. Being educated about what the human body can withstand, and what it cannot, would be a very good place to start. Life for humans is likely to end up being dependent upon that alone. Keeping it simple, would apply as well, so as not to cloud the issues, and overwhelm people with too much. Priorities narrowed down, in a triage manner is where the focus needs to be. In a world of survival, I would equate, mathematics would take precedence over opinion. It's true, and accurate, and you cannot argue with it. We are at the precipice...humanity has the power to change this permanently before it IS too late. Do the math!


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dearabbysmom 5 years ago from Indiana

Great and thought-provoking hub and discussion. Trust...in science, government, media, etc...is a huge factor in how how we will choose to respond. We'll act according to information from the sources we trust the most. What are those?


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for this detailed feedback, BrainFire and for your comments too, dearabbysmom!


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

Excellent hub and great comments from everyone.

Many forms of radiation are dangerous even in low doses because there is an accumulating effect to radiation. That is why people aren't given as many x-rays as they once were. That is why cell phone usage should be kept to a minimum and kept turned off until they are used, especially for young people. We may hear that that the radiation in our respective areas are at a safe level but, safe for how long of an exposure? Safe for how many exposures of X duration? Is it safe for the plants and animals and all of nature for 24/7? There has been radiation contaminated food crops in Japan and farmers are just letting their crops die in the field and then will till them into the ground but, how long will it be till that ground is safe for planting again? Even in areas that have reported "safe" levels of radiation just what constitutes safe? Crops and food animals may be contaminated at "safe" levels but, since radiation has an accumulating effect how much of what kind of radiation is actually "safe"?

I have no answers to any of these questions. Even if I get answers will the answers be truthful and correct? I don't know. Am I going to worry about it? Not really. I'll tell you why.

It's supposed to rain today and there could be radiation from Japan in the atmosphere above where I live. But my dog has to go potty outside and I have to take her out for her to do her business. If it's raining the rain will be bringing the radiation down to the ground. No longer will it be widely dispersed in the atmosphere where concentration levels are said to be low but, at ground level, it will be more concentrated. Safe? I don't know. My dog will get wet, my shoes, pants and umbrella will also get wet. How much radiation will there be? When we come inside we will bring the radiation with us. I can dry off my dog, remove my shoes and change my pants at the door but, is that enough? I have to breathe while I'm outside. The air will be filled with humidity, is the air going to be safe? Once I open the door to go out the outside air will come in. What do I do with my shoes, pants, umbrella, and the towel I dried the dog off with? What about the lawn now? Will it be safe for tomorrow? Will it contaminate our ground water?

There are certain things I have to do to live my life. There are a lot of things I cannot control. I'll live my life as best as I can and take things one day at a time. I'll take my dog out to go potty no matter if it is raining or not. There's a lot of things I just don't know but, I do my best not to fear the unknown. I do know this. When my dog says she has to go....she has to go.


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DavidParkes 5 years ago from Tenerife

I think we established on Steve's Facebook thread that an average person could receive up to 900 diagnostic x-rays each year without receiving a dangerous dose of radiation.

And whilst we don't really want to be exposed to radiation unnecessarily the levels emanating from Japan that are reaching Western Europe are (for now) so small as to be as trivial as a dental X-ray. Still my advice would be to monitor the situation closely for any changes. But for now, based on what scientists are telling us its perfectly safe to go about your life as you were. You need not fear an open window. Not yet at least :D


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your wonderful feedback, Teresa, that echoes a lot of what I feel about the matter!

Thanks too, David, for your latest thoughts on this!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Awesome hub Bard! I also loved the commentary. I have been watching the reports since the earthquake happened. Wondering who to trust! And also, why there hasn't been more discussion about the effect part of the cause.

Thanks again!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, for posting your comments, RealHousewife!


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LillyGrillzit 5 years ago from The River Valley, Arkansas

Dear Bard of Ely,

Awesome article! I followed the link to your Facebook debate, quite a bunch of intelligent discussion, even heated, it is nice to see people using thought, training and education to use in those arguments. Excellent all around, and thank you for posting this.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks for checking out the Facebook thread too and posting, LillyGrillzit! In the words of John Lennon: "I'm only trying to get me some truth, just give me some truth..."


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I don't have FB Bard - I wish I could follow that thread. Maybe I'll have to set one up again. I feel like I'm missing out:(.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

It is very long and heated debate and has comments from film-maker Chris Everard, medical doctor Paul Nery amongst others.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

That is interesting, if my daughter ever comes home again, (she's 22 you remember those days:) I'll have her hook me up! I'd really love to see what is going on. I really need to get a FB.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

You will find it interesting I would think!


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I am sure I really would. I was glued to the television for the first two weeks of the disaster watching CNN. Then the whole Libya thing broke out - so much mass confusion with both issues!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

As Dylan sang in All Along the Watchtower: "There's too much confusion..."


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

Ha! - and hopefully, "The times they are a changing...:)


Jalus 5 years ago

Good article. Thanks for the information you provide here, I'll have to check out the debate on your FB.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Jalus!


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manmade76 5 years ago from Kolkata

Its a great concern for the whole world.Thanks for your great Hub


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I agree, manmade76! Thanks for posting!


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lmmartin 5 years ago from Alberta and Florida

Have we forgotten the massive amounts of radiation in the past -- all that testing, two bombs exploded in Japan, Chernobyl: and we all survived? Yes, it's good to keep an eye on things, but in truth, there's little we can do about it. What will be, will be. Fear and panic is certainly not the answer. Good hub. Lynda


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thanks, Lynda! They are running sight-seeing tours to Chernobyl now!


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chamilj 5 years ago from Sri Lanka

Awesome Hub Bard of Ely. You clearly explained subject that hard to understand for common people.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you, Chamilj!


Marissa 5 years ago

This is a very excellent blog Steve. This is an important issue. The powers that be have decided to build all these plants on the ring of fire (major fault lines). My friend in San Francisco is buying bottled water, but the studies at UC Berkeley have come up with 180 percent higher than safe levels of radiation in their tap water. I suggested that he get a water filter for the house so he doesn't shower or bathe in it. I am worried. I have just moved back to the east coast of the US 2 hours north of New York City. I have well water and need a filter for other reasons. Well water is better as far as radiation is concerned. Here is a link on the studies at UC Berkeley in California. Some people say 18000 percent above safe standards. It is confusing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9W97tqjjzg


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback, Marissa! I agree it is all very confusing and sadly millions of people have been living in areas that the radiation in the air has covered. These islands have been amongst places hit by the jetstream. Most people are ignoring it all!


Marissa 5 years ago

It is everywhere. It is going all over the world. Through the 1960's and 70's they had tested bombs 1000x the radiation levels than that of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

This does not include the Depleted Uranium problem, Plutonium and the oil spill. The oil spill is causing mass animal kills, millions of fish are washing to shore and birds are falling from the sky especially down south in the US. Right now massive amount of ocean life is washing to shore. Recently, 1 million sardines washed up dead on the shore of California and they tested the water. There was NO oxygen in the water. I have never seen such devastation in the world until this past year. I am worried. Very worried. They are not telling us everything. That is for sure. I am sure that Europe has just as much to worry about. I am not sure that California is the only place with something to worry about. Canada as well etc....etc...etc....all over the world!!!!!!!!!!


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gajanis786 5 years ago

Thank you Bard of Ely for writing a very informative and educative hub for the benefit of general audience on a subject that needs to be dealt with all the care and expertise......no doubt the basic need is to make people more educated regarding this tragedy and also help them know the best possible remedies and cure for the ones who have been suffered from these tragedies.I am sure all our collective struggle and efforts in combating such dilemmas will bear fruit soon.Thanks.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Marissa, you are right and I saw the news of which you speak! I have been looking at sites about Chernobyl though and amazingly the wildlife has done better in many ways without the humans there so life can go on and I see there are people that have returned to live just outside and they are even running sight-seeing tours there! Surely we need to stop adding to the problem with more oil drilling and more nuclear reactors they are creating if we cannot even deal with the consequences of what we have! That is my logical thought but this planet isn't run by logic and sanity!

Thanks Gajanis786!


Marissa 5 years ago

It is sad. The generations after 1950's have to deal with having their DNA damaged. Dr. Weston Price thought that there was something wrong with the dental formation of the teeth due to poor nutrition but I think that damaged DNA is part of the dumming down of the masses. This is probably not totally intentional. I feel that the genetic health of humans and animals is in jepordy.

I am not saying that everyone who is born after 1945 is a mutant pygmy but we have been genetically messed up on the whole. I am making generalizations. There are some lucky ones but in general.....


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

The reports I found online about wildlife in Chernobyl gave me more hope for nature surviving and maybe it will be like that in Japan in the dead zone? I don't think anyone knows what the long-term effects on humans or wildlife are going to be or the short-term for that matter! I like Markus Rothkranz's positivity about it all and can only hope he is right!


Marissa 5 years ago

I would love to be in a fantasy and dye my hair blond with blond streaks, but people who live on the east coast of the US might be more in reality than some people in LA or Hollywood. Those people tend to feel less connected to the real world. ahahahah. I know my sister lives in LA and they avoid reality and want to live in fantasy. She works for Disney.

Nothing against bleach blonds but reality is knocking on the door. Yes, there is much to be positive about. Nature will survive us long after we are gone as a species. Life will go on on some other planet and start from the ground up again, but we have to grounded in reality at some point. God is love, I hope for hope, yet there is a reality of the fragile web of life here on earth. We are used to being spoiled. People who are real don't need to dye their hair or streak it with very commerical promotion of themselves. Markus is a little fake for my taste. From day to day he is probably a downer like alot of people ahahaahah.

I know we need to cheer up and not get negative, but some very serious problems are going on and we have to be prepared with survival skills beyond foraging.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I can appreciate the points you are making, Marissa, and because I am taking this matter seriously I was motivated to write this hub but where we go from here I cannot say. With regard to foraging and eating wild foods though I have just been quoted in The Ecologist in an article about eating weeds. I was called a "weed expert and singer." I am hoping to find work writing about these matters.


Marissa 5 years ago

That should get you a big big following. People love weed and weed experts ahahahahah.

They also love music that can compliment their weed experience. I would love to a positive person and sometimes I am guilty of avoiding reality and being way too idealistic. I am afraid of believing in hope that may not be reality. It is difficult to know what reality actually is with our finite minds. David Icke speaks about this. We can't possibly know what reality is or what the future holds whether negative or positive. All I know is, we are living in a crazy world. There just seems to be too many things that are abnormal. Survival of the species is the first thing that comes to mind when we hear of all these disasters. It is natural. Take care of yourself out there. I am in a gorgeous place now. I feel positive in my new home, but I am afraid of becoming too positive because I am always afraid of avoiding reality whatever that is.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

You are sounding very positive, Marissa, so your new home is clearly a good place for you despite all the madness and disasters in the world. I agree it is difficult to know what reality is or what the future holds. You take care of yourself too!


marissa 5 years ago

I am not sure that I should say that I am positive or negative. It sounds good to say that you are positive.

I love sunshine. Today it is not sunny out. The world is a weird place. I do feel that things are out of control right now. The average person can not control the big picture and that is why we tend to get frustrated. A small group of people are in control of our future in some ways. The world is a beautiful place. Japan was on my top list of places to travel for a vacation. It is a very sad situation. Japan is so gorgeous and filled with beauty.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I agree that the world is indeed a beautiful place and a weird place too! Sadly today's news from Japan is not good at all!


Marissa 5 years ago

Has it gotten worse? What do you mean today's news is not good at all? I am checking to see what is going on.

I check Alex's videos to see what they have to say.


Marissa 5 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obxRoIn1at4

This should cheer you up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Marissa, yes, from what I can see the official version is now saying it is a Level 7 disaster! How bad it really is time will tell!


Marissa 5 years ago

Where did you hear this? This is terrible!


Marissa 5 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5KhUdHNoSE

This is terrible. Sorry for posting twice. This is frightening. Sorry for being negative!

I hope it is not worse than Chernobyl in the end.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Well there are reports in the mainstream and alternative media saying how terrible this is and warnings and at the same time there are others in both sides of the media saying it is not as bad as it is being made out. I just watched a video of Benjamin Fulford talking about how he is in Tokyo and the levels where he is are normal and that there is a fear campaign being created worldwide to cause people to fear radiation that isn't there! So are Markus and Benjamin right or should we listen to the dire warnings? Not a lot I can do personally but carry on with my life as best I can. I think the real worry is that there are many more such nuclear reactors in the world that are no more safe than the Fukushima one!


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teresa8go 5 years ago from Michigan, USA

I just read on unknowncountry.com, Whitley Strieber's web site, that milk samples from Phoenix and Los Angeles contain the max amounts of iodine-131 contamination the EPA allows and cesium-137 has been found in milk from Vermount. Also a very big part of the U.S. farm belt has one of the highest concentration of radioactive isotopes in rainwater. (Whitley got this information from the

Forbes Magazine website - reported by Jeff McMahon.)

Tuesday on National Public Radio I heard that that a lot of people who drank contaminated milk after the Chernobyl accident ended up with thyroid cancer.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I am currently writing a hub about Benjamin Fulford's views on this and he used to write for Forbes magazine as it happens. It is difficult to know who to believe and what the reality is!


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SUSIE DUZY 5 years ago from Delray Beach, Florida

This is a real scary situation. And we wonder why so many are dying of cancer. It's thinks like this that we have no control over that causes it.


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RealHousewife 5 years ago from St. Louis, MO

I can't wait to see the new hub Bart. I have been following and wondered what you would think when I got a news alert that it was raised to a level 7!


Marissa 5 years ago

It's funny you should speak about Ben Fulford. I found out about him a couple weeks ago. He was speaking about Haarp and Japan's earthquakes. I tend to believe that there is a real threat of real kind. I have also seen the videos about Chernobyl and how nature has taken over that area. No one knows how this will affect the genetic health of every species. It is my gut feeling that this disaster is real! I think that they don't want to cause fear in the public, just the opposite. They don't want mass hysteria. I think that it is deady and serious. It is just an opinion.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

Thank you for your feedback, Susie, RealHousewife and Marissa!

Marissa, I greatly value your opinions though we don't always agree as you know. I have been aware of Ben for several years and in fact did a hub about him. I liked his message when I first heard him but so many questions about what is real and what isn't, although yes he has the real credentials of having written for Forbes,being an author in Japan and did interview David Rockefeller! It is all serious but we have to carry on and best I can do is to do so whilst trying to find out more!


Marissa 5 years ago

I have listened to numbers of videos from Ben and I think he is very interesting. What he says doesn't shock me though. I do not know how serious the radiation risks are. I know very little. We have very finite minds. All of us.

No one can prove if this earthquake was caused by Haarp though. It is insane enough that they build nuclear plants on fault lines. It is best to keep things simple. Solar energy is one thing that keep coming up on blogs.

I do feel that our DNA is definitely in jeopardy. I think that our genetic cold is weakening. Our biggest problems are with genetic weakness in certain strains in the public. These people are in greater numbers as our planet and the eco-system is also weakening.


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pmccray 5 years ago from Utah

Wonderful and timely piece. Unfortunately, I don't trust corporate run media or governments to tell mankind the whole truth. They claim we're not equipped to handle reality and plus the need to cover up for any accountability or loss of profit. I take it one day at a time hopefully we're not in danger, but only time will tell.


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Bard of Ely 5 years ago from Lisbon, Portugal Author

I would be inclined to agree with you and I also take it one day at a time!

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