MR. OBAMA SAYS LET THEM EAT CAKE

All Cartoons via:http://mbmusings.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/obama-political-cartoons/

MR. OBAMA SAYS, “LET THEM EAT CAKE.”

Mr. Obama didn’t actually say that, but he might as well have. I’ll keep my editorial comments to a minimum, Mr. Obama’s actions and INactions speak loudly enough for themselves.

This Memorial Day weekend, as is traditional for all Presidents, Mr. Obama has chosen NOT to go to a ceremony at Arlington Cemetery to honor our fallen heroes. Instead – apparently his dance card was already full. He’ll be going with Mrs. Obama to Chicago for something on the barbie -- possibly some hamburgers and wieners...And later this weekend, he’ll be hosting a party for Paul McCartney. I’m not making this up.

Louisiana’s Governor Bobby Gindal has been asking for weeks for EPA permits to make it possible to begin to put barriers into the Gulf to protect their shoreline. So far – nothing has happened. No permits, no answers as to why there will be no permits. It has been over 30 days since the oil spill began. This oil spill literally threatens an entire region of our country for an undetermined number of years. Talking heads are sent to say, “We have our foot on the neck of BP…” and if they don’t fix this, we’ll drag them out and take care of things.

1) They can’t fix it, it’s been 30 days and matters are much, much worse, not better.

2) The Coast Guard made a statement – So you’re going to pull them out? And replace them with who or what?!

3) No plan, no ideas, just empty rhetoric.

Mr. Obama says, “Let them eat cake…”

The stock market is in free-fall. Joblessness is nationally in the double digits. Mr. Obama will be having a party in Chicago and meeting a UK celebrity at the White House. “Let them eat cake…”

Europe is inches away from crashing and burning. Never mind just Greece, we are talking all of Europe. The Europeans have a system in place that the Obama administration has been implementing by increments for our own U.S. economic system. The latest, Mr. Al Franken has proposed frightening regulations by the government for our entire economic regulatory system. Scary stuff. The situation is critical. Mr. Obama says, “Let them eat cake…”

Haiti isn’t healed yet after their devastating earthquake. They are imploding. Mr. Obama says, “Let them eat cake…”

Iran has spat in the collective face of America despite Mr. Obama’s Apology tour. They are inches away from launching nuclear weapons. The American people are deeply concerned about this escalation and the Obama administration’s virtual silence on this. “Let them eat cake…”


Mr. Obama has given ONE – count them – ONE press conference since taking office. Hope, Change TRANSPARENCY? “Let them eat cake…”

Our soldiers, on this Memorial Day weekend, are dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many are in hospitals as I write this, dying, suffering – trying to learn to live without a limb. Mr. Obama apparently couldn’t squeeze in any plans to visit any of them. “Let them eat cake…”

This is merely a short list of just the elitist earmarks of the Obama administration and the public persona of the elitist First Couple. Our President has time for so many things – like a fund raiser for Barbara Boxer in California, stumping for Cap and Trade and Obamacare (even after it’s passed) – but he has no time for any of the above. You draw your own conclusions. I’m going for a piece of cake and then I'm going to throw up...

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jiberish 6 years ago from florida

Obama believes that it's a waste of time to visit Arlington, after all these guys are already dead, and won't be able to vote. He is a disgrace! Keep Hubbing!


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

You said it jiberish! I hadn't thought of it that way - but you're absolutely right!


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sheila b. 6 years ago

You have made it obvious what Obama's priorities are. Where is his supposed liberal concern for people and the environment? What are we to think? He's doing nothing, letting all situations worsen - why? Actually, his motives are becoming transparent, aren't they.

Loved the cartoons.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Sheila B. - you are absolutely right - in a way, he IS being very transparent, isn't he?

I have vowed not to be so acid with my words when I write politically. I realized - I don't have to add the words - all I need do is describe - the rest speaks for itself, doesn't it? Especially with regard to this President. Just plug George W. Bush into any of these things, even ONE of these matters - the media, the Democrats the liberals would be howling nonstop! It's unbelievable...


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maven101 6 years ago from Northern Arizona

We all know what happened to the last person to declare " Let them eat Cake !! "....ahem...Larry


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Cari Jean 6 years ago from Bismarck, ND

It's actually sort of heartbreaking how uncaring and uncompassionate this guy is.

The cartoons speak volumes.


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

I was curious so I looked up his agenda. He is going to Chicago to the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery, it is a Veterans cemetery. He has only been back to Chicago 3 times since being president. I think if he does indeed eat a burger and spend 10 minutes with his family, you should probably cut him some slack.

I couldn't find anything to validate your point about the EPA denying LA the ability to build barriers. I did see that he wants to protect specific islands with sandbags and filed a request last week. The problem seems to be that they are short of booms and struggling to find more. Your point should be about Jindal. Why is the Governor of LA supporting the "Drill baby Drill" slogan and rhetoric but he has no preparation or disaster plan. Look at the terrible situation he put his state in by allowing BP to drill without a disaster recovery plan or without any preparation on his end as well. I believe it was LA that gave the permit to drill to BP?


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Tom Whitworth 6 years ago from Moundsville, WV

cjv123,

The regional Obama mouthpiece above has now spoken. LCRBlogger is that mouthpiece!!!!!!!!!

That's how he has access to Obama's agenda.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

LRC: I would cut the President slack if - he visited the troops more than one time in Afghanistan. If he visited the troops in Walter Reed - a stone's throw from where he resides - at least once a month.

I'd cut the President some slack if he didn't go golfing more times in his year and some months as President than President Bush did in his entire eight years as President.

I'd cut him some slack if he would invite some war heroes to the White House instead of one of the Beatles ON MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.

You misunderstand what I wrote about Gindel - I don't know what you're talking about "Drill Baby Drill." That is irrelevant at this point. What is very relevant - stop the spill from coming to the shores of the Gulf states.

What I didn't write: the EPA DENIED the permits - the EPA hasn't even bothered to answer the requests for permits! That's why you can't find it. Stay focused here. Gindel asked for the permits from the EPA. Gindel gets no answer. Why isn't the President ON THIS? When FEMA didn't act INSTANTLY the media was in a total lather that President Bush "didn't do anything" because he hated black people. Why - after 30 days is this situation worse and Mr. Obama is going to a barbecue and having a party with Paul McCartney on MEMORIAL DAY when all of this is happening? Why? Because his actions speaks much louder than his words, "Let them eat cake."


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Well Maven I'd like to add to your comment but I'm not going to write what I thought. I will say though - after all - I am just one of the little people - "Let them eat cake." Mr. Obama is SO out of touch with reality - SO out of touch with the average American - he is clueless. After all, I'm just one of those low lifes who turns to "religion and guns" when up against it...[for the record don't own a gun, never have and we've never had one in my house - not even a bee-bee gun].


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Cari- while my son is in the most dangerous area of Afghanistan, while he is there during THE most dangerous time of the year over there I watch this President show his total lack of care for our military (the poppy fields are done - they've sold the crop and the terrorists not only have money in their pockets but leave the fields to fight). I get so, so angry and upset - it IS heartbreaking. It's a good thing I happen to have very low blood pressure...


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Tom - you are so funny - but you know what - you may have something there...I'd like LRCblogger to tell us how he knew the President's agenda...


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

CJV, I used Google to find it. I'm not Robert Gibbs or David Axelrod in disguise as a lowly hubber on hubpages as Tom suggests. By the way, if you want to talk about funny, get a load of this. Tom was posting on my hubs as a guest but using my name "LRCBLOGGER." He was posting comments to make it look like I was saying them. Talk about shady. I guess he didn't realize that his IP address shows up on the posts.

CJV, I do agree with some of your points, specifically about troop visits and visits to Walter Reed. If your going to send them into harms way, you better be willing to face reality head on. However, saying that "drill baby drill" is "irrelevant" is simply allowing us to repeat the same mistakes over and over. We need to hold republicans AND democrats accountable for this spill.

By the way, I'm not this bleeding heart liberal like you might think. I'm actually pretty moderate. I think the conservatives on here are sooooo far right and radical, any opinion that I have equates me to a "mindless liberal" because I don't constantly compare Obama to Hitler.


GodsChild2 6 years ago

I am so pleased with this hub, Ma'am, and how you have managed to express your opinions with a more reasonable tone. Of course, I still have some arguments with your stated facts, but I appreciate your presentation. :)

Would it be alright if I commented on the content of your post? I must tell you that my comments would be in opposition to you, but they would be respectful. If you would prefer that I do not comment, that's certainly your perogative.


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Tom Whitworth 6 years ago from Moundsville, WV

LRC,

All I posted on your hub was as you say "simple google search" of LRCBlogger. I posted your own results if you're ashamed of them stop making them. Then like a weasle you reported me to hubpages. You're contemptible!!!!!!!!!


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

Tom, I have no shame in my hubs. Feel free to read every one of them. Just refrain from posting as a guest and using my name as if you are me.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

GodsChild - disagree away. I don't have any problem with dissent, as long as it's civil and not "flaming" as they call it. We can agree to disagree. I appreciate your comments above and will look forward to your other comments even if we disagree.


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SheriSapp 6 years ago from West Virginia

cjv,

Glad to see you responded to LRC, too bad he REFUSES to accept the truth. There have BEEN plans for how to deal with a spill, but these plans were NOT implemented!! At this point, blame is not helpful, THEY NEED GOVERNMENT HELP!!! Funny how BO wants the government to do EVERYTHINHG they are NOT told by the constitution, but duties like these--REQUIRED--are just ignored. BO needs to stop playing his chidish blame game and be a LEADER!! He may lose the support of the lefty loons who have not previously jumped ship if he continues to golf, have date nights, and IGNORE those who serve this nation.


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eovery 6 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

I think more Obama is away, the better we are. Keep him away from everything!

Keep on hubbing!


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

Sheri, are you suggesting that Obama is not trying to help stop the oil leak? This is so classic conservative blame game. So let me get this straight. In an effort to stay in power, he is letting this leak continue to spill out of control and not helping in order to preside over the biggest oil spill disaster in our history...all in attempt to sway voters to support him? Do you realize how silly that sounds?

The EPA, ACE (Army Corps of Engineers), and the WHite House are doing everything they can to assist and try to stop the leak. You have to realize, it is 1 mile below the water. You can't simply send some divers down there to fix it. They should not have been allowed to drill in the first place. Obama has made all the resources available, BP simply has not spent any of their billions in profit to create a disaster plan or contingency plan. Obama has deployed over 1,100 vessels, about 24,000 personnel, and more than 2 million total feet of boom to help contain it. He also established a BIPARTISAN commission to recommend any solutions or ideas to stop and contain. Why is it that conservatives blame every single thing on Obama? The insane insinuations and correlations don't make a whole lot of sense. Hard to understand your positions when they don't logically add up.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

LRCBLogger- actually - this crowd isn't really "so" far right. That would imply extremists. I'm like-minded with most of them and I'm not extreme in any way. I haven't heard anyone at my Hubs anyway - call Mr. Obama "Hitler." But were you just as offended when they called Mr. Bush that constantly during his Presidency? This was done all the time by the left during Bush's eight years.

But regardless - OK - I was in a rush - you're right - drilling isn't irrelevant - but in a sense it was to my point. That's all I meant. I wanted to clarify what you misunderstood and make my point. Now on to your point.

You want to talk about drilling - we need to be independent from foreign oil. This spill has had terrible consequences, but essentially, oil is what makes the world go round. We need it and we need not to be dependent on others besides ourselves for it. What we need to find out is 1) why this happened and 2) how to avoid it in the future. We don't need to stop drilling for oil anywhere where there is oil in the U.S. be it on land or sea. So we're going to disagree on that. Until we can find a viable alternate source for our fuel anyway - it's a fact of life we have to have oil and we should use own own resources to get it. If it wasn't for the Environmental Nazis - yes - they are Nazis - we would have been oil independent years ago by drilling in Alaska and other places the Eco-fruitcakes stopped us drilling in.

Now - I consider Tom a friend here on Hubpages - if he did what you say he did he shouldn't have. He received the appropriate consequences - so let's let that one go, shall we? Don't personally go after anyone here - let's stick to the subject at hand only. If you have a personal beef with someone I ask that you please take it elsewhere. Let's stay on topic.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Another thing LRC Blogger - the EPA- as of the news today (didn't you read this Hub?!) have NOT been doing all they can. That was one of my points - the EPA won't give permits to Jindel - and Mr. Obama goes on a picnic. So you're mistaken about that one!


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SheriSapp 6 years ago from West Virginia

Just a little clarification here, I am in no way saying that BO is "letting this leak continue" to sway voters. He is much smarter than that!! However, he is facing many obstacles, not the least of which is his incessant desire to place blame on anyone other than himself. This was a horrible tragedy, but he is not sincere in his assertions that his folks have been there since "day one". I am just completely sick of the liberal media's one-sided reporting. Bush was torn to shreds over Katrina,and some of the blame did lie with him. However, BO and his people really need to HELP!! Jindal has said he will build the barriers and face the consequences later. At least HE is showing some leadership. BO wanted this job, now that he has it, he needs to LEAD. What possible reason could there be for a "no answer at all" to Jindal, at least he has a plan.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

P.S. Realized my misspelling of Jindel's name in my comments well after I posted them. I realize it now but didn't want to delete the comment as it was too late to edit. Just FYI.


GodsChild2 6 years ago

Thank you for your permission to dispute your hub, cjv. I have some corrections, comments, and questions for you, Ma’am. This is quite a lengthy comment to post, so if in the future you would like me to send them as a message rather than a posting, please let me know.

I would like to tell you that reading your posts has been beneficial for me, as I have found myself wanting to research your statements. I also do this on other blogs. Quite a political education this is providing me! I try very hard to steer to as unbiased websites as possible, but don’t hesitate in using left or right leaning ones if I deem them appropriate or factual. Okay, on to my comments:

I am assuming you are saying that the topics you list in your hub are reasons why President Obama should not be going out of town this weekend? If I’m wrong in this, please let me know.

1. You say: “And later this weekend, he’ll be hosting a party for Paul McCartney.”

The Paul McCartney celebration is to occur on Wednesday, 6/2/10 rather than on Memorial Day weekend.

2. You say: “Louisiana’s Governor Bobby Gindal has been asking for weeks for EPA permits to make it possible to begin to put barriers into the Gulf to protect their shoreline. So far – nothing has happened. No permits, no answers as to why there will be no permits.” You also say (from your comments): “the EPA DENIED the permits - the EPA hasn't even bothered to answer the requests for permits! ….Gindel asked for the permits from the EPA. Gindel gets no answer.” You are correct that, as of today, it has been exactly two weeks since the original permit was filed by LA. Governor Bobby Jindal. But there have been explanations given as to the reasons for the length of time it is taking to approve the request, and I have found no sources, except for you, who have said there “will be no permits,” or “EPA denied the permits.” From http://bit.ly/a47vsa:

Corps officials say they are working on that request, but even in an emergency they must obey the federal Environmental Protection Act. The Corps' Ken Holder issued the following statement:

"We understand the importance and significance of this emergency permit request and it is a top priority. We are closely monitoring the response effort in the Gulf of Mexico and are very concerned about the potential adverse impacts to the environment due to this oil spill.

We received an emergency permit request from the Coastal Protection and Restoration Authority of Louisiana at 11 p.m. Tuesday, May 11 for work on the Chandeleur Islands and also on all barrier islands from East Grand Terre Island and eastward to Sandy Point.

The permit has been requested “to enhance the capability of the islands to reduce the inland movement of oil from the BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill,” as per the permit request cover letter.

That request is being processed under emergency permit procedures of New Orleans District's General Permit NOD-20. Under the emergency permit procedures, the Corps is still required to comply with NEPA and other applicable laws.

In accordance with the NEPA process, we solicited interagency comments on the State's permit. Those agency comments were provided to the state, which then submitted a revised plan on May 14. The Corps again solicited interagency comments on the state's revision. We are currently evaluating all of this information for potential environmental impacts, as required under NEPA. "

That being said, I understand the need for procedures to be followed correctly as per law, but in cases such as this, it should be permissible for the President to step in and expedite the situation ~ unfortunately from what I understand, the President’s hands are lawfully tied to some extent. I believe more communication from the White House has been needed and not provided to explain this problem to the public, because the President is being unfairly blamed for that in which he has limited control because of typical government bureaucracy and the fact that the disaster was not natural but specifically tied to a private organization. I don’t understand why the White House has been so silent on this huge problem other than to suspect that like in ALL political governing areas, it also holds unscrupulous ties to “big oil.” Personally, it has been very frustrating for me to have to spend a lot of time on the internet trying to find accurate information on this problem. The office of the White House, should be much more present in offering this information to us itself, and to a certain extent is responsible for the bad press it‘s receiving about it.

3. You say: “This Memorial Day weekend, as it(sic) traditional for all Presidents, Mr. Obama has chosen NOT to go to a ceremony at Arlington Cemetery to honor our fallen heroes. Instead – apparently his dance card was already full. He’ll be going with Mrs. Obama to Chicago for something on the barbie…

The President has delegated his VP to attend the Memorial Day ceremonies at Arlington this year. I don’t think the President is required to attend it, although I can’t think of a president who hasn’t been the one to place the wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Yes, this is unprecedented, but it’s not as though the President won’t be recognizing Memorial Day at all. As another commenter has posted here, he will be attending a ceremony at the Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery. How you judge his decision is, of course, yours, and as I understand you come from a military family, I can very well understand and empathize with you over the offense you are taking at his decision.

4. You say: “The stock market is in free-fall. Joblessness is nationally in the double digits. Mr. Obama will be having a party in Chicago and meeting a UK celebrity at the White House.” Well, I have already addressed your error in claiming that the Paul McCartney celebration will be occurring during the Memorial Day weekend, so I would like to use this particular sentence to address your overall tone of complaint for what you apparently see as our President’s lack of concern for the nation. In your remarks in the comments section of your hub you also talk about Obama’s inappropriate golfing excursions as further support for your claim of his inattentiveness to serious issues the nation is currently experiencing. Yes, there are serious things going on in our country right now, but there were very serious things going on during Bush’s presidency as well, and I would venture to say we could state the same thing about all presidencies. I’m going to provide one link of quite a few, actually, where you can read about the extent of GWB’s trips to his ranch during his presidency. Obama, in fact, has only been back to his home once since he took over office. Once! http://bit.ly/dk9o90 How many times do you think Bush had returned to his ranch during his first year and almost a half in office? I can tell you ~ many more. http://bit.ly/aBA6xb Now, I would like to state here that I don’t usually do comparison comments, but since you are the one bringing up differences between the two presidents, I feel okay about it.

5. Amount of press conferences held by Obama. You state one. That is incorrect. http://bit.ly/dvNtDg, and there are many sources available on the internet to find this information, as well as a reminder of early complaints that Obama was saturating the air waves! http://bit.ly/cD9HKZ. There are also accessible sources on the internet regarding Bush’s record of press conferences during his first 18 months in office.)

6. I’m not quite sure what your complaint against Franken’s amendment is. I do know that a surprisingly high number of Republican senators did vote for it and it was approved without a vote from Senator Dodd, which intrigues me. Yes, it does involve added government regulations but I see that as just an additional accountability requirement meant to protect the consumer.

7. You say: “Haiti isn’t healed yet after their devastating earthquake. They are imploding.” I’m not really sure your purpose with this statement. Is President Obama not doing something he should be doing in regards to


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jiberish 6 years ago from florida

After comming back and reading thru the comments, I'd just like to say that the BP accident is one of few over how many years we've been drilling, and while it's unfortunate that they have little experience in sealing off the leak, Obama's lack of interest is shameful. He spends more time vacationing, playing golf and partying than on any major issues concerning this country. He belches out "fill the hole" to his aids on his way to his next vacation. Nice job, Mr. O-I-want-to-be president!


GodsChild2 6 years ago

I'm not sure why the following was absent from my above post (too long of a comment maybe?) so I'm reposting the end. Thanks.

7. You say: “Haiti isn’t healed yet after their devastating earthquake. They are imploding.” I’m not really sure your purpose with this statement. Is President Obama not doing something he should be doing in regards to Haiti?

8. You say: “Iran has spat in the collective face of America despite Mr. Obama’s Apology tour. They are inches away from launching nuclear weapons. The American people are deeply concerned about this escalation and the Obama administration’s virtual silence on this.” Yes, I agree that Iran doesn’t like us very much, and that the Americans are concerned. I think it’s important to keep in mind, however, that long before Obama was elected, he made clear that his approach to Iran would be much different than America’s approach during the Bush years. http://nyti.ms/aSvj14 Presently, his administration is working alongside its allies in implementing this new approach. http://bit.ly/aOGr9j I believe that it is, indeed, risky but am willing to support Obama for now.

Lastly, I share your dismay of Obama’s few and infrequent visits to our military. But I must also keep in mind all that he has on his plate right now. It has seemed that with the exception of his vacations (3 in all, 2 very brief), the President’s visits ANYWHERE have been for specific productive purposes. One thing that we cannot forget is that our president is the father of young children ~ a much different and more demanding family situation than Bush experienced in office. I imagine he is committed to providing quality time for his girls as much as possible, but unfortunately, it is still not an excuse for the moral support of our soldiers to be placed on a back burner, and it is certainly not good publicity to appear as if one is uncaring for our military. This is certainly an area in which he can improve, in my opinion.


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cheaptrick 6 years ago from the bridge of sighs

Y'all can argue about this all you like!Nothing will change!

I'm gonna go out and buy all the fish,shrimp,oysters,etc I can get my hands on!

I LOVE sea food and it's gonna be REAL EXPENSIVE very soon!

Maven!Do you suppose Obama dresses like"the last person who said let them eat cake"?I suspect he may be sharing Mrs Obama's clothes!

Behind closed doors of course.

For now that is:)

Dean


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breakfastpop 6 years ago

Dear cjv,

Having read all the comments on both sides of this issue, it is painfully clear that consensus on any issue facing our country is virtually impossible. When people enter into a discussion with a particular mindset determined to hold firm everyone walks away feeling exactly as they did before. We all have a right to look at the facts and draw our own conclusions. My view is simply this. President Obama is taking a very layback approach to the oil spill. This catastrophe threatens to destroy our coastline and from my point of view we are running out of time. I consider it it a slap in the face that he choose this moment to vacation. As far as honoring the troops is concerned, that's another slap in the face. Obama should be at Arlington laying the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Our brave men and women are serving our country and risking life and limb and the least he can do is show his respect. Great hub cjv. I am rating it up!


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LRCBlogger 6 years ago

beGodsChild2 you have a new fan, thanks for the factual information.

CJV, we don't really know how much oil is in Alaska but we know that the US uses 25% of the worlds oil and it is estimated we hold only 3%. The most recent data on this is from 10 years ago, however, their is data this year that shows the US consumes 3.5x more oil than the next closest country (China). My source for this is below.

Energy Information Administration, "U.S. Crude Oil, Natural Gas and Natural Gas Liquid Resources, 1999 Annual Report," DOE/EIA-0216 (99) (December 2000).

Drilling is not a solution. If we focus on new oil exploration, it will take 2-5 years to find large reserves another 1-2 years to set up rigs, pipelines, etc. The refining process also takes time. All in all, if we focus on drilling, we should be able to get a little bit more oil but in 5-10 years, we'll be buying our solar panels and alt energy products from China, India, etc. The path of drilling is one that could leave the US far behind the rest of the world. If you want to solve our energy problem, encourage your republican lawmakers to support the "fair elections now act". It is not perfect but it would be a massive step in campaign finance reform. Both Dem and GOP lawmakers are tied to our oil & gas companies because of campaign contributions. Our elected officials rarely draft legislation in favor of the people; it is almost always in favor of the special interest groups or large corporations that fill their campaign coffers.

Are you aware that 30 years ago Brazil developed flex fuel vehicles that can run on a mixture of ethanol and gas? Brazil was smart enough to reduce their dependency on foreign oil by using biofuels. How is it that a country with far less resources than the USA can accomplish this but we can not?


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

GodsChild: 1) This is actually considered Memorial Day “week” – for example – Governor Granholm here in Michigan is having a ceremony tomorrow for our Veterens at her home and another ceremony at the state capital. It has been a long-standing tradition that this week – if there would be any social events that the President would attend, it would be with the military or to honor the military. He is the first President since the Civil War NOT to go to Arlington. Because of his hectic schedule it is understood that the President can’t always visit on one of two or three days of the weekend. So the week prior has always been used to schedule such events. There will be no visit to Arlington at all for Mr. Obama. While with this party with Paul McCartney – I stand corrected on the specific fact that it does not fall on the two or three day weekend, IF he had other visits planned to see our wounded soldiers at Walter Reed for example, there probably would be no mention of his hosting a party. That he takes his “precious” time to “meet the stars” is deplorable and disgusting on this of all weeks while refusing to attend anything at Arlington. He shows ZERO consideration for the soldiers HE puts in harms way every single day like my son. My son is in 110 + heat right now, dodging the Taliban and going after them. The lack of human compassion Mr. Obama shows for their plight is stunning.

2) You are completely mistaken, I never wrote anything that said the EPA permits were denied or that there was any statement that they would not be given. I never wrote that. I wrote Jindal has not gotten the permits after two weeks. Jindal has not been given an answer as to why. That is what I wrote. Someone else made those comments that I wrote those things, they too are mistaken. Never wrote it. My point – instead of barbecuing – Mr. Obama should be finding out why and going public to make sure THEY ARE ADMINISTERED.

I also bring you to the fact that a normal procedure to stop the flow from reaching shores – despite what I’m sorry to say is a list of excuses by you – well intentioned, but still a list of excuses as to why the President’s “hands were tied”--- is a “burn off.” This burns off the most toxic materials leaving a heavier sludge that usually sinks right to the bottom, thus wouldn’t have made shore. Today, a Louisiana official who has been monitoring from the air stated on Fox News today that nothing was done by anyone. BP ships were docked just sitting there – the U.S. government did not do a burn off – why? We have been told earlier – because of “concerns for the environment.” That’s Mr. Obama’s hand’s being tied – he owes the Eco crowd. This is a horrible delay that has now resulted in the oil coming to Louisiana shores when it could have been prevented.

3) GodsChild – I am angry to my core that you would make excuses for Mr. Obama by saying “he’s not required to attend” Arlington. That is so, so insensitive. Everyone knows that his visit is not "required." But he is the first NOT to attend in the history of this tradition. And you forget – HE is the Commander in Chief NOT Mr. Biden. Believe me, soldiers like my son know full well the disdain that Mr. Obama has for the military – it is no secret. He could have gone a long, long way to mend this perception. But he is too self-centered – too busy planning star parties to care. That is the height of hubris to bypass his visit to Arlington but have the time to throw a party for some rock star from the UK. It’s obvious Mr. Obama is a very, very poor Commander in Chief – Ye shall know them by their fruit.

What do you think it meant to that soldier – who was so wounded and burned that his right arm was bandaged and he was heavily sedated. His raw flesh seeping and agonizing – but when Mr. Bush walked in, he KNEW that President cared so much for him, he did the super herculean act of saluting, despite the agony. That Sergeant died shortly after – but he knew his Commander in Chief cared for him and it made his last days somehow a little better. Mr. Obama should be so ashamed of himself for not showing grace to at least our wounded. He lives RIGHT THERE near Walter Reed. Yet he never visits. Ye shall know them by their fruit.

I’m going to answer you in two parts. Hubpages allows you to see your full comments when they go too long – but later will cut them off (I don’t know why) – so I’ll answer you in shorter spurts.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

GodsChild: 4) Again – you stand correction. There is absolutely no comparison to Mr. Obama’s vacations and going to Camp David. Camp David has always been – (throughout history) considered “the other White House.” It is only 70 miles from the Whitle House and fully and totally equipped to be a working retreat as all Presidents have essentially used it for. To compare the obsessive golf outings and trips to Hawaii and trips to other vacation spots the Obama’s have gone to Mr. Bush going to Camp David is - I'm sorry to say - riduculous. To dismiss the fact Mr. Obama won’t have time to go to Arlington BUT have time to go to Chicago and have a nice party is a convenient omission for you to make your point. Mr. Obama has beaten all records for playing golf – and he’s only been President a little over a year. Mr. Bush didn’t play that much golf in eight years as President. You’re not thinking clearly because your wish to defend him is making you focus purely on him and not on others - you seem to blindly attempt to defend the indefensible. What about the Obama inauguration – the biggest party ever? It cost quadruple what the last Bush inauguration cost (or any Bush inauguration) at a time when our country was tanking economically. Mr. Obama continually shows a complete lack of compassion for anyone or anything by his actions and inactions like in the case of refusing to go to Arlington on Memorial Day week. Thus the term, "Let Them Eat Cake." Mr. Bush had to dig into our nation's EMERGENCY funds to pay for the Obama inauguration. That is a sickening excess to say the least.

5) Press Conferences – OK – you are right – I stand corrected. I said he has had only one since he has become President. You linked to a story that said he has TWO. Mr. Bush had two to three per MONTH. Mr. Obama has had TWO – according to your own link. The media would be howling if Mr. Bush had been President for over a year and only conducted two formal press conferences. And the quote in the article you linked to from “Fox Nation” that says: “…and held numerous other press availabilities…” is almost laughable! Those are staged events where the White House determines who interviews Mr. Obama, they get the questions in advance and these events are set up by the White House. There is a vast distinction between a Press Conference where the President is asked questions by the Press Corps and he can’t use a teleprompter and the silly excuse that he gave or had other “press availabilities.” So I was wrong – you were right to point out – there have been only TWO press conferences. But please don't attempt to put his countless appearances on T.V. as a Press Conference. That's just "It's all about me" opportunities and can not be compared to a Press Conference.

6) I don’t understand your confusion – what I wrote still stands.

7) I added Haiti in because if President Bush were President and Haiti was in such dire straits after such a long period of time follow a major earthquake, the press would be hammering him because they would say, “It’s his fault, he hates black people.” The double standard is very alive and well.

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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Absolutely Jiberish - you are perfectly right. Thanks so much for adding that.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Thanks for stopping by Cheaptrick!


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Thanks Pop for saying what was in my heart! Love, c


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

LCR - that has been the biggest argument those like you have been using for years. All through the Bush administration - this lengthy time it would have taken for us to drill for new oil would have been done and we'd have the oil. Pure and simple - BUT for the environmental blockades to doing so. By now - we'd be oil dependent! Here is what we have in California/Oregon and Washington coast awaiting us:

"Nearly 11 billion barrels of undiscovered oil and 19 trillion cubic feet of undiscovered gas in the region may be recoverable using existing technology.

Relatively large volumes of undiscovered oil may exist offshore central and southern California, due largely to the presence of Monterey-type strata, which are potential source and reservoir rocks.

Half of the undiscovered, conventionally recoverable oil and gas in the region may be economically recoverable under existing conditions."http://www.anwr.org/features/akeval.htm

Alaska: "That report covers 15 assessed basins in federal waters offshore California, Oregon and Washington. Prolific production from the Monterey formation in the offshore California area, including the Point Arguello oil field, once produced high industry interest." Same source - and this was in 1998! We would have had vast amounts of oil to use as our resource had the liberals/Democrats in Congress and other not prevented drilling.

You say oil bad - I say it is one resource we HAVE to have RIGHT NOW - and should have had from our own country to end our dependence. Here's another resource that supports the fact that the U.S. does have a lot of oil we should be drilling for. And this is back in 2008: http://projects.newsobserver.com/under_the_dome/ho...

So we can agree to disagree. That's OK - it's quite a bit off topic anyway - and I prefer to stay to the topic at hand of any Hub written if you don't mind, OK with you?

However, the prospective areas are under a drilling moratorium, and environmental opposition to exploration offshore California remains strong.


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Springboard 6 years ago from Wisconsin

This president only has time to call out to the American people when he says "We got the work of the American people done," regarding health care. What? Better than 50% of the American people didn't want it. He only has time to call out to the American people when he notices a black professor might have been harrassed. "Care for a beer guys?" He only has time to call out to the American people when he thinks that a bill he hasn't even read (sorry Gibbs, he may have read it NOW, but not so when he opened his mouth about it) might infringe on the rights of people who don't even belong here in the first place.

Why on Earth would he not speak to the troops, the American people, or speak on the sacrifices so many Americans have made for their country? Does it really need an answer?


GodsChild2 6 years ago

cjv ~ I must take issue with your implication that I seek out facts to defend the President rather than to seek the truth. If anyone is seeking out facts to prove anything OTHER than the simple truth, with all due respect Ma’am, it is you ~ not me. By YOUR OWN admission, you are determined to bring Obama down by exposing him for who you think he really is (insert your many negative terms used in this and past posts by you), and although you think you are doing that with facts, you are NOT. You‘re strong bias and false information is proving that. You publicly insist that you post only THE TRUTH, and expose THE LIES of this administration. You do NOT do this, Ma’am, and I am and have been offering you sources to show that fact to you and others who read your hub, as well as encouraging you to seek out other sources besides your usual, right-leaning ones. I say this very emphatically! I know you will be very upset with me for calling you out on this false claim of yours, Ma’am, and I’m really trying to be respectful, but I see this as an important point to expose, and just to make myself even more clear ~ this action on my part is absolutely NOT in defense of our President, Ma’am, it is in defense of simple TRUTH! I know you won’t/don’t see it that way… “You’re not thinking clearly because your wish to defend him is making you focus purely on him and not on others - you seem to blindly attempt to defend the indefensible,” but I feel it must be said, never-the-less.

Below, are some comments I’ve given you that I feel defend my argument that my debate with you is certainly NOT TO DEFEND the President:

~ “I try very hard to steer to as unbiased websites as possible, but don’t hesitate in using left or right leaning ones if I deem them appropriate or factual.”

~ “I believe more communication from the White House has been needed and not provided to explain this problem to the public, because the President is being unfairly blamed for that in which he has limited control because of typical government bureaucracy and the fact that the disaster was not natural but specifically tied to a private organization.”

~ “I don’t understand why the White House has been so silent on this huge problem other than to suspect that like in ALL political governing areas…” (meaning all political parties, all political positions) “…it also holds unscrupulous ties to “big oil.””

~ “The office of the White House, should be much more present in offering this information to us itself, and to a certain extent is responsible for the bad press it‘s receiving about it.”

~ “…I can very well understand and empathize with you over the offense you are taking at his decision.”

~ “Lastly, I share your dismay of Obama’s few and infrequent visits to our military.”

~ “…but unfortunately, it is still not an excuse for the moral support of our soldiers to be placed on a back burner…”

(I will post the remainder of my response in a separate comment box below...)


GodsChild2 6 years ago

(Continued from above...)

Now to specifically address some of your comments in response to me:

In regards to your belief that Memorial Day actually is Memorial “Week,” I have never heard of that before. I believe that to be a very weak argument on your part. I did, however, express my understanding as to WHY you would be upset with how the President is spending this holiday (see above), and empathized with it. That does NOT show my complete defense of Obama. In fact, I will go even further and tell you that I DO NOT AGREE with this Memorial Day plan of our President. I, too, feel it is disrespectful to our military. He has not personally explained the reasons for his decision, however, so I really don’t feel I have enough information on which to place a judgment upon him, other than personal feelings and speculation. I abhor speculation.

In regards to the president’s vacations issue, you are still in error, Ma‘am. When I spoke of George W. Bush’s vacations to his ranch, I meant just that ~ his ranch in Texas ~ NOT Camp David. The link I provided you with from FactCheck.org (http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-... also does not count trips to Camp David for any presidents as vacation days. (But if I did include Camp David, President Obama has also visited there less times than Bush did in his first year of office.) According to FactCheck.org, President Obama has used less vacation days in his first year in office than either Bush or his father did. (BTW, I don’t understand how you think he has taken more the one trip to Hawaii, maybe you are thinking of Hyannis Port?) The only recent presidents who spent less vacation days in their first years were Carter and Clinton. If you click on this link and read it in its ENTIRETY, you will see that I am still correct on my point, and you are still in error. I also still don’t understand your complaint about Obama’s golfing! Do you feel that Presidents are not allowed avenues in which to alleviate stress? Certainly not, I hope. Maybe if he found avenues not observable to the public in which to relax, you would think more favorably of him? Or at least make sure that photos of him golfing aren’t published when serious matters are going on in the world? When exactly would that be?

On the issue of press conferences, you are still in error, Ma’am. I urge you to read these links in their entirety. This particular link is brand new: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20006076-50... http://mediamatters.org/iphone/research/2010052100... They do quite well in arguing your claims, so I will not take it further here.

You say: “He shows ZERO consideration for the soldiers HE puts in harms way every single day like my son.” C’mon, Ma’am…..”ZERO?” So false, so very false. I suspect your statement is more influenced by your personal feelings as the mother of a soldier and wife of a career military officer, and even though I surely empathize with you on that, it should not be passed off as truth.

In regards to this statement that I quoted of yours: “the EPA DENIED the permits - the EPA hasn't even bothered to answer the requests for permits! ….Gindel asked for the permits from the EPA. Gindel gets no answer.” I guess I misunderstood it. When you prefaced the statements with, “I have not said…” I thought that to mean that although you had not said it yet, you were saying it now. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I’m not going to go into your topic of “burn off,” as I didn’t address it directly in my responses, but will remark that early in the oil-spill, I know there was burn off going on. I am also not going to attempt to address anything about the oil-spill other than the issues you have made of the President’s responses to it, which I have already done, simply because I am certainly not adequately educated on the topic of fixing the problem. I don‘t even think BP and certainly not the Coast Guard are educated about it. This is a precedent situation ~ we have never experienced any oil spill like this before, and hopefully, we will at least learn from it so it never happens again.

I need to stop responding now and get this posted. I’ll conclude with another plea asking you to perhaps think about halting your claims of truth on you hubs. It’s certainly YOUR hub, and you are free to post anything you choose, I just urge you to think about the possible consequences of posting opinions and claiming they are truths. Call them what they are: editorials. Period.


GodsChild2 6 years ago

The FactCheck.org link I provided seems to be cut off. Here is the link: http://bit.ly/aBA6xb. Please let me know if any other links I've provided do not work. Thanks.


GodsChild2 6 years ago

Oops, more broken links! http://bit.ly/aokyha, http://bit.ly/bmhkD1. The first one is for the CBSNews website. The second one is for the MediaMatters website.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Oh my gosh GodsChild - let me just say this - I'm not saying anything is official with regard to Memorial Day - week including the weekend. But I gave you one government official - Governor Granholm - a Democrat - is having something tomorrow - and as far as I know - she is not attending anything else. This is what many state officials and in fact other Presidents have done when their agendas conflict. They have, do and will pick another day prior to the Memorial Day weekend to show their respect for our military. That's all I meant. It happens all the time. I just gave you a perfect example of it. I have ZERO problem with Governor Granholm now spending the rest of her week with whoever doing whatever. She already PAID her respects. In deep contrast, Mr. Obama pays ZERO respect at ANY time prior to Memorial Day weekend - to Arlington which has been historically what every President before him has done since the Civil War! His disregard for the military speaks volumes. The fact that he is the first President to forego this event and then to have other events planned throughout the week only adds insult to injury. I will not be moved on this.

I understand the time you've taken to carefully answer all the rest. But I have to say, I can't go through point by point again. I won't be able to for today and rarely have that kind of time anyway. It's not because you're not important or that your words don't have value. They will remain up for someone else to comment or counter as they see fit. I'm so glad that you've taken the time to carefully make your case. Your case has been made, but I just can't keep doing these very long answers, write my Hubs - write in my novel (which I have yet to get to today) among a list of other things I haven't gotten to just today.

Please don't take this as a slight. Your words will remain and if others visit here they can comment.

Thank you again for taking the time - but for now - I'm going to move on to other topics.


GodsChild2 6 years ago

I totally understad, Ma'am, and I do apologize for the length of my comments, and if I comment in the future, I'll do my very best to shorten them. As long as you read what I have to say, I'm fine with you not responding. Thank you.


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prasetio30 6 years ago from malang-indonesia

Good information from Mr.Obama. I liked this information, because I am from Indonesia. And the title was impressed me much. Good work, my friend. Two thumbs up for you!


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Don't apologize GodsChild - no problem! You didn't do anything wrong - but I just wanted to explain why I wouldn't be answering point by point.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Prasetio thank you so much for reading my Hub and stopping by. I'm very impressed you write English so well. I know I could never speak or write in your native language! God bless you and thanks for making your comments!


GodsChild2 6 years ago

Well, Ma'am, I found out that President Obama's MIA at Arlington Cemetery this Memorial Day is not unprecedented, like some right-leaning "news" sources would like us to believe. (Like I've said before I appreciate your posts because they make me want to research on what you claim, and I usually always seem to find the actual truth.) Apparently, both GW Bush and his father missed doing it at least once (some report GWB missed it more than once), as well as Reagan. This information makes me feel better about our President, especially when I also learned Obama apparently has placed a wreath on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier a few times, including one time as the President-elect. It is so dangerous to listen and believe right-leaning "news" nowadays because their big goal is to completely destroy Obama's "regime." I find that I constantly have to investigate their claims and so far, I have been able to dismiss basically ALL OF THEM as either lies or the twisting of truths to fit their agendas. So much ridiculous spin!

Also, the fact that the President will be participating in an event in Chicago that pays tribute to our fallen, also eases my mind. I need to keep in mind that he has a family of young children and I think this is a top priority for him. I bet his daughters have been bugging their Dad to take them back to visit Chicago for a long time, especially since he said he would be going back very often. But no matter his reasons for his plans, I feel assured that he is definitely very supportive and respectful of all those he commands, including your son, Ma'am. I came across several speeches, comments, and answers to questions that addressed his feelings in this area, and I am proud of him.

Yes, I definitely need to be careful not to react to right-wing claims before investigating. I would highly recommend it. Thank you for listening.


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cheaptrick 6 years ago from the bridge of sighs

Lots of well informed folks here,good to see.Perhaps there is hope still.I am a Vietnam vet and FYI,2009 statistics from the VA say 18 Vets commit suicide every day.25% of the homeless population in America consists of Veterans.Every American should be ashamed of the way Vets are treated.A philosophical approach and Intellectualizing war is pure Bull sh*t!The kids Mr Obama is sacrificing for this game of geopolitical chess that his administration is playing is Bullsh*t!These kids are convinced that combat is the same as there computer games.It Isn't!When they experience the real thing they find the OFF switch they had on there computer doesn't work here!You should go to your local VA and get face to face with the human wreckage our children become after Iraq or Afghanistan and think HARD the next time intellectual discussion persuades you into agreeing that American troops should be deployed ANYWHERE other than Direct defense of our borders!If you think I'm being simplistic I Invite you to Visit your local VA and meet just ONE of these children our Government so carelessly treats as a"Resource"for making unjustifiable war on an enemy that is Dispersed through out the world rather than feeding us propaganda about particular organizations.Every real soldier Knows you Kill a snake by Cuting off it's head!That requires Precision NOT large numbers of troops put in ambiguous situations with rules of engagement so strict the bad guys are usually Gone by the time they get permission to shoot back!

Sorry if this seems like a Rant,I suppose it is so I'll end with a question.

What will you do when the Wars of Obama touch Your Life?

Dean


GodsChild2 6 years ago

Cheaptrick ~ Very powerful post, Sir. I agree with you so much about the shameful treatment of our veterans, especially our veterans from the Vietnam war. I am one who, out of a sense of responsibility and caring, has educated myself on the plight of soldiers RETURNING from war and re-entering "normal" life.

I am especially concerned about the mental health issue of our veterans and advocate for more and better resources to address this issue. The documented cases of PTSD is astounding and it doesn't include the MANY cases that go unreported because of various reasons like, for example ~ veterans feeling they could be stigmatized for their mental suffering, they are unaware that there is anything wrong, or they are ashamed to be suffering and do not view seeking help as an option. Unfortunately, I feel that a big reason for non-reporting is due to our present society's uneducated views and stigmatization of mental health issues in general. I belong to NAMI, and other mental health organizations who are trying to change this problem.

I am also a pacifist, and abhor war. I have many Christian friends who try to tell me that the Bible was full of wars, and there will always be war but I cannot subscribe to that philosophy. Then they tell me that I wouldn’t be enjoying the freedoms I have now if it wasn’t for wars won. Well, if I had to give up my freedoms to bring back the victims of war, both fighters and “collateral damage,” I would do it in a heartbeat. No question. My freedoms and the freedoms of my loved ones are NOT more important than actual human lives.

I will get off my “soapbox,” now because I tend to ramble on and on, on this issue and this is not my hub. Thank you so much for your heartfelt and important post, Sir. God bless you always.


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Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

CJV...sounds like you and I ranting about some of the same things this week. I need to get away from it and de-stress from the frustration. Unfortunately, those people in Louisiana and the soldiers scattered around the world that have that option. Thanks for a good hub. You really made your points very well. WB


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Not so fast GodsChild - I will give you George H.W. Bush - he was on the campaign trail. I will NOT however give you Ronald Reagan. He was IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORLD ECONOMIC SUMMIT in 1983. That's WAY different then choosing to go to CHICAGO - and other sundry party events - a President we already know who doesn't visit our wounded or fighting soldiers. A President who has gone to see our troops in Afghanistan ONE TIME. A President who has met with HIS Supreme Allied Commander for TWENTY MINUTES ONE TIME since taking office as President of the United States.

Our military KNEW without doubt that Ronald Reagan LOVED them. Our soldiers knew the same about George Bush 1 - our soldiers know quite the OPPOSITE about Mr. Obama and military only show at the few events he HAS gone to because they are ORDERED TO GO.

There is NO way you'll win this one. It is a DISGRACE that Mr. Obama will not AS ACTING COMMANDER IN CHIEF of our armed forces DURING WAR will not take time out of his PARTY SCHEDULE to go to a traditional time-honored event that Memorializes our Dead Soldiers. He is HORRIBLE for not doing so!

HE SENDS YOUNG PEOPLE TO DIE yet - will not make a special effort to pay tribute them. It shows his lack of respect for the military, plain and simple. It shows how self-centered and clueless he is as well.

Instead, he is going on a VACATION the SECOND one he has taken since the oil spill. The same oil spill that when it happened, he went off to PLAY GOLF. The same oil spill that they are waiting along shore lines for something to be done but the answer from the federal government is - "WE ARE STUDYING THE MATTER." That he would take this time to go on ANY vacation when 1) it is Memorial Day and he should never have skipped the Arlington Ceremony - never. There is no excuse for this. He could have taken his vacation another time - but everyone knows that he has disdain for the military - he could have gone a long, long way in mending those fences but he's too narcissistic to think of anyone but himself.

2) This catastrophic HORROR that is happening on our own shores! What is HE THINKING?! I KNOW - he's thinking about HIMSELF!

If Mr. Obama was George W. Bush - who did his duty by them every day, EVERY WEEK - no one in the military would care. No Mom of a son who is over there literally dodging bullets and stepping over bombs would care that Mr. Bush didn't do a specific ceremony honoring our fallen soldiers. I know Mr. Bush loves our soldiers.

We are at WAR. Mr. Obama is the Commander in Chief. He is sending young people to their death! That he will not take time out of his VACATION to honor those who gave all - those who lay it all on the line - is despicable.

Don't argue this one. You're not going to win because you're DEAD WRONG to defend this man IN ANY WAY with regard to this matter.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

I agree Springboard! You can say that again!!


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Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

Hey CJV...edit my first comment to indicate that the people of Louisiana and our soldiers DO NOT have the option. And...you go girl!


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Cheaptrick - I don't exactly agree with what you're saying, but I do understand what you're saying. We don't have much choice in this world the way it is now. We used to think no one could penetrate our boarders who really wanted to perpetuate evil upon us. But the world woke up to a different world on 9/11. Their religion will not allow them to stop until the world become Islam, it's just that simple.

We don't have much choice, do we? Some things are just worth fighting for - but I definitely see what you're saying. Mr. Obama may be using our fighting men and women as chess pieces in his little game and I agree with you there - that is very scary indeed.

I talked with my son when he came home for his two week R&R. He doesn't think he's playing video games out there - trust me. He told me a story I'm trying to find a way to Hub about it - I think I'll wait until he comes home - God willing before I do though. But trust me - he doesn't think he's playing Nintendo.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thoughts.


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Wayne - I was JUST thinking the same thing. I think I'm going to take a rest from all of this this Memorial Day weekend and just GET BLESSED.

I want to go through THE ROOF when even well meaning people persist in defending this President in many of the things he does. He is probably going to end up being our worst President in history and I already know he is THE worst Commander in Chief in HISTORY. Of that there is no doubt. Even Bill Clinton was better!

Thanks for stopping by and lending your supportive words and writing your thoughts. I really do appreciate you taking the time.


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Wayne Brown 6 years ago from Texas

CJV...understand fully. One thing I have noticed, in listening to bits and pieces of the press conference, I could see where people "listening with their heart" would empathize with the man while at the same time forgetting that his job here is to lead. We seemed to have wasted a lot of time here looking to save a well while we shut it down. We are past saving the well...blow it up, do whatever has to be done but get it shut down. No one cares if BP loses their future production on the well. I see a lot of posturing here especially in the publice eye. Posturing does not equate action. Dang...my soapbox is out again. See ya!


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Wayne - thank you! You are absolutely right - I didn't think of it that way. The people affected by this horrible oil spill and our troops won't be seeing any Chicago vacations and parties with Paul McCartney.

And regarding your observations about those who listen to Mr. Obama - you know what? That's why I wrote that latest blog when he was so rudely interrupted. I felt sorry for him. Not pity - I emphasized with him plus I was proud of the way he handled it. Can you imagine if this man would stop his pay-back to all of his special interest groups - like this ridiculous repeal of Don't ask Don't tell for example. Mr. Obama is FOR traditional marriage. It's not as if he has always been a proponent for gay marriage or something. He is putting our military cohesiveness at risk for a POLITICAL PAY BACK. It just makes me NUTS!! I could at least respect him if he made his decisions based on his true convictions!

As for your thoughts on the BP debacle and what should be done - I'm SO with you on that as well!

Dang - I just got on the soapbox you just got down from! LOL

Have a blessed Memorial Day weekend - and don't forget to drop by from time to time!


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Contagious! 6 years ago

"No matter how well you perform, there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." ~ Sir Laurence Olivier

Yes, this is meant to be a compliment, cjv123 ("somebody of intelligent opinion") and also just to express my frustration at not being more informed myself. It gets old, hearing that someone is either God or the Devil! (Actually, most of what I hear these days is that Obama is the devil himself...same as I heard about Bush) I am so frustrated that I don't have information to 1. Understand the (deep, not surface) basis for criticism and praise of people, and 2. Take part in a healthy discussion, in which I and others can sharpen (not harden) opinions and improve our understanding.

So interesting to read opinions here...BTW Blessings to all who express heart-felt passion, and allow themselves to agree with parts of another's opinions, disagree with others, and allow for change of opinion, based on research, conversation and thought. Blessings to those who find common ground and encourage others to look, based not on a desire to beat someone in a game, or defend against perceived assaults (we all feel a need to defend, cause we all know we are NOT idiots!) but to help, and acknowledge their own need for help. We DO all need each other, in tough times such as these!

The feelings I had gotten from President Obama (before I stopped watching the news a year ago) was that he truly cared about people and helping, and that he knew ways to get people talking and working together...which, to me, is the most important skill a leader can have. He did seem like he could be a unifier. The way he handled the case of the professor being arrested, with the "Beer Summit" I thought was excellent. Obama made a huge mistake in calling the officer's actions stupid, before he had the facts, and, like a man, admitted it and called the two together. I believed he helped diffuse a lot of tension by this move.

BUT, now I definitely don't see people talking or working together...I wonder why this is? I would like to find out.

Again, I have seen examples in this comment section, of people opening their minds a bit and allowing possible change of opinion. I respect that, immensely. As I study, I hope I can be an example of being "man enough" to allow growth, even when it might be painful or humiliating. I actually think it should be the opposite of humiliation, what we feel when we admit we are still (and will be forever!) learning.

A few thoughts on intelligence, learning and what is really important:

"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." ~ F. Scott Fitzgerald

"Character is higher than intellect. A great soul will be strong to live as well as think." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." ~ Albert Einstein

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace" ~ John Lennon

"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one!" ~ John Lennon and MANY of us!

Blessings to you and yours, cjv123


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Contagious - well - I will disagree with you on one thing - I don't ever remember Mr. Obama saying he was wrong about anything. The first time I ever head him say "I was wrong" was recently w/regard to the BP disaster. But then sadly, he said "I was wrong..." and then proceeded to blame BP for his being wrong in that he "trusted" their information. Mr. Obama doesn't say he's wrong too often to say the least and he's always, always quick to blame others for his blunders and mistakes.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving your thoughts.


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Contagious! 6 years ago

Sad to say, but you are correct that he didn't apologize. I thought he had, but I may have listening with too hopeful of ears ;) I just looked it up and noticed that he mentioned something like he used words that could be construed as to be critical of the officer and department....but he used words that were undeniably meant to criticize.

It is interesting how presidents handle this though...he did apologize for a lame and cruel joke about Special Olympics, (which I took hard, being a Special Ed teacher) and he did admit it. but I don't think any president has come out and said "Jeez, I don't know what I was THINKING!" It may be becuase it would be scary to think of our president as capable of "not thinking." Though all the presidents WERE.....often! It may be a public perceptioon thing?

I haven't been watching politics enough (barely at all) to know about mistakes he's made. But I do hope we can find way to help him, if we can. He is, after all driving (to an extent) this bus we are all riding on. (even if my driver was from a different party, I wouldn't want him to drive us off the road!) I wonder, with sadness, though, as I did when Bush was president, if we keep looking for bad, expecting bad, and finding as much bad as possible, if we may hinder his "driving ability?" And a basketball metaphor: We ARE all on the same team, and I would hate to think we are in the stands behind the basket, while our own player is at the line, trying to distract him and keep him from making the basket. The level of criticism and downright hate that floods my "inbox" is mind-blowing, and it feels like people would be glad to see him really mess up. I hope he doesn't! Just a thought. I wonder if there is a way we can help him (or any leader) be his/their best?


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

I do see what you're saying Contagious - however - as hard as I try, he trips HIMSELF up again! I do believe he got into this way, WAY over his head! Thanks for your thoughtful comments!


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tony0724 6 years ago from san diego calif

I have not read all the comments yet but I wanted to respond to LRCBlogger. The reason Obama was in Chicago for veterans day had nothing to do with saluting Illinois veterans and everything to do with the Blagojevich trial and coaching potential witnesses, seeings a quarter of his administration will be called up to testify ! Aside from that great political cartoons


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

You more than likely have that straight tony0724!


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tony0724 6 years ago from san diego calif

cjv I insist that you just call me Tony ! :)


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cjv123 6 years ago from Michigan Author

Tony it is!

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