Intelligence, Relevance, and Logic are all missing in politics and Religion

Who are The Angry Americans

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The Angry Americans

We are a country possessed by, and obsessed with:

  • political liars
  • religious interferences in Government.
  • corrupt politicians.
  • and where greed is good and back stabbing is the norm.

Without any intelligence, logic, or relevance

There is NO logic, or relevance in touting one's religious beliefs in a political debate..

The 'logical' conclusion for doing so is to gain the support of the self-righteous, brainwashed zealots of the vast numbers of religious cults in this country.

Although people are assured their freedom of religion in this country, it has no "relevance" in politics, law, basic rights, or freedom of choice.

Battling over "same sex marriage" in a broken jobless economy has no logical relevance or intellectual consideration; except for the sole purpose of the manipulation of the religious, and small narrow minded, cult members.

Backing corporate America in lieu of the American people has no logic, or relevance, and is certainly defiantly degenerative in a country that was founded on "democracy".

Embracing greed as a goal for anyone to strive for is as illogical, reprehensible and as useless as most organized religions themselves are, or have become.

Destroying women's rights and attempting to portray women as insignificant is one of the lowest depths that any political party has embraced as their strategy. It is not only illogical, or irrelevant, it is insanity.

Rick Santorum's recent attacks on Holland is also one of the most dangerous, illogical, critical displays of irrelevance; and just plain gross stupidity.

The "threats" (or 'campaign promises' as they are currently being referred to) by the GOP candidates to incorporate religion into our governmental process is highly irresponsible, illogical, without and relevance, without any rational merit and extremely dangerous to our basic rights and freedoms in this country.

America's most lacking attributes

What is lacking most in this country:


  • a. the ability to learn and understand, or to deal with, new or trying situations.
  • b. the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment, or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria.


  • A science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration: the science or ability of using the rudimentary principles of reasoning.


  • A relationship to the matter at hand.
  • Practical and social applicability.
  • The ability (as of an information retrieval system) to retrieve material that logically satisfies the needs of the user.

America's most abundant attribute

The one thing that is found in vast abundance in America:


  • To use, or play upon, by artful, unfair, or insidious means - especially to one's own advantage.

Without logic or vision

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Personal opinions are not pertinent

Personal opinions that are based on religious beliefs, or ignorance, have no relevance in governmental decisions, or the law.

This is not a 'blanket' statement - this is where logical discernment comes into play.

One would not be expected to yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater, just because of the 'freedom of speech' that we all hold so near and dear.

Neither would we expect special considerations for those who commit murder, rape, grand theft (exception being wall street activities, bank activities and politicians who are all exempt from our laws), because they are minorities in this country and represent no moral issues.

However 'logical discernment' does not include the blatant attempts to censor the Internet for "moral" reasons, or for "profit" by those who are desperately trying to pass laws to do so.

Neither does banning same sex marriages based on irrational discrimination by those religious fanatics that try to push their staid beliefs onto others as if those beliefs have any relevance at all to most people with a working, functioning intellect.

This irrelevant crap does not belong in politics and neither do candidates who run their platforms on these irrational, irrelevant, illogical and senselessly ignorant ideologues.

by: d.william 02/26/2012

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gregas 5 years ago from Corona, California.

Hi D., You have 4 highlighted words with definitions. Only 1, manipulation, fits the politicians of today. And I mean all politicians. Greg

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xstatic 5 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

Hi D.

I agree with you wholeheartedly on the injection of religion into politics. Santorum regrets the sepearation of church and state. I say they MUST be separate and that religion has no place in my government. I'm sure you will get many negative responses from right wing Hubbers, but I do not wnat to live in a theocracy.

Obama must be reelected to preserve real democracy intended by the founders.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Thanks for being the first to read and comment. Yes, that was my contention when i wrote this rant after hearing Mr. Santorum on the news. He is one scarey man.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Thanks for your comments. Let us hope that the majority of the population feels the same way. If ANY of those GOP hopefuls are elected we are literally doomed.

Mr. Santorum made a statement on the news again last night that he does not believe in the separation of church and state, and that Mr. Obama is "pushing" a college education in this country because in college our students are brainwashed to think liberal, and that the majority of them turn their backs on their religions because of it.

He IS part true in his statement: Not as the reason why Mr. Obama is pushing for higher education, but that when people receive an education, they realize just how inane those religious fairy tales they were bombarded with as children, really are.

I have added a new video to show just how foolish people have been over the years to believe these non truths.

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alian346 5 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

Hello, young man.

Well written - we are aware of Santorum over here and the whole thing would be ridiculously funny if not so serious.

Of course, church and state should be separate - it is here, more or less, as we still have a few bishops and things in the House of Lords.

There is no way that Mr Obama isn't going to win in the November elections. What is necessary, between now and then, of course, is positive economic data to assure his win.

If not, of course, you know you will be welcome in the UK!

All the very best from


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f_hruz 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Graet hub!

Your outrage is right on ... 100%

The BIG issue raised in video 2 about 'Government Takeover' should have been ripped to bits by the media and the people ... but where are the people with guts and brains like you in that place called US of A - are you just part of a hand full?

Well, and video 3 is simply tops! :)

Where did you find such a great one? lol

My admiration for speaking out loud and clear ... again!

Franto in Toronto

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Thanks for reading and commenting. I wish i could be as sure as you about Mr. Obama being re-elected. We all know that Mr. G.D.Bush (not a misprint - i am sure you know what G..D.. stands for even in the UK) was not really re-elected in 2004. With these new electronic voting machines and the corruption in everything else, i will continue to maintain that all of our future elections will be won by which ever party has the best and fastest computer hackers available.

I was just discussing the elections with an old friend and she agrees with me that if Mr. Obama does not get back in in November, we seriously need to consider Canada as an option. But the UK would be good too.

Besides, with you and Cal in the UK that is 2 people more, that i know, than in Canada. L.O.L.

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AlexK2009 5 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

I have read several times that the Founding Fathers were very clear they were building a republic, not a democracy and that they regarded democracy as little better than mob rule. Unfortunately I do not have the references handy.

If this is right then the American Political Elite are following right in this tradition.

Democracy is probably the last thing politicians want, other than being out of office.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author


Thanks for reading and your comments. Yes,i am but one of a very few who does not fit into the mainstream mentality in this country. I am the enemy of the state, the government and religion, (probably the anti christ as well) because i have my own opinions and not mirror those of the brain washers (and brain washed). But what what frightens those who vehemently oppose me is that these are NOT just "opinions". I only speak the truth. I am glad you enjoyed the videos. And i am correcting my oversight as soon as i finish these replies to you. Scroll up to see the caption over Video 3 as amended. Thanks.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

I believe you were misinformed. I have put a link to the official government site that provides any information you would like on our founding fathers' intentions.

I don't know which tradition you are talking about, but it is general knowledge that the current version of the GOP sees democracy as a failed system, and their intentions are to destroy it altogether. They have nothing to replace it with except plutocracy run by corporate america. Or the other equally distasteful entity: theocracy.

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alian346 5 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

I was also under the impression that the person who was in the White House before Mr Obama wasn't even elected in 2000 - the word 'chad' comes to mind.


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f_hruz 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Thanks for the link, D!

Come and visit us in Canada any time you feel like it. I in Toronto on lake Ontario, not too far from Niagara Falls.

Keep up the good work against mind pollution, religious and nationalistic. Too much flag waving is a good sign of brainwashing and that fascism maybe near.

When big money has the power it's got in the US today, people and voting don't count for much anymore ... even Obama buckles down to big business - he enjoys the perks of the job a lot more than to take a chance of following JFK into world history!


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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Thanks for commenting. I am afraid you are correct on the 2000 'election' as well as the 2004 fiasco. Karl Rove what the "woman behind the man" for G.W. Bush. He is a shyster and a crook, no better than the ordinary mafia hit man.

I am not familiar with the word 'chad' - i told you i was not too bright.

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d.william 5 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

You are welcome. Canada was my first choice if i have to leave because the radicals have taken over the U.S. Not too far from the Northern Maine eastern border where i grew up. It does sadden me to see Mr. Obama bending to the whims of the GOP in an effort to promote harmony and cooperation. But instead they see this as a sign of weakness. I think the winds were knocked out of his sails when the House was taken over by those really radical tea party members. I don't think anyone anticipated that move. If the elections are honest ones this year we will see the Democratic party back in the majority again.

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b. Malin 5 years ago

Simply answer, NO, no one in Politics has a MIND of their own. I think they might start out with the Right Intentions and have Noble Expectations on what to do... what is Right for the American Public...But then, the LEFT and the RIGHT start to Fight, and the Losers are all of US. TERM LIMITS, TERM LIMITS...And when they get together... they need to REALLY, REALLY, WORK TOGETHER to make our Country the BEST and the Strongest...Dreamer am I? Perhaps, but this is my Country and regardless who's in POWER it will survive...I HOPE. Good Thought Provoking Hub, D. William.

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calpol25 5 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Hi Dee

Brilliant hub you make some great points.

I dont think politicians can think for themselves its as if when they take the job, they go through some great big machine that removes all decency, fairness and truth away from them and replaces them with two faces, an uncontrollable urge to lie and hate, as well as becoming drunken with power.

We have a joke here in England that if you want to make a politician taller, just give him viagra as all politicians are d*cks lololololol!

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alian346 5 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

I believe a 'chad' is or was a piece of paper which gets a hole punched in it at some point in the election process for each voter in some states and that in 2000 there was a lot of doubt as to the legitimacy or not of certain 'chads' in certain states.

Sorry - I'm not up to speed with the US electoral process!


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always exploring 5 years ago from Southern Illinois

It scares the heck out of me when i think about electing a president who would govern the country on religion philosophy. Can you imagine the fighting?, each denomination demanding they are the only true one. President Obama must be elected again....Great hub...

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f_hruz 5 years ago from Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Can you imagine two modern US religions forming a coalition and running that place as the United Mormontology? :)

I always enjoyed his views on manipulation, brainwashing and religion ... he told it as it is - it's not your country any more. You just life there, if you are not part of the establishment ...

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BobbiRant 4 years ago from New York

Politicians think we are stupid so they talk down to us something wicked. They make no sense and I must say, one might think the GOP would have learned something, anything, four years ago, guess not. "Anyone, anyone, anyone?" Ferris Bueller had nothing on these people.

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Credence2 4 years ago from Florida (Space Coast)

D., Rightwinger is synonomous with illogic, The 'Gods Must be Crazy'. Are these people committing political suicide? I just wish that they would do it quietly.

They can't be serious, with Limbaugh and Trump leading the flat earth crowd into the promised land. That promised land will actually be over the precipice come this November.

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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Well, this is embarrassing. I was updating some of my old hubs and ran across this one with all these wonderful comments that i somehow missed with replies. So, i will attempt to rectify this immediately, and apologize for this oversight.

I certainly appreciate all of you for having taken the time to read and comment on this article, and hope that this delay has not been misinterpreted as a slight intended to any of you.

If you are accused of being a 'dreamer' then there are many of us. I agree that limiting the terms of politicians might have some impact on motivating them to actually do some work for the people for a change, but it will take more than that. Punishing them for taking money from any other source while serving the public would certainly curtail their self serving tendencies as well.

Your comments are hilarious, but unfortunately too close to the truth. There also needs to be some kind of criteria for those who run for congress. Like having an education beyond the 3rd grade level, and swearing an oath to serve the people and not their wealthy benefactors. I like the idea of the public having the right of recall, but it is not being used often enough.

Thanks for the explanation, and your are correct that there were many improprieties in the 2000 and 2004 elections both. And we can expect more of the same in 2012, since there is no way to validate votes anymore with these electronic voting machines that are easily hacked and easily manipulated to alter results. We are truly at the mercy of the hackers, and manipulators, and the lucky winners are?: The party with the most intelligent, and fastest computer hackers.

I certainly agree that just the thought of our country being run based on religion is extremely frightening. And the Mormon religion is as whacky as any of them, if not even more so. Thanks for reading and commenting to you as well. All input is appreciated even if from another country. (I have to be nice to you, because if those crazy religious people do take over the U.S. Government in Nov. 2012, i will be moving to Canada and might need a friend or two there) L.O.L.

Thanks for your comments. It IS quite scarey when you see the current GOP running on the same platform that G.W.B. ran on that did not work then, and yet they expect it to miraculously work when they do it again in 2012-2016.?? Canada here i come. Let us hope you are correct, and they do run themselves all over a cliff and not back into control of this great country of ours. It really amazes me to watch the negative campaigning on T.V. that they expect people to actually believe. The only way any of this stuff could possibly be believed is if the only T.V. station that a person watches is Fox network.

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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Hi D.william I remember this hub too, one of your greats xx

Hope all is well x :)

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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Thanks kiddo. I have not forgotten you and will be visiting your hubs in the near future. I have been redoing all my old hubs to bring them up to standards. But can't resist adding a new one now and then. xx2u2

P.S. i like your new picture.

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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Hi d.william

I look forward to your visit, have a few more hubs you will love and one I just published, I know its right up your street.. I keep meaning to make time and do my old hubs up, but its getting round to it I suppose..

Thanks, Ian (Alian346) took the picture we were in Carlisle having a drink and working out the next LGBT Person we were gonna write about, plus he had came for a visit to see his family, and it was so funny because his phone was playing up and it went off and photographed me with him swearing at it, you would have giggled like I was.

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alian346 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

I do not swear - much - only when provoked!

Honestly, Dave, you should come and join us at one of our meetings - we'd have you falling off the sofa - hilarious does not even come close - look at Cal's face!!

How are you? Well I hope - and happy.

We're now into quizzes - seven for you to do - and Cal has been putting the world to rights in his other Hubs!

We're having a wee rest from our LGBT Hubs as we have reached 100.


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

Oh, my. 100? Really? And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

I visited one of Cal's forum threads. Did not leave a comment. But reading all the comments just confirms my resolution to never, ever visit the forum threads again. i preach to some of the screamers on my hubs that the comment bar is meant for constructive and half way intelligent conversations, debates, or discussions, not name calling, or verbally bashing the writer of the hub. I could not be as kind with some people after reading those comments to Cal.

I will be visiting soon, as i have nearly completed the updating of my old hubs.

I am Always glad to receive your comments on mine.

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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

Hi D,william x

Its taken me years to be kind to those people, because I know how much that will annoy them even more as they only want to provoke a reaction from me and to be honest if I react that would make matters a lot worse and they would win, but by being kind and refusing to show anger to them I win lol :)

I look forward to your visit and cant wait to see your comments :)

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alian346 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

Tip of the iceberg? - absolutely!

I agree with you about these forums - can be very hurtful.

Great to hear from you too - feel like we're old friends - well, we are!!


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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

I agree with your comments and basically i feel the same way. I always say that i do not hate those who hate me, i simply feel sorry for them, as they are the ones making their own lives miserable by trying to make ours as miserable as theirs are.

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d.william 4 years ago from Somewhere in the south Author

well said. we are friends, and we are old. L.O.L.

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calpol25 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland, UK (At Home With My Wonderful Partner)

I certainly agree with you there dee thats why I wont answer them with any malice just kindness that shows them that they cant make me miserable lol :)

We certainly are the best of friends all three of us, I hope you do come over here and meet us some time that would just be the best time ever. :)

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alian346 4 years ago from Edinburgh, Scotland

All I can say, Dave, is that I'm trying unsuccessfully to get back on the sofa. Have you ever been to the Sahara?

No malice here!!!

And I would like to be associated with the remarks of the last (young!) speaker.


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